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Eloy City Council Budget Work Session - May 20, 2024

Meeting PortalMonday, May 20, 2024
BodyEloy, Arizona
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DateMonday, May 20, 2024
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0:01

I will be starting in a few minutes in about another minute or so, okay.

0:05

Okay, sound good.

0:06

Okay.

0:19

I I forgot.

0:20

Oh, okay.

1:37

Councilmember Sutton, I have 531.

1:41

Thank you, Mayor.

1:45

At this time, I'd like to welcome you all to the City of Eloy Council Chambers and Work Session.

1:53

Today's date is Monday, May 20th.

1:56

It is 5 30 p.m.

1:58

Mary, may I get a roll call, please?

2:00

Yes.

2:01

Councilmember Sutton.

2:02

Here.

2:03

Councilmember Wonavalto Rodriguez.

2:06

Here.

2:06

Vice Mayor Curtis.

2:10

And for the record, Councilmember Sutton, uh, Vice Mayor Curtis will be participating by phone tonight.

2:16

Okay.

2:17

Okay.

2:17

Mayor Powell called in.

2:19

Councilmember Snyder.

2:21

Here.

2:22

I think I hear Councilmember Garcia coming in now.

2:25

Yep.

2:28

That's all right.

2:29

I just called your name if you want to say present.

2:32

Present.

2:34

Councilmember Tarango.

2:36

Here.

2:36

Thank you.

2:37

Thank you, Mary.

2:38

At this time, we all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

2:43

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

2:48

And to the Republic for which the stands one nation under God, individual for liberty and justice for all.

3:04

So at this time on the item number four, on scheduled public appearances.

3:19

Could you sign in now?

3:22

You could yeah, you can sign in now, then do it.

3:26

Councilmember Sutton, do you want me to put the timer up?

3:29

Yes, ma'am.

3:30

Okay.

3:44

And when you're ready, just uh state your name and address and uh you'll see the timer.

3:54

Oh don't start it yet.

4:01

Mortal shoe, sixty ten West Houser Road.

4:04

I'm here to um bring to light some information about the Houser Road water line project.

4:10

It's been in the works for 24 years.

4:13

Um from my perspective, the water line was placed there uh 45 years ago by a developer.

4:20

Um when we moved there, um we weren't really sure where the water line was.

4:26

We found out where it was and found out that it was there basically placed a few inches under grade um materials that haven't been used for a long time and it's just kind of a mess.

4:40

Been asking for 24 years if um I've talked to every city um city uh manager from Harvey uh from Harvey from Jim McFhelan all the way to David Um asking for consideration to have something done with this water line.

5:00

Um I know it's expensive, but it's something that really needs to be taken care of.

5:06

I've been patient.

5:08

I've been understanding, I understand Elay has a lot of projects that need to be taken care of, and this is serving a few people, but we are still citizens of Eli.

5:17

And we've been waiting, and we'd really like to have this attended to.

5:25

This latest convers um situation has come up where there had been money allocated, and um it's drug on and it's kind of been prompted on only when I've brought it up to staff, and um it's always seemed there hasn't seemed to be any fire to get it attended to.

5:47

I would really appreciate um if you would consider doing it, even if you split it up into two different parts, you know, um two different projects.

5:57

Um but it really it really would be nice to get get this taken care of.

6:01

And if there had been money allocated for it, um, I would appreciate it if that could be applied to this this particular project after all of these years.

6:11

Um if there's any other information or questions that you have, I'll be here after the meeting and I'll be happy to share it with you.

6:19

And I appreciate your time.

6:21

Thank you.

6:26

Okay, now we're gonna go to item number five discussion items.

6:30

The city council will receive an overview of the proposed tentative fiscal year 2425 budget for review and discussion.

6:38

Thank you, Brian.

6:44

Good evening, Mr.

6:46

Mayor, Council members, Councilmember Sutton.

6:50

Um tonight uh before you we're gonna go do an overview of the fiscal year 24-25 budget.

6:58

Um kind of the process is I'll go through uh the budget generative budget book.

7:05

Um it's also up on the screen.

7:08

I'll give a brief highlight of the nature of the budget.

7:13

Um I'll go over briefly the personnel.

7:16

I'll highlight those, and then I'll address starting from the special revenue funds from the street fund, all the perpetual care fund, then we'll go into the general fund and just go on those to on departmental basis.

7:32

The first 15 or 20 is all uh fund based.

7:36

I'll we'll go through those.

7:38

Um what I'll do is just kind of the uh the kind of the nature of it is I'll address how much the budget is, you know, if there's any increase and decrease in the total fund, you know, and address the major changes that have been uh addressed in the budget.

7:57

If at any time you have a question, please let me know.

8:00

Um, what I'll end up doing is if I threw with a fund or a department, I'll just ask if there's any questions regarding this uh fund.

8:10

If I don't hear any, I'll move on to the next one.

8:13

So um I'll be at uh kind of going through and and stuff of those issues.

8:20

Um I just want to get this set up a little bit so we can see, but um so tonight we're gonna just start on going over the transmitter letter uh that's provided from our city manager um and just briefly highlight the uh talk about this because this kind of sets the stage for our fiscal year 2425 budget.

8:42

But the total budget that is presented before the mayor and council, the total is 75,266,235.

8:52

This is actually an increase of just over 11.6 million over the previous year.

8:58

Um when you're looking at that, it's like wow, it's it's a big increase to our overall budget, but there's three really primary factors that have driven this increase.

9:07

Um is the council has um we adopted a resolution the committing five million of our reserve for economic development.

9:18

That's in this budget, so um, in case something uh arises with economic development that the council wants to address in an incentive agreement or anything, we have that.

9:30

That's per the committed um economic resolution on that.

9:36

The other thing is over last year, we have 2.3 million dollars in capital projects going from the general fund reserves into the sanitation for capital improvements.

9:49

The the other thing is we have a um another transfer from the general fund of reserves into the sanitation is 4.7 million dollars, and that is for a sewer line expansion uh from the plant over to 11 mile corner.

10:00

And that is for a sewer line expansion from the plant over to 11 mile corner.

10:06

So when you look at those three, those are pretty close to 11 million dollars.

10:11

And so when we look at it, those three encompassed with this budget does have you know salary increases that that we're looking at, and I'll and I'll touch on that here momentarily.

10:27

We do have this budget has around 18.4 million dollars in capital improvements.

10:33

Some of those are we have about 2.8 million dollars in road projects.

10:38

We have roughly about 2.1 million dollars in airport projects, 2.3 million in sanitation equipment upgrades, which I just mentioned, and we have over 7.6 million in enhancements to our water and wastewater systems.

10:57

So we have a really good strong capital budget.

11:01

We have went over capital budgets numerous times.

11:05

So all if there's any major questions on capital, we'll do that at the very end of the presentation.

11:11

So if there's something that needs to be brought up, we can do it at during the capital section, which is at the very end.

11:18

But uh what we'll do is we'll kind of leave that to the end, but uh we'll address any major things on that point.

11:25

I won't uh really get into the uh the lot of the revenue side of this because we've already did the revenue presentation, but I just will make note that um this budget does include what we brought forth is increasing water and wastewater rates per the our resolution we had for a five-year rate increase.

11:45

This would be the third one, which will be in November 1st.

11:49

Uh user fees, we just are gonna be redoing all those, which council we we brought forth the consolidated and re f rate and fee schedule.

12:00

So that will be uh effective this next fiscal year, and then we also are recommending just to make note that uh we adopt the maximum property tax for our primary property tax, and that would go from a dollar six forty-eight to a dollar one five, which is about a five cent decrease in the primary property tax.

12:24

When it comes to the primary property tax, we'll be that will be coming in June with the final adoption in uh in July with that through a resolution.

12:34

So what we'll do is we're gonna jump into kind of the first section.

12:41

Um I just want to talk about uh our personnel.

12:49

What is this budget look like when it comes to our personnel?

12:53

Um I'm gonna jump into if you're looking at your budget book.

12:57

We're gonna go to page uh um 18 on it.

13:04

And when it comes to our personnel, the total um for all personnel salary and benefits this next year is 30 just over 13.7 million.

13:13

Uh this what does it include?

13:15

We brought forth the new compensation and class study to council a few weeks ago.

13:20

So 100% of the uh market for all eligible employees are in this budget, along with a uh 4% general increase that would be effective July 1st.

13:34

Um it also moves our um adopting the new pay scale, and that's with a starting rate at uh $14.54 per hour.

13:45

Um it also moves with the mid minimum wage that keeps moving up uh based upon the state, so that's that's reflected for all the a lot of our uh seasonal employees.

13:56

Um reclassification.

13:59

So this budget does include reclassification of the public works operation manager to a deputy public works director.

14:08

Um it's reallocating what we have as a half-time position that is shared between library and in HR, it's reallocating it to a full-time under um the HR budget, salary and benefits.

14:22

Um it's also looking at um we have possible three employees that that could be retiring, so we go through and we make sure that the budgets reflect uh any leave payout.

14:35

So that those budgets are reflected, those are gonna be in uh I think the the police department and one in the city clerks as far as budgetarily wise, and then this budget uh with Arizona State retirement.

14:53

Um that's going down two-tenths of a percent, so a little bit of a salary savings, but not a lot to to make note of, but also public safety retirements and stay at the normalization rate, which is around 13 percent.

15:06

Um, and then for benefit-wise, we're looking in between uh two and a half to four percent for uh medical dental envision increases, so those are also reflected in this budget.

15:19

Um is there any questions when it comes to our personnel and benefits?

15:27

Okay, and one thing to note as we go throughout the all these budgets.

15:32

I'm not gonna jump into each one of those because they'll be um under the major budget uh kind of changes, salary and benefits.

15:41

I won't go over those if they are in the budget since almost every department has that reflection.

15:47

If there's anything that needs to be noted, I'll make note to council at that time.

15:52

But pretty much it it would go through your budget book.

15:56

The next several pages, probably the next 20 pages from that talk talk about the budget highlight to your personnel highlights that gets a little more in depth.

16:07

So is this posted online and council wants to look, you can get in a little more depth with the departments and um statistical sections of the personnel.

16:22

It jumps into each fund and department, and it gives a little more breakdown of full-time equivalent and some historical information.

16:30

So you know, you can go through and take a look at that if you uh like to look at graphs and charts of that nature with it.

16:39

But we're gonna do is now we're gonna start into a lot of the funds.

16:44

Um we're gonna jump in the first major fund, it's the street fund.

16:48

The street fund, um, their overall budget for um FY2425 is around 3.6 million.

16:58

This is actually a decrease of 450,000 185 over last fiscal year.

17:05

And it's like wow, we're we're decreasing, you know, what's going on.

17:09

A lot of it is our the what was recommended in our capital um for capital improvements went down a little bit, but was identified.

17:18

Um if you go to page um 40.

17:25

I'll I'll just go over some.

17:27

This is where I'm gonna start going over the significant changes.

17:30

Why did it change?

17:31

What light major light uh categories went up?

17:35

Um you have personnel and benefits uh that were increasing, but operating maintenance increased about 96,000.

17:41

So this is primarily due to uh budgeting about $30,000 more for rental of equipment, increasing operating supplies and increasing the contingency account for unexpected things that may arise within the streets fund.

17:55

Um street operations, which is gonna be a lot of their their materials that actually has increased 44,800 over last fiscal year, and this is in the fund like more barricades, um, some uh different rental that is just more in line with street operations and street light expenses.

18:19

But the capital itself decreased about 785,000, and that's just due to what was identified.

18:26

We still have a million dollars in pavement preservation projects and some other projects, but uh there's also a mate, there's also an eight hundred thousand dollar um capital project for roads that are in a different uh the streets one-time fund, which I'll get to on it.

18:42

So is there any major is there any questions with the streets fund that uh we just went over?

18:50

Hearing none.

18:51

Hearing none, we'll jump into the next one, which is a streets one-time fund.

18:56

The streets one-time fund is projected budget is just over a million dollars.

19:02

This is that or sorry, it's it's one million nine hundred and twenty-five thousand five hundred and eighty-five dollars.

19:09

This is actually an increase of just over a million dollars over last fiscal year.

19:14

Uh, the streets one-time fund that is funded through the a portion of our construction sales tax.

19:21

So whenever we get a portion of our construction sales tax, a third of it goes into the streets one-time fund for street operations.

19:30

So it only can be used for street um repairs, equipment of other natures with the streets fund.

