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El Paso City Council Meeting: February 3, 2026 - Proclamations, ICE Opposition, and Infrastructure Approvals

City CouncilTuesday, February 3, 2026
BodyEl Paso, Texas
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, February 3, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:57

Good morning.

0:58

Good morning, sir.

0:59

Good morning, Mayor, Council members, city staff, and everyone here.

1:03

Thank you for having us at El Paso City Hall.

1:05

My name is Roland Rios.

1:07

I'm president co-founder of Combat Fighting Championship CFC.

1:10

And I'm also proud of veteran of the United States Air Force.

1:13

So when I talk about community impact, I'm coming from a service mindset.

1:17

Show up prepared, lead responsibly, and create something that improves lives.

1:21

Today it's meaningful because of the proclamation.

1:23

And we don't take this lightly.

1:41

Since then, we've been committed to earning that recognition through results.

1:45

We produced five major events, and our sixth is coming April 25th.

1:49

We started with 1400 attendees and grew it to 3100 attendees.

1:54

That's momentum and community trust.

1:56

Each event takes a hundred and twenty to a hundred and fifty people working behind the scenes to keep it safe and professional.

2:02

We invest local locally to deliver a high standard event.

2:06

About a hundred and twenty thousand spent uh per event into the operational ecosystem that makes this happen.

2:12

And we bring visitors to El Paso.

2:14

About 300 hotel room nights per event, supporting hospitality and small and small and small business.

2:21

But most importantly, where we are uh where we're headed next, we launch our CFC Foundation.

2:28

It's new, but our purpose is clear.

2:30

Create an opportunities for youth through structure mentorship and access.

2:34

Our targets are to serve two thousand underprivileged kids, provide five hundred mentorship hours, and fund two hundred scholarships.

2:41

Now I want you to hear from my co-founder, Jose Carlos Pacheco, because he brings the athletes' perspective and the passion behind what we're building.

2:49

Carlos.

2:54

Good morning.

2:55

My name is Jose Carlos Pacheco, co-founder of Combat Fighting Championship CFC.

3:00

Mayor and Council members, thank you for your time and for letting me speak today.

3:04

This project began with nothing more than a simple what if conversation.

3:08

Standing here now representing the MMA community, it truly feels surreal.

3:12

Our worlds don't often intersect, so I want to sincerely thank you for seeing Beyond the Cage, Beyond the Fighting, and recognizing the purpose behind what we're building.

3:20

Not just for our athletes, but for the city of El Paso.

3:24

CFC was created to showcase the incredible talent that exists right here at home.

3:28

El Paso has always been a fight town.

3:30

And that's proven by athletes like WBA world champion Stephanie Hahn and former Fury FC champion Andrea Maro.

3:36

Fighting is in our is part of our culture.

3:39

It's in our blood.

3:40

We are fighters, both inside and outside of the cage.

3:43

As a professional fighter myself, I can tell you that Al Pasoans take immense pride in representing our city.

3:49

When we travel and compete across the country, we carry El Paso with us every time we step into the cage.

4:06

We are nine out of town promotion.

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We are Al Paso born, El Paso bred, El Paso Proud, and El Paso Strong.

4:13

It may not happen today, it may not happen tomorrow.

4:16

But I guarantee that CFC will be the platform that helps launch an El Paso athlete to the UFC and represents our city on the biggest stage in the world.

4:23

Thank you again for your time.

4:24

And now I pass it on to Marco.

4:33

Good morning.

4:33

Uh my name is Marco Vallejo.

4:35

I lead partner relations for CFC, and I'm also the executive director of the CUC Foundation, where I lead our mentorship and scholarship efforts.

4:43

Roland shared the vision and the impact.

4:48

Because none of this happens without a local network that believes in El Paso.

4:52

We're grateful for partners who don't just sponsor an event, they invest in the community around it.

5:00

Partners like First Layer Federal Credit Union, Jordan Foster Construction, Ride Drive, Sushito, and many more who consistently show up for El Paso.

5:05

We also want to recognize and thank the local United States Air Force Recruiting Office for sponsoring the event.

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Because that support aligns with what C of C represents.

5:14

Discipline, structure, service, and opportunity.

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The foundation, these relationships matter because they translate directly into outcomes.

5:22

Mentorship hours, scholarships, and access for kids who otherwise wouldn't get the chance.

5:27

So today's proclamation is meaningful, not just for CFC, but for partners, families, and the youth who are part of this movement.

5:34

Thank you.

5:40

Thank you, Marco.

5:40

Thank you, Carlos.

5:41

Mayor, Council members, thank you for this proclamation and for recognizing CFC and the direction we're taking it.

5:47

We accept it through gratitude and responsibility.

5:49

We want you to know you can expect the same standard going forward.

5:53

Safe professional events that reflect well on El Paso and a foundation effort that's focused on mentorship access and opportunity for the youth.

6:00

Thank you for your time, your leadership, and for believing in the people building something positive for our city.

6:05

Wow.

6:10

And Roland, I want to thank you and your team here for all that you're doing with our youth, especially in the area of mixed martial arts and anti-bullying initiatives that you guys are taking on.

6:21

And I know you had some sold-out shows, which is incredible.

6:24

And uh this this uh sporting event is only growing in popularity, and we want to continue to help you guys in any way we can to grow out uh sell out more shows.

6:34

Also, I want to uh thank you for giving our local fighters a platform to showcase their their talent.

6:40

You guys have really uh put some of them on the on the national stage.

6:44

So again, thank you to CFC for all that you're doing, and let's continue to do some more economic development and sell out some more rooms.

6:51

But congratulations on all that you're doing for this community.

6:54

Congratulations.

8:48

And the next proclamation is El Paso Children's Hospital Day.

8:53

Representative Acevedo.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Have the honor of reading this.

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The children's hospital is so important to our community, and I will read the proclamation and then hand it over to the amazing children's hospital after I read this proclamation City of El Paso, Texas.

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Whereas each year, thousands of children in West Texas, Southern New Mexico region require specialty pediatric medical care.

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And whereas El Paso Children's Hospital was established by the community to be the first ever and only separately licensed hospital dedicated to pediatric care.

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And whereas the hospital is continually recruited pediatric specialists and now has over 20 specialties led by world-renowned physicians and medical experts, making it easier for families to stay in El Paso for specialized pediatric treatment instead of traveling out of town.

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And whereas February 14th, 2026 marks 14 years since the hospital's grand opening.

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Now therefore be a proclaimed by the mayor and council of the city of El Paso that February 14th, 2026 shall be known as El Paso Children's Hospital Day.

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Signed the Honorable Mayor Renard Johnson.

10:04

Good morning.

10:05

Good morning, everybody.

10:14

Most importantly, we want to thank Representative Acevedo for continually hosting our proclamations and Mayor Johnson and all of City Council for welcoming us.

10:21

We're gonna step back today and we're gonna let some of our leadership team share the great things that are happening at El Paso Children's Hospital.

10:28

So first up, we'd like to welcome our associate administrator, Naomi Bastardo.

10:32

Good morning, everyone.

10:34

Good morning.

10:34

Thank you for having us.

10:36

El Paso Children's Hospital has provided the highest level of pediatric care in the El Paso community for officially 14 years now.

10:45

This story began when the community calls for a dedicated children's specialty hospital nearly 30 years ago.

10:51

That dream came to fruition on February 14th, 2012, with our hospital designed exclusively for pediatric health care and an additional floor, which has recently opened up.

11:04

Most recently, we were also voted the best hospital in the the in the El Paso area for El Paso Times for the second year straight.

11:12

Al Paso Children's Hospital is full of dedicated doctors and nurses committed to delivering the highest level of care possible and instituting an environment where our kids, our family members, and our hospital staff feel safe.

11:27

We've been able to recruit top quality physicians and bring on new specialties each year.

11:32

We recruited the region's only pediatric geneticist, Dr.

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Maria Ethel Aguirre, who plays an important role in understanding the cause of conditions deep in a child's DNA.

11:44

As we build the top quality pediatric orthopedic program in the region, we have create recruited two additional physicians this year to assist in growing a much-needed service for our region.

11:56

Just recently, we announced a game-changing partnership with Toyota to help treat traumatic brain injuries, which start in the emergency department.

12:06

Our pediatric emergency department is staffed with pediatric pediatric tree uh team that specializes in only pediatrics, which is extremely crucial for our community.

12:18

We strive in building relationships with our local EMS partners to ensure that every child receives the specialized pediatric care right from the beginning.

12:29

Right here, I'm going to introduce Christine Tejeda, our director of our pediatric intensive care unit to talk a little bit about our inpatient care.

12:35

Good morning.

12:36

Hi, good morning.

12:38

My name is Christine Tejeda, and I am the director of our pediatric intensive care unit.

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I am born and raised in El Paso, Texas.

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So I'm very proud to be here.

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So we are the one in six pediatric intensive care units in the state of Texas to receive this award, and we are the only one in the region.

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We're so proud of our staff, our board certified intensivist and nursing team that work tirelessly so that kids do not have to leave El Paso for the highest level of critical care services.

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And this is when pediatric patients need it the most.

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So we're very excited and happy to be able to offer these services when our patients in our region need them most.

13:34

So uh thank you both so much.

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We have a many of our leadership team, many of our chiefs here as well.

13:40

Too many to keep within the 27-second time limit.

13:43

Um but we're very grateful for you all as we've had to educate people.

13:47

It's our golden birthday.

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We're turning 14 on February 14th.

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It's a big year.

13:52

Yes, that means next year is the quintineta for El Paso Children's Hospital.

13:57

So you will all be getting an invite, no doubt.

14:00

It's gonna be a fantastic day.

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We're grateful to the Chamber of Commerce.

14:04

The star will be lit on our in our honor both next Friday and Saturday.

14:08

We'll be completing the celebration of the week at the UTEP basketball game with our giant teddy bear toss for all the kids.

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Uh so we have a lot of great things.

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We'll be sure to share with you all the events going on to invite you if you'd like to attend.

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So thank you all so much.

14:25

Now let's take at least another minute so everyone can introduce themselves because they showed up this morning.

14:31

Let's run through.

14:32

All right, we'll go left to there we go.

14:33

Hi, Javier Science.

14:34

I'm the assistant chief legal officer for the hospital.

14:37

Myra Estrada, Director of Perioperative Services.

14:40

Jeannie Shaw, Associate Administrator, Perioptive Services.

14:44

Nicole Boick, Child Life Coordinator.

14:48

Good morning.

14:48

Amy Hernandez, Administrative Director of Outpatient Services.

14:53

David DeMarc Antonio, Vice President of Outpatient Services.

14:57

Janly Saparo, Administrative Director of Nursing and Special Projects.

15:03

Daniel Lopez, I'm the quality management director.

15:07

Hello, Liliana Rivas, Director of Cardiac Services.

15:12

Good morning, Melissa Rodriguez, Vice President of Strategic Initiatives.

15:18

Good morning, José Luis Salas, Director of Infection Control and Employee Health.

15:24

Brenda Gonzalez, Director of Laboratory Services.

15:29

Elizabeth Carroll Gonzalez, Director of Medical Staff Services.

15:35

Liz Flores, Director of Patient Accounting.

15:39

Good morning, Stephanie Hubbard, Director of Health Information Management.

15:44

Good morning, Maria Diaz, Administrator Director of Social Work and Case Management CDA.

15:51

Good morning, Lupe Saliz, Contra Compliance Manager.

15:56

Hello, I'm Laurel Houston.

15:58

I'm the Chief Legal Officer.

16:01

Good morning.

16:02

I'm Terry Jordan, uh Chief Administrative Officer.

16:05

Thank you.

16:07

Is that the team, huh?

16:08

We do.

16:08

Cindy is unfortunately able to be here today, but uh we're all here in power numbers to prove the great things that we're doing for these kids in the community.

16:15

So thank you all.

16:16

Yeah, and thank you guys again for all the compassionate care that you provide our kids so they can stay in this community.

16:21

And one quick question how many beds is it?

16:24

Hundred and forty eight, yes, sir.

16:26

Great.

16:26

Okay, 148 beds, and you guys have received a number of awards, Pathway to Excellence, Beacon.

16:32

Is there more awards we're missing?

16:33

We have more wards on the way, so we'll be excited to share in the coming week.

16:37

Very good.

16:37

But thank you guys so much for all that you do for the kids in our community.

16:40

Congratulations.

16:41

Thank you.

19:29

Yes, sir.

19:30

The next proclamation is twenty twenty six, El Paso Black History, Hall of Fame Inductees.

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Representative Canalis.

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May let it finish clearing out here for a second.

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All right, proclamation, City of El Paso, Texas.

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Whereas the City of El Paso recognizes the enduring necessity of commemorating the achievements and contributions of African Americans.

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A principle given special focus by the 2026 National Black History Month theme, a century of black history commemorations.

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And whereas this centennial theme invites us to reflect on the formal establishment of Black History Crations, recognizing that honoring those who have paved the paths of progress is a vital act of self-affirmation, cultural preservation, and empowerment for future generations.

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And whereas the 2026 El Paso Black Hall of Fame inductees are themselves a living embodiment of this commemorative legacy, representing diverse fields of service, leadership, and community advancement that have profoundly shaped our region.

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And whereas we proudly honor this distinguished class of inductees for their historic historic contributions and achievements.

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And whereas we also give great honor to those who are who are being inducted posthumously into the Black Hall of Fame.

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Cleola Lee Oliver Barry, Thaddeus John Bowden, James Jim Crouch, George B.

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Cumber, Esteine Davis, Jack Darrell Fields, Jeff Row Hills Sr., Harold E.

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Howell, Bruce Alvin Mathis, Flamenny Laurel Purchase, and Carl Robinson.

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And whereas the collective accomplishments of these individuals and the work of the McCall Neighborhood Center reflect the strength, resilience, and intellectual power of the black community, ensuring that their impactful narratives are woven into the public culture and history of El Paso.

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Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the Mayor and Council of the City of El Paso that February 3rd shall be known as El Paso Black Hall of Fame Day, signed by our Honorable Mayor and previous inductee, Mayor Renard Johnson.

22:54

Good morning.

22:57

Good morning.

22:58

Thank you all.

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Thank you, Mayor and City Council for this uh honor for this proclamation.

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I'm not going to take too long because I do want to make sure some of our inductees have a few words, but this was this began um when I first arrived here due to the military in 96, but we never got a chance to do it until now because military life happens.

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So we're just honored to be able to uh acknowledge those in the community who have made a difference.

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And also this was also started because of some things that my son experienced and that my daughter experienced, and even some things that my grandson, who is now 15 years old, um who lives in Las Cruces, um, but comes to El Paso a lot experiences.

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So we want the youth to know that there are people that they can look up to in the community.

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So if they can do it, so so can they.

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You know what I mean?

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So that's what that's what we're here for.

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So I'm going to step to the side and ask um some of our inductees to give about 30 seconds.

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I know we're on a time limit to introduce themselves.

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Um also before we I'll have Miss Ums Anna Howell.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, Mayor and Commissioners.

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I it is truly an honor to be inducted myself and and for my husband who is not with us, but his soul and and love is always with me.

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So I just want to thank you for giving us the honor of receiving the proclamation today.

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I live what I was taught.

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It was says give of yourself, not just money, but of yourself.

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So I try to do that in everything that I do.

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Good morning.

24:46

Good morning.

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First of all, giving honor to God.

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Hey, just wanted to say we uh truly honored to be up here.

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I am truly honored uh not only because for the black community, but the our paso community.

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I did 32 years in the military.

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And this is the kind of stuff that made me want to continue service, being great in our community to be able to do things, not just for our just community, but to be able to mix in this community to let people know that we are important too, and that we love El Paso.

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Just love us back.

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We love y'all and God bless you.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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My name is Karen Cooper Linden.

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I grew up here in El Paso since uh I was four.

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And I came back to take care of my parents after they passed away.

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I I continue to stay, and I work in this community because that's how I was taught.

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We would go with my father to help the homeless, and he always preached to us that you are your brother's keeper.

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So I continue to work because I love this community, and I'm teaching that to my grand.

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And Karen.

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How long have you known me?

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Since you were a baby.

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I've been in El Paso back and forth since 1981, where my husband first started his military career.

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We have served and raised our children, 46 years old, and a 33-year-old here that was born in El Paso, Texas.

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What Pastor Thaddeus has stood for was life is about connecting the dots and always serving.

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Am I my brother's keeper?

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What an honor for him to be honored.

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He is gone with the Lord, but to see the people that is gone with him, Carl Robinson.

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You think about all the giants that he even stands with today, Anna Howe, my brother Reggie Daniel.

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I want to thank El Paso for this proclamation.

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It means so much to all of us.

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Amen.

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And um, before we have our um keynote speaker for this weekend and our lifetime achievement awardee, um, I was gonna have Miss I'm used to calling her Barbara, but minister Beverly.

