Then of Tuesday, March 17, 2026, will come to order.

Madam Clerk, good morning, will you please call Trump?

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Scott Benson, I.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson.

Councilmember Denzel Anton McCampbell.

Present.

Councilmember Renata Miller.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Council Member Mary Waters.

Present.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Calloway.

Member Witfield Calloway did send a memo indicating that she would be absent.

So her absence is excused.

Council President Pro Tim Colmine the second.

Here.

Mr.

President, you have a quorum.

Thank you so much.

Uh there being a quorum present, Madam Clerk.

The council is now in session.

We would now like to begin the collection of public commenters who would like to speak for the body this morning, both in person and uh online.

If you like to provide public time, if you're in person, please raise your hand if someone from the team will kindly provide you with a public comment card.

If you're online, just raise your hand on Zoom, and we will collect your information that way.

As we quickly approach the end of Ramadan in a few days, it was suggested by Member McCampbell that we invite someone of the Muslim Muslim faith to provide today's invocation.

Ramadan is widely considered as the most sacred and holiest month in Islamic culture.

It is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar observed by Muslims worldwide as a time for fasting, prayer, charity, and reflection.

Muslims uh will celebrate with Aid al-Fatr or the festival of breaking of the fast.

Those of Muslim faith must also recite special prayer during the month of Aid, followed by a community celebration with food and games.

Right in this morning's invocation, we have none other than Amen Amem, excuse me, uh Araf Uchas, uh Minister of Interreligious Relationships and Founder and President of Common Word Alliance Clergy Interfaith Uh Organization Incorporated, as well as Ministry and Spirituality Centers for Humanity Incorporated.

Imam Hushis, thank you for joining us this morning.

The floor is yours.

Before you good morning so much.

Thank you.

And this Imam is fantastic to see you.

Imam Huski, he is a resident of the third district, and always a pleasure to see him.

He hosted an IFTAR last week at last center, where we broke the fast together.

And so I've had an opportunity to speak at a number of his events.

And so just really glad to see you here today, and thank you.

It's always good to see my bosses, especially when they come to offer prayer to the entire city.

Thank you.

Good morning, brothers and sisters.

As this beautiful city of Detroit is very diversified city.

I greet you with a asalamu alaykum ratullah and Ramadan Mubarak, which means love, peace, and the blessings be upon you all.

As he mentioned for our IFTAR, I thank him for attending this event and many more in the past.

I look forward to having in future as well.

I'm so grateful to Honorable Cousin Woman Mary Waters for joining him and us at this beautiful IFTA event.

And also thankful to cousin Denzel McCampbell for having out his representative at this event.

I appreciate our honorable mayor Mary Sheffield for having her representative as well.

Very grateful to our governor Gretchen Wittmer for having her representative.

We had a death Iftar, more than 50 organizational representatives, leaders.

And throughout the evening, about 150 people playing about 200 plus people.

But in case of incident at the synagogue in West Broomfield happens that media was focused there, and many of our partners.

So we were a little bit lacking that.

But I welcome you back again to the Edelfeatter celebration on March 26 at the same place, Blasky Recreation Center.

I'm so honored to utilize our city Detroit's facilities that we can accommodate our neighbors where they can learn what Detroit offered to them.

In the name of God, most gracious, most blessful.

Let us pray.

Respected members of the city council, honorable mayor Mary Sheffield, Chief of Police Tad Batson, and all those gathered here today.

Let us begin this session by turning our hearts to the Almighty, the Creator of all humanity, known in our different traditions as God, Allah, Adonai, the most compassionate and the most merciful.

Oh God, source of wisdom and justice.

We thank you for the blessings of this day and for the responsibility entrusted to those who serve the people of this great city of Detroit.

As it is written in the Holy Quran, indeed, Allah commends justice, excellence, and generosity toward others.

Quran, Surah and Naha, meaning the bee, number 16 and verse 90.

And in the Holy Bible, we read, blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.

Matthew 5, verse 9.

And in the Torah, we are reminded justice, justice shall you pursue.

Deuteronomy 16, verse 20.

O Lord of mercy, grant those leaders wisdom in their decisions, clarity in their vision and integrity in their service.

Guide them as they deliberate on matters that affect the live the lives of families, children, workers, seniors, and future generations.

Bless this council with the courage to seek what is right, the humility to listen to one another, and the unity to work together for the common good.

Bless our neighborhoods with safety and peace, strengthen our law enforcement and all who serve to protect the public, support our educators and students with knowledge and opportunity, encourage our youth with people, with encourage our youth with hope and purpose, care for our seniors with dignity and compassion, grant success to efforts that create affordable housing, meaningful employment, and good paying jobs, inspire innovation that improves infrastructure, strengthen local businesses, and opens doors for those seeking opportunities.

Bless the volunteers, community leaders, and all people of goodwill who worked tirelessly to uplift this city, help Detroit continue to grow as a place where diversity is honored, inclusion is practiced, and justice and opportunity are shared by all.

Guide every decision made here today so that it reflects wisdom, fairness, and compassion for our residents.

Dear God, may this spirit of service guide this council today and always grant them wisdom in their decisions, integrity in their actions, and compassion in their hearts.

May they serve with humility, seek justice with sincerity, and work together in unity for the good of all.

Bless their efforts, and let peace, understanding, and righteousness prevail in all they do.

Amen.

So much joint.

God bless you all.

Thank you.

Thank you so much again for that wonderful prayer.

You are more than uh welcome to stay with us, but we understand if you have a busy schedule and you must take off.

So thank you again.

Right.

Um, the journal of the session of Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026, will be approved.

We do have two uh very special presentations before we jump into the rest of the agenda.

Um member waters has gone around the city of Detroit and done a tremendous job in educating Detroiters uh about the uh issue of deed fraud, partner with uh colleagues in each district again.

Uh thank you for that work.

Uh was very honored to join you in District One at Crowwell.

Uh, and she wanted to take an opportunity today to uh thank those who have joined her along the journey.

So with that being said, I'll turn the mic over to member waters.

I'll take those glasses.

Glasses up there, I get the top of glass right there.

Yeah, give me away.

I know, I don't know who they are.

They don't fit me there.

Blue German now.

Santana, can you join me?

Okay, all right.

So good morning, everyone.

I'm Mary Waters.

It's certainly an honor to serve you, uh representing the whole D.

So I let me just not um prolong things.

You know, when we receive the the messages from our register of deeds, uh Bernard Youngblood.

Uh I was up around midnight or so, sometime 2 a.m.

And it just bothered me from deep within.

And so then I started reaching out to one of my staffers, and I said, you know, we gotta we gotta do something about this.

People need to know about this, and so we right away started to organizing by districts, and uh and so very, very grateful for people who do not work for the city, none of that, but who decided to give of their time.

Now there were two of them at every single meeting, and and you know what Detroit is it didn't matter if it was in the morning, uh late afternoon, whatever time of day it was, they were just right there, right there to make sure that Detroiters were educated on this issue, and matter of fact, we just this past Saturday.

We were out, and we have a couple more of them actually that that we're gonna do more specialized.

So we're gonna start out with Miss Emma Elder Hall and Santa, could you read just a brief part of her spirit as a professional in the title industry with Detroit Title Company, Emma Elder Howell works on the front lines of property transactions, helping ensure that ownership records are accurate and legitimate through her experience in title and real estate documentation, she brings valuable insight into how fraudulent transfers occur and how residents can safeguard their home and property rights, all right.

Miss Emma come on and join us, please.

Yeah, right there, and um next, we gotta bring up um attorney Ted Phelps, and uh Santa, go ahead just a little bit of Mr.

Attorney Ted Phillips.

He was right there every single day, Mr.

President.

Yes.

By participating in Detroit's Deed Fraud Education Series, Ted Phillips generously offered his knowledge and experience to help residents better understand how property fraud occurs and what steps they can take to protect their homes.

The city of Detroit honors Ted Phillips for his continued dedication to protecting Detroit residents.

All right.

All right, Lakeshore Legal just came with a whole bunch of knowledge.

People started blowing their phones up, I understand afterwards.

So go ahead, Santana.

Let's acknowledge Lakeshore Legal.

In support of Detroit's Deed Fraud Education Series, Lakeshore Legal Aid generously provided legal expertise and dedicated staff to help inform residents of the risks of property fraud and the legal steps available to safeguard home ownership.

Attorneys and representatives, Heather Herbert, Robert Donald, and Mike Meyer participated on behalf of the organization, offering valuable knowledge and guidance to Detroit homeowners who are seeking to protect their property and generational wealth.

All right.

So my girl here, Suzanne Fanning.

By volunteering her time as a panelist in Detroit's deed fraud education series, Suzanne Fanning shared her legal expertise to help residents understand how probate issues intersect with property ownership and how they can safeguard their homes and estates from fraudulent activities.

All right.

So we have a the tenant resource center that is not here.

And what's the other one?

Okay, go ahead.

Council member Mary Waters and the Detroit City Council proudly honor Donovan McCarthy and Khadid Kaja Erickson of the Tenant Resource Center for their commitment to educating Detroit residents and supporting efforts to prevent defraud and protect housing stability.

All right.

Thank you.

And thank you.

Um thank you, Santana, for for your assistance.

I I just want to let this team here know how much we so appreciate you all.

Yeah, can they have a 30-second comment, Mr.

President?

All right, then come on, we'll start with you.

Miss Emma.

Okay.

Good afternoon.

Good morning, everyone.

Uh, first and foremost, thank you.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the opportunity.

Thank you for the phone call.

The call just came and said, hey, we're doing a defraud session.

We found your title company.

Would you like to be a part of it?

Me doing this for 26 years and being able to help people.

The answer was an automatic yes.

I didn't even know what I was saying yes to, other than explaining how to protect your investment, your generational wealth.

And it turned into a journey that every every session, I was excited, the passion to be able to help someone.

I truly appreciate it.

You say, let's do it again.

I'm ready to do it again.

Thank you.

Okay, well how much.

Okay.

Turn the panel and some.

Well, thank you for the honor.

Certainly, we don't do this for honors, but we definitely appreciate it.

I've been at this since uh 1986.

Uh, and uh this has been an issue over the years.

I'm glad to see that it's uh coming to the forefront, and hopefully we'll be able to do more.

There's a lot of issues in housing that I look forward to working with this council and new administration to try to address.

And some of those I did tax for closure, other kinds of things.

I do hope when deed fraud, for example, uh, we can connect that up with like right to council, because some of these folks end up in court.

It'd be good to be able to catch them at that stage to make sure that they don't get evicted.

So a lot of work still to be done, a lot of good things were done.

I thank you, Councilmember Waters, for putting this together and all the council members for supporting it in their districts.

Uh a lot more to go, but a lot of hope.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

On behalf of Lakeshore, I greatly appreciate this.

This is very, very nice.

Um, I will say that uh there's uh Lakeshore has staff attorneys working on this, but also on uh we have a bunch of volunteer attorneys coming in, volunteer paralegals, and there's several of us that take care of it.

Um it hasn't been as long as Ted Phillips, but but Lakeshore started a home for generation clinic and on the third Friday of every month.

It's open from 10 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

if anybody has any issues with your property documents through uh or probate documents, and not only if you have an issue now, but if you don't want an issue, there's a cool little thing called a ladybird deed, and we're able to um prepare that as well.

Um and what the Ladybird D quite a little commercial is um if you own the home, you could do whatever you want with the home, you can refinance it, you can sell it to somebody else, you can give it to somebody else.

But the minute you die, it automatically transfers to whoever you want it to, and it's that's where we get the home for generations.

It's an easy transfer, and you won't be in the position that maybe your grandparents are great grandparents, and you can like I said, it's on the third Friday of every month uh 3200 Greenfield, or you can call the uh free free line at 888-783-8190.

And again, we have gotten several calls, and we're helping a lot of people, so thank you.

And Miss Waters, thank you for running here today.

Good morning.

I just want to say thank you to Councilmember Waters, Santana, her chief of staff, all of her staff, security, everybody that and all of my final uh panel members and the other council members.

Uh it was very nice to meet you.

You came and gave your own time uh to help councilwoman uh waters.

What I learned is it's so important to get information out to all the districts.

Um Detroit is a is a vast area of different diverse districts.

Um each time we went out, we had such good response.

I've been door to door where people say I saw you on Zoom, and it was getting the information, and everybody standing next to me gave information in such biteable pieces that made it understandable and was so great resources for people, and there's a lot of work to be done.

So I understand there's still 5,500 houses where deeds have not transferred.

So I'm here anytime you need me to do some more work.

Thank you.

And thank and thank you, everybody.

Um, and certainly uh huge thank you to my colleagues who tolerated me coming into the districts, allowing um us to put their uh uh faces and names on the flyers and and so forth.

And uh one of the biggest cheerleaders when we got to his district, yeah.

Well, you know, number three, you know what a cheerleader is, Mr.

President.

And and and and Mr.

President himself, the house was jam-packed uh in his in his district.

So, you know, when we went across the city, ladies and gentlemen, you don't know how much people appreciate the information.

They've been calling, and I don't know if they've been calling you out's office, but they've been calling my office, telling us how grateful they are.

And so we are looking at doing some things here at the local level.

Uh, Mr.

President, uh, I know that they're busy working on some things at the state level as well.

We are going to nip this in the bud in term in terms of people stilling, literally stilling generational wealth.

And again, I want to thank you all so much.

You can you guys stick around for a photo a little bit later?

All right, okay, thank you.

Thank you so much.

Now, member waters has a second presentation for a very special young thing.

All right, so let me okay.

I I they didn't bring it.

Let me just say that when you do these things, anything that any elected official does, you can't you cannot get it done all by yourself.

You have to have team members who are just passionate about their community who's very passionate about the issues, and I don't take that for granted.

So, whether we're talking about defraud, land bank issues, land value tax.

I have two women for sure on my staff.

I can hand it to they are going to take it, twist it upside down, turn it around, make sure that people understand it.

They're gonna be extremely passionate about it, and I just want to say to them today for always being so passionate about the city and about the people that we all love.

And I want to thank you, Santana Heel, and I want to thank Joanna under it.

Thank you.

Yes, I I don't know where Joanna is, but okay.

Every time I've acknowledged her, she's around.

Okay.

So now let me tell you.

You wanted to say the best for last.

Huh.

Yes.

Come on up here, Miles.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

I like it when you kind of give the pretext.

Go ahead.

I don't have I didn't create anything.

You didn't.

No, because I knew you were going to just bring the house down.

Okay.

So yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yes, that right there, Miles, so they can see you.

So anyway, Miles.

You know, I I read about you.

I saw you on TV.

We all did.

And we are so extremely proud of you.

And I know that you are going to be a fantastic leader in this city in this nation and in this world.

Because you're already off to a great start.

And so we wanted to take this opportunity today to just honor you.

Um read this for me.

I mean, I can read it, but you're faster.

Okay.

All right.

Council, Mary Waters and the Detroit City Council proudly honor Miles Danzler as a young Detroit scholar and mensa achievement honoree.

Recognized for demonstrating excellence beyond his years.

Miles represents the brilliance, curiosity, and promise found within Detroit's youth, embodying the spirit of academic achievement and intellectual distinction through his dedication to learning and his remarkable accomplishments at such a young age.

His abilities and his commitment to pursuing excellence and all that he does is reflected in his recognition as a Mensa achievement honoring the city of Detroit celebrates Miles Danzler for inspiring his peers and community and representing the bright future of our city's next generation of scholars and leaders.

Because you are so special, Miles.

Now here it has the spirit of Detroit on it.

And it says Miles Dancer, a young Detroit scholar, mensa, achievement honoring excellence beyond his years.

The city of Detroit honors you, Miles.

That's what it says.

Now do you like this beautiful person?

