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Detroit City Council Regular Session - March 10, 2026

City CouncilTuesday, March 10, 2026
BodyDetroit, Michigan
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, March 10, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:01

The regular session of Tuesday, March 10th, 2026 will come to order.

0:07

Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll?

0:10

Sure.

0:11

Councilmember Scott Benson.

0:14

Councilmember Letitia Johnson present.

0:16

Councilmember Denzel and Tom McCampbell.

0:20

Member McCampbell did indicate he is on his wife.

0:23

Clerk will so note Mr.

0:25

President.

0:25

Councilmember Renata Miller.

0:27

Here.

0:28

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

0:31

Present.

0:32

Councilmember Mary Waters.

0:36

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

0:39

Council President Pro Tim Coleman A on the second.

0:43

Council President.

0:45

Thank you.

0:45

Council President James Tate.

0:47

Here.

0:48

Mr.

0:48

President, you have a call.

0:49

Thank you so much.

0:50

And I neglected to note that Member Waters also indicated that she is on her way.

0:55

My apologies.

0:59

Our clergy did not arrive, have not arrived yet.

1:03

But we have our very own David Whitaker.

1:06

Mr.

1:06

Whitaker is decided to uh grace us with the opening prayer for this morning.

1:12

Mr.

1:12

Whitaker, man of many talents.

1:19

And it's hard as always with the city.

1:22

Mr.

1:22

President, I I agree to do this if I could sing.

1:30

Normally, when people ask me to come to the mic, it's not to pray as the same.

1:34

Yes, sir.

1:40

Yes, sir.

1:41

There we go.

1:42

Yes, sir.

1:43

Our father.

1:59

Thy kingdom come.

2:03

Thy will be done on earth as it is in his give us this day.

2:17

Our day bread and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debt hours and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

2:42

For thy is the kingdom and the palm water and the glory for that said, a man of many talents.

3:12

And we will have you back next week.

3:14

We've got a couple more slots for the remainder of the month.

3:18

Thank you, Mr.

3:18

Whitaker.

3:19

We appreciate you.

3:20

Thank you.

3:20

Uh short notice of showing up for this project.

3:24

All right.

3:25

Uh, for those who would like to provide public comment, uh, the collection of public comments cards have now begun.

3:32

Uh, whether you're online or in person, we do have at least 10 before us at this moment.

3:37

We will be shutting them off the collection of public car comment cards very shortly.

3:42

Madam Clerk, the journal of the session of Tuesday, February 24th, 2026, will be approved.

3:49

There being no reconsiderations or unfinished business, we will proceed with the budget, audit and finance standing committee, madam clerk.

3:57

Two reports from the office of the city clerk, city planning commission.

4:02

Uh the two reports uh will be referred to the budget finance and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee.

4:10

Five reports from various city departments.

4:12

Five reports will be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the neighborhood and community services standing committee, madam clerk.

4:19

Two reports from various city departments.

4:21

The two reports will be referred to the neighborhood and community services standing committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

4:27

Two reports from various city departments.

4:29

Two reports will be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.

4:35

13 reports from various city departments.

4:38

13 reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee.

4:41

We will uh now move to voting action matters.

4:46

There are no items, Mr.

4:48

President.

4:48

Thank you.

4:49

Under communications from the mayor and other governmental agencies.

4:53

There are no items, Mr.

4:54

President.

4:55

Thank you so much.

5:04

That we have going on.

5:05

And I know we had someone who's supposed to be joining us in the home.

5:11

Oh, that's law department.

5:13

Come on down.

5:14

Madam Clerk, if you can please note that we've been joined by member waters.

5:19

Clerk will so note Mr.

5:20

President.

5:21

Thank you.

5:25

Come on, Dad.

5:32

Morning, good morning.

5:34

Conrad Mallor Corporation Council City of Detroit.

5:38

My associate Jason Harrison, supervising attorney over the blight, law department.

5:45

Just looking for an update on more things, Stan.

5:47

I know we sound next last week.

5:50

Yes, sir.

5:51

I just want to want to assure this honorable body that we've been working diligently on this matter.

5:57

I've tried to keep a couple of members of this body up to date as we have gone along.

6:02

We met last week with uh tenants council uh with an eye toward getting some degree uh movement.

6:12

We scheduled a meeting, Jason, for when was it?

6:16

Monday, uh March 18th.

6:19

No, no.

6:19

When was the first meeting that we had last week with so we met March 6 phone, correct?

6:26

Yes.

6:27

Phone operation, a phone call uh with tenants council.

6:31

Uh we reviewed Mr.

6:32

President and members of this body uh our areas of disagreement.

6:37

I wanna assure everyone here and the tenants that we are absolutely committed to getting them their property as soon as possible.

6:48

We believe, Mr.

6:49

President, that for instance, we originally put forward that we would have the tenants go into their apartment uh and have an hour and a half to secure their private belongings.

7:04

Tenants council pushed back and said that wasn't long enough.

7:08

We agreed.

7:10

We then negotiated up.

7:11

We then offered three hours.

7:14

Uh they said that wasn't enough.

7:17

This is not very good negotiating tactics, but we are prepared to offer the tenants an entire day to go into the apartments to pack their personal belongings themselves.

7:29

They also asked, Mr.

7:31

President, can we have someone with us?

7:34

We were really, really, really reluctant to do that, but then we recognize that perhaps the job of packing personal belongings might be more than one person could do effectively by themselves.

7:46

And so, Mr.

7:47

President, again, not good negotiating.

7:49

We're prepared to go to two.

7:52

So, full day, two people in the apartment.

7:57

The moving company will still do the remaining of the packing of the department of the uh apartment.

8:05

So you have a full day to pack your belongings.

8:09

You have with you whoever you select to go with you to help in that process.

8:14

The moving company then will come the next day and pack up the remaining of your belongings.

8:21

The city of Detroit uh will then assume the responsibility for moving that which has been packed up uh to a uh a storage facility.

8:32

We are also aware, Mr.

8:33

President.

8:34

Uh uh, that uh even that might not be enough, and we have schedule mediation.

8:43

Uh council personal marriage, you suggested mediation's been suggested, excuse me, been scheduled uh with Judge Poppy, who was the original mediator uh uh when we first started this process back in 20 the litigation in 2024.

9:00

She has agreed to mediate.

9:02

Unfortunately, she will not be available until March 18th.

9:06

We are anxious to hear from tenants counsel that they will agree to mediation on that day if they won't accept the offer that I just presented to you all here.

9:16

Number one.

9:17

Number two, we are meeting with the judge uh for hearing in bankruptcy court on the 12th this Thursday.

9:26

We will present to the judge largely what I've just presented to this honorable body, number one.

9:31

Number two, we need to hear from debtors counsel as much as the city of Detroit voluntarily has assumed responsibilities for the men and women who have uh uh been living in the Leland.

9:48

The owner of the building has responsibility as well.

10:00

The owner of the building has to be able to demonstrate to the bankruptcy judge that they have a plan to meet the demands of the creditors, of which the city of Detroit will be a significant uh uh claimant, as you know.

10:09

The plan that we have offered, and we will remind the judge this Thursday is going to cost the citizens of the city of Detroit $850,000.

10:19

We are prepared, Mr.

10:20

President, to make further accommodations because we like like the tenants want this process to be done.

10:29

We are not, Mr.

10:31

President, ladies and gentlemen, responsible for the length of time that this is taking.

10:37

The debtor has not presented to the court a plan.

10:41

In the meantime, we have been in conversation with the tenants units, uh uh uh union's lawyers by ethical rule, we cannot contact the tenants, and so therefore can only speak to them through their attorneys.

10:59

But hopefully, some of them are listening to uh this conversation today and will know uh that we have a pathway forward all day with assistance, moving company due to the packing.

11:15

Uh uh the city of Detroit will assume responsibility for the moving of the belongings, either to now remember this, Mr.

11:23

President, this is also very important.

11:26

14 of the 37 households have already been moved.

11:31

They are in permanent housing.

11:34

We will deliver their belongings to their new permanent houses.

11:38

They won't have to go get it themselves.

11:41

So only four of the 37, then 13 of them are 2020, whatever the number is, uh uh uh uh will only have their belongings uh in the public storage facility.

11:55

We are working to accommodate uh the residents of the leading house as much as we possibly can.

12:02

And the last thing I'll say, Mr.

12:04

President, is this uh is is the uh um the key uh uh sticking point in my mind is the waiver.

12:15

The city of Detroit cannot assume unlimited liability for uh the tenants uh person, that is they've got to sign a waiver because they are coming into the building voluntarily themselves, and we don't want to be responsible uh for whatever uh uh accidents may occur, and we cannot assume unlimited liability for their property.

12:43

We are putting it in the hands of a professional mover.

12:48

We would ask the tenants to sign the waiver that you sign with any moving company, and the city of Detroit, we would be willing to negotiate a very minor amount of monetary responsibility for your belongings, but it would have to be minor because as much as it in the public's mind somehow uh we are responsible for the moment that we are in, this is a voluntary decision made on behalf of the administration and this legislative body to support the tenants.

13:28

We are not compelled to do this work.

13:31

We are doing this work at your direction and the direction of the mayor, and so assuming unlimited liability would be irresponsible, uh, and I would not recommend that uh at all.

13:45

But certainly, Mr.

13:47

President and members of this body, we would be willing to negotiate that.

13:52

And so again, mediation is scheduled uh uh for March 18th with Judge Popke.

13:58

Uh, we do need the members of the tenants union to agree to that date.

14:02

Uh we believe that we have uh on the table a significant offer, uh, and we believe, Mr.

14:09

President, that we have a uh a clear uh pathway forward.

14:14

Okay, thank you so much.

14:15

We just want to note that the collection of public comments cards have now concluded.

14:19

Um Corporation Council, one more time.

14:21

What is that date that the uh tenants uh union tenants rights commission or union have to uh present a response to the offer?

14:32

Um uh uh with the mediation is set for March 18th with Judge Popkin.

14:38

So if in fact there is some agreement that happens prior to the 18th, then we don't have to meet with Judge Poppy, Mr.

14:47

President.

14:48

Let me finish.

14:49

I'm sorry.

14:50

Thank you.

14:50

If there's any decision or agreement that's made prior to the 18th, can any movement happen from that standpoint?

15:00

Let's say tomorrow or the 16th or the 12th, uh, the city and the union comes together and agree.

15:05

Uh, can any activity happen or does it have to wait until the actual hearing on the 18th?

15:10

No, sir.

15:11

Uh, if we can come to an agreement prior to the 18th, good for us, and that way we wouldn't have to pay Judge Popke, number one.

15:19

Number two, as soon as there's an agreement, we can order the generator.

15:23

We can start the process immediately.

15:25

Uh, what I've been told, Mr.

15:27

President and the members of this honorable body that the generator will take about two weeks to come.

15:32

Uh, then we have to go through the setup and have it checked out uh uh by the electrician, so on and so forth.

15:39

So it'd be about a three-week process.

15:41

But as soon as we have agreement, we can start that process, sir.

15:44

Okay.

15:45

So again, for clarity, uh whenever the agreement is entered into, it would take at least a three weeks before the process would actually begin with folks being able to go and get their property based upon again the terms that we have set forth.

15:59

That is true, Mr.

16:01

President.

16:01

And I forgot one other uh uh important point.

16:05

Uh we we originally said to the tenants that they would have seven days to sign up for a slot to move their to come into the building and get their personal belongings.

16:15

Uh once we have that three-week uh window where we've got the generators coming and the setup occurring, uh we can easily concede the seven days and say you've got 21.

16:29

You've got as much time as it takes before the actual moving has to be set up.

16:35

So we believe again, Mr.

16:37

President, that even though we we continue to believe that the seven-day window in terms of setting up when you want to come into the building is reasonable.

16:46

Uh, we're prepared absolutely based on the reality of getting the generator to extend that time.

16:53

So again, uh we think as you point out, Mr.

16:56

President, we may be able to come to agreement prior to the 18th.

17:00

Uh if it takes Judge Popke's uh assistance, then it would be the 18th.

17:04

Gotcha.

17:05

And then last question for me is you mentioned the city is um willing to take on some limited liability reasonably uh and responsibly.

17:16

Uh, what is that without giving you know any uh unlayering any negotiation tactic, if you will, what is that litmus test on what's limited enough or not enough?

17:30

The uh Mr.

17:31

President, the the uh uh I'd be reluctant to put any number on the table.

17:36

What I want to just want to say to this body here is that we're willing to talk about it.

17:41

Uh there the the if if it is a reasonable demand, we're willing to talk about it.

17:47

Unlimited liability is not reasonable.

17:50

Okay, thank you, colleagues.

17:51

Any additional questions, comments, concerns?

17:53

Uh Pro Tim Young.

17:55

Thank you, Mr.

17:56

President.

17:57

Uh Corporation Council, sir.

17:59

See, I just want to ask you what kind of security is at the building now to protect the property from vandals and thieves at the Leland House.

18:06

We've got security there now, correct?

18:08

Yeah, there's there the property management company, uh, Mr.

18:12

President Pro Tem has a security company, it's 24 hours a day.

18:16

Okay.

18:17

Thank you.

18:17

Thank you.

18:18

Any additional member Santiago Romero?

18:21

Thank you, Mr.

18:21

President, through you.

18:22

Uh Conrad, good morning.

18:24

Good morning.

18:24

Thank you for doing this work.

18:26

Um, I just really want to emphasize the tenants that we've been talking to on through things as quickly as possible.

18:32

That is across the board, what we've been hearing with our tenants, and I do really appreciate lawyers who are trying to get the best possible agreement for tenants, but I do believe that we're at a point where we need to come with that decision because things will take time.

18:49

Um, and I hope that both the tenants and the tenants lawyers are able to come up with that agreement to be able to come to bring this to a close, because that's what I've been pushing for.

19:00

I did ask for the mediation because quite frankly, and I feel a little bad about that, knowing that there's more to this agreement that people want, but there needs to be a stop, and that's what I'm asking for is for this to stop.

19:11

Um, so thank you for making that push.

19:13

Thank you for asking for the mediation.

19:16

Um, and it sounds like we will get to the end soon.

19:19

Um still trying to try to figure out the systemic issues of how we can prevent this from happening in the future, but I am really grateful for the urgency that you're pushing behind this.

19:28

Thank you.

19:28

So, Council Personka or Romero, I what the the uh Jason and I have been talking a lot about that, uh, particularly when the questions were raised by uh council member Miller.

19:38

What we're gonna ask BC to do is to give us a list of their most troubled properties.

19:45

We are then going to go to each one of those properties and have a public health and building inspection done contemporaneously with the lawyers serving the owners with a demand that the corrections be made.

20:00

And if there is anticipate by public health or BC that these buildings without proper maintenance are going to, in fact, at some point be a public health emergency, then we're then likely uh we're gonna go to court to say we need an orderly process of these tenants being moved, unless the owner can prove to the judge that they have the wherewithal to spend the dollars necessary to bring the building in compliance.

20:29

Okay.

20:29

Uh you're absolutely right.

20:31

We do not want to be uh in this position again.

20:35

Through the chair, thank you.

20:37

Because that is the biggest fear that this will happen again.

20:40

And quite frankly, I people are correct.

20:44

Residents are correct to be mad at us.

20:46

We surplus to support and maintaining our properties.

20:49

Um, but I really am hopeful with this new administration, having a lens of public health through all of our work.

20:55

Member Johnson's mentioned this as well, including housing is incredibly important because this is gonna cost us more money, more time, more heartache, and we're gonna continue to harm people, and we can completely avoid this.

21:08

So I'm glad to hear that we will continue to do that work to prevent this from happening in the first place.

21:13

And I'm I'm ready to see this end, people get their things back, and that's where to help them frankly get their lives back in order.

21:21

Because people right now are many of them are in shambles.

21:25

Um, and this is ultimately our responsibility to make sure it doesn't happen again.

21:30

So thank you.

21:31

Thank you, Mr.

21:31

President.

21:32

Thank you.

21:33

Member Miller.

21:35

Good morning, everyone.

21:36

Uh I just wanted to say corporation counsel.

21:41

If the tenants' rights representative was here, and the attorney were here, they would beg to differ with your statements.

21:50

Because they're going to come up here, I'm sure, and the residents, right?

21:53

After you sit down for public comment and speak.

21:56

And last week, the statements did not line up with the statements from the law department.

22:02

In fact, they provided verbal information regarding what the judge stated.

22:08

But when I look at documents like this, the failure of this building since 2019.

22:16

It doesn't make me feel happy to hear about an agreement that came in 22, an agreement that came in 23, and then it failed again in 24, and here we are in 26.

22:25

You said reasonable responsibility is unacceptable.

22:28

We are responsible.

22:30

2019, all the failures, and we never shut them down.

22:36

This is not just this incident.

22:37

This has happened all around the city of Detroit.

22:40

And I represent the residents of the city of Detroit.

22:44

And I have to answer to those residents because you know what?

22:47

They're calling my office all the time saying, Hey, can you help us?

22:51

There's approximately 10 people living in the red roof inn in Southfield.

22:56

The red roof in, and they will be coming before us today, pleading their cases in tears, distraught.

23:04

Because you said four months now, this stuff has been in that building.

23:08

Four months.

23:08

Do you really think it's there?

23:11

I think it's probably been a Ramsack.

23:13

I think those people that's in that area probably has been in the building, went through all of their belongings, taking those things four months.

23:21

And I'm not saying that's the city's fart either.

23:22

I just believe that when it first hit the news, December 3rd, we should have acted immediately.

23:29

That was our responsibility.

23:30

And because they have failed so many times, and these owners give are given grace to just do our residence like that.

23:40

It is so wrong to sit here and watch grown men come before me and tear up.

23:47

This is sitting well with me.

23:50

And it makes me say, this is why I'm sitting here.

23:53

So the report that you just gave.

23:58

We're supposed to just say, okay, it's not right.

24:02

And so when we have this agreement, I when you go before the court again, please have some real questions and be proactive about how you want to get it done.

24:12

Because I haven't heard anything that for me substantiated what they've already gone through.

24:17

It sounds like a lot of smoking mirrors to me.

24:19

It sounds like we're just putting it off, and it's not right.

24:22

And I would ask that you would just sit there and listen to these people.

24:26

Hear them pour their hearts out today, and use a little empathy.

24:31

Because this right here says neglect over and over again.

24:35

2019, 2021, 2022, over and over again.

24:38

And I'm gonna ask is this building, is there a person right now looking to buy this building?

24:43

Not that I'm aware of, council person.

24:45

Okay, are these tenants gonna have the opportunity to come back into this building and live in it once everything is resolved?

24:51

No, exactly.

24:52

That is why, and that's what's happening all over the city.

24:55

I have a family member right now because the elevator was out, they moved everybody to the building next door.

25:00

And then I gotta call and say she's been moved to another place down off Jefferson because they're removing our residents out of the buildings, these prime areas, acting like we have they don't want to fix the elevators, transformers, and all the things that's broken just to get them out so they can bring in market value residents, and next thing you know, next year, this time it'd be fixed up while we talk about affordable housing.

25:26

It's a joke.

25:37

Um, all I can say, Mr.

25:39

President and Councilperson Miller, uh, we hear you loud and clear.

25:43

Um we are going to take advantage of the fact that we do have a new administration, and as council personal comaro pointed out, health runs all the way through uh each and every uh a decision that this administration makes.

26:00

Uh, and we will be more proactive uh in terms of dealing with the issues that you raised.

26:06

I and I think all we can do is come back and report, Mr.

26:10

President, on the progress.

26:12

Uh we I cannot correct uh mistakes that were made from 2019.

26:19

Member McCamp.

26:21

Thank you, Mr.

26:22

President, and good morning, good morning, corporation counsel.

26:25

Morning.

26:25

I just want to add to what my colleague member Miller uh talked about.

26:30

I you know, I always stress that I'm not a lawyer, and I know you all are in court uh doing what you are experts in.

26:38

Um, but when I served on the charter commission, uh the charter states that the city of Detroit um is responsible for the well-being of its residents, right?

26:48

Including the health of his residents, and I uh you know, I missed the front part of the conversation, but when I came in and just to know that even once we get to a resolution, we have to uh order the generator, then we have to wait, then the folks can get in once we is installed.

27:05

And I'm just thinking about if I'm a person that is without my belongings for three months, what it means to constantly come down here to hear a delay after delay when I don't even know when my things are are there, and then one piece has been noted.

27:24

And I understand the inability to go back and change what has happened in the past, but I I am increasingly frustrated um that we aren't moving with the swiftness.

27:37

Um, and there aren't things in place to move with the swiftness that we see other things move with swiftness in the city and have done seen in the past.

27:45

Um, so I appreciate the the what you talked about going to BC to see what are the troubled places already on the list.

27:53

Uh, but I have to say, and I know you are a corporation counsel with the law department, but I have to say I am I am infuriated that we are having to go back and have those conversations when it should have happened already, right?

28:08

This should have happened when we were when we first found out what was going on with the Leland that those conversations should have happened beforehand because we know that's happening across the city.