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She was born and raised here.

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You know, good morning.

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Good morning, Mayor and Commissioners.

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God bless each and every one of you.

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I am Elder Beverly Mathis, member of uh Faith Tabernacle Full Gospel, where my pastor is uh Bishop Dr.

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A.

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W.

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Flower Senior and our elect lady.

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I am proud to be here at this moment because this is what's been uh justified for us to continue to carry on, and I'm very, very grateful for Miss Monica Tucker for having the vision to carry this out.

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I am a proud El Pasoan, born and raised, born at Newark Maternity Hospital.

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I am proud to say that I graduated from El Paso High School.

28:05

Yeah, and I'm a part of the El Paso Association that's there, and I'm very proud to be an El Paso 1969 alumni, also a Lieutenant Colonel of the J R O T C at El Paso High School.

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Uh I was the only black female in my class of 1969, and they treated me with the greatest respect, and I will always acknowledge them as being the best lady on the hill.

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She is on the hill and she shines and she brights, and I'm also just now understanding about how some things we go through in life that we have to deal with.

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I am now a also proud uh breast cancer survivor.

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I want to acknowledge that my daughter is Miss Monica's right hand, along with Miss Howell and all the others that are standing here, but we want you to know that we will be doing more.

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We have the Black Tour coming up this weekend, and we just want you to understand and know that everything that we are doing is for everybody, not just for the black community.

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God bless each and everyone.

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Yes.

29:32

Oh my goodness.

29:33

Good morning.

29:37

Good morning, Chief.

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Good morning.

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Thank you all for coming.

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We are really appreciate this proclamation.

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Again, like it's been said before.

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This is not just about the black community.

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Even though we're doing amazing things here, we have our mayor, our city manager, our fire chief, and even me.

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We're all doing great things across the world here in El Paso, and we want to keep the energy going.

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We've got a great event coming up Saturday, and it's a sold-out event.

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Thank you, Monica.

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So we're going to continue to do things in El Paso.

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And me personally, I've been serving this community now for almost 31 years, and I'm going to continue to do so for as long as I can.

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So thank you very much.

30:18

Good morning, Chief.

30:20

Good morning, Mayor, Council.

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Um, I just want to first thank Monica and and uh you know the Black Hall of Fame.

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And um I'm very humbled and honored to be standing here amongst these other inductees and to be mentioned alongside of them.

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Um I didn't get here alone.

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You know, the love and support of my family, you all, uh, mayor and council, city leadership, Miss Dion Mack, uh Deputy Chief, uh Deputy City Manager Mario Di Augustino, and you know, my staff of uh along the wall back there.

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Uh they all contribute to the success of not only my my own success, but the success of my organization in the El Paso Fire Department, and I'm truly honored to represent the El Paso Fire Department and the City of El Paso.

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So thank you.

31:16

Monica.

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No, I just want to also thank um Representative Canales who champions us all the time.

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Well, on behalf of the entire city council, our heartfelt congratulations to all the twenty sixteen Black History uh Hall of Fame inductees, and you and others have helped pave the way for so many, and most of you, if not all of you, have done it quietly with profound passion and commitment to the black community.

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The countless hours that you have given to this community does not go unnoticed.

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So today we celebrate you and want to say congratulations.

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I just want to reiterate right reiterate right quick that this is the one hundredth year celebration of black history.

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Wow, one hundred years.

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Congratulations.

32:41

I got you.

35:18

The next proclamation is Text Dot National Engineers Week.

35:24

Representative.

35:28

So I think it's the one before, no?

35:31

Miss Pryn.

35:34

I think you skipped community partners.

35:36

You're correct.

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The next proclamation is community partners in action.

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Okay.

35:41

Thank you.

35:42

Thank you.

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I'm reading this on behalf of Representative Cynthia Boyer Trejos.

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She couldn't be with us today.

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Proclamation City of El Paso, Texas.

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Whereas Mrs.

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Jane Hopkins, Assistant Store Manager, and Ms.

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Rachel Maines, Store Manager at Sam's Club store number sixty-two forty-six in Northeast El Paso have demonstrated exceptional commitment to community service, civic engagement, and support for families and veterans across our region.

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And whereas through their leadership at SAMS Club store number sixty-two forty-six, the store has become a trusted community partner, supported meaningful initiatives that bring residents together, honor veterans, and strengthen neighborhood connections.

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And whereas Mrs.

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Hopkins and Miss Mains have actively supported the Persian Gulf Memorial and the Old Glory Memorial located in Northeast El Paso, contributing to events and collaborations that honor service, promote unity, and create welcoming spaces for veterans, families, and community members.

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And whereas their collaborative efforts have included family focused community events, partnerships with local vendors, and initiatives that encourage participation, creativity, and togetherness, resulting in memorable experiences embraced by residents.

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And whereas both leaders exemplify professionalism, warmth, and a genuine commitment to service, setting a high standard for community involvement and reflecting a shared belief in giving back to Al Paso.

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Now, therefore, be a proclaimed by the mayor and council of the City of El Paso, recognizing and honoring Mrs.

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Jane Hopkins, Assistant Store Manager, and Ms.

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Rachel Maines, store manager of Sam's Club store number sixty-two forty-six as community partners in action and commends them for their outstanding leadership service and lasting contributions to Northeast El Paso.

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Signed the Honorable Mayor Red Nard Johnson.

37:37

Good morning.

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Thank you.

38:32

Good morning, members of the Steam.

38:39

Still reside in District 4, and I would just want to congratulate Sams Club 6246 for all the community work that they do.

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They give uh very much always to the community.

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I'm the president of the Kazner Heights Neighborhood Association, and I know we can count on them for their support at any time.

38:56

One of the things I would like to really say is that uh having been here for four years, I would speak to different city employees.

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One of the things that they always recurring theme was that they would go shop at Sam's.

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Sam's Club 6246 of the Northeast.

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And I would ask them why.

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I mean, these people lived in the various parts of towns, the West Side, East Side, Central, whatever.

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They say, well, number one, they have a very uh assortment of products and services.

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The staff there are always friendly, and the stores very clean, and the parking lot is great.

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So just remember if you need to go shopping, Sam's Club 6246 and District 4.

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Thank you very much for this opportunity.

39:36

Good morning.

39:37

Good morning.

39:38

Good morning, Mayor, and distinguished members of City Council.

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I stand before you to recognize sincerely to thank Sam's Club 6246 for their outstanding commitment to our Northeast community.

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Their generosity and willingness to support events at Old Glory Memorial from providing pastries, water, hot dogs, and hamburgers, and other supplies have made a meaningful difference year after year.

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She has company in town, you know how that goes.

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For their leadership, kindness, and dedication to giving back.

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Their partnership is more than a donation.

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It is a true investment to our community.

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Without their continued support, many of our events simply would not be possible.

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We're deeply grateful for their long-standing collaboration and unwaving commitment.

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Thank you.

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All City Council, Debo Wakefield here.

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Um, I would just like to say for the SAMS Club in the Northeast, without their support, a lot of things would not get accomplished.

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When you show up, you do want your coffee, you do want your donuts, you do want your water when it's hot outside.

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Um, the other thing is the camaraderie.

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The camaraderies, they just don't stay inside the store.

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They come out and mix and mingle with us.

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They come and help serve, they come and greet the different family members, and they're very encouraging with their smiles and their hospitality.

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So without further I guess recognition, I would like to say thank you again to Rachel Angelo.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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My name is Denise Carruthers, and just very quickly, um, aside from the big thanks that we owe Sam's and Jane, I just want to say thank you to y'all for recognizing all of the people here today, because in a world where we only hear negative, it's nice to hear positive things.

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Thank you.

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You're very welcome.

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Well, thank you guys.

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I I know that Sam's Club is very proud of both Rachel and and Jane for all that you do and the way that the exceptional way that you guys represent Sam's company.

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And I also know you guys have touched on it that Sam's Company nationwide has their associates and volunteers at events giving away resources and time.

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So this is a a testament of Sam's Club across the nation.

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So again, thank you guys for all that you do for our community, and thank you for all that you do for our veterans and everyone else.

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So congratulations.

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Thank you.

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Representative Rocha.

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Congratulations on the proclamation.

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I just want to say, as an Eastsider, I live off of Le Chorino, and I travel to the SAMS in the Northeast.

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Quite often because it is uh it is just quite exceptional when you compare it.

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So congratulations again.

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Oh, she's gonna do it from the front.

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And the final proclamation is Tex Dot National Engineers Week.

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Representing you.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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The honor is coming up forward.

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Well, thank you, Mayor for allowing me to read this proclamation today.

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Absolutely.

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So proclamation for the city of El Paso, Texas, whereas February 22nd through the 28th, 2026 is recognized as a National Engineers Week to honor the nation's engineers in all fields who use their knowledge and skills in an innovative ways to fulfill our society's needs and ensure a diverse and well-educated future engineering workforce by increasing understanding of an interest in engineering and technology careers.

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And whereas El Paso Electric is powered by more than 1,0100 employees, including more than 150 engineers across environmental, electrical, mechanical, and civil disciplines, whose expertise supports the safe and reliable delivery of electricity to more than 460,000 customers across the service territory spanning from Van Horn to Anthony, Texas, and into Southwestern New Mexico to Hatch.

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And whereas 30 professional engineers, 16 engineering assistants, and 20 engineered interns across Texdot El Paso district are integrated in each aspect of the agency's work from design, planning, traffic, maintenance, and construction.

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They're part of more than 1,000 across Textot statewide, working tirelessly every day to provide a safe and reliable transportation system that enables the movement of people and some goods.

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Whereas UTEPS College of Engineering has had 5,400 students enrolled in the fall of 2025, and it's 11 bachelor's degrees, 17 master degrees, and six doctor degrees that produce 886 great engineers last year, many that are Hispanic and first generation, and many that graduate and place into four hundred fortune 500 companies across the globe.

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There's also a larger regional national impact at the College of Engineering is a significant contribution to research and expenditures for the university, therefore assisting in sustaining the university's R1 status according to the Carnegie classification system.

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And whereas engineers serve as role models and sources of inspiration to our students and community to realize the power of their knowledge.

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They will work for the promoted diverse and well-educated future engineering workforce and will be recognized with the lighting of the city landmarks and all green to cut the color of all engineers.

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Now therefore be it proclaimed by the mayor and the council of the city of El Paso that February 22nd through the 28th, 2026 shall be known as National Engineers Week for Engineers at El Paso Electric, Text.

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This year the Text Dot El Paso District will be hosting the third annual West Texas Young Engineers Group.

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And they've been tasked with making it the best best one ever.

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Uh and they'll be choked showcasing many of the engineering projects going on, not only at TechSot, but uh around the region.

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That's why today I'm joined by some of my young engineers embedded in various sections throughout the district.

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Ninety-five percent of them are UTEP graduates.

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Ninety-five percent of them are here are here from the region.

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They're local students.

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They were taught in the local education system, came up through the ranks, went to UTEP, got their engineering degree.

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I don't I don't think we realize how lucky we are to have a top-notch engineering program.

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I can tell you my peers across the state struggle to fill engineering positions, and that's not the case here locally.

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Again, I want to thank you on behalf of all engineers and I appreciate your support.

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Thank you for the recognition.

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Good morning.

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Uh thank you for the proclamation.

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We're really honored by it.

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Um I'm Ken Meisner, I'm the dean of the College of Engineering here at UTEP, and uh we're proud to partner with uh with TechSdot and El Paso Electric and really helping drive workforce development, economic development in the area.

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Um the College of Engineering and UTEP have grown greatly over the last uh few years, and most of our students are from Region 19, showing our commitment to the community.

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Um not only trying to ignite that flame of curiosity in the students and the young people, but also again, trying to get them interested in engineering and community service.

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And uh we're very proud to to do that service uh to the region.

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So uh thank you again for the proclamation.

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Pixup and vamos Maneros.

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Now, Tomas, you have a lot of people with you there.

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They want to come up there we go.

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Uh thank you everyone.

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Thank you for recognizing us.

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Uh my name is Victor Tokinto from El Paso Electric.

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Um, you guys mentioned uh in the proclamation we we hire uh we have over 150 engineers through all uh uh uh through all uh fuels uh environmental, civil, uh mechanical, electrical.

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Um the El Paso area, most of us did go to UTEP.

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So we we do want to uh give the thanks and uh thank you thank you to everyone.

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I myself actually started my career in Text Dot as well.

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Um thank you for the recognition and thank you for uh for really us putting us uh uh on the spotlight.

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We really want to be able to have uh all these students that go through UTEP be able to start the career and develop the career here locally.

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Tomas, we got some more time.

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They want to introduce themselves?

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Um I'm an engineering assistant in central design of Textot.

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Good morning, my name is Leonardo Calce.

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I'm one engineering assistant for the advanced planning development section at Texat.

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Good morning, my name is Font, and I'm an engineering assistant with uh the El Paso District Maintenance.

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Um the engineering assistant at the El Paso District now.

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Good morning, I'm Jezebel Ray, um transportation engineer at the West area office.

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Good morning, I'm good in Nagasca, and I'm a distribution engineer for El Paso Electric.

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Good morning.

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My name is Ugo Luran.

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I uh work for El Paso Electric.

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I'm a distribution design engineer.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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My name is Vivena Sambrano, I'm the business lead for the Sun City Summit Rocket Team.

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Oh, wow, good morning.

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And Gabby Gandhara, Assistant Dean for Engineering Student Success in the College of Engineering.

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Very good.

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Well and Tomas, what I believe I learned about this week is uh it's aligned with uh George Washington's birthday and honoring his background as a surveyor and an engineer.

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And uh we are honored today to highlight our local engineers who are problem solvers, builders, and civic leaders, and stellar members of this community.

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So congratulations to each and every one of you guys and Go miners.

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Okay, Miss Prime.

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Yes, sir.

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Good morning.

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This is a meeting of the El Paso City Council for Tuesday, February 3rd, 2026.

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Mayor Johnson is present and presiding in Council Chambers, along with Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, Representative Acevedo, Representative Malonado Rocha, Representative Nino, Representative Limon, and Representative Canales.

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It is ten oh seven A.M.

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Will everyone please silence your electronic devices so and not to disturb the meeting and rise for the invocation.

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Delivered by El Paso Police Chaplain Robert Hempel Jr.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, Honorable Mayor Johnson and uh Mayor Proton Chavez and also the honorable members of the El Paso City Council and Department of Chair.

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Let us bow heads at this time for the invocation.

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Most holy God, you say that it's honorable to have a good name.

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A man is honorable in this city council here, and all this leaders have a great name because El Paso has a great name as being one of the best cities in the country.

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Guide them Master as they make decisions that are in the best interest of the citizens of this community.

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We ask Master Dick discuss pros and cons, Master, and come up with a solution that's best for all this concern.

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This we ask in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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Okay, Miss Bryant.

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Once you obtain the floor from the mayor, you will have up to ten minutes for debate and may speak twice per debatable motion.

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Please speak into the microphone and refrain from side conversations of the dais while the meeting is in session.

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For those of you joining us virtually, please make sure to reduce to mute your microphones to reduce any background noise.

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Thank you for showing up.

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And thank you for showing who we are and how we show up for one another.

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We're glad to have you here today.

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Ms.

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Prime.

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Yes, Mayor.

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At this time, I'll call the persons that signed up to speak at 10 o'clock, either on consent or regular agenda items.

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And the first person is Stephanie Block.

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Ms.

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Block signed up to speak on item 31.

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And item 31 is discussion in action on a resolution to appoint a member to the El Paso Water Utilities Public Service Board of Trustees.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, Mayor and distinguished.

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I have to stand on my toes a little bit.

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Good morning, Mayor and distinguished members of City Council.

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It was a pleasure to meet with each of you last week and share information about myself and thank you for the taking the time to speak with myself and the other candidates about this important position.

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I want to make it clear that today I'm representing myself as a citizen and a dedicated public servant, and I'm not here as a representative of El Paso Water since I am up for reappointment.

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I just wanted to say, as I mentioned to each of you in the past, that El Paso Water is a really complex and highly regulated organization for good reasons, and it takes time to gain the requisite technical knowledge and understanding to be very effective.

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And I feel that I will hit the ground running if selected for a second term.

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So I just wanted to uh reiterate that and also say, of course, my goal is whatever is best for El Paso and the ratepayers.

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Um if I'm that person, it would be my honor to continue serving if you feel that somebody else is better suited to that position.

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I encourage you to vote your conscience.

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This is a really important role, and um I would be very happy to continue in it, and thank you very much for your consideration.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'll now call the members of the public that signed up to speak at 10 o'clock on item 34.

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And this is the uh item to develop a plan of action to prevent the installation of any ICE detention facilities.

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You'll have up to three minutes to speak.