19:37

When we're looking at this fund, uh, like I said, it changed over just by a million dollars.

19:44

This increase of operating maintenance was 220,840 is primarily due to the change in fund balance.

19:53

What that means is it's like your savings account for your home life, that is increased by a substantial amount.

20:00

So we're right we're we're kind of recognizing what that balance is of the overall reserve on that.

20:05

These are when I mentioned throughout the budget that um it's changed due to the fund balance.

20:11

It means our the fund balance, or if let's k back to uh accounting terms, your savings account has risen 220,000.

20:23

So that means we have a greater balance that is in the future, we have that in case something comes up that's unforeseen.

20:30

So in that line item that's I'm referring to that line item has categories changed by 220.

20:38

However, what are we doing in this fund?

20:42

The uh increase in capital by 800,000 is due to a pavement project on Sunshine and Santa Cruz.

20:49

So we're gonna be doing a project on Sunshine Santa Cruz, a pavement project.

20:55

So those are the major uh significant changes in to this fund.

20:59

Is there any questions regarding the streets one time?

21:04

Okay, hearing none.

21:06

These next several, well, this one's uh is our LTA fund.

21:11

L TAF fund was actually a long time ago as established from the the lottery funds that we used to get from the state.

21:18

This actually still has some money in in it, and it only can be used for like some transportation.

21:24

We haven't had any transportation related uh items, but if something comes up, we have this balance has only about 11,190.

21:33

Really, there's no no significant changes to this budget, but we have to report it since there are funds within this.

21:40

Um there are funds actually within this uh the LTAF fund.

21:44

So is there any changes really with the LTAF fund?

21:49

We'll go to the capital project section.

21:51

The capital projects, the capital project um fund is this one's the one where we allocate uh one-time revenue from the general fund from construction projects into the capital projects fund to fund general capital projects, and most of those are for like police, um community services, community development, general administration, vehicle maintenance projects that arise throughout the year.

22:20

But this budget for the capital projects fund is three three point six million.

22:29

This is actually an increase of about 27% over last fiscal year.

22:35

So what are some of the major um significant changes?

22:41

Uh the capital expenditure line item is increased about 797,000 over the prior year, and that's due to the one-time construction sales tax increases that is what we're budgeting and what has come in the past several years.

22:59

So this fund has actually seen an increase over the prior year by that amount.

23:03

So our capital projects out of this we have addressed through prior meetings with capital projects, but at the end, if if the council wishes us to go in a little bit of capital, we can at that time.

23:16

But uh, these are all capital projects that we've already brought forth to the council on the community, the economic and community development fund.

23:28

This fund um just for the the public is the funded by the two percent uh food for home based consumption tax.

23:36

The total budget uh for this fund is about 1.8 million, and this is actually uh an increase over last fiscal year of about around.

23:52

I was trying to I can't read up there.

23:55

I'm gonna get the book.

23:57

Excuse me, real quick.

24:00

Look up there too much.

24:02

Um this is actually uh an increase of about 400 or about 742,000 dollars more than the last fiscal year.

24:11

Um the reason why it's gonna be coming back to the same thing.

24:16

Our fund balance is has gone up.

24:18

That means we're receiving what we're receiving from the two percent is has been increases, but these projects are a lot of um based upon community or development projects needs.

24:30

We haven't addressed anything this past fiscal year, but what we're doing this fiscal year in 24-25 is we're addressing a few a few uh projects with it.

24:42

Um we are addressing that uh out of the capital that we're going to fund an economic development plan out of there, updating our economic development plan.

24:53

We're planning to do improvements to Troy Thomas with the inside of that, and then we're also going to do the shed medium road project.

25:02

So we're we're anticipating doing around $815,000 in capital improvements out of this particular fund.

25:11

As you see, that's why our fund everything is increased about $742.

25:16

We didn't have anything spent this fiscal year or the prior years.

25:20

So that our balance on this is been growing.

25:24

So we're anticipating to do have $815,000 out of this fund.

25:30

Is there any questions with the Brian?

25:34

After we do the capital projects, what will be the balance in this fund?

25:38

If we do these capital projects uh identified here, if we did these projects in the balance, is it let's just say it's $815, that would leave us with just over a million dollars in that fund still.

25:57

Now these next several that we're gonna go into, there are impact fee funds.

26:03

Impact fees are collected on new development.

26:07

So any new house coming in, they have to pay impact fees, and those impact fees can only be spent on growth.

26:14

It can't be spent on replacement and maintenance of equipment.

26:20

It has to be related to growth issues that is facing parks or police or streets.

26:31

So when we go through this, I just wanted to make note that those were what these next five funds are for.

26:38

But the uh parks and recreation impact fee fund, this balance here is um 862,865, and so this is an increase um of 343,000 over the previous year.

26:58

And the changes on this really we don't have anything identified in any of our impact fee funds because we don't have anything that is geared towards it.

27:08

However, if something comes up that we can identify the use of impact fee funds, we have eight hundred and sixty-two thousand dollars that we can use within that, but nothing has been identified in this uh parks and recreation impact fee fund for this fiscal year.

27:27

The police impact fee fund.

27:30

This budget is nine hundred and thirty-seven thousand three hundred and thirty.

27:34

Again, we don't have anything identified.

27:38

This budget uh is actually increasing about 150,000, but we don't have anything significantly uh addressed, but everything that uh has to has to just be uh police related on that the water impact fee.

27:56

We actually don't collect this uh fee anymore on uh new new construction.

28:01

We actually adopted the water capacity fees, so this fund is just carrying the balance that we have, and we can spend this on new growth.

28:13

If uh any of our water projects that are coming up that are expanding services, let's say we have a 12-inch line and we're expanding it because of new home growth to a particular area.

28:26

We can use a portion of this impact fee or all of it for those related.

28:30

But this fund has a balance of $349,270, and there's nothing in this budget that's identified as a major project, but we can spend it on anything that's dealing with water issues related to growth.

28:49

Wastewater impact fee.

28:51

Again, we don't collect this one, it's actually a sewer capacity fee now.

28:56

Um this budget is 418,480.

29:01

Um fiscal year uh 24-25, nothing's identified, but like I mentioned uh previously, has to be spent on any uh wastewater growth due to development.

29:17

The last impact fee is streets impact fee.

29:20

Uh that this uh fund has a total of $895,385.

29:29

Uh again, no per going through.

29:33

We don't have anything at this time identified in the budget, but if there's anything unforeseen, these expenses can be used related growth on that.

29:43

So it was an example of that.

29:45

If we have a new housing development come in and we need to expand uh they're expanding their portion of the street, we could use some of this to expand the other portion due to that growth.

29:58

So that's that's uh an example.

30:02

Uh the next couple impact or the next special revenue funds, these next couple, the police impound fee and the police safety equipment fund are only can be used for police related expenses or uh or purchases.

30:18

They are mandated by the the court that we have them in separate funds.

30:23

So I wanted to bring that note before we get into that.

30:26

But the police impound fee fund.

30:29

This actually has a combined balance of about 35,000.

30:35

Um in this budget, this is a an increase actually a decrease of about 12,000 dollars over last fiscal year because they've been spending items out of this based upon you know for police related expenses, but they still have a balance between what's coming in and what's in fund balance of about 35,000.

30:56

So that's what's noted is that this fund is decreasing by 12,015.

31:02

But again, like I mentioned, only can be spent on police related items.

31:07

Nothing's been identified.

31:08

The police use this for special items that they they look at throughout the year.

31:16

The next one, the police safety equipment fund.

31:19

This has a combined balance of $14,775.

31:24

Um, this is a combination of what we're forecasting what's coming in and along with their their fund balance.

31:32

Uh this actually is increasing just over five thousand dollars over last fiscal year, but again, nothing's identified.

31:39

But if any expenses happen, it's police has to be uh due related to public safety.

31:48

Grants fund.

31:50

Um just to touch base.

31:53

This overall budget is uh seven seven million five hundred and nineteen thousand three hundred and fifty.

31:59

You might look like wow, we're getting a lot of grants.

32:02

Yeah, yeah.

32:03

Um, what this is actually is we make sure we have enough budget capacity.

32:09

So if a grant comes in, we can accept it.

32:12

Because what we don't want to do is budget the two million dollars, two point five million dollars we think we're going to get because we have grants coming in.

32:22

We want to have that capacity.

32:24

So if we do apply for something, we have the budget capacity to accept that grant and move on with it.

32:30

So a lot of this has a lot of if you want to say fluff in the balances, but I always want to budget enough just in case we get some grant that is maybe five million dollars that's gonna be spent in one year because we have a major purchase that happened.

32:48

We have that capacity.

32:49

So a lot of this is the capacity that we're looking at.

32:53

But these grants within it are from how how C DBG are regional money to housing to police um expenses from the governor office of highway safety to Stone Garden to Recreation to Airport related projects.

33:11

So when we look at kind of the expense side, this is actually the grant fund is actually going down about a million 1.1 million over last fiscal year.

33:22

And primarily that's due to a couple things.

33:25

We know about the there are a couple salary position uh police positions out of here, and you'll see that in the personnel side.

33:33

But as far as the grant is we've had some over last fiscal year, some the air.

33:39

I know the airport total was last year's like 2.5 million that went down.

33:44

We actually had some other C BG or the housing grants get completed, so that's reduced the balance on it too.

33:50

But we're capturing and we have enough balance to capture any grants we're looking at.

33:58

The JCEF fund, these next two JCF fund court recovery expenses can only be spent on court related items.

34:08

So we can't use any of this for general operating that we want, but it that we can use it for court related items like in their building or if they need to go on training, special training, they can use these funds because it's specifically only for court related expenses.

34:26

So when we look at this, the JCEF fund, this has a combined balance between the what the revenue is and fund balance of about 74,855.

34:38

Within this fund, um we don't have really anything identified, but if there's anything identified that comes up, capital project-wise or major purchases, air unit breaks, they can use this fund for that, those recourt related items.

34:58

The next one, the court recovery fund.

35:01

This actually has a combined balance of 149,280.

35:06

Again, identifying nothing major was identified out of here.

35:10

Um this actually, this budget has increased about 35,000 over last fiscal year, but again, we've identified either building repairs or HVAC improvements and possible things that could happen out of there.

35:27

This is another own police related uh uh fund.

35:33

This is mandated.

35:34

This is from that proposition 207, which legalized the sale of marijuana.

35:40

So the city gets roughly about 68 to 70,000 annual from the proposition 207.

35:48

So it's put in this fund, and it is actually uh the police have used it uh uh in the past, but has roughly a balance of about 196,000 between what we're gonna get in and what's in the fund balance.

36:02

So um again, nothing's really identified in this fund, but it is going up to about 72,000 over the previous year, and again, it has to be uh any expenses must be spent on public safety related issues.

36:19

So those nothing's been identified at this moment for the smart and safety fund.

36:28

Water allotment.

36:30

The water allotment uh fund was set up as a cost sharing and water allocation between at this point, it was is just Linmark in the city of Eloy.

36:41

So it was set up that the when uh Linmark or a developer was contributing, we would set up its own allocation in here.

36:49

So it's only it's more like a water related fund, but it has to be spent only on the CAP water um distribution as we move forward with this.

37:03

But this fund actually has a combined balance of about sixty-five thousand eight hundred and ten dollars, and that includes the projected revenue about twenty-four thousand and a fund balance of forty-one thousand.

37:16

Nothing's identified as expenses within this of using that uh the water allotment that's coming in.

37:24

But if it if there's any, it must be spent on water expenses related to the Central Arizona Ground Replenishment District dues.

37:34

So additionally, if the uh the agreement that we have a LIN mark, if it goes away or is reduced by a portion, we are to refund that money back to Linmark.

37:45

So we're basically an escrow account for them.

37:49

Well uh curious uh why this fund is not have uh money coming out of it.

37:58

Because is it uh isn't the city paying for an allocation for water?

38:04

And this agreement was kind of helped Lindmark was helped the city with that, and so I'm just curious why this fund keeps growing, and there's no money going out of it.

38:14

We can't per the development agreement.

38:17

The agreement that previous city manager um Harvey Krause made with Linmark and the council agreed to doesn't allow us to withdraw any funds to help offset CAGRD and CAP water dues, it's just simply a holding account.

38:31

So when would it be used?

38:33

If the development occurs, that's also um a portion of the Linmark development south of the town is being considered for a substantial solar project at this point.