28:17

Um, so I know member Johnson has brought this up before of health and and the building safety.

28:23

Um I I want to give her credit about consistently bring that up.

28:27

Uh if we have to put that in the ordinance, we I I would be in favor of that because um it just seems like it's happening one off once attention is being paid, and we know residents are suffering.

28:39

And I I the Leland residents are here now.

28:43

Um, and there's gonna be another building next week, that is gonna be another building next month if we don't get a handle on this.

28:49

So I just want to make that note that and I hope that there could be a resolution ASAP to this because I I can't imagine as member Miller uh know that to have folks come down and just beg and plead for just to get basic humanity.

29:04

Um, and we should be ashamed of ourselves that that is not happening for residents in the city.

29:09

Thank you, Mr.

29:10

President.

29:11

Thank you.

29:13

I'll say uh for me personally, I you know, share the same sentiment about the past, um way that we've operated in the space.

29:22

You've heard from me in the past as well.

29:24

Uh but what I will say that it sounds as if we have something that's on the table right now that sounds very doable.

29:30

Uh so I would like to see some movement on that.

29:33

I know that it is a two-way street, and so while uh I certainly want to beat you all up um verbally over the way that we have approached this in the past, uh, we also need to address uh the concern that we have before us, and that's allowing folks to get in that building right now and get their things, get their things uh and and be able to have them and have an inventory and understand what they have there.

29:56

So I would hope that all parties, not just Lauder Partners, but all parties are going to be operating in good faith at this moment.

30:03

We can battle it out about other things later on in other locations.

30:06

But the goal has been stated is to get these residents, these tenants back into their space to get their items.

30:14

So what I heard that was presented didn't sound horrifically um evil at this point, this deal.

30:24

Certainly if there's some additional information that needs to become that needs to come forward, uh personally like to entertain that, but um this deal that has been put before us uh sounds like it allows folks to move in as quick as they possibly can without having any additional financial challenge on them.

30:43

So we'd love to hear again.

30:45

Um, this is a two-way party, two-way street.

30:47

Uh, like to hear from those who uh have an other hand in this deal uh outside of just the city of Detroit.

30:53

Uh Pro Tim.

30:56

Thank you, Ms.

30:56

President.

30:57

As much as I love to jump on a good dog pile.

31:00

Um for me, what I don't understand is we're talking a lot about the city's responsibility.

31:07

We do a responsibility.

31:08

Biggest room in the world is a room for improvement.

31:10

But we're not talking a lot, a whole lot about the owners and how are they being dealt with?

31:15

How are they being they're the ones that did let's keep this 100%?

31:19

They're the ones that did this, they're the ones that neglected the property, they're the ones that didn't fix the electricity, they're the ones that didn't fix the elevator, they're the ones that didn't fix the firing system.

31:28

They were told multiple times to do so, and they didn't.

31:32

Now, from my understanding the owner of this, the well-known nightclub owner throughout the city.

31:38

And when you were about to impose sanctions upon him, I think they declare bankruptcy for the purpose of being able to avoid it.

31:45

Am I correct about that?

31:46

And what penalties are they going to suffer out of this?

31:50

I mean, I mean, I appreciate people coming here and talking to us and talking to you, and that's their right.

31:55

We are their public servants, and that's what that means.

31:58

But where are their penalties in this?

32:00

How are they gonna be held accountable for what they did?

32:05

So, Mr.

32:05

President of Pro Tem and to this body, uh, there are no criminal sanctions against the owners for not upkeeping your property.

32:13

Right.

32:14

Uh, I don't know that any actually constitutionally could be imposed, but at the end of the day, uh the the in the city's enforcement's capability is limited.

32:24

We can impose fines, we can close the building.

32:27

Uh, we can cause people who have been living in the building to move to another place.

32:33

As council person uh Miller points out, that is also stressful to the tenants.

32:39

And so many times uh uh the public health people ask us to stand down and say, listen, give the owner an opportunity to fix this because Mrs.

32:51

Jones has been living here for 15 years and she doesn't want to move.

32:55

So there as uh this body knows better than me.

33:00

Uh at the end of the day, there are human beings involved in these uh in this litigation.

33:06

Mr.

33:06

President, I simply say this that we don't have to wait, as you pointed out, to the 18th to solve this.

33:12

Uh the law department is ready this afternoon, the law department is ready tomorrow.

33:16

The law department is ready uh the rest of this week to the sooner we come to an agreement, the sooner we can order the generator.

33:25

The sooner the generators order, the sooner it can be installed.

33:29

The sooner is that as soon as the generators installed, the elevator then can be turned on, reconditioned, and then we can begin the process.

33:37

So uh we're ready, we're available.

33:40

Uh my schedule is is is fluid.

33:43

I will change it uh so that these meetings can occur uh and look forward to the phone call.

33:50

Thank you, Mr.

33:51

Um.

33:53

No, thank you.

33:54

And I and I understand that.

33:55

And that makes a lot of sense.

33:56

I I just wanted to say that that I just wanted to clarify that's money for the generator, that's when it's gonna come out of the city's pocket.

34:03

Yes, sir.

34:03

Correct.

34:04

And we're not gonna be able to be recoup those funds from the owner.

34:08

I mean, are there options where we can ban him from doing business with other projects in the city again?

34:14

Are there other legally here?

34:15

I'm not telling the step outside of what we want to do legally here, but legally, are there other options?

34:20

And I understand we had this conversation before about criminality.

34:23

It is not that there aren't penalties that what you're saying is that what he did didn't reach the level of being a criminal, you know, action.

34:30

Am I correct about that?

34:31

Yes.

34:32

Okay, so I just want to know are there any other penalties that we can take?

34:37

One, so that we can make it we can establish what he did was wrong, but safely so we can say in the city of Detroit, it's a new day, we're not gonna tolerate this type of behavior anymore.

34:45

Well, I think I think in in in terms of criminal uh uh sanctions, right?

34:49

No, I'm just talking about yeah, not criminal, but civil.

35:00

I think that the best that we can do, President Pro Temp, quite honestly, is vigorously enforce the rules and go in and talk with the tenants about the necessity uh and and use uh the public health crystal ball and BC's crystal ball and say, look, if the owner does not put in the required dollars to fix this building, ultimately you're gonna have to move, and we don't want that to be a disorderly process.

35:19

Now that's that's what you know.

35:21

One of the questions will be is what if the tenants don't want to move?

35:25

Right.

35:25

Uh that's gonna, you know, it's another whole issue in front of us to write.

35:30

So the the answer is not crystal clear, but again, I think that the admonition given to the law department by this body and by the mayor, by the way, uh, is to be uh more forceful uh in our litigation with these owners uh and more protective of the tenants, and that's what we intend to be.

35:51

Thank you.

35:53

I'm done, Mr.

35:53

President.

35:54

Thank you.

35:54

We're gonna go down the line here and then we're going to wrap this particular conversation.

35:59

That's what we got.

36:00

Member Benson, followed by Member Callaway, followed by Member Mill.

36:04

Sure, thank you.

36:04

And uh, thank you all for being here today.

36:07

Just and I and I do want to appreciate the the work that you all have done, and that the fact that we are really trying to bring a resolution to the residents here.

36:17

Our lack of proactivity on the situation, what does it cost in the city of Detroit to enforce here now?

36:25

Uh this is going to cost uh at a minimum eight hundred and fifty-two thousand dollars.

36:30

Okay, and is there any portion of that that we can recoup?

36:34

Any, I'm sorry, and is there any portion of that that we can recoup?

36:39

So uh we believe that the judge will support uh our motion to uh have these costs uh uh classified as necessary administrative costs, and that puts us on the secured creditors list.

36:54

Okay, and then just looking at the result of not handling this in the past, obviously hindsight is 2020 and the conversation about being more proactive moving forward, really believe that lends credibility and weight to why we do need to lean in sooner when it comes to these type of properties, and then it's looking at the history of this landlord.

37:16

Are we looking directly at their current portfolio through any other LLCs through any other associations via family members that they currently own within the city of Detroit, just to review to ensure we don't find ourselves on the hook for another close to a million dollars of cost unbudgeted by this municipality, which are your tax dollars?

37:40

Those are your tax dollars being spent upon somebody who is a terrible landlord.

37:47

They own a uh another building uh in downtown Detroit, uh, councilperson.

37:52

Uh it's market rate housing in perfect condition.

37:55

Yeah, okay.

37:57

Any others?

37:58

Uh none that we're aware of.

37:59

Okay, thank you.

38:00

I'm just hoping that we could look to prevent us from being on the hook for this in the future.

38:04

Understand this is not what you or anybody in the city intended, but is looking at the results now, hopefully we can be more correct and moving forward.

38:11

Thank you.

38:13

Member Calloway.

38:14

Um, thank you.

38:15

Thank you, Mr.

38:15

Chair.

38:16

And um, good morning, Mr.

38:17

Harrison and um corporation counsel.

38:20

Um, in the event that um personal property is damaged by um the movers or um as they're being moved to storage, what is the city's responsibility?

38:32

I know you said you're gonna have them sign, um, sign uh um I don't know if it's a waiver, I don't know what they're gonna sign, but what if their property is damaged?

38:43

What happens with with that?

38:45

Who do they have a claim against?

38:47

The movers that we're hiring for the city directly.

38:50

How does that work?

38:52

So uh the moving waiver, I'm sure is going to have a limited amount of damage, uh capability.

38:59

Yeah, uh, we would be looking, council person calloway, for a similar protection.

39:04

Uh, but I but I can assure you that it is not gonna be outside the realm of commercial uh acceptability, uh, so that if they were moving it themselves and employed a regular mover, uh, we would assume the same level of liability as any other private moving company, which as you know is gonna be limited, yeah, uh just based on the process of moving itself.

39:31

So we don't the bottom line is we don't intend to be unreasonable.

39:35

Uh not being willing to take unlimited liability doesn't mean that we're not willing to assume some responsibility.

39:44

Okay, I have one other question to the chair.

39:47

Um, Mr.

39:48

Mallet.

39:49

Okay, you said that our costs are going to be uh 852, um 852,000 dollars.

39:56

Yes, ma'am.

39:56

Okay, and then you said we're going to be placed on the list of secured creditors.

40:02

Do we know where our placement will be?

40:04

Because that matters as well.

40:05

Yes, ma'am.

40:06

Who gets paid first?

40:07

That's right.

40:07

We're hoping to be at the top.

40:09

Okay.

40:09

I'm hoping that now let me hurt hasten to say that that's the request that we're making to the judge.

40:14

Okay.

40:15

Uh that's her decision.

40:17

Okay, and my last question um through the chair is I asked about liens on the property last week.

40:25

Um, I didn't know that this owner owns other properties.

40:29

You just said he does.

40:31

And then you said something about a nightclub, or somebody said that he owns a night club that pro temp.

40:36

Okay.

40:37

So if the nightclub is operating, he's generating revenue.

40:41

Can we also um put a lien on that building as well?

40:44

All of his properties, can we put a lien on them?

40:46

So the the property that's in bankruptcy is is, and you know this from your past experience is in an LLC separate and apart from the uh Higgins Trust that owns the building, and I am assuming the nightclub that President Pro Tim was uh referencing uh as well.

41:06

Uh, it is shielded from uh bankruptcy and our demand.

41:10

Okay, and then finally, um, through the chair, if he's operating a nightclub, is he in compliance?

41:16

Do we know whether or not he's in compliance?

41:18

Hopefully, someone from BC that's listening.

41:20

Um, I would put um not undue pressure, but some pressure if he's not in compliance with whatever our fire calls, maybe we should just go in there and just make sure he's in compliance with all of our fire codes and all of our um ordinances with respect to running that nightclub.

41:36

That is my question, and hopefully someone from BC is listening.

41:39

Uh we'll have to determine where where this nightclub is and things like that.

41:44

Uh, we can come back and report.

41:46

Councilperson, I don't have an answer for you right now.

41:48

Thank you.

41:49

Thank you, Mr.

41:49

Chair, and thank you, um, Mr.

41:50

Malik.

41:51

Thank you.

41:52

Member Miller.

41:54

Can you provide the um other property location?

41:59

Um Grass Circus Park at Broderick Towers, uh, Councilperson Miller is in the part of the uh Higgins Trust right there at Broadway and diagonal to uh Tiger Stadium.

42:11

I have a question.

42:12

When we find landlords like this, property owners repeatedly, at what point?

42:18

Because some people just take the fine on the they just take it, they don't mind just paying it, they'll pay 10 and 20 times and continue doing business.

42:26

At what point do the law department make a decision to say, okay, we're gonna just take them to court and sue them?

42:31

Is there ever a pathway to that when we have people that are repeatedly getting failed or have failed reports that are not in compliance?

42:40

Because all over the city, I mean, we have thousands that just take the fine, and they can afford it.

42:46

So at what point do we make a decision?

42:48

Because I heard what you're saying about some people don't want to move, they've been there forever, but then we get to this point.

42:55

So we have to protect ourselves, which means we have to proceed with those property owners that are not compliant and is not providing a safe place for them to live.

43:06

I mean, because they've been they were collecting the rent.

43:08

At what point do RBC and our law department say, listen, we're gonna take the rent, put it in escrow, we're gonna hold it.

43:15

Is there ever a point where that actually happens?

43:18

Uh that's work that we're begin doing now.

43:20

Uh you're obviously familiar, councilperson Miller with real token, another large lawsuit that we brought uh last year, which has an escrow feature in it, which we're doing.

43:30

Uh I will I will uh be perfectly honest uh uh with this honorable body.

43:35

Uh we in the past have relied on BC to bring us these cases as they present themselves.

43:41

Uh we are now being more prep proactive ourselves in in partnership with BC.

43:48

Uh they've got limited capabilities, so we decided to to to uh more closely align our resources uh to do this work better.

43:57

I've asked BC for that information, I believe three weeks ago.

44:02

I am still currently waiting to receive those actual landlords.

44:07

I believe we have a total of 80,000 and only 15,000 is in compliance, but I wanted to see the names of those people so we can go into those buildings into those apartments to see exactly what exists.

44:18

Um, so we can be proactive and help them along with their job.

44:22

So I look forward to letting the law department know my findings because I am writing ordinances as we speak regarding those uh same situation.

44:31

So thank you very much.

44:33

Uh Mr.

44:34

President, Councilperson Miller, are you are you asking for commercial properties or residential?

44:38

I mean, the the multi let me say it this way the multifamily, is that what you're looking for?

44:43

Well, when I asked the question, I asked how much was the compliance certificate, and uh it was made mentioned that there are several types.

44:50

We have single family, um uh four family business.

44:54

I just needed the breakdown.

44:56

Okay, and I hadn't gotten anything yet.

45:01

Because I want to eye on it so I can talk to you regarding the information I have that people aren't negligent.

45:07

Okay.

45:08

So I'm still waiting also.

45:09

Yes, ma'am.

45:09

So I understand I'm saying you mentioned your delay because you want to work with them, but you hadn't got anything.

45:14

So I understand that because I hadn't either, that's what I'm saying.

45:17

Okay.

45:17

Yes, ma'am.

45:18

Thank you.

45:19

Uh member Johnson.

45:20

Thank you, Mr.

45:21

Chair.

45:22

Um I feel like we are going round and round in circles with this conversation.

45:28

Um, I do know there are many other buildings in this city, probably in very similar condition.

45:37

Um it's the Leland today, next month, just so you know, the folks in the neighborhood around the travel in are coming down to the meeting.

45:47

How do we get in front of this?

45:50

I am asking that we create a working group to have these conversations because we talk about BC'd and recognizing that the properties are not um, they don't have a certificate of compliance.

46:06

It's any of our guests as to the condition of the property, but our residents are still living in these buildings.

46:15

Who are we as a city?

46:17

What is our focus?

46:19

How are we saying, okay, we're not going to allow this in the city of Detroit?

46:25

We have to come together, all of the departments.

46:29

Of course, everybody's heard me talking about where's the health department in a lot of these conversations because the conditions of the properties are just deplorable.

46:42

You may be limited to what city code says, but let's have that conversation because we talk about this frequently.

46:51

So is there an ordinance that needs to be amended so that there's more power that the city has to be able to move forward and address the issue?

47:03

We need to have that conversation because I I just feel like we're talking in circles.

47:09

We know this happens.

47:11

We know it's as member McCampbell said, next week it's a different building, next month it's a different building.

47:17

How do we come together, work together collaboratively, and get in front of it?

47:22

We know we have a housing issue in the city of Detroit.

47:28

We have an affordable housing issue in the city of Detroit, and we will continue to have these problems and they get exacerbated by these types of facilities that are allowed to sit and continue to do whatever it is they like because we believe that they are in good faith going to do the right thing.

47:50

At what point in time do we step in and say your time is up?

47:55

Before it gets to this point, that's the problem.

47:59

If it takes four years, that means our residents have been living in what kinds of conditions for four years.

48:07

So I'm asking that we create a work group that we work to address these issues so we don't have to keep coming here.

48:18

I appreciate the work you're doing with real token.

48:22

How do we get in front of it?

48:24

That's my question.

48:26

So uh Member Johnson, the uh uh uh law department we're willing to be a part of any work group that you put together to deal with this issue.

48:35

Um I'm I know that members of the administration are watching uh this particular portion of uh this honorable body's meeting.

48:45

So I'm sure HRD uh is paying attention.

48:48

I'm sure the mayor's office is paying attention.

48:51

Um we're willing to participate and do whatever we can.

48:55

All right, um, and it is budget season, as we all know, and we have these conversations with different department heads.

49:03

Um, we will establish the work group um and would invite any of my colleagues that like to be involved just to make sure we're shaping um the work properly, and if there's any legislation that needs to come out of it, we will certainly um advocate to do so.

49:21

Thank you.

49:22

Thank you, Mr.

49:22

Chair.

49:23

Thank you.

49:24

Do we know how long the owner of the Roger Tower is on uh Leland House?

49:31

I don't, Mr.

49:31

Chairman.

49:32

I'm assuming that it's uh it's been uh for a very long period of time.

49:37

Okay, and the the current owner, we're talking about the broad project tower, right?

49:41

No, that the the current or the project towers is the Higgins Trust, the current owner of the Leland Houses and LLC formed and and uh uh separate and apart from the trust, it's a separate property.

49:55

But there's no players that are connected, is what we're saying.

49:58

Not connected to the trust.

50:02

Okay.

50:12

Commercial rehabilitation uh district and certificate for this uh for the project power um commercial rehabilitation act.

50:20

Um and so I'm very concerned if HRD, which was a part of uh any of these deals, uh, we're not aware of the issues with the uh property owner again.

50:33

I need to dig more once you said that it peaked something in my mind and when started looking back at our document.

50:38

So we're gonna be asking a few more questions on that without me uh speculating any further.

50:43

I will turn the mic over to uh member Miller, followed by who else, followed by member Santiago Mero.

50:51

Anyone else?

50:52

And Member Santiago Romero will close the drawing this conversation before with this adjoining.

50:57

Thank you, uh Mr.

50:59

President.

50:59

I have a question for LPD.

51:01

Is a subpoena appropriate regarding this matter?

51:04

Because I have not had a response in nearly a month from DC regarding my request, because I would like to continue my uh work that I've been doing regarding um this whole issue with landlord tenant, and I have been proactive about it.

51:19

So I was wondering because I need the information so I can proceed with law.

51:23

I've already been indulging in this.

51:28

Mr.

51:28

President, yes, sir.

51:29

Certainly, the council can issue a subpoena at any time.

51:34

Um certainly it should not come to that where it's necessary for the council to subpoena a department head to give you documents that you've requested otherwise.

51:46

But if you think that it has taken longer or you're unsatisfied with the responses you've given, that is your prerogative, and we would be happy to execute it if directed.

51:59

Thank you.

52:01

Thank you, Member Santiago Romero.

52:03

Thank you, Mr.

52:04

President.

52:05

I just want to end by reminding us that tenants need their things as quickly as possible and asking tenants to work with the lawyers to make sure that we have an agreement before the 18th, because then we can get the process started to get into the building so that we're able to again get people into housing.

52:23

I'm just every single day.

52:26

We literally have ruined people's lives, and we need to help them get back.

52:30

Member Johnson, I will wholeheartedly join your working group.

52:34

I mentioned over and over next up is addressing the systemic issues so that it doesn't happen again.

52:39

And that is what I want to avoid.

52:41

I don't want any other council member or any other residents to have to deal with this.

52:46

We have been dealing with this since December.

52:48

And unfortunately, we have been working with residents and the and the unions since December.

52:52

I've gone out, I marched with them, I've gone to fundraisers.

52:55

We have been working with them diligently, and we have been ignored until they got to this point.

53:00

I don't want anyone else to have to get to this point to have to have tenants coming and crying.

53:05

That is ridiculous.

53:07

And it can happen again unless we address the issue sooner rapidly later.

53:11

So thank you all.

53:12

Let's get their things back.

53:13

Let's avoid some happening to anyone ever again, because it is so so demoralizing it is irresponsible of us, and this is our job.

