1:08Okay, good evening everyone.
1:10Uh I would like to call this uh meeting of the evening pointing and zooming commissioner meeting to order.
1:17Today is Wednesday, March 11th, 2026, and the time is 630 p.m.
1:25Maybe we have a roll call, please.
1:29Ex officio mayor second.
1:38Commissioner Whitman.
1:40Commissioner Nollin Beagle.
1:48Commissioner Fosetto.
1:51Commissioner Crawford.
1:58And Chairman Paulson.
2:05I will not give a steam for point of the agents, please.
2:36Uh public appearances.
2:37I didn't have anyone sign there.
2:44No public appearances tonight.
2:48Uh motion to approve the February 18th, 2026 meeting minutes of the planning and zoning commission.
2:57I'll make a motion to approve.
2:59Can you have a motion or have a second?
3:11Commissioner Whitman?
3:15Commissioner Fosetto.
3:18Commissioner Crawford.
3:24Abstain and I wasn't here.
3:26And Chairman Paulton.
3:29Okay, motion carries unanimously.
3:33Okay, moving on the item six.
3:35This is a consent agenda.
3:37What this means is all items listed as well, but all items listed on the consent agenda will be an answer by one motion and one roll call vote of the planning zone commission.
3:53So requests, and then it'll be a separate discussion to have uh have another item in the item will be removed from the consent agenda and considering this now sequence on the agenda.
4:05The commission shall conduct a public hearing and possibly take action on the following.
4:13Oh item one, I'm sorry.
4:15Case number CP 2025-011.
4:20It's the Park 18 Freeburg Outdoor Storage.
4:25This is a request for a conditional use permit to allow outdoor storage on the property zone Long Industrial Island located at 5610 North Summon June Road.
4:41Do we have any discussion or anything?
4:44Yeah, I have a question.
4:53If you did a Google search for it, it showed that particular address out in a the middle of a field, but uh apparently things have changed since Tantus.
5:03But there's also a condition of approval number number three specifies a six foot high fence and there was a citizen approval report that said it was going to be an eight foot high fence so I'm wondering if we can change that to eight foot high without taking it off consent.
5:23I I see a net nod some members of the commission that's that's fine the maximum height for these fences because the minimum six maximum eight feet um I just wanted to make sure they had six feet but if you want to make it so that that the fence shall be eight feet your recommendation be recommendation of approval with condition three uh change to a maximum of uh eight feet or um eight feet thank you okay anything else okay doesn't look like it so do I have a motion to approve with those stipulation changes I'd like to motion to approve with the stipulation changes to eight feet okay thank you we have a second can you have a motion we have a second roll call please Commissioner Lopez Commissioner Whitman I Commissioner Gunn Commissioner Facetto I Commissioner Crawford I Vice Chair Tolson and Chairman Paulson.
6:41I motion to thank you very much.
6:45Oh did I skip 50 okay moving on to item number seven new business possible discussion on the following A general plan update status update and the public review period used by our very Mr.
7:09Well it depends you know for my certification this is American Institute of certified planners but some people say it's any idiot can plan like PhD and stuff like that.
7:23All right thank you certainly no it's not projecting it's projecting your screen but that's okay.
7:36Still well that's goofing up here.
7:39So the item before you today is an update on the general plan.
7:44If you do recall this past week I sent you all an email that we released the draft general plan out to the public to be in our 60 day review period.
7:55So we're going to be over kind of a high level agenda here with the process update participation update what the plan is there's some of this is a year it was all repetitive and we're at next so we're at if you recall this lovely graphic of process we started back here at lunch in April last year February staff started we did some early open stuff in uh March with the Roberson Ranch Simon sale and then we did the official kickoff with y'all last April is your actually one of your very first meetings.
8:35And we have gone through our discovery which we did a bunch of questions in the public and trying setting up our vision statement which we come into in vision where we did our even more talks open house which we had approximately 56 people show up on even more trouble in by himself I think but you know a lot of people showed up and some of y'all came to that meeting as well and to this uh the spring I'm sorry the fall we started doing a bunch of uh public interviews one on one we originally had 18 scheduled our bunch of I'll get to that later but we did a significant well and then going in to that throughout the rest of the year was the uh actually building of the plan this is where the the consultant emails to me and I scribbled on them and we took stuff to you guys talked about we went to the public outreach going okay to see what we think of revision this is what we think what our goals are this is what we think our aspiration statements is a really great concept and I'm very impressed with her because I don't I didn't think I would a box on this one.
9:44So and now we're about to start what's called the celebration phase which is here's a summary of all your the public input all your guys' input and ladies drafted into a plan that has goals and policies and narrative as well with a it's a robust plan.