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

All right.

We wanted to make sure that you had that.

So we're going to take some pictures with you.

Would you like to?

Is that your mom and dad over there?

All right.

Come on up, Mama Dad.

If I can mention that uh Mensah has less than 150,000 people globally who are part of uh this organization.

So Miles has uh scored within the top two in terms top two percent, excuse me.

Uh intelligence tests.

Uh and I just think that needs to be noted, and he's eight years old as well.

Yes, years old.

So this is prep.

This is one of I'm sure of many, many, many awards and accolades that he's going to achieve uh in his life.

So uh thank you for bringing before us.

Thank you, parents, for all the absolutely love that you brought it to.

Miles, would you would you like to have something to say, Miles?

I don't know if you feel I don't know.

Can you reach your microphone here?

Would you say thank you?

I know you're talking questions.

Okay, how special do you feel today?

Very special, very special.

You know why?

Because you are special.

All right, so mom, maybe your dad can say something if you if you want was not prepared to get up here and speak.

Was not prepared to get up here and speak.

But hello, everyone.

My name is Jamila Johnson.

And thank you so much for recognizing Miles.

I've always known he will he's intelligent.

Everybody knows their baby is gifted.

Um, I just want other parents to embrace their child's gift because every kid is gifted.

So now that he has this platform, um, we are going to start working on that.

And his next thing is he wants to go read to a pre-K class and visit them.

So we're going to take books and educational toys to the kids in the city.

We'll be visiting Man Elementary.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you so much.

Dad, you good.

Hi, I am Michael Dancler.

Miles is extremely proud, Dad.

I would just like to thank everybody for the outpouring of blood and support.

I specifically want to thank you, Councilmember Waters, for bringing them up here and presenting him with this award.

We really appreciate everything that you guys have done for us so far.

Okay.

All right, so Mr.

President, we can uh take some photos.

We can we can start with uh with Miles.

Okay, this is beautiful.

Oh, yeah.

We'll now close the collection of public comments.

Thank you so much.

Everyone, if we can give another round of applause for our today's awardees.

The proud.

There being no reconsiderations or unfinished business, we will proceed with the budget, audit, and finance standing committee.

One report from the office of the chief financial officer.

The one report will be referred to the budget finance and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee, madam clerk.

Two reports from various city departments.

The two reports will be referred to the uh internal operations standing committee for the computer.

Just blinked on me.

Wow.

Sorry about that.

One report from the mayor's office.

Mr.

President, I think you lost your quorum.

Colleagues, we need colleagues back in the committee of the whole.

Too excited.

Colleagues, if we can please return back to the auditorium so we can continue the agenda for today's formal session.

Madam Clerk, will you please call the roll?

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Councilmember Denzel and Tom McCampbell.

Present.

Councilmember Renata Miller.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero.

Present.

Councilmember Mary Waters.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Council President Pro Tim Colmane a second.

Here.

Thank you so much.

During the meeting, which will allow us to continue, which we are at at this moment.

And I'll just start back where we left off.

For the planning and economic development standing committee, madam clerk.

One report from the legislative policy division.

The one report would be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the plan, excuse me, for the public health and safety standing committee.

Seven reports from various city departments.

Seven reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee.

We will now move to the voting action matters.

Under other matters.

Under communications from the mayor and other governmental officials and agencies.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

We now call for public comment.

We have twelve individuals who are in the committee, excuse me, in the auditorium in person who indicated that they were wanted to speak.

And we will begin with Ruben James Crowley Jr., followed by Kenneth Isaacson, followed by Char Williams.

Everyone will have two minutes for public comment.

Sir Ruben James Crowley Jr.

The floor is yours first.

Please begin this time.

And I'd approved and demonstrated and gave the information to Donald Date Trump, number 47.

President of the United States of America.

And I expect him when he finishes over in the Middle East to come in here and get you all the way together.

Joker.

And it's ridiculous.

Gabriela Santiago Romero, you're a liar.

On public record, lying.

Cannis where we've been cheating in elections.

I believe 15 years, I can only prove since 2020.

Irrefutable, concrete.

Still two for track proof and evidence.

And I'm getting ready to take it where I need to go.

Because Nimi acts.

Did you hear that, James?

Pete Tate Jr.

District One Representative City Council President.

Did it all right?

I love it.

Next speaker, Kenneth Isaacson, followed by Char Williams, followed by Lemisia Hall.

And I do apologize if I mispronounced your name.

Good morning, Detroit City Council and members of the Detroit community.

My name is Kenneth Isaacson.

I serve as a paramedic with the Detroit Fire Department.

I'm assigned to Medicaid Eastern Market.

And I'd like to tell you a little bit about my story and my significance in our state and our country.

My birthday was assigned during my adoption proceedings.

After being adopted and brought to the United States, I grew up in Dearborn Heights.

However, some unfortunate circumstances happened.

For nearly four years, I carried everything I owned in a trash bag.

I lived in foster homes, group homes, and even a now closed juvenile prison camp.

Despite that, I graduated high school on time.

While still in foster care, I became an EMT by attending Kalamazoo Valley Community College while living in a group home in Kalamazoo.

An achievement that has placed me in Michigan and American history as the first and only known individual to serve as an EMT while still in youth foster care.

This was honored by Governor Gretchen Governor Gretchen Whitmer, members of Congress, and President Trump.

For 59 days in 2020, I was both in youth foster care and working as an EMT responding to 911 calls during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Being in foster care is one of the worst experiences a child can go through.

During one of the hardest chapters of my life, I was protecting others when no one was protecting me.

After aging out, I became a firefighter for the course fire department before attending paramedic school at Henry Ford College, where I graduated at the top of my class.

After graduating paramedic school, I joined the Detroit Fire Department on March 3rd, 2025, a job that I dreamed of since I was 16 years old in foster care.

Today I travel across Michigan creating pathways for foster youth to become first responders, the fostered heroes project.

Because of this work, we now have programs across the state helping foster youth leave foster care with EMG licenses and full-time jobs.

Additionally, I have started five more programs in Indiana and one in Ohio.

Oops, sorry.

Thank you for your service.

Thank you for your service as well as your advocacy.

Thank you.

Could I finish after or unfortunately?

We do only uh we're only allowed to provide the same amount of time for everyone, but we want to again thank you for your service.

We're gonna give members an opportunity after all the public comments, uh, in person to say a few words uh on your behalf.

So thank you again.

Hello, everyone.

Um Red me coming to these boys commission meetings for the um forever.

What I've been speaking about.

So last week he didn't show up.

That's cool because everything else is on record freedom of information at request.

And it's very unfortunate.

I come down here, I've been coming down here for quite some time.

Um the two officers that I've been speaking about when I was at 3426 Mac Avenue, that shelter when eternal fair officer came to get the weapons that these officers is taking up bear spaces from the homeless.

This is not acceptable.

I've been complaining about a whole lot of stuff, but the best thing the only thing is gonna happen to figure out who's on the Detroit police department and who's legal citizens in this country.

The LBI gonna have to take it back because you all are not capable of doing this job correctly, and they're gonna mandate who is US citizens and who are not US citizens on this illegal corruption, and also ex-offenders that's in this facility right now.

I speak about this, it's not acceptable.

Terrence Reynolds is the man who raped me.

He's on the Detroit Police Department, work at the third priest with a bad eye.

His fake name is Tim.

So how can he get on the Detroit police department with a fake name?

And I don't care what you all do or say, he gets changed to a different priest, a different time, a different schedule.

It doesn't matter.

This man is on the force with a different name.

And he's not the only criminals that's on the force with fake name.

Like I said, how you gonna have an ex-king on the Detroit police department?

Bush Jones, he's deceased now, but he was on there.

This is not acceptable.

You all sit up here every week and act like it's all good.

You're nothing but poison.

Thank you.

Our next speaker Marcia Lamasia.

My apologies, sir.

Lemasha M Lee.

Followed by Ronnie Paul.

I say greetings to all of y'all on the council board and uh blessings.

And I'm thankful that uh that predestination put y'all on in the position y'all been in.

Does a fake a little closer to that?

Put y'all in the positions y'all in to see to it that everybody in Detroit be treated fairly, and you're doing the best that y'all can and blessings for that.

And good is best that good deeds are we bad deeds, or else you wouldn't be there.

So I'll say that to say this here, too.

It is time for single citizen buildings that have escalators to take the place of steel stairways when the single citizens cannot get down, the elevators break down, regular raggedy elevators, and uh, and also all these brothers and sisters of all color going around in wheelchairs with no legs.

When we got the highest technology in the whole world to give them uh robot legs to be like the old TV show, like a six million dollar man.

So in no sense, we've been riding in wheelchairs and on queue lines, getting almost ran over when this snow on the ground, they don't shovel up the snow on the sidewalks, they riding around the streets.

So they can be having uh robot legs if they get in touch with art caught, right?

You know, who had robots playing with downtown and all that, they can do that.

You know, it's sad to see that.

And so I say that also that uh prison reform need to be uh how much time I got need to be better put together better too, because I've seen over 40 prisoners killed hung and told their families, big families that it was suicide, and they tried to kill me when I was in there for 33 years.

That's why I've seen so many of them murdered, starved to death and everything.

Okay, and then I only prison they say they welcome to Ionia, where we own you niggas, and then Barica, Mississippi, up down up in Berkeley.

He said, Welcome to Barracum, Mississippi, where we hang you called a suicide.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Our next speaker, Ronald Foster, followed by Brother Cunningham, followed by Stephen Rim.

Good morning.

Um through the president, a few things.

Um glad to see the presentation today.

You know, when it comes down to deep fraud, as you all know, I've been coming down for some years.

I know every transaction that occurred here, good, bad, or indifferent.

And so when people come in front of this body, I believe that they should come with a more humble spirit.

You understand?

Um, after certain organizations were indicted for stealing from this community, all right.

Um, with the influences that they have, don't have the integrity to rebut certain influences, and yet they get another opportunity to come down here and continue to be a vendor here.

They should be coming down here humble.

And I'm talking about United Housing Coalition, okay, and whoever they work for, or whoever it is that's been messing with.

And so that that's where I'm at with it.

So it's cool to present things to people, but they have to acknowledge the wrongs that they have done here, and then receive an award and move forward, okay.

And so, you know, taking people's properties and things is not something to be like, it's not something to be just disregarded as something uh we as a community want accountability and accountability is gonna be the same allocation that you require in courthouses for our community when they have to take pleas and do different things, they have to acknowledge their wrongs.

When you guys come up here and you got vendors here, it's not gonna be none slipped under the rug.

They have to come in front of this community, acknowledge their wrongs, and then they can move forward.

I don't think that's getting through these guys' head, and I'm not gonna be harassed because of what I know.

Okay, we want a better community here.

It's not none of that backdoor slipping stuff no more.

Stand up, stand up for who you are, the decisions you make, and be held accountable.

Thank you, Brother Cunningham, followed by Stephen Rimmer, followed by Daryl Stewart.

Good morning, everyone.

The sound of my voice.

313, 4449114, 313, 4449114.

313, 444, 9114.

That number was made so you can remember it.

I hope that all council persons have a flyer about the hybrid meeting, which now every three months, the D.

Input meetings is pizza and raffling off bus tickets.

Um I came up with it.

They went ahead and did it.

The last time we were packed, it was new voices, new faces, just like the Holy Spirit said it would be.

It was lots of lots and lots of new people speaking up.

So every third month is a hybrid, and the pizza and the bus tickets is outreach.

Uh, and it's been working, so it's a good thing.

And then I I text uh Mr.

Kramer, and he made sure that they uh uh uh sent it out on the uh on their social media platform.

So listen to Peon's work, um, listen to your constituents' work, no matter what demographic, uh educational background, listening is very, very important, and having respect is our have respect for everyone the same, uh, should be done.

Um, so that is Thursday, um 5 o'clock to 6:30 p.m.

You can also go to my Facebook page, put in that phone number 313, 44494.

You'll see the information on there.

You can text message me, I'll text you the flyer back.

Um, I do believe you guys, oh, they're they're right there.

Um you I guess you will get the flyer, but it's also on their social media platforms.

So hopefully it's a packed house, maybe an intern, uh employee, someone can attend the meeting.

It just makes them feel good, makes them feel like someone cares.

Um the buses was not on time, it doesn't show up sometimes.

Folks need to feel loved.

It's coming to a meet.

Everyone under the sound of my voice.

Appreciate you, brother Cunningham.

Thank you, thank you.

Next speaker, Stephen Rimmer, followed by Daryl Stewart, followed by Josh Man.

Morning.

Um, Conrad Mallet, he said residents were forbidden from the leader.

He said residents would not be allowed to return to their homes.

He said, eminent domain is not possible.

Is Conrad Mallet the lawyer or is he the mayor?

Why is he calling all the shots?

Making decisions.

I thought that was y'all, the opposition.

There was a redevelopment plan where residents were promised new luxury apartments at Leland if they stayed through renovations.

A community benefits ordinance that included affordable housing with income-based grant.

We have documents from these redevelopment plans 2021.

And according to them, there were a lot of players involved.

The city of Detroit, Detroit District 6 managers, Detroit Brownfield Redevelopment Authority Board, United Community Housing Coalition, Detroit Fire Marshal, Detroit Economic Growth Corporation, the City of Detroit Housing Revitalization Department, and many more.

Where are they all now?

Why are they acting as if they're unaware or uninvolved with the situation?

And when did this renovation plan fail?

Why did they abandon Lila residence?

So you as you all know, we have a mediation tomorrow.

Couple issues.

This temporary generator.

The city is saying that it's going to cost over 200,000 word in court.

The building owners council said it they can get three generators repaired for 75,000.

Building security.

Last week, Conrad Mallet said that the building was under 24 hours of security of the manager.

There's been a break-ins, multiple break-ins, and we believe that the managers are the Garthogen who has a potential uh stake in buying this property.

So we we just want some support with these residents.

Um we we appreciate y'all supporting us, but there's been a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, and we just want transparency, especially from the thing.

Thank you.

Next speaker, Darrell Stewart, followed by Josh Mann, followed by Terry Jones.

Morning.

I'm Daryl Stewart, Lieutenant of the Leeland.

I'm here once again to speak about this.

This word was used a couple weeks ago last week, and it's stress, neglect.

We have another problem of neglect.

That's security issues.

And then the door being open over the weekend, which has the tenants in the uproar because stuff is at stake in there.

It's valuable stuff up in there.

Bourbon going in, thieves going in.

Mask y'all can see in your heart.

Can we speed along the process of us getting up in that building and getting our things and getting on with our lives?

That's all we ask.

Because going through that tension of thinking about what could have been compromised in my spot.

We have no stake in um security.

We have nobody there looking out for us.

We're trusting what's being told to us.

We found out because we went and looked ourselves.

You can imagine what that was like finding that out that way.

So I asking you CNR, and we can speed on this process of the building being taken up and being renovated, and actually get a renovation to the women in construction.

They bad.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Next speaker, Josh Mann, followed by Terry Jones, followed by Anthony Eden.

Good morning, everybody.

Uh with these Leland people.

When I started Detroit's first legal drifting pit, everybody was doing donuts at my parking lot.

Everybody's turning up.

Y'all sent police there, retired police officers to sit there 24 hours a day for must have been like two, three months during COVID.

Easily you should be able to put a police officer there because people are breaking into their building.

I see videos of it, people on the rooftop, people exploring through there, seeing graffiti in there.

So it's unfortunate that they're trying to go about this the legal way and wait for everybody to make a resolution where everybody else could care less and it's just going in there and vandalizing it.

Uh the flock camera system is a military weapon.

It needs to be removed.

It's not this like camera video surveillance, data centers compiling this information of everybody.

That's how they got the leader of Iran.