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You can monitor your time on the timers that are going to be displayed on the monitors in council chambers.

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You don't need to, if you don't need the all the three minutes, that's fine, but you will have up to three minutes.

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And I'll begin with students from Eastwood High School, Sofia Gutierrez, followed by Elisa Aguirre, Zayle Buck, Lafani Davis.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, Mayor Renard Johnson, City Manager Dion Mack, and El Paso City Council members.

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My name is Alisa Aguirre, and alongside me, I have Zaley Buck, Lalani Davis, and Sofia Gutierrez.

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We are the voices behind Troopers for Justice at Eastwood High School, and as well as the as well as the leaders of the first El Paso ICE walkout here in El Paso.

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We are beyond grateful to be here representing the youth of El Paso, though and through all student-led walkouts and peaceful protests, send a clear message of disagreement with further implementation of ICE within our city.

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We took it upon ourselves to create a petition so all voices of our community are heard.

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The petition is as summarized.

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We, the undersigned residents of El Paso, urge the El Paso City Council to direct the city manager and city attorney to prevent the installation or expansion of any immigrate immigration customs enforcement detention facilities within El Paso city limits.

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This petition is signed and submitted to demonstrate clear community opposition to any expansion of ICE detention centers in El Paso.

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The piece of legislation being spoken upon today was proposed by Lily Limon and Chris Ganales.

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However, not only do city officials disagree with further expansion, we the people do.

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Our citizens have been clear in their opinion with approximately six high schools of our city participating in student-led walkouts against ICE, with more set to happen in the near future, including citywide organizations.

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This petition in only 48 hours received support citywide, gaining over 1,200 signatures as of this morning.

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Not aliens, human beings.

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I'll now hand it over to Sophia.

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Good morning.

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Thank you, Zay.

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Good morning, Mayor, City Manager, and City Council members.

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My name is Sophia Gutierrez, a junior and organizer from Eastwood High School's Troopers for Justice movement.

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And I am here to ask the City Council to support item number 34 unanimously to develop a plan of action in the prevention of building another ICE detention center.

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We believe these detention centers are immoral in unchecked and goes against everything our beautiful city stands for.

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El Paso was built off the backs of immigrants, which inherently makes it rich in culture, community, and pride.

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It deserves to be known for that, not deemed the detention center capital of the U.S.

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We want due process for all, but more importantly, no person should be abused, neglected, or tortured because of their background.

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El Paso is a place that has welcomed me.

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Do not turn this land into a place that will not welcome others, said Mr.

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Garcia, whose name will remain anonymous for their safety upon signing our petition, and we are here to reinforce that statement.

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El Paso is a border city, and as young, un as young informed and passionate citizens, we urge the city council to fully consider the promises of this action plan for us and for every immigrant who has come into this country in promises of a better life, not fearing if their child will be deported or placed in a detention center.

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What other city is more qualified to stand up for their people?

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We must realize and address that our people are not being targeted by criminal records, but racially profiled, regardless of their citizenship status, including children.

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In cases of a U.S.

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citizen being obtained, they are denied due process and given an ultimatum of waiting to be transferred or signing an I-407 form stating that by making a phone call they abandon all of their residency rights.

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Not only is this highly illegal, but it also further proves the targets are not the criminals, but the very people that do the jobs Americans don't want to take, and the people in our city that look out for their neighbors.

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If our city can't come together to create an action plan against these immoral detention centers centers, I don't know any other city that can, as you would probably agree with me.

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And with that, I'll pass it over to Leilani.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Um stated before, and I'm one of the voices behind Troopers for Justice at Eastwood High School.

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Today I stand before you, not as an expert and not as a politician, but as a teenager and a human being who cares about what's happening in our communities.

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ICE was created in the name of safety, but when that safety turns into fear, and when people are targeted for their for the color of their skin or for the language they speak, that stops being protection.

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Here in El Paso, three people have lost their lives.

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Victor Manuel Diaz, Francisco Gaspar Andres, Gerardo Lunas Campos, were all killed during immigration enforcement.

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Our purpose here today is to speak up for them as well as many others that are unable to.

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Human rights aren't something you earn.

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They're something you're born with, and human rights cannot be selective.

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Empathy should never be determined on where you're from.

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If item 34 is failed to pass, it will only harm El Paso immigrants, and it will only show the country that even the city built on immigrants' backs, don't we not have theirs.

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I will now pass over to Zaley.

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Thank you.

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Hi, good morning.

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Good morning.

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Um, my name is Zaley Buck, and I'm here representing Troopers for Justice from Eastwood High School and urging City Council to support item 34 in the name of justice for those who have lost their lives, their loved ones, and their rights to live in the place they once called home.

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As our Pledge Allegiance states, one and indivisible, but this issue is dividing the country like no other, with citizens comparing it to Nazi Germany, with the mass deportation and human rights human beings being treated less than just because of a difference of ethnicity.

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When given the platform, El Pasuans as a whole were able to speak out on an issue that affects us and the more that conflict arises, the harder that we will work to set things right.

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If our border city formulates an effective plan to further prevent the creation of ICE detention centers, it will hopefully show other cities that they can unionize to and create a plan for their own city.

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And push for more ethical solutions as a country.

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Living in a country built on the values of democracy, it is our city's officials' duty to make individual voices heard.

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By rejecting agenda item 34, we are not only failing the people of El Paso, but also what our community has stood for and the morals of our city.

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Juntos somos más fuertes.

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Thank you all for your time.

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Thank you.

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The next speaker is Ms.

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Ryan, Representative Limon.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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You are absolutely outstanding.

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Eastwood High School, the first school to walk out orderly, non-violence, with the administration clearly understanding what you were doing, the last 30 minutes of the class, but to make a point and to stand here today.

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You are just an amazing incredible group of students.

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I am so proud.

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Both of my daughters graduated from Eastwood, and Eastwood is in my district, a district that I represent so proudly.

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Thank you very much for being here today.

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Thank you for speaking up, and thank you for that beautiful future that we have in advance with you.

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And Mayor, on Martin Luther King Day, you and I worked, and Mayor was about an hour there before I was at the food bank.

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And you may remember we were sorting out carrots.

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Congratulations and thank you very much.

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And go troopers.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you, guys.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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The next speaker is Claudia Contreras Siller.

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She will be followed by Aiden Martinez.

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Adrian Gonzalez.

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Angelica Rodriguez.

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Good morning.

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Hello, good morning.

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The last two Tuesdays I was here.

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I spoke in Spanish.

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I explained.

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I lived in Juarez for the first 12 years of my life.

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I explained that I went through hunger for days.

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Not one day, weeks.

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And I want to encourage the news and everybody to educate that law enforcement is not only arresting people, like it's not arresting people without papers, but they're going after drug traffickers, human traffickers.

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We all know that people nowadays cannot even taste weed, cocaine, or anything because it can be laced with fentanyl.

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Okay.

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So let's respect our authorities.

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And I see a representative walking out on me, so that's fine.

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And I am for law enforcement.

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And I just don't want to see this turning violent.

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I've seen posts on FITFAM of them like glorifying the students that are waving our flag.

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And I want to say that whoever waves our Mexican flag, it has to be with honor and respect.

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And also we need to wave the American flag because the United States is the nation that feeds us.

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Okay.

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Also, law enforcement, they put their life on the line for us.

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They're protecting our streets against human trafficking, drugs, crime, etc.

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So I don't want to attack anybody, but let's inform how it is.

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If we want to know if they're arresting criminals, okay.

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Let's ask for the shards.

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We want to know why you arrested this person and why you arrested that one.

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Let's not make it political.

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And it's not okay for students to be walking out saying bad words, insulting the law enforcement, because that's not what true Mexicans stand about.

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I know what it's like to be in Juarez for a long time.

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And I don't want to attack anybody.

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I respect their points of view, but I think there's a lot of miscommunication and misinformation.

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And I want to say, like I said the last two Tuesdays I were I was here speaking in Spanish.

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Do not turn violent against the authorities.

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And also the spirit of uh anarchism is the spirit of antichrist.

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So let's be very, very cautious on how we lead our youth and for them to use their potential in what they have to do it, and God bless the police.

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Thank you.

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God bless America.

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Aiden Martinez, Adrian Gonzalez, Angelica Rodriguez.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, Mayor and Council.

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My name is Angelica Rodriguez.

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I am a local social worker and a member of this community.

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I want to be very clear today.

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The city, the county, didn't make it a political issue.

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We have in this administration has.

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Sorry.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The next speaker is Anna Reza.

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Anna Reza.

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She will be followed by Juan Ortiz.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, Mayor and City Council.

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My name is Anna Reza, and I live in District 7.

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I work for the Episcopal Diocese of the Rio Grande.

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As people of faith, we support Item 34.

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We need to plan and prevent this ICE detention site in our city and in surrounding areas.

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These places are horrible.

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It's evil, and right now our government is requiring people to prove their cases in these places.

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There are 73 73,000 migrants throughout the US locked up.

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There are no bonds currently, so people can't get out unless with Habis Corpus.

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And that isn't attainable for all.

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They have lost lots of their power.

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Some of them are lost all of it.

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But many people of faith in that evil become a light.

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Free them all.

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And let's all work together to stop this project and start to current to stop this project and the current torture sites in our communities and throughout the country.

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This week I was at Fort Bliss.

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I met two daughters, separate families visiting their father.

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One of them was from Phoenix, and the other was from Miami.

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Her and her husband drove 36 hours to visit him.

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One daughter shared that she came because her father didn't sound right.

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The other daughter, as we walked out in the visiting area, said that her dad had lost a lot of weight.

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The man I was there to visit had been in Minnesota for 30 years, had his own cement company.

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He signed his deportation seven days ago.

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Because he can't handle it in there.

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He said, I'm not a criminal.

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They still haven't given him his medicine that he needs.

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It's inhumane.

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They are human beings, not criminals.

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Thank you for bringing this item, and I hope we stop this.

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It's a moral just thing to do.

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We pray for all those innocent people in these sites.

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We pray for our government, including you all, to have the courage and strength that these people trapped in these places have to keep the hope alive and still be loving.

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Let's keep the hope in our hearts and make the commitment to stop this project and close these evil places.

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Thank you.

1:20:43

The next speaker is Juan Ortiz.

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He will be followed by Jessica Morales.

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Juan Ortiz.

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Juan Ortiz, yes, followed by Jessica Morales.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Good day, Mayor Johnson and City Council members.

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My name is Juan Ortiz, and I'm a constituent of District 2.

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I am here to support I am here to speak in support of agenda item number 34.

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I asked you not only to support Agenda 34, but also to explore any means at your disposal to limit the city, um, the city of El Paso's cooperation with ICE.

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Um the newly the new facility uh slated for client will uh no doubt be like all the other impromptu hastily constructed uh concentration camps at uh like the one in camp East Montana in which a worker died during its very construction and in Tornillo.

1:21:39

The fact that grey water has to be taken in and out and potable water be brought in speaks volumes of an untenability.

1:21:47

Our community has been besieged by these human warehousing since Torneo, um, since the Tornillo concentration camp for children, which our group and many others um fought so hard to close down.

1:22:00

Just say just yesterday, a breakout of measles shut down the children's concentration camp in Dilly, Texas.

1:22:06

Since December 3rd, uh three detainees, three human beings have already died at the latest camp on Montana, with Gerardo Um Linas Campos' death being listed as a homicide.

1:22:20

But before that, the Washington Post had already detailed fifty uh sixty violations in 59 days at the camp in East Montana.

1:22:28

For some context, I am a PhD student who walked out many times, by the way.

1:22:34

I'm a I'm a Ph student, and I was recently at a gathering in New York City where a scholar from New York stated that the infamous Rikers Island has a target capacity of around 3,300 to 3,500 people, with 8,000 people detained being considered illegal.

1:22:53

But New York City has a population over of over 8 million and a half million people.

1:22:58

El Paso has six over 600,000.

1:23:01

Um just these two camps alone, Clinton and Montana would house over 8,000 people.

1:23:08

Not only do not only do we not have the infrastructure for such facilities, we do not have the tolerance for such inhumanity.

1:23:16

The camps are an abomination, and we do not want them in our community.

1:23:21

In academia, I very often hear our communities being referred to as death worlds, ruled by necropolitics.

1:23:32

That only served to they only serve to verify that perception.

1:23:36

Our community has always prided itself on being and saying we are a community that knows how to treat immigrants.

1:23:43

Let's prove that with actions.

1:23:46

Now when it's now when it's needed the most, I urge you to make the right decision because you don't get to relive history.

1:23:54

You don't get you only get one chance to do the right thing.

1:23:57

We reached the three.

1:23:58

And you only get one opportunity being on the right side of history.

1:24:08

Jessica Morales will be followed by Eva Wooden, Tanya Hall, and Jaina Garcia.

1:24:14

Good morning.

1:24:15

Good morning, Mayor and City Council members.

1:24:17

My name is Jessica Morales.

1:24:19

I'm a constituent of District 1.

1:24:20

I'm here to speak in support of agenda item 34.

1:24:23

I want the city to prevent expansion of ISA detention facilities.

1:24:27

I'm a licensed social worker, just like my peer right before me.

1:24:30

But I'm also the daughter of proud immigrant parents, and I'm here today to speak from direct firsthand experience.

1:24:36

In 2024, I oversaw detention center operations as a private contractor serving as a private director.

1:24:42

I worked on the ground in El Paso, Eagle Pass, and Tucson, where I witnessed up close how individuals and families were processed, detained, and separated.

1:24:52

I wasn't observing from the outside.

1:24:54

Um I was responsible for helping design, implement, and manage the systems.

1:25:00

What I learned is this detention is not a public safety strategy, it is a business model.

1:25:05

Detention centers operate on guaranteed federal funding streams through successes measured by Bitcount and occupancy, not community safety, crime reduction, or humanitarian outcomes.

1:25:14

Once the facility is established, the incentive becomes expansion, not resolution.

1:25:19

As a social worker who has served the border community for nearly a decade, I also understand something else very deeply.

1:25:26

El Paso's strengths has always come from its immigrant community and from families who are descendants of immigrants.

1:25:31

Our workforce are small businesses or service economy and are by national identity are not weaknesses.

1:25:38

They are the backbone of the city's economy stability.

1:25:41

Introducing additional ICE detention facilities will not only harm us morally, it will harm us economically.

1:25:48

These facilities drain public resources, depress surrounding development and strain local infrastructure and create long-term costs for health care, emergency response, and social services of the federal government does not absorb we do.

1:26:01

I want to be very clear this is not an argument against public safety.

1:26:04

It is an argument for effective public safety.

1:26:08

From an operational standpoint, the funds currently flowing into detention could be far better allocated towards external border protection, targeted fraud investigation, and specialized human trafficking enforcement.

1:26:19

The areas where real criminal networks operate.

1:26:22

Mass detention of individuals already living and working within our communities does not disrupt those networks, it distracts us from them.

1:26:29

What concerns me more is that the expanding detention normalizes the idea that our city should be a staging ground for federal enforcement rather than a protected community with its own economic, moral, and strategic priorities.

1:26:41

El Paso has always led by being thoughtful, collaborative, and humane.

1:26:44

Preventing the still show of ice detention facilities is not defiance, it's responsible governance.

1:26:49

I strongly urge you to support it in 34 and take further steps to limit city cooperation that enables the expansion of detention infrastructure.

1:26:56

Protecting our community means investing in solutions that actually make us safer as systems that profit from our proximity to the border.

1:27:04

Thank you for your time.

1:27:05

Thank you.

1:27:06

The next speaker is Eva Wooden, followed by Tanya Hall and Jaina Garcia.

1:27:13

Good morning, Miss Wooden.

1:27:14

Good morning.

1:27:15

My name is I am here to support the proposition 34.

1:27:20

I have a personal story.

1:27:23

I'm an immigrant, and I'm an immigrant from eastern Europe.

1:27:27

My family lived through fascism and communism.

1:27:30

And I immigrated to America to uh seek the freedom to and justice and all that this country has to offer.

1:27:39

And I always been so proud to be an American.

1:27:43

And now look around.

1:27:45

You see the concentration camps being built, the ICE acting as Gestapo did when they came to Europe, to Eastern Europe.

1:27:57

And I uh just want to urge you, because I do support the proposition territory, and I urge you to take action to make us the citizens here in El Paso to feel safe again.

1:28:14

Yeah, I don't want to live next to concentration camp.

1:28:17

I don't.

1:28:18

Thank you.

1:28:19

Thank you so much.

1:28:20

The next speaker is Tanya Hall.

1:28:26

Tanya Hall will be followed by Jaina Garcia and Susan Urbeta.

1:28:30

Good morning.

1:28:31

Good morning.

1:28:32

Good morning.

1:28:33

My name is Tanya Hall.