53:20

Thank you, Mr.

53:21

President.

53:22

You okay?

53:24

So we're uh hopeful that there will be some uh determination, some agreement uh prior to next Tuesday, but uh requesting in advance that we get an update uh at the next formal session uh next Tuesday.

53:36

Yes, sir.

53:37

All right, thank you so much.

53:38

Thank you.

53:38

Thank you, colleagues.

53:40

Uh we will now go to public comment for those individuals who have raised their hand in the committee of the whole will start here first.

53:48

Uh we have um 12 cards in person.

53:53

We have uh 20 online, and we will give everyone two minutes.

53:58

Our first speaker, Char Williams, followed by Michael Shane, followed by Marcellus Bell.

54:06

Please come down to the mic, Char Williams, followed by Michael Shane, followed by Marcellus Bell.

54:16

Two minutes.

54:32

Let's talk about illegal voting.

54:34

Okay, last we get the hair quarters.

54:37

I've been speaking about illegal voting for quite some time.

54:41

Um a U.S.

54:43

non citizen was able to go into the Secretary of State office, retain identification, apply for the Detroit Police Department, went through the academy, graduated, crossed the stage with this fake name at the headquarters last week for a job interview.

55:03

So this is how they are voting illegal here.

55:06

I've been talking about illegal voting for quite some time.

55:11

Outside of these two new members, the rest of them.

55:14

So what about cash patel and the president come because he's been complaining about illegal voting?

55:22

And I like I said, I've been coming in here stressing not just non citizens with fake names, but also ex-offenders on the Detroit police department.

55:33

You all sit up here like you this is your job to investigate to find out what's really going on.

55:38

You the poison of the city.

55:41

You steal this money from the citizens of Detroit.

55:44

You don't do your job.

55:45

Oh, this is a show.

55:47

Because clearly, none of this can be going on if you weren't a part of it.

55:52

So it's time for you all to go to prison.

55:56

That's the bottom line.

55:58

Because you are what sitting there.

56:04

Woman deceased.

56:05

That's how you do it.

56:08

And then I complained last week about the officer, ex-offender on the board of commissions with a new identity, but he's using his real name sitting on the board, a police board of commission.

56:20

This is not acceptable.

56:21

Kyrie Madison didn't have that being every week and hear my complaints about illegal corruption and don't do nothing.

56:30

So he should not be out of none of this.

56:33

Thank you.

56:40

Followed by Brother Cunningham.

56:44

Good morning, honorable council members.

56:47

Um, my name is Michael Shane.

56:48

I'm with the Moratorium Now Coalition.

56:50

We advocate, among other things, for the rights of uh people in uh in fighting for decent housing.

56:59

Uh I want to let you know that the Leland House Tenants Union will be holding a demonstration at 12 noon at Leland House that will be marching to the city council building to this building at 12 30, probably arriving at one.

57:12

You'll all have an opportunity to meet with them if you would like.

57:23

One of their attorneys will also be in that demonstration.

57:26

So it's an opportunity for Mr.

57:28

Mallet to resolve some issues today, if he would like to.

57:32

Um I wasn't gonna address this, what I'm gonna speak on next, but I had to after I heard uh Mr.

57:39

Mallet say that you know he can't do anything because there's no criminal, you know, no law that can charge this or that entity with criminality.

57:49

Um some of you know we took on certain landlords four years ago and brought those members to the public uh health and safety committee and council members water and Santiago Romero were helpful in resolving some of the problems that the tenants had.

58:04

The housing was so bad when they came to us, they said they did not want help staying in the house.

58:11

They wanted new housing.

58:12

That's how bad things were.

58:14

Um, but in the course of our struggle during that time period, we discovered that the landlord had been cutting out water meters and installing straight pipes in his houses and apartment buildings.

58:26

That is a felony.

58:29

What did Conrad Mallet do?

58:31

Well, first we went to the DWSD.

58:32

They investigated, they found more instances where landlords are cutting out the water meters.

58:38

Remember, it's a felony because you steal more than 500.

58:42

It's a felony.

58:44

Why hasn't he done anything about it?

58:47

He got the files two years ago and has failed to investigate.

58:55

Next speaker, Marcellus Bell, followed by Brother Cunningham.

58:59

Good morning.

58:59

My name is Marcellus Bell.

59:01

Oh, face of the lemon uh Lena House tenant union.

59:05

Uh thank you for the question and the input that you had today.

59:08

You almost took everything out my mouth.

59:10

But um the first visit, I was talking about the redevelopment that the teen has had, was involved with, and um, I want to know why aren't they looked at as creditors as well?

59:20

And could they get their money like the city trying to get their money off top?

59:24

Also, or a right to return.

59:27

Um see.

59:33

We had um Don Rancher uh from the HRD.

59:38

We had um Vince Keenan uh from the CBO, Aaron Goodman, Emory Matthews from the city of Detroit talking about the CPO discussions.

59:48

Um, where are these people at that was involved with it with the uh redevelopment?

59:53

Um use taxpayers' money, credit, and then um let the owner file for bankruptcy while you bankrupt the citizens or did the residents.

1:00:04

Uh also we feel that he sabotage the transformer to illegally people, you know.

1:00:12

We wanted an investigation on the transformers or whatnot.

1:00:17

Um see.

1:00:26

Uh the general contractors or Brian Construction.

1:00:29

We had the UCH uh see the fire marshal and others involved in these meetings.

1:00:36

Uh we had the fire marshal named the building unsafe with our video proof the day before the change went on the door.

1:00:44

The teens were still moving things out without power.

1:00:47

So we'll change within the day.

1:00:49

The city stated that our claims was a frivolous, but can the residents of the legal house be on the new budget for the homeless, being able to uh get out of it.

1:01:02

Thank you.

1:01:06

Next speaker, brother Cunningham, followed by Betty Lyons, followed by Melody Richards.

1:01:16

313, 444, 9114, 313, 444, 9114, 313, 444, 9114.

1:01:24

That number was made so you can remember it.

1:01:27

Um that is my cash out.

1:01:28

That's my Facebook.

1:01:29

You just Google it.

1:01:31

You see articles and things of that nature, reach out.

1:01:35

Uh pray with you.

1:01:36

Um bus tickets, uh, give them out at the bus stops, bus tickets, uh, well, it was hand warmers, gloves, and hats, but the weather's breaking.

1:01:46

So uh low-income housing lists, bus tickets, um, and just information, you know, and just helping the people where you can.

1:01:56

Detroit department of transportation is still very much so lackluster after 6 p.m.

1:02:01

on the weekdays and on weekends, especially.

1:02:04

So I had a couple thoughts about B Dot, like uh, because I would leave two hours early when I was on the bus because buses are not dependable.

1:02:12

And you keep coming to your boss for the same thing over and over again.

1:02:16

I'm late, I'm late or the doctor's appointment, whatever.

1:02:19

Uh they track the buses.

1:02:21

I think a person should be able to go to a computer and print out a certification of some kind that your bus was late or that your bus didn't show up.

1:02:30

It may not help with the boss, but it might.

1:02:33

That you you found a way that you could print it out or show your boss.

1:02:38

See, my bus was late.

1:02:40

See, my bus didn't show up.

1:02:42

That way they'll believe a person.

1:02:44

And if it's so many times, they stop believing them and fire.

1:02:48

That might help.

1:02:48

So I don't know what like a certificate of lateness or a certificate of not showing up, or some type of way that the employer could see that the employee was not lying.

1:03:02

Um, there is a D Dot meeting on the 19th.

1:03:05

You can Google it.

1:03:06

Uh, you can also go to their social media page, Detroit spell out the whole world, Detroit Department of Transportation, and uh please attend council members, your uh interns.

1:03:19

Thank you, each and every one of you, councilperson.

1:03:23

Thank you.

1:03:23

Thank you.

1:03:24

Our next speaker, Betty Lyons, followed by Melanie Melody Richards, followed by Michael Evans.

1:03:36

Over two over 600 million dollars in overpaid property tax stolen and hid by Dugan with his evil spirit of Satan, Conrad Mallet, Whitaker, Anderson, they sat there and let this man all those years take that money and would not take him to court.

1:04:01

The same thing has happened to Leland House.

1:04:05

You knew this was going on.

1:04:07

You let Dugan sit there in that office and treat black people like this and didn't do anything, and then you sit here acting like you feel sorry.

1:04:19

You don't feel sorry.

1:04:21

You got yours, Mary Waters, Romero, McDaniel.

1:04:27

What is it?

1:04:27

Mac Daniel or whatever it is, fighting for illegal immigrants while these people are in those apartments living in squalor, but you won't fight for them.

1:04:41

You won't fight for them.

1:04:43

It should have been done years ago, and you sat there and let Dugan continue his evil behavior.

1:04:53

Conrad Mallet.

1:04:58

Mary Sheffield put him back in that office.

1:05:01

He didn't do nothing about the 600 million.

1:05:04

He's not gonna do anything for us.

1:05:07

He only does for Dugan.

1:05:09

He is evil himself.

1:05:11

He is not a lawyer.

1:05:14

I would have a big attitude, and those slumlords would be put in jail, and every charge I could put on them, I would put on them.

1:05:23

You letting them off too easy, just like you let people here come every week.

1:05:28

You give them millions of dollars, and they don't care about Detroit.

1:05:33

That's probably how he got that apartment building and that other apartment.

1:05:39

Thanks, Mr.

1:05:40

Tate.

1:05:41

Next speaker, Melody Richards, followed by Charles Miles, followed by Josh Mann.

1:05:50

Hello.

1:05:54

How the city council can help.

1:05:56

You can facilitate legal action and exercise emergency powers.

1:06:05

But did not uphold that duty.

1:06:13

Never happened.

1:06:15

I am asking our city to fight for us as we fight for our city to do that due diligence.

1:06:22

And contrary to what Mallet said, he said that we had they had 24 hour security.

1:06:29

That is not correct because once again, windows have been busting bust out the window, out the um building.

1:06:36

And also Mike Higgins had on Broderick Tower since 2012.

1:06:42

Thank you.

1:06:43

Thank you.

1:06:46

Next speaker, Charles Miles, followed by Josh Mann, followed by John Laszlo.

1:06:57

Okay, I'm back again.

1:07:01

I need some answers today if I can.

1:07:19

Because right now he's got them hid, red flag.

1:07:23

I'm sure he can't even print you.

1:07:26

You guys can't even print out the copy of the receipt from 2016 tax bill.

1:07:31

Now we can't just keep ignoring this talking about court.

1:07:34

And he's the main reason why I'm here because he won't answer.

1:07:39

He's never answered any answer to me since this began.

1:07:45

Since this problem started, he's not the law department has never replied or complied.

1:07:51

They never give me any four-year request documents.

1:07:55

It's like a ghost town down there.

1:07:56

It's like a joke.

1:07:57

And it's been that way.

1:07:58

And that's probably why you got all it ain't probably that is the reason why you got all these problems going on with the Leland House and everything else because this law department system doesn't work and they don't care.

1:08:10

And they I don't know.

1:08:12

I don't know if y'all just choose to hide behind them because this is a clear situation with me that you all know that I paid the re if if I didn't pay it, why are you not saying that?

1:08:23

Why you're not telling me that I didn't pay the bill?

1:08:25

Because I got the receipt that I paid it.

1:08:27

So why is nobody able to say nothing about me paying a bill that you said that it was paid, and you said that I still owed, and this county is saying that I owe something that I paid, and they said it's up to you guys to fix it.

1:08:41

So what is the big deal?

1:08:42

This has been going on since 2016.

1:08:44

Well, 17, 2016 tax year, January 12, 2017, when I made the payment.

1:08:50

So why am I still here in 2026 and going to court and all this stuff?

1:08:56

And why is Noir?

1:09:01

Chair, Mr.

1:09:02

Chair.

1:09:03

So is it regarding this?

1:09:05

It is, sir.

1:09:06

I would love to for us to have the comments after the public commenters begin.

1:09:10

That's what Dr.

1:09:10

Powers asked.

1:09:12

Make sure I'll I'll come to you first, Member Calvin.

1:09:16

Josh Man, followed by John Laszlo, followed by Liberty.

1:09:21

Good morning.

1:09:22

Um I don't know if this is like a total waste of time coming down to this, but I've been attending for a year, and every week I see the same people saying the same thing, and there's not been a resolution on one thing or feedback from you people.

1:09:38

It's like a one way we're talking.

1:09:40

If we were got feedback to say, hey, we're keeping flock, I'm not gonna bring up flock again.

1:09:44

If we say, hey, we're not gonna ever pay for your guys' attendance here.

1:09:48

I won't have to keep wasting my time.

1:09:50

So I try to encourage all my friends to come here and participate, but it almost seems like it's it'd be a waste of everybody's time, including the six of us that are the regulars here.

1:10:01

So I'm gonna waste my time and your time again, and I know I'm not gonna get feedback from anything, but out of us 10 to 11 people, Raleigh, North Carolina, Cleveland, Ohio, Fort Worth, Texas, San Luis Pispo, California, College Park, Maryland, San Antonio, Texas, Atlanta, Georgia, all pay for their city council participants parking.

1:10:21

But I've already said this, and we've never got feedback.

1:10:24

I don't know if there's a different place that we have two-way dialogue, but this seems almost pointless.

1:10:30

Flock cameras, Flagstaff, Arizona, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Eugene, Oregon, Santa Cruz, California, Hillsbury, Rome, North Carolina, Iowa City, Iowa, Ferndale, Michigan, Verona, Wisconsin, Evanston, Illinois, Oak Park, Illinois, Denver, Colorado, Berkeley, California, Syracuse, New York, just on February 25th, Mountain View, California, and Coronaville, Iowa, all remove their flock contracts.

1:10:53

We keep stating it, a group of us, but we get absolutely no feedback.

1:10:57

Is this a lost cause?

1:10:58

Should we drop this topic and pick something else?

1:11:01

Should I pick drifting, drag racing, graffiti, other topics, because it seems like, you know, and with the 852,000 on this Leland, DPD asking for a 1.9 million budget increase for traffic control when we already have flock.

1:11:21

It seems like there's so much money around.

1:11:26

Just so everyone knows the way that our policy, we do not go back and forth with residents during public comment.

1:11:32

We allow for public comment, all of the public commenters, both in person and online to complete their public comments, and then after that, colleagues will have an opportunity to uh respond to any and all of the statements that have been provided.

1:11:45

So you will not have us going back and forth just again, I'll statement that for the record, but I'm sure there'll be comments uh afterwards.

1:11:52

John Laszlo, followed by Liberty, followed by Ronald Falster.

1:11:56

There'll be our final in-person publication.

1:11:58

Mr.

1:11:58

President, before I find my comment, may I make a suggestion that you put one of those displays here?

1:12:03

I don't know about you, but for me, it's very hard to see with my ears.

1:12:07

Thank you very much.

1:12:08

My name is John D.

1:12:10

Lass though, and I have two issues.

1:12:12

First, I need to remind you that in 1950s, Detroit had over two million people, and the average home tax was about $60 per year, with a range of $50 to $100, and the people of Detroit had to work a few days to pay you the home tax.

1:12:30

That was indeed home tax.

1:12:32

Today, what you call home tax is on average of $5,000 a year with the range of 1,000 to $20,000 a year.

1:12:41

And some people in Detroit have to work for five, six months to save that money to pay you guys the tax.

1:12:48

Now, this is not rent.

1:12:50

Ladies and gentlemen, this is either government rent or part-time slavery, making the people of Detroit being slaves to pay you for renting a home in Detroit.

1:13:02

Um the people of Detroit should not have to choose between fixing their feet or their ears or paying for medication or buying clothing and paying you guys rent for our own houses accordingly.

1:13:19

I'm kindly asking you guys to lower the property taxes to make the life a pool affordable in Detroit and to end the slavery in Detroit.

1:13:31

This is not tax.

1:13:32

This is slavery.

1:13:39

But looks like I'm running out of time.

1:13:41

And I don't want to hear that buzzer.

1:13:43

That buzzer reminds me of the fire alarm from the military service.

1:13:47

And last time I almost had a heart attack when it went off.

1:13:51

So can you please pass this to my representative Gabriela Santiago Romero and to Visa President?

1:13:58

Thank you so much.

1:13:59

God bless you all.

1:14:02

Next speaker, Liberty, followed by Ronald Foster.

1:14:11

Good morning.

1:14:13

Um my name is Liberty, and let's first get grounded and focused on why we're all here.

1:14:20

We're all here for the U.S.

1:14:22

citizens and taxpayers from which you draw a paycheck.

1:14:26

So through the chair, I ask everyone to stand and I'll start the Pledge of Allegiance.

1:14:33

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

1:14:40

One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all U.S.

1:14:47

citizens.

1:14:48

In the name of the Father, Son, the Holy Spirit, Amen.

1:14:51

It's wow, we need to get our focus back.

1:14:56

Um I came here mostly for no sanctuary city for Detroit.

1:15:00

Um, I came here mostly for no sanctuary city for Detroit, no protection from following our laws of this land, no sanctuary city, no turning illegal, undocumented immigrant aliens, whatever you want to call them, um, from indentured servants into slaves, prey and victims of those who paid their way over here.

1:15:23

Um, they're not Jesus, they didn't walk on water, the Atlantic Ocean, uh, Pacific Ocean to get here.

1:15:30

Someone paid for them to come here.

1:15:33

Um, no shutting out ice.

1:15:37

You put all of us in danger, U.S.

1:15:39

citizens and illegals alike.

1:15:42

When you don't allow police and ICE to work together to let us know that it's a legitimate uh arrest or raid.

1:15:51

There's no uniformed officers there.

1:15:54

Uh, you know, how do we know that someone's not going to play dress up and you know, illegally take citizens for nefarious uh issues.

1:16:08

Anyways, I also want to talk about a report consequences of the illegal immigration for housing affordability government budgets and American workers.

1:16:16

Our next speaker, a follow-up speaker, Mr.

1:16:19

Ronald Foster.

1:16:23

Good morning, uh through the president.

1:16:25

Just a few questions.

1:16:28

If you speak on the good for the last 10 years, then you must also take accountability for the bad that has occurred.

1:16:36

Is this administration a new one or continuation of the last 10 years?

1:16:42

You can't preach the last 10 years and then also preach starting new and starting fresh.

1:16:50

When we look at the Leland House, I just wanted to point out when it first came down here, it started out about a $50,000 DTE bill.

1:16:58

We're looking at $850,000 within 60 days.

1:17:02

There's plenty of room for improvement in addressing our system, and it's pretty plenty of room for negotiations at a human level.

1:17:12

Oh I wanted to talk about racket, influence corrupt organizations.

1:17:20

Are we denouncing gang activity or are we using our tax dollars to endorse a gang lifestyle?

1:17:27

Are you all being influenced by gangs, or are you doing the influencing in this community?

1:17:34

I think that's important.

1:17:36

Thirdly, I want to talk about the police officer.

1:17:40

Not all a little more bad, but I did want to speak in particular about the police officer that tracked down a young lady.

1:17:47

Went to her house using some form of technology to find out where she was at.

1:17:52

Maybe geofencing.

1:17:54

These are all things that other citizens complain about.

1:17:58

And I didn't say it was the judge that said that this officer used some type of technology.

1:18:03

It cannot be a blind eye turn to our civil liberties, the technology use and the cause, ordinances that was ordained by this community.

1:18:15

And lastly, some of our council members have used tax dollars to shame individuals, try to ridicule individuals, use as shame to call down the department here.

1:18:35

So we'll feel who is our first caller.

1:18:37

Good morning.

1:18:38

First caller is phone number ending in 169.

1:19:03

Let's put their caller at the end of the queue and go to the next caller, please.

1:19:09

Next caller is Betty A.

1:19:11

Varner.

1:19:12

Betty A.

1:19:12

Varner, the floor is yours.

1:19:14

Good morning.

1:19:14

General public comment.

1:19:16

Uh good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

1:19:19

I'm Betty A.

1:19:20

Barner, president of the Soda Ellsworth Black Association.

1:19:24

Uh, want to share some good news that our um association, we are going to be uh bringing a health fair to our community.

1:19:36

Please save the date, April 18th.

1:19:40

Uh, it's gonna be from 10 a.m.

1:19:43

to 1 p.m.

1:19:45

There will be a flyer coming out.

1:19:47

It's going to be free health services for adult and children.

1:20:05

And we're also hoping to have ear testing.

1:20:10

And this is going to be a citywide event.

1:20:14

Whoever needs these services, we know people are having challenges with the health insurance.

1:20:21

It will be free.

1:20:22

You have uh don't have to show any health insurance.

1:20:26

Uh, even if you live outside of the city of Detroit, you are welcome.

1:20:31

And it's gonna be at 7151 FINCO, and that's the Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church, right on FINCO and Monica.

1:20:46

And there will be additional uh information in the near future, and as I said before, there will be a flyer.

1:20:55

We're hoping that you will lock this date down, pass this information, and we are trying to do our part to help people continue to be healthy and deal with the health challenges.

1:21:10

We are still in need for help for our FINKE quarter, and I'm hoping the administration and the council will assist us.