It's through accessing video surveillance, facial recognition to know exactly where they were.

This needs to be removed yesterday.

People, you will regret this for the future generations of what you helped put in place.

It's a horrible system that you could remove, but you're helping it move forward.

Also, I'm still waiting on feedback.

I've talked to maybe five officials about the parking, the cars hitting my house and stuff.

I've talked to maybe five people, nobody's responded.

So I don't know.

I know things take a long time, but I still think you should get a response email.

Um also Tuesday night city council meeting was so boring.

There was me, Brother Cunningham, and one lady.

That is horrible.

It's a waste of all your time and all your members' time.

Pay for parking so people like can we should revamp this and make it part of the city.

Pay for our parking down here who's speaking, encourage people to come and participate.

Because I feel bad for you guys that you'd have to waste a Tuesday night for that.

That was bad.

You know, I got to see a cool church that was the highway.

Thank you.

I thought it was it, next speaker, Terry Jones, followed by our final speaker, Anthony E.

How are y'all doing today?

My name's Terry Jones.

I have a house on 14817 Rosemary Street.

The teacher justice is my council lady.

I've been trying to get in contact with her about this situation.

This city right here is not helping me at all.

These people said they sold my house for 616,000.

I'm in the red zone.

And put my house in LLC names out of post box.

I'm doing y'all job.

Let me ask you a question.

If this one in your house or your family, what would y'all do?

I had my house since September 6th, 2022.

Wasn't backing no taxes, none of that.

Can't get no help.

I feel like the city ain't helping me.

Next thing I'm gonna do, I'm gonna bring the feds involved because I feel like somebody downtown at the Wayne County Deeds Department is getting paid.

And I and my thing is if this is your family member of your house, what would you do?

I've been fighting this ever since 2022.

I got the people named, I got addresses, I got everything.

I can't get no help.

Miss Johnson helped me.

She told these people to leave my house on Rosemary.

And they came back every 52 days talking about I'm an occupant.

How the hell is I'm an occupant?

You going down 36 Disney court saying I'm rent from you.

Where's the random paper?

Now they got somebody in my house, rent it out, and nobody investigated.

I would like to know what's going on.

If I live in Oakland County, well I'll work it and come here and work here too at the scrapper.

I get more results from them than I do here.

My money is here.

And I feel like I'm not getting no help.

Miss John helped me, but it's like the court ain't looking at the paperwork.

I got paperwork.

Thank you.

So we want to uh let everyone know that those who are not familiar with our process, there may be responses to some of the public comments that are coming before you, but we'll do so after uh the public all the public comments have come in.

So stick around.

See morning, council members.

First off, uh, thank you for the opportunity to speak.

I know hearing public comment isn't always easy, so I appreciate it.

My name's Anthony Eden.

I'm the senior director of public policy over at CDAD, community development advocates of Detroit.

I want to take a moment to thank many of your policy staff for joining us at our Tech Town offices a few weeks ago for a presentation on our new transition, what we're calling our transition playbook for the new administration.

We appreciate your time and engagement and the opportunity to share this work with you directly.

I also want to thank you for the thoughtful questions asked yesterday at uh the budget hearing.

I, for one, am very excited for the prospect of increased funding to the housing trust fund and the historic investment in D Dot.

So while most of your staff has already seen it, I wanted to come here and present you with a copy of our transition playbook today.

It's a document that reflects extensive input from community development organizations across the city and outlines a set of actionable data informed policy recommendations that focus on housing stability, neighborhood investments, and economic opportunity for our city.

It's designed to be a practical tool.

It aligns with many of the priorities currently under discussion.

The mayor's 100-day plan, which I know we're almost about halfway through, but I think it's going to continue past 100 days.

Um, particularly as you consider the city's budget and long term investment.

Our goal is to support your work by offering clear strategies and better grounded in community voice, policy expertise, and actionable data-driven outcomes.

We look forward to continuing to work alongside you and your offices to advance these recommendations and make real impact for our city so that no one in our great city is left behind.

No matter if they're here downtown, in midtown, on the east side, west side, or anywhere in the city limits.

But uh, right now I have a copy of our executive summary.

It's a little truncated, short form version, and on the back is a QR code you can scan.

So thank you.

Thank you.

Can I leave this with someone?

Yes.

I'm coming to know that uh some colleagues wanted to provide some comments uh for individuals that were in person.

I won't allow that to happen now because some of them may have to leave.

All right.

To our uh firefighter, I want to say, you know, thank you for again for your service.

We appreciate uh all the work that you have done, we'll continue to do, and uh stay strong.

I continue to work on behalf of our young folks who are aging on the foster care and those who are in it.

So commend you for the work that you do.

Absolutely.

Any further callers?

None.

We shall now transition to our online public comment.

Morning, Mr.

Whitfield.

We have 13 callers, I believe, and who do we have first?

Good morning, Council President.

Our first caller is Betty A.

Varner.

Mr.

A.

Varner, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Uh, good morning to all within the sound of my voice.

Uh, congrats to all who received the awards, especially young Miles.

Keep up the great work.

I'm here today.

I'm president of the Soda Elsewell Black Association, and I'm here today to give some information to help uh people who are caregivers.

If you are a caregiver and you are taking care of your loved one and you need assistance, there's no one to help you.

I understand I was a caregiver for my mother and father uh for over 40 years.

It is not an easy job.

We do it with love.

Uh, there is an organization called Community Solutions.

Um, Miss Deborah A.

Royal is the executive director and owner.

You can reach out to her at 313 484808.

Again, 313 484 3808.

There's a uh program under her umbrella that's called Helping Hands.

She has quite a few programs, but this particular program focuses on caregivers, and then the person who the caregiver is taking care of, they receive services also.

She will come in, have people come into the home and assist and do the work that you do for your loved one.

Then you get a chance to get away.

You there's luncheons, there's uh boat rides, uh, she has different type of entertainment.

She provides for the uh caregivers.

You can get your hair done, your nails done.

She just do what is necessary to give you a break.

So please, if you need these services or other services, and you don't have to have Medicaid for this particular service.

Some you do.

Thank you for you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is Shimika.

All right, Carly, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes, general public comment.

Hello.

Hello.

This is my third time speaking before this body of government.

My name is Shamika.

You can follow me on Facebook at Meek Meek.

That's M I K Space M I K.

Meek is my childhood nickname given to me as a little girl growing up in Detroit.

Women have fought against patriarchy for generations.

Therefore, I'm not surprised that men would ignore my plight or not assist me.

But how is it that in a city predominantly black, can a black woman living in Metro Detroit say I was drugged, sexually assorted, and mistreated by the Detroit police department.

But not one woman in local politics opened up her mouth, nor offered me any assistance.

Women voters, especially black women voters.

Please take notice.

This is the type of representation that we're getting.

Is this what you want for yourself?

Your daughters or your granddaughters?

Mary Sheffield, Mary Waters, Renata Miller, Angela Wickfield, Letisha Johnson, Gabrielle Santiago Romera, Eva Garza, here we had a Ivy, Lisa Carter, Beverly Watts, the Victoria Camille.

Shame on you all.

Your silence is deafening.

You are not helping black women and little black girls.

There's an epidemic of missing women and black girls in Detroit.

The women that I've named pick and choose who they help.

It seems the leadest.

No matter my social status, criminal history, skin color, or finances.

All Detroiters deserve assistance and representation.

It's time to wake up.

Hold politicians accountable and do not re-elect silent politicians who sit on their hands.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Someone from EPU or someone have the folks down in the hallway reduce their volume, please.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Caller is on her papa.

All right, caller, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Let's put that call up.

Is that you, Ms.

Hughes?

All right, let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next, please.

Okay, next caller is William Davis.

Mr.

William M.

Davis, the floor is yours.

We have two minutes.

General public comment.

Good morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

Okay, I like to start off by saying that I think as those are excellent um recipients of being awarded today by Miss Councilwoman Waters.

You know, all of them outstanding, especially saying that uh young, young, young person there, because we need to be promoting and helping more young people.

I also think that uh what's that?

26.13.

Uh Don Isis, you know, that she should be recognized and awarded.

Um, I've been knowing her for years.

She's been coming to the Metro Deterrent All PAC, which I'm the current citizen co-chair.

And uh her like the other U.S.

attorneys from Southeastern Michigan are regular attendees.

Uh, I think we need to be doing more to recognize outstanding uh people.

Don Isen, you know, she's from Detroit, she went to Persian.

And uh, we have a lot of people that stand out that we should recognize.

Also, coming from District 7, I find it fascinating.

And we're the third largest district.

Uh, we pay more taxes than a number of other districts, but yet we only have one library in our district and no functioning recreational centers.

That's that's mad.

I mean, that's like crazy.

You know, what are we paying taxes for?

You know, we should have more than one library, and we should have at least uh a functioning recreational center.

You know, granted, we were supposed to be getting Dexter Amherst before uh part of our land was taken, you know, moved over to District 5, you know, but because uh district seven, you know, had more people than a number of other districts, so we lost land.

So hopefully more could be done to help district seven at least get another library, at least have a recreation center.

Some areas got two or three recreations, some areas got two or three libraries.

So district seven has been shortchanged.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes, good morning.

Can you hear me?

Yes, ma'am.

Can you hear me?

Yes, ma'am.

Hello.

Morning.

Can you hear me?

Can you hear me now?

I can hear you.

Can you hear me?

Yes, ma'am.

We can hear you now.

Okay, can you start me at two minutes, please?

Now I'm already down to five.

One okay, thank you.

Good morning.

I just want to uh congratulate the awardees.

That was wonderful that you did that.

Uh, member waters.

Uh, congratulations, young Miles.

We look forward to seeing you as one of our leaders.

Please don't be a capitulator.

Uh Professor Bernadette Otoa Henny uh should have one of those awards.

She should have been up there on the stage with all the other housing activists.

Uh, Professor uh Henney is a Harvard and Yale trained property law scholar who helped create uh and spearheaded their property tax reform ordinance here in Detroit.

So she should be up there as well.

Maybe you can consider uh giving her the spirit of Detroit award.

Uh also I want to uh apologize to uh um mayor Sheffield because um my comments were taken out of context when I said the city of Detroit was responsible for and and um uh former mayor Duggan said the city of Detroit was responsible for not getting um Ms.

Williams and her children help when they were sleeping in their car.

Uh I did I was not saying it was you, Mayor uh Sheffield, but I I gave that to the city of Detroit, as Doug and said, so I just want to make that clear.

Also, 600 million dollars.

We were illegally overtaxed, and a hundred thousand homes were illegally foreclosed.

Housing is a human right, and we want people to have housing here in Detroit.

It's the number one issue, and we hope that you continue to help us do the first hundred days of housing justice from the property.

All right, thank you for that.

Who's next to the queue?

Uh next in the queue is Mia.

All right, floor is yours.

Two minutes.

Going once.

Going twice.

Going three times.

All right, thank you so much.

You can submit your questions.

Right, and who's next in the queue?

Next caller is Reynard Monsky.

Mr.

Munchowski, floor is yours.

Two minutes.

Good morning, Mr.

President.

Can I be heard?

Yes, sir.

All right.

All right, my name is Renard Bashewski, District 6th resident, legacy resident district one.

Um, I'm with Detroit Plus platform as a transit organizer.

I didn't have much time to speak yesterday on the budget uh proposal for DOT, but I wanted to affirm and um just let this body know that the these initiatives about the shelter placement and about um expansion of transit, all of these elements with are within D.reimagine, which I believe is a breathing plan as well, too, which could be changed and altered as we go through this.

But it's a plan that outlines to through 2030, and the director in this council and now the new administration seems to actually be implementing aspects of it.

So from the community, um, I know it doesn't seem like the buses are running on time just yet.

Um, we've still got some issues to fix with the shortages, but I think what this budget does is put DOT on a path where it can actually start to do its job.

Appreciate council president's uh word about when are we gonna get out of this system of repair and getting DD, you know, from shruging along to actually being a bona fide system of choice, like people use uh CTA in Chicago or MCA in New York or even down in uh Cleveland, which funds way higher than us.

Um they have um a BRT land, which I hope that we can invest in certain corridors like Grand River later this year.

Um so I just wanted to acknowledge all the activists and organizers and bus riders.

We've got to win with this budget because it adds more to the drivers and mechanics, and um I really thank this body for finally listening to us, but I really want to thank every one of us that come down here or on phone to speak to council about transit needs.

We were ignored, we were invisible, and now through working with this body, we actually are visible, and I think all of us will really put in the thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is calling user one.

Call in user one.

The floor is yours to minister in republic comment.

Call in user one.

Are you can I be heard?

Yes, ma'am.

Is this member young or uh member tape?

President Tate.

Good morning.

Thank you.

Member Tate from here on out until maybe May.

I will solely be bringing my concerns to you and member young.

I will not be dealing with the individual that's been elected for District 5.

She disrespected my brain aunt.

Um in accusing me of using a falsified name, which is a blatant lie.

You have dealt with me, council member Young has dealt with me for years.

I don't kiss nobody's Devi air, but I'm courteous, but I will not be kissing nobody's Devi Air.

And I want to say that for the legal record.

I don't like that you all are allowing heroin and fentanyl being sold downtown on Washington at the corner of Michigan at the bus stop.

And it's in front of the new business.

I've sent pictures, nothing is being done.

Glass is broken out of the bus shelters on Grand River, um, at seven mile with Myers and six mile and liver noise, and you got liquor bottles right now as we speak at Michigan and Washington Boulevard.

You need to have more uh response and getting this stuff cleaned up.

Um I'd like for you to have your representative member Kate to get back with us and let us know the times you're gonna be having community evening meetings so that I'm not just cut off and brushed off.

I'm really sick of it, and we're working on trying to get out the city.

Next caller, please.

That's caller's name, iPhone.

Caller the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Caller, are you there?

Let's put that caller at the end of the queue and go to the next call.

Hello, I'm here.

There you go.

Good morning.

Thank you.

It takes me a while on my phone.

Um I'm listening to the last caller.

Yeah, when I was younger, I do it sometimes still.

When I'm walking along if I see some garbage, I pick it up.

I think you can't you're only nine people.

You can't uh control everything.

We've got to figure out how to where people aren't so uh um caught up in their own thing that we can think about each other and say hi when we pass.

That's what I did when I grew up in Kansas.

We always always acknowledge, but also like uh pick up after each other, even though it's not our garbage.

My my house is a mess.

But I never throw garbage out that it's in my car, and then I gotta clean my car out, but it's not out in the community.

Um so that's uh something that we've uh the our the answers to our problems is to figure out how we can start working together and coordinate some of these problems that the libraries are good, the rec centers are good, but they're they're not maximizing the use of it.

And I I don't uh somehow uh even if we could have people going door to door with flyers and talking to their neighbors.

That's a way I mean I that's the best way to operate, you know.

When when you have these meetings for uh these uh master plans and and the plans are already made up, and then we're supposed to say which one we like.

That's not really involvement.

You know, the involvement we should be having going out and having citizens look at the different equipment they want for the rec centers and deciding what they want and seeing how much it costs instead of just uh delegating everything to caller is Chris Gilmer Hugh.

All right, caller the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Hi, morning.

Can I be heard?

Yes.

All right, my name is Chris Gilmer Hill.

I'm a lifelong resident of the city's second district, and uh as of recently, I am a candidate for our state house seat here in District 8.

Uh, I'm speaking today on the data center moratorium that's on the agenda.

Uh, I'd like to really commend council and especially thank my council member, councilmember Callaway for taking leadership on this.

Uh, I believe that this is absolutely the right move and that we need to immediately start thinking about in the long term.

What are we going to do to protect Detroiters from the impact of data centers?