38:42

So that's been in discussion too on whether or not with the um if the solar project does go through and it earmarks X amount of acreage out of that development.

38:50

Is there going to be a subsequent reduction in the water allocation for that project, which would reduce the amount that they would have to pay into this fund?

38:58

But it would only go out once the development actually occurs.

39:03

Yeah, yep.

39:06

That's why we keep it in separate fund just so it's not entangled with the water revenue and and uh trying to allocate it.

39:14

So the the these next three funds we're gonna get into is our enterprise funds, the the water, sewer, and sanitation.

39:21

So the the water fund uh as we get into looking at it, the water funds balance that we're looking at or for FY 2425 is just over five million dollars.

39:34

That's the total budget.

39:35

This is actually a decrease of about $25,895 over the previous year.

39:43

So just to kind of go into and let me get down to the uh budget significant changes.

39:51

It's got the increases to personnel, but are from the repair and maintenance category for buildings and grounds.

40:00

But our from the repair and maintenance category for buildings and grounds, we're seeing an increase about $8,000 for the repair at various water facilities that they're looking at, pump houses, you know, try to uh repair those.

40:10

The debt service category is increasing by 17, a little over 17,000.

40:15

And that's recording of the WIFA fund that we're just completing for the improvements that have been made to uh the wells that uh we just actually the council got the tour on Friday.

40:26

So that's recognizing the debt uh that's coming on board.

40:30

Uh there's actually an increase in in this case it says street operations by 7,000 because when uh you they go out and do water repairs on the road, they actually buy the equipment for repairing the road from from tearing up.

40:44

So they're increasing that uh based upon trying to repair the water lines that's in the roadway.

40:51

Uh in the water system category, 64,330 is dollars, that category is increasing.

40:59

It's probably due to the maintenance and operations needed, but also to well six.

41:04

They're then be doing that uh repairs to that, so they're they're recognizing increasing the budget line item for what uh due to well six in the cap water category.

41:16

That's gonna be our membership fees and our allocation dues.

41:20

We're looking at that line going up about 108,500 over last fiscal year, and that's just costs associated with the Central Arizona project and membership dues.

41:32

And then the capital line, this is actually decreasing $330,000 over last fiscal year.

41:39

Um, and so we're we'll get into the the capital projects itself, but uh these are some of the the areas that uh have been uh looked at, but we'll get into the capital section at the end of this uh presentation.

41:55

The sewer fund.

41:56

The sewer fund is actually budget is 7.8 million.

42:02

This is actually an increase, 3.3 million over last fiscal year.

42:06

You're like, wow, that's a large increase.

42:08

Well, we addressed at the beginning of uh when I started talking of transferring in from the general fund about 4.7 million dollars for the uh sewer line extension from the plant to 11 mile corner, so it's recognized in here.

42:24

So as I get down to the capital section, you'll see where majority of this increase is at.

42:30

But under our um significant changes within this budget, um, out of the 3.6 million, you'll see $3.5 million is all from capital.

42:41

So majority of this increase is all from our capital.

42:46

Um benefits have decreased actually in this one.

42:50

I'll just address like $25,000.

42:51

So when you look at it going, man, I thought why are benefits decreased.

42:56

Actually, when you look at salary and benefits throughout this, if you see a decrease, what happens a lot of times is when we have a vacant position that is when we're doing the the budget, I always budget for family because I don't want to have to say we're gonna budget for a single and they come at family coverage, and that really blows the uh the budget for that department because of that.

43:20

So we budget high on benefits if when they hire, and this is the case they hired somebody in with that was had a different benefit coverage, and that and then benefits are adjusted after that.

43:32

Um there is an increase in operating maintenance by 17,000.

43:37

This is primarily due to field supplies increases, permits, chemicals, and other operating supplies for the sewer treatment plant.

43:45

Uh repair and maintenance to buildings and grounds by 7,000, and again, this is repairs out at the wastewater facility itself, doing some repairs out there uh for the staff.

43:59

Debt service is increasing by 69,000.

44:02

That's due to the WIF alone that was through the clean water uh loan from WIFA.

44:09

So that's recognizing the debt, and then again, capital is increasing by 3.5 million, and this is mainly due to some of the projects that it's identified in the capital project section.

44:22

So those are the major changes from the prior year within the sewer fund.

44:30

Sanitation Fund.

44:32

Sanitation Fund is in uh total budget is $4,664.

44:42

This is actually an increase of $2.4 million over last fiscal year.

44:48

When we taught we we addressed this at the beginning, but majority of this $2.4 million is right here in capital, $2.3 million.

45:00

So overall, the fund is actually showing uh a few significant changes in personnel.

45:05

Um that's going up.

45:07

Uh utilities is going up by $3,800, and that's we're recognizing uh a lot of the electrical rates going up.

45:15

Uh APS, you'll see that in the general funds budget.

45:18

APS is uh rates are going up in between 10 to 15 percent.

45:23

There's actually a decrease in contractual services by 20,000, and this due to adjusting the budget capacity and moving funding uh in the sin the sanitation service line items throughout the budget, just reallocating adjusting uh the expenses.

45:41

There's an increase in uh the uh sanitation services by 136, and this is due to the our garbage hauler, which is right-away disposal, and because with them passing along that five percent uh fuel charge adjustment, we had we account for that in the budget itself.

46:02

And lastly, we addressed the 2.3 million dollars already for the capital, and so that's a uh increase in the capital by 2.3 million.

46:12

So any questions with the enterprise funds, the water sewer sanitation.

46:20

Hearing them, okay.

46:26

A bad dad joke, but the cemetery fund um cemeteries overall budget is 298, 850.

46:36

This is uh an increase of about 45,515 over last fiscal year.

46:46

So as we look into the changes, majority of the changes are within our capital line item.

46:53

So there's an increase in contractual by 5,000.

46:56

This is like more for like the trim trimming of the trees out there, the services, but in capital, you'll see an increase of 35,000, and that's major the the major project out there is they're a fog seal the roads.

47:09

So that's that's doing some uh for the the roads within there, improving the roads uh and keeping the conditions out there.

47:17

So that's the majority of the capital for the cemetery fund.

47:23

The last uh really special revenue fund is the airport fund.

47:28

Airport funds uh combined budget is 428,090.

47:35

This is actually an increase of uh about 206,020 over last fiscal year.

47:43

Majority of this, the the adjustment to this is we do show an increase in operating maintenance by 17,000.

47:52

And this is due to recording the city's portion of like the um the FFA grants that uh we get in FAA grants, not FFA, but FAA grants.

48:04

So you'll see that because we have a we have a line item where we capture what is our five percent or two and a half percent, depending on the grant allocation.

48:15

So for all those uh airport related projects, but we do show uh a decrease in repair and maintenance for buildings and grounds by five thousand, and this is just adjusting the the budget capacity, you know, with an airport fund, just reallocating it.

48:34

But we do have a capital project of about 195,000.

48:38

Um that's increasing in the airport fund because that's due to tearing down hangar one, and then also doing a air park specific site plan out there.

48:49

So there will be some uh you know movement out there for with hangar one coming up.

48:58

And the last one, this is the perpetual care fund.

49:01

Perpetual care fund is where we take 10% of the plot sales that happen on every fiscal year.

49:08

It's moved over here from the cemetery fund into the perpetual care fund, and so this overall budget is uh just over $6,500.

49:18

And so this only can be used any funds out of here is when the cemetery has fully can't sell any more plots, and they have a decrease in revenue from the plot sales.

49:34

This fund then can be looked at for helping with the maintenance of that.

49:40

So what we just went over was all the special revenue funds or enterprise funds of the city.

49:47

So at this time um we're gonna get into the general fund unless there's any um questions related to that.

50:00

Brad, just a general observation, or maybe you can help me.

50:01

We have a lot of funds, and it seems like there's some money sitting in the funds that we haven't earmarked for anything.

50:08

Uh is a lot of the are a lot of these funds dictated by state law or something we've just done in the past, or are you know how much money is actually sitting there in these funds we haven't allocated to do anything with?

50:21

Any idea?

50:23

I don't have an idea of what they what the total is, but most of these funds, and I'm just uh look just show you LTAP fund is specific for a lot of these funds are they have to be spent on related items, impact fees regulated by state law, court recovery projects regulated by the state.

50:45

So a lot of our special revenue funds where they have money allocated, they're only for specific purposes that we can use for it, and we have to account for them in their own fund with it.

50:58

We can't rob Peter to pay Paul on some other funds.

51:02

We have to re report those on it.

51:05

But a lot of these funds, I'd say 90%, excluding water and wastewater, the enterprise, almost all of them have our specific for specific purposes regulated by either a court mandate or ARS statutes.

51:21

It suggests maybe that we haven't done a really good job of maybe looking how to use this money, or we could probably use his money for grants, right?

51:30

In those areas, is our portion of the grants.

51:33

We could probably uh I'm just thinking out loud here, but it just seems to me that there's opportunity to do some things uh with his money.

51:42

We probably because of other priorities that I know that probably haven't really taken advantage of just if the uh councilman Schneider and Councilman Sutton.

51:56

Um we're looking at this is if it is if we ever do get a grant, and it's like you have to have a thirty thousand dollar match for a police project.

52:05

Yeah, you could look at something like that, but most of the time we're getting grants, there's no a lot.

52:11

I'm gonna use police, there's very little times that we actually have to have a local match.

52:17

Most of your local match is gonna become from like a C D BG grant that we're trying to show that hey, it's on a point basis, and we're trying to show that we're gonna allocate more.

52:40

And we would do that with road projects.

52:42

If there's a road project grant out there, yeah, you can say that we're gonna we'll allocate six hundred and fifty thousand dollars, let's say, and yeah, you can use the street one-time money out of that.

52:53

But those are the opportunities that that if we have, yeah, if it matches one of our funds that we could, yes, we could use that, but a lot of the grants that we apply for aren't asking for local matches.

53:06

That's uh when we're going through it.

53:08

Thank you.

53:11

Um the general fund.

53:14

The general fund is made up of our departments of from a general administration, HR, city clerk, finance, community services.

53:25

So what I'm gonna do is um just kind of go down.

53:30

I'm gonna first start with general government departments, and those general government departments are these ones city, the city clerk or counter city council, clerk, community resources, city manager, magistrate, finance, legal, and the our contingency debt and transfer is kind of our our uh holding where we we do a lot of things, and I'll get into that.

53:53

But just to start with the the city council, the city council's budget is 311,180.

54:02

This is actually a 20,730 increase over last fiscal year.

54:08

This budget um and looking at it, the significant changes here are $9,500 to operating and maintenance, and this is associated with like the league event uh employee appreciation expenses in the council contingency.

54:26

Those line items majority make up this $9,500 increase, and we to account for kind of what we've been spending within those funds for uh within the council's budget.

54:40

Also, uh the other note on it is uh the community contributions that is going up $13,200, and that's primarily due to increasing the from the outside community uh the outreach program that uh came before council.