1:28:34

I'm here with Indivisible the 915.

1:28:36

I do live in District 1, but our members are in every El Paso City Council district, as well as in the greater El Paso area, and we strongly support agenda item number 34.

1:28:46

El Paso must stand firm.

1:28:48

There will be no concentration camps here.

1:28:50

We want ICE out now.

1:28:52

Make no mistake, ICE is prepared to expand in El Paso.

1:28:55

And if they are successful, it will mean more civil rights violations, more human rights violations, more violence, and more death.

1:29:03

The people are saying no more, but what will our leaders say?

1:29:07

The very ones we voted for.

1:29:09

Choose the right thing for El Paso.

1:29:11

El Paso should be known for its vibrant art, culture, and heritage, not concentration camps.

1:29:17

There are already an estimated 73,000 people in these facilities across the nation, with Fort Bliss being the biggest one.

1:29:24

They want 23 even larger facilities.

1:29:28

Make no mistake, if they build them, they will fill them.

1:29:32

Continue El Paso's legacy of strong, resilient border community, one that paves the way for humanity regarding human dignity and flourishing communities.

1:29:42

A city that understands to its core that immigrants are interwoven into the very fabric of El Paso.

1:29:49

Immigrants are not our enemy.

1:29:52

Immigrants are future Americans.

1:29:55

As they've always been, and we will fight for them, for we are all immigrants here.

1:30:00

You find yourself in a time that demands action, that demands bravery and resilience.

1:30:06

We will remember how you vote today.

1:30:09

Let us remember you as the leaders we need.

1:30:13

True civil leaders who care for their community and its health, it's happiness.

1:30:20

Support agenda item number 34 unanimously.

1:30:23

Take every action within your authority against concentration camps in El Paso, and work with the county to keep them out of the Greater El Paso area.

1:30:32

Thank you.

1:30:33

Thank you.

1:30:34

The next speaker is Jaina Garcia.

1:30:40

Jaina Garcia.

1:30:44

Susan Urubietta.

1:30:48

She will be followed by Barry Walter, Alyssa Garza, Eduardo Castillo, Joanne Bernal, Kyle Nam.

1:30:56

Good morning.

1:30:57

Good morning.

1:30:58

My name is Susanna.

1:30:59

Thank you, Representatives Limon and Canales for putting this on the agenda.

1:31:06

We know what happens when a migrant detention facility is built in El Paso and ICE comes to town.

1:31:11

Within weeks it becomes a place of unbelievable horror and torture.

1:31:15

A place where people are deprived of their rights and dignity in a place where people die and are killed at the hands of federal agents.

1:31:22

This Eastside facility is now more appropriately and commonly referred to as a death camp or a concentration camp.

1:31:29

Thank you for your words, Mary.

1:31:30

But they were words.

1:31:32

This now is an urgent matter, and we need action.

1:31:37

This is a call to action.

1:31:39

The best argument against a second camp is the very existence of the first.

1:31:44

The community has spoken loudly in condemnation and with outrage.

1:31:48

This is not who we are.

1:31:50

We the people have spoken.

1:31:53

This is not who we are.

1:31:54

We the people have been marching, protesting, holding vigils and rallies, writing postcards, making calls.

1:32:01

Yes, holding vigils for the dead, holding vigils for the dead.

1:32:08

Now it's the government's turn.

1:32:10

You're our leaders.

1:32:11

We put you here.

1:32:13

Step up to the plate.

1:32:15

We are watching you.

1:32:17

We're tired of hearing there is nothing that local government can do to stop the supreme authority of the federal government in the area of immigration.

1:32:25

I do not believe that is true.

1:32:27

If you didn't watch television last night, stream it today.

1:32:31

There are municipalities all over the United States doing extraordinary things in red states, in tiny villages and counties all over the United States, being brave, being innovative, and being smart.

1:32:47

They're doing it.

1:32:51

I get it, but this is your wake-up call.

1:32:54

You are being tested.

1:32:55

This is your moment to, as they said on the stage in Broadway, to rise up.

1:33:05

Yes, join forces with the county government.

1:33:08

The people of the city and the county will love that you do that.

1:33:13

I have a list of quotes in my home that I look to often.

1:33:17

And one of them is, and I have no author to attribute it to how we respond to what happens to us defines who we are.

1:33:29

Thank you.

1:33:31

Thank you.

1:33:32

The next speaker is Barry Walter.

1:33:38

Mr.

1:33:39

Walter will be followed by Elisa Garza, Eduardo Castillo, Joan Bernal.

1:33:43

Good morning.

1:33:45

Good morning.

1:33:46

Morning and thank you, Mayor and City Council members, and thank all of you humanity for being here and showing up.

1:33:54

Because we're showing up for those who can't show up for themselves and can't speak for themselves.

1:34:00

All this national government made up chaos has gotten way too many focused in the wrong directions.

1:34:07

Icemen and concentration camps are now the pinnacle of this chaos.

1:34:13

It is easy to imagine what a child must feel when they're swooped off the streets, and even those that remain hiding thinking these icemans are out to get them.

1:34:23

Myself including think that these icemen are like the boogeyman, but much, much worse because the horrors and the mission and the performance of icemen is so horribly real.

1:34:35

I do not think we're here today to gather more information, for we already know that the roundup of human beings is being done in ways that even cattle drives are conducted with more dignity as they detain and shadow cattles the slaughter.

1:34:49

A harmonious city, country, and world of humanity requires conscious choices of what colour clutter to allow and what clutter to remove.

1:35:00

With clarity, calm, respect, and emotional maturity, we are here for uniting what only appears to be dividing us.

1:35:05

We are here not with complaints, but to witness the conscious choices and rightful declarations to act on as we go forward.

1:35:14

We are here not to just be the voices for those who cannot speak for themselves.

1:35:18

We are each here for our own salvation, for it is with clarity of mind and corrected intentions that we hear and declare that there is a much better way than icemen and concentration camps.

1:35:29

Humanity does not need icemen in black cloaks dressed as boogeyman.

1:35:33

We need them in white outfits and open hands and hearts, offering solutions to our problems, not being the problem.

1:35:40

With each one of us declare we are united and focused for real solutions, not more concentration camps, deportations, and rendering of our neighbors without due process.

1:35:50

Let each one of us declare to not see ourselves as divided, separated only by complaining voices and planted in a mind through the bot and paid for propaganda for a divided people is already defeated.

1:36:01

We are one humanity and we have a very important job to do.

1:36:04

Humanity is capable and willing to do whatever it takes.

1:36:07

We are not lazy, we're capable.

1:36:10

Look and listen to all these that are here today.

1:36:12

Look and listen to the three million, then seven million, and in the next No Kings rally, there'll be 13 million of us peacefully rallying and protesting on the streets of our United States.

1:36:24

With so much gratitude, we join the voices of humanity and peacefully protest to open the doors to more abundance and better today's and tomorrow's.

1:36:32

There is no complaining or focusing on what's missing.

1:36:35

Let us no longer be blinded to everything already being done through Icemen and the building of concentration camps and the treatment of humanity like cattle on their way to slaughter.

1:36:45

The existing sir.

1:36:46

You have reached the three minutes.

1:36:48

Thank you so much.

1:36:49

The next speaker is Alessa Garza.

1:36:55

Alessa Garza.

1:37:00

Eduardo Castillo.

1:37:02

He will be followed by Joanne Bernal and Kyle Nabb.

1:37:09

Good morning.

1:37:09

Good morning, Mayor, Council members.

1:37:11

Ms.

1:37:11

Limon is our council representative.

1:37:13

My name is Eduardo Castillo.

1:37:15

I'm a retired attorney here in El Paso.

1:37:18

The last 26 years of my career I spent with the Department of Justice.

1:37:22

Across the country, communities of every political stripe are raising their voices against actions they believe violate constitutional principles and basic human dignity.

1:37:32

This is not a partisan moment, it is a moral one.

1:37:36

When any government agency exceeds its authority or inflicts harm, the greatest danger is not the abuse itself, but the willingness of ordinary people to look away.

1:37:47

History has shown us what happens when societies choose silence.

1:37:52

In moments of crisis, people will bury their heads, convincing themselves that if they do not look at injustice in the face, it will simply fade on its own.

1:38:02

But silence has never protected a community.

1:38:05

Silence has never corrected an abuse of power.

1:38:08

Silence has only ever empowered it.

1:38:12

El Paso is not a city that turns away.

1:38:15

We are a binational, multicultural community shaped by generations of immigrants, families, and workers who have built this region together.

1:38:25

When constitutional rights are threatened, when families are torn apart, when fear replaces trust, our community cannot afford to stand on the sidelines.

1:38:36

Our identity gives us a unique responsibility and a unique strength.

1:38:42

Cities across America, red and blue alike, are saying clearly that they will not allow unconstitutional actions to take place within their borders.

1:38:52

El Paso should not only join that chorus, we should lead it.

1:38:57

Our voice carries weight because we understand the border not as a line of division, but as a place of connection.

1:39:06

This is a moment that demands clarity.

1:39:09

It demands courage, it demands unity.

1:39:13

Whatever our politics, we share a commitment to fairness, to due process, and to the belief that every person deserves to be treated with dignity and respect.

1:39:25

Those values are not negotiable, and they are not optional.

1:39:29

Silence is acquiescence.

1:39:32

El Paso is not a silent city.

1:39:34

And for this reason, I stand in support of item number 34.

1:39:38

Thank you.

1:39:42

The next speaker is Joanne Bernard.

1:39:45

She will be followed by Kyle Knapp.

1:39:48

Good morning.

1:39:49

Good morning, uh Mayor, Council.

1:39:51

My name is Joanne Bernard.

1:39:53

I'm a retired attorney, and I come to speak in favor in support of Item 34.

1:40:00

Thank you to Representative Limon, Representative Granales for putting this item on.

1:40:04

Um this is an important moment in El Paso's history.

1:40:09

Every single credible report has indicated that the current in the current detention facilities in El Paso, people are routinely abused, neglected, and sometimes tragically killed.

1:40:21

There is no dispute of that.

1:40:24

The question then is what you will do going forward.

1:40:28

The eyes of the country are literally on you at this moment and what you will do.

1:40:34

It is my opinion that saying that the city has no role in immigration enforcement is simply an insufficient answer.

1:40:44

It may be true that you don't have the authority to unilaterally stop detention facilities, but it is not true that you have no power to rise together to oppose detention facilities, to do it politically, to do it morally, and to take every legal action that you can in unison with other jurisdictions to unite and oppose this facility.

1:41:17

There are many things that the city can do.

1:41:20

We urge you to do those.

1:41:44

Thank you, John.

1:41:44

Thank you.

1:41:45

The next speaker is Kyle Nabb.

1:41:50

Kyle Nabb will be will be followed by Ivan Diaz, Marisa Limon Garza, Andrew Husby, and Anna Valtiera.

1:42:00

Good morning.

1:42:01

Good morning.

1:42:02

Uh Mayor and City Council members.

1:42:04

I'm here.

1:42:05

My name is Kyle Nabb.

1:42:06

I'm here to speak in support of agenda item 34.

1:42:09

Uh, like you said, we don't want detention centers here in El Paso, so we must do everything in our power to prevent the expand expanding of these ICE detention centers.

1:42:19

Um I also beseech you to limit support and cooperation with ICE to the absolutely bare minimum possible because they're snatching people off the street, our community members, our neighbors, and they're stripping them away from their family and their houses all because of a paperwork issue.

1:42:39

And I I wonder if if these if these resources might be better allocated to expediting the process of getting them the paperwork and the citizenship that they deserve.

1:42:50

ICE has shown that they are not to be trusted, that they think that they are above the law, and they are dangerous.

1:42:58

So, in the interest of keeping the city of El Paso safe and ensuring the safety of the people that live here, we want ICE out of El Paso.

1:43:07

Thank you.

1:43:08

Thank you.

1:43:20

Anna Valpierra.

1:43:23

Good morning.

1:43:25

Good morning.

1:43:26

My name is Sivon Diaz.

1:43:27

I am providing comment on behalf of the ACLU of Texas to support item 34 and oppose the expansion of detention centers in El Paso.

1:43:35

Over six months ago, the ACLU of Texas warned that the use of the Ford Blaze Military and Ice immigration detention camp will lead to human and civil rights catastrophe.

1:43:46

And we are already seeing that.

1:43:47

In December, we had the ACLU of Texas and our partners' partners send the federal government a public letter documenting abusive conditions at the tank camp.

1:43:58

We documented the following.

1:44:07

The camp denying people with serious medical vulnerabilities or medications and medical visits.

1:44:14

People facing retaliation for even asking for the medication that they need.

1:44:20

The food is causing widespread illness, but people feel the need that they need to eat it anyway because they have no other options to stay alive.

1:44:30

Water filled with extrament pools into the areas where detained people are expected to eat.

1:44:50

The city of El Paso cannot allow the construction of any new ICE detention centers in our community as the abuses documented at Camp East Montana remain unresolved.

1:45:00

The Trump administration is now seeking to detain 80,000 additional people in privately owned warehouses.

1:45:08

He plans to buy or lease across the country, including here in our own city of El Paso.

1:45:15

We should not allow more detention centers.

1:45:18

Because when our neighbors in detention camps are being abused and deprived of their most basic constitutional human rights, none of us in El Paso are safe.

1:45:29

The next speaker is Marisa Limon Garza.

1:45:35

Followed by Andrew Hughesby.

1:45:38

Good morning.

1:45:40

Good morning.

1:45:40

Good morning, greetings, Mayor and Council.

1:45:42

My name is Marisa Limon Garza, and I'm the executive director of Las Americas Immigrant Advocacy Center.

1:45:47

I, like so many borderland uh residents, stand in full opposition to the construction of any new ICE facility, which are detention and deportation sites.

1:45:57

And we call for the immediate closure of all ICE facilities in our area, and here's why.

1:46:02

As one of the two nonprofit immigration legal service providers for three pre-existing ICE detention facilities with the capacity it hosts close to 6,000 people.

1:46:12

An additional 8,500 people is astronomical.

1:46:16

One percent of all attorneys who submitted data to a 2024-2025 statistical report from the Texas Bar Association practice immigration law.

1:46:38

This administration does not respect the Constitution, the rule of law, or due process.

1:46:43

It will not miraculously do so for a new facility.

1:46:46

We recently submitted a demand letter with colleagues from Estrella del Paso, the ACLU, Texas Civil Rights Project, and others regarding the inhumane detention conditions at Campis Montana at Fort Bliss.

1:46:56

We all know how deadly detention can be.

1:46:59

In addition to abhorrent conditions, the attorneys and legal service riders wait up to an hour to visit people detained in custody despite prior coordination with ICE officials.

1:47:08

On other occasions, ICE tells us they cannot find the person at all.

1:47:12

Or they can't bring someone out because they're doing count, which can last up to one and a quarter hours, and this is conducted twice a day.

1:47:19

Medical neglect is real and intentional.

1:47:22

It was a miracle when a man in his forties with type 2 diabetes was miraculously cured since he was denied his medication for close to two weeks.

1:47:31

It was only after he agreed to deportation that he was provided his medication.

1:47:36

This is not hyperbole.

1:47:38

This is real.

1:47:42

Sites so large make you wonder who else will be detained, who else will be deported, because as El Pasoans is Fronterizos, we know that it's not just the other.

1:47:53

The immigrant is us.

1:47:54

And so we ask you to stand strong, vote in favor of item 34, and protect Fronterizos immigrants and our way of life every day.

1:48:04

Thank you.

1:48:05

Thank you.

1:48:08

The next speaker is Andrew Hughesby.

1:48:13

Andrew will be followed by Anna Valtira.

1:48:17

Good morning.

1:48:20

Excuse me.

1:48:20

Good morning, Mayor Johnson and City Council.

1:48:22

My name is Andrew Hughesby.

1:48:24

Um I'm a constituent in uh district eight.

1:48:27

I'm here to speak in favor of agendum uh agenda item number 34.

1:48:32

I'm not scaled nor comfortable with public speaking, but I am here today because I feel it is my civic duty.

1:48:39

The entire country is watching in horror as ICE commits atrocities from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C., and most recently in Minnesota, and it has to stop.

1:48:49

My mom is from North Dakota.

1:48:51

My uh father is from uh Los Angeles, uh, but El Paso is where they met, and this is where I was born.

1:49:00

As a community, we know better than to let ice rain terror upon us.

1:49:04

I was born at uh William Beaumont Medical Center, just north of the border, and many of my friends happen to be born a few miles south in Ciudad Ware.

1:49:13

It never meant much to me which side of the border you were born on.

1:49:17

We went to school together, we worked our first jobs together, and our differences amounted to a bit of paperwork.

1:49:24

Everybody in this room has much more in common with each other and with our neighbors than we do with the people in Washington.

1:49:30

We know better.