1:21:22

You next caller, please.

1:21:24

Next caller is Shemika.

1:21:27

Shamika, the floor is yours.

1:21:28

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:21:37

Shamika, are you there?

1:21:43

Let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

1:21:49

Next caller is Karen Hammer.

1:21:52

Karen Hammer, the floor is yours.

1:21:54

We have two minutes.

1:21:54

General public comment.

1:21:57

Hello.

1:21:58

Hello.

1:21:59

Yes, can you hear me?

1:22:01

Yes, ma'am.

1:22:04

I'm calling about two budget priorities.

1:22:07

The first is to add 16 million to the transit budget, join unions and communities to double D dot, double the bus service and the drivers.

1:22:19

Take Detroit service back to and beyond what it was before the pandemic.

1:22:26

Make it convenient and decrease the air pollution in high asthma rate Detroit.

1:22:34

Second, right to counsel.

1:22:37

This is the right for renters to have free legal counsel from predatory landlords, fully funded and implemented at all levels.

1:22:48

Right to counsel has to be a visible citywide system with alerts in all city departments that deal with the public.

1:22:58

This allows tenants to prepare their cases.

1:23:02

In 30% of the court cases, folks had no advanced notice of the program or of their rights.

1:23:11

Also in 36 district courts, judges must consistently inform right to counsel rights in all and throughout all hearings.

1:23:27

With the landlords not required to appear personally, but tenants face default if they lack appearing, even if they have an attorney.

1:23:53

Thank you.

1:23:54

Next caller, please.

1:23:56

Next caller is Tahira Ahmad.

1:24:09

Caller, are you there?

1:24:14

Good morning.

1:24:15

Can you hear me?

1:24:16

Yes, ma'am.

1:24:18

Oh, thank you.

1:24:19

Um I'd like to uh go back into our hundred uh the prop the coalition for property tax 100 days um request and demands.

1:24:33

Place a uh MAO qualified individual as Detroit's chief assessing officer.

1:24:41

Mesure Detroit's chief property tax assessor has passed the Michigan Master Assessing Officers, MMAO, also known uh examination required for a city of Detroit's size, enforce the property tax reform ordinance passed in 2023.

1:25:02

Stop overassessing lower valued homes, protect owner occupant exemptions, uh, and get those LLCs off uh the pre or the PRE roles, return the money to overtaxed homeowners.

1:25:21

This is important.

1:25:22

Uh I want to emphasize request a clarifying opinion from attorney general nessel that addresses the city's authority to provide tax credits and if necessary and pay and cash payments.

1:25:38

Introduce a tax credit ordinance that codifies the city's authority, defines a process for credit eligibility and distribution, identifies funding sources, and mandates reporting.

1:25:55

I want to ask if you have uh taken the um LLCs off the PRE roles.

1:26:03

I'm asking the question if we can get uh an answer to that.

1:26:06

Direct the officer of assessor to remove those ineligible LLCs, they shouldn't be on the PRE roles.

1:26:14

So if you could answer that, I would appreciate it.

1:26:17

Have a blessed date.

1:26:20

Next caller, please.

1:26:26

Next caller, please.

1:26:28

Next caller is William M.

1:26:30

Davis.

1:26:31

William M.

1:26:32

Davis, the floor is yours.

1:26:33

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:26:37

Uh uh, good morning.

1:26:38

Can I be heard?

1:26:40

Yes, sir.

1:26:41

Um it's interesting what's going on with the Leland House, but if you look all around the city, there are a lot of many Leland houses going on.

1:26:50

Just a couple of weeks ago, one of my friends at 77 years old stays on the Palmer Park on Coverton.

1:26:56

You know, he was pushed out of his apartment.

1:26:59

And people are constantly being pushed out, locked out, no heat, no, you know, different problems they have.

1:27:05

You know, I think the city should be doing a more aggressive job of inspecting multifamily units.

1:27:11

Also, when the city do find out that there are these some of these structures and buildings may have the water or the gas straight pipe so they don't have to pay their full share.

1:27:22

You know, that's legal action should start immediately.

1:27:26

Also, it should be a uh a mechanism so that the city can find out, you know, for these registers, LLC for these multifamily units.

1:27:37

You know, at the very least, you should be able to ask them are they in the United States?

1:27:40

Are they in Michigan?

1:27:42

Are they in Detroit?

1:27:43

And do they own others?

1:27:44

Or are they investing in other LLCs?

1:27:47

You know, we need to clarify and get more information, and we need to be more proactive to protect more people because this is going on all over the city now.

1:27:56

This isn't just happening.

1:27:58

This has been going on for years.

1:28:00

You know, the city used to have a number of people that used to do a number of inspections.

1:28:04

You know, the city, since the bankruptcy has gotten worse in a number of ways.

1:28:09

You know, we need to be more protective of our citizens and just do more to help more people.

1:28:16

Thank you.

1:28:17

Thank you.

1:28:18

Next caller, please.

1:28:24

Veronica Smith, it's Veronica Smith.

1:28:26

The floor is yours.

1:28:27

Two minutes, general public comment.

1:28:30

Good morning.

1:28:31

My name is Veronica Smith with the callist for property tax justice, and I would like to reiterate our first 100 days plan.

1:28:40

What do we want?

1:28:41

Property tax justice.

1:28:43

Who can give it what we want?

1:28:45

Mayor Sheffield.

1:28:46

How do we get what we want?

1:28:48

The five pillars.

1:28:49

The first pillar, we want to ensure that Detroit's chief property tax accessor has passed the Michigan Master Assessing Officer Examinations, the MMAO, which is required for a city of Detroit's size.

1:29:03

Two, enforce the property tax reform ordinance passed in 2023 to upgrade the Detroit Notice of Assessment to produce an annual independent assessment study ratio and provide property tax assessment data online every January 1st.

1:29:20

Three, stop overassessing the lower valued homes.

1:29:24

Mandate the assessment division not to use only warranty deeds in their analysis.

1:29:29

Direct the Office of Assessors to follow the 1% standard and send an extra letter to the taxpayer in case of an exception.

1:29:39

Four protect own occupant exemptions, get those LLCs off the PRE rolls, and five, return the money to overtax homeowners.

1:29:49

Request a clarifying opinion from attorney general nestle that addresses the city's authority to provide tax credits.

1:29:57

And on a personal note regarding the lean-in house, that situation was not a natural disaster.

1:30:02

The city of Detroit owes those tenants whatever they need to have to restore them.

1:30:07

And as far as that generator is concerned, need to have a two week's notice.

1:30:10

If the generators need it, order it.

1:30:13

Thank you.

1:30:15

Thank you.

1:30:16

Next caller, please.

1:30:18

Next caller is owner Papa.

1:30:21

Caller, the floor is yours.

1:30:22

We have two minutes.

1:30:23

General public comment.

1:30:28

Good morning.

1:30:29

And through the chair, may I be heard?

1:30:30

Yes.

1:30:31

Yes, you've heard some some very um interesting comments today that you all should take to heart.

1:30:38

Um first of all, the the uh assessor's office is so worried about sending me triplets in my bill.

1:30:45

But uh as part as far as PRE, I was removed from the rolls for no apparent reason, and uh that's how LLCs are being put on the roles, it's illegally being done, and Mr.

1:30:55

Hornsby or whatever his name is, he needs to go, and we need to hire someone with the proper credentials who know how to do this job.

1:31:03

Um Julie Schneider should be let go, and um Miss Romero should be removed from the the uh health and safety committee.

1:31:11

We need a total investigation on the Leland House and B say it.

1:31:15

We had the same problem with Munaz and Miss Romero, even though we never came to a resolution about B said and the and the blight tickets that they were supposed to be giving.

1:31:27

See, that's the reason why the Leland House was allowed to deteriorate in the way that it has deteriorated, where people can't live there, and you can tell that it was contrived because no one, including the uh Conrad Mallet, nor Romero will admit will say that these people have a right to return.

1:31:46

It's the same way it was with Black Bottom and Paradise Valley.

1:31:50

When you removed black people, you would not give them a right to return, and now the project is kaput.

1:31:56

You put play things in place to keep us from being having the ability to do that.

1:32:01

Uh uh, let me say, Mr.

1:32:02

Whitaker and his entire family can sing.

1:32:05

They have beautiful voices, all of them.

1:32:07

And let me tell you, your dangerous buildings.

1:32:09

Um, I can read it says the the building's structure is defined under the order that the condition or the structure above is currently safe, it's not currently safe and cannot be made safe.

1:32:22

So the whole dangerous building that's going through her committee is corrupt.

1:32:27

We need a full investigation of the PREs and of this.

1:32:32

Next caller, please.

1:32:34

Next caller is Darren McLesky.

1:32:38

Caller, the floor is yours.

1:32:39

You have two minutes, General Public Comment.

1:32:42

Good morning, council.

1:32:45

Okay, so it's crazy to me that the city can't handle things as basic as code enforcement with things like the Leland House.

1:32:55

Yet it continues to march forward with taking land for a solar initiative.

1:33:01

Um switching gears, if you guys want to find information about LLCs, the new FinCEN Reporting Act required by the federal government.

1:33:11

Uh, will probably help you guys out there.

1:33:14

Um, it'll be more apparent who owns LLCs.

1:33:18

So last week you guys voted to demo a house uh for 26,000.

1:33:27

It had just gone to the tax auction last year.

1:33:30

You did not blight bundle it, you let it go to the auction.

1:33:34

Someone bought it also for about 26,000, and then you have an emergency demolition on uh order, it's on Medina Street.

1:33:43

Um, why is this happening?

1:33:45

Why do you guys take good properties and blight bundle them so you can sell them through the land bank at a profit later, but then let emergency demo properties go, not through the blight bundle, go to the auction and then demolish someone's house after they buy it.

1:34:02

I mean, it's just it's senseless.

1:34:04

I don't understand it.

1:34:06

And speaking of things that are incorrect, uh lots that have gone through the auction last year, many of them are assessed as residential structures still.

1:34:15

And if you try to challenge that by the assessor, it's it's so difficult to do.

1:34:21

It's so difficult.

1:34:22

In every other city where I challenge assessments, they fill out the form for you, they meet you with the smile.

1:34:28

Here in Detroit, you you get funneled through an online system that gets rejected over and over and over.

1:34:34

They tell you you have to have everything in within 24 hours, and then they tell you that you you missed the deadline after you complied with everything.

1:34:41

So, yes, I agree.

1:34:42

Alvin Horn should go.

1:34:46

Next caller, please.

1:34:48

Next caller is sound.

1:35:00

Caller, are you there?

1:35:05

Caller, are you there?

1:35:10

Let's go to the next caller, please.

1:35:11

Put that caller.

1:35:12

Good morning.

1:35:13

Can I be heard?

1:35:14

Yes, ma'am.

1:35:14

Good morning.

1:35:16

Good morning.

1:35:18

Can I be heard?

1:35:19

Yes, ma'am.

1:35:20

Good morning.

1:35:21

Um, I want to first speak on my porch that was uh rebuilt uh maybe about a year or so ago.

1:35:28

As it rains and rain hard, my porch was poured in seven inches more than what I originally had.

1:35:37

My whole porch gets wet all the way up to my door, and they need to redo that.

1:35:43

Number two, I went down to I was at the bus stop yesterday at the hard grove.

1:35:47

There was an elderly lady that's 65 years old that catches the bus to go grocery shopping at Myers.

1:35:53

She this is the she told me once while I was standing there, and then she told me I I witnessed it as I was there.

1:35:59

They told she she had groceries in her buggy, right?

1:36:02

So she bring it over for Myers because she could put it on a bus, but she had to use the bathroom.

1:36:08

They told her she could not bring that buggy inside the building because it was a private building.

1:36:13

Now that's not right.

1:36:14

We don't some people don't have cars and they go there to shop.

1:36:20

And they told her she had to leave her buggy outside, and she had over 200 worth of groceries in there.

1:36:25

She had it bagged up so when she got you know on a bus, she could put it on, and I was gonna help her.

1:36:29

But I thought she was telling her they actually told her she had to leave her buggy outside.

1:36:34

So if somebody had to start her groceries, then what?

1:36:36

That's not right.

1:36:38

That is not right.

1:36:39

So I hope y'all speak on that and look into that because this lady and people that don't have cars that go there to go shopping, and then they tell you gotta leave your buggy outside.

1:36:48

It's not allowed in that time as a private entity, and she paid taxes in the city of Detroit.

1:36:54

It's not like it was you know bother nobody.

1:36:56

She just wanted to bring her buggy in there so she can use the bathroom.

1:36:59

So I'm just letting you know this is the second time it happened to her.

1:37:02

And I told her I was gonna call city council this morning and let you all know that that's what's happening at hard grove over on eight mile.

1:37:13

Thank you.

1:37:15

Next caller, please.

1:37:17

Caller is resident.

1:37:21

I'm sorry.

1:37:23

Next caller is resident.

1:37:26

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

1:37:27

You have two minutes.

1:37:28

General public comment.

1:37:30

Good morning, may I be heard?

1:37:32

Yes.

1:37:33

Okay, thank you.

1:37:35

Uh, I think what's going on at the Leland is disgraceful.

1:37:39

It sure seems to me like a play to get rid of people and sell it and get it to market rate.

1:37:47

Uh, those of you who care on council, investigate all the players.

1:37:51

And if you have to go into closed session to get Conrad mail it to tell you what's really going on, then do it.

1:37:58

Uh, but it it's just uh seems pretty obvious to me.

1:38:02

This is a disgusting ploy to get people out and move it to market rate.

1:38:06

Um, for the purpose uh the person, well, I guess this is uh going to be discussed.

1:38:11

The lady going to the board of zoning appeals, it's a lot more work than just being the day right there.

1:38:16

Also, 24.14, a memo regarding data centers.

1:38:22

I asked once before and got no answer.

1:38:25

Uh, how many data centers do we have in Detroit?

1:38:29

And is there a data center over at the state fairgrounds?

1:38:32

Is that what the third warehouse is?

1:38:35

And why doesn't this council ask that those people who who who who have gotten a lot from the city, the son of the guy from Huntington Bank?

1:38:44

Why didn't they put solar panels up on their enormous rooftops?

1:38:49

Because they clearly added a bunch of load to the grid, and so then you use this excuse that you care about people so much, you gotta take people's private property for solar farms, and look at the way the people are being treated at the Leland.

1:39:03

And you know, and and some other people were right.

1:39:06

Why aren't you pursuing these landlords?

1:39:08

Yet you let the out-of-control land bank go after boarded up vacant homes when there are people that are truly suffering homes because they're not doing proper code enforcement.

1:39:18

So please get your priorities straight in with this uh uh budget.

1:39:24

Stop bulldozing and care about people.

1:39:27

Stop harassing people about buildings that aren't really that dangerous and go after.

1:39:33

Thank you.

1:39:34

Next caller, please.

1:39:38

Next caller is stop the war.

1:39:42

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

1:39:43

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:39:52

Are you there?

1:39:56

Let's put that caller to the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

1:40:02

Next caller is James Chandler.

1:40:04

James Chandler, the floor is yours.

1:40:06

You have two minutes.

1:40:07

General public comment.

1:40:10

Hello.

1:40:21

Mr.

1:40:21

Chandler, your your sounds like your feet is breaking up.

1:40:28

Mr.

1:40:29

Chandler, are you there?

1:40:38

Professional development programs and each other.

1:40:40

Mr.

1:40:40

Chandler, we want to give you your time.

1:40:42

Yes, can you hear me now?

1:40:43

Yep, we want to give you your complete time.

1:40:44

Can you can you hear me now?

1:40:46

Yes, sir.

1:40:46

Oh, okay.

1:40:47

I'm sorry.

1:40:48

All right, your time is started now.

1:40:49

Can you start me back at two minutes?

1:40:50

I'm sorry.

1:40:53

All right, let's take the clock back to two.

1:40:55

All right, Mr.

1:40:55

Chandler, the floor is yours, sir.

1:40:57

Yes.

1:40:58

I want to express my concern regarding the lack of accessible, well-funded professional development programs in Detroit that prepare residents for high-level careers, such as attorneys, registered nurses, physicians, uh, nurse practitioners.

1:41:12

Uh it has become increasingly clear that Detroit does not offer the same structure pathways funding.

1:41:20

Um accessible career bridge programs.

1:41:27

Our available steps have been forced to seek educational portroy.

1:41:31

This reality reflects uh a gap in local investment and workforce development.

1:41:35

Voters should be able to support any candidate they choose.

1:41:38

Also, council members vote on citywide issues, not just district matters.

1:41:42

I call for a transition to a citywide at large election model.

1:41:45

There is also a need for a six-month minimum rent threshold before eviction.

1:41:50

At this moment, many residents, particularly single individuals who are not enrolled in programs such as section eight, are paying full rent, yet living in conditions far below the standard provided to those receiving subsidized housing.

1:42:01

Uh so-called paying 1300, 1800 a month for an apartment, and it's draining people before they even start living.

1:42:08

Uh, also real ID and some of the policies, these changes are unreasonable.

1:42:15

Uh, and to attend a four to six year university, it shouldn't cost thousands.

1:42:20

Uh I need some responses to those and some changes.

1:42:24

Thank you.

1:42:26

Next caller, please.

1:42:31

Number in the end 482.

1:42:35

All right, caller.

1:42:36

The floor is yours.

1:42:37

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:42:47

What's up, James?

1:42:48

Tate.

1:42:49

James E.

1:42:50

Tate Jr.

1:42:51

It's Black Bag Rue.

1:42:54

And you TB is and the rest of the members of the city council is keeping in and comrades and you may play no games with me.

1:43:01

I'm sick uh oh y'all at the city council.

1:43:05

So I didn't have to turn back to real.

1:43:10

Now I'm gonna tell you the truth.

1:43:12

And I had to come from me ten times.

1:43:16

Nine times to the Detroit Center, one time to Detroit receiving hospital, and it's American behavior center.

1:43:24

And Nimi still won't what the F she wants.

1:43:28

You want that tag above her mama, and y'all didn't want to do it.

1:43:32

Y'all have been cheating in elections since 2020.

1:43:36

I gave the information to number 47, Donald J.

1:43:41

Trump.

1:43:41

Whoever don't like it, y'all can smoke, you know what?

1:43:46

Now I'm gonna tell you, Jane.

1:43:48

You call Kenita's mother, my friend, Anthony Ivy.

1:43:52

So now you gotta deal with Rue.

1:43:55

Mr.

1:43:56

Rue.

1:43:57

And I don't play no games with nobody.

1:43:59

I keep it above.

1:44:02

I'm gonna help hundreds of kids.

1:44:04

Somebody over here calling me a pedophile.

1:44:09

I done did the incredible in Detroit.

1:44:12

Look out the window where you sit at City Council, and you might see some of the stuff I did.

1:44:18

Drive up and down the Davidson Freeway.

1:44:20

You might find out a little bit more about me because I'm getting ready to come out the bag on all y'all.

1:44:26

Y'all gotta go.

1:44:31

Black bag root.

1:44:32

Mr.

1:44:33

Rule, Mr.

1:44:34

Real.

1:44:37

Stand up God.

1:44:38

Not stand on mine.

1:44:41

Sucker.

1:44:46

Thank you.

1:44:46

Next caller, please.

1:44:51

Next caller is City of Detroit resident.

1:44:55

All right, City of Detroit resident.

1:44:56

The floor is yours.

1:44:57

You have two minutes.

1:44:58

General public comment.

1:45:04

Caller, are you there?

1:45:09

Let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

1:45:17

Next caller is Teresa Renee Davis.

1:45:22

You have two minutes of general public comment.

1:45:42

Let's put this caller at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

1:45:48

Next caller is iPhone.

1:45:51

Caller, the floor is yours.

1:45:52

We have two minutes.

1:45:53

General public comment.

1:46:02

Yeah, uh I heard that DTE broke the concrete on the sidewalk in front of the Leeland house.

1:46:11

And that's how the uh their transformers and electric stuff went went out in the basement.

1:46:19

So I just wondered if anybody looked into that, because I heard DT on most of the buildings around there too, in that same area.

1:46:27

I went to the meeting last night that the mayor's staff had to talk about budget and have people present.

1:46:37

And I'll tell you, if you guys can't even open up chat so that we can connect.

1:46:44

If you want to try and solve all our problems, we can bring them all to you.

1:46:49

And we won't we all just wait till you solve them.

1:46:52

Or we can start trying to figure out how to work together as a community.

1:46:56

The people that are calling in and the people listening.

1:47:00

Because I couldn't even ask a question.

1:47:04

I and it went from they said there wasn't time for us all to ask questions.

1:47:08

Well, there were 240 people on the call, evidently, but they had presentations.

1:47:13

I did have a question.

1:47:14

Well, you got these free uh helicopters from the defense department years ago, and a friend of mine that retired from the Navy said that those cost at that time that was $300 an hour to fly those helicopters.

1:47:30

So it wasn't such a good deal for us, and unless we want to fly around in helicopters.