10:05It's not as robust as some of your larger cities because we just don't have the financial wherewithal to do that.
10:12But the basis of this is where we're doing from the next 10, 20, 30, 50 years.
10:20So every 10 years we update the plan to go to our keep moving forward.
10:25So this is the update.
10:27So now we're we've released that draft and we're starting our 60-day public review comment.
10:34So we go to the city's website, on the very front page, there's a link that says general plan, and you're bringing it to this page.
10:41So on this main page here, you can go from the general planner to airport union.
10:45But since the general plan is where we're kicking off right now, you just click on that and then bring you to the markup drawing, so to speak.
10:54This is an application, it's called Crohn's, but it can you can actually add comments online and see other people's comments live on this document.
11:06So you put your name and email and say, I don't like this paragraph, I want this change, rework this this way.
11:12You can go through all hundred and some leaders of the document and add comments.
11:17It's a light reading.
11:22I think I did it in 24 hours over the weekend, and maybe actually 836 because I did it in Saturday and Sunday, and lots of conference here.
11:32But um, so take a lot of comments in there.
11:36But our public participation summary, this is outstanding.
11:39I worked in this communities, all this can be around that always comes in my head because it's burned in my brain, uh, because it was my first really major plan as well.
11:49It was in Scottsdale, I did work with the long-range plan, the downtown plan just for the downtown, just like we did with the airport.
11:56We had 800 people participate in that process.
11:59There's 265,000 residents in that city.
12:04Here, we had over 7500 engagements.
12:08What engagements means is people I've talked to, interviews, people that visited the website, uh, people that attended our workshops, our email talks of 51.
12:21We had 10 community events.
12:23I saw a lot of people out there.
12:25Um we originally budgeted for two.
12:29Uh I think I've spent over contingent budgets we won't, so there's not much left.
12:38This does not include our Facebook or our mailings.
12:43Our Facebook's our believing problem in the three or four thousand range, and our mailing direct mailings to uh through divider bills as well, we're 4,000.
12:55So this is just people that we have had contact, either they visited the website, or we have physical contact with.
13:03So this is outstanding.
13:05Our community outreach, we were about 55% spending.
13:10We had a 40% self-reporting on display, outstanding.
13:15Any community you work in, we're looking via five.
13:18So this was really, really great public outreach.
13:22So now we're going into that 60-day comment parents done last week, so you can go back to this page, take a look at it.
13:29I think I've included it all into your agenda, so you can read it there if you want some good time reading.
13:35Um, but it's important to take through and look at those concepts.
13:39Because these are the goals and policies that will be driving our plan.
13:44I'm going to skip ahead.
13:46The reason why this is important is the general plan is the primary policy document for the city.
13:52Sure, council sets their goals and there sets their individual policies, has their strategic plan.
13:57This is the community's goals and policies.
14:02The general plan is the primary policy of the citizens, it's available by the council and ratified by the citizens.
14:09And that sets the goals and policies for all future decisions.
14:15The plan is spoken up into three main sections.
14:19Your first part is your background, which is we have these themes going through.
14:25It's our class, how do we get here?
14:28How's the plan structured?
14:29Our foundation, the historical kind of context, the community outreach, and then we have all the initial outreach that came to a vision statement.
14:41From that information, we go into the next four chapters.
14:45And those four chapters are your main meat of the document.
14:49So we cover a bunch of concepts, and we'll kind of get into this a little bit later.
14:53But yeah, purposeful growth, prosperous economy, balanced environment, and resilient infrastructure.
15:00Believe it or not, I'll see in the next couple slides, how does this all work?
15:05And then at last, you have our strategies.
15:08This is your 10-year kind of plan, and sometimes you're going beyond that.
15:12This is over the next 10 years, and sometimes 15.
15:16How are we implementing these strategies?
15:18These are very high level, but these are major parts.
15:23So as I said earlier, your general plan, which is your main basis plan, your airport plan, which we just met on, sits in this level.
15:32Then you go to site plans, building plans, certificate of occupancy.
15:37This is a meaning that I added.
15:39When a building's done, it's just that's not the end of it.
15:43There's maintenance, there's ongoing, there's community uh programs and all this other stuff that goes on.
15:49So the community of our size, we're required to have the items in the wealth checklist, which is all space land, all the most land use.
16:00But we also have electives uh policies, which a lot of communities go around and beyond and addresses, you know, parks, downtown, economic growth.
16:10But the first set and the left hand column is what's required.
16:14As the city gets bigger, the ones in the right-hand column become required.