1:49:32

The overwhelming majority of migrants, legal or otherwise, are more upstanding members of our community, and I will refuse to stand by what our ICE targets and attacks uh members of that community.

1:49:43

And we just saw ICE terrorized Minneapolis, they murdered Renee Good, they murdered Alex Predi.

1:49:50

They have no intention of backing down right here in El Paso.

1:49:54

ICE killed her Heraldo Lunas Campos.

1:50:00

Lunas Campos, according to the Texas Tribune, the death was ruled a homicide from suffocation while restrained.

1:50:05

We need to take a stand against further ICE activity.

1:50:08

They terrorize Minneapolis with impunity.

1:50:10

We cannot imagine the horror we would witness if ICE is allowed to operate unrestrained in this majority Hispanic community on the southern border.

1:50:17

And we are El Pasuans, and we know better.

1:50:20

Get ICE out now.

1:50:22

Thank you.

1:50:23

Next speaker is Ana Valterra.

1:50:28

Anna Valpierra will be followed by Shailing Cohen Jones.

1:50:33

Good morning.

1:50:34

Good morning.

1:50:35

Um my name is Sana.

1:50:37

I was here last week, but I am here once again because this issue has not been solved, but because it continues to grow.

1:50:44

We as a community, we keep showing up because we care deeply for our neighbors, and because this proposed detention center doesn't represent who El Paso is.

1:50:53

This project will place a significant strain in our city's already limited resources, and we as a city don't have the sufficient legal aid and capacity to provide representation for the number of people disability is expected to detain.

1:51:06

This center will funnel more people into a system where access to attorney and due process is scarce.

1:51:12

Infrastructure, emergency services, and public found will be redirected away from residents and towards sustaining the detention.

1:51:18

Over 80% of a population is Hispanic, and based on FBI crime data, we are consistently recognized as one of the safest largest city in the country.

1:51:27

Our violent crime rate is lower both in the national and state averages.

1:51:31

And the safety never came from detention center militarization or mass enforcement.

1:51:35

It came from families, immigrants, workers, and neighbors looking out for one another.

1:51:40

ICE has relied on racial profiling under the immigration and nationality act, which has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

1:51:47

In cases that allow race to be considered in a migration stop, in a city like El Paso, that means our appearance or language and identity became the ground for suspicion.

1:51:57

This would not make your paso safer.

1:51:59

It will make our community feel targeted and unsafe.

1:52:02

There's also a documented pattern of abuse connected to ITE enforcement both inside and outside the facilities.

1:52:09

A 19-year-old detainee identified as Samuel claimed an officer broke his tooth, crushed his testicles as another officer forced his fingers deep into his ear, permanently damaging his hearing.

1:52:21

This inside the detention center within our district.

1:52:35

Doctors said they found plastic metals throughout his side, and his doctor said that it was a miracle that he's still alive.

1:52:42

Many of the people who end up in ICE custody came to this country believing in what we are taught to call the American dream.

1:52:48

They saw hope in our country, hope for stability, safety, education, and the chance to work with the dignity.

1:52:54

They believe that we the people meant burden, opportunity, and humanities, not cages and detention.

1:53:00

The detention center, this treatment do not honor the American dream or any of the things that the country stands for.

1:53:07

I am scared for my community, and I am scared for myself, and I know that many people here share that fear.

1:53:19

So again, we asked the county to reaffirm the opposition to the detention center and to choose policies that will reflect who we are.

1:53:32

Thank you.

1:53:32

The next speaker is Shaylin.

1:53:37

Shailen Cohen Jones, followed by Arnulfo Hernandez.

1:53:41

Miss Prime?

1:53:42

Yes, sir.

1:53:42

Do we have Ms.

1:53:43

Carberhall on phone after this?

1:53:44

Yes, sir.

1:53:44

I'm calling the people that are in person first, and then I'll call all those folks that are sitting in the queue.

1:53:49

Perfect.

1:53:50

If that's okay.

1:53:50

Perfect.

1:53:51

Good morning.

1:53:53

Good morning.

1:53:54

Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

1:53:55

My name is Shay.

1:53:57

I'm a resident of District 8.

1:53:59

I'm also a student.

1:54:00

And I have deep, deep love for this community.

1:54:02

I'm joining many others here in support of agenda item number 34, preventing the expansion of ICE detention in El Paso, and additionally, pursuing all possible avenues to limit city cooperation with ICE.

1:54:14

Unequivocal opposition to detention is not an abstract talking point.

1:54:18

It is the logical conclusion of witnessing the massive, immediate and long-term violence and trauma that detention inflicts.

1:54:25

Now and over the long arc of history.

1:54:30

Camp East Montana is not the first concentration camp to be located on Fort Bliss.

1:54:34

The base was first a site of Japanese American incarceration.

1:54:38

Others here have laid out what some of the beyond abusive and deadly conditions look like in El Paso's existing camps, including Camp East Montana.

1:54:47

As you've heard previously, a coalition of rights groups from Texas and New Mexico recently put out a 20-page report detailing its abuses, including death, torture, sexual abuse, medical neglect, poisoned food and water, third country removals, starvation.

1:55:01

I want to orient us now to how much people inside the camps are risking to resist their own further subjection to these conditions.

1:55:09

Last week, for example, families detained in Delhi, a concentration camp holding children, not unlike the one that community came together to resist in Tornillo, protested en masse.

1:55:18

You could hear in videos the cries of the children children shouting Libertad, let us go.

1:55:24

What do we owe them?

1:55:25

And I want us to think about this very seriously.

1:55:27

What is it that we on the outside owe the people behind those camp walls?

1:55:31

We must all answer that and act accordingly.

1:55:33

Council members, here is an opportunity to do just that.

1:55:37

Prefacing this with the fact that we're talking about people's loved ones, not numbers.

1:55:41

There are currently over 70,000 people in ICE detention, as of ICE's own most recent release of data this week.

1:55:47

And I want to be very clear.

1:56:45

Thank you for your time.

1:56:46

Thank you.

1:56:47

The next speaker is Armulco Hernandez.

1:56:52

Mr.

1:56:52

Hernandez will be followed by Uriya Ramirez.

1:56:57

Good morning.

1:56:58

Good morning.

1:56:59

Good morning.

1:57:00

My name is Arnulfo Hernandez.

1:57:03

I am a citizen of El Paso.

1:57:05

I am a voter.

1:57:08

I'm a United States Navy veteran.

1:57:12

A retired lawyer, although still hold a uh active uh license to practice law in California.

1:57:17

And I'm also the co-author of the book, The Men of Company E.

1:57:22

I do wonder out loud where my representative Art Fierro is today to vote on this important issue.

1:57:29

Yes, Mayor, we are a safe city.

1:57:31

Yes, we are a city built by immigrants, and yes, it's a city that we don't want ice in El Paso.

1:57:40

Representative Limon, Representative Canalis, thank you for this item.

1:57:44

I urge the plan of action to prevent the installation of any ICE facility in El Paso.

1:57:49

Consider the recent action taken by the city of Kansas City.

1:57:53

City Council, led by its black mayor, Quentin Lucas unanimously passed an ordinance imposing a five-year moratorium on non-municipal detention facilities in Kansas City.

1:58:07

If I might just quote from a press release, um it applies to uh they're thinking of a mass detention facility holding up to 10,000 people in Kansas City.

1:58:18

The ordinance applies to any application to establish expand any detention corrections or carsal facilities not owned by the city of uh Kansas City through January 15th, 1931.

1:58:32

It applies to any pending and future applications.

1:58:35

The city will use all its available resources to enforce the moratorium.

1:58:41

Statement is very clear.

1:58:43

He says we consistently hear from the residents that the city's focus should be on economic development and housing and not mass detention facilities holding thousands, Mayor Lucas said.

1:58:55

Our priority is building businesses, homes, and schools that strengthen and grow our community on a platform, Mayor Johnson, you're in.

1:59:07

The action of DHS, ICE and Border Patrol hearkens back to the internment of Japanese Americans.

1:59:17

You were in World War II into concentration camps because of anti-Japanese prejudice during World War II.

1:59:24

Let us not repeat history again.

1:59:30

The forcible removal of people because of their color, the language they speak, their accent, or how they look is unacceptable.

1:59:39

We are a country of laws of a constitution, which you say agencies are now violating.

1:59:46

We must oppose that and do it forcefully and be a beacon to this country that in this far away land called El Paso, Texas, bordering Juarez.

2:00:00

We're still the United States, and we believe in our constitution, and we will defend it to the end.

2:00:06

Thank you.

2:00:14

Followed by Adrian Palacios.

2:00:22

Good morning, Mr.

2:00:22

Jamidas.

2:00:23

Good morning.

2:00:25

Good morning.

2:00:25

Good morning, uh, City Council.

2:00:27

And uh just wanted to say uh to need to come speak to you guys.

2:00:30

I'm a tutor and a teaching assistant at UTEP.

2:00:33

Um, and I am in favor for Article 34 to prevent any new detention centers.

2:00:38

Um, as someone involved with the university, I try to make it a point to engage with the community.

2:00:43

Um I talked to a lot of people of El Paso, underprivileged areas, um, but all of El Paso and uh students, parents, colleagues, people who make up this city on a daily basis, um, those that call this place home.

2:00:55

I'm not suggesting that I'm speaking for everybody in El Paso because that's impossible, but I did feel compelled to come speak to you all here today.

2:01:02

Um a lot of people are afraid about this detention center.

2:01:07

Um I wonder as a conservative, what does this hyperfear do to our city?

2:01:12

Um I sincerely sincerely worry about the spirit of this city moving forward, its future for my community members who are afraid to speak out, who wanted to come here today but cannot.

2:01:22

Um I was raised by a single mother and my TIA who have given this who have given to the city for over fifty years, um, and they are afraid.

2:01:30

Um and I can speak for probably so many other family members.

2:01:33

There's a high level of concern and anxiety, and understandably so.

2:01:36

Um I'm I'm by no means calling our city weak and afraid, but rather we are strong as evident by everyone coming out here today uh to oppose this detention center.

2:01:46

People are dying.

2:01:47

Uh Gerardo Lunas Campos, Victor Manuel Diaz, Francisco Gaspar Andres, and I'm leaving countless others out.

2:01:53

People are being mistreated, and my community members are coming asking me to come here and ask.

2:01:58

Um, can you all understand that many people feel like this abomination is an attack on them?

2:02:04

And how does it this improve their well-being?

2:02:07

So I ask, when will we stop being attacked and made to feel afraid?

2:02:11

And which side of history will our children be standing on due to the choices we and you make today.

2:02:17

I'm urging you all to grant us peace and not allow terror to be brought and bred here, please.

2:02:22

This city has already been through enough.

2:02:25

I'm urging you to get out there and get together with your community members, the ones you're meant to look out for, and let's figure out how to build our people up and not punish them with this center.

2:02:35

Um, our community members do not deserve to live in fear.

2:02:38

Enough is enough, and let's do better for them, please today and with real action.

2:02:43

Thank you.

2:02:44

Thank you.

2:02:45

The next speaker is Adrian Palacios.

2:02:53

Good morning.

2:02:54

Uh, my name is Adrian Palacios.

2:02:56

I'm a first generation Mexican American, born and raised here in El Paso.

2:03:00

Uh oh, sorry.

2:03:06

Let's see.

2:03:07

Um I work on an old folks home.

2:03:11

My viejitos are worrying themselves sick, quite literally.

2:03:15

Worried for the families, word for the neighbors with the threat to public safety imposed by ICE with a racial pipeline and excess force that we have seen on the news, newspapers.

2:03:30

I'm here speaking uh favor of N34 to prevent the construction of more ICE facilities.

2:03:40

Um the camp at East Montana is was built and uh and is operated under direction of ICE by acquisition logistics.

2:03:50

They had 60 violations in the first 50 days, which is no surprise considering they have no former experience running correctional facilities.

2:03:58

And had not have a contract greater than 16 million dollars.

2:04:02

Suddenly they get a 1.2 billion potential uh contract.

2:04:08

The medical contractor is loyal source, who has seen previous scrutiny for critically understaffing border facilities, medical neglect, as evidenced by the detainee deaths last year being uh 32 up from the previous year, 24 uh being 11 with the addition of uh two legal observers that were killed by ICE, in addition to all of the countless folks that have lost their lives.

2:04:43

With um the American Civil Rights Union calling for a closure of Campis Montana, we should not have any more camps here in El Paso, nor more Abuelitas crying.

2:05:00

And given the this country's gradual descent into fascism, evidenced by this further merging of corporate and state interests.

2:05:14

And meets this administration with the resistance that it deserves.

2:05:18

Thank you.

2:05:19

Thank you.

2:05:25

I will now call the people that signed up to speak by phone at 10 a.m.

2:05:29

The first person is Adrian Gonzalez.

2:05:32

Adrian Gonzalez, if you're in the queue, star six, please to unmute your telephone.

2:05:38

Adrian Gonzalez, star six, please to unmute your telephone.

2:05:45

I don't see Mr.

2:05:46

Gonzalez's phone number in the queue.

2:05:48

We'll move to Jaina Garcia.

2:05:51

Jaina Garcia, if you're in the queue.

2:05:55

Star 6, please hear you.

2:06:02

Jaina Garcia.

2:06:04

Star 6, please.

2:06:06

I don't see that phone number in the queue either.

2:06:09

Alyssa Garza, star six, please to unmute your telephone.

2:06:16

Alyssa Garza, I see you in the queue.

2:06:19

Please press star six to unmute your telephone.

2:06:26

You're still muted, ma'am, star six, please.

2:06:31

Alyssa Garza, star six.

2:06:37

Okay, I still see your your microphone on mute.

2:06:40

I'll move on to Veronica Carvajal.

2:06:43

Star six, please.

2:06:46

Veronica Carvajal.

2:06:49

Star six.

2:06:53

I don't see Ms.

2:06:54

Carvajal's phone number in the queue.

2:06:56

Eugene Montag.

2:06:59

Star six, please.

2:07:03

Eugene Montag.

2:07:05

I see your phone number in the queue.

2:07:06

Star six will unmute your telephone.

2:07:12

Eugene Montag, star six.

2:07:18

We'll move on to Kaylin Salais.

2:07:22

Star six, please.

2:07:25

I don't see Mr.

2:07:26

Salais' phone number or Ms.

2:07:28

Aley's phone number in the queue.

2:07:30

Anjali Terranson.

2:07:35

Star six, please.

2:07:39

I don't see that phone number in the queue either.

2:07:42

Michaela de la Cruz.

2:07:45

Star six.

2:07:49

I don't see that phone number in the queue either.

2:07:52

Kevin Amezuka.

2:07:55

Star six, please.

2:07:58

Yeah, I hope it's out of that one.

2:08:03

I don't see that person unmuting their microphone.

2:08:08

I'm not sure if we're having technical difficulties, mayor, because I just requested IT to come out.

2:08:13

I do see some phone numbers in the queue, but I don't I don't see them turning on their mic.

2:08:19

Let's give IT a second, Ms.

2:08:20

Prime.

2:08:20

Yes, sir.

2:08:25

I'm not sure if that's if we can unmute them.

2:08:39

Okay, we have we have Ms.

2:08:41

Carvajal, I believe.

2:08:42

Ms.

2:08:42

Carvajal is ready.

2:08:45

Yes, good morning, mayor counsel.

2:08:47

Good morning.

2:08:49

Good morning.

2:08:50

My name is Veronica Carvajal.

2:08:51

I live in District 2.

2:08:53

I am proud to be the great granddaughter of immigrants.

2:08:55

Please vote yes on item 34.

2:08:58

Thank you, Representative Limone and Carnalez for placing this very important item on the agenda.

2:09:02

I am so incredibly grateful for the immigrants who continue to build and sustain this country despite living with such fear.

2:09:09

I am grateful for the advocates who have fought for decades to help immigrants have access to legal justice and have painstakingly documented their stories so that our hearts could be changed.

2:09:20

I am grateful for the students who know this country's history and refuse to let this government repeat it.

2:09:27

As a lawyer, I am outraged at the illegalities being committed by ICE in our communities and in ICE detention centers, including the deadly Camp East Montana.

2:09:37

As an environmentalist, I am appalled that our water and electricity is already being consumed by Camp East Montana, and that other ICE detention centers could do even more damage.

2:09:48

The City of El Paso should not be complicit in any of the illegal acts being committed by ICE.

2:09:53

The City of El Paso should not be complicit in creating wells for corporations on the back of our immigrants and their families.

2:10:00

The city must take action in every way possible to speak clearly and without hesitation.

2:10:05

ICE is not welcome in El Paso.

2:10:07

Thank you.

2:10:08

Thank you.

2:10:09

The next speaker is Alyssa Garza.

2:10:13

Good morning.

2:10:14

Alyssa Garza, Star 6, please to unmute your telephone.