55:00

hundred dollar increase and we to account for kind of what we've been spending within those funds for uh within the council's budget also uh the other note on it is uh the community contributions that is going up thirteen thousand two hundred dollars and that's primarily due to increasing the from the outside community uh the outreach program that uh came before council so what council gave us the general recommendation those changes have been updated in this budget for that so as you see here that it would be funding 12 programs and increasing that community programs by 10400 so is there any questions with the council's budget of uh 31180 dollars we can cut it too if you guys would like I didn't get much of a laugh a lot of money has to be some humor on it but um city clerk's budget the city's clerk's budget is 56235 this is actually an increase of 33790 dollars over last fiscal year the major change on this is um the within the operating maintenance 7100 is uh is probably is increasing in operating maintenance and that's because our general liability what we fund our buildings for liability insurance vehicles those types of insurance uh that budget uh is going up about 10 percent and then also within this budget uh contractual services is going up 11, uh 650 dollars and this is due to cost increases to like Civic Clerk, laser fish and uh live streaming of the granica software so those are the major changes within uh the uh um city clerk's budget the next one HR the HR budget is three hundred and eighty seven thousand four hundred and five dollars this is an increase of fifty six thousand five hundred um right off the bat wow that's you know it's like what quite a bit but you have to remember at the beginning when we talk about personnel we reallocated uh the halftime position from the library to the HR for it being funded so that was majority of their increase in salary and benefits is for that position but they do they do uh would like to see operating maintenance uh increase by 4500 dollars and this is due to testing for employees and then um there's also contractual services is increasing by sixteen thousand and it's due to uh their HR will be doing the uh um background checks within the HR department um going out to a contractor for that city manager's budget uh city manager's budget is six hundred and ninety one thousand two hundred and ninety five dollars this is actually an increase of two hundred and nineteen thousand five hundred and forty five dollars um actually at the beginning of the personnel I probably and I I totally slipped my mind the main reason for this budget increasing so much is in salary benefits is because within the community development fund that's where the economic development manager was budgeted out of that budget for that position is being moved to the city manager's budget so that amount is actually in here and I forgot to mention that uh when I was talking about personnel so that was that's the majority of the increase here in salary and benefits but within the city manager's budget there are some changes to operating maintenance by 3500 and this is to increase in the cost of membership for the communic development um now the funds were previous reported in the community development travel and training is going up by 5000 that's reflect anything to do with the with the economic development and then also uh increase in utilities by 5200 and that's for a purchase a like a a tablet and data for the new uh assistant city manager and economic development uh positions so that's what uh that increases to the utilities side of it but uh there's also contractual services are going up by about 75 000 and this is because we want to be able to have a budget capacity for the managers so if they they need to go out and do any contractual work or uh have any studies done between economic development or other services that the city manager feels necessary he has the budget authority and that the line items to conduct those studies or investigations uh within his budget for that does that mean that uh community development will no longer be involved with economic development uh council member center no that actually it's gonna work out better um we're gonna have the assistant city manager oversea economic development and and like we were talking in the budget hearings unfortunately we are losing our economic development specialist jeff Furman he's retiring as he calls it but it's just another chapter in his life uh he's been uh with us for over five years helping us out tremendously through our growth and Eloy and we're sat at the same goal but he's been working with McKinsey the last several months and what the plan is is to it was always the the goal to have

1:00:00

Uh council member Sanger.

1:00:01

No, that actually it's gonna work out better.

1:00:03

Um, we're gonna have the assistance city manager oversee economic development, and and like we were talking in the budget hearings.

1:00:09

Unfortunately, we are losing our economic development specialist Jeff Furman.

1:00:13

He's retiring as he calls it, but it's just another chapter in his life.

1:00:16

Uh he's been with us for over five years, helping us out tremendously through our growth in Eloy.

1:00:21

And we're set the same goal, but he's been working with McKinsey the last several months.

1:00:25

And what the plan is is to it was always the goal to have economic development be an arm of the assistant city manager so that it can stay in the city manager's office, but also McKinsey will be oversighting community development, so that'll help bridge that gap together so that community development economic development will be one unified force, and we can accomplish projects and keep the lines of communication more clear and together rather than having it cross-departmental.

1:00:50

So we hope to see a lot of yeah, we hope to see a lot of positive results out of this relationship.

1:00:54

But like I said, we're very sad to see uh Mr.

1:00:56

Fairman go on, but you know, we're gonna reevaluate what we need to do next and bring in a specialist that will help us move forward in our endeavors with economic development and uh community development growth.

1:01:10

So the the next uh department is uh the magistrate court magistrate court's budget is six hundred six hundred and forty-six thousand one hundred ninety dollars.

1:01:23

This is an increase of uh fifty thousand two hundred and ninety-five dollars over last fiscal year.

1:01:29

Majority of this increase, yes, we do have salary and benefits, but more majority of this increase is in the uh operating maintenance, uh and then this is increasing by $22,500.

1:01:42

This is really to cover the uh increases in daily fees charged by Pennell County sheriffs for uh the custody expenses of prisoners.

1:01:51

So that's majority of the increase out of that fifty thousand dollars.

1:01:58

The finance budget finance budget is one million forty-four thousand eight hundred and twenty-five dollars.

1:02:05

So fifty-nine thousand eight hundred and ninety-five dollar increase over last fiscal year.

1:02:11

Uh looking at this uh majority of the increase is thirty thousand dollars utilities is increasing thirty thousand dollars in my budget.

1:02:20

I pay for the the utilities for this building, city hall, and PD for the electricity and gas and uh sewer, and so it's reflecting the change mostly with electric and do the utility rates that we're looking at.

1:02:36

And the contractual services line is increasing by $33,725.

1:02:43

Majority of that is between three uh contract increases to our IT services.

1:02:48

Um assessments that come in from ADOR.

1:02:52

Uh they assess us based upon our population, and a lot of times they they fund their programs with the the through Arizona Department Revenue and they pass along to all the cities, so that's a increases going up by 9,000.

1:03:06

And then also our investment advisory fees are going up about $15,000 due to our investments with uh PFM.

1:03:16

Legal legal's budget is $60, one's $164,845.

1:03:26

Uh, there's really no changes to note within this budget, is exactly the same as was last year, so there's nothing to be uh addressed, no significant changes.

1:03:38

Now the debt uh the contingency debt and transfer fund.

1:03:42

What this is is a our fund that houses our incentive payments to ropes and to national jets and express fuel.

1:03:52

It has transfers that we transfer out to like the water fund or sewer fund.

1:03:58

Um it also has line items that we pay for our two excise tax bonds, so we pay our excise tax bonds out of this, and then also our contingency account.

1:04:10

We have one that's uh for our general contingency that is no uh budget items for, and then we also have out of here we've been paying annually to keep our unfunded liability for our police department at 100%.

1:04:28

So we have a line item that we we budget for that, and then also out of this fund this year.

1:04:34

Um we have a line item that is for the 75th anniversary.

1:04:39

We have about 75,000 earmarked for spending of that uh for that event as we come up to it.

1:04:47

So this actually is a this overall what I mentioned, all those amounts come up to less over 19.6 million.

1:05:00

This is actually five or six million three hundred and forty-four thousand dollars more.

1:05:04

The one thing that has increased this the most is the five million dollars for that economic development um line item that we're capturing as related to uh economic development.

1:05:17

So that has a line item in the budget that is just earmarked for that for the five million.

1:05:23

So you'll see uh these significant changes.

1:05:27

We talked about creating the the line item for the five million for economic development.

1:05:33

We also have a contingency within the general fund of a little over a million one point one million.

1:05:41

So that is if something happens, we will look at reducing that line versus reducing anything uh programs or services throughout the budget in case our revenue dips.

1:05:53

It also can be used if something comes up unexpected.

1:05:56

Well, we have this line item to spend out of it, and then we also have a uh a contingency for uh insurance of about 138,000.

1:06:06

What that is is we set this much uh amount aside so as our insurance rates go up the next, you know, possibly up to next year.

1:06:14

We don't have to look like we're gonna come up with the the funds.

1:06:17

We have a line item set aside for those uh future increases in insurance.

1:06:23

Um contractual services are going up by 16,000, and this is where the incentive payments are for national gypsum, ropes and ranch and express fuels.

1:06:34

Uh we talked about public safety unfunded liability payment, that's going up by 139,000.

1:06:40

And that's just to make sure that we keep uh public safety uh unfund liability at 100%.

1:06:46

That way we keep our contribution as low as possible.

1:06:50

Debt service that's going up about 25,000.

1:06:54

Um, this is mainly due to as we look to more leased vehicles from enterprise fleet management that we've been doing.

1:07:01

And then lastly, we talk about the transfers out, these are the transfers from the general fund to other uh funds for uh operational or capital, and we have the capital projects fund, the grants, water, sewer, and sanitation.

1:07:16

So that's what this it's a it's not it's a department, but it captures our it's more like an uh overall internal service fund with that community development, community development fund.

1:07:30

Their overall budget is one million two hundred and fifty-four thousand one hundred and fifty-five dollars.

1:07:37

This is actually a decrease of seven thousand one hundred and forty-five dollars over last fiscal year.

1:07:42

And it's like, how is that?

1:07:44

Well, we moved the the position of the economic development manager out of here, but throughout their budget line items have went up from that variance.

1:07:54

So when we look at the explanations on that, you'll see personnel decrease here about $49,000.

1:08:01

So did benefits about $50,000.

1:08:04

But the the main increase is uh increase in contractual services by 90,000.

1:08:12

This is primarily due to the new permit software that we're implementing that will be rolling out here in the next probably several months, and so that would be nice.

1:08:21

So, but that's incorporating the annual fee for that, along with uh increases in contractual services for on-call inspection services that that may come up for any projects we have.

1:08:39

The the next few that we're gonna look at uh are within the uh community services department.

1:08:47

They have a total of five budgets out of it.

1:08:51

So the first one we look at within community services is the administration.

1:08:56

Their overall budget is five hundred and forty-two thousand one hundred and fifty-five dollars.

1:09:02

This is actually an increase of a hundred and forty or sorry, forty-one thousand nine hundred and fifty-five dollars over previous fiscal year.

1:09:11

As we look at their justifications to it, personnel and benefits are shown an increase due to what we talked about earlier, but also their utilities is going up 26,960, and that's mainly to do with the a lot of the water rate increase of the 4% and also electricity.

1:09:34

Park maintenance.

1:09:36

Park maintenance overall budget is $628,290.

1:09:40

This is an increase of $62,155 over last fiscal year.

1:09:46

Um, majority of this change is within the salary and benefits, but also the operating maintenance categories increasing by $8,400.

1:10:00

It's due to costs for supplies, pool chemicals, and repair of the swimming pool, any expenses that come out of that.

1:10:05

And then when it comes to repair and maintenance of equipment and vehicles, we're looking at an increase of about $4,990.

1:10:13

This is to cover the increased costs for running equipment out there for the parks and grounds.

1:10:24

Recreation programs.

1:11:11

Paul keeps expanding and uh looking at the ways to do that.

1:11:15

So that's just uh increasing those that cost on it.

1:11:21

The library's budget is 288,165.

1:11:27

This actually has a decrease of that 23,700 or 70.

1:11:32

And we mentioned that earlier.

1:11:34

It's the personnel, it's moving that halftime position from library to human resource.

1:11:40

And you'll see that addressed here within the uh personnel side and in the benefits.

1:11:46

Other than that, all the other categories, line items with it are under the 3,000 for reporting.

1:11:57

Facility maintenance.

1:12:00

Facility maintenance budget is $468,535.

1:12:05

Increase of $40,000, $35 over last fiscal year.

1:12:10

And majority of this, as we see, is is going to be there's a decrease that actually in benefits of $11,000, and that's due to again, like we mentioned, we budget for a vacant position.

1:12:22

They come in at uh single versus family.

1:12:25

That's going to show that decrease.

1:12:27

But operating maintenance is increasing $5,500.

1:12:31

This reflects price increases in field supplies, custodial, and chemicals.

1:12:42

This is primarily due to upgrading uh some of the air units at the public works to shop to make them more efficient air units.

1:12:52

And then lastly, we have a contractual services going up by $37,000.

1:12:57

And this is due to uh budgeting for like electrical plumbing, doing like a uh it's a preventative care maintenance study on all of our buildings and air units and coming up with a good plan for that.

1:13:10

So that's what the uh $37,000 is there marked for.

1:13:26

We'll start with the first one, which is police administration.

1:13:30

Police administration's budget is one million six hundred and fifty-three thousand six hundred and forty-five dollars.

1:13:37

This is an increase of one hundred and eighty-seven thousand six hundred and five dollars over the previous year.

1:13:45

As we note in this one, majority of it will be within your personnel and benefits, but also uh these other categories have some notable changes, and uh we'll first start in operating maintenance.

1:14:00

That's going up by four thousand nine hundred dollars, and this is cut just to cover operational supplies for uh uh materials for the police department.

1:14:10

There's an increase in travel and training by uh $6,500, and this is the for costs associated trying to send two uh non-sworn certified officers to the police academy, you know, two recruits.

1:14:25

There's an increase in repair and maintenance for equipment and vehicles of $65,000.

1:14:31

This is primarily due to one-time charge uh that's coming from Pennell County, their Pennell County Regional Communication Consortium for $30,000 because they're they're upgrading their their equipment and they're passing it that a portion of that cost out to all the uh cities within that consortium.

1:14:51

So that's a one-time thirty thousand dollar payment.

1:15:00

Additionally they've got some other increases to subscriptions and software programs uh for a lot of their the programs that the PD has.

1:15:06

Um and then also in their contractual services that's going up 17,265, and this is uh increase to cover mandate uh mandatory banning occupational medical respirator screenings, uh roadrunner lock service agreements for the key card access, some other software for records and uh other other line items associated with uh some other programs that they have that within their contractual services.