16:19You know, in fact, there's a lot more.
16:23So, how is the plan set up?
16:24We talked about how the chapters are, but it all comes down with our community outreach to the community vision statement.
16:33And then it goes into those four chapters, and each one of these chapters have a mini vision statement for that chapter, which grows over with this is all like a tree, kind of keeps growing down, you know, sets the aspiration of what we see for this particular chapter as a community.
16:52Uh we took all these comments, we removed them all up through and meet pizza out of it, throwing the government picked out a statement.
16:59And from there, goals and policies were written, and it lasts of those are your action items.
17:05Another way to look at it is here's our community vision statement.
17:09And this is a this is pretty powerful.
17:11This came from the community, we threw a bunch of stuff out there, they threw out ideas.
17:15Our consultants mitched it all together, they threw ideas out in the I tweaked that throughout the tweet that we threw out the public open house meetings, they tweaked it.
17:29But it is, it even grows with purpose, rooted in history, guided by community pride, focus on improving quality of life for all.
17:39As we develop and revitalize our neighborhoods, because we do have that.
17:43Strengthen our economy and invest in infrastructure.
17:47We remain a city that honors a small town chair while embracing the opportunity.
17:54And that is the main community guiding theme that goes into each one of those four chapters.
18:01You'll see in a few weeks, we'll be doing the virtual reality.
18:11You're gonna have an area near the airport, which is lower density, which is still kind of maintains that, and then you have the downtown, a little bit of the downtown main street, kind of walking through that theme.
18:24But the activity area it's it probably scares some people because it has all the different development types all in one, but it's an opportunity to see how it all can come together in a robust area.
18:36Obviously, they won't develop about that, but it can.
18:39So at the end, we have our implementation table, as I said, that has the individual goals, and they're broken up in short, mean, and long term, so short-term goals, uh, something we can do one to three years, one to five years, and mid, two, five to ten and beyond.
18:57And then we have ongoing.
18:58You know, there's one in here about subdivision um updates and ordinances.
19:04That's a short-term goal because we have to, but it's ongoing.
19:07It's kind of one of these things.
19:08Short-term, you need to do it right now, but it's continuously updating.
19:12We're constantly updating your ordinances.
19:14Uh, we haven't taken them in about a year, but if you remember, we did a whole bunch last year, my first year.
19:20Um, so we did those.
19:23Where we're at right now, we just talked about our 60-day review period.
19:27This is the opportunity to for you all to look at it.
19:30Uh we're thinking about if you would like coming back next month and just going through kind of a high level, more into each chapter and getting your individual input on those.
19:42Um that goes into May 3rd.
19:46In May, I'm gonna skip down the march here.
19:50March, we have the mobile immersion lab, that is the 3D virtual reality.
19:54So we'll have a curved on your own screen set up in the community room.
20:01A row and it walks you through these different concepts that we say.
20:06Higher density, lower density, uh the gateway to the air park.
20:10We it's a really cool thing I did.
20:12I asked I had them do, you know, it comes into Shed Road and tweetings as a roundabout as a uh a center spire kind of and then goes in what those uses can be around there.
20:24It's kind of this these are all theory, you know.
20:26How do we how do we think in the perfect pie that this will work?
20:30And then um within the next week, we'll finish up revision because constantly as comments are coming in, we're making modifications to the planning.
20:40Uh fortunately, we haven't had many right now.
20:43There's only been a week.
20:44And then we go into the planning commission for a formal recommendation.
20:48Subsequently, and we go into city council for their final adoption.
20:53And then after that, in November, it goes to the voters for ratification.
20:59Now, the general plan, unlike our major gender planning amendments, does not go into effect until the city council uh the voters ratify the document.
21:09If the ratification fails, the document fails.
21:14This becomes a unique period.
21:15After the council adopts that plan, staff can no longer put uh uh publicize or push the plan.
21:24It becomes the planning commissioners, our communities, and their council to build support.
21:30And going out to our community, say vote for the plan, vote for the plan.
21:34Because we decided, we the staff, it's just like any other electric election.
21:39We cannot participate in that process.
21:42So it's really important that we do that.
21:44We'll be sending out my with our water bills next month to get in for the next 60 days.
21:50Um get the second half of the 60 days, and then I'll probably be meeting push one out there in mid-June before council adopts it.
22:01So then I can't don't get caught up in a political thing, you know.
22:05But anyhow, but that's that's where we're at, and I'm happy to answer any questions you have at our time at this time of the commission.
22:17Um questions for our boss here.
22:25So it's under st as I understand uh the you want to take comments online because I I it was I spent several hours like you going through this stuff.