2:10:21

Go ahead, ma'am.

2:10:22

You have three minutes.

2:10:23

Oh.

2:10:23

Can you hear me?

2:10:24

Oh, okay.

2:10:25

Thank you so much.

2:10:26

Uh, my name is Alyssa, and I'm part of District 7.

2:10:29

I'm asking El Paso City Council to support item number 34 and develop a plan of action to prevent another ICE detention facility.

2:10:37

I also want the city to limit its cooperation with ICE.

2:10:41

As a granddaughter of immigrants, I'm very frustrated and angry about what is occurring nationally, statewide, and even in our own community.

2:10:48

I commend students and everyone in our community for walking out and exercising your legal unprotected right and making public comments today.

2:10:56

I don't want another ICE detention center, and the city should explore its legal authority to prevent another one from being built.

2:11:03

Something has to be done.

2:11:04

People who are in these detention facilities are people who have work visas, pending asylum cases, their doctor recipients.

2:11:12

ICE is also arresting children.

2:11:14

These people have families, they have loved ones, and they contribute to our communities every day.

2:11:33

The facilities that already do exist here in El Paso have numerous complaints and obvious evidence of human rights violations.

2:11:39

Immigrants are people, they're human beings.

2:11:42

What is happening nationwide and in our community is morally wrong.

2:11:46

I was raised in El Paso and our borderline community shouldn't be known for having the largest detention facilities.

2:11:52

We are known for our unique culture and kindness and how we welcome immigrants.

2:11:56

I'm proud to stand with other community members here today who recognize the injustices that are happening.

2:12:01

So once again, I'm asking city council to support item number 34.

2:12:05

Thank you.

2:12:06

The next speaker is Eugene Monte.

2:12:11

Eugene Montaigne, star six, please to unmute your microphone.

2:12:17

Eugene Montaigue.

2:12:20

Star 6, please will unmute your microphone.

2:12:26

Good morning.

2:12:27

You have three minutes.

2:12:29

Thank you very much.

2:12:32

And I'm strongly opposed to building another massive detention center in El Paso and urge this governmental body that represents the people of El Paso to fight against it on behalf of the people they represent and then in favor of the current item.

2:12:47

We already have the largest detention center in the country where three people have died in January.

2:12:53

One of them ruled a homicide.

2:12:55

Just in the past weeks, we have seen what ICE is capable of when hundreds of cameras are trained on them in broad daylight.

2:13:01

We owe it to our community and our humanity not to build a second massive detention center where the most vulnerable are housed without oversight, often without access to counsel or meaningful access to counsel, or without any way to prevent abuse or the denial of rights.

2:13:19

We cannot ignore that ICE and this administration have immediately jumped to the most aggressive forms of violence and then obstruct in every way possible any kind of oversight, investigation or accountability while also smearing the names of victims in any way they can.

2:13:36

When I spoke last week at the commissioner's court, I noted the following.

2:13:40

In only the past weeks, we had seen the ACLU and the Guardian reporting sexual torture of detainees, reports that ICE has stopped paying medical providers, leaked videos of overcrowded and inhumane detention centers, videos from the from the detainees begging to from the families at Delhi begging to be let out, and a pro-publica and PBS report of MOLV food and other inhumane conditions, such as inadequate access to clean water and medical repair, reports of freezing conditions at the Prairie Land Detention Center during the war the winter storm last week.

2:14:18

Months ago, we heard from the Miami Herald that two-thirds of the detainees at the detention center and the Florida elevat Florida Everglades could not be located and no longer appeared on the ICE data pass database.

2:14:33

Since speaking only a week ago, we have learned of a measles outbreak at Dilly, a man brought to the hospital with multiple skull fractures where the ICE agents told the doctors he had run into a wall, a claim the doctors claims was not medically possible.

2:14:48

News that the administration is planning to build meant massive detention centers, not just in El Paso, but across the country.

2:15:00

That there are currently seven 73,000 people in detention centers, the most ever in history, even before these plans for mass expansion expansion of these centers.

2:15:06

Reports by El Paso Matters that the that the courts here in the Western Destrict has Texas have received more habeas petitions in January than in all of 2025 combined, itself a record-breaking year.

2:15:20

Meanwhile, at every turn, the administration has thought to undermine and abstract judicial review of any kind.

2:15:26

There's no working infrastructure to prevent abuse or correct injustice.

2:15:30

And so to build one of these is to be complicit in the abuse, complicit in the denial of the case.

2:15:34

Thank you.

2:15:36

Thank you.

2:15:37

Thank you.

2:15:37

We cannot be the next speaker is Keelen Salais.

2:15:44

Kylie or Keelen Salais, if you're in the queue, star six.

2:15:50

I don't see their phone number in the queue.

2:15:52

Angelette Terranson, if you're in the queue, star six.

2:15:59

Michaela de la Cruz, if you're in the queue, star six.

2:16:05

I don't see any of those phone numbers in the queue.

2:16:08

I do see Kevin Amescua.

2:16:11

Kevin Amascoa, star six, please to unmute your telephone.

2:16:15

Good morning.

2:16:16

You have three minutes.

2:16:18

Hi, everyone.

2:16:19

Um, my name is uh Kevin Amesquam, and I come here as a citizen and one of many whose family routes stretch out south of the border.

2:16:27

But these are uncertain times that have provoked terror in many of our communities, regardless of their documentation status in our country.

2:16:34

I believe that constructive conversations should always be centered in the authenticity of all parties.

2:16:39

So allow me to say that I believe that immigration is a human right and that no human is illegal on stolen land.

2:16:44

This is slow.

2:16:48

Good number of people believe this is the current issue to be for U.S.

2:16:53

citizens.

2:16:53

As such, I will attempt to put this in pragmatic terms.

2:16:57

These detention centers will be funded by us, the taxpayers.

2:17:00

We're told constantly that our tax money is a highly finite resource, causing social human services such as health care and housing to be limited.

2:17:07

We have also been told that these ICE arrests are being done in the name of public safety.

2:17:11

ICE has been ordered to go after the criminals, rapists, and thugs, this administration's words, who bring drugs and organized crime.

2:17:19

If this were the case, then why is it that these arrests target blue-collar workers, business owners, students, children, and many who are simply wishing to survive and pursued happiness?

2:17:28

Many news sources have reported on directives for ICE to focus on quantity over quality, allowing the construction of ICE detention centers, no matter the size, we're compliant with the administration who wishes to arrest people for inauthentic reasons.

2:17:40

We're complying with an anti-immigration ideologues like Stephen Miller with his history of promoting white nationalists' ideology, who want the American people to believe that this is about the safety of the public and its better interest.

2:17:51

Let's not forget Tom Homan, who has met with the associates of the Proud Boys on four separate occasions.

2:17:56

Regardless of your stance on immigration, I hope that you, our city representatives, will consider that these detention centers will not benefit taxpayers and use any power and influence you have to prevent brother facilities from opening in our area.

2:18:09

In terms of the county, the Secora water system is inadequate for living in the area.

2:18:14

For many living in that area.

2:18:15

Will they be expected to provide water and electricity for the building and maintenance of this facility that will detain 8,500 people?

2:18:21

The city of El Paso has recently had a water main break that has left many on northeastern central El Paso on a boil water nose or without water.

2:18:28

Despite this, El Paso has approved a rate hike for our water.

2:18:31

I believe that our utilities and taxes should benefit all El Pasoans and visitors to our beautiful city, and I hope our local leaders agree.

2:18:37

Building more detention centers will decrease our quality of life and make people wary of visiting El Paso.

2:18:42

We should say no to allowing the building of any immigration detention center, especially when it place a burden on the people's already strained resources.

2:18:50

All this for an anti-immigration agenda that endangers the lives of many who wish for a better life in this country.

2:18:55

If the rights of immigrants is not to be considered, when they should, then allow me to phrase it another way.

2:19:04

Thank you.

2:19:06

Thank you.

2:19:09

Mayor, that that's everyone that signed up to speak at 10 a.m.

2:19:12

We do have call to the public, or we have mass transit next, whichever you would like to continue.

2:19:21

Let's let's go with call to the public first.

2:19:22

Yes, sir.

2:19:23

We'll move on to call to the public.

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The El Paso City Council is a local government body charged with serving the citizens, and the meetings must be focused on the meeting at charge.

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The city council meetings are public meetings under the Texas Open Meetings Act.

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Public comment is an accommodation and not a requirement of city council.

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All persons in attendance are expected to display civility and decorum that is respectful to other persons without the use of insulting, profane threatening, or abusive language.

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Public comment will not be used for personal attacks, nor may any member of the public use this forum for political statements or campaigning.

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Please note that during call to the public, the city council may not deliberate or decide any subject that is not on the agenda.

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However, council may propose that a topic brought forward be posted on a future agenda.

2:20:05

This morning we have 17 members of the public that signed up to speak at this time.

2:20:33

Good morning.

2:20:35

Good morning, mayor and elected officials.

2:21:50

They always come to 3628 Wickham to buy their drugs at the end of the night, all hours of the night.

2:22:28

Nothing happened at all.

2:22:32

What is the next step, Mayor?

2:22:35

3628 Wickham caught on fire on the 10th of January.

2:22:41

Explosions, and it was very dangerous.

2:22:46

Firefighters and police officers told us that the house will be condemned.

2:22:54

No one will be allowed back.

2:23:17

These people haven't paid their property taxes for several years.

2:23:45

Police officers joke about it.

2:24:03

Do we want it to become the new devil's triangle in Northeast?

2:24:14

Do we want this neighborhood to be new crime place?

2:24:20

Do we want would you be okay to live next door to this?

2:24:28

I'm asking for help.

2:24:30

Please help with this matter.

2:24:33

We need your help, Mayor.

2:24:36

Thank you.

2:24:37

You're welcome.

2:24:38

Next speaker is Connie Ortega, and IT will need to use the wordly app if you'd like to follow along with a translation.

2:24:51

Buenos días, Miss Ortega.

2:24:54

Buenos días, representantes.

2:24:56

Este caso lo tenemos desde más de cinco años.

2:25:00

Estamos pidiendo ayuda.

2:26:00

Esperamos un anno para que se movian los carros.

2:26:38

Gracias.

2:26:39

Thank you.

2:26:40

Thank you.

2:26:41

The next speaker is Rocío Yanis.

2:26:45

Rosio Yanis.

2:26:50

Followed by Graciela Guzman.

2:26:53

Claudia Contreras Siller.

2:26:59

Okay.

2:27:01

Okay, we'll move on with um Graciela Guzman.

2:27:07

Yes.

2:27:08

Okay.

2:27:09

Good morning.

2:27:10

My name is Graciela Guzman.

2:27:12

I live behind that uh affected house.

2:27:16

And we have a neighborhood watch.

2:27:18

And that area is affecting our area now.

2:27:22

We had a neighbor.

2:27:24

They dump their trash, they collect it in uh Walmart bags, and they go throughout the neighborhood emptying out their trash.

2:27:32

They don't have facilities, so they defecate and everything in bags and they put them in bags and then they go spread them out throughout the neighborhood.

2:27:41

And then uh we have a park, so all these homeless are starting to go into our park.

2:27:46

They have rights, they have more rights than we do.

2:27:49

I've called your office three times.

2:27:52

We've never gotten any response.

2:27:54

So where do we go next?

2:27:56

Who's gonna help us?

2:27:58

Uh the these people have been living there for years with no electricity, no gas, no water.

2:28:03

Um you couldn't you know that it's a drug house.

2:28:06

Uh our power officer kinda helps us, but there is no help.

2:28:12

I go to another officer that will help us, and he directs us to other places.

2:28:18

But we do need help because it is spreading.

2:28:20

It's spreading, and we have kids in the neighborhood, lots of kids.

2:28:24

And um these people live in those abandoned cars, and we we have one of them that goes to different areas and parks, because he knows he could park at certain areas for a couple of times before law enforcement throws them out.

2:28:40

But this is an ongoing and it goes the drugs are there.

2:28:44

I mean, they they gotta see that.

2:28:47

And I know it takes time for law enforcement to uh get all the evidence that they need to get them out, but we need help with these people.

2:28:56

They've gotten they go into our cars, they try and get into our cars, they've gotten into our neighbors' backyards looking for stuff.

2:29:04

But by the time we call law enforcement, they're gone.

2:29:06

They're they're smart, they know what they're doing.

2:29:09

So if you could please help us soon, Mr.

2:29:12

Ace but Mr.

2:29:14

Acevedo.

2:29:14

Ms.

2:29:15

Guzman?

2:29:15

Yes, uh Steve Avarado, our code enforcement is gonna be in the back, he's gonna help you.

2:29:21

We've already spoken to you.

2:29:22

You spoke to him too.

2:29:23

Okay, represent Acevedo.

2:29:27

I just wanted to clarify a little bit.

2:29:28

Um we we did have meetings, a meeting at this house, and we've been trying to see what we can do.

2:29:34

It's a very complex situation.

2:29:36

So one of the things that we offered when we were there was to make a complaint with the city attorney's office.

2:29:42

And I'm not sure if that happened, but we'll continue to follow up on it.

2:29:46

Okay.

2:29:52

Okay, thank you, Representative Acevedo.

2:29:57

Her topic is animal cruelty, cats are victims.

2:30:00

She will be followed by Ron Como.

2:30:02

Good morning.

2:30:03

Even if you're not ready for the day, it cannot always be night.

2:30:07

Yesterday at night I was driving under the 375 and I saw a truck getting the pigeons.

2:30:16

I approached them and I asked, what do you do with them?

2:30:19

They said we sell them.

2:30:21

And I asked, To who?

2:30:22

Do they get killed?

2:30:24

They said, it's none of your business.

2:30:25

We're gonna call the police on you.

2:30:26

And I was like, no, I'm gonna call the police on you.

2:30:28

So uh these people are not regulated.

2:30:31

I have their information.

2:30:33

They're getting the pigeons.

2:30:34

I was in contact with one of the only persons that cares for wildlife, and she told me it is animal cruelty.

2:30:42

They're letting the babies behind to die as low uh death.

2:30:47

I drove by this morning, and there were dead pigeons, and I have their information.

2:30:53

They're not regulated.

2:30:54

If it's a business, if they're making money out of the pigeons, it has to be regulated.

2:30:59

They have to be uh with a license.

2:31:02

So I've been here a year exposing animal cruelty, and this is the first time I'm gonna show pictures.

2:31:07

This is a collage of four, I'm sorry, six cats in the freeway.

2:31:13

One I was able to uh trap and the other one ran away, the rest are dead.

2:31:19

Miss Hiller, you can put them on the It's because I don't have enough time.

2:31:23

Okay, sorry.

2:31:24

And then this one, it's a house cat.

2:31:27

He was fat and he was in the freeway.

2:31:30

Animal cruelty is happening in our eyes.

2:31:33

This cat was posted without eyes on social media.

2:31:37

No eyes, no tenia hojos.

2:31:39

Um this cat, this kitten I gave for adoption.

2:31:43

It was beheaded on the veterinarian on Litre Vino.

2:31:48

There was no records of this cat receiving like the test for rabies.

2:31:54

I spoke to the animal uh services director at the time.

2:31:57

He said there's no record of Misty picking up the head of this cat.

2:32:02

Sue them if you can.

2:32:04

I was dealing with a Satanist that picks up cats and dogs.

2:32:08

I couldn't do that.

2:32:09

So this is another uh screenshot of FITFAM.

2:32:13

A colony of cats was killed on the west side.

2:32:16

It was posted on FITFAM.

2:32:18

Please hire them to educate against animal cruelty.

2:32:21

This kitten was found in a bag of trash.

2:32:25

His arm was pulled off.

2:32:26

He was with his brothers and sisters at a trash can in Circle K.

2:32:31

Uh this cat was picked up and it was thrown all the way to horizon.

2:32:36

And this is the same street where the firefighter killed five cats and a dog.

2:32:41

Please Google it.

2:32:42

And this is animal services opening a bag with a dead cat inside.

2:32:47

And I think it was the dead, I'm sorry, the black cat that was stalling for me during October.

2:32:53

And let's get right, you know.

2:32:55

So uh please do something for the cats.

2:33:00

Uh they're picking up 30 dead cats a day.

2:33:03

Thank you, Nino, for your uh interest.

2:33:06

Thank you.

2:33:06

The next speaker is Rod Como, followed by Sandra Winston.

2:33:11

Mr.

2:33:11

Como's topic is exercising his constitutional rights to rescue 1983 animal services.

2:33:22

Yes, sir.

2:33:25

Good morning.

2:33:27

Morning.

2:33:28

How are we all doing today?

2:33:30

Another Tuesday.

2:33:34

Okay.

2:33:36

Let's start out with the difference between reaction or pro action.