1:47:36

So now my question was uh are they still gonna have the helicopters when they they pay for all these drones for each police department?

1:47:45

Each precinct's gonna have drones.

1:47:47

I couldn't ask it because the chat wasn't open and they didn't allow me to ask a question.

1:47:52

It was only certain people.

1:47:54

So I you know what kind of democracy is this?

1:47:58

And you know, uh why don't you go after Illich's buildings?

1:48:02

How many of these destroyed?

1:48:04

The one across the street, they finally got the red code.

1:48:07

Thank you.

1:48:08

Next caller, please.

1:48:11

Next caller is caller, the floor is yours.

1:48:15

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:48:17

Hi, can I be hearing?

1:48:19

Yes.

1:48:20

Hi, I'm calling because of my experience with the land bank uh since July.

1:48:26

I've entered a several purchase agreements, and for one reason or another, they have um canceled the agreement uh first happening uh in July.

1:48:35

Um, for 10 lots, nine of them uh they agreed to sell um in the 10th one when uh demo hold was released from one of the lots um one week prior to closing on that one.

1:48:47

They said no, all the titles hadn't cleared on the nine.

1:48:50

Uh again in December, I signed another agreement, and that was now um held because they're saying one of my lots is one of the dirty dirt possible contaminations.

1:49:01

Jana at the land bank um said that somebody in the city is preventing her from selling the other nine lots other than that dirty dirt um possible contamination.

1:49:11

Um she first blamed it on the city of Detroit legal.

1:49:14

Um I debunked that and they said they did not give her any directive on anything other than the possible contaminated lot.

1:49:21

I would like to move forward with this purchase.

1:49:24

It's been nine months.

1:49:25

Um I'm very concerned that I've spoken with uh one of the council members who is not even aware that we don't have an MOU with the land bank.

1:49:34

Um, they operate without any um parameters on how they operate.

1:49:39

They operate as a for-profit.

1:49:41

Um, if we're gonna enter another MOU, I would like to see a lot more um restrictions on how they operate.

1:49:47

Um, I did send an email to council person Benson and Waters this morning.

1:49:52

Um hopefully I can get my purchase agreement put through.

1:50:00

Um, it doesn't make any sense why they are restricting the sale of all the rest of my lots um that I've been at since July.

1:50:03

And just to be clear, I cleaned out the entire alley over there in a very, very bad area.

1:50:09

Um, and I've been maintaining these lots, and I don't understand why they will not continue with the purchase of the nine lots and set the one lot aside until it has it has been remediated.

1:50:22

Next caller, please.

1:50:25

Next caller is Mrs.

1:50:27

Mayberry, Mrs.

1:50:29

Mayberry.

1:50:30

The floor is yours.

1:50:30

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:50:38

Mrs.

1:50:39

Mayberry, are you there?

1:50:44

Let's go to the next.

1:50:45

Let's put this caller at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

1:50:52

Okay, next next caller is number ending in one six nine.

1:50:57

Caller ending in one six nine.

1:51:04

Can you guys hear me?

1:51:05

Yes, sir.

1:51:08

Okay.

1:51:08

Um, thank you.

1:51:10

Thank you.

1:51:11

Thank you.

1:51:11

Thank you.

1:51:12

Thank you, Madam Mayor Sheffield.

1:51:14

Um, thank you for starting off with full force.

1:51:18

Um, I'm praying for you.

1:51:19

Yes, little old me and brother Cunningham is humble and praying for you, I'm sure.

1:51:24

Um, let's six D dot.

1:51:26

Madam Mayor, um keep thinking outside the box.

1:51:30

Continue to allow the Holy Spirit to use you.

1:51:34

Thank you for my time.

1:51:35

Thank you.

1:51:36

Next caller, please.

1:51:38

Next caller is Shemika.

1:51:41

Caller, the floor is yours.

1:51:43

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:51:49

Caller, are you there?

1:51:51

Yes, I'm here.

1:51:52

Can you hear me?

1:51:53

Yes, ma'am.

1:51:54

Yes, ma'am.

1:51:55

Hi.

1:51:55

Um, I would say good morning, but it's pretty hard to feel good living in survival mode.

1:52:02

My name is Shemika.

1:52:04

You can follow me on Facebook under M I K Space M-I-K.

1:52:09

Meet Me.

1:52:10

I used to think that I was in love with Detroit.

1:52:13

I'm not so sure anymore.

1:52:15

I feel as though I am hated by the people who run this city.

1:52:18

September of 2025, I was the victim of a drug facilitated sexual assault.

1:52:24

I'm speaking before you today because the Detroit police department has violated me more aggressively than the person who drugged me that night.

1:52:34

Yesterday I spoke with a Sergeant Eaton in the sex crimes unit.

1:52:39

The investigation surrounding my assault has been closed, and I never received a letter or email to notify me.

1:52:46

Michigan State Police just completed the forensic sexual assault kit last week, and DPD hasn't shared those results with me.

1:52:54

Why would my case be closed?

1:52:57

But the results were just completed.

1:53:00

I have submitted an FOIA request that the DPD sent to the city of Detroit Law Department.

1:53:06

And they have sent me a huge invoice so I can see the videos and documentation surrounding my talk.

1:53:13

I have been treated like a criminal, not the victim of a crime.

1:53:16

At this point, I do not trust the Detroit police, and I believe that the policies need to be changed.

1:53:23

This month of March is women's history month.

1:53:26

The theme is rights, justice, and actions for all women.

1:53:30

What side of history will you be on?

1:53:32

Who will stand with me?

1:53:34

I need justice.

1:53:35

I need answers.

1:53:36

You are elected officials.

1:53:38

Please do your job.

1:53:40

Please respect your positions and speak up for the least of these.

1:53:44

Thank you.

1:53:47

Next caller, please.

1:53:49

Next caller is stop the war.

1:53:53

You have two minutes.

1:53:54

General public comment.

1:54:06

Uh, we're returning to this caller, correct?

1:54:08

Correct.

1:54:09

All right, please note those that we are returning to.

1:54:11

We're gonna give this caller another opportunity.

1:54:13

Caller, are you there?

1:54:16

Going once.

1:54:18

Going twice.

1:54:20

One three times.

1:54:21

Caller, are you there?

1:54:25

Unfortunately, we're gonna have to move on.

1:54:27

If you would like to provide your comments to the clerk's office, it will be placed onto public record.

1:54:31

Next caller, please.

1:54:33

Next caller is City of Detroit resident for 75 years.

1:54:40

General public comment.

1:54:49

I already spoke.

1:54:50

I response.

1:54:52

Ms.

1:54:52

Ruby Riley, if you can please just only only one phone.

1:54:56

We we always get you.

1:54:57

We get you every time.

1:54:58

It's a little confused when you have two phones.

1:55:00

We appreciate you working with us.

1:55:02

Next caller, please.

1:55:04

Next caller is Mrs.

1:55:05

Mayberry.

1:55:10

Good morning.

1:55:11

Two minutes, general public comment.

1:55:17

Hello, hello.

1:55:18

Can you hear me?

1:55:19

Yes, ma'am.

1:55:20

Good morning.

1:55:21

My name is Vanetta May Mayberry.

1:55:23

I was calling in regards to Mary Sheffield, our mayor, had uh said that she would help to restore the Martin Luther King Memorial Park on 12th Street and West Grand Boulevard.

1:55:36

I hadn't heard anything about the renovations of it.

1:55:39

But it needs to be it's in deplorable shape.

1:55:43

Uh she said that she would be working on it.

1:55:46

I see that uh they I was on a Zoom call uh earlier last month.

1:55:53

Um anyway, um, they were talking about the the uh revitalization of West Grand Boulevard, but I didn't hear anything about the park itself.

1:56:04

Uh so I wanted to call about that.

1:56:06

I also want to call about um the situation in front of my house.

1:56:10

They dug up um to the war department dug up my front yard last year, and they told me that they would be able to put uh some grass out there.

1:56:21

They put some dirty dirt out there because there's nothing growing on it, it's just a mud pile.

1:56:25

It's been a mud pile for over a year now.

1:56:27

I've been quarreling about it, and I haven't got any results on it.

1:56:31

So um I would like to know when will they be coming out?

1:56:35

And they cracked the sidewalk.

1:56:37

My brother had just replaced that sidewalk out there.

1:56:40

Um, and they cracked the sidewalk also.

1:56:43

So they told me they was gonna send someone out to uh to look at it again, but I haven't seen anyone in the whole year that has been out there.

1:56:53

We had a water main break across the street, and they dug up on my side of the street also to repair that and it hasn't been repaired.

1:57:01

And I would like to know also when is the city of Detroit going to turn that Martin Luther King statue that's in Hart Plaza, turn it around to face the people that Martin Luther King died for, and that is the people of United States of America and not hollering across uh the water at Canada to get to express whatever thank you so much.

1:57:25

Next caller, please.

1:57:26

And our last caller, sir, Teresa D.

1:57:29

All right, caller.

1:57:30

The floor is yours.

1:57:31

You have two minutes, general public comment.

1:57:33

All right, you guys, can you hear me?

1:57:35

Yes, ma'am.

1:57:36

Okay, I was having technical difficulties earlier.

1:57:39

So I just want to say thank you to you all um for being up here um and um coming in front of us today and let allowing us to come in front of you guys.

1:57:47

Thank you to my councilwoman Renata Miller for all of the help that she has assisted with.

1:57:52

Um and um I'm a member of the um district five community advisory council, and I just want to arise some issues um in the community.

1:58:02

We have some vacant lots that are on Townsend Street that uh we believe and you know, perhaps ordinances or whatever you guys have.

1:58:14

Um the um vacant lots should be um offered to the uh homeowners adjacent to the those lots.

1:58:24

Um, they have been a hold on the lots next to us, and we're trying to figure out how we can get those lots and they have a sale for those lots right now.

1:58:33

They're saying it's the land bank, but we don't know exactly who has the hold on the lots, and um they're doing a package deal for like 12,000.

1:58:42

Um, we're trying to find out what's going on with that, and how could the residents get what they want out of that um out of those vacant lots?

1:58:49

Also, um I want to address like businesses, uh local businesses having public restrooms, and their restrooms are out of order.

1:58:57

People can't use the restrooms in the public businesses.

1:59:00

If you're in somewhere for 15 minutes or more, or you're shopping around, you should be able to use the public restrooms, and there are a lot of public places um that have restrooms that are out of order and not um accessible to the public.

1:59:13

Also, um, we do not the community, we the community outside of any organizations, the community um do not support the arise uh Butzel Family Center parking lot um development, and um yes, we definitely oppose that development.

1:59:29

Thank you guys for hearing me today.

1:59:30

You guys have a great day.

1:59:32

Thank you.

1:59:34

I believe that takes us to the end of our public comments.

1:59:37

Uh, we will now um this portion will be reserved for members who would like to provide comment.

1:59:44

And I know member Calloway had raised her hand early.

1:59:46

Callaway, the floor is yours, ma'am.

1:59:50

Thank you, Mr.

1:59:51

Chair.

1:59:51

I was simply um gonna ask the young man who was here what his zip code was, but he's gone.

1:59:56

Thank you, Mr.

1:59:56

Chair.

1:59:57

All right, thank you.

1:59:58

And I know Mr.

2:00:00

Mann was here earlier, and it's been brought up this recommendation of city council or request for city council to provide uh free parking for residents who want to come down and provide public comment.

2:00:10

I will just say, speaking for myself, I would not be in support of that because that is not necessarily a budget priority at this moment.

2:00:17

What is a priority is to ensure that residents have an opportunity to voice their comments and concerns to this body.

2:00:24

And we have uh consistently supported uh Zoom uh and allow for a hybrid uh model where most major cities do not allow that, and they only allow for in-person.

2:00:36

Uh, that is not mandated by uh the state at all, but we're doing this because we want to ensure that uh we have more folks uh who are uh being able to participate in this process.

2:00:46

As you see time and time again, we have far more folks who join us online than in person, and I do uh want to ensure that we continue that again.

2:00:54

That is just my personal uh opinion as a member of this body.

2:00:58

Colleagues, any other comments that you would like to provide discussion further discussion, member Benson.

2:01:05

All right, thank you.

2:01:05

And I support the policy of answering and responding afterwards, something I've advocated for in the past.

2:01:12

So thank you for this implementation.

2:01:13

Um, and just when people come to this body and talk about voter fraud, election fraud, that is disinformation.

2:01:22

And it is voter disenfranchisement.

2:01:26

And so don't let it be fooled as I'm trying to help and support and get information out.

2:01:31

No, what you're trying to do is suppress the vote.

2:01:34

What you're trying to do is provide disinformation.

2:01:37

That is doing our people a disservice, is doing the residents of Detroit a disservice, and it's wrong.

2:01:44

And so I'm glad that we have people like our Secretary of State and our city clerk who fight against this type of disinformation and put out facts when it comes to saying people are voting illegally.

2:01:57

That is such a rare instance.

2:02:02

That is, it is a non-issue when it comes to elections.

2:02:07

That is disinformation is trying to stop people from voting, it's undermining democracy as well as our American way of life when it comes to voting.

2:02:19

Thank you.

2:02:20

Thank you.

2:02:20

I will also add if Ms.

2:02:22

Shemika, we didn't get your information, and thankfully we didn't get your information, didn't want that out there in the public, but would like for you to please reach out to my office.

2:02:29

We can help investigate that situation that you raised um concerning the police department.

2:02:35

My phone number is 313 224, 1027.

2:02:39

This is Council President Tate again, 313 224, 1027.

2:02:47

Thank you.

2:02:47

Uh Pro Tim Young.

2:02:51

Uh, I didn't have any questions about what was going on.

2:02:54

Well, well, let me just say this.

2:02:55

I I do think that it's my concern about the clerk's office and their protection.

2:03:00

I think we're not talking necessarily people here, but I think we have in this environment where people feel that the election is stolen, the amount of disinformation, misinformation has been put out there.

2:03:09

Also the fact I think that the president of the United States is talking about federalizing elections.

2:03:14

I think that this is a very dangerous time.

2:03:17

It's a very dark time for people who do the thankless work of preserving, protecting, and advancing our democracy because democracy is so important because it's the right that ensures all the other rights.

2:03:29

And so I know that through this budget uh period, I'm gonna be able to make sure that I do what I can to be able to protect the clerks to make sure they're safe, as well as the city clerk as well.

2:03:39

And I think unfortunately, in this time, and I'm not saying people here who are speaking.

2:03:43

I mean, look, people have the right to say what they want to say, speak how they want to speak.

2:03:47

I support the first amendment, you know, you know, matter no matter how much abhorrent the things might be.

2:03:53

I will defend to the end their right to say them.

2:03:55

And so I think that's very important.

2:03:58

But I just really believe that we have to be careful with how people are being treated in these times.

2:04:07

Hate crimes are on the rise.

2:04:09

And being since we are a majority African American city, most of the hate crimes are issued against black people.

2:04:15

And so we need to be very careful how we talk to each other, how we talk to ourselves.

2:04:19

We can agree, disagree.

2:04:20

There's a lot of things that we can agree on, but I think we need to have some decor, and if we can have the court, at least have respect and try to see each other halfway through.

2:04:28

Uh, that being said, I also just wanted to say um I will be making a motion, it's not coming up late later, but I'll be making a motion on uh 18.9 to uh postpone the votes uh pointing Sabrina McCaskill to the board of zoning appeals.

2:04:42

I just want to let everybody know that as well so we can take care of that.

2:04:45

Thank you.

2:04:48

All right, thank you.

2:04:50

Thank you, Member Miller.

2:04:52

I just wanted to say in regards to the caller um on Townsend, Ms.

2:04:57

Davis.

2:04:58

Uh I believe you said she was part of the CAC.

2:05:01

I am in full support of districts five CAC.

2:05:04

They are very active.

2:05:05

And I want to thank you for the work that you're doing and continue to do.

2:05:08

I did receive your invite for your uh neighborhood meeting on Thursday.

2:05:13

And let me say this clearly, Madam Mayor has rolled out her plan and she supports rec centers.

2:05:20

In fact, she's bringing midnight golf and she's extending the hours till 11 p.m.

2:05:26

at seven centers.

2:05:27

So I do not support the teardown of any rec center in Detroit.

2:05:31

And as the new part, as is the new task force for curfew violation.

2:05:36

I plan to try to utilize those rec centers to help curve that issue that we have in the summer with our youth.

2:05:43

So, Ms.

2:05:43

Davis, please know that I will try to attend at your meeting and I will be there.

2:05:47

I'm not sure exactly what time, but I do support our residents.

2:05:50

And if they're saying they want that rec center to stand, I will do with everything in my power to try to accommodate the residents on Townsend and I believe uh that is the Charlevoy Village Block Club, and that uh extends off Kerchival.

2:06:05

Thank you very much.

2:06:06

Thank you.

2:06:07

Member McCampbell.

2:06:09

Thank you, Mr.

2:06:10

President.

2:06:11

Um, I will also echo the sentiments of my colleagues as we talk about um voting and to stress that um you know the folks who are eligible to vote voting is a very rare occurrence.

2:06:25

Um, our elections all are safe and secure.

2:06:28

We should be doing all that we can to increase access to a ballot box.

2:06:31

And I know this body uh took action to support a resolution against the efforts to require uh more stringent and undue obstacles to voting.

2:06:43

Um, right now on the federal level, this legislation is being tied to funding with the federal government.

2:06:48

So it is very um concerning that we are on a pathway to disenfranchise even more folks for voting.

2:06:55

I know also know that there is a uh resident that called in about the sidewalk and um of dirt being left of uh repair.

2:07:04

I'm not sure what district they're in, but um we've had quite a few of that that we had to deal with in district seven.

2:07:10

But um, if folks want to reach out at 313 2242151 for my office, happy to connect them to the right places.

2:07:18

Thank you.

2:07:19

Thank you so much.

2:07:20

Member Walder.

2:07:21

Uh thank you, Mr.

2:07:22

President.

2:07:23

Um, to the resident who called in regarding the land bank, if you could give us a call at 313 628-2363, 313, 628, 2363.

2:07:38

We look forward to talking with you.

2:07:39

Thank you, Mr.

2:07:40

President.

2:07:41

Thank you.

2:07:41

Uh member Santiago Romero.

2:07:43

Thank you, Mr.

2:07:44

President.

2:07:44

Um, there was a question regarding Flock.

2:07:46

Our office is looking into this.

2:07:47

There's a memo in our committee in PHS right now, asking about Flock where they're uh located and more questions are on cameras.

2:07:55

I highly recommend if anyone is interested in our work to just email our office.

2:08:00

We are trying our very best to be responsive and get you the information that you need.

2:08:05

Um, so while I love and appreciate and know the importance of public comments, I also believe we can be more efficient, effective, um working through email or calls um if possible.

2:08:15

Um so welcome that through our office.

2:08:17

Thank you, Mr.

2:08:17

President.

2:08:18

Thank you.

2:08:18

Colleagues, any further seeing none, we shall continue with the agenda.

2:08:24

Madam McClerk, under committee reports from the budget finance and audit standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

2:08:33

Councilmember McCampbell, a resolution line item 17.1.

2:08:37

Member McCampbell.

2:08:39

Contract number 600 7747, 100% city funding to provide representation to the IRS and state of Michigan for payroll tax matters.

2:08:51

Contractor Barry Mormon PC, total contract amount 50,000.

2:08:57

That's for the OCFO's office.

2:08:59

Councilmember McCampbell, a resolution.

2:09:02

Thank you.

2:09:02

Line item 17.1, Member McCall.

2:09:05

Motion to approve 17.1.

2:09:07

Thank you.

2:09:08

There's a motion to approve line item 7.1, colleagues.

2:09:10

Any objections?

2:09:12

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

2:09:17

Uh from the office of the city clerk, city planning commission, madam clerk.

2:09:21

Councilmember McCampbell, a resolution line item 17.2.

2:09:26

Thank you so much.

2:09:27

Line item 17.2, member McCampbell.

2:09:29

Motion to approve 17.2.

2:09:31

That's a motion to approve line item 17.2.

2:09:34

Any objections?

2:09:36

See none.

2:09:37

That action shall be taken.

2:09:41

For the internal operations standing committee from the mayor's office.

2:09:45

Councilmember Winfield Calloway, two resolutions, line items 18.1 and 18.2, noting, Mr.

2:09:52

President, that both of those items, the administration has submitted a amended resolution to clarify the effective date, which is to be immediately outside of February the 20th, as was printed.

2:10:05

Thank you so much.

2:10:06

And I see that we do have before us, colleagues, two documents, line item 18.1 and 18.2.

2:10:13

Don't know if this is a new uh format that's being requested by the clerk's office.

2:10:17

Usually we do a roll call or um maybe even another document if it's more than one entity.

2:10:24

Is this a new process?

2:10:26

Well, we you're looking for us to put a yay or nay.

2:10:32

Mr.

2:10:32

President, these two items we do not have a roll call for these two items.

2:10:37

Okay.

2:10:38

All right.

2:10:39

Member Woodfield Callaway, line item 18.1 and 18.2.