22:37I saw some things that were gave me a little concern.
22:42Um I guess overall, I know whether this is the time to say or not, but it's like there's some uh somebody who it's kind of a green new deal in the back and in the uh behind the scenes with some of the things that I'm seeing that would be uh one of the things was uh emphasis on prioritizing environmental issues, and uh there's one even that I think was cut and pasted from somewhere else with waterway caught canals and waterways for connectivity.
23:15I can't imagine how that would work down here.
23:18Um sure, I guess this is probably not the time to go through point by point and critique it.
23:25Uh absolutely correct.
23:30It's not the time or place to do that.
23:33Okay, so you can give us 30,000 football.
23:36Just giving us an update.
23:38So if you have uh input, get on our website and type in.
23:45Also, uh I would be more than happy to sit down with anymore individually, and I can also print out copies for you individually to mark up.
23:54Um let's talk about the canals.
23:55Uh our current plan actually uses our canal ways.
23:59So is uh that actually came from our current plan and kind of expanded on that.
24:03But um it's not well ordered, but if you look at the trails master plan, it's in there.
24:08So we're gonna what they're looking at is on that particular comment is use our utilizing our existing washes that are very difficult to see until you actually get down at an aerial level and you actually can see the Santonian wash and all that.
24:23That's where they're getting at.
24:24So we're happy to tweak the verb, which this is this is the perfect time to tweak the verbiage.
24:39Any input questions?
24:43Okay, there's a little click.
24:45Okay, thank you again.
24:47Appreciate the update, and we look forward to doing that in the future.
24:56All right, moving on to it number eight, informational item.
25:02This is the planning resident commission members and staff.
25:05We'll update the public unrelevant events and activities.
25:10They're in attendance since the last meeting.
25:17These items are for information only, and no action will be taken.
25:26Well, thank you, Mr.
25:28Members of the Commission.
25:30I just want to let you know that uh at the previous council meeting, the rezoning presented by Julie Vermillion for Cohen Van Lu.
25:39That's that 338 acres, northwest of Bataglia and Frontier.
25:45That did rezone and it did pass from R1 I2 to R3.
25:49It passed unanimously.
25:51And the CUP 2625-010.
25:56That was for the ATT Cell Tower.
26:00So we're happy to get more better cell phone, more better.
26:04Cell phone down here for our people.
26:09Oh, and I want to thank everybody for their time they spent here today.
26:14I know this was like a a little bonus edition you got to come here, but I want to thank everybody for really putting out and showing up for that.
26:22I I found it very interesting.
26:26Gunn had a good meal out of it too.
26:35Simon, do you have anything to add?
26:40At this time we do not have anything scheduled for April.
26:44We may, if maybe I'll touch base with the commission in poll them if they rather just meet one-on-one with me on the general plan or meet as a group.
26:53I'll do a poll and just sit down with you.
26:56And I can also print out paper copies for you.
27:00I wanted to give you the option before I actually printed them because that is a lot of paper.
27:05But uh and I echo the mayor's comments about coming in early and doing this exercise.
27:10This is actually having done this a lot.
27:13This is probably one of the most productive ways to get people to participate in your guys' input.
27:18And it's super valuable.
27:21So uh it's gonna be interesting.
27:23How we've been handling these consultant that working with the consultant is like oh okay, tell me what you think.
27:29And I got my opinions.
27:30You tell me what you think, and da-da-da-da-da.
27:32Yeah, that's and then they'll we're gonna do the same thing.
27:36I'm gonna go back and review all your comments.
27:37They're gonna review the comments, we're gonna think about it, and then we kind of come together and go, okay, is are we on the same page?
27:44You know, it's it's this really fun exercise.
27:46And then next time we'll come back and here's what we took from your comments in the community, and uh these are the this is a a big fun period because now next time it's gonna be 10 years before we do this again.
28:01So this is why it's so important that you participate and uh I really do value that you guys done this and ladies, thank you.
28:10Okay, thank you very much.
28:12Like I said, I I find it very interesting, and I know the folks at my table did too.
28:18Table number one, the cool guys table.
28:23Okay, uh anyone else.
28:27Okay, it doesn't look like it.
28:29So I think we're gonna move on to it and we're nine, my favorite, and then we'll everyone else's favorite.
28:35Uh motion to adjourn.
28:36Do I have a motion to adjourn?
28:38I'll make a motion to adjourn.
28:40Do it on the second.
28:44I don't think we need a roll call on this.
28:46All in favor of adjourn signified by saying aye.
28:54Thank you very much.
28:55This meeting is here by adjourned.