2:33:42

Reaction is what you all did the other day by putting stricter laws on people after they have already attacked the community members.

2:33:52

Pro action in this case would be if you actually picked up the loose dogs and got to them before they attacked the citizens of El Paso.

2:34:01

Now that we got that straightened out, somebody on Cheek Cheek Chucopedia has accused Barber Knives trying to support euthanasia.

2:34:13

Let me explain.

2:34:14

23 to 25.

2:34:17

Compared to 2019 numbers, 1773 more euthanasia were done in city shelter.

2:34:25

The other thing you need to understand is for the first time in history in the animal welfare world, we've got a new term, environmental euthanasia, which means the strays that you're leaving on the streets are dying on the streets, which is another form of euthanasia.

2:34:41

So congratulations, who's actually killing more strays?

2:34:45

Who's actually advocating for killing more strays?

2:34:48

Not us.

2:34:50

Just the cheerleaders.

2:34:52

Now it's discussed.

2:34:53

13,914 less strays in 22 to 23 were picked up in the city of El Paso.

2:35:00

How many more strays did that create?

2:35:02

How many dead strays did that create?

2:35:05

Because you all don't want to pick up strays.

2:35:09

2102 less rescue polls in 203 to 25.

2:35:17

Yet somebody on Chicopedia said they have numerous rescue partners or had numerous rescue polls.

2:35:23

Well, obviously it wasn't as many as we had in 2019.

2:35:27

So we discussed community support.

2:35:31

If you look at these numbers, end count for 25, December 25 was 2907.

2:35:37

2019 was 1856.

2:35:40

Where was the community support in 2019?

2:35:44

Not 22 to 20 or 23 to 25.

2:35:47

The community is not supporting you.

2:35:50

The community's fed up.

2:35:54

What are we going to do?

2:35:55

I keep giving you guys information.

2:35:56

I'm giving you a piece of paper.

2:35:58

You can Google it.

2:35:59

What happens when you leave strays on the street?

2:36:03

Understand for the first time in history, first time in history, we have environmental euthanasia that had to come about because of people running the best friends Haw Sheltering Plan, which we've been on since 2020.

2:36:20

We have been trying to get you back on our no-kill plan, which is obviously more of a success than what you all are doing today.

2:36:28

Take notice, fix the shelter, get the proper director, and start picking up the strays and protecting the community members.

2:36:36

Thank you, Mr.

2:36:36

Homa.

2:36:37

We've reached the three minutes.

2:36:38

The next speaker is Sandra Winston.

2:36:41

Sandra Winston will be followed by Julio Ortiz.

2:36:44

Ms.

2:36:44

Winston's topic is enforcement of protective covenant of North Hills concerning roosters.

2:36:59

Yes, ma'am, go ahead.

2:37:01

Good morning.

2:37:03

Good morning.

2:37:04

It's almost afternoon, but I'll say good morning.

2:37:06

My name is Sandra Winston.

2:37:08

I live at 11171 Loma del Sol Drive in North Hills.

2:37:15

On October 10th of 2025, I first saw a rooster on the rock wall between my yard and my neighbor's yard.

2:37:21

And she lives at 11167 Loma del Sol.

2:37:25

And the next day I called animal control to the to the loose rooster and the crowing at 5 30 a.m.

2:37:31

And I have a small dog, and I was afraid that the rooster would fly into my yard and hurt my dog.

2:37:37

On October 13th, I spoke to Animal Control, and I was told that roosters were permitted, but they needed to be kept in a coop.

2:37:44

And so the next day the neighbor did install a coup.

2:37:48

And by the way, it's just one rooster, there's no chickens.

2:37:52

On October 15th, a friend sent me a copy of the Protective Covenant from North Hills from 1987, and I've given you a copy.

2:38:01

On page three, it says, no hog pens, stockyard pens, or chicken pens allowed, whether for profit or otherwise.

2:38:10

And on the list page, there's a photo of the rooster.

2:38:13

On October 17th, I talked to code enforcement, and I was referred back to animal control, and they didn't know anything about the protective covenant.

2:38:22

And I made several more noise complaints about the crowing at 5 30 a.m.

2:38:26

every day, but nothing uh resulted from these calls.

2:38:30

On October 28th, I contacted the office of Cynthia Trejo and sent a copy of the covenant to Elizabeth Masias, the legislative aide, and she did some checking, and she referred me to the North Hills Neighborhood Association.

2:38:45

On November 20th, I sent a copy of the covenant to Vanessa Betts, president of the North Hills Association.

2:38:50

She did some checking, um, really couldn't come up with an answer.

2:38:54

Um she wasn't sure if it was really still valid.

2:38:57

But actually, the covenant says that it's a valid for 40 years, which will be until 2027.

2:39:03

And so my question is is the protective covenant still valid, or does the city ordinance that permits roosters take precedence over the covenant?

2:39:16

Thank you.

2:39:17

The next speaker is Julio Ortiz.

2:39:23

Mr.

2:39:23

Ortiz's topic is designation and installation of two West El Paso parks, Paul Harvey and HT Ponsport has disc golf-friendly parks to promote health activity tourism and local business in West El Paso.

2:39:39

Good morning.

2:39:40

Good morning, Mayor Johnson, Council members and fellow constituents.

2:39:44

First of all, I commend your bladders for holding so long.

2:39:48

My name is Julio Ortiz.

2:39:50

I arise today representing our El Paso Disk Golf Community.

2:39:55

Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

2:39:56

I will be happy to answer any questions after my presentation.

2:40:00

I'm here to propose the installation and official designation of two existing city parks, Paul Harvey Park and HT Ponsford Park, both located in District 8 under Chris Canales and West El Paso, and we'd like to thank you for encouraging us to come up and uh empower us to come uh present here.

2:40:17

So uh these disc golf courses.

2:40:19

They would be using land that is already open, underutilized, and owned by the city.

2:40:24

Disc golf is similar to traditional golf, but instead of balls and clubs, we throw these plastic discs into metal baskets.

2:40:31

We want six baskets in in both parks.

2:40:34

That's it.

2:40:35

It's a sport that's free to play, accessible to all ages, and widely recognized for promoting physical activity, mental well-being, and community engagement.

2:40:44

Families, seniors, veterans, students, casual park users, all participate, often together.

2:40:50

One course serves hundreds of residents without ongoing staff or programming costs.

2:40:56

We presently have two courses in East El Paso, one in the Northeast.

2:40:59

But regrettably, there is no representation for disc golf in West El Paso.

2:41:03

From a city perspective, disc golf is one of the most cost-effective recreational investments available.

2:41:08

Installations costs are low compared to traditional sports facilities.

2:41:13

A full-size basketball or tennis court is upward of 120,000 dollars.

2:41:18

A half-court of basketball is 45,000.

2:41:21

Yet installing both of these proposed parks would cost about 14 to 15,000 for both of them.

2:41:28

On the high end, now maintenance is minimal.

2:41:31

There's no turf, no lighting, no fences, no reservation systems.

2:41:36

These courses coexist with walking paths and green space and do not prevent other park uses.

2:41:42

In fact, cities across the country report increased park usage and improved stewardship once the courses are installed.

2:41:48

Disc golf also brings measurable economic benefits.

2:41:52

Tournaments such as our annual ice bowl, which benefits El Pasoans fighting hunger.

2:41:57

Bring visitors who eat loc, they eat at local restaurants, they stay in hotels, they shop locally.

2:42:02

Many cities are now marketing disc golf courses as tourism assets.

2:42:07

Just as importantly, disc golf creates a self-organizing volunteer base.

2:42:11

Players routinely assist with litter pickup, signage upkeep, and course monitoring.

2:42:17

Because when people feel ownership, they take care of shared spaces.

2:42:21

Designating two parks allows for balanced use, skill progression, and reduce congestion.

2:42:27

One course can serve for beginners and families, while the other one can be more of an advanced layout.

2:42:34

Today I'm asking the city council to please consider authorizing a feasibility review or pilot and the city.

2:42:43

Thank you very much.

2:42:44

Thank you so much.

2:42:47

Also speaking on expanding disc golfing to West Side Parks.

2:42:53

Alan McGaughan.

2:42:59

Jesse Romero.

2:43:02

Mr.

2:43:02

Romero signed up to speak on El Paso tourism.

2:43:05

He will be followed by Wanda Helgeson.

2:43:09

Good morning.

2:43:10

Good morning.

2:43:10

Good morning.

2:43:12

Good morning, Mayor Johnson.

2:43:14

I'm here to talk about ask your question.

2:43:18

Does Dallas, what does Dallas have?

2:43:21

Green trees, nice ponds.

2:43:23

San Antonio, a little creek down the street, you know, middle, not compared to El Paso.

2:43:27

You've got uh Corpus Christi has got the ocean.

2:43:30

But what is El Paso have to offer?

2:43:33

Guess what?

2:43:33

One thing.

2:43:34

We've got a mountain.

2:43:35

And the mountain is good.

2:43:37

Because we've got uh first of all, San Hasino Plaza.

2:43:42

It was built in 1883.

2:43:45

It's the same size now as it was before.

2:43:48

That's a bit non-town.

2:43:49

Okay, they put alligators, it took the alligators to put a statue out there, which is good.

2:43:54

Not for tourism.

2:43:55

Then you've got uh Scenic Drive.

2:43:58

Those 1920.

2:44:00

Has done anything to it?

2:44:01

Not at all.

2:44:02

Is it a good tourist attraction?

2:44:03

At night it is, because you see beautiful lights, and the day is night because all you see are streets and rocks in El Paso.

2:44:10

There's nothing green in El Paso or not that much.

2:44:13

Okay.

2:44:14

What do we have?

2:44:14

Al Paso.

2:44:15

What is it on the mountain?

2:44:16

We have the aerial tramway.

2:44:20

But it's not working.

2:44:21

What have you done?

2:44:21

Have you done anything about it for the tourism department?

2:44:24

No, we haven't.

2:44:25

You've got Trans Mountain, which is nice.

2:44:28

Nobody except in um at Capitol, the only mountain in Texas other than El Paso.

2:44:33

We've got real mountains.

2:44:34

We don't have hills, we don't have anything.

2:44:36

All right.

2:44:37

Now, the biggest thing we have on the mountain is the star.

2:44:41

At night this stands out.

2:44:42

People see it, people recognize it.

2:44:44

We need to increase or we to develop our what we have to make it nicer, greener, beautiful.

2:44:51

So like tourists have.

2:44:52

We have a lot of people coming from Mexico who cross.

2:44:55

Would it be nice to make them tourists to come in here and do our you know watch everything we have?

2:45:00

We can.

2:45:01

But apparently ask people what they do in El Paso, and they say we don't know.

2:45:06

They don't know.

2:45:07

It's boring.

2:45:07

El Paso is boring.

2:45:08

And basically, we have more in El Paso than San Antonio does and Dallas does, and Houston does.

2:45:14

Okay, Houston has NASA and a couple of couple of things, but nevertheless, we have a lot of things.

2:45:17

I see El Paso as a diamond rough.

2:45:19

We're still there, we're still growing.

2:45:21

We can improve it, we can make it better.

2:45:23

Now, how are we gonna do it?

2:45:24

We need to develop it.

2:45:26

True.

2:45:28

So I need your help and help in that.

2:45:30

All right.

2:45:31

Thank you.

2:45:31

Have a good day.

2:45:32

And it was not anyway.

2:45:34

I was born in Mexico, what is raised in Denargo, came in El Paso, American citizen.

2:45:39

I'm here legally.

2:45:40

And I was Navy, U.S.

2:45:42

Navy.

2:45:42

Thank you.

2:45:43

Thank you, sir.

2:45:44

The next speaker is Wanda Helgeson.

2:45:46

Ms.

2:45:47

Halgison's topic is water main disruption.

2:45:50

She will be followed by Eddie Chavez Jr.

2:45:53

Good morning.

2:45:54

Good morning.

2:45:55

Good morning.

2:45:55

It is still morning.

2:45:57

Sorry.

2:45:58

Um, Mr.

2:45:59

Mayor Council members, my name is Wanda Helgison.

2:46:02

I'm the executive director of Border Rack.

2:46:04

We're a nonprofit organization that serves to coordinate emergency health care and disaster preparedness for our health care providers.

2:46:12

While we're typically behind the scenes day to day, I do feel certain that our hospitals and our EMS agencies would attest to our contributions to the regional coordination of time-sensitive emergency events and our commitment to the community, the emergency health care system and disaster preparedness.

2:46:30

January 11th, we were notified of a water main lake in Northeast El Paso.

2:46:35

We immediately sent information via EM resource, a tool we used to communicate with our health care entities in everyday situations, such as mass casualty incidents or when situations arise that affect our health care operations.

2:46:50

Border Rack staff activated the regional medical operations center within the EOC to begin communicating with our health care entities.

2:46:58

That included making personal phone calls to every hospital, freestanding emergency department, urgent care center, nursing home, and assisted living facility in the affected area, and we expanded that outreach to additional facilities as the scope of the incident increased.

2:47:15

In determining their needs, we collected information about their status, available water, and anticipated needs over the next several days.

2:47:25

We gathered that information regarding the number of patients or residents and staff and calculated the amount of water they would need for every 24 hour period.

2:47:35

We arranged water delivery to some and personally delivered water to some long-term care facilities, unloading pallets of water on site for them.

2:47:45

We continued these queries and support for the following four days.

2:47:50

In addition, we coordinated West Texas Medical Reserve Court volunteers to join with the Department of Public Health and American Red Cross and Police Department volunteers to deliver water directly to individuals registered in the steer registry.

2:48:05

I've told you that we work behind the scenes, and I would like an opportunity to recognize the work and introduce our group to you.

2:48:12

We have Brian Olsen, Peggy Jaime, Vanessa Bandetis, Zion Zait, Susan Sharp, and Rafael Garcia.

2:48:21

Thank you for the opportunity to recognize them and to publicly thank them for their hard work.

2:48:26

And Wanda, I want to add my thanks to the border rack as well.

2:48:30

During the water break, I was in the emergency operations center and had an opportunity to work alongside of some of your members there.

2:48:37

And you guys did a heck of a job.

2:48:41

So thank you for all that you do for the community.

2:48:43

And you were working behind the scenes, but you did a lot of work that day.

2:48:46

So thank you guys.

2:48:47

I appreciate that.

2:48:48

Thanks very much.

2:48:49

The next speaker is Eddie Chavez Jr.

2:48:54

He will be followed by Gordon Thatcher, Anaba Yanueva, and Victor Ramirez.

2:48:59

Mr.

2:48:59

Chavez's topic is city spending.

2:49:02

Good morning.

2:49:03

Good morning.

2:49:04

I'm gonna change now that I met all these people and what they started talking about.

2:49:08

Immigration, I don't know, these young people know that Border Patrol started in El Paso.

2:49:13

And that was because now that I've been doing a lot of history uh reading for Mount Crystal Ray, which I was a president up there for 12 years.

2:49:22

Um they the immigrants, the Chinese immigrants that were making the railroad, they were dropped off here in El Paso to cross to Mexico.

2:49:29

I don't know if we all knew that.

2:49:31

You know, think about being uh treated cruelty.

2:49:35

Come from a nation overseas, then they come and get you and they throw you on the Mexican side.

2:49:40

How do you think they feel?

2:49:42

But you know that rules that have to be made are made to be followed.

2:49:46

When I was in construction, I did a lot of uh big companies uh projects, like I don't know if you all know about uh King's Hill apartments.

2:50:00

And we used to hide them in the in the cabinets, and then we started hiding them on the on the roof and everything.

2:50:05

So by the time immigration went up there, there was nobody around.

2:50:08

So they had to go back down.

2:50:09

Well, that happened about several times when they went up there.

2:50:12

And then they came with a plane and they caught us.

2:50:15

So my favorite another week.

2:50:16

We had a drainage dish in the back side of it.

2:50:19

Uh probably about a football field long.

2:50:22

We used to hide them in there for a while.

2:50:25

But I tried helping immigration.

2:50:27

But the thing is, you know, rules are made because they're made for a reason.

2:50:31

You know, even God made the Ten Commandments for us to follow them, which we don't do it.

2:50:35

But anyways, um I had a big script I was gonna write on something else, but since I saw this that's going on.

2:50:42

Last Tuesday, I went up to Mount Cristo Ray because they were dynamiting up there.

2:50:47

They're making a fence.

2:50:48

I want the fence.

2:50:49

I've been fighting for the fence with a diocese since 1980.

2:50:52

I uh we had a Tonhaw meeting at the race, and I I thought it was gonna be excommunicated with Bishop uh Ramirez.

2:51:01

I was going against we wanted to put the fence up, and he did not want it.

2:51:04

And it does and the respect to the diocese, that's why they haven't built it there.

2:51:09

But now the boss, you know who decided they're gonna make it regardless.

