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Edmonds Planning Board Special Meeting: Robert's Rules Training — June 15, 2026

City Council & BoardsMonday, June 15, 2026
BodyEdmonds, Washington
SessionCity Council & Boards
DateMonday, June 15, 2026
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:33

I will call this June 10th special meeting of the Edmonds Planning Board to order at 6 34 PM.

0:43

We'll do a quick roll call.

0:45

Stephen Lee.

0:46

Here.

0:47

Nick Maxwell.

0:48

Here.

0:48

John Jesson.

0:49

Here.

0:50

John Melke.

0:50

Here.

0:51

Bristol Ellington.

0:52

Danielle Decoto.

0:54

Here.

0:54

Lee Hankins.

0:56

Here.

1:00

And Judy Gladstone is absent and excused.

1:04

Anybody else?

1:08

I think it helps if you make it a habit at the roll call to let the alternate know whether they are a voting member that day.

1:14

Good call.

1:15

You're in, buddy.

1:20

Okay.

1:21

And then we said we'll save the land acknowledgement for our regular meeting.

1:28

So our agenda for the special meeting tonight is to learn how to do all this stuff.

1:35

With uh Luke.

1:38

Yes.

1:40

Hi.

1:40

So my name is Luke Lani.

1:42

I am the city clerk for the City of Edmonds.

1:44

Um so I have a presentation here.

1:47

I do apologize if I'm going to go kind of quick through it.

1:49

If you have questions, please write those down or ask them at the end.

1:53

Um, just so I can make sure that I can hit all these points because there are a lot.

1:56

Um, so I'll start off with um thank you for the opportunity to to talk to everyone tonight.

2:03

Um I'm providing a brief overview on Robert's rules, and there are hundreds of topics that are covered in Robert's rules, or uh I may reference RONR somewhere in their presentation.

2:12

That's Robert's rules.

2:13

Um Robert's rules of meeting newly revised.

2:16

Uh if you um yeah, again, have any questions, just please save those till the end.

2:23

So first we're going to talk about the following, we're gonna go over the following topics.

2:26

Um first we'll talk about uh quorum, what it means for the open public meetings act and why it's necessary.

2:32

Uh we'll then talk about the duties of the chair.

2:34

Next, a fairly in-depth review of motions.

2:37

Um following motions, we'll talk about um discussion of action items and when that's appropriate.

2:42

After that, I'll go over voting and how it should be done properly, and then finally we'll discuss some special motions called incidental motions.

2:49

So why Robert's rules?

2:50

Uh Robert's rules is one of the most widely used guides for how different bodies govern their meetings.

2:55

The purpose of having rules and guidelines is to give the body an authority or a framework to back up their method of decision making.

3:03

Um the number of members required to conduct the body's business or hold a meeting.

3:09

Um in this case, the question did come up: do we need a quorum for a training?

3:12

We do because this was a meeting that was noticed to the public as a special meeting.

3:15

So you do need a quorum, even though we're just looking at a train.

3:18

Um in most cases a quorum is a simple majority.

3:22

Uh but because this is a seven-member body, four members are required to be present in order to conduct business.

3:27

Um, if a meeting starts and there are not enough members present, no action can be taken.

3:32

And uh I recommend canceling the meeting after a set amount of time.

3:37

Um, it's not possible to go through your agenda without a quorum.

3:41

Because a quorum is required to conduct the meeting, any gathering of four members is considered a meeting if business is discussed, regardless of where, when, or how the conversation happens.

3:52

Uh, this is an OPMA violation, and it can result in personal fines of $500 uh for the first offense and a thousand dollars for any future violation.

4:00

So the city will not cover this for you.

4:02

Um that said, outside of regular meeting times, the mere presence of a quorum does not constitute a meeting.

4:08

Uh it can get kind of confusing, but members must be discussing the business of the body in order to constitute a meeting.