2:10:43

Um these are two appointments to the human rights um commission with the effective immediately through February 20th through 2029.

2:10:54

Uh to approve.

2:10:56

Thank you so much.

2:10:57

Um, there's a motion to approve line items 18.1 and 18.2, colleagues.

2:11:02

Any objections?

2:11:05

See none, but action shall be taken.

2:11:08

Mr.

2:11:08

Chair, requesting waivers on both.

2:11:10

The request for waiver on line items 18.1 and 18.2, colleagues.

2:11:14

Any objections?

2:11:16

Say none, waiver shall be attached.

2:11:19

Thank you.

2:11:20

From the law department.

2:11:21

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway, a resolution, line item 18.3.

2:11:26

Member Callaway.

2:11:27

Motion to approve line item 18.3, Mr.

2:11:30

Chair.

2:11:30

There's a motion to approve line item 18.3, colleagues.

2:11:33

Any objections?

2:11:35

See none, that action shall be taken.

2:11:38

From the law department, madam clerk.

2:11:40

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway, an introduction of an ordinance.

2:11:44

Line item 18.4.

2:11:46

Uh member Callaway.

2:11:47

Um Mr.

2:11:48

Chair, I move that the ordinance be read twice by title, ordered printed and laid on the table.

2:11:54

There's a motion to approve line item 18.4.

2:11:57

Any objections?

2:11:59

See none, that action shall be taken.

2:12:04

From the law department, madam clerk.

2:12:06

Councilmember Whitfield Callaway, a resolution set in a public hearing.

2:12:09

Line item 18.5.

2:12:12

Uh line item 18.5, member Callaway.

2:12:14

Thank you, Mr.

2:12:15

Chair.

2:12:15

Motion to approve.

2:12:16

That's a motion to approve line item 18.5, colleagues.

2:12:20

Any objections?

2:12:22

See none, then action shall be taken.

2:12:26

Okay, Mr.

2:12:26

Chair.

2:12:27

Yes, ma'am.

2:12:27

On the same line item date to be determined.

2:12:29

Yes, and the date is to be determined for the record.

2:12:33

With line item 18.5.

2:12:34

Thank you, Member Callaway.

2:12:35

From the human resources classification and compensation, Madam Clerk.

2:12:39

Council member Whitfield Callaway or resolution, line item 18.6.

2:12:45

Motion to approve.

2:12:46

That's a motion to approve line item 18.6.

2:12:48

Any objections?

2:12:50

Discussion.

2:12:51

With discussion, member of Santiago Romero.

2:12:54

Thank you, Mr.

2:12:55

Chair.

2:12:55

Just wondering why the need for the pay bump, the maximum is already at 149.

2:13:03

Wondering if we're doing this to be more competitive.

2:13:06

Um it's a question to you, HR.

2:13:08

I was not able to listen in.

2:13:09

Um, I don't believe actually this question was asked um when this was being discussed.

2:13:14

Okay, good morning, Mr.

2:13:15

Washington.

2:13:16

You have anyone available who can provide a response to Member Santiago Romero on this particular item.

2:13:21

Yes, no, good afternoon through the chair.

2:13:23

We do have Katrina Pattio online.

2:13:26

All right, we will pull her over.

2:13:35

We also have Brenda Van Tool.

2:13:40

An individual as well.

2:14:12

Both of these, both of the individuals seem to have declined.

2:14:16

Um decline the uh opportunity to speak.

2:14:18

We're gonna allow them again a chance to be promoted.

2:14:31

Yes, sir.

2:14:32

Can you bring these back to the end?

2:14:34

I will reach out to the ball.

2:14:35

All right, I think someone's popping up right now, Mr.

2:14:38

Washington.

2:14:40

Mr.

2:14:40

President.

2:14:41

Uh member Santiago Romero.

2:14:46

Um never mind.

2:14:48

I think I just answered my own question.

2:14:50

I will still wait for HR for my other question.

2:14:56

And they're cued up.

2:15:00

I see Miss Brenda Van Tole with your cameras off and your mics off.

2:15:03

You can switch both of those on, please.

2:15:05

That'd be helpful.

2:15:06

Thank you so much for joining us.

2:15:08

Um please introduce yourself for the record.

2:15:10

Hello, my name is Brenda Van Tool, and I am the class comp analyst for the police department.

2:15:17

Thank you for being here.

2:15:18

Member Santiago Romero.

2:15:19

Thank you.

2:15:20

Uh good afternoon, Brenda.

2:15:21

Thank you for joining us.

2:15:22

Just wondering for 18.6.

2:15:24

This is regarding an amendment to compensation for the director of police personnel.

2:15:32

Um, just wondering, are we doing this to be more competitive compared to others in this position?

2:15:37

Are we having a hard time maintaining?

2:15:39

Okay, understood.

2:15:40

Yes, the salary range was below the market level, and also to be um more in competitive to be more competitive with outside markets, but also um internal equity with other positions that are at that level.

2:15:58

Understood through the chair.

2:16:00

Thank you.

2:16:00

Would this person also be responsible?

2:16:02

So it's director of police personnel.

2:16:05

Are they responsible for hiring or is that through HR?

2:16:09

Um, I guess what is their responsibility?

2:16:13

Their responsibility is for hiring sworn and civilian police personnel.

2:16:20

And also other um uh police personnel matters.

2:16:26

Thank you.

2:16:26

Understood.

2:16:27

And then this is an appointed position, correct?

2:16:30

Yes.

2:16:30

Okay.

2:16:31

I asked these questions because if we're gonna hire the the salary to the person hiring officers, we need to make sure that the officers are protecting Detroiters, um, that we are not working with federal agents that we're that we're working in and that we are following our own policies.

2:16:44

So I will support this.

2:16:46

I will work closely with our uh chief um to make sure that we are working together uh to hold our officers accountable, and I believe that comes from the top.

2:16:55

Uh so thank you for the information.

2:16:57

This is very helpful.

2:16:58

Um, and I will move forward with the rest of the questions that I have for our chief.

2:17:01

Thank you, Mr.

2:17:02

President.

2:17:03

Thank you.

2:17:03

All right, college, there's a motion to approve line item 18.6.

2:17:07

Any objections?

2:17:09

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

2:17:14

Clerk under resolutions.

2:17:16

Councilmember McCampbell, a resolution line item 18.7.

2:17:21

Thank you so much.

2:17:22

Uh we have line item 18.7 as amended, which would add uh council member Johnson as well as pro Tim Young.

2:17:32

Um member McCampbell, line item 18.7 is amended.

2:17:36

Thank you, Mr.

2:17:36

President.

2:17:37

Um I want to uh give thanks to Pro Tim Young and Member Johnson for joining me on this very important disability task force and uh motion to approve 18.7.

2:17:49

Thank you.

2:17:49

There's a motion to approve line item 18.7.

2:17:51

Any objections?

2:17:53

See none, then action shall be taken.

2:17:56

Ms.

2:17:56

Vantol, thank you so much.

2:17:58

We appreciate you.

2:18:02

Mr.

2:18:02

President Clerk will so note the amendment to this resolution.

2:18:05

Thank you so much, madam clerk.

2:18:08

Under resolution, Councilmember Johnson, a resolution line item 18.8.

2:18:13

Uh member Johnson.

2:18:15

Thank you, Mr.

2:18:15

Chair.

2:18:16

Move for approval on line item 18.8.

2:18:18

This is to reappoint Richie Harrison to the City Planning Commission for the District 4 seat for the term beginning immediately and ending February 14th, 2029.

2:18:30

All right, there is a motion to approve line item 18.8.

2:18:35

Any objections, colleagues.

2:18:38

See none, that action shall be taken.

2:18:40

Mr.

2:18:41

Chair, I'd like to request a waiver for line item 18.8.

2:18:44

Thank you.

2:18:44

There's a request for a waiver on line item 18.8, colleagues.

2:18:48

Any objections to a waiver?

2:18:50

Hearing none, a waiver shall be attached.

2:18:54

Madam Clerk under resolutions.

2:18:56

Council President Pro Tim Young, a resolution.

2:18:59

Line item 18.9.

2:19:01

Thank you so much.

2:19:02

Uh Pro Tim Young.

2:19:03

Thank you, uh, Mr.

2:19:04

President.

2:19:05

Uh motion to postpone line 18.9.

2:19:08

There's a motion to postpone the line item 18.9 for one week.

2:19:13

Any objections?

2:19:15

See none, that action shall be taken.

2:19:18

For the planning and economic development standing committee under unfinished business.

2:19:23

Councilmember Johnson and ordinance noted and roll call line item 19.1.

2:19:29

So much.

2:19:30

Member Johnson.

2:19:31

Thank you, Mr.

2:19:31

Chair.

2:19:32

I move to take from the table an ordinance to amend chapter 50 of the 2019 Detroit City Code.

2:19:38

Zoning by amending Article 17, zoning district maps, section 50-17-9, district map number eight to revise the zoning classifications for certain properties generally bound by Melbourne Street to the north, Oakland Avenue to the east, Mount Vernon Street to the south, and Kingsley Street to the west, commonly known as 656 and 662, Melbourne Street from the existing R3 Low Density Residential District zoning classification to the B4 General Business District zoning classification laid on the table February 3rd, 2026.

2:20:15

Thank you so much.

2:20:15

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

2:20:18

Member Johnson.

2:20:19

I move the ordinance be placed on the order of third reading and considered read.

2:20:25

Hearing no objections, that action shall be taken.

2:20:28

Member Johnson.

2:20:29

I move the ordinance be passed as submitted.

2:20:31

There being a roll call required.

2:20:33

Will the Madam Clerk will you please call the roll?

2:20:36

Councilmember McCampbell?

2:20:37

Yes.

2:20:38

Councilmember Miller.

2:20:40

Councilmember Santiago Romero.

2:20:42

Yes.

2:20:43

Councilmember Waters.

2:20:44

Yes.

2:20:45

Councilmember Whitfield Calloway.

2:20:48

Council President Pro Tim Young.

2:20:50

Yes.

2:20:51

Council President Tate.

2:20:53

Yes.

2:20:54

Councilmember Vincent.

2:20:55

Yes.

2:20:56

Councilmember Johnson.

2:20:57

Yes.

2:20:58

Nine gays.

2:20:58

That motion passes, Mr.

2:20:59

President.

2:21:02

Ordinance is approved.

2:21:03

Member Johnson.

2:21:04

I move the title to the ordinance be confirmed.

2:21:07

Hearing no objections, that action will be taken.

2:21:11

From the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Madam Clerk.

2:21:16

Council Member Johnson, a resolution pending additional documentation.

2:21:20

Line item 19.2.

2:21:23

Thank you, Member Johnson.

2:21:25

Thank you, Mr.

2:21:26

Chair.

2:21:26

There is additional information that is uh coming to this body for line item 19.2.

2:21:33

With that, I move to postpone the vote for one week.

2:21:37

There's a motion to postpone the vote for one week for line item 19.2.

2:21:42

Colleagues, any objection?

2:21:45

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

2:21:48

From the Detroit Brownfield Redevelopment Authority, Madam Clerk.

2:21:52

Councilmember Johnson, two resolutions, line items 19.3 and 19.4.

2:21:57

Madam Member Johnson.

2:21:59

Thank you, Mr.

2:22:00

Chair.

2:22:00

Move for approval.

2:22:01

That's a motion to approve line items 19.3 and 19.4.

2:22:06

Any objections?

2:22:07

Discussion.

2:22:08

With discussion, member Callaway.

2:22:10

Thank you.

2:22:10

Um, is there anyone on who can just um answer a couple questions regarding line item um 19.3 and 19.4?

2:22:22

Just have like one or two questions.

2:22:24

All right, Mr.

2:22:25

Washington, we're looking for someone to join us to provide information on 19.3 and 19.4, sir.

2:22:33

We have Brian Bosberg online.

2:22:36

We will promote Mr.

2:22:38

Vossburg.

2:22:40

Can we see yourself on the screen?

2:22:42

Please introduce yourself for the record.

2:22:44

Morning, Brian Bosberg, Senior Director of Brownfield Redevelopment at the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation and the Detroit Brownfield Redevelopment Authority.

2:22:52

You member Callaway.

2:22:54

Thank you.

2:22:54

Thank you so much, Mr.

2:22:55

Chair.

2:22:56

Um, did the city lose out on other opportunities for these properties, knowing that these developers failed to um to proceed or one eighth were unable to proceed with the projects for these um brownfields.

2:23:12

Um the chair, um, for these brownfield um projects, one is a credit, uh, which is a program that uh doesn't exist anymore.

2:23:21

The other is a TIFF program.

2:23:24

Um the both of these were city uh land involved a significant either all or mostly city land uh in these so there was no tax incentive paid uh for this development uh both the tax incentives were you know performance based the developer had to complete the project in order to receive the incentive uh so no incentive was provided um and then as far as the city land uh though the land was not transacted or transferred uh to those uh developers the prop the projects uh didn't move forward um to get to that place thank you thank you mr.

2:24:06

Chair thank you sir thank you Alex there's a motion uh for approval for line item 19.4 any objections hearing none that action shall be taken thank you thank you um clerk um i'm sorry uh line items 19.3 and 19.4 my apologies um any objections hearing none that action shall be taken uh madam clerk from the housing and revitalization department council member johnson to resolutions line items 19.5 and 19.6 member johnson thank you mr.

2:24:46

chair move for approval as a motion to approve line 19.5 and 19.6 colleagues any objections hearing none that action shall be taken mr.

2:25:01

As a request for a waiver, colleagues on line item 19.6.

2:25:05

Any objections?

2:25:07

Hearing none, a waiver should be attached.

2:25:10

From the planning and development department, madam clerk.

2:25:13

Councilmember Johnson, a resolution, line item 19.7.

2:25:18

All right.

2:25:19

Member Johnson.

2:25:20

Thank you, Mr.

2:25:20

Chair.

2:25:21

Move for approval.

2:25:22

This is the property sale at 8605 West Verner.

2:25:26

There's a motion for approval on line item 19.7.

2:25:29

Any objections.

2:25:31

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

2:25:34

Request a waiver, Mr.

2:25:36

President.

2:25:36

It's a request for a waiver on line item 19.7.

2:25:38

Colleagues, any objections.

2:25:41

Hearing none, the waiver should be a waiver shall be attached.

2:25:44

Thank you.

2:25:45

Thank you.

2:25:46

For the public health and safety standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

2:25:51

Council Member Santiago Romero, a resolution.

2:25:55

Item 20.1 contract number 6007624.

2:25:59

100% city funding to provide window cleaning services for Jason Hargrove and Rosa Parks Transit Centers.

2:26:07

Contractor Allied Building Service Company of Detroit.

2:26:10

Total contract amount, 233,000.

2:26:13

That's for construction and demolition.

2:26:15

Councilmember Santiago Romero, a resolution.

2:26:18

Member Santiago Romero, line items 20.1.

2:26:22

Motion to approve.

2:26:23

There's a motion to approve line item 20.1 colleagues.

2:26:26

Any objections?

2:26:27

Directly 20.1.

2:26:30

Any further objections.

2:26:33

You can please note that we have one objection from member McCampbell.

2:26:36

Clerk will so note, Mr.

2:26:38

President.

2:26:38

Thank you so much.

2:26:40

Hearing no further objections, that action shall be taken.

2:26:47

From the Department of Public Works, City Engineering Division.

2:26:51

Council Member Santiago Romero, a resolution, line item 20.2.

2:26:56

Member Santiago Romero.

2:26:59

Motion to approve this petition for an easement.

2:27:03

That's a motion to approve line item 20.2, colleagues.

2:27:07

Any objections?

2:27:08

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

2:27:12

Under resolution, Madam Clerk.

2:27:14

Council Member Whitfield Callaway, joined by Council President Pro Tim Young.

2:27:19

A resolution, line item 20.3.

2:27:22

You uh member Callaway.

2:27:24

Thank you so much.

2:27:25

Um, Mr.

2:27:26

Chair.

2:27:27

This was a resolution uh recognizing um February as Black History Month, but um, I don't know what the delay was.

2:27:34

Um just it's just getting it to us now.

2:27:37

Um, but it's always a good month.

2:27:40

Um 12 months out of a year to celebrate Black History Month.

2:27:44

So I want to thank my colleague um pro Tim Young II for joining me on this resolution.

2:27:50

But um motion to approve.

2:27:52

Thank you.

2:27:53

There's a motion to approve line item 20.3, colleagues.

2:27:58

Any objections?

2:27:59

Discussion with further oh, I'm sorry, with discussion.

2:28:02

Member join as well.

2:28:03

Um clerk, member Benson indicate he would like to join as well.

2:28:08

Clerk will so note, Mr.

2:28:09

President.

2:28:10

Thank you.

2:28:11

Colleagues, any objections?

2:28:14

See none, line item 20.3 shall be approved.

2:28:20

We will now move to the new business portion of the agenda from the mayor's office.

2:28:24

Madam Clerk.

2:28:26

Council President Pro Tim Young, three resolutions, line items 21.1 through 21.3.

2:28:36

Thank you, Mr.

2:28:37

President.

2:28:38

I move to approve line items 21.1 through 21.3.

2:28:44

There's a motion to approve line items 21.1 through 21.3.

2:28:49

Colleagues, any objections.

2:28:52

None, the action shall be taken.

2:28:57

From the Office of Contracting Tract Office of Contracting and Procurement, Matt Clerk.

2:29:04

Council Member Santiago Romero, 13 resolutions, line items 21.4 through 21.16, noting that nine items 21.5 through 21.14 are all for health.

2:29:17

Contract number 6007671, 100% city funding to provide replacement turn out gear, contract or fire acquisition company LLC, doing business as Phoenix Safety Outfitters, total contract amount, 4,300,000.

2:29:33

That's for fire.

2:29:34

Contract number 6005088-83.

2:29:38

100% grant funding.

2:29:40

Amendment three to provide a program administrator for coordinating managing medical and supportive services for low-income under and uninsured persons living with HIV in the Detroit eligible metropolitan area.

2:30:01

Total contract amount 4,188, $842.24.

2:30:08

Contract number 6007682, 100% grant funding.

2:30:14

To provide program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and supportive services for persons living with HIV in the Detroit Eligible Metropolitan Area.

2:30:28

Human Service Agency Total Contract Amount 2,250, 863.

2:30:36

Contract number 6007683, 100% grant funding.

2:30:41

WSU Horizons to provide program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and support services for persons living with HIV.

2:30:51

Contractor, Wayne State University, total contract amount 1, 129,046 and 92 cents.

2:30:59

Contract number 6007684, 100% grant funding.

2:31:04

MSU Cy9 Grace to provide program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and support services for persons living with HIV.

2:31:13

Contractor, Wayne State University, total contract amount, $1,101, $295.98.

2:31:22

Line item 21.9.

2:31:24

Contract number 6007685, 100% grant funding to provide program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and support services for persons living with HIV.

2:31:36

Contractor, Wayne State University, total contract amount, $2,500, $225 and 95 cents.

2:31:45

Contract number 6007693, 100% grant funding.

2:31:50

To provide program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and support services for persons living with HIV contractor, Oakland Integrated Health Care Network.

2:32:01

Total contract amount 1,422,909 and 79 cents.

2:32:07

Contract number 6007696, 100% grant funding to provide service for ending the HIV epidemic, a plan for America, Ryan White HIV AIDS program, contractor health emergency lifeline programs, total contract amount $463,635.

2:32:29

Contract number 6007697, 100% grant funding to provide service for ending the HIV epidemic, a plan for America, Ryan White HIV AIDS program, contractor Henry for Health System, total contract amount, $602, $725.50.

2:32:49

Contract number 6007699, 100% grant funding to provide service for ending the HIV epidemic of plan for America, Ryan White HIV AIDS program, contractor, Oakland Livingston Human Service Agency, total contract amount, 225, 635.70 cent number 600701, 100% grant funding.

2:33:17

WSU Cyanine Grace to provide service for ending the HIV epidemic, a plan for America, Ryan White HIVA's program, contract at Wayne State University, total contract amount, 509,998 dollars and 50 cents.

2:33:34

Line item 21.15 contract number 6007598, 100% city funding to provide small AKS parts cleaning machine lease and services, contract, safety clean systems incorporated, total contract amount 55,000.

2:33:53

That's for transportation, contract number 6007691, 100% city funding to provide installation of bus shelters and benches, contractor Nora contracting LLC, total contract amount 557, 100.

2:34:12

That's for transportation, council member Santiago Romero, 13 resolutions.

2:34:18

Thank you so much.

2:34:19

Member Santiago Romero line items 21.4 through 21.16.

2:34:25

Thank you, Mr.

2:34:26

President.

2:34:26

Motion to approve.

2:34:27

There's a motion for approval, colleagues.

2:34:29

Any objection?

2:34:30

Discussion with discussion.

2:34:32

Start with Member Benson, then member Cal.

2:34:34

All right, thank you.

2:34:35

Mr.

2:34:35

A question to the Health Department.

2:34:37

How many people do we have in Detroit currently living with HIV?