1:15:40

The field operations budget.

1:15:42

This budget is 4,275,450 or 445 dollars.

1:15:49

It's an increase of 474,285 over last fiscal year.

1:15:56

Majority of this increase when we get to it is going to be in your salary and benefits.

1:16:02

Salary and benefits make up majority of that through the uh through the cost of market and the general increase.

1:16:09

But there is a decrease in operating and maintenance by 20,000, and that's due to uh reducing what was budgeted for uh gasoline purchases last year to a much higher uh mark, and so they they brought it down to more of what's been uh it's been um operating at so that's showing a decrease of twenty thousand seven hundred and ten dollars.

1:16:33

Animal control budget.

1:16:35

This budget uh is two hundred thousand.

1:16:38

This is actually the same budget as last year.

1:16:40

Uh there's no major changes within this.

1:16:43

This is still reflecting the two hundred thousand dollar um contract that we have with uh Penell County.

1:16:52

Brian, I noticed we've only spent fifty-five thousand dollars.

1:16:56

Is that because they haven't built us yet, or could you address that?

1:17:01

Yes, uh Councilman Schneider and other members of the council.

1:17:05

This is actually through February they spent this.

1:17:07

They're averaging right now around in between sixty-five to seventy-three hundred dollars a month in billing.

1:17:14

So if we just annualize it seven thousand, well, what you know what an average of what they've been billing, that's only 95 about 94,000, 91,000 at the two 12 months.

1:17:26

So they haven't billed us to what we've been we budgeted for on that.

1:17:31

And then we haven't spent that other 25,000 that was for the uh programs that they had marked to.

1:17:45

And then uh the last major department or division with it is uh public works.

1:17:51

You have the GIS, vehicle maintenance, and public works administration.

1:17:55

The GIS budget, their budget is fifty-eight thousand four hundred and thirty dollars.

1:18:01

This is only an increase about eighteen hundred and seventy dollars over last fiscal year.

1:18:06

Uh there's really no notable significant changes within this budget over last fiscal year.

1:18:18

The vehicle maintenance budget, two hundred and sixty-five thousand and five dollars.

1:18:25

This is uh twenty-two thousand three hundred and seventy-five dollar increase over last fiscal year.

1:18:31

Um, some notable changes.

1:18:33

You do have a decrease in personnel, and you're like, why?

1:18:37

Why is there a decrease?

1:18:38

Just wanted to make note.

1:18:39

Last year we had a one-time payment for someone retiring out of there, so there was a significant payment.

1:18:46

So with the comp and class study and all these, that's significant uh one-time payment is reflected in this.

1:18:53

But their operating and maintenance is increasing by $9,190.

1:18:59

It's primarily due to the purchase of new office furniture in the shop and additional uh cost for supplies are also rising.

1:19:09

And then repair and maintenance for equipment and vehicles is increasing by sixteen thousand five hundred dollars, and this is more for parts and supplies for maintaining our fleet.

1:19:22

In the last department, public works administration.

1:19:26

Um overall budget is $108,885, increase of $295 over last fiscal year, and there's really no notable changes within this uh significant changes of the report.

1:19:42

So at this time, members of the council, um council member Sutton is we've kind of addressed all the outlined the all the departments, funds, uh, divisions within the 2425.

1:20:00

Um we can at this time um address capital projects.

1:20:04

Um just to let you know the capital projects we have went over those, but the overall CIP budget we're looking at is 18,488,935.

1:20:17

Um this encompasses a total of um 58 capital projects.

1:20:24

Um and at this time I'll uh turn it over to I know the city manager's been dying to speak for an hour and 20 minutes.

1:20:32

Do we have any questions from council up until this point?

1:20:34

Anyone got anything?

1:20:38

Go ahead.

1:20:40

Thank you.

1:20:41

Um, and I know it's kind of far back, but I noticed um in the job openings, there was a job opening in the court for a part-time court clerk.

1:20:50

But I was looking at the staff that is on there, and it's um the judge, the administrator, and two court clerks.

1:20:59

Is that a different position or the like the half position?

1:21:04

Half a position is actually um uh councilman, councilmango is they have uh a couple of judges that step in for Judge Valdez when they when he is not available, they're like Judge Pro Tim's.

1:21:21

So we have to budget for that.

1:21:23

That's the half that's that I'm sorry, online shows.

1:21:29

Um the the judge, yeah, there was a full-time position in the HR director.

1:21:33

Uh you want to explain, yeah, because um HR director Sylvia Payne worked with the judge on uh what he was doing with the full-time position for the two part-time.

1:21:42

So she can help.

1:21:43

You want to come up?

1:21:44

Thank you.

1:21:45

It yeah, this was a recent change.

1:21:49

So one councilor Radio Rankle, council members council.

1:21:58

So yes, that's that is correct.

1:21:59

You are seeing it correctly.

1:22:01

So Judge Valdez uh spoke with um uh Mr.

1:22:04

Malowitz and myself because uh they are having some difficulties in filling those positions.

1:22:09

So we just made an offer for a full-time court clerk.

1:22:13

He does have an opening for an additional court clerk position, and rather than to uh try to fill, he had a per an individual who's been working as a volunteer and can work part-time.

1:22:24

So what he asked is to underfill the court clerk position and fill uh two part-timers.

1:22:32

So it'll be equivalent to a full-time position with no benefits.

1:22:35

So there'll be two part-timers.

1:22:38

So you are looking at it correctly.

1:22:40

Yeah, so we make out with the no benefits thing.

1:22:43

Uh yes, that more than likely, yes.

1:22:46

It it pay-wise, it'll it'll probably be equivalent.

1:22:50

But yes, um, we don't we do not pay benefits, but they are we do need to pay um some uh benefits under ASRS.

1:22:58

Yes, um, and we do pay pro-rated uh PTO.

1:23:02

Okay.

1:23:04

Yes, right.

1:23:12

What's that?

1:23:14

Well, I know it was in the thing.

1:23:15

I that that position is it's still equivalent.

1:23:18

I just noticed because I looked at the jobs that were online and then so I don't want to take away from the city manager, and I've been dying to that or the assistant city manager, they've been dying to speak on some capital.

1:23:35

So I'll I'll turn it over to them at this moment.

1:23:44

Do you want me to go to the water?

1:23:52

Okay.

1:23:57

So while we're doing that, I'll just I'll just start off um council members.

1:24:01

This is an in uh a response to uh Marla Shu, who spoke earlier on her the waterline project.

1:24:07

If you recall, we did have that waterline project.

1:24:11

I'll turn it in there and get it.

1:24:13

I can bring up 241.

1:24:18

I gotta get in there and get yeah, because I gotta do too much.

1:24:25

Thank you, Mary.

1:24:28

Uh is this the right one?

1:24:31

Yeah.

1:24:32

So back in if you recall, we did have like Marlowe pointed out, we did have her project um earmarked in the CIPA.

1:24:39

It has been a carryover project for the last couple of years, ever since as um Ms.

1:24:43

You noted uh previous city manager Harvey Krause and previous public works director Keith Brown had budgeted in what Brian FY 2122 or 2223.

1:24:55

Yeah, it was it was around 300,000 at that time.

1:24:57

So uh we have had it in the budget since then.

1:25:00

The the problem was is just acquiring the we had some signatures, some right-of-way dedications, other issues that needed to be resolved that resulted in this project being carried over several fiscal years up to today.

1:25:13

And at the time that we had our budget retreat meeting in February, we uh the s Matt and his team had not acquired all the signatures needed to dedicate the right-of-ways and get the easements that were needed.

1:25:23

So when we presented this, we told council here we are, we're year three of this rollover, it's $300,000.

1:25:30

We had an updated budget that surged the project to a $66,000 project, which was quite quite a hit, you know, council members and staff.

1:25:38

We're we're surprised by that, but given current state of construction and the industry, not totally surprising.

1:25:45

So at that time during the retreat, we got direction from council to push off this project until you know we had acquired all the signatures and we could be confident that it could be completed.

1:25:54

Um as a result, it was eventually just taken off the CIP and so we could get it better together and put it back on completely.

1:26:03

So in the meantime, we were able to acquire all the signatures.

1:26:07

We worked with Ms.

1:26:07

Shu and her neighbors, and all but one.

1:26:10

We there is one neighbor that still has not signed the documents that we need to acquire the right-of-way.

1:26:15

But um what we did is we went back and we re-engineered this.

1:26:19

So basically, tonight, since this is not currently listed on the CIP, it would have to be in order for the budget to continue to remain balanced, it would have to be a one-for-one project.

1:26:29

And we've got two options.

1:26:32

Uh one of the options being what you see on your screen here today.

1:26:36

Uh, I should probably pull up the also pull up the water sewer map for you so you can see what we're doing.

1:26:42

The original project was quite in depth in scope, actually, that had um waterline extensions both to Ms.

1:26:49

Shu's property and additionally two properties to the south, which is where the majority of the residents are.

1:26:55

But I'll bring up the water and sewer map for clarity so that we can all be on the same page.

1:27:00

And if there's any questions, we can help answer those better.

1:27:07

Out of curiosity while you're doing it.

1:27:08

What was the hang up on getting signatures?

1:27:12

Uh getting folks to agree to the project was one.

1:27:16

They were reluctant to sign off.

1:27:18

We had worked with Ms.

1:27:20

Shu and her husband on a number of occasions to try to get the signature.

1:27:24

There were some uh questions that Marlowe still had on the project, so we were working with Ms.

1:27:28

Shu on answering those questions, plans and whatnot.

1:27:33

Excuse me, Stephanie?

1:27:34

Sure.

1:27:35

I don't know how to read that as a sign to the left in the time Marie Frazier.

1:27:43

My understanding is that we're gonna be able to do that.

1:27:46

Can you come up to the microphone?

1:27:49

Thank you.

1:27:51

And just state your name, please.

1:27:53

I appreciate that.

1:27:54

Marie Fraser.

1:27:55

Hi.

1:27:56

Uh, my understanding, my neighbor next to me, and that hasn't signed because it was not in layman's term, the information that was sent to him.

1:28:07

He didn't understand.

1:28:08

He didn't want the city of Eloy taking any of his property.

1:28:13

That was his main concern.

1:28:16

And my understanding is that the footage that is needed by Eli is for the contractor who would ever um do the work, would be for six months.

1:28:32

My understanding.

1:28:34

And that and my neighbor didn't know that because it wasn't explained to him in layman's term, and he did not understand on the material that was provided.

1:28:47

And he's he's the only one.

1:28:50

Everybody else is signed.

1:28:52

It would be just a matter of somebody going and talking to him in layman's terms.

1:28:59

That's all that was asked.

1:29:01

The public works director, Matt Renscher, did visit you did did visit Mr.

1:29:05

Lyle and those on several occasions, correct?

1:29:09

We met with the other representative.

1:29:11

We met with the other residents.

1:29:13

We were never able to meet with Mr.

1:29:15

Lyles.

1:29:16

Maybe that's why it's because we're never really able to get to him to have a conversation with them.

1:29:21

It's not due to lack of trying.

1:29:22

We were out there.

1:29:23

I know that Mr.

1:29:24

Encher and his team had repeatedly spoke to residents, so we we tried.

1:29:33

I'm a I had asked in the meeting when we had with Matt and with uh question and was over.

1:29:44

Tammy.

1:29:46

Thank you.

1:29:46

And I asked Patty at that time.

1:29:48

Would you like me to help and speak to him?

1:29:51

I asked her three times, three times she told me no.

1:29:54

She's referring to I thought we talked to him on Saturday.

1:30:00

And that's exactly what she found telling me is the fact that what's going on.

1:30:04

He does not understand.

1:30:07

I put forward the effort, you know, the option two years ago to speak with him and that would turn down.

1:30:12

But what it's not the last trying.

1:30:15

Well, and either party, it sounds like it sounds like you did and we did.

1:30:18

So we both both parties.

1:30:19

It sounds like you tried to talk to Mr.

1:30:20

Lyle, and it's just been difficult.

1:30:22

I knew that I could that he wasn't going to talk to you guys.

1:30:26

But I was shut down.

1:30:27

I mean, I I put forth the effort to be to help this project move along.

1:30:33

So it's just a matter of speaking in layman's terms.

1:30:37

You know, when you start talking, you know, about um square footage and that and the city saying we're gonna need this amount of square footage for this and that, then it's starting to put up a wall, and uh because you're taking something from him.

1:30:58

Okay.