2:51:14

So but we do need it because there's a lot of thefts up there.

2:51:17

I don't know if anybody's been up there, but you know, you don't know who's hiding out there, but you go and look on the other side of the m uh of uh uh uh the border, you see there's houses there, there's no stores.

2:51:28

This house is made out of cardboard.

2:51:30

You know, we've had little kids with uh screwdriver, ten years old, go and rob people up there.

2:51:34

Why?

2:51:35

Because hunger is desperate, makes you do the do things that you don't want to do.

2:51:40

But I would like to just say you guys, like I said, God put you here for a reason.

2:51:47

So let's do it for the people.

2:51:48

Remember what you promised you would be for us.

2:51:51

Okay, God bless you all.

2:51:53

Take care, huh?

2:51:54

Thank you.

2:51:54

Love you all.

2:51:55

The next speaker is Gordon Thatcher.

2:52:00

Gordon Thatcher.

2:52:09

Virtor Ramirez.

2:52:21

Crawford's topic is Black History Month and Abortion.

2:52:25

Miss Crawford, star six, please.

2:52:28

Good afternoon.

2:52:28

You have three minutes.

2:52:33

Thank you so much.

2:52:35

I I appreciate the opportunity to speak.

2:52:37

I'm just gonna briefly um say something.

2:52:41

Um we know that mankind is created in the image of God for the glory of God.

2:52:47

You know that God is the one who creates life in the womb.

2:52:50

This promise said spoke about God, forming him in his mother's womb, said he's fearfully and wonderfully made, and for that reason he worships God.

2:53:01

Um I I've been listening to some of the comments.

2:53:05

Um, I have to say that probably even though um in terms of many issues, we might be on different sides of the aisle, maybe for the first time in my life.

2:53:18

I can I could say that some of us could maybe have a little bit of understanding.

2:53:23

I heard the the comments about standing on the other side of the wall and imagining what's going on in in terms of the migrant facilities.

2:53:31

I I would just submit to you all that that is how how we feel when we stand outside the abortion center, and we know the babies are being slaughtered inside um inside of those those walls, um, in honor of Black History Month and the following month being uh women's history month.

2:53:50

I just want to uh briefly share um uh a woman who came into my life and exited my life very quickly in Louisville, Kentucky.

2:54:00

Miss Christ, she was an elderly lady from the B South from Alabama.

2:54:05

She did not let the color of our skin from her from hanging out with us.

2:54:11

So even the most of us are white, she she chose to hang out with us.

2:54:14

She was very kind to me when I first got to Louisville, helped me to settle in there.

2:54:20

Um, just showed many kindnesses there.

2:54:22

The image is always so stick in my mind.

2:54:24

It's Miss Christ uh dancing on the sidewalk outside the EMW Surgical Abortion Center in Louisville, Kentucky, dancing on the sidewalk, singing him to Jesus and saying, in the name of Jesus, God is finished at this place down.

2:54:39

That image is permanently stuck in my mind.

2:54:42

Praise God, God did shut down the EMW surgical abortion center.

2:54:46

I recently had the privilege of going back to Louisville.

2:54:50

Um the the building is now staying for destruction for a high-rise um hotel to be there.

2:55:00

Um, and I I will always remember um Miss Price just singing gospel songs and phrasing the Lord Jesus Christ um in anticipation of of what he was going to do.

2:55:09

I I will probably never see her again in this life.

2:55:12

I've got the contact information, but I I hope to one day be able to hug and celebrate um together what what God has done.

2:55:21

Abortion does specifically target minority communities.

2:55:25

We'd be over and over again, be it the black community, be it in the Hispanic community, the abortion center are strategically placed.

2:55:34

Thank you, Ms.

2:55:34

Crawford.

2:55:35

Thank you, ma'am.

2:55:36

You've reached the three minutes.

2:55:38

Patricia Osman also signed up.

2:55:40

Patricia Osmond.

2:55:43

Her topic is U.S.

2:55:44

Constitution rights for all persons in the United States.

2:55:48

Good afternoon.

2:55:48

You have three minutes.

2:55:50

So let me take down my mask, as maybe y'all should do an ordinance requiring all of ICE to do.

2:55:59

Because there are things that you can do.

2:56:02

I spoke here two weeks ago in regards to First Amendment, second amendment, fourth amendment, fourteenth amendment rights.

2:56:12

There's also the due process.

2:56:16

All of this are constitutional rights.

2:56:19

It's very fitting.

2:56:20

We're also celebrating Black History Month.

2:56:25

I don't know about any of you, but I have visited civil rights museums.

2:56:37

The sit-in counter that Woolworths.

2:56:50

That represented the place of lynchings across this country.

2:56:55

But let us not forget locally, because that civil rights center, it's not just people of one color.

2:57:06

They emphasize it's people of all color.

2:57:09

Okay.

2:57:11

Let's not forget locally.

2:57:13

Aside from Mexican reparation, uh repatriation, interment camps, operation, what y'all don't like to hear.

2:57:25

We also had La Matanza, which were Texans hunting down Hispanics and lynching them as well.

2:57:35

Now I am old enough that my mom's oldest brother would tell stories to us about how proud he was.

2:57:43

He was older than the state of New Mexico, and how he would go into bars with his now wife and be thrown out because they didn't allow Mexicans and Indians.

2:57:56

I would suggest everybody who supports our law enforcement here in town, locally, nationally, whether that be ICE or Border Patrol, please read the U.S.

2:58:11

Constitution.

2:58:13

Very carefully, the First Amendment, freedom of press, freedom to protest.

2:58:22

Y'all practice freedom of religion.

2:58:24

That's also freedom from religion.

2:58:26

That there's a lot.

2:58:27

You know what?

2:58:28

I am fine with everybody else's rights, but what I require from my local government is that you make sure everybody's rights are enforced.

2:58:40

The First Amendment, Fourth Amendment.

2:58:44

No search and seizure, seizure of person, not just home.

2:58:52

Yes, Fitfam shows ice going out to construction sites.

2:58:58

They're in our neighborhoods.

2:58:59

And most of us here are the other.

2:59:06

Thank you.

2:59:06

Thank you.

2:59:07

Mayor, I've called everyone that's came up to speak for call to the public this morning.

2:59:11

Ms.

2:59:11

Prime, let's convene the mass transit meeting, please.

2:59:13

Yes, council.

2:59:14

Is there a motion to recess the regular city council meeting?

2:59:17

There's a motion and a second to recess the city council meeting.

2:59:20

All in favor?

2:59:21

Aye.

2:59:21

Anyone opposed?

2:59:23

And the city council meeting is in recess at 1210 p.m.

2:59:27

in order to conduct the mass transit department board meeting.

2:59:29

Third at 1214 p.m.

2:59:31

Thank you.

2:59:32

Okay, Miss Bryan, let's call the regular board meeting to order.

2:59:36

Yes, sir.

2:59:36

Is there a motion to reconvene?

2:59:38

Second.

2:59:39

There's a motion and a second to reconvene.

2:59:41

The regular city council meeting.

2:59:42

All in favor?

2:59:43

Aye.

2:59:44

Anyone opposed?

2:59:46

The meeting is back in session at 1214 p.m.

2:59:49

That brings us to the consent agenda.

2:59:53

All matters listed under the consent agenda will be considered by city council to be routine and will be enacted by one motion unless separate discussion is requested by council members.

3:00:02

Prior to the vote, members of the audience may ask questions regarding items on the consent agenda.

3:00:07

When the vote has been taken, if an item has not been called out for separate discussion, the item has been approved.

3:00:12

Council may, however, reconsider any item at any time during the meeting.

3:00:17

Mayor Pro Tem.

3:00:18

Thank you, Ms.

3:00:19

Prine.

3:00:20

I make a motion to approve the consent agenda with the following revisions.

3:00:24

Page three, item two, revised per representative Boyart Trejo.

3:00:30

And that revision is to read the request to excuse Representative Borietre Hope from today's meeting.

3:00:36

Page three, item four, revise per fire department.

3:00:41

And that revision is to strike out the words public safety and replace with office of the governor.

3:00:49

Page four, item nine, move to the regular agenda per representative Acevedo.

3:00:55

Page six, item 16, delete per representative Fierro.

3:01:03

Page six item 19, move to the regular agenda for representative Acevedo.

3:01:12

Page 10.

3:01:17

Revise per representative Niño.

3:01:20

And that revision is to strike out the number 60 and replace with 90.

3:01:26

Page 10.

3:01:28

Item 35 delete per representative Boyart Trejo.

3:01:34

Page 10.

3:01:35

Item 36.

3:01:37

Delete per Representative Boyar Trejo.

3:01:41

Page 17, item 53.

3:01:45

Take item at 4 p.m.

3:01:47

per municipal court.

3:01:57

Representative Lumon.

3:01:59

Yes.

3:02:00

Do we have a second moment?

3:02:02

No, he has no second.

3:02:04

No second or no seconds.

3:02:05

All right, Miss Bryan.

3:02:06

I believe we have public comment on some of the items.

3:02:09

Yes, we do have public comment on item number three.

3:02:15

Good, Representative Lamont.

3:02:18

I'm sorry.

3:02:19

Mayor, I I wish to re uh request items 50 and 51 moved up to the forefront in the meeting, please.

3:02:30

Okay.

3:02:34

50 and 51.

3:02:37

Okay.

3:02:38

And take them together, I think.

3:02:40

Okay.

3:02:42

Okay.

3:02:42

Mayor, may I call the speakers on the consent agenda items?

3:02:46

Yes, please.

3:02:46

Okay.

3:02:47

We have Christopher Bailey that signed up to speak for item three.

3:02:52

Christopher Bailey.

3:02:56

Signed up to speak on item three.

3:02:58

Patricia Osman signed up for item 10.

3:03:01

Okay.

3:03:02

Um our person told me that 10 and 11 were being deleted earlier.

3:03:09

No, ma'am.

3:03:13

Would you like to speak on items 10 and 11 at this time?

3:03:15

Oh, if you're still going to have it.

3:03:17

Yes, it's still on the consent agenda.

3:03:20

Item 10 is a resolution authorizing the city manager to sign a memorandum of understanding with El Paso Electric Company, Al Paso Community Action Program Project Bravo, and for the sole use of low-income assistance funds contemplated in section 1.24 of the franchise amendment ordinance for the installation of cool roofs for low-income homes within El Paso City limits.

3:03:44

And item 11 is a resolution authorizing the city manager to sign a sub recipient agreement between the city of El Paso and Solar United Neighbors to provide solo photo voltaic installations.

3:04:00

So first, maybe you need to speak to your PR person, or maybe that's a civil rights issue that she was trying to tell me that 10 and 11 were deleted from the agenda.

3:04:13

But as you all know, I sent you all emails, some of you too, in regards to Project Bravo in their contractor, who now goes under the name of White Buffalo.

3:04:30

Same owner, Jeremy Safuentes, same address off a dire.

3:04:34

Previous company was high rich.

3:04:37

Yet you all want to hand nearly a million dollars to that same contractor through a bypass.

3:04:43

Seems more like a loophole because that same contractor was receiving contracts as a vendor through the city of El Paso.

3:04:51

Same owner, operator, same address.

3:04:54

And then there was a lawsuit because your employees were giving him contracts that didn't go through city council.

3:05:01

So there was under the table.

3:05:03

That same contractor, I do because my entire place is camered up with video and audio, had their employees talking city inspectors, about money under the table for inspections.

3:05:24

Told me that they needed to do things to the to my house.

3:05:28

Now, mind you, they did work to my house under Project Bravo, and they ruined they drilled into my roof, which led to years of damage that they didn't fix.

3:05:40

Jeremy Sofuentes was stating, oh, you got it free.

3:05:45

Now my mistake that somebody suggested that I go and I apply and get that because a five to seven hundred dollar AC cost me thousands of damage to my home.

3:06:01

Project Bravo didn't actually fix anything.

3:06:05

In fact, that contractor, during the time they were recently in my house because Project Bravo said that they would fix it under weatherization.

3:06:13

That same contractor used to work for El Paso as a vendor doing weatherization, made more damage.

3:06:20

They didn't fix everything.

3:06:22

And that's who you all want to, because you know what?

3:06:25

Federal contractors, even subcontractors are supposed to have a background check.

3:06:30

So just because you're going to do a bypass through Project Bravo, your employees full well know who the money is going to go to.

3:06:39

Because Project Bravo doesn't do their contracting.

3:06:42

They have White Buffalo, and during the time they were at my house, switched from high ridge to White Buffalo.

3:06:49

Same owner operator, lots of lawsuits.

3:06:52

Y'all are fully aware.

3:06:54

So the fraudulent nature of that, perhaps the AG needs to find out.

3:06:59

Maybe social media messages to find out.

3:07:02

You have reached the three minutes.

3:07:04

That concludes public comment on consent agenda items.

3:07:08

Okay.

3:07:08

Is there any other discussion on the consent agenda, Council?

3:07:13

Okay.

3:07:14

Ms.

3:07:14

Brian, call for the vote, please.

3:07:15

Yes, sir.

3:07:16

The motion was made by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, seconded by Representative Acevedo, and this is to approve the consent agenda as revised on that motion.

3:07:24

Call for the vote.

3:07:35

And the voting session?

3:07:36

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:07:39

Mayor, may we take the items I would move to regular?

3:07:42

Yeah, was that four nineteen, fifty, and fifty-one?

3:07:44

No, it was nine and nineteen.

3:07:47

Fifty and fifty-one, yes.

3:07:49

Well, 50 and 51 were moved to the forefront, but per the rules of order, those come after the public hearing.

3:07:54

Sure.

3:07:54

Okay.

3:07:55

So item number nine is a resolution that the city manager or designee be authorized to execute a public highway at grade crossing agreement between the city of Al Paso and Union Pacific Railroad Company, granting the city the right to reconstruct and maintain the road crossing over North Piedras Street at railroads, mileposts 967.35 on railroads, Carrizozo Subdivision in El Paso, as consideration for granting of said right, the city shall pay the railroad $20,250.

3:08:27

Representative Savedo.

3:08:29

Thank you, Mayor.

3:08:30

Hi Joaquin.

3:08:32

I think this is uh a great project, and we really need to do it.

3:08:36

Uh more questioning what maintenance means.

3:08:39

Does that mean that if there's weed or weeds or trash in that area, the city is gonna be responsible for that and not union Pacific?

3:08:47

No, so the the project uh Joaquin literally guess with capital improvements.

3:08:50

The project installs new sidewalks along either side of that uh at grade crossing.

3:08:56

So the maintenance refers specifically to what's being installed as part of this project by TechStot.

3:09:03

Okay, sidewalks.

3:09:04

I think there's a hand railing on one side and then some striping infrastructure as well.

3:09:08

So that's the only thing that the city would be maintaining.

3:09:11

Yes, we wouldn't be maintaining.

3:09:12

General cleanliness or you know, weeds along uh the Union Pacific right of way.

3:09:17

And that would be on Union Pacific.

3:09:19

Correct.

3:09:20

Okay.

3:09:21

Just asking because of the dire situation where we have the the BRIO where we believe that it's Union Pacific that needs to maintain it, they're not maintaining it.

3:09:31

So I don't want to create another situation here.

3:09:33

And that's why I was asking this clarified question.

3:09:35

No, no, the this maintenance obligation would be specific to the infrastructure that's associated with this project.

3:09:41

Okay.

3:09:42

I appreciate it.

3:09:42

Thank you.

3:09:43

Yes, sir.

3:09:43

Move to approve.

3:09:44

Okay.

3:09:44

Second.

3:09:45

There's a motion and a second to approve this item.

3:09:47

Number nine.

3:09:48

Ms.

3:09:48

Prime, would you call for the vote?

3:09:50

Yes, sir.

3:09:51

The motion was made by Representative Acevedo, seconded by Representative Canales.

3:09:55

This is to approve the resolution on item nine.

3:10:00

Call for the vote.

3:10:05

In the voting session.

3:10:07

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:10:10

Okay, this take item number 19, please.

3:10:12

Yes.

3:10:12

Item number 19 is a request that the director of purchasing and strategic sourcing be authorized to issue purchase orders to increase contract 2021-1071.

3:10:23

Parsillator control to Delta and Limited LLC, DBA Delta Pest Control and Lawn Services.

3:10:28

That change order will increase reference contract by $923,211 for a total estimated amount not to exceed $4 million $4,866,056.

3:10:40

And we'll increase the contract capacit capacity to cover services of trash removal at citywide parks and special events through the expiration of the contract in July 2026.

3:10:51

And Representative Massavedo, can I get a motion to approve so we can have discussion first?

3:10:55

Yes, I don't know about the Well, anyone want to make a motion to approve it.

3:11:00

Is there okay?

3:11:02

Representative Acevedo.

3:11:04

Thank you, Mayor.