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Summary of Proceedings

Edmonds Planning Board Special Meeting: Robert's Rules Training — June 15, 2026

The Edmonds Planning Board convened a special training meeting on parliamentary procedure led by City Clerk Luke Lani. The hybrid meeting was held in the Brackett Room at Edmonds City Hall; the land acknowledgement was deferred to the regular meeting. Per the meeting metadata, this session is dated June 15, 2026; however, the agenda and the raw transcript both date it as June 10, 2026, with a 6:30 PM scheduled start, the call to order at 6:34 PM, and adjournment at 7:01 PM. No votes or official actions were taken. Roll call: Stephen Lee, Nick Maxwell, John Jesson, John Melke, Bristol Ellington, Danielle Decoto, and Lee Hankins were present; Judy Gladstone was absent and excused; the alternate was seated as a voting member.

Quorum and the Open Public Meetings Act (OPMA)

  • Lani explained that a quorum is required even for a training because the session was publicly noticed as a special meeting; for the seven-member board, a quorum is four members.
  • Without a quorum, no action can be taken, and Lani recommended canceling the meeting after a set amount of time.
  • Under OPMA, any gathering of four members where city business is discussed constitutes a meeting regardless of where, when, or how the conversation happens; violations can result in personal fines of $500 for the first offense and $1,000 for any future violation, and the city will not cover these fines.
  • The mere presence of a quorum outside regular meeting times does not by itself constitute a meeting, but Lani strongly discouraged such gatherings because board business is nearly impossible to avoid discussing and outside observers may perceive a 'serial meeting.' Members discussed practical precautions, including splitting up after adjournment and avoiding elevator rides with four or more board members.

Duties of the Chair

  • Lani reviewed the chair's duties: opening the meeting; announcing the next item of business; recognizing members; stating questions and putting them to a vote when legitimately before the body; refusing dilatory or frivolous motions; enforcing order and decorum; expediting business politely; ruling on questions of order; responding to parliamentary and factual inquiries; authenticating actions by signature when necessary; and closing the meeting.

Motions

  • Lani described main motions, subsidiary motions (amend, call the question, postpone, limit or extend debate), and 'bring-back' motions such as reconsideration and taking from the table.
  • A motion to reconsider a previous vote must be made during the same meeting as the original vote and only by a member who voted on the prevailing side; a motion to take from the table must be made during the same or next regular meeting or it dies. Lani noted the Edmonds City Council had used a bring-back motion the previous night.
  • For action items, a motion must be made before discussion begins; the motion should be clear and contain no commentary, and a second should be a simple 'I second.' Not all motions require a second; one example is a motion to nominate a member to a position such as board chair.
  • During debate, every member must have an opportunity to speak before any member speaks twice. The chair then restates the motion, calls for the vote, and announces the results.
  • Lani stressed clarity because minutes are a permanent record for a 130-year-old city; motions should avoid vague references such as 'approve the contract listed in item 10.1 of the agenda.'

Amendments

  • An amendment must be relevant to the motion it modifies: amending '100 feet' to '90 feet' in an underground parking garage ordinance would be acceptable, while striking 'parking garage' and inserting 'power lines' would not.
  • An amendment that replaces the substance of the main motion — his example changed an allocation of $150,000 to a generic nonprofit into $10,000 for the council's training budget — is a replacement motion disguised as an amendment and is out of order.
  • Using a flavored ketchup example, Lani showed that amendments should strike and/or insert specific words, such as striking 'five' and inserting '10,' or striking '12' and inserting 'six.'
  • An amendment cannot be modified by another amendment before the first amendment is voted on; Lani illustrated this with an analogy of changing a six-cylinder engine to eight cylinders and then trying to amend the amendment to install an electric motor, producing an unworkable result.
  • The amendment is voted on first, and then the main motion as amended is voted on.