1:30:58

And that so it's just a matter of being, you know, um understanding, you know, and put it more in understandable words.

1:31:12

So does he does he get it now?

1:31:14

Is it I since no, what I offered him, he doesn't want to talk to you all.

1:31:19

Okay.

1:31:20

So how are we gonna get him to sign the paper?

1:31:22

I would give them options.

1:31:23

Okay.

1:31:24

And what he needs is a lay like the one said a layman explanation on what he's looking at, what the city wants to do, how they're gonna do it, the extent of the project, how it's gonna impact him.

1:31:39

It needs to be very simple because he doesn't his position is I'm not gonna give up any of my property for Evoy.

1:31:49

I already have water, I'm not gonna give up my property.

1:31:51

You think you guys are gonna come in there and take away take away property?

1:31:56

Right, so I asked, he said, send me another packet.

1:32:00

I said, would you like them to call you to talk to you?

1:32:03

Come by now, and how about a letter explaining everything?

1:32:09

He said, Yeah, send it to me.

1:32:11

Okay.

1:32:12

So I think if you explain it to him, you would be it it's all to do with uh I think that footage where the pipeline is gonna go that you need access still to it for any contractor, but for six months after, so if any leaks occur that the contractor would be able to come in and do any repairs.

1:32:37

That was that was I think the main thing that was not put into those terms.

1:32:43

Right, okay.

1:32:43

That makes sense because yeah, what we would do as part of the project is we would warranty our work for a period of time.

1:32:48

Well, the contractor with us would be warranting that work for a period of time.

1:32:52

Okay.

1:32:53

Right.

1:32:53

Okay.

1:32:55

That was his main concern.

1:32:57

All he's hearing is 25 feet.

1:33:00

City of Eloy taking.

1:33:02

Yeah, that's not true.

1:33:03

I get it.

1:33:04

And that's it.

1:33:05

That's not what we're doing.

1:33:06

So if there's any way that it can be continued in order to get, you know, Bill's signature would be greatly appreciated.

1:33:13

Sure, we can put something together.

1:33:14

Because I've I've lived out there 23 years.

1:33:17

Okay.

1:33:18

And that, and so nothing's been done with a water line other than we having to repair our own.

1:33:26

Right.

1:33:27

But to have, you know, what five meters all in one person's yard, and that you have to call them so you can go into their yard if you have to shut the water off.

1:33:38

And that was that's two houses down for me.

1:33:41

And I've done that.

1:33:43

Yeah.

1:33:44

But anyway.

1:33:45

Okay.

1:33:46

Well, thank you.

1:33:47

I appreciate that.

1:33:48

That's helpful.

1:33:49

Good information.

1:33:51

Um, yeah, so back on so the project initially scoped by um the previous city manager and public works director, included uh doing a line from Hauser Road all the way over downhauser to connect all these houses, and abandoning this line that goes down that um she was talking about just recently, so that the residents up here would have their own line, the residents down here would have their own line, and Mr.

1:34:18

Rentra, I believe there was an additional line going up North Indian Trail as part of the project.

1:34:23

So again, that's where the the six hundred thousand dollars came and came into play.

1:34:28

That was the original scope of the whole plan.

1:34:30

So going back, we like we looked at this and said, how do we re-engineer this?

1:34:34

Well, the one option that we came up with that would benefit that would be the most cost-effective would benefit all parties involved, city, Ms.

1:34:42

Shu, residents on Hauser Road, is this diagram?

1:34:46

Where did it go?

1:34:47

There it is.

1:34:48

So here we go.

1:34:50

So what this does, let me start down with the five residents.

1:34:53

Let's start down here with these five residents right here.

1:34:56

The 400, uh, did Jeremy ever get the final quotes from we haven't received it yet.

1:35:01

Okay, but we are we haven't received it yet, is what Mr.

1:35:03

Ancher said, but we are estimating 400 to 450,000, so it's still over original project cost of 300.

1:35:10

But what it would do is take pick up Houser Road water line right here, and we bring it all the way down to the end, and then we would pick up all these residents.

1:35:18

And part of the document that we're talking about is the water line because of the way the houses were built and the right-of-way dedications, it would end up in private property.

1:35:26

So we would just what they're signing is allowing the city to have basically utility easement within the right-of-way to put the pipeline in, correct, Matt?

1:35:36

Give or take.

1:35:37

You want to come up and explain the agreement.

1:35:39

Thank you.

1:35:41

Essentially, what it is is is the 50-foot dedication of right-of-way is to dedicate the additional right-of-way on houser road to uh facilitate the waterline expansion, the meters, the services going up to the property line.

1:35:58

Uh we went out there and looked at it, and most of the fences are built at 50 feet already.

1:36:04

Uh there's a current 33-foot dedication of easement from the 1920 dedication of roadways.

1:36:10

And so we're really the only thing that we're requesting is additional 17 feet from the properties to meet the right-of-way, which is to the to the east of that to have a consistent right-of-way going across.

1:36:24

But like I said, the the houses and the fences that are built are already set back 50 feet from the center line.

1:36:31

Perfect layman's terms.

1:36:34

Oh man, so thank you, Matt.

1:36:36

So that like he said, we'll have that line in his his words.

1:36:40

We'll have the line put in here, and then these this line that was mentioned would get abandoned.

1:36:45

This whole and which is a uh it's it's just it's not a good line.

1:36:49

It's it's a substandard line that's been in there for 20 plus years.

1:36:51

It has numerous leaks, 20 25, 45, 4 or 5.

1:36:56

I get four or five from the audience, I'll take four or five bob.

1:37:00

So um but thank you, Marl.

1:37:03

Um so that substandard line does have to be replaced uh without a doubt.

1:37:07

Our water division superintendent, he's uh recommending it.

1:37:11

So we would abandon that line again.

1:37:13

These residents would all have a new line, new connections.

1:37:16

Part of the cost is that um we would the city and the contract be paying to hook up the new lines to the houses.

1:37:22

Generally under code, any new water lines that are run, it's the residents' responsibility to pay from the meter to their home.

1:37:28

Here we would be paying the meter to the home as part of this project cost.

1:37:31

So we've got that piece.

1:37:33

We would no longer be doing this piece on North Indian Trail, and then what we would be doing is leaving this line in place to this utility easement right here, and that's where this map comes into play.

1:37:45

A new meter would be put in right there at uh Ms.

1:37:48

Shoe's neighbor's property, which is Mr.

1:37:50

Yoder's, and a new line for 660 feet would then go across uh Ms.

1:37:55

Shoe's property and connect into the previous connection to service her house.

1:37:59

So no more would there be a line running through Ms.

1:38:02

Shoe's property that we'd have to service, we would service these lines and any stuff right here, that water line would all be on Ms.

1:38:09

Shoe's property.

1:38:10

And after the warranty period, if there's anything that comes up or there's an issue or uh on that line, it would then be the Ms.

1:38:17

You and her husband's responsibility to repair that line.

1:38:19

The city would only be responsible for the line up to the property.

1:38:22

No, a water line like that, Matt might be able to answer this.

1:38:26

A waterline like that of 660 feet that's been brand new and buried properly and reinforced.

1:38:32

That's correct.

1:38:33

How long?

1:38:34

What's the lifespan of that line?

1:38:36

Yeah, that's our P PVC line.

1:38:38

We we we see PVC services that sometimes last for 20 to 30 years, copper services last can sometimes last for 40 or 50 years.

1:38:47

Okay.

1:38:48

And that would be a PVC service.

1:38:50

That's correct.

1:38:52

Could the homeowner opt to chip in to put that into a copper line?

1:38:56

They could.

1:38:57

That's certainly an option if the homeowners wanted to do that.

1:39:00

That's a discussion that the homeowners would have to have with us.

1:39:04

We we realize that that would just option, yeah.

1:39:10

So I asked a question, do I have to go up there?

1:39:14

We prefer it up here at the podium so that you pick up on the mic.

1:39:18

Yeah.

1:39:20

Your name, please.

1:39:21

Uh Robert Shu.

1:39:22

You can call me Bob, spell it backwards is the same.

1:39:25

So you're gonna then use the substandard line, and so no maintenance is gonna be done to that substandard line from the corner of uh Charleston and Indian Trail through the Yoder property line.

1:39:39

Is that a correct statement?

1:39:40

So you're gonna attach us to a substandard line that that really needs to be replaced.

1:39:47

No, this line is good.

1:39:49

The the line, this line coming off of uh North Indian, that's a good line.

1:39:54

We don't have any issues with breakage or anything on that line.

1:39:56

It's this line going north-south along your property and the Yoders.

1:40:00

That's the substandard line that feeds the five residents that have the issues with the waters.

1:40:04

This one goes away.

1:40:06

This would be abandoned in place.

1:40:07

Okay, what is the what is the material used for the line that's behind the odors?

1:40:14

This line, I believe it's three inch PVC, correct, Matt.

1:40:17

I mean that's code.

1:40:21

I believe it's larger than three inches.

1:40:23

Okay, it's three inch PVC.

1:40:27

And that's code.

1:40:28

I believe it is.

1:40:29

It's been Matt, any zoom in it.

1:40:35

It says three inch PVC on it.

1:40:37

Yeah.

1:40:41

So if I need answer that question, that line will be upsize two to a six-inch or an eighth PVC.

1:40:48

From where?

1:40:49

From along the oh, you do okay.

1:40:52

You pick it up at six inches reduced six initial line.

1:41:01

And then it would be re-metered at this point, and then the 660 feet would pick up on the shoe property after that.

1:41:08

That's correct.

1:41:09

Okay, one other question.

1:41:11

I mean, you were talking options here.

1:41:13

I mean, if you increase that or you know, lengthen that line to behind our entire house, you can almost eliminate um 660 feet of line coming in and and hook up there, you know, somewhere in the backyard um at a much you know smaller distance.

1:41:33

Well that discussion needs to be done with this more discussion and more options taken here to be looked at to be considered.

1:41:40

If we continue to look at options, it'll continue to delay the project.

1:41:44

What we're here tonight to do is to get council's guidance on whether we move with the staff recommended option at a lesser cost than the $606,000 of the original project, and even though it's over $300, or we the other option that we can do is we know that this is the substandard line that's causing all the issues.

1:42:03

The city is prepared to go in and acquire the utility easement for this line, and then we could just replace this entire line to a line that's more suitable for the water flow in here, keep everybody the way they are, and it actually is lesser than the 300,000 dollars.

1:42:19

But that would require involving our city attorney and taking dedicated right-aways from this area to essentially create a utility easement.

1:42:27

That's the cheapest option.

1:42:28

How can it be cheaper to run the water line all the way for 1200 feet than to run the water line just from the corner of the orders to our backyard?

1:42:38

That doesn't make it.

1:42:39

Because we also have to do the houser water line project.

1:42:42

We also have to do the houser line.

1:42:43

So if we don't so if we do option the second option is we do we do not do the houser road line, we do not run it.

1:42:51

We leave everything in place as is, except for we come in as a city and we acquire the right-of-way dedications needed to have a utility easement here.

1:42:59

We replace this line because this line is the one that's breaking.

1:43:03

We leave everything in place as it is.

1:43:05

That would be the cheapest option, which doesn't it still makes doesn't do anything down here, but when you're looking at projects and cost analysis and options, that would be the cheapest.

1:43:16

Anything else in this would be you know, this what we're proposing right now, and with the direction of council would be we could do a one-for-one for next CIP.

1:43:26

But if we want to continue to have option discussions and meet with residents and determine what is a better one for everybody, we're just the project will be pushed out further if that's one more year is not gonna.

1:43:38

I mean, didn't push back for 24 years.

1:43:40

My question is why can't it be done in two sections?

1:43:44

That's we we can we yeah, we can look at that, like you said earlier.

1:43:48

We can definitely look at a phased option approach.

1:43:51

It's just if the residents and yourself are just okay that we push that out longer.

1:43:56

I mean, that's really what we're here about.

1:43:57

Is this the project we want to keep pushing down the road or does we want to get a finality to it?

1:44:06

And it would be it would make more sense to push it off a year.

1:44:09

Okay, you know, not reallocate the money and keep it.

1:44:12

I mean, I understand if you have the case to keep it there, but keep it there and let's have some serious conversations about making it work not only for the city, but you know, for the residents too.

1:44:24

I'm confused.

1:44:26

I think it was a very good question.

1:44:28

The new line which would go the diagonal hook up behind yeah, this line.