2:34:42

AIDS.

2:34:46

Washington.

2:34:47

See if we have someone available to respond to Member Benson's question.

2:34:53

Yes, we're going to promote Deputy Director.

2:34:58

We'll promote her.

2:35:00

We'll promote her at this time.

2:35:13

Good afternoon.

2:35:14

Please introduce yourself for the record.

2:35:16

Good afternoon to the honorable body.

2:35:18

My name is Christina Floyd, and I'm the deputy director of public health for the Detroit Health Department.

2:35:23

Thank you.

2:35:28

Thank you, Mr.

2:35:29

Chair and Ms.

2:35:30

Floyd, thank you for being here today.

2:35:32

Just uh we've been doing these grants for years since I've been here.

2:35:36

And I was wondering, and of course I never asked is how many people in the city of Detroit are living with HIVAIDS.

2:35:45

Through the chair to Councilmember Benson, as of December 20, 2024, our uh current population for Detroit residents that are living with HIV is 5,718.

2:35:57

Okay, and then are we moving the needle at all with the ability to reduce improve quality of life?

2:36:05

Yes, through the chair, uh as well as in a communication that has been uh sent to uh council back in January.

2:36:12

We have been able to uh through the many uh contracts that you have currently before you uh been able to decrease viral load suppression rate, uh actually increase the viral level suppression rate of our clients uh throughout the metropolitan area uh area that we serve by uh close to 88 percent.

2:36:32

So that means we are able to decrease transmission uh based off the fact that the care that people are providing, staying in care and having the necessary resources they need to be able to live healthy lives with HIV.

2:36:46

Okay, and so that term reducing viral transmission rate that was reducing the number of people with is that what that means?

2:36:54

I'm not a professional.

2:36:56

No problem.

2:36:57

What that means is for those individuals who are living with HIV, they have a suppressed viral low where they're not able to uh pass it on to another individual versus if their uh viral low was much higher at the threshold to be able to pass it along.

2:37:14

So, what the goal of all of these programs are to do is to be able to uh have our uh residents who are living with HIV to be in that threshold of uh non-detectable, as they say, um U equals U, so undetectable, un transmittable, and so that is uh our goal.

2:37:35

Uh we know we obviously can't eradicate it, but we can most certainly uh decrease the transmission rate.

2:37:42

So that's what our goal is.

2:37:44

Okay, if we were to lose this type of support, we see a definite increase or negative trend in that area.

2:37:53

Uh through the chair to council member Benson, yes, we would definitely see a negative impact because it's not just uh the care medical care that's provided, all the social services uh and other wraparound services are provided to our um clients living with HIV.

2:38:09

Okay, thank you.

2:38:10

Thank you, McCalloway.

2:38:11

Yep, thank you, Mr.

2:38:12

Chair.

2:38:13

Um, I also have questions about um 21.4 and 21.16.

2:38:18

But with this particular um line item, what's the community engagement and is there an increase among age group 55 plus?

2:38:28

I'm hearing that seniors are now um contracting HIV at an alarming rate.

2:38:35

That's what I've been reading.

2:38:37

So um is that true according to what you um understand the numbers to be, and what is our our um outreach to the community through the chair.

2:38:48

Uh through the chair to council member water, what we are seeing are uh several rates uh STI infections amongst our senior population overhaul, not just HIV, but also um Garrett committee as if list and so on.

2:39:04

And so uh what we have are uh community health educators that uh target populations such as our youth uh as well as um uh our senior population uh through Indy uh HIV epidemic, uh the EHE, uh, but also uh other various programs.

2:39:24

And so uh we partner with other services that um uh do senior services uh uh to provide that type of information.

2:39:33

Uh but like I said, we also have our health educators uh that do reach out.

2:39:37

Uh, the other part of that as well is we have our community health workers within the uh health department to be able to provide those type of prevention information to seniors as well.

2:39:46

And so we look to uh expand upon that as we are uh being lack step in align with uh the new administration with Mary She uh Madam Mary Sheffield's uh initiative to be uh health and all policy, but also be able to uh expand senior services.

2:40:00

uh uh to provide that type of information uh but like i said we also have our health educators uh that do reach out uh another part of that as well is we have our community health workers within the uh health department to be able to provide those type of prevention information to seniors as well and so we look to uh expand upon that as we are uh being lacks step in a line with uh the new administration with mary sha uh madam mary sheffield's uh initiative to be uh health in all policy but also be able to uh expand senior services thank you um miss floyd through the chair um do you send out um health educators to senior buildings that is one of the strategies that we are going to be using uh in this new and upcoming um both for your but even more so now to be able to have uh dedicated individuals to be uh within senior facilities they'll rotate because we don't we only have seven uh and so uh across the entire city uh but what we will make sure is to have uh rotating schedules uh where CHWs will be accessible uh throughout senior centers thank you thank you Ms.

2:40:47

Floyd thank you Mr.

2:40:48

Chair thank you Ms.

2:40:49

Floyd I I heard when you uh indicated the response I know member Benson had asked about specifically uh Detroit those who have um HIVAIDS uh in the city of Detroit and you responded uh with your answer and I maybe paraphrasing about the viral uh suppression the increased viral suppression within the metropolitan Detroit area so trying to identify maybe I heard that wrong um are we talking about Detroit or Metropolitan Detroit if we're talking metropolitan Detroit explain to us about the uh outreach beyond the um borders of our municipality who's received this uh these grants yes uh through the chair uh to the chair uh currently the population that we serve in the city of Detroit is a 5,718 people are living with HIV to the outside uh counties that we serve plus the city of Detroit that's 11,858 residents that are living with HIV and that's who we serve as well.

2:41:53

And so viral low suppression is across the board uh for our residents in both Detroit as well as the metropolitan area and our outreach is uh really the same um as that we provide uh the services to uh those who are both in the city of Detroit as well as uh the uh areas that we have uh access to within uh the Ryanway uh metropolitan area so explain again maybe and I apologize for not being wise enough to know this at this point talk to us about that expansion I mean again the city of Detroit going and I understand we start talking about STIs they don't have boundaries by any means whatsoever because people are transient and you know um a border is imaginary if you will or legislatively uh created or by voters but uh the city of Detroit is the entity that sought these particular grants um are any other municipalities that we work with also seeking receiving obtaining utilizing these grants uh even within the city of Detroit to ensure that it's not just the heavy lift on your department our city um and uh because that's what it sounds like at this point again reducing the viral uh or suppressing the viral uh um uh increasing the the viral suppression is important but also um making sure that it's not just uh heavy lift on the city's part but we're all in on this together uh yes to the chair and so uh it's not so much that the uh city of Detroit is carrying the burden however unfortunately we do carry the burden of most of the people living uh in our area uh who are living with HIV and so that's why it seems like we we're carrying most of those because we do have the highest population however uh the surrounding counties that we work with especially Wayne uh does have programs uh and clinical services that uh do provide outreach uh testing uh and treatment for uh HIV and STIs as well and so obviously you know how large of County Wayne is and so to that point we definitely partner uh and again just to reiterate the inclusive uh nature of our work is through Lapier Macomb Monroe Oakland St.

2:44:17

Clair uh Wayne and again and the city of Detroit and so we most certainly partner with our um our counties to make sure that uh we are uh all locked step but they they have the resources that they need as well but again that's why it seems that we are um carrying the heavy burden but unfortunately is because we do have a higher population that are living with HIV than most of those surrounding counties.

2:44:42

Thank you so much I think I saw a hand uh member McCampb thank you thank you Mr.

2:45:00

Um, I appreciate the conversation and question, especially for my colleague um uh member uh withfield callway on because we know that SDI and HIV um does not have it go is it transcends age and gender, um sexual orientation as well.

2:45:09

Uh so I think having these conversations at the table also helps to decrease the stigma so folks can actually get the test and the treatment that they need um to have healthy lives and to prevent transmission.

2:45:21

I I had a question for you on do these programs also go into the preventive side as well and and yes, Deputy Director, that's for you, sorry.

2:45:33

Uh through the chair uh to council member um Campbell, yes.

2:45:37

Uh apart uh our both our Ryan White Part A as well as ending the HIV epidemic through uh ending the HIV epidemic uh portion of that is a huge section of prevention to have education.

2:45:50

We have the um condom distribution, uh we have the um the outreach.

2:45:56

And so it is uh definitely twofold with making sure that testing is a part of prevention, uh but also having those prevention methods uh strategies in place as well.

2:46:06

And again, we partner, for instance, on um on an annual basis on what's called our pull-up program, which we would certainly love for you all to attend.

2:46:15

We have one, uh we actually have two, uh, and we do this in the Palmer Park area, uh and um right next to the fountain, actually, uh twice a year, uh, one in the fall and one in the spring.

2:46:27

And so that brings in mobile units uh across uh the city of Detroit as well as our surrounding partners uh to provide testing, education information, and it's not just for HIV, but also again for uh you know those who may need insurance, housing, domestic violence services, social services, and so on.

2:46:46

And so those are all the prevention strategies that we uh have employed through our um our HIV STI program uh to to continue to provide that education wraparound services uh to all we decrease uh the transmission of HIV within our cities.

2:47:03

Thank you.

2:47:03

And I would just add uh also a plus one on what member with Callaway brought up on the outreach to the senior buildings and and um assisted livings and such, but so I know we will have a budget conversations.

2:47:15

I it sounds like we may need more uh community health advocates uh out there.

2:47:20

So happy to have that conversation as well.

2:47:22

Uh but thank you, Deputy Director.

2:47:24

Thank you, Mr.

2:47:25

Chair.

2:47:26

Thank you.

2:47:28

Uh member waters.

2:47:29

Thank you, thank you, Mr.

2:47:30

President.

2:47:31

I just have a question.

2:47:32

If are you able to to uh provide a um say an itemized uh list of the costs?

2:47:41

I want to better understand what's driving that the costs up.

2:47:46

They continue to get higher and higher, right?

2:47:51

Uh through the chair to member waters, I I would like clarification on what you're you're requesting as far as what pricing or costs are going up.

2:48:03

You would like what clarification on what you're requesting as far as costs going up.

2:48:10

Well, well, yeah, I know that that medication, of course, is part of the high cost.

2:48:18

And then what else?

2:48:20

Other types of treatments.

2:48:22

Uh I mean, what's what's a part of all of the costs?

2:48:26

That's all I'm um I'm asking.

2:48:28

If you if you're paying out so much per patient, um then what are the costs associated with that?

2:48:42

Through the chair to member waters, uh, we can also get that cost analysis.

2:48:47

Um, I do not have that at the moment, but that's certainly something that we could uh figure out and be able to provide to uh council member waters through the chair.

2:48:58

Okay.

2:48:59

Thank you.

2:49:00

Thank you.

2:49:01

Member uh proton young.

2:49:03

Thank you, Ms.

2:49:04

President.

2:49:05

Um good to see you, Miss Floyd.

2:49:08

Always a pleasure.

2:49:09

Listen, I want to ask you, um, what are we doing about the issues of transmission or spreading?

2:49:17

Um, I I don't I don't mean for you to be the making whoopee police here, but what are we doing in terms of promoting safer sex?

2:49:25

What are we doing in terms of are we handing out more condoms?

2:49:28

Are we talking about the risks?

2:49:31

Are we putting out ads on uh tender or grinder or whatever the case may be?

2:49:35

They say a lot of reasons why this going up is because of these dating apps that people are having access to.

2:49:40

I mean, I mean, again, I I'm not trying to regulate people doing the horizontal hula here, but I would like to know what exactly we're doing to prevent this type of stuff from happening.

2:49:52

Are we talking about and let me say this again?

2:49:55

As long as it's legal and consensual, the government should not be involved, in my opinion.

2:50:00

Legal, let me say again legal and consensual.

2:50:01

Let me say it again, legal and consensual.

2:50:05

But are we talking about safe for sex or we talking about abstinence at all as an overall package, not mandated, but letting people know about that information?

2:50:14

How does that work exactly?

2:50:17

Uh through the chair to Pro Tum Young.

2:50:20

So uh all of the above, I would say our HIV program is really a small, not a small, but it it seems like it's a heavy portion of the prevention work that we do.

2:50:29

But we also have Title 10 funding, which is reproductive health, which supports the work of making sure that um healthy uh reproductive health uh practices are being utilized throughout the city of Detroit, and that's starting with our young population, 13 and over.

2:50:46

We have a um program through our HIV SCI program that provides free mailed condoms uh and loops through the uh mail that you can go free online uh through our website, get the information, have the condoms and so on distributed uh to your um house confidentially.

2:51:11

Uh we also have uh around the community distribution sites of condoms and things for uh uh primarily our service providers who also provide that.

2:51:23

We and again, uh when I say all of the above, we do provide education.

2:51:28

We also have uh communication uh and ad campaigns as well.

2:51:33

We definitely uh know that that is uh a really great strategy to go uh with Tinder and Grinder and have those conversations uh through those uh various networks uh to be able to reach populations that uh normally are sometimes um lost, but we also uh like I said, use uh some unconventional um practices as well.

2:51:55

And so we have pharmacies that we have partner with to provide not just with uh specialty medication and treatment, but they also are able to provide education as well.

2:52:06

And so it uh it's looking at uh prevention outside of the box of the norm of what we normally do.

2:52:13

And so uh that's how we're able to continue to spread that information.

2:52:17

Uh and like I said, it doesn't just fall on the HIV SCI program.

2:52:21

We have other programs that can support uh the information uh dissemination as well.

2:52:26

And so we have a strong comms presence as well uh for our marketing information as well.

2:52:33

No, Alex, I I think that I think that's really good.

2:52:35

I would also say that we also I know that you have like fans and things that nature where you also go out in the community and talk about this as well and community in community groups, and I appreciate that because I know this can sometimes be very uncomfortable talking about people in certain situations, but we need to have those conversations.

2:52:49

And I also want to know do you have ads on city television as well?

2:52:53

I remember when we were talking about legalization of marijuana, like every other ad was the guy on the motorcycle talking about safely doing it, and that's what's up, and this is how you do it, and you can't have this, don't grow it here.

2:53:06

Like every other commercial.

2:53:08

And so I just want to know do we have that same type of commercial that we show this at all on city television?

2:53:14

Just so people are aware and understand so we can take away from the stigma.

2:53:17

And also, do we also encourage uh prep and all in other things for treatment as well for HIV?

2:53:23

Can we just kind of talk about that a little bit?

2:53:25

And then that's all my questions, Mr.

2:53:27

President.

2:53:29

Definitely through the chair to uh Pro Tum Young, we most certainly do prep and PEP uh and a good conversation uh to have, and I would have to check to see if we do have commercials on city television, because I'm not aware of that.

2:53:43

I will certainly find out uh to see if we do, and if we don't figure out a way to be able to do so.

2:53:47

Uh, but we most certainly uh do support uh the services of prep and pep through our uh service providers and again, like I said, through also uh our pharmacies and things that uh are able to be uh little unconventional.

2:54:01

So thank you.

2:54:03

Okay, thank you.

2:54:05

Um member Callaway.

2:54:06

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

2:54:07

Chair.

2:54:07

Um, one last question from me, um, Ms.

2:54:09

Floyd.

2:54:10

Do you have um numbers like per um zip code?

2:54:16

So um we can work better with your office to um disseminate information or maybe to have as some of our community meetings in a um discrete manner, condoms being available because I participate in a lot of um senior meetings, 55 plus.

2:54:37

I have 15 senior buildings in district two, and we're in there weekly.

2:54:42

So if you can share um the numbers per zip code, that would help me to work with you better and to work to disseminate information regarding this um this issue with HIV.

2:54:56

Is that possible through the chair to you, Ms.

2:54:58

Floyd?

2:55:00

Uh through the chair to Councilmember Waters.

2:55:02

I would be able to uh work with our HIV dire uh HIV STI director Angel Thompson as well as our Epi team to see what we can uh provide and be able to uh send that through uh councilmember president to council member Callaway Callaway.

2:55:25

So uh we will work on that request and see what we're able to provide.

2:55:29

And um I I would say give this a few weeks on that, but we can most certainly um look at some of the hot spots that we we know to have within the area already.

2:55:41

Um, and and be able to kind of clarify that information.

2:55:45

It's wonderful.

2:55:46

Thank you.

2:55:46

Thank you, Mr.

2:55:46

Chair.

2:55:47

Thank you, Ms.

2:55:47

Floyd.

2:55:48

All right, thank you.

2:55:49

Colleagues, again, there's a motion for approval line item 21.4 through 21.16.

2:55:57

Any objection?

2:55:58

Mr.

2:55:58

Chair, uh Member Callaway.

2:56:00

Yeah, um, um, I still have questions on line item 21.4 and 21 point, I think it was 14 16.

2:56:09

Was it 16?

2:56:11

Okay.

2:56:12

Um, okay, thank you, sir.

2:56:14

You want to discuss those now?

2:56:15

Motion to discuss line item 21.4 for now.

2:56:18

Okay.

2:56:19

Uh Mr.

2:56:20

Washington, we're gonna have uh we can cue someone up or questions for line item 21.4 as well as 21.16, please.

2:56:32

All right, Mr.

2:56:33

Stokes, I see you've joined us.

2:56:35

Uh which line item are you here for?

2:56:37

Uh 21.4, uh Council President Tay.

2:56:41

And thank you, and good afternoon.

2:56:43

Thank you for being here, Member Callaway.

2:56:45

Okay, thank you, Mr.

2:56:46

Chair.

2:56:48

Good afternoon, Mr.

2:56:49

Stokes.

2:56:50

I always um I always ask this question when I see 100% city funding going to um places outside of our state.

2:56:59

Um, and this is a 4.3 million dollar multi-year contract going to Springfield, Ohio.

2:57:05

Absolutely.

2:57:06

And I don't know if you can answer this question because I know this is probably a contracting and procurement question, so I'll probably have to have um Mr.

2:57:12

Chair if we can also have someone on from grants and contract and procurement, so I don't have to repeat my question because I don't know if Mr.

2:57:18

Stokes will be able to answer it.

2:57:20

But this question, Mr.

2:57:22

Chair, would go to Grants, um Terry Daniels, and um Miss Stahl from contracting and procurement or Miss Limit.

2:57:31

Okay, Mr.

2:57:31

Washington, you want to get uh some additional individuals on the line for us as requested through the chair uh for this item we have Eric Cooper online from procurement.

2:57:41

All right, we'll promote good afternoon.

2:57:57

Please introduce yourself for the record, sir.

2:58:00

Good afternoon, Eric Cooper, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

2:58:04

All right, we'll give you a chance to uh respond.

2:58:06

Um, member Callaway.

2:58:07

I want to ask the question again.

2:58:08

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

2:58:09

Chair.

2:58:09

Is there anyone who can join us from grants, like the director, um Terry Daniels?

2:58:18

Mr.

2:58:19

Ms.

2:58:19

Washington Chair, um, yes, I can reach out and see if someone's available to join us.

2:58:26

If we can postpone this item until the end of the agenda unless you want to go ahead and ask the question now.

2:58:31

I would prefer to ask one time and if Ms.

2:58:34

Daniels can join us maybe at the end.

2:58:36

Um, if we can just do both at the same time, if it's the same item.

2:58:41

So you mean I can answer my question now.

2:58:43

Okay, let me call it.

2:58:44

All right, um, thank you, Mr.

2:58:45

Chair.

2:58:45

Good afternoon, Mr.

2:58:46

Stokes and Mr.

2:58:47

Cooper.

2:58:48

Um, my question is as it always is since 2022.

2:58:52

No Michigan company could provide this turnout gear.

2:58:56

This is a 4.3 million dollar contract, sir, um, for three years going to Springfield Township, Ohio.

2:59:04

And it's just a routine question that I always ask.

2:59:10

Yes, I can um answer your question through the chair, council member Tate to uh council member uh Callaway.

2:59:18

Uh the capacity for the amount of gear that you see quoted in that price is for us to make sure that all the firefighters have two sets of protective ensembles.

2:59:27

Uh most of the gear that we have for our 1200 member department is due to expiration.

2:59:33

Uh we did have a uh a process to where there were three vendors that actually put in for this actual contract, uh, but they're they didn't have the capacity to meet uh what we need to do in regards to swapping out all of this expiring gear.

2:59:50

Uh thus far, we've uh taken care of maybe one third of the department, but in order for us to make sure that we don't have any protect any uh protective gear out there for the firefighters expired.

3:00:05

But it was based on capacity.

3:00:07

Uh this is why it was actually probably selected by that uh entity that you see in front of you.

3:00:13

Okay, through the chair to you, uh, Mr.

3:00:16

Stokes.

3:00:17

Um capacity.

3:00:20

That's interesting.

3:00:21

We had three bidders you said, Mr.

3:00:23

Stokes.

3:00:24

Were any of them Michigan or Detroit based of the three?

3:00:30

Mr.

3:00:31

I can answer that.

3:00:32

Um of the three, um, Eric Cooper off was contracting and procurement through the chair.

3:00:36

Of the three, we did have a um contractor that was based out of Michigan.