Discussion, Voting, and Incidental Motions

  • Discussion is important for fairness to members in both the majority and minority; no member should speak twice until all members have had the opportunity to speak once.
  • The body acts as one unit: the result of a 7-0 vote is the same as a 4-3 vote. OPMA requires votes to be taken in public; executive session discussions cannot be voted on until the body returns to open session, and secret ballots are not permitted.
  • Incidental motions include points of order, appeal of the chair's decision (the resulting vote is final), points of information (factual questions only), suspension of specific rules (generally requiring a supermajority), and withdrawal of motions.
  • Once a motion has been seconded, it belongs to the body and cannot be unilaterally withdrawn by its maker. The Edmonds City Council allows the maker to request withdrawal by unanimous consent, an example of a rule of procedure overriding Robert's Rules.

Q&A Highlights

  • Robert's Rules sets no debate time limit but encourages bodies to set one; two minutes per member is common.
  • A board member confirmed the planning board has a code and a handbook but has not formally adopted Robert's Rules; Lani recommended adopting a parliamentary authority, calling Robert's Rules the 'gold standard.'
  • Informational presentations can be discussed freely, but action items require a motion before discussion; if the board simply gives staff direction, that should be formalized with a motion such as 'I move to direct staff to such and such.'
  • An amendment is voted on separately from the main motion; after the amendment is resolved, the body votes again on the main motion as amended.
  • An amendment can be offered immediately after the second, before any debate, and the maker of the main motion has the first opportunity to speak.
  • On reconsideration, Lani explained that the council has a rule permitting reconsideration from the previous meeting, while Robert's Rules generally allows reconsideration only at the same meeting; for a subcommittee-type body such as this, the prevailing-side requirement may not apply, especially when new information emerges.
  • On staff interaction, Lani said casual bodies may invite their staff liaison to offer opinions, while in formal settings staff should run the meeting and answer questions directed to them.

Key Outcomes

  • No motions were made, and no votes or decisions were taken; the session was informational training only.
  • The special meeting was adjourned at 7:01 PM.
  • Discussion points for possible future board action included adopting a parliamentary authority such as Robert's Rules in an update to the board's handbook or bylaws.

Meeting Transcript

I will call this June 10th special meeting of the Edmonds Planning Board to order at 6 34 PM. We'll do a quick roll call. Stephen Lee. Here. Nick Maxwell. Here. John Jesson. Here. John Melke. Here. Bristol Ellington. Danielle Decoto. Here. Lee Hankins. Here. And Judy Gladstone is absent and excused. Anybody else? I think it helps if you make it a habit at the roll call to let the alternate know whether they are a voting member that day. Good call. You're in, buddy. Okay. And then we said we'll save the land acknowledgement for our regular meeting. So our agenda for the special meeting tonight is to learn how to do all this stuff. With uh Luke. Yes. Hi. So my name is Luke Lani. I am the city clerk for the City of Edmonds. Um so I have a presentation here. I do apologize if I'm going to go kind of quick through it. If you have questions, please write those down or ask them at the end. Um, just so I can make sure that I can hit all these points because there are a lot. Um, so I'll start off with um thank you for the opportunity to to talk to everyone tonight. Um I'm providing a brief overview on Robert's rules, and there are hundreds of topics that are covered in Robert's rules, or uh I may reference RONR somewhere in their presentation. That's Robert's rules. Um Robert's rules of meeting newly revised. Uh if you um yeah, again, have any questions, just please save those till the end. So first we're going to talk about the following, we're gonna go over the following topics. Um first we'll talk about uh quorum, what it means for the open public meetings act and why it's necessary. Uh we'll then talk about the duties of the chair. Next, a fairly in-depth review of motions. Um following motions, we'll talk about um discussion of action items and when that's appropriate. After that, I'll go over voting and how it should be done properly, and then finally we'll discuss some special motions called incidental motions. So why Robert's rules? Uh Robert's rules is one of the most widely used guides for how different bodies govern their meetings. The purpose of having rules and guidelines is to give the body an authority or a framework to back up their method of decision making. Um the number of members required to conduct the body's business or hold a meeting. Um in this case, the question did come up: do we need a quorum for a training? We do because this was a meeting that was noticed to the public as a special meeting. So you do need a quorum, even though we're just looking at a train.

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