1:44:37

Uh what's the difference?

1:44:38

I think that was the question of running the hookup straight across on the uh on Charleston.

1:44:45

And replace yeah, replacing the existing line with that straight line.

1:44:49

Exactly.

1:44:50

Uh I'm just I'm just short.

1:44:52

I didn't hear the council the answer to that.

1:44:54

I have an answer, but you council and first if you wanted to sorry.

1:45:01

I'm sorry, thank you.

1:45:03

Go back to the that picture and zoom out a little bit more.

1:45:08

Okay, that's what I wanted to see.

1:45:09

So my question is in that kind of along what council member Snyder's that line there on Charleston.

1:45:17

Okay, we do Hauser with that water line.

1:45:20

We also look at Charleston, that line extending that out until um so it doesn't zigzag across the yard the way it does.

1:45:31

Because we're gonna be looking at future growth in this area anyway.

1:45:35

Um I think it would benefit us.

1:45:37

I know it's gonna cost us some money, but I think in the long run, it will benefit us to bring those water lines, those larger water lines out a little bit further, as in the shoes suggested, um, because all it's gonna do is increase um future growth over there because you can see where Sunland Gin Road is.

1:45:56

Um and I mean that's all everything right now north of there is ours.

1:46:01

We don't know what's gonna happen with the sheds farm going south.

1:46:06

Um that's all right now currently county.

1:46:09

And so I think it would benefit us if we can uh I'm not gonna say if we can afford it, but if it's not going to be so prohibitive that we look at increasing bringing both of those lines across because I think in the long run it's only gonna benefit us.

1:46:25

And and it it'll benefit the shoes, it'll benefit you know all of those residences out there, but I think for future growth, we need to start looking at that.

1:46:34

And then I noticed in the one picture, there's so we used to have sewer lines out there.

1:46:42

No, these these houses are all served by septic.

1:46:45

Well, it says X sewer leech field.

1:46:47

Right, that's an existing leach field from a septic tank.

1:46:50

From a septic tank.

1:46:51

Okay, that's what I wasn't sure.

1:46:52

I wanted to know that.

1:46:54

So thank you.

1:47:00

I guess I'm looking, you could run that housing uh houser water line over and hit those uh three properties on Hauser.

1:47:09

And still abandon and run the one line on Charleston over to the shoes, and you still abandon that line in between.

1:47:18

And and that was the original proposal that we had submitted.

1:47:21

We had designed, and that was the proposal that came in at $650,000.

1:47:27

Yeah, but again, like point if you're gonna use an interior line.

1:47:33

I mean, you've got a three-inch line back here, so whether it had things in it now or not, kind of yeah, and that that's uh the the big question here is you know, when we originally did it, it was it was cost effective.

1:47:50

It was it was a three hundred thousand dollar projected.

1:47:52

Now we're up into the sixes and anything else we do could be more.

1:47:55

So that's really where we're looking for direction from the council is do we continue to evaluate this project because at the end of the day you're getting up to almost if if you run extend Charleston and Houser almost to Sunland, you're looking at a million dollar project.

1:48:09

So do you want to invest a million dollars or six hundred and fifty thousand dollars into a project that benefits five, six residents?

1:48:17

I'll put it in comparison on the CIP book.

1:48:20

We're doing a whole blue tank rehab project for six hundred and fifty thousand dollars for all of our citizens.

1:48:26

So it's let me ask this question.

1:48:28

I'm still confused.

1:48:30

If you run the houser water line only, and uh abandon the current line that runs between north and south, abandon that line and kept the line, current line, current situation on Charleston.

1:48:48

Uh what I'm hearing is they put up for 20 some years, you know, they could wait longer so we could split those two projects and take care of uh the line on houser.

1:48:57

What would those costs be?

1:48:59

Well, if we do the line on houser, we I don't know.

1:49:03

That's a good question.

1:49:04

That's what we're here for.

1:49:05

If council would like to just kind of if council is okay and it sounds like the potential residents are okay too, we would forego adding this project on to the CIP at this point for the budget this year, and then go back to the drawing table and look at some of these other options, a phase approach work with the shoes and other residents in the area and pretend and then come back to council with a new idea with some cost analysis, maybe option one, two, three, and then get a better idea, and then we would we would program that uh into next fiscal year's budget 2526 CIP or 2627, whatever however the funding allocation works in at that point.

1:49:40

Well, I think I'd like to see this phased.

1:49:43

Okay.

1:49:44

If we did some money in the CIP this year for Hauser, and then they okay, let's get that part of it done, and what could we do in the meantime for Charleston?

1:49:55

What what's the options and maybe look at that next year?

1:49:58

Is that something like that acceptable?

1:50:00

Certainly.

1:50:01

Yeah, but I'll just pass my meter and it'd be fine.

1:50:04

Temporarily.

1:50:05

Yeah, Mr.

1:50:05

Shoe's talking about right about here is where that is.

1:50:08

Right, Mr.

1:50:09

Shu?

1:50:09

I'm sorry.

1:50:10

This is the isn't this um yeah, right around that corner.

1:50:14

Yeah, that's I mean it's a little bit down where the meter is, yes.

1:50:17

But not that far.

1:50:20

Right about where that tree is.

1:50:21

Yeah, a little bit north.

1:50:23

We're in the general position.

1:50:25

All right.

1:50:28

Right.

1:50:28

And then are you then uh eliminate the need for the five to go and south to the five water meters that are down there that are like a star all the houses, do your houser line, cash down, cat bars, and yoders and ours stay the same as it is right now until future need to reset to the six inch line to be the code.

1:50:54

And if I may, we actually when we sent it out for for their proposal from our contract, we actually had it phased out so that the houser bid the houser road project phase of the project, if you will, came in at 407.

1:51:07

We also 47,000.

1:51:09

We also had a big alternate for the Charleston line.

1:51:12

So we already pretty much have it split up in in a different in a different phase.

1:51:16

It's just going through the saying, yes, we we accept this when we we reject the bid alternate.

1:51:22

So it looks to me like the general consensus here is we'll start the phase one of the houser, make that the phase one.

1:51:29

Excuse me.

1:51:31

I thought we were coming back with phased approaches to the phased approach, yes.

1:51:35

And yeah, we're not adding anything into the budget this year.

1:51:38

Yeah, that is correct.

1:51:39

Is the good is that good?

1:51:40

Just making the plan.

1:51:42

Yeah.

1:51:42

Yeah, we're gonna make we're gonna reconvene on this.

1:51:44

Um we'll work with Mr.

1:51:45

Lyle and make sure that he gets a more appropriate layman's term document so he understands what he's signing and hopefully that works out good for him.

1:51:53

Um in that's not that's probably well we still gotta get the we still get in order to do any of the phases of this project, we still gotta get the that's what I'm recapping.

1:52:04

So I understand clearly what what we're doing here is number one is Mr.

1:52:09

Lyle needs to sign.

1:52:10

If we if Mr.

1:52:11

if we're gonna do the houser water line project, Mr.

1:52:13

Lyle, we need Mr.

1:52:14

Lyle's signature to access those easements.

1:52:16

If he doesn't sign, there's no project because we can't hook everybody up correctly.

1:52:21

So he so him being the holdout means that we once I means that we we can't do it.

1:52:26

We we gotta have him sign.

1:52:27

Um everybody else is signed, that's for the extension, otherwise that puts a huge kink.

1:52:31

So that's number one.

1:52:31

And I'm sorry, Marlowe.

1:52:34

Oh, you're good.

1:52:38

Okay.

1:52:39

All right.

1:52:40

Thanks, Marla.

1:52:41

Yes, can I have the owners only temporary?

1:52:45

It no access to the dedicated portion at the same time.

1:52:49

No, that Matt, you want to sure access to his property, yes, is temporary, but the right-of-way dedication of the additional seventeen feet is a permanent dedication.

1:53:00

So is that gonna go past his fence line?

1:53:03

No, his fence line is is set back at about 50 feet.

1:53:06

There it is, right?

1:53:07

That's exactly what he needs to know.

1:53:09

What you just said.

1:53:10

Yeah, um we give it to my own fence.

1:53:13

Is everything in front of the fence?

1:53:15

South of the fence is good.

1:53:16

Yeah, yes, it is, and and we actually went out with with our surveyors and and with our engineering team to to verify and without doing a full boundary survey, everything appears to be south of all the existing fences.

1:53:29

Great.

1:53:30

The physical water line act where where is it physically going to be?

1:53:34

In the road?

1:53:35

I mean, is the road dug up or is it in the bar edge or right along here, right?

1:53:40

Matt?

1:53:42

That'll be in the road?

1:53:44

Yes.

1:53:45

So there's their fences right about there, and then the water line will be going in right about here.

1:53:50

So really the fences and the property, okay.

1:53:57

That's correct.

1:53:58

There is no impact to the to the existing structures.

1:54:03

Okay.

1:54:04

Okay, so number one, we got Mr.

1:54:06

Lyle.

1:54:06

We'll we'll get him squared away with a good letter and get him cleared up so we can get that finalized on the signatures.

1:54:12

Number two, is go back to the drawing table.

1:54:15

We've got a couple options that we can look out to phase this out so that it isn't a huge hit all at once.

1:54:20

So we can look at maintaining um additional build out for for future endeavors.

1:54:27

So we'll look at um one just doing Matt's worked up some already, but we'll put together more comprehensive package.

1:54:33

One is just doing the houser line as phase one that gets those residents south of the shoes and Mr.

1:54:39

Yoder on a new line, and then potentially coming back up as a phase two approach and extending Charleston, and then that'll hook them the shoes up to uh a new line from North Indian Trail over.

1:54:51

So that'll be a three to a six-inch line.

1:54:53

We'll get some quotes on that as well.

1:54:55

And then we'll we'll toss in some of the other ones we talked about tonight just so that we've got the whole picture of what we're all looking at.

1:55:01

And then we do um then finally that we all understand that we will not be putting it on the CIP, so we'll leave the CIP projects the way they are for off Y 2425, and we'll come up with which one we're gonna do work session council discussion and agreements of how we'll do the projects and add that into the future budgeting for next fiscal year 25-26.

1:55:25

Is that no go ahead?

1:55:29

That means then what?

1:55:31

Yeah.

1:55:31

That means then if you do get the right-of-way next month.

1:55:35

Two months from now, the project will not start for at least a year.

1:55:40

We gotta decide.

1:55:41

Yeah, well, we'd have to decide on what we're gonna do with the project.

1:55:44

Yes, of course.

1:55:45

Yep.

1:55:45

So where's the money that's been allocated for this?

1:55:49

Where is it gonna go?

1:55:51

Yeah, where's it going?

1:55:52

Are they gonna be sucked away and then we're starting from no dollars allow for this?

1:55:57

Yes.

1:55:58

Well what we did is when we removed it from the CIP is we reallocated it to other projects within the CIP so that we could afford to do them.

1:56:04

Matt re basically, you know, lack of a better terms, restack the deck.

1:56:09

Taking the $300,000.

1:56:10

Now we were able to put that in a couple of other projects and get those done in the meantime.

1:56:14

But knowing that we've got it, you know, we're gonna be looking at this project in a potential range.

1:56:19

We can evaluate the projects that are if you well, I don't have the budget book up, Brian does, but what we could do is look at those projects in the next year and four years out and see how we would restack those to be able to form four.

1:56:32

Yeah, it's a five-year capital project.

1:56:34

So we've got when you take that three hundred, Matt kind of sprinkled it amongst other projects within the five years.

1:56:40

So now we just gotta come back and say, you know, which ones can we pull from or reduce from or rework so that we can have that four to you know potentially six hundred thousand or more.

1:56:52

Excuse me.

1:56:54

What's the estimate cost then?

1:56:56

Sorry?

1:56:57

What is the cost then going to be?

1:57:00

I don't know.

1:57:00

That's a good magic eight ball question, but yeah, we're do our best.

1:57:04

Excuse me, sorry, we'll do our best working with the contractors to estimate those costs in the in the outlying years.

1:57:11

I mean, best estimate is we're we're pretty good for a year out on projects, but when you start getting two, three years out, it it gets a little sketchy because we just don't know what the market's going to be at that point.

1:57:21

And why we're fortunate that horizontal infrastructure costs have slightly come down or normalized over the last several months to a year.

1:57:29

Who knows what's gonna happen?

1:57:30

We we do our best, and if cost goes up throughout that time, then we then we make that adjustment.