3:00:41

Uh they were based uh uh northern Michigan, um, but they were smaller um and did not have the capacity uh that we're looking for.

3:00:50

And then we also had um a vendor from Indiana as well.

3:00:54

But um, and it was very uh similar type of situation where uh the volume that we are looking for for this, um, they didn't meet the criteria.

3:01:04

Through the chair to you, Mr.

3:01:06

Cooper, there was not an opportunity to subcontract for the Michigan-based company.

3:01:10

So some of our dollars can stay in the state since they can't stay in Detroit.

3:01:15

Uh, through the chair, we um we did not look at the subcontracting piece of it.

3:01:21

Um, but definitely that is something that we can um as we're going through this process uh put into play as far as um you know this type of a project this size, seeing if subcontracting would be a part of it.

3:01:36

Yep, that would through the chair.

3:01:37

That would be my request.

3:01:39

Um, I don't know if it's possible with this contract if we were to bring it back, but I know how urgent this is.

3:01:44

Um, through the chair to you, Mr.

3:01:45

Stokes, when did the um gear expire or when is it due to expire?

3:01:51

So through the chair, uh council member Callaway, we are currently replacing some of the ensembles right now.

3:01:58

Uh this year, the biggest uh volume of expiration on the gear is taking place through the months of August and September.

3:02:06

Um, and so that's where you're gonna see a lot of this gear uh needing to be swapped out.

3:02:12

Okay, thank you.

3:02:13

And then um through the chair to Ms.

3:02:15

Daniels.

3:02:16

Is there first of all, good afternoon, Miss Daniels?

3:02:20

Through the chair.

3:02:22

Good afternoon.

3:02:23

Um, just a real quick question.

3:02:25

You are great at grants.

3:02:27

Is there any opportunity to have some of this contract?

3:02:31

Maybe in the future, this is a three-year contract, maybe in another three years or so when this one expires to look at grant opportunities.

3:02:38

And um, if so, how often does your department or your team look at grants for this type of a purchase?

3:02:46

Uh through the chair uh to council member Callaway.

3:02:50

Uh the Department of Uh Development and Grants is always on the lookout for any grants that can support uh the fire department, any of our uh public services departments.

3:03:01

And so anytime we we find an opportunity, uh whether it's federal or state funding, um, we will apply for it so that we can offset cost that um the general fund let normally have to pay.

3:03:14

Okay.

3:03:15

All righty.

3:03:15

Thank you all so much.

3:03:16

Thank you, Mr.

3:03:17

Chair.

3:03:18

Thank you.

3:03:21

Member Callaway, you also mentioned you had a question about line item 21.16.

3:03:25

Yes, sir.

3:03:26

Thank you.

3:03:26

Mr.

3:03:27

Washington, if we can uh indicate the individual that's available for that particular question.

3:03:34

There we go.

3:03:35

Through the chair.

3:03:36

Uh Director Kramer has joined us.

3:03:38

All right.

3:03:39

Uh I'm sorry, I can't see because the caption is over the name.

3:03:43

Oh, Ms.

3:03:43

Kramer.

3:03:44

Director Kramer.

3:03:45

Uh Member Callagua.

3:03:46

Thank you, Mr.

3:03:47

Chair.

3:03:47

Good um, good afternoon, Mr.

3:03:48

Kramer.

3:03:52

Good afternoon.

3:03:53

Um, real quick, um, I asked for this list before, and thank you so much, but I haven't received it regarding the list of the locations for the bus shelters and benches.

3:04:03

Yes, uh, through the chair.

3:04:05

So we have um we have kind of our short list of the 110 shelters.

3:04:11

And this is actually a question that came up yesterday at um public health and safety committee.

3:04:16

Uh we uh have not ordered these shelters yet.

3:04:20

And so that that item will come before council that has the exact approved location.

3:04:26

So we're actually not allowed because of the grant rules to order those shelters until we clear these state and federal approvals for the uh for the location of each one.

3:04:35

So that's the process we're going through.

3:04:37

The contract before you today is to have the installation services ready for those 100 shelters.

3:04:43

Uh once we come to the council to have you approve the order for them, and we'll install them.

3:04:49

And this contract also allows us to install um at least 200 bench locations.

3:04:54

And I believe that list uh again, it's uh that's a rolling list as we work through those locations.

3:05:00

We still have to get permits for the benches, even though we don't need the more complicated state and federal approvals.

3:05:05

Um, so as we work through that rolling list, those locations will be updated, but we've supplied kind of our our uh uh best our best guess at what those 200 bench locations would be, and those are the two things that this contract says for you today would pay for.

3:05:21

Okay, thank you.

3:05:22

Um thank you, Mr.

3:05:23

Kramer.

3:05:23

Through the chair, is there a list available that you can provide so we can give our residents some type of hope, something to look forward to, because we have you know some benches that need to be replaced in district two, um, especially one across from Mary Grove College that was demolished because of a car crash in 2022 in the fall, and we've been begging for something to go in that space, and it hasn't happened yet.

3:05:50

And I have a lot of students over there.

3:05:52

It's a high school over there.

3:05:53

You you have emis over there, and all those students, a lot of them catch the bus.

3:05:56

And then I have a large senior population right off of six mile back in the community, and with all the new development coming, um 180 million dollars from the Creske Foundation on Mary Grove's campus, it's going to attract more and more foot track, which we love.

3:06:10

We do need um the shelter and the benches out there.

3:06:15

Absolutely.

3:06:16

Uh, through the chair, we can send you the list uh again.

3:06:18

We have 110 we've listed, realizing that some of them may fall off as we go through that process.

3:06:23

So we can give you that.

3:06:24

Uh we can provide the 110 list so you can see the areas that we're targeting and moving through the process, and then um the bench location list again.

3:06:32

That's the 200 spots.

3:06:34

Generally, those are areas where we've tried where we believe we'd like to put a shelter, but usually the physical uh or right-of-way limitations don't allow us to do that, or if there's areas that um uh have been you know requested uh through council uh meetings, public input, obviously 200 is a much longer list than 100.

3:06:54

So those are the two lists, but yes, I'll make sure uh through the chair that we send you the 110 that we are working on.

3:07:00

It's about a 50-50 split as far as uh these are new shelters in places that either have old or used to have shelters versus about 50 percent of the locations are our spots that uh have never had a shelter before.

3:07:17

Yeah, thank you.

3:07:18

And through the chair too, Mr.

3:07:19

Kramer, thank you so much for expediting the um the replacement of the shelter and bench in front of the post office on Livernoy at eight mile.

3:07:28

Thank you so much.

3:07:29

Thank you, Mr.

3:07:30

Chair.

3:07:30

Thank you.

3:07:31

Colleagues, any further seeing none again.

3:07:34

Motion for approval line item 21.4 through 21.16.

3:07:39

Seeing no objections, that action shall be taken.

3:07:43

Uh Mr.

3:07:44

President, request a waiver for 21.4 and 21.15.

3:07:49

That's a request for waivers on line item 21.4 and 21.15, colleagues.

3:07:54

Any objection?

3:07:57

Seeing none, waiver should be attached.

3:07:59

Also, Mr.

3:08:00

President, request a waiver for 19.1.

3:08:03

This is the Schwitz rezoning.

3:08:06

19.1, ma'am.

3:08:07

Yes, sir.

3:08:08

There's a request for a waiver online item 19.1, colleagues.

3:08:12

Any objections?

3:08:15

Seeing none, the waiver should be attached.

3:08:17

Thank you.

3:08:18

Thank you.

3:08:19

Uh Madam Clerk from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

3:08:25

Council President Pro Tim Young, eight resolutions, noting that line items 27.17 through 21.22 or postponed from last week formal session agenda.

3:08:37

Contract number 6007609, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal.

3:08:44

Contractor number if I can if I can stop you.

3:08:47

I know that there's going to be a request, and then we want you to have to read it all.

3:08:50

Request for postponement to bring all those items back.

3:08:54

I'm going to give it to uh pro tem to do so, but I didn't want you to have to go through all that just for us to postpone it if you don't want to.

3:09:01

Not that we don't have any application, madam clerk, or like hearing your voice.

3:09:05

What's our he said lineups 21.17 through 21.23?

3:09:11

Yes, yes, I did, Mr.

3:09:14

President.

3:09:15

Thank you so much.

3:09:16

Uh Pro Tim Young.

3:09:17

Yes.

3:09:18

And again, we just want to say we thank you, Madam Clerk.

3:09:20

Absolutely.

3:09:21

Uh, Mr.

3:09:21

President, I move to postpone line items 21.17 through 21.23 for one week to allow questions to be answered by members.

3:09:30

Thank you so much.

3:09:31

Colleagues, there's a motion for postponement for line item for one week for line items 21.17 through 21.23.

3:09:40

Any objections?

3:09:42

See none.

3:09:43

That action shall be taken.

3:09:45

Madam Clerk.

3:09:47

Okay, Mr.

3:09:48

President.

3:09:48

So now that brings us to line item 21.24.

3:09:51

Contract number 6007675, 100% city funding to furnish small engine equipment repairs.

3:10:00

Contractor, Wine Guard Supply Company Incorporated.

3:10:02

Total contract amount 75,000.

3:10:05

That's for general services.

3:10:06

Council President Pro Tim Young, a resolution.

3:10:09

Thank you.

3:10:10

Pro Tim Young.

3:10:11

Thank you, Ms.

3:10:12

President.

3:10:13

I moved to approve line 21.24.

3:10:15

There's a motion to approve line item 21.24.

3:10:19

Any objections?

3:10:20

Objection.

3:10:20

Um council member Callaway.

3:10:22

Any further colleagues.

3:10:26

Line item 21.24 has been approved.

3:10:30

Um noting the one objection by member Cal.

3:10:33

Purple note, Mr.

3:10:34

President.

3:10:35

Thank you, ma'am.

3:10:36

Uh, from the office of con the office of the chief financial officer, office of development and grants.

3:10:43

Council member Santiago Romero, a resolution.

3:10:45

Line item 21.25.

3:10:48

Member Santiago Romero.

3:10:50

Thank you, Mr.

3:10:50

President.

3:10:51

Motion to approve.

3:10:52

As a motion to approve line item 21.25.

3:10:56

Any objections?

3:10:58

See none, that action shall be taken.

3:11:00

Request a waiver, Mr.

3:11:01

President.

3:11:02

There's a request for a waiver on line item 21.25.

3:11:05

Any objections?

3:11:07

Seeing none, a waiver should be attached.

3:11:09

Thank you.

3:11:10

Thank you.

3:11:11

Under resolutions, madam clerk.

3:11:13

Mr.

3:11:13

President, if we can remove this item, this item was actually approved previously as line item 20.3.

3:11:21

All right, college.

3:11:21

There are a motion to remove line item 21.26.

3:11:24

Motion remove.

3:11:26

See no objections.

3:11:27

We shall remove line item 21.26.

3:11:32

Action shall be taken.

3:11:34

For the president's report on standing committee referrals and other matters for the budget, finance and audit standing committee, madam clerk.

3:11:41

Two reports from the legislative policy division.

3:11:43

The two reports will be referred to the budget finance and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee.

3:11:49

15 reports from various city departments.

3:11:52

The 15 reports will be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the neighborhood and community services standing committee.

3:11:58

Three reports from the mayor's office.

3:12:00

Three reports will be referred to the neighborhood and community services standing committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

3:12:06

Mr.

3:12:07

President, if we could line item 26.2 should be referred to the public health and safety standard committee.

3:12:13

That is for the department of public works.

3:12:15

So for planning and economic development standing committee, we will have two reports from various city departments.

3:12:35

Seven reports from various city departments, including line item 26.2 that come from planning and economic development standing committee, Mr.

3:12:43

President.

3:12:44

The seven reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee under the consent agenda.

3:12:51

There are no items, Mr.

3:12:52

President.

3:12:52

We will now move to member reports.

3:12:56

We'll start with uh Pro Tim Young.

3:12:58

Negative report.

3:12:59

All right, member waters.

3:13:05

All right, thank you.

3:13:06

Um March 18th is um skilled trades task force, which is going to be at BEW.

3:13:14

Um local 58 on Abbott, uh just off of uh Tromble.

3:13:22

March 18th from 4 to 6 p.m.

3:13:25

Skill Trade Task Force will have its next meeting, and that is co-chaired by members um miller and matt campbell.

3:13:35

So mark your calendars for that.

3:13:38

Then come March 20th is uh women of wisdom.

3:13:45

Um we'll be honoring uh women uh from the both from the community and those that are um in business, and that will take place right here in the auditorium from 12 um until 2.

3:14:02

No, 12 until 3 p.m.

3:14:05

That's on March 20th, 12 to 3, right here in the auditorium.

3:14:11

Thank you.

3:14:12

Thank you, member Benson.

3:14:14

Report thank you, member Callaway.

3:14:18

All right, member Miller.

3:14:20

My only report is that I just want the body to know that I am advocating for the installation of the reinstallation of the Detroit Fire Commission.

3:14:30

Um, I didn't want to speak during the time when member Callaway was speaking regarding that budget concern, but millions and millions of dollars has been spent on the last years without any over sight, and I believe that commission need to be reinstated.

3:14:46

I did speak with Madam President regarding one of my wishes, which does not cost anything during the budget season.

3:14:55

But I believe along with the police commission that we do need a fire commission that is active and having oversight over the funds that we're spending in that department.

3:15:04

Thank you.

3:15:05

Thank you.

3:15:06

Member Santa Guru Romero.

3:15:07

Thank you, Mr.

3:15:08

President.

3:15:09

I want to invite all district six residents to join us for our March monthly D6 meeting.

3:15:14

We are going to be featuring a CPR training and not NARC plan training.

3:15:20

Um it's going to be this Saturday, March 14th from 11 a.m.

3:15:23

to 1 p.m.

3:15:24

We will have lunch.

3:15:25

We will have parking available.

3:15:28

Please register in advance to be able to do so.

3:15:31

As a part of our climate resiliency task force, we keep talking about making sure our residents are prepared in case of an emergency, that we have the tools to do so to support each other.

3:15:41

So this is one way that we're doing so.

3:15:43

And we want to invite residents to join us for our office hours this month.

3:15:48

We will be joined by the Office of the Umbudsman.

3:15:51

We will have her team with us.

3:15:53

We are going to be at Kemini Rec Center on Monday, March 16th from 4 to 6 p.m.

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to stop by.

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Thank you, Mr.

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President.

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Thank you.

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Member Johnson.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Chair.

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Just want to remind District 4 residents that our March monthly community meeting is taking place on Monday, March 16th at 5 30 p.m.

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at the Shepherd, located at 1265 Park View.

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We will have a discussion about know your rights as a renter, um, talking about tenant protections and landlord responsibilities.

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Uh, and that they know how to report a rental property to the city.

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Again, that is Monday, March 16th at 5 30 p.m.

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at the Shepherd.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Chair.

3:16:44

Thank you.

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Member McCampbell.

3:16:46

Thank you, Mr.

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Chair.

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Just want to thank everyone who came out to our series of coffee hours.

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Um, beginning of those, we have four throughout district seven, and then we will continue with our monthly coffee hours beginning in April.

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So just want to share thanks to and gratitude with the folks.

3:17:01

Thank you.

3:17:02

Thank you.

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My only report is that this evening we will have the evening community uh meeting, uh, city council's evening community meeting in district one, uh, as we typically have at Greater Grace Temple this evening.

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Uh, we have a resource fair that started at 6 p.m.

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And the actual evening community meeting uh we begin at 7 p.m.

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Again, city council evening community meeting this evening, uh resource fair at 6 p.m.

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tonight.

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Tonight uh and the actual meeting at 7 p.m.

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located at Greater Grace Temple, 2350 West, 7 Mile Road.

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That will take us to the end of member reports.

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Madam Clerk under adoption without many reference.

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There are no items, Mr.

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President.

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Other communications from the clerk.

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A report on approval proceedings by the mayor.

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Report will be received and placed on file under testimonial resolutions and special privilege.

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Council President Pro Tim Young, a resolution line item 32.1.

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So Tim Young.

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Thank you, Mr.

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President.

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Move to approve line item 32.1.31.1.

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32.13.1, Mr.

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President.

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Okay, mine has 31, 32.1.

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Any objections?

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See none, that action shall be taken.

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I hear no objections, colleagues.

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Uh the with no further business to come before this body.

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This meeting shall stand adjourned.

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Summary of Proceedings

Detroit City Council Regular Session - March 10, 2026

The Detroit City Council held its regular session on Tuesday, March 10, 2026, addressing the ongoing Leland House tenant relocation crisis, approving multiple contracts and resolutions, and hearing extensive public testimony. The meeting included detailed updates from the Corporation Counsel on negotiations with tenants, discussions on HIV/AIDS services, and votes on budget and operational items.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Dozens of residents spoke in person and online, many expressing anger and frustration over the city's handling of the Leland House. Speakers called for immediate action, criticized delays, and demanded accountability for the building owner.
  • Other topics included property tax overassessment (calls for the city assessor to obtain MMAO certification and enforce 2023 reform ordinance), allegations of election fraud (disputed by council members as disinformation), concerns about the Detroit Land Bank Authority’s sales process, public transit reliability (suggestion for bus lateness certificates), opposition to a development at Butzel Family Center, and a resident’s experience with the Detroit Police Department’s handling of a sexual assault investigation.

Discussion Items

  • Leland House Update: Corporation Counsel Conrad Mallet reported the city’s offer: tenants may have a full day, with two helpers, to pack personal belongings; a moving company will complete packing; the city will move belongings to storage or, for 14 households already relocated, to their permanent homes. The city will bear the cost ($850,000) and is willing to extend the sign-up window from 7 to 21 days. Mediation with Judge Popke is set for March 18, 2026. Council members voiced frustration with past inaction, emphasized the need for proactive enforcement, and called for systemic change to prevent future crises. Council Member Miller and others questioned the law department’s stance on liability and demanded accountability for the owner.
  • HIV/AIDS Services: Deputy Director of Public Health Christina Floyd reported 5,718 Detroit residents living with HIV (11,858 in the metropolitan area) and an 88% viral suppression rate. Discussion covered prevention efforts, outreach to seniors, and details on multiple grant-funded contracts totaling over $16 million.
  • Firefighter Turnout Gear Contract: A $4.3 million contract with a Springfield, Ohio company for replacement gear was questioned by Council Member Callaway regarding the lack of Michigan bidders with sufficient capacity. Procurement noted three bidders, including one from northern Michigan that lacked capacity.
  • Bus Shelters and Benches Contract: A $557,100 contract for installation of 110 shelters and 200 benches was discussed; a location list is forthcoming after state and federal approvals.

Key Outcomes

  • Leland House: No formal vote; council directed the law department to continue negotiations and provide an update at the next formal session (March 17, 2026).
  • Approved Contracts and Resolutions:
    • Line items 17.1, 17.2, 18.1–18.3, 18.5–18.8, 19.3–19.8, 20.1 (with one objection from McCampbell), 20.2, 20.3, 21.4–21.16 (with discussion), 21.24 (with one objection from Callaway), 21.25, and 32.1 were approved.
    • Waivers were granted for line items 18.1, 18.2, 19.1, 19.4, 19.6, 19.7, 21.4, 21.15, and 21.25.
  • Postponed Items:
    • Line item 18.9 (appointment of Sabrina McCaskill to Board of Zoning Appeals) postponed one week.
    • Line item 19.2 (pending documentation) postponed one week.
    • Line items 21.17–21.23 (tree trimming contract) postponed one week for member questions.
  • Zoning Change Passed: Rezoning of two Melbourne Street properties from R3 to B4 (19.1) passed 9-0.
  • Appointments and Resolutions: Richie Harrison reappointed to City Planning Commission (18.8); Black History Month resolution approved (20.3) with Benson joining; disability task force resolution (18.7) amended to include Johnson and Young.

Meeting Transcript

The regular session of Tuesday, March 10th, 2026 will come to order. Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll? Sure. Councilmember Scott Benson. Councilmember Letitia Johnson present. Councilmember Denzel and Tom McCampbell. Member McCampbell did indicate he is on his wife. Clerk will so note Mr. President. Councilmember Renata Miller. Here. Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero. Present. Councilmember Mary Waters. Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway. Council President Pro Tim Coleman A on the second. Council President. Thank you. Council President James Tate. Here. Mr. President, you have a call. Thank you so much. And I neglected to note that Member Waters also indicated that she is on her way. My apologies. Our clergy did not arrive, have not arrived yet. But we have our very own David Whitaker. Mr. Whitaker is decided to uh grace us with the opening prayer for this morning. Mr. Whitaker, man of many talents. And it's hard as always with the city. Mr. President, I I agree to do this if I could sing. Normally, when people ask me to come to the mic, it's not to pray as the same. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. There we go. Yes, sir. Our father. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in his give us this day. Our day bread and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debt hours and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thy is the kingdom and the palm water and the glory for that said, a man of many talents. And we will have you back next week. We've got a couple more slots for the remainder of the month. Thank you, Mr. Whitaker. We appreciate you. Thank you.

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