And specifically, while I I recognize that there's very real concerns around AI itself, I'd like to speak on the impacts that it'll have on people struggling to pay for electricity and just basic resources, struggling to afford life in Michigan right now.

We know as a fact, in other states, when data centers come in, they have an immediate massive impact on the price of electricity.

When we spike demand by this much, this is what gives utilities like DTE and consumers a justification to build even more expensive ways of generating energy, specifically building new gas plants in order to meet that increased demand.

And we know that when DTE and consumers build these new gas plants, not only does that have a huge negative impact on our air quality and our environment, not only are we pumping carbon into the atmosphere, that those gas plants and the cost of building that that drives up the electricity cost for everybody.

We need immediate action at both the state and local level to rein in data centers to enforce laws that should be holding ratepayers account harmless and to ensure that the utilities are actually charging the fair share to data centers to their corporate consumers.

In the interim, I absolutely believe that Detroit needs to put an immediate pause.

Uh, there's massive concerns around rent payer impact around the air quality effects of diesel generators.

The only way we can protect people is by pausing the construction.

And I believe the best way to do that is a two-year moratorium.

So next caller, please.

Next caller is Shadante Smith.

Caller, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning, Robbie Heard.

Yes.

So I want to say uh the open meetings I was violated yesterday.

Uh you are not able to remove a person from a meeting unless the chair of the board of that meeting request the person to be removed.

And according to Kyra Rad Mallet, the person award.

There's an EPE member.

I can't remember last name.

She's a corporate meeting.

Uh, and she seems to have an out to me as a citizen.

I think that is incorrect.

Uh, I want to talk about prolonged.

In 2026, my biggest thing to do will be to down zone properly.

Well, my councilwoman Ronald Miller has talked about uh the council of Southeastern Michigan governors or whatever, and the fact that there is a statewide push to stop zoning after a small 6.77 acres place three four zero five in order that we have a zoning issue that is next to it.

That's operating right now.

There are 3.44 acres of vacant land that used to have houses, residential houses that is zoned in poor that needs to be down zoned.

It would zone correctly in the first place, Miss Miller.

If you understand, you can you can have any type of zone, but if there's the incorrect zone that needs to be fixed.

So it's not have been used for heavy industrial in the first place.

It was used for heavy industrial to make undesirable people who are immigrants and very poor, uh, very uncomfortable in our neighborhoods.

And so in 2026, we should down zone this lake to make sure that billionaires have to account to the neighborhoods, and the people who live in the neighborhoods are residents, and they don't want this this spewing of dust into their environment.

Also, the Villar Center is hope is slated to have other zoning because it's not zoning and for zone commercial to have another country mix of pressure.

And so I got the plan that says the criminals and crown enterprises in the room family want to do 29 acres in the Crown Pike State Call it.

They tore on the entire Sunny Side.

We will love down zoning.

I'm gonna work as hard as I can to get the five votes that I need around the room family and their money.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is C Gina Brown.

Good morning, can it be heard?

Yes.

My question is to each of the council members and directly to those that have served as union members or leaders.

How is it that you can honestly represent the citizens of our city when you are taking money from the very sources that request your votes for abatements and contracts?

It is a clear conflict of interest to the people of Detroit that you take money and then approve contracts for these same individuals and or companies.

It bothers me that the council person of district three can be so embedded in the affairs of other districts when the this district is dying in dying need of such and so much attention.

I will also be directing all my concerns to the at-large representatives and the mayor in writing.

You all are going to vote on a budget that allocates so much money to salaries of new positions, yet we suffer with the pure appearance that we are not care for in district three.

I heard so often on the campaign trail from many city employees that and investors that investors do not want to come in district three.

So, how does D3 rep believe he is an excellent representative for us when he can't even get business in our area?

Or the business that he gets gives us low-paying jobs.

No one is caring for our landscape, and no one is holding business owners, owners, or homeowners accountable for simple property maintenance.

These are things that we are not interested in getting everybody fined for, but yet still a strategic plan that helps residents understand how important it is to keep up their own property value so that we are not looked over and passed over by council.

It's important to us that you recognize that we need help in D3.

Downzoning is the issue, pollution is an issue, trash is your issue.

We have so many things that are being ignored.

Can somebody please pay attention?

I will be addressing at large and the mayor and you too, Tate, if I need to.

Next caller, please.

Next caller is Darren McCoy.

Caller, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning, council.

So I agree with this moratorium and data centers.

I think it's something big that affects the city in a big way.

Um it takes up a lot of land and resources.

Uh it can affect the nearby residents.

Uh, there would be unique zoning changes that would have to happen to accommodate them.

It's just so much so fast.

And uh in a similar vein, I think that the solar neighborhoods initiative happened way too fast.

It didn't have to happen so quickly, except for the tax incentives, the grant money, and it being Duggan's pet project that had to be pushed through before he left.

I mean, data centers wouldn't necessarily even involve taking private property from people in court, but the solar farms did.

And it was just it was put through way too fast.

Um, but it's been crickets since Sugman's been out.

No new condemnation cases have been filed.

Uh really wondering what's going on there.

So uh the next thing is the uh assessors border review notices.

You guys really need to fix that process.

Uh there's a deadline of March 9th that's on the back of the second page, embedded within a bunch of other text.

It's a it's the most important deadline on the entire document, and it's not in the box that says instructions on the front page.

It's so simple.

I've appealed in dozens of other counties and and communities, and the instructions are simple, and in Detroit it's not.

And I'll go there to do an appeal, and I see dozens of people walk in with questions, the same questions to make it so confusing.

And it's really a disservice to your citizens.

Thank you.

Next caller, please.

Uh, next caller is owner Papa.

The floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Good morning, and through the chair, may I be heard?

Yes.

Thank you.

Congratulations to the young Miles for his achievements and the other recipients.

But I am in agreement with Mr.

Foster, who makes a good point uh about unfinished business that we had with other people that were there.

Uh, we need uh follow-up to find out what happened and um uh maybe some reconciliation for the citizens who've been injured.

21.5 is interesting to me how you're going to take opiate money and redirect it to the RX program where you have uh no income requirements.

We have a high incidence of um African American women who have um infant mortality rates that are beyond the limits of the national uh numbers.

Um I think maybe we need to talk about addressing some of our issues as some of the people have called in and and told you today.

We seem to be ignored, especially in the 7th district, and we need a we need a representative that's going to fight for us because anytime anybody tells you that they're going to put three shelters on Grand River and Joy Road has zero.

I I think you need to stand up for the people in the aviation subdivision and in District 7.

I don't think that you are, and I think that we need uh a better representative.

Um the word tells us that uh we recognize people by what they do.

They and and when people are doing uh evil, we see your works.

Um, the Leland House, Miss Romero, those people should have the right to return.

You don't have the right to keep them from returning to their homes, nor does council nor does the council uh uh mallard have the right to tell those people they can't return to their homes.

You guys are a disgrace, and you don't represent the citizens of the city.

Next caller, please.

Our last caller is Mia.

Paul, the floor is yours.

You have two minutes, general public comment.

Yes, can I be heard?

Yes.

Okay, I'm calling again because I had a 10 lot purchase agreement since July with the Detroit Land Bank authority.

Um they fumbled the first purchase agreement one week prior to my closing.

I was finally given another purchase agreement in December.

I didn't hear anything back about a uh closing date um to find out after my digging that one of my lots is part of the dirty dirt investigation.

Um I've asked them to sell me the nine lots surrounding it.

Uh they first said that the city of Detroit legal would not allow them to sell it.

Um then once I debunked that by talking to Veronica Abram, they said that it was the demo department that was debunked.

They said they have given the DOBA no directives regarding the lots surrounding the investigated lot.

Um on a yesterday Doncast meeting, um, the demolition department did put on a presentation, and Tim Palazzalo actually said that there is no contamination known to go past the actual backfield lot.

So they have no reason that they cannot sell me these nine surrounding lots.

I've been at this for almost a year to get these parcels.

I have uh remediated the dumping in this uh space as well as cleaned out the entire alley behind these lots.

Um no one should be holding me up.

Uh I just got off the phone with Tammy Daniels because I did uh speak up at that financial meeting that they have at the exact same time as your city council meeting, and I advise of what's going on with John, and it is their defense that potentially the contamination could spread past that.

I told her Tim is saying that it's not going to go past that.

And if it is, it's his responsibility to remediate past that.

So they're holding up my entire purchase.

Uh Ms.

Waters, I did copy you on the email.

I did call your office as you instructed um last week after public comment.

And I also did uh include Mr.

Benson, he at least uh sent a message and acknowledged that he received it.

I would like some support behind this purchase agreement moving forward.

Thank you.

And that takes us to the end of our public comments.

All right, madam clerk.

Oh, I'm sorry, colleagues.

Any comment discussion?

Um, member Benson.

All right, thank you.

Just wanted to uh respond to one of my bosses uh within the third district over the last 12 years, we've seen one billion dollars in development, including residential and industrial job centers, and where we've also held polluters accountable through community um partnership agreements with the county when it comes to industrial waste uh as a request of our community.

Uh down zoning has been a is a citywide initiative that has been established by the third district.

In addition, the seed has established a code enforcement team with funding from myself last year in the budget and regarding the nine lots.

There is a concern regarding lots being used for farming when there's potential that there could be heavy contamination as a direct result of the demolition.

And so those lots are being tested prior to anything being sold.

So we understand and are on it and make sure that our residents receive proper representation at this table.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to thank the residents of district several for calling in about issues related to the library and the transit system.

Um I agree with what they said, which is why I put those issues into the executive session for our budget.

So I just wanted to express my gratitude and thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Um, Member Miller.

Good morning, everyone.

I just wanted to say that district five is always ready to take phone calls and any information.

But our first protocol is again that we receive your name, your phone number, and your address.

We need those to move forward to handle any type of concern so we can get back with you.

If you are unable to produce those things, I am so sorry if you're angry and or upset, but that is the protocol for district five because we have to continue to maintain our outcomes and metrics, which I will be reporting after our 100 days.

So if you would please be so kind to do that, we would appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

And uh for Amik, you called uh in uh previously, and I did uh want you to please give my office a call.

I did ask for you to give my office a call.

I'll give you that number again, 313 224, 1027.

That is more than likely why another my colleagues um looked out and to try to uh identify uh assistance because I asked you to reach out uh again asking you 313-224-1027, very concerned about your allegations.

Um need to give us information so that we can check it out.

Um need to give us information so that we can check it out, not just a uh social media page that we can look at, but actual opportunity to speak with you.

And I'll say for the uh Leland House.

Well, I'm not involved completely in all of the details.

Um, I do uh recognize that there are uh multiple parties involved in this now, not just the law department.

So uh I think it's imperative for all who have a hand in getting the residents um an opportunity to receive their property to sit down and make it happen expeditiously.

Um there was talk about the generator cost, but the reality is the city of Detroit has indicated the city is ready to pay that cost.

At least that's what corporation council said when he came here before.

We don't have to debate if the cost is correct or not.

City of city is going to cover it in terms of security.

Well, the sooner we can get folks in there, sooner agreement can be uh uh adhered to, the sooner we can get folks in there as well.

And um, just again looking for uh all parties who are involved who have the ability to make decisions to come to the table and make decisions on behalf of the residents getting their um the property from outside of the inside of the location.

Okay, any further colleagues?

Uh with further discussion, Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Just want to say thank you to Mr.

Jones for coming down um to speak before public comment.

We did have a discussion yesterday evening um with a number of entities, um, including 36th district court.

So we will certainly connect you with Lakeshore Legal Aid as well as um right to council to see if they can provide any additional assistance to you now that your um situation is in the courts.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Uh member Santiago.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

And just want to emphasize again that regarding Leland, it did sound like there is going to be mediation today.

So my hope is that there are solutions and that residents are able to um enter their their units quickly to be able to retrieve their things.

Um, and again, we've been pushing this since the beginning back in December.

It's taken this long, unfortunately, but I really hope that after today we we hear a plan um that'll get Leland uh residents back into their property.

So thank you.

Thank you.

No further, uh Madam Clerk, uh understanding committee reports for the budget finance and audit standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Mr.

President, that should be from the Office of the City Clerk and City Planning Commission.

Councilmember McCampbell to resolutions line items 17.1 and 17.2.

Member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, motion to approve 17.1 and 17.2.

There's a motion to approve line items 17.1 and 17.2.

Any objections?

Hearing none, that action shall be taken.

For the internal operations standing community committee from the mayor's office, madam clerk.

Council member Benson, two resolutions, line items 18.1 and 18.2.

Member Benson.

Motion to approve lines 18.1 and 18.2.

That's a motion to approve line items 18.1 and 18.2 with discussion.

Member Benson.

Uh Mr.

Chair, this is for the appointment of Carolyn Clark to the Board of Ethics, as well as Donnie Givens to the Detroit Land Bank, a mayor oral appointment.

Discussion.

Further discussion, Member Waters.

All right, so um, Mr.

President and to all of my colleagues.

Last year, this body passed a resolution that said this city council would go to the renegotiate the intergovernment agreement with the Michigan State Land Bank.

Look, vote however you want to vote, but don't ignore what has happened with this body.

Something happened and it needs to be officially acted upon.

If you don't, if you want to give all the appointments to the mayor, go right ahead.

I can't stop you.

If you want to sit back and make sure that you delinquish your own power, go right ahead and do that, council members.

But what I'm saying to you is that you're not gonna just sit here and ignore a document that I sponsor and that we passed this body passed, and you're gonna ignore it.

acted up on if you don't if you want to give all the appointments to the mayor go right ahead i can't stop you if you want to sit back and make sure that you delinquish your own power go right ahead and do that council members but what i'm saying to you is that you're not gonna just sit here and ignore a document that i sponsor and that we passed this body passed and you're gonna ignore you gotta because you know one of the things that i requested in that was the fact that some of those appointments should be made by city council you know that's one of the things that that I specifically requested but oh no if you just sit on it and there's no actions done next thing you know oh well now member waters the mayor has made all of the appointments they all live in the city of Detroit and so we don't have to do anything if that's one we don't have to act on you cannot it's a derelict of duty the fact that we are not acting that resolution was passed some months ago like I said vote however you want to but don't sit back and think you're not gonna act on because I've got to make sure that we act on it however you vote it's it's the right thing to do and it's doing the people's work and and you know when you have a body you and I'm not saying this for everybody but if you just want to give up all of your powers to the executive branch what do we need in the legislative branch that's what I'm just trying to figure out so I I don't understand.

So don't sit back and ignore the things that I've sponsored and not act on it because I'm gonna let the world know that you're not you're not doing your job you're not allowing us to do what we need to do.

You want to vote no go right ahead but don't go we are act on it at some point we've got to do that and I'm not gonna sit here and approve every mayoral appointment until we act on it discussion with discussion um and I'll just say it's unfortunate that um the way that this process is is is being handled is framed in the manner that it was just done so um there are some members I guess who believe that they're the only members who care about this issue the only members who represent this body because they're not make they may not be aware of what's happening they may not care to know about what other members are are doing I will say that I have been having conversations with uh the mayor as well as others uh as a representative of this body there was a document that was circulated that also included some of those items that my colleague just mentioned so to say that nobody's working on it that we're ignoring it I I take major offense to it maybe it's just to get applause in the room maybe it's to get applause online I don't know but that's never been communicated to me as a colleague and it always helps to have conversation with a colleague as opposed to trying to cast uh to chastise them at the council table I always operate in the spirit of cooperation uh and will continue to do so despite what some members would like to do so I'm letting the public know the discussions are being held at this moment there have been conversations that have been held um but this is a process the IGA the intergovernmental agreement is an agreement between the mayor and the state it is not one where the council is a part of that agreement that has to change in terms of the body having more say so part of that happens one within the MOU we've made discussions about addressing the MOU we don't always have to agree on the direction that we go in for this is a body and this is a body that that uh has uh where majority rules so I have not heard colleagues silent on this issue whatsoever um but I do see what it feels like to me is pandering the folks and dismissing the work that colleagues have done and will continue to do to try to address this particular issue I'll now turn to discussion member this there's discussion that's still going on next up is member Benson followed by member Johnson all right thank you and member waters we've heard you Lima Charlie and so in the internal internal ops subcommittee we was made very clear that this is a mayor appointment this is why I emphasize that we as a body have an informal agreement with the previous administration that city council would also have an appointment there has been an assignment given to LPD to write up a document to actually formalize that agreement we have received no pushback from the administration and I fully hope and I believe that that desire will be taken up by the administration where this body will be given a formal appointment to the Detroit land bank understanding that this is a passion point of yours and this body is also supported that through the years by making that appointment and so we want to ensure that that continues but we also want to make sure that that's done as that is now it will be codified and so that we will have something in writing I be it an ordinance or be some type of MOU but we are working towards that and LPD has received that assignment that is as of the interview with Miss Givens and we are fully aware that this city council wants to have a voice on that board and to have somebody who was accountable to us to bring back information which we've made appointments in the past

That is now it will be codified.

And so that we will have something in writing, be it an ordinance or be some type of MOU.

But we are working towards that an LPD has received that assignment.

That is as of the interview with Ms.

Givens.

And we are fully aware that this city council wants to have a voice on that board and to have somebody who was accountable to us to bring back information, which we've made appointments in the past, and we've not done a really good job of having anybody come back, this body with reports, with recommendations, with suggestions with our boys.

And so we're looking working at that.

We've heard you, and I do not believe I have any pushback from colleagues looking to memorialize a council vote, a council voice on the Detroit Land Bank.

So that's the that's the direction that we're moving in in a Tron operation and will continue to move in that direction unless colleagues suggest otherwise.

Thank you.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I was just going to essentially provide the information that the two of you, Member Benton and Council President has provided.

Um in PED, we did ask for all of the council members to provide their suggested amendments.

Um that has been compiled, and um now I believe it is being there are conversations as council president has indicated he has had.

And so I think we are all in support of amending the agreement.

Um there was one amendment that I suggested as well that whomever is appointed to the board of the Detroit Land Bank Authority, that they have to come back every four years after their term expires to be re-appointed, which has not happened in the past.

Um, and so I look forward to us identifying an appointment that is approved by this body.

So they represent city council.

Um, and also as member Benson indicated, having them come to this body to give updates, to give reports on on how things are going and how things are moving forward.

But we also do recognize that the mayor has appointments on the board as well.

Uh, and so as I know things are moving forward, I'm looking forward to the culmination of the suggestions that were put forward, and um just look forward to the the conversations progressing.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

And I just want to say about for the record that uh last term this council approved only a one-year extension on the MOU to allow for these discussions to take place.

Uh, we have a new mayor that was seated in January, we have a new council that has been seated in January.

This stuff takes pro takes time.

We're in the midst of budget uh right now as we speak.

So to uh member Johnson's credit, uh it is imperative that we as a body identify who we're looking to sit on that particular board.

That is a seat that we have currently, right now, as we work through the negotiations, and that seat is not empty, but that the the mayor has agreed to make a move on that individual based upon our recommendation, and as we start to look at the um pulling back the layers of the MOU as well as the IGA.

Um member Miller.

I have a question for member waters and another question afterwards.

When was your document through?

I'm sorry, through the chair of Mr.

President.

We got to speak through.

Okay, all right.

Uh when was your um ordinance voted on by this body?

Um October, November last year.

Okay.

And next question, uh Mr.

President.

Um when is the next appointment available for this body?

Now is this the only uh opening that's coming in the next four years?

So there are four members that so there are five members on the board.

Currently, four of them uh are by the uh that are mandated by the IGA or that are mayoral appointees.

One of them is an appointee of the state.

The mayor, the previous mayor had a handshake agreement with this body that said, I will allow you all to have an appointee, which is what this body did.

We identified an individual, put them forward.

That person was technically in air quotes, our appointee.

This conversation based upon the document that was compiled by Member Johnson and PED to have even more of a movement on what that looks like, having an official, not just a handshake, but an official member, if not two, uh, on that particular board.

That is what is afoot right now.

Those are discussions that are happening right now as we speak.

So you stated that so this body has one appointment right now already in existence.

Unofficially, but yes, because they are on paper in the agreement, an appointee of the mayor.

But the mayor, the former mayor said that this individual, you all select, and this will be your appointee.

So technically, yes, we do, but on paper, that is a mayoral appointee.

We're looking to change all of that.

We're in the process of doing it right now.

So how long does it take?

We can if anybody on this body would like to present someone for push put someone forward, they can replace the individual that's sitting there right now that represents the city council.

If anybody's looking to do that, that now starts that particular part of the conversation.

We're still in the process of identifying if it's going to be two members, if it's gonna whatever that number is, that's the negotiation piece because the deal uh was struck previously, and it there's no timeline on the IGA, there's no expiration.

So if the IGA that the state decides to pick up on this, they they can.

If they decide not to, that is their prerogative is with the agreement.

The IGA is not with the city of Detroit, meaning council and the mayor, it is with the mayor and the state.

That is the challenge that we have.

Discussion with further discussion, member waters, followed by member uh pro Tim Young.

All right, so see, that's the thing that that's the problem.

I I have I don't I cannot understand how I cannot understand why we say that the land bank appointments belong to the mayor.

And and believe me, people, when I say that, you all know that I've been very passionate about this issue for a while.

So it has nothing to do with who's currently sits in that seat.

Mayors come and go.

But the policy that we make here that we shake glass for very very long time, a handshake, they didn't have a handshake.

City council had to vote on whether or not we would have a land bank.

We know that it was a vote.

And the reason I know that there was a vote, because the prior, the previous city council, prior to that, that included uh the chair McPhil's and some of the others of the world, I believe uh they all turned it down.

They would not approve the the land.

That's why I need the information to see absolutely what occurred.

Because if we are saying that all everything belongs to the executive branch, then apparently this body has no power at all when it comes to that land bank.

And I don't believe that.

Otherwise, you would not have have needed to cast a vote in order for the land bank to exist.

Now that I mean, I mean I don't need a legal background to understand that.

That's just a little common sense, and I know that certain things can't be done around here on a handshake, some something as important as the land bank.

Anytime the land bank wants anything, they have to come before this body, the city council.

So now, if you're saying, if in fact you're saying it, if it turns out to be true, that oh, this body didn't act on anything previously, the mayor just took the power, the state gave all the power to the mayor.

Then why in the world was city council voting on anything as it relates to the land bank?

Because now that's gonna make it everything null and void.

That's exactly what will happen.

So I'm trying to understand because guess what, colleagues?

Prior to me, even introducing the resolution.

I had the conversation with a Michigan state land banker.

I did that first.

I did my homework up front.

And I said, What do you need from us in order to renegotiate the intergovernmental agreement?

They said we need a resolution from city council.

That is all that we need.

Now, if there's some other conversation that's been happening, and if I'm missing some information, please enlighten me because maybe I don't I don't I'm missing something in between, and I need to understand you guys that you're having conversations with this is happening, that's happening.

I don't know anything about it, frankly.

I don't so help me to understand if I'm wrong, if all this power rests with the mayor, because I don't believe it, I need you to prove it to me, how that power rests with the mayor.

So we want to you want to ask an attorney here?

Let's do it because I need to understand.

Yeah, that was that was gonna be my next move.

Mr.

Whitaker, come on up, please.

We have talked about this, there's been writings on this, and we have there's at least one member that was here when the agreement was made.

So we have um Mr.

Whitaker.

When the state allowed for the development uh or the installation of land banks, it is true that the council had to vote to allow for that to happen.

But the way the statute is written, the as President Tate has indicated, it is a an agreement that establishes the constant that that allows for the constitution of the board be between the state and the mayor.

And as he indicated, the mayor, the former mayor Duggan did permit the council to have one of his appointments to the council.

We've written about this, but we'd be happy to recirculate the whole basis of how this how the city uh elected to start a land bank.

Because as you indicated, there was quite a bit of uh disagreement on council as to whether or not they wanted to have a land bank, whether or not they wanted to have a land trust that member Watson was pushing land trust.

So it was not a unanimous vote, but ultimately the vote was to establish a land bank, and you're stuck with the way in which the state law allows it to be created.

So we could we will provide you with a historical historical development of how the city arrived at the point it is at.

But um, as we we put the most recent memo attached to the land banks um uh budget agreement so that you have that how you how you dissolve the land bank, how do you how do you make moves going forward?

And um certainly a lot of the the actions that you have now that you're taking with the land bank, approving multiple sales, et cetera, that comes about as a result of the MOU.

So that's a separate contract that this that the land bank agreed to enter into with the city that allows the city council to have some say in their organization and what they actually do, how they this how they the sell or otherwise dispose of properties.

You're doing that through the MOU.

Mr.

Witaker, can I just ask this?

So the the MOU again is with the mayor and council, as well as and the land bank, so it's not a unilateral where council can just make a move, it's not unilateral when it comes to MOU that the mayor can just make a move.

There's to be a discussion if I'm not correct.

The MOU is basically a contract, is a contract between the city, which is both branches of government, and the land bank.

So through you, Mr.

President.

So when I contacted the state, why would they say all they needed was a resolution from the city council and and we could renegotiate the IGA?

Did they not know?

I I don't I don't know what they knew, but I know that the city, the city is two branches of government.

It's the city and the mayor.

Right.

So I would imagine, you know, we we we indicated in the in one of the memos that in order to deal, you have to, in order to make any substantive moves, you must give six months notice.

A member, I'm going by memory, I think at this point, but you have to give six months notice that you want to make uh changes, and the mayor has to agree.

And once you do that, you can go about doing anything, including dissolving the land bank if if the if the city agrees to do that, but you it requires six six months notice if you're going to make that move, both branches must agree, and then you must, they must give you giving the land bank uh sufficient time to dissolve any contractual relations they have with other entities because the land bank is an ongoing concern, they need time to unwind.

They need time to unwind.

But but we we've given you that, but we will be happy to furnish that information to you again so that you have that to from which to operate.

So just one final question to you, Mr.

President.

Um you're saying that this body, the city council, has absolutely no authority to renegotiate the intergovernmental agreement based on the way that it was set up.

Is that what you're saying?

Yes, ma'am, not unilaterally.

You can't do it, you can't do it yourself.

We can't, okay.

We can't do it.

I said the mayor would have to agree to it that you're saying.

Right.

So no negotiation can be done with a Michigan State Land Bank unless the mayor agrees.

Right.

Even though she passed a resolution.

I I just want to be clear so that I so that I don't have to be you know upset about this or something, believing that we are not doing all that we need to be doing.

I'm trying to clarify.

Yes, sir.

The way that the land bank was created, it was created as a separate authority.

So it the way it states, no ordinances that you write, no resolutions that you write will have any bearing on that body.

The only link you have to control the land bank's activity is their budget and the MOE.

Those are your links.

That's it.

Okay.

All right.

No appointments, nothing.

Okay, great.

All right.

I I mean now I understand that.

I I don't know why I didn't know this before.

Thank you.

Well, further discussion, have uh approach him young followed by member Benson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Um good to see you, Ms.

Witter.

I just better see you on this though.

We're good to see you, sir.

Uh, I I just wanted to ask you, I just want to ask in general.

We still can deliberate on this though, right?

But we may not be able to actually agree, we still deliberate to discuss about this.

I think that this is the exit discussion, and we need to have more discussions about what this is.

I would also suggest, uh waters that you might want to put what you want to do in the closing resolution for your budget as well, just to be able to put that out there.

But I think we should have this discussion further.

I don't know if that I don't know if that's the special the special session or if that's a committee of the whole or something, but I think that we should really have this out because clearly we still have issues in terms of what to do, what changes to make up, what to propose, and I think we should at least have this discussion if that's something that the body wants to go or not.

And so I just want to know would that be an appropriate vehicle?

I don't, you know, I mean, Mr.

President, obviously that's up to you to make that decision, but I just think that I just want to ask first, would that be even appropriate vehicle to even do?

Mr.

President.

I I believe that most the the best that you can do for the public so they have a full understanding of what your role is with the land bank is to have the discussion that you're suggesting at the appropriate time, whether as in committee or committee of the whole.

Okay.

Uh, and if you need us to participate, we'd be happy to do so.

I've got Mr.

Mr.

Land Bank right behind he's uh he's the expert on land bank in the LPD.

But uh miss state anything.

You have some comment?

I missed it.

If there's anything else to add, because I I think thank you.

Okay.

I may through the chair.

I just wanted to there was a discussion with regard to uh the makeup of the of the board and what the actual intergovernmental agreement indicates.

Uh so I just want to make sure I brought that up so that you can actually hear what the intergovernment agreement states regarding the makeup of the board.

Please do.

Yes, it says under section 4.05, the city board, city authority board shall conduct its first meeting no later than 45 calendar days after the effective date of this amendment, provided that a quorum.

I'm sorry.

City authority shall be governed by a city authority board, a board of directors that shall be appointed within 15 days, calendars of the effective date of this amendment, except that's otherwise provided in this agreement.

Elected officials and other public officers are eligible to serve as members, city authority to the extent permitted by law, city authority board shall consist of five members appointed as follows.

Four members appointed by the mayor, notwithstanding any charter ordinance or resolution to the contrary, subject to the approval by city council.

However, if city council does not disapprove or the appointment within 30 days after submission by the mayor, the appointment is confirmed.

One member appointed by the executive director of the Michigan State Housing Development Authority.

That's the makeup of the board.

Uh, with council's uh approval.

I and also like to just indicate that at the time that this document was executed, the city of Detroit was under emergency manager control.

It was the uh emergency manager Kevin Orr who executed the document.

And that's why probably it's made up the way it is.

Thank you.

Then that those documents are not hidden.

So we have access to them as council members.

We have it.

You all have uh LPD submitted writings and provided these to us on multiple occasions.

So I would inquire or um uh invite uh colleagues to take a look at those documents, and if you would please research them today to make sure that everyone has the same information, member Benson.

All right, thank you.

This is to Mr.

Whitaker, if you can please come back.

The assignment that was given was to actually codify that position, although state law is between the mayor's office and the uh state land bank, how they how we do our land banks.

Is there anything prohibits the administration and the legislative body of having a side agreement that's actually codified that one of the or multiple board appointments come directly from city council?

Mr.

President conceptually, it would be the same as with the MoE.

You've got a uh you know, always enforceability any time you do an MOU.

The question is how what is the extent of enforcement that you get if there's deviation of the provisions?

But I think given given this mayor, uh Mayor Mayor Sheffield, I think you you're in good hands.

I doubt very seriously she would move, she would back out of something that she agreed to.

So if it's one appointment or two appointments, we will draft the language sufficiently strong to give you the best uh chance of enforcing if it became necessary to enforce.

We make sure we did that, but ultimately you're relying on her because as Mr.

Hurt indicated, the language is fairly clear that the appointing authority is the mayor.

Then just have you received the assignments from my office for this.

I believe we have, but I don't you know, given the budget and what's going on.

Uh Mr.

Hurt would be the one will be the principal author of it.

And I don't I don't remember giving that to him.

But Mr.

Whitaker, we understand there are other pressing issues before.

We'll get on it as soon as we can.

We fully expect you to.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, colleagues.

Any further?

Thank you so much.

There's a motion for approval line items 18.1 and 18.2.

Any objections?

See none, then action shall be I'm sorry.

Objection for both 18.3.

We're on 18.1 and two.

Which one is Donna Givens?

Uh Donna Givens on my um agenda is 18.2.

18.2.

Okay.

No on 18.2.

Showing one no from member waters on line item 18.2.

The motion shall be approved.

From the office of contracting and procurement, madam clerk.

Council member Benson.

Three resolutions, line items 18.3 through 18.5, noting that line item 18.4 and 18.5 are administrative approved approvals.

Line item 18.3, contract number 6007636, 100% grant funding to provide community outreach for eligible residents experiencing housing instability and or facing eviction proceedings.

Contractor, Detroit People's Community Total Contract Amount, 17,000.

That's for law.

Council Member Benson, three resolutions.

Motion to approve.

Member Benson, motion to approve line items 18.3 through 18.5.

Colleagues, any objections?

Objection to 18.4, 18.5.

Colleagues, please state your name.

Yes, ma'am.

Colleagues, please state your name if there are any objections.

Um McCampbell objection to 18.4 and 18.5.

Thank you.

Showing the objections by member um McCampbell.

The motion shall be approved.

From the law department, Madam Clerk.

Councilmember Benson, a resolution line item 18.6.

Member Benson, line item 18.6, sir.

Motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve line item 18.6 colleagues.

Any objections?

Say none.

That action shall be taken.

Madam Clerk under resolutions.

Councilmember Benson, the resolution line item 18.7.

Member Benson.

Motion to approve discussion.

There's a motion to approve line item 18.7 with discussion.

Member Benson.

All right, thank you.

Colleagues, so I've I've conferred with the law department.

Do not have an issue with removing privilege.

And I really want to remove privilege here so that we can openly have the discussion about moving the Detroit Public Library forward with the ability to assume and take out bond debt.

And this opinion will give part of the pathway of how the Detroit Public Library can be supported for a large scale capital investment, a necessary capital investment utilizing bond debt and who has the authority to take that off.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I urge your support.

Thank you.

With further discussion, we have pro Chim Young.

This is just to remove the privilege.

This is not to put this not to grant the power.

Because I have some discussion of why we're even doing that because the law says they can do this by themselves.

So it's kind of a no brain.

But we're just, we're just we're just removing privilege, right?

Correct.

So okay.

All right.

I just want to see what you would do, right?

All right.

All right, I'll see that you was right.

I see you paid attention.

All right, thank you.

Thank you.

Colleagues, there's a motion again to approve line item 18.7.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken.

Discussion uh with further discussion, member Benson.

And I strongly encourage all my colleagues to read that opinion on who actually has authority to take on bond debt for Detroit Public Library.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Under resolutions, madam clerk.

Council Member Benson, a resolution.

Line item 18.8.

Um line item 18.8, Member Benson.

Move to approve discussion.

There's a motion to approve with discussion.

Member Benson.

I was opening up for discussion, my colleagues.

Yep.

So I'll take the first stab at it.

I would I would like for us to uh either send this back to committee or postpone it to allow us to have a conversation about data centers.

We have not, as a body, even ventured into.

I uh I don't believe uh in full detail full discussion so that the public will understand why this request is being made.

Um while the jury is still out, there's some municipalities who have uh supported the economic um opportunities.

There's other communities who have deplored the environmental challenges that come about as a result of these AI uh data centers or data centers in particular.

And so I would prefer that we have uh, especially if we're talking about a two-year moratorium on something of this nature.

Um, while we're constantly trying to identify ways to increase our uh revenues in the city, but also being mindful of uh environmental concerns, at least at the minimum, we as a body have a discussion uh about the pros, cons, and what other municipalities have experienced um having these data centers um in advance.

So that would just be my request.

Discussion with further discussion, member Benson.

Um, through yourself, if Mr.

Todd can just approach and give feedback on position that's been taken by CPC.

I want to make it clear, I am neither pro con.

What I want to do is ensure that we as a city provide protections and establish the rules of the road for data centers in any iteration, and those are rules we don't currently have on the books now.

But what we have found is that municipalities that don't proactively protect themselves can often find themselves in a very poor position where their residents are unwittingly and the city unwittingly become um have a corporate citizen who is not the best uh citizen and doesn't have the proper regulation.

So I'm just looking for is the ability of the city prior to a data setter coming in to set up the rules of the road, which is a public process, which all members here would be um part of.

So I do not oppose a uh bring back the larger discussion, but I do want to make sure all the colleagues understand the conversations that have been had and are being had around this very sensitive issue.

Ms.

Director Todd.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Uh good afternoon to you and members of this honorable body.

Uh, very briefly, uh, we have certainly at the planning commission and elsewhere within the administration been quite concerned as we've seen what has been taking place uh here around the state and elsewhere around the region and the nation when it comes to this issue.

We recognize that at present our zoning ordinance does not have any specific regulation for such facilities.

At present, uh what is allowed and what does exist in the city exists based in essence on uh legacy, if you will, where switching or transformer stations of DTE or ATT, uh, as they have evolved that technology, uh, are in essence operating what amounts to data centers, not of the sort that we're talking about and that we see as such a topic nationwide when it comes to AI data centers, these uh very large-scale facilities uh that um uh again are uh such a drain on area uh resources and infrastructure.

So uh we have been following this.

We're looking to tour facilities.

We've been again talking to our colleagues in the other agencies.

There was a meeting convened by the Building and Safety Engineering Department back on Friday, February 6th, uh with uh the jobs and economy team representatives, PDD, I believe law department, and maybe another agency along with us.

And I mentioned at that point in time a desire to uh do as this honorable body, as the city has done in the past, and uh uh advance a request for a moratorium in order to give the city the opportunity to do the necessary research and advance the appropriate changes to the zoning ordinance or other parts of the city code.

Uh, we subsequently did have a discussion with the city planning commission two weeks ago, uh, this coming Thursday at its last meeting.

And uh at that point in time, they did indeed support making uh the request uh concurrent with what uh member Benson had requested at the time.

So we would certainly be more than happy to uh join in and support any discussion uh on this matter.

There will certainly be a forthcoming document from the planning commission.

Uh Mr.

Vizzini has actually prepared a PowerPoint, which was presented to the commission then, so we'd be more than happy to share it with the body.

And we will look to see if the PowerPoint that the administration had prepared that we viewed on February 6th would also be available at that time.

So we'd be more than happy to get involved.

Again, we're just looking to, as uh councilmember Benson indicated, follow the same sort of process that's been followed in the past, where there is a use or an industry coming into the city that we feel uh we don't feel that our zoning ordinance adequately addresses in order to ensure that we are indeed protecting the health, safety, and welfare of the public.

So, Mr.

Todd, just a quick question why two years?

Because that's a pretty long time.

It shouldn't take us two years to investigate this particular issue.

What two years right off the bat?

Certainly, Mr.

President.

Uh the commission did discuss the time frame.

Typically, moratorium would be requested uh for a six to one year period based upon the scale, the uh you know, a normity of the undertaking.

If we're uh talking about what this honorable body addressed a few years ago when it came to changes to the auto-oriented uses and uh junkyards and those things, we started off with, I believe, a six-month moratorium, then it went to a year.

I believe all total, there was almost three years of consecutive moratorium, not a single one, as we were advancing that effort until we were finally able to come forward with an ordinance.

So uh certainly uh something that uh uh maybe uh a resolution that maybe requested something more in the in the range of a six month to a year would probably be appropriate, giving us the opportunity to do that initial research, tour facilities, and then begin to draft the the document.

Um I might also suggest I did note and did uh didn't catch this earlier, uh, where the reso should probably make some specific reference also to the zoning ordinance.

So we should uh we so there are a couple things that we could do, both in terms of it in terms of the duration as you note, and then also making specific reference to the zoning ordinance.

Okay, thank you.

Um Pro Tim Young.

Thank you.

Um good to see you, sir.

And not that I don't want to see you, but I will also think that we bring somebody from do it here that's in as well.

And I would be okay with this with rules of the road if we're actually here to make policy.

Now, this is just event session, I don't know what this is.

You know, there's apps for that.

You can go look that up and read about this.

But if we're all gonna sit down and have a serious conversation about data centers, I also think we need to talk about reforms, whether that's closed loop cooling systems, whether that's hydrogen, whether that's you know, wind, solar, geothermal, you know, sodium ion batteries for energy, these are performs that we can pass, you know, ultra-pure water that you're gonna need in order to do that.

Also, we have to make sure that any energy increases that take place, that data center is on the hook for paying that.

So does it come over to the rest of the citizens?

So there's things that we could do, you know what I'm saying?

Bioswells and groundwater, things that they should catch it to protect people.

But if we're gonna meet, and I have no problem with that, I would like it to be solution oriented.

You know, this is just event session, you know.

I love you, but you can do that on your own time.

You know, if we're gonna meet about this, we need to actually talk about solutions and what to do.

And it seems like we also need to start.

I think it's I don't know if there's an ordinance that needs to be passed for this or a company this or something, whether we need to work with the administration or a resolution, also needs to be some language that Member Vincent was saying.

And I know he's been very um adamant and a champion for you know, um, for clean energy for a very long time.

There's the real opportunity to be able to do that and build the apparatus or carbon capture and other things if we do it right.

So that's that's just my primary goal.

We're gonna meet, we're gonna do this.

Let's do this in the solution-oriented uh pathway.

Thank you.

Thank you, Member McCamp.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I would say um I I'm in support of this moratorium and the support of the two years um to your point, uh, to the point of the pro tem.

As we are seeing many of these projects come to municipalities, they aren't able to have that conversation about how we want or if we want data centers to look in a certain way.

Um, and I just feel that we would be caught off guard if we're not actively providing that space to have those conversations uh moving forward.

So I just wanted to note that because as we're seeing data centers in their form right now, it is not um, in my opinion, beneficial to uh communities and is very extractive um in various ways.

And also, as we're dealing with um affordability crisis with uh our utility here, um, I I don't want to add that burden um even more onto our residence.

So just want to express my support for this uh moratorium.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Member Johnson, for the mistake.

Mr.

Chair, um I just wanted to say ditto to what member McCampbell said.

Um, but I do want to ask my colleague, uh Member Benson, if I can join him on the resolution.

And the reason I ask is because there has been a proposal submitted for a data center in district four.

Um, as we recognize we don't know the environmental impact of data centers, I am in support of a two-year moratorium to allow us to do the research.

I think there are cases throughout the country that we could probably look to, perhaps some that are significantly larger than the one that was proposed in district four, but I do note the area um where the proposal was provided to the city.

Um, and I just I certainly don't think it is the best use of that particular land.

Um, but noting that we there are so many question marks as it relates to data centers.

I question um while many people support the construction jobs, I question the jobs after the facility is in place.

Um, and the economic impact, the benefit that it truly has to the city from a long-term perspective.

I'm not certain that there are a significant number of jobs that would even be offered to uh residents in the city of Detroit.

So um, member Benson, my uh request is if I might be able to join you on the requisition.

More the merrier.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

All right, we'll go through the rest of the motions and join it after we go through the questions.

Um member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I am in agreement with my colleagues on the moratorium.

I have a lot of concerns of the environmental impact and wholeheartedly agree um the results that we're seeing for for jobs after the facts.

Um, I think could be more.

Uh so to allow us the time to do our research to make sure that we uh do this well if we decide to do so, it needs to make sense for our city for our environment and for Detroiters.

Um, so member Benson, thank you.

Um, I wholeheartedly agree that we need the time to do this right, or to decide that it's not something that we need to do here in the city.

Uh, we have a lot of opportunities, we have a lot of lands.

Um, I think that we can be creative about what we do with that um and appreciate uh these efforts.

Thank you.

Member Waters, followed by Pro Tim Young.

Oh, I I just want to um say that I have some concerns myself if we're talking about environmental water, all noise, all kinds of issues that these data centers can bring.

And then they want to start over in district four.

But there are already a whole lot of issues, Celantis, plant, olders, and so forth.

I mean, that that that that you know, I'm concerned.

I'm very much concerned.

So uh I wanted to make sure that the record reflected my concerns.

Thank you, Ms.

President.

Thank you.

Uh Pro Tim Young.

Yeah, I just want to say that I I'm opposed.

I mean, you know, I I and I'm sorry to make that clear at first.

I mean, listen, I understand you want to research.

I just don't think we need two years.

They gotta ask for that.

You know, then you can go on chat GPT and figure out this information in two minutes.

So I don't think we need two years to be able to research what this is, and that's me how I know.

So I think we could do this in a in a in a prior way.

You can draw language to be able to do this faster.

I just think that I'm not saying that we shouldn't have a period, but two years I think is too long.

I don't think we don't need that.

I think that we can get in the room and figure this out, research and do what we need to do.

There are actually technology believing the 21st century, let's act like it.

I just don't think we need two years to be able to do this.

I am I mean personally, I support data centers, but there are environmental concerns, and we do need to address that.

I'm not saying that the issues are real, they are real.

I have my own opinions, technology, how we should be able to deal with that, and I think the infrastructure that we can build around that in terms of environmental sustainability, I think it'd be transformative.

You know, if you combine it with artificial intelligence, but um you you know, but I you know, again, I just I'm not saying we don't need it, but two years, I just think that's too long.

Thank you.

So I'm I am opposed to as to answer.

You want to alter the motion for the time change?

No.

Okay.

Uh member Miller.

Member Miller.

Okay, thank you.

Um, President Tate.

Uh uh.

You sure you don't want to make a motion to with the time frame?

I agree with you.

We don't think they want to do anything, but maybe they do.

I'm just waiting for you.

I don't have I'm new to this, so my thing is I'm not sure if the community would even want to sit in their neighborhood.

I have to talk to my constituents before I can even chime in on that, because that is something that I cannot speak on and then get hammered on the phone and emails.

I'm already 300 behind, and I just wanted to stick a stance to my district five uh residents.

I am waiting to hear from you.

Thank you very much.

All right, thank you.

So I I'm not in opposition.

The issue is two years to make a determination.

Some of what member uh pro tem said.

Uh, and and I would just ask, sounds like I don't have a support, but I'm just gonna ask for it anyway, might as well on the limb anyway, right now, right?

Is there anyone who uh would like to move to uh amend the time frame for one from a two-year moratorium to a one-year moratorium to allow us, and if needed, then we extend um discussion on the motion.

I I can't make a motion.

Okay, motion move to one year discussion.

All right, there's a motion with discussion, member to the chair to the law department, the process for a moratorium.

And this is a resolution urging a moratorium.

This is not a moratorium being established.

I just want to make sure we're all clear on what the actual process is for moratorium, and who is the ultimate arbiter of the moratorium.

Through the chair, uh I will yield to uh Mr.

Anderson as necessary.

We did uh just briefly discuss this.

One of the reasons why we express the concern about the two years is that we do think that a two-year would certainly be the sort that the industry would come back to the city and say that is not best practice, that's not consistent, and that in and of itself would be an exposure to that end.

That's why we said uh as I said earlier, a six-month to one year uh moratorium is more typical.

It's certainly in line with what we've done in the past, and as we've also done in the past, if need be, those moratorium can be extended once we uh determine uh what the next course is as the research is done and we're able to report out.

So uh I'm certainly uh making the request as member Benson said ultimately it will be up to the administration to determine what it wants to put forward, and I am sure the law department would be very much involved in the crafting of such a document.

Mr.

Chair, that's absolutely correct, Graham Anderson Law Department.

I just wanted to uh give my deference to the director here who's the expert in this field.

Thank you.

Discussion, further discussion, Mr.

Vincent.

And and so while the the resolution is for two years, I do understand that that may cause a we may not want to kick that sleeping dog.

Let's give ourselves the opportunity to protect ourselves, not have to go into litigation.

The ultimate arbiter is going to be the executive.

So I believe they will hear us, Lima Charlie, loud and clear on what we're looking to do and our concerns, and we can also, or she can also extend that moratorium as has been done in the past.

And so our colleagues here are speaking loud and clear about what we want and why we want it.

And I do believe that that would be taken into account on the 11th floor.

Thank you.

So I'm not opposed to a minor modification of two to one.

Although I'm also hearing Lima Charlie from my colleagues that two is what people want and are okay with.

Okay.

Yeah, what well, okay.

I I'm okay uh with two, you know, whatever the whole body decides.

But I do want to read this message from Member Callaway.

She says, please let Member Benson know I'm watching, and I want to join him on.

And I want to join him on his resolution.

Further discussion.

I want it to be known that Member Waters has stole my thunder.

That was a message to read.

But I appreciate the fact that we have such consensus around the need to regulate the potential for data centers here in the city of Detroit.

And I appreciate my colleague who is calling in from afar and letting us know that she is engaged and watching this process.

Thank you to member with Phil Calloway.

Thank you to joining on that resolution as well.

Once it passes, thank you.

It's gonna be Mr.

Woodaker, then we're gonna have pro Tim Young, then we're gonna go to vote.

It is it really isn't proper for her discussion because she is remote, and you're not permitted to have that type of remote um discussion with a colleague that's not in the room.

But it's what's done is done.

Pro Tim Young, then we shall go to a vote.

Well, I'm I'm thankful for that rule, Mr.

Whitaker, because I thought that whole process was kind of creepy, quite frankly.

Uh I I I yeah, I thought it would be minutes in there.

Uh, I just wanted to say um I don't support this at all.

I just want to be clear, but I'm willing to go along again.

I don't support the moratorium at all.

I think that the response to this is legislation and laws, which is our job, and I think that we should like go do it, but I'm willing to have one year.

So that's all I just want to make that clear.

Like don't if I have my brothers, I would not vote for this because I don't support this.

All right.

Thank you.

All right, colleagues.

There's a motion on the floor to amend the resolution from a one-year, excuse me, a two-year moratorium to a one-year moratorium.

Any objections?

Objection, member Johnson, member Santiago Romero.

Member McCamp.

Objection.

Scott Benson, city council.

Oh Waters.

McCampbell.

We did.

We said our meetings.

Thank you.

So the motion fails.

There's an original motion on the floor, colleagues, for a two-year moratorium.

Any objections?

Objection.

Oh, sorry, objection.

Uh call the young president pro tem right.

An objection.

And again, on the basis of the one year versus two year.

That action shall be taken.

Under resolutions, madam clerk.

Council President Pro Tim Young or resolution, noting that this line item was postponed from last week's formal session agenda.

Line item 18.9.

Thank you.

Uh line item 18.9 pro Tim Young.

Thank you.

Uh Mr.

President.

There's some things that we have to change, things we have to make up.

So can I ask for a postponement for one week on line on 18.9?

The request for a one-week motion, excuse me, for a one-week uh postponing on line item 18.9 colleagues.

Any objections?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

For the planning and economic development standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Madam Clerk.

Council Member Johnson, a resolution line item 19.1, contract number 6007 three five five-a-one.

100% city funding.

Amendment one to provide an increase of funds to include rights of counsel and cam hotline, contractor Wayne Metropolitan Community Agency Action Agency, total contract amount, 1,304,000.

That's for housing and revitalization.

Line of No need also that this line item was postponed from last week's formal session.

Council member Johnson, a resolution.

Thank you.

Line item 19.1 member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move to remove line item 19.1, noting that the administration is requesting the removal to submit at a to resubmit at a later date.

Thank you so much.

There's a motion to remove line item 19.1.

Any objections?

Discussion with discussion.

Amember Benson.

Through yourself to Member Johnson.

Can you just elaborate on that?

Why are we?

Through the chair.

Uh to member Benson.

The information I received indicated that they are working through additional logistics regarding the amendment.

Um, the implementation of the right to council into the hotline uh is slated to be part of the fiscal year 27 implementation.

All right, thank you.

Colleagues, there was a motion to uh remove line item 19.1 from the agenda.

Any objections?

See none that action shall be taken from the city planning commission, madam clerk.

Council member Johnson in introduction of an ordinance, line item 19.2.

Member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I move that the ordinance be read twice by title, order printed and laid on the table.

There's a motion to approve line item 19.2.

Colleagues, any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

From the city planning commission, madam clerk.

Council member Johnson, a resolution set in a public hearing.

Line item 19.3.

Line item 19.3 member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Move for approval for a day to be determined.

There's a motion to approve line item 19.3 for day to be determined.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

From the planning and development department, madam clerk.

Councilmember Johnson, a resolution line item 19.4.

Line item 19.4, member Johnson.

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman for approval.

There's a motion to approve line item 19.4.

Any objections, colleagues?

See none.

That action shall be taken.

Mr.

Chair.

Member Johnson.

Um, I'd like to request a waiver on line item 18.2.

There's a request for a waiver on line item 18.2.

That is the appointment of Donna Gibbons Davidson to the Detroit Land Bank Authorities Board.

Noting that two board members from the previous from the previous administration are no longer on the board, and they are not able to move forward with meetings because they will not have a quorum.

All right, there's a request for a waiver on line item 18.2.

Any objections?

Objection.

Seeing that there is an objection, a waiver shall not be attached.

For the public health and safety standing committee from the Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Council Member Santiago Romero, 15 resolutions, line item 20.1 through 20.415.

Noting that line items 20.1 through 20.13 are all for construction and demolition.

Contract number 3087855, 100% by funding to provide emergency residential demolition of 8863-8890 8899-8905 and 8919 Woodmont.

Contractor inner city contracting.

Total contract amount 50,000.

Contract number 3089514, 100% bond funding to provide emergency residential demolition at 4936.

Martin Contractor Salabine Trucking and Excavating Incorporated.

Total contract amount 21,715.

Contract number 3089356, 100% bond funding to provide emergency residential demolition at 11606 Broad Street.

Contractor inner city contracting, total contract amount 19,400.

Contract number 3089519, 100% bond funding to provide emergency residential demolition at 8150 Medina.

Contractor inner city contracting, total contract amount 26,444.

Contract number 3089523, 100% bond funding to provide emergency residential demolition at 14720.

Total contract amount 17,536 dollars.

Line item 20.6 contract number 3089525, 100% bond funding to provide emergency commercial demolition at 17130 SHIELS.

Contractor inner city contracting total contract amount 17,250.

Contract number 3089526, 100% bond funding to provide emergency commercial alteration of 1399.

Mitchell Contractor, Salabine, Trucking and Excavating Incorporated.

Total contract amount 17,118.

Contract number 3090164, 100% blight funding to provide emergency commercial alteration of 15801 Livernoy Contractor Inner City contracting total contract amount 127,500.

Contract number 3090580, 100% blight funding to provide emergency commercial demolition of 3037 Jerome Contractor Intercity contracting total contract amount 34,530.

Contract number 3090622, 100% blight funding to provide emergency commercial demolition at 11351.

DMC Consultants Incorporated Total Contract Amount 99,428.

Line item 20.11, contract number 3089500, 100% bond funding to provide emergency residential demolition at 2016 contractor, salabine trucking and excavating incorporated total contract amount $16,863.

Contract number 3089962, 100% bond funding to provide emergency residential demolition, 14632 Dolphin contractor, inner city contracting, total contract amount 19,500.

Contract number 3090188, 100% blight funding to provide emergency commercial demolition of 8400 West burner contractor inner city contracting.

Total contract amount 148,500.

Contract number 600708, 100% city funding to provide stainless steel strapping seals, brackets, and other hardware for DPW traffic sign shop contractor, Dinah Engineering Limited.

Total contract amount 167,220.

That's for public works.

And last contract is a planning schedule.

The total maximum order limitation of 81,300,000.

Council member Santiago Romero, 15 resolutions.

Thank you so much.

Member Santiago Romero.

Line items 20.1 through 20.15 now.

Motion to approve 20.1 through 20.14.

There's a motion to approve line items 20.1 through 20.14.

Uh with discussion, please.

Thank you.

So looking for uh someone to join us online, line item 20.12.

Uh, it is uh in district one.

We always go and look at the the properties when they come before us.

The sidewalk is uh all cracked up, and it was cracked up as a result of the um demolition and just need uh to hear verbally what the plan is to address uh that uh issue.

Mr.

Washington, if you have anyone available, please.

Yes, good afternoon through the chair.

We do have Roquel Harrington online.

Thank you.

We'll port her over.

Good afternoon, ma'am.

Please take your name for the record.

All right, thank you for being here.

I know line item 20 uh.12, and I believe that uh your team and my team has been in discussion, just want to uh get it uh out in the sunlight, so to speak.

What is the plan for uh repair for the sidewalk?

Um for line item 20.12.

I'm just calling up my notes.

It's the one on Dolphin Street.

So um I want to find when it comes to the actual time.

Your audio is going in and out.

You might want to get a little closer to the mic.

Can you hear me now?

Yes, much better.

All right, so through the chair.

Um, I would defer to BC to about the exact timeline because that property right now is considered in winter grade, and we have to wait for that whole process.

So when it's in final grade, but because of the demolition happened in November.

Let me make sure.

I'm sorry.

So demolitions completed before September are typically repaired within the same year.

Um, while demolitions completed in September or later, they're repaired by June 30th.

So that is on our timeline for June 30th, and that one is prioritized on the list for that specific contractor uh to handle the sitewacks, the sidewalk cracks that happened during that demolition process.

Okay, and so are they paid in full?

No.

Great question through the chair.

So the way it works is their contract is not complete until those sidewalks are repaired to receive that final payment.

So they are not paid in full until that final there they don't receive that final payment until the sidewalk repairs are made.

Okay.

And then last question is how do you determine what that remaining remaining uh sidewalk payment is or the payment for the sidewalk?

The remainder of the contract uh for that particular location, the portion of the the sidewalk that's not completed.

How do you determine what that amount is?

Through the chair, that's all done within their contract.

Um so I will get that information to you in writing, because I don't want to misspeak, but um it's all laid out in their contract to a specific line um when those repairs are made.

So I will make sure my team gets something over to you in writing with that um what that specific amount is um for that specific property as well.

We'll pull that information for you.

Okay, and again, just for the record, we're giving them how long to repair this sidewalk.

So it's once through the chair.

So the whole process is once it is uh deemed to get out of winter grade, and we end up in that final grade.

So that is determined by B seed, and then our department works with DPW um to start those sidewalk repairs.

Um, but typically that will be done by June 30th.

Okay, thank you so much, Ms.

Harrington.

Colleagues, any further?

See none.

You do have a question.

Member Miller.

I have a question about 20.14.

I noticed that we're not only not staying in the state, but we're in Canada.

We're we're seeking services out of another country now.

And someone is that the only can someone answer that question, please.

Where are we going to Canada?

Another country when really trying to stay within our city and not even our state.

Ms.

Harrington, you did you get the question?

Oh, I'm sorry, that's not that's not her.

Uh Mr.

Washington.

Through the chair, if we can promote Director Brunditch as well as the Andre Berry from procurement.

All right, we can promote those two individuals, please.

Which line item we're speaking to?

2020.

All right, uh, asking those two individuals to accept the promotion, please.

Accept the promotion.

Through the chair, yes, yes, sir.

I do see Mr.

Barry has his hand raised.

Promotion, Mr.

Barry.

Good day.

Good afternoon, DeAndre Barry.

Um Contract and Procurement Manager, Office of Contracting and Procurement.

Thank you so much.

Uh member Miller.

See.

Hi, Mr.

Barry.

How are you this afternoon?

I'm all I am good.

I have a question regarding 20.14 that we're receiving 100% uh city funding for parts for stainless steel strapping out of Canada.

And I was just wondering why we try to actually stay within our city and not even our country at this time.

Uh was this the only one?

Or this was put out to bid, and we only received three responses.

One was a no-bed, one was a company out of Southfield, and one was the incumbent who is on this contract now.

Um, and the comment also uh this year versus last year, uh, is we're gonna uh receive a 23,000 dollar savings as well.

But we did put this out to bed, but unfortunately, we only got three responses.

Are we responsible for the tariffs on this product here just come into our country?

Can you repeat the question, please?

Yes, I was saying um how much of this or are we responsible for the terrorists that we have to pay to bring this into our country?

Oh no, no, ma'am.

Um the pricing is all inclusive.

And we just could not use the Southfield bid at all.

Right here around the corner.

It was that drastic of a change regarding the bid.

Well, it represents our 23,000 savings.

Okay, thank you, Mr.

Barry.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

Felicity, any further?

There's a motion to approve line items 20.1 through 20.

Uh 14.

Seeing no objections.

That action shall be taken.

Member Santiago Romero.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Motion to approve 20.15.

There's a motion to approve line item 20.15.

Colleagues, any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

From the Department of Public Works, City Engineering Division, Madam Clerk.

Council Member Santiago Romero, three resolutions, line items 20.16 through 20.18.

Member Santiago Romero.

Motion to approve.

These are all various petitions for easements, excuse me, for vacations.

Motion to approve line items 20.16 through 20.18.

Any objections?

Seeing none, that action shall be taken.

We'll now move to the new business portion of the agenda from the mayor's office.

Council President Pro Tim Young for resolutions.

Line items 21.1 through 21.4.

Tim Young.

Thank you, Ms.

President.

These are various events.

Uh I move to approve line items 21.1 through 21.4.

Alexis motion on the four floor for approval.

Any objections?

Seeing none, then action shall be taken.

From the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Madam Clerk.

Council Member Santiago Romero, six resolutions, line items 21.5 through 21.10.

Contract number 6007651, 100% city slash opioid settlement funding to provide administration of prescription kids program.

Contractor Michigan State University.

Total contract amount 1 million 500,000.

That's for health.

Contract number 6007663, 100% grant funding to provide a program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and supportive services for persons living with HIV in the Detroit eligible metropolitan area.

Contractor Henry Ford Health System.

Total contract amount 4,326, 180.53.

That's for health.

Contract number 60070, 100% grant funding to provide service for ending the HIV epidemic, a plan for America, Ryan White HIV AIDS program, WSU Horizons, Contractor Wayne State University, total contract amount 428, 361 cent.

That's for health.

Contract number 6007668, 100% grant funding to provide a program administrator for coordinating and managing medical and supportive services for persons living with HIV in the Detroit eligible metropolitan area.

Contract number 600718, 100% grant funding to provide women, infant and children with services, contract Arab American and Caldean Council.

Total contract amount 3 million 21,041 dollars.

That's for health.

Contract number 600726, 100% city funding to provide light duty vehicle truck repair and maintenance services.

Contractor Carrie Brothers Truck Repair Incorporated.

Total contract amount 60,000.

That's for transportation.

Council member Santiago Romero, six resolutions.

Thank you.

Motion to approve 21.5 through 21.10.

Colleges a motion to approve line items 21.5 through 21.10.

Any objections?

See none, that action shall be taken.

Request a waiver, Mr.

President, on all items.10.

Any objections?

See none.

Waivers shall be attached.

Of the Office of Contracting and Procurement, Madam Clerk.

Council President Pro Tim Young.

Seven resolutions, noting that line items 21.11 through 21.17 were all postponed from last week's formal session agenda.

Also noting that all contracts are for the general services department.

Contract number 6007609, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal.

Contract a robles tree services, total contract amount 3 million.

Contract number 6007610, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal services.

Contractor PPM tree service and armor care LLC, total contract amount, 2 million.

Contract number 6007611, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal services.

Contractor Owen Tree Service Incorporated, total contract amount, two million.

Contract number 6007612, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal.

Contractor, Rainbow Law and Tree Service, LLC.

Total contract amount 3 million.

Contract number 6007614, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal services.

Contractor, tree service of Troy, LLC.

Total contract amount 3 million.

Contract number 6007607, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal.

Contractor, graze outdoor services.

Total contract amount 3 million.

Contract number 600 7615, 100% major street funding to provide tree trimming and removal services.

Contractor Green Street Tree Care.

Total contract amount 2 million.

Council President Pro Tim Young, seven resolutions.

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I move to approve line items 21.11 through 21.17.11 through 21.17.

Any objections?

With discussion, member McCampbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, I just want to know I will support the contracts, but I want to know because there is a great need, especially in District 7 for a tree trimmer and tree removal.

Um, but I do want to know and stress as I talk to the administration um about as we go through these contracts over the next three years.

Um earnest um being earnest and working towards bringing some of this in the house, and I'm happy to be um someone to help push for that at the council table and we can have further discussion on the budget here.

Um, so I just want to note that and and um make sure that we're getting as many Detroiters on these contracts as well.

So thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

Thank you.

Any further uh member Johnson?

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um so I will be in objection to those the contracts that are not vendors that are in the city of Detroit.

I have a difficult time believing that folks are going to bring heavy equipment into the city of Detroit on a weekly basis to address these trees.

I do believe there are additional city vendors that can do the work.

I do know uh the number of trees that are yet to be addressed, but I do think that um we can do this differently if we are not bringing it in-house.

Um, I think there are more Detroit-based contractors that can do the work, so I will be in objection to those that are vendors based outside of this city.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

I see any further hands.

Oh, member Miller, sorry.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

I want to first thank um Pro Tim Young for bringing the discussion to the table and presenting the video that we were able to see from the forestry department, and they were able to answer all of our questions regarding the I believe 30 million dollars that goes out for the tree trimming.

I would also thank uh member Benson for adding some additional funds and discussion for the forestry department, uh, that we might be able to bring training in and provide jobs for Detroiters.

It is my only one claim that we continue to provide work within our city and be able to track our dollars as we hire people that's outside the city.

They do not spend money within our city, and we continue to lose those funds, and it is not 100% proven to me that they hire Detroiters to the percentage that we need them to.

So I have very intention on voting no on the five contracts under 21.1, uh 20.12, 13, 15, 16, and 17.

I believe that we can find services within Detroit and do not have to provide work for people that lives in Ithaca, Garden City, Dexter, and or Troy, Michigan.

It is our job to facilitate our own bids.

And I believe that we could all join in and help that department secure those jobs for the citizens and of Detroit.

And I look forward to bringing in contractors right here in this city.

There is so many Detroiters that have tree services, grass services that are underutilized.

And I believe that when it comes to procurement, we have to meet them where they are, so we can get the job done within the city of Detroit.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any further colleagues?

Are there any objections?

Again, we're discussing line items 2011 through 21.7.

21.11 through 21.17.

Objection, member Johnson, 21.12, 21.13, 21.15, 21.16, and 21.17.

Thank you.

Tate objects, line items 21.13 and 21.17.

Any further hearing none.

Mr.

President, I have those, but could um council member Miller repeat her because I don't yes, she mentioned it in her conversation, but I didn't hear her um reject at this point during the motion.

Okay, thank you.

You're in your vote.

Okay.

Okay.

All right, thank you very much.

Member Miller.

Uh any uh what objections do you have?

I object to 21.12, 21.13, 21.15, 21.16, and 21.17.

All outside of the city of Detroit.

Thank you.

Madam Clerk.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Those motions passed those items shall be approved.

Um Madam Clerk, I do believe that we have four walk-ons.

Yes, we do, Mr.

President.

Um, before we go for uh member Benson, although it may be futile.

Request a waiver on line of 21.11 to 21.17.

Uh objection.

Okay.

Maybe future.

Yes, sir.

I should have thought it.

All right, madam clerk.

Now we have uh four resolutions.

Uh one from one uh resolution amending the appointments to the uh simcoff, southeastern Michigan Council of Government's board.

We also have uh a resolution um honoring Miles Dansler, that was from today.

That's member waters.

We also have member waters uh resolution honoring von Z Whitlow and uh also member waters and finally from member waters' resolution honoring the life and legacy of John Richard Sievet the third uh with uh is there a motion, Polly?

Oh, with discussion, just discussion.

Um just looking at the resolution, amending the appointments to STEM COG, just looking for what's the initiation of this and the concern about some of the language in this resolution.

Yeah, so thank you.

Uh thought that maybe our teams would have had a conversation by the bylaws that indicates that the president and pro tem uh have to be the two members um appointed.

Um that was not the desire of the president and the body.

Uh so that uh we wanted to ensure that the two members that we initially placed on as the as the uh members that were appointed will still sit as the alternative alternates, but believe me when I tell you there's no desire for the president on this pro to discussion, yes, sir.

The bylaw city council rules, no sir.

SIMCOC.

Who just is for the discussion?

I've reviewed those today.

That's not what they say.

It doesn't require the president or the pro tem.

It requires that we have those positions voted on by this body, but it doesn't mandate that it be the president or the pro-temps.

And I can I'm more than happy to show those.

Yeah, no, no, what we'll do is we'll postpone them because I I thought the same, but again, speaking with members of SIM COG as well, it was indicated that this was desired.

Uh, this was a request from them, not generated from our office whatsoever.

So uh we will further we'll postpone this to allow us to work through uh any of those challenges again.

The goal is to allow for the two members who were appointed to sit.

Um this was a request from SimCog to our office uh with further discussion.

Uh pro Tim Young.

I wanted to add uh Mr.

Whitaker.

Do you want to chime in?

Can we just do it offline?

Oh, okay, okay.

I just wanted you know, he's the premier even.

I thought he wanted to chime in on what he thought.

That's all you only ask me.

But if you won't do it all on that's yeah, look, I don't want to be on anyone.

Yeah, look, look, I don't want to be on anyone.

All right.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

So there's three resolutions there before us.

One again uh for member waters, all three from member waters, uh resolution honoring Von Z Whitlow, resolution honoring the life and legacy of John Richard Seabitt, the third, as well as a resolution honoring Miles Chancellor.

Colleagues, is there a motion to place these items onto new business?

Oh see no objections, these three items will be placed on to new business.

Okay, madam clerk for the president's report on standing committee referrals and other matters for the budget, finance and audit standing committee.

Five reports from various city departments.

The five reports will be referred to the budget finance and audit standing committee for the internal operations standing committee.

Five reports from various city departments.

Five reports will be referred to the internal operations standing committee for the neighborhood and community services standing committee.

Six reports from various city departments.

Six reports will be referred to the neighborhood and community services standing committee for the planning and economic development standing committee.

Three reports from various city departments.

Three reports will be referred to the planning and economic development standing committee for the public health and safety standing committee.

19 reports from various city departments.

The 19 reports will be referred to the public health and safety standing committee under consent agenda.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

Thank you so much.

I do see Attorney Anderson coming up to the mic.

Sir, you have something you want to add?

Yes, through the chair Graham Anderson Law Department.

I just wanted to make some additional clarification on uh the earlier uh remote remarks by councilmember Calloway.

Uh just wanted to clarify that she did not intend to vote as a council member.

Um, she did not intend to participate in the conversation, thus, we do not see any uh violation.

Uh just wanted to make that uh very clear to this body and to the public as a whole.

Uh thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for making a clarification.

All right, we will now go to member reports.

Um, member Campbell.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, I do not have any member reports today.

Thank you.

All right, thank you, Member Johnson.

No report.

No report.

All right.

Member Santiago Remember.

I do have a report, Mr.

President.

For planning purposes for district six residents, uh, we invite you to our April office hours.

Yes, April is coming up.

Uh, we are going to be at Equity Alliance on April 6th, and we're going to be at Kemani Rec Center on April 20th.

We're going to be there with my team as well as our D6 B seed inspector.

So anyone who has any property maintenance issues or concerns, please do join us for our office hours again, April 6th and April 20th, Equity Alliance on the 6th committee on the 20th.

And we invite everyone, every single person, does not matter if you are a D6 residents on April 11th, Saturday, April 11th.

We're going to be at Patton Park.

This is going to be our second annual D6 dance.

Um, it's really fun.

We'll be there from 12 to 2 p.m.

We'll have lunch and we'll be joined by instructors from JIT Masters and Vamino's.

Uh, we take this as an opportunity to really uh celebrate and enjoy all of our cultures and companies.

Um, so it's a really really fun event.

So come and join us again.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you.

Masters, they are legit for real.

Uh member.

Uh Mr.

President, I would like to invite everyone to celebrate with Member Waters and I for Women's History Month.

We will be celebrating women's with unapologetic leadership, celebrating Detroit's women who lead without permission on Friday, March the 20th from 12 p.m.

to 3 p.m.

Right here in the auditorium from 12 to 3.

We look forward to seeing as many women who have the opportunity to come out and join us for our awards ceremony and a reception.

And we'd like to thank Madam Uh Waters for continuing her tradition from last year.

And I look forward to joining her as we continue to present awards to some of the most amazing women in the city of Detroit and their unapologetic leadership.

Look forward to seeing you out.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

Um I have no member reports.

Just uh Friday, we do have budget hearing, so we can make sure we have a call.

That's just my members report.

Uh pro Tim Young.

No.

All right, Member Waters.

Right then.

So and thank you to my colleague from District 5, uh, Member Miller.

Uh I couldn't have said I'm telling you, you laid it out.

You know, that great public service announcement on behalf of our women's uh um event this coming Friday.

And you know what?

We've had a significant number.

What was it?

100 and something that have RSVP'd already.

So and the number continues to go.

So we are looking forward to honoring our women now.

Um tomorrow, uh Wednesday from 4 to 6 p.m.

Uh is our skill trace task force meeting, which is co-chaired by members miller and members uh matt campbell.

We would be at um IBEW Local 58.

That is at 1358 Abbott from four to six, and it's such a very, very important uh task force because usually uh during each meeting, someone ended up getting hired the next day, and it's paid training.

We're talking about building on generational uh wealth, building on these are career opportunities uh in this field.

So uh we look forward to seeing uh people tell your grandchildren, tell your children.

Um tomorrow, four to six p.m.

one three five eight avid.

My office numbers 313 628-2363.

One three one three six two eight two three six three.

Thank you, Mr.

President.

Thank you, Member Benson.

All right, thank you.

And I just want to say thank you to Michigan Works.

Yesterday, we had our first dining with confidence training uh and certification exam.

And so we now offer free serve safe manager certification training, and this is a promise made to the restaurant industry during the entire dining with confidence process.

It was initially voted down, but after revoting this with my my colleagues, we passed it, and that's why you see dining with confidence placards throughout the city of Detroit.

But we also committed to the restaurant industry that we would help them as well, and that's by providing free training and certification.

And we had our first cohort yesterday, and we had eight people attend, and we had eight people pass the test.

And so I want to thank uh Michigan Works and Chef E over at the Easter Market for holding that training.

We have seven more trainings that are coming up, and this training is for serve safe manager certification, and it is one of the most widely recognized food safety credentials in the restaurant industry.

Qualification helps you qualify for jobs that require a certified food safety manager, stand out to restaurant and hospitality employers, help you get a better job, put more money in your pocket, wealth generation, learn essential food safety practices that are used across the industry and hopefully prevent items like we had at Popeyes, where you have uh roaches and flies and other uh pests around your food, or at Church's chicken, which was knowingly serving uh poison rotten food to our residents.

So I'm hoping that residents who are interested in participating in this program come to one of our training dates.

We have seven more training dates until June 22nd.

And if they have any questions, they can go to Michigan Works to sign up or simply call my office and we direct you in the proper location.

This is one of the promises we made.

It's a promise kept, and we are going to make our dining scene here in the city of Detroit the best on the planet.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

All right, that takes us to the end of member reports.

We want to revisit the SIMCOG or resolution, been made aware that they do not have a quorum, and they are looking to seat uh these members are prior to the um next meeting, which I believe is either this week or next week.

Sounds like it's this week.

Uh Mr.

Whitaker, you can come forward, please.

I know Member Benson, you indicated you have language that indicates that the president is not uh and pro tem are not necessarily the appointees.

Can you provide that language or maybe Mr.

Whitaker has that information himself?

Um Mr.

President Attorney Barclay is on her way up.

She's the most knowledgeable person in my office on boards and commissions.

Okay, and she's gonna speak to this.

If you can just wait till she comes into the room, she'll address your concerns.

Sure.

We will uh continue the rest of the agenda, which is extremely short as she makes her way up the elevator.

All right, so madam clerk.

Um without committee reference.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

Under communications from the clerk.

A report on approval of proceedings by the mayor.

Report will be received and placed on file under testimonial resolutions and special privilege.

There are no items, Mr.

President.

There are no items.

We are waiting for Miss Barcliff Attorney Barclay to come on up, colleagues.

Um we can recess to the call of the chair, and she would is on her way.

Oh you know what?

We didn't do waters.

Yeah, because it should have been uh it should have been on.

The formal session for today March 13th, excuse me, March 17th, 2026.

Madam Clerk, can you please call the roll?

Councilmember Scott Benson.

Stepped away.

Councilmember Letitia Johnson present.

Councilmember Denzel and Tommy Campbell.

Present.

Councilmember Renata Miller.

Councilmember Gabriela Santiago Romero present.

Council member Mary Waters, present.

Councilmember Angela Whitfield Callaway.

Member Callaway indicated that she would not be present or absence these exputers.

Council President Pro Tim Coleman A.

Young the second.

Here Council President James Tate.

Yep.

We have a quorum, Mr.

President.

Attorney Barcliff, thank you for joining us.

But there was a request for a change.

So one to get from you language-wise, if it is a requirement of this body to have the president and pro tem to sit on that board with the option of alternates.

Um bylaws.

However, I do know that it is the SIMCOD, the organization itself, that they want the president and president pro tem to be the delegates to the board.

They've made that them themselves.

This is not the first time that they've made an issue of that fact.

And that's why they have the alternates also for other council members to attend, because also, although you can have um I'm trying to think of the word.

Okay.

So if you're not able to find that language, we have already um provided a resolution that has two members on it.

Uh if we have to come back, we'll just come back to D because it doesn't sound like we have any definitive information that's coming uh from the other side of this table.

We've got a resolution.

We've got two members who are seated and ready to go to make sure they can fulfill that responsibility on behalf of this body and uh would serve as designees in this capacity and in the interim.

Um between now and next week, we'll have a definitive again.

Um I thought we were there, but have a definitive response on uh if in fact it has to be pro tem and pro tem president and pro tem versus uh other uh alternates that serve in that capacity or other members that serve in that capacity.

So I feel comfortable with the resolution that we currently have in place, um, but we will uh requesting that we don't put this on new business today to allow for us to have further discussion.

Pro Tim Yeah, thank you, uh Ms.

President.

So just for further clarification here, does this because it's can it seems like you're saying that I don't have to show up personally to the meeting?

I just want to know like does this mean that I'm gonna get emails like you missed this meeting?

Why are you not here?

Or does this mean that our delegates can go and do these meetings?

Like what is my responsibility here in this?

I think that's what the alternates are for.

Okay, so the alternates you do it.

So I could just be like, hey, here comes the alternate, go out there, I'm gonna go do this constituency work or whatever else it is.

I'm doing.

Yes.

All right, thank you.

Thank you so much.

Colleagues, um, is there any objection?

Uh I'm sorry.

Um there being no further business to come before this body.

Yeah, no, no, no.

I did not move.

I didn't I didn't move this to business, but we do have three resolutions that did not get voted on.

So um, madam clerk, three resolutions from member waters.

Yes, council member waters, three resolutions, motion to approve.

It's a motion to approve.

Any objection, colleagues?

See none, that action shall be taken.

If there be no further business to come before this body, this meeting will stand adjourned.