1:57:36

That's why we do it every year.

1:57:37

We look at those projects we take each year and go, okay, here's what we got.

1:57:40

What are those projects in two, three, four, five and make adjustments each year in iteration with the budget?

1:57:46

Yeah.

1:57:48

So there's hope that there's going to be money that's gonna be pulled that are gonna be pulled from when this project comes comes up to actually be constructed.

1:57:59

I know you've already reallocated the money.

1:58:01

Right.

1:58:01

But to actually have some money that's been dedicated to this after all these years, now have it gone.

1:58:07

Price is going up.

1:58:08

I have concerns that it's not going to come together.

1:58:11

Well, we've got uh council direction tonight that that is their prerogative that we re-evaluate the options and then throughout this year we will take those options to them and I think and then get an idea of what it'll cost, and council will vote on funding allocations and Mr.

1:58:26

Wright has a question.

1:58:27

Well, no, oh comment.

1:58:29

Also in the coming up, we have the loans that the rate loans paid for those funds.

1:58:37

This would be a project that would do because we have rate increases that go in effect to five year.

1:58:44

This is a third year of it in years four and five.

1:58:48

The rate increases that go in effect.

1:58:51

Well, essentially fund capital projects outline that we have in our CIP that are eligible for WIFA funding for USDA.

1:59:00

Either one of those in this project would be business to current home.

1:59:04

So there will be a dedicated revenue source through the the loans through the pay balance or loans from the rate increase to pay for that.

1:59:14

Yep.

1:59:15

Thank you.

1:59:16

Very much.

1:59:17

Thank you, Brian.

1:59:19

Well done, sir.

1:59:20

The key is good, the CIP.

1:59:22

Yes, correct.

1:59:27

All right, we've got direction from council.

1:59:29

We'll move forward with that and be in contact with uh Ms.

1:59:32

Shu and Mr.

1:59:33

Shue and I'm sorry, what was your name again?

1:59:39

Marie Frazier.

1:59:41

Marie Frasier, thank you, Miss Frazier, and make sure we communicate clearly and get you guys all on the same page and move forward.

1:59:47

All right, thank you.

1:59:48

Uh thank you, Council members.

1:59:52

Oh, Sarah.

1:59:54

Hi, Sarah.

1:59:55

Hey guys, sorry, I'm on the phone.

1:59:56

I just have to look at I just wanted to make a quick comment.

2:00:00

I'm really uh happy that you all are called screen on this, uh David, the shoes and the neighbors and the other council members because this has been going on for some time, so I'm excited to see it get talked about, and thank you for gonna put it back in the five-year CIP or potentially next year or a split project.

2:00:21

Um and I really like the comment from family members for Mango about getting it done right because you know this area may have another picture development.

2:00:29

So thanks everybody for working together tonight.

2:00:33

Thank you, sir.

2:00:35

Can I make one more comment or statement statement?

2:00:38

Or all people in Houser Road there, specifically me, my wife, yeah, Marie, you know.

2:00:48

We would be more than willing to you know help with any discussions or uh options or whatnot.

2:00:55

If citizens are able to do that.

2:00:58

Thank you.

2:00:59

We just need to know what's gonna happen, and we'd be more than happy to participate in both thank you for that.

2:01:06

Go on.

2:01:08

Thank you, Councilman.

2:01:09

Um I have seen some pictures of some current water lines out there that need to be addressed.

2:01:15

They are out in the elements, they're not buried.

2:01:19

Um water has washed away some of the dirt, and that if we're gonna wait another year, two years, that needs to be addressed.

2:01:28

So I'm sure the shoes can show the city where those lines are at, but um that needs to be fixed at least um temporarily until uh another band-aid to what they've been already tolerating from us for the last long time.

2:01:46

So um if the city could make sure that that gets addressed, I'd appreciate it.

2:01:51

Thank you.

2:01:53

We do appreciate your consideration.

2:01:55

Thank you.

2:01:56

Thank you.

2:01:56

All right, anybody else have anything going on?

2:02:00

Do I get a motion to adjourn?

2:02:01

Oh, I I got a finish.

2:02:04

Not that I'm in a hurry or nothing.

2:02:06

I just want to finish up with the this last thing, is this is just the budget calendar.

2:02:11

I just want to update council.

2:02:13

What is the next steps?

2:02:14

So after tonight, um on June 10th, that's a regular council meeting.

2:02:20

We'll bring back where we need to adopt the uh tentative budget.

2:02:25

That's schedules A through G.

2:02:28

That's the that's our odd uh our report.

2:02:31

So I'll bring back a uh the tentative budget on June 10th.

2:02:36

We will then on starting on June 13th and June 20th, there'll be publications in the paper.

2:02:43

We'll get that run for the publications uh that we needed, and then on uh June 27th, that's a special council meeting that's like a Thursday.

2:02:53

We have to do that on a Thursday because we have to do timelines of when it is, it'll take like 10 minutes or so.

2:03:01

We just come in, we hold a public hearing for the property tax, we hold the final public hearing on the budget and then adopt the final budget.

2:03:10

So um we'll send out reminders um on that June 27, but that is uh that'd be a special meeting.

2:03:18

I think it's a Thursday, it'd be we could do it um 5:30, 6 o'clock, whatever council desires, but I just wanted to point that out.

2:03:28

Then the last step is adoption of the property tax, which would be a regular council meeting on July 8th.

2:03:34

So I needed to uh just make note of those dates, so council would be aware, but um seems like a few of the directors got to speak.

2:03:43

I don't know if anybody wants to come up here.

2:03:45

I know Paul and Dan will look like they're they're dying to get up here too.

2:03:49

Or but uh no, thank you very much.

2:03:58

If you if anybody has any questions, please uh uh send me an email and I'll address those uh questions.

2:04:03

No, thank you, Brian, for all you and your team did putting all this together.

2:04:07

It was very good and uh very uh very concise.

2:04:12

Go ahead.

2:04:13

Last item is this council wish to have a meeting tomorrow.

2:04:16

We've got we usually do two days tonight and tomorrow.

2:04:19

If uh council's pleasure, you're all set, don't have any questions, and we can cancel tomorrow's meeting.

2:04:26

Why not?

2:04:37

All right, so I think we're not gonna have tomorrow's meeting.

2:04:42

Thank you.

2:04:42

Okay, now does anybody else have anything?

2:04:47

Can I get a motion to adjourn?

2:04:50

So move.

2:04:51

All right, a second.

2:04:53

Thank you.

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Summary of Proceedings

Eloy City Council Budget Work Session - May 20, 2024

The Eloy City Council held a budget work session on Monday, May 20, 2024, at 5:30 PM in the City Council Chambers. The meeting focused on reviewing the proposed tentative FY 2024-2025 budget and discussing a long-standing water line project on Houser Road. The total proposed budget is $75,266,235, an increase of over $11.6 million from the previous year, driven primarily by economic development reserves, capital projects, and sewer line expansion.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Marla Shu (60 West Houser Road) spoke about the Houser Road water line project, which has been unresolved for 24 years. She described the existing water line as substandard (placed a few inches under grade using outdated materials) and urged the council to address it, even if split into two phases. She noted that money had been allocated in the past but the project had stalled.
  • Marie Frazier (neighbor) addressed the issue of the holdout neighbor (Mr. Lyle) who had not signed right-of-way documents. She explained that Mr. Lyle did not understand the legal language and feared losing property. She offered to help communicate with him in layman's terms and requested that the city send a clearer explanation.

Discussion Items

  • FY 2024-2025 Budget Overview (Brian, Finance Director)
    • The total budget of $75,266,235 includes $5 million for economic development, $2.3 million for sanitation capital improvements, and $4.7 million for a sewer line expansion from the plant to 11 Mile Corner. Capital improvements total $18.4 million, including $2.8 million in road projects, $2.1 million in airport projects, and $7.6 million in water/wastewater enhancements.
    • Personnel costs of $13.7 million include a 4% general increase effective July 1, 2024, a new pay scale with a starting rate of $14.54/hour, and reclassification of a public works operations manager to deputy director. The budget also includes a $5 million reserve for economic development and a $1.1 million general fund contingency.
    • Staff presented detailed breakdowns of each fund: street fund ($3.6 million, decrease of $450,185), streets one-time fund ($1.93 million, increase of $1 million due to pavement project on Sunshine and Santa Cruz), capital projects fund ($3.6 million, 27% increase), economic and community development fund ($1.8 million, increase of $742,000), and various impact fee funds (parks, police, water, wastewater, streets) with no projects identified.
    • Enterprise funds: water fund ($5 million, slight decrease), sewer fund ($7.8 million, increase of $3.3 million mainly due to sewer line extension), sanitation fund ($4.66 million, increase of $2.4 million due to capital upgrades).
    • General fund departments were reviewed: city council ($311,180), city clerk ($56,235), HR ($387,405), city manager ($691,295), magistrate court ($646,190), finance ($1.04 million), legal ($164,845), community development ($1.25 million), police administration ($1.65 million), field operations ($4.28 million), animal control ($200,000).
    • Councilmember Schneider noted that many funds have unallocated balances and questioned whether the city could use them for grant matches. Staff explained that most funds are restricted by state law or court mandates.
  • Houser Road Water Line Project
    • The project was originally budgeted at $300,000 but was removed from the CIP because of right-of-way acquisition delays and a revised cost estimate of $650,000 for the full scope. Staff presented two options: Option 1 (staff recommended) would replace the substandard line and extend Houser Road water line for $400,000-$450,000, but requires Mr. Lyle's signature. Option 2 would simply replace the failing line within the existing easement at lower cost but without serving all residents.
    • Councilmember Tarango suggested phasing the project: first complete the Houser Road portion, then address the Charleston extension later. Council agreed to revisit the project, work with Mr. Lyle on a clearer explanation, and bring phased options back for future budgeting. The project will not be added to the FY 2024-2025 CIP.

Key Outcomes

  • Budget Direction: Council received the budget overview and gave general direction to proceed. The tentative budget will be adopted at the regular council meeting on June 10, 2024, with a public hearing and final adoption scheduled for a special meeting on June 27, 2024, and property tax adoption on July 8, 2024.
  • Second Budget Work Session Canceled: Council agreed to cancel the second day of budget work sessions (May 21) as no further questions remained.
  • Houser Road Water Line: Council directed staff to:
    1. Work with Mr. Lyle by providing a simplified, layman's explanation of the right-of-way dedication to secure his signature.
    2. Develop phased options (e.g., Phase 1: Houser Road line; Phase 2: Charleston extension) with cost estimates.
    3. Bring the phased options back to council for discussion and future CIP budgeting (FY 2025-2026 or later). No funds are allocated for this project in the current fiscal year.

Meeting Transcript

I will be starting in a few minutes in about another minute or so, okay. Okay, sound good. Okay. I I forgot. Oh, okay. Councilmember Sutton, I have 531. Thank you, Mayor. At this time, I'd like to welcome you all to the City of Eloy Council Chambers and Work Session. Today's date is Monday, May 20th. It is 5 30 p.m. Mary, may I get a roll call, please? Yes. Councilmember Sutton. Here. Councilmember Wonavalto Rodriguez. Here. Vice Mayor Curtis. And for the record, Councilmember Sutton, uh, Vice Mayor Curtis will be participating by phone tonight. Okay. Okay. Mayor Powell called in. Councilmember Snyder. Here. I think I hear Councilmember Garcia coming in now. Yep. That's all right. I just called your name if you want to say present. Present. Councilmember Tarango. Here. Thank you. Thank you, Mary. At this time, we all stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which the stands one nation under God, individual for liberty and justice for all. So at this time on the item number four, on scheduled public appearances. Could you sign in now? You could yeah, you can sign in now, then do it. Councilmember Sutton, do you want me to put the timer up? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And when you're ready, just uh state your name and address and uh you'll see the timer. Oh don't start it yet. Mortal shoe, sixty ten West Houser Road. I'm here to um bring to light some information about the Houser Road water line project. It's been in the works for 24 years. Um from my perspective, the water line was placed there uh 45 years ago by a developer. Um when we moved there, um we weren't really sure where the water line was. We found out where it was and found out that it was there basically placed a few inches under grade um materials that haven't been used for a long time and it's just kind of a mess. Been asking for 24 years if um I've talked to every city um city uh manager from Harvey uh from Harvey from Jim McFhelan all the way to David Um asking for consideration to have something done with this water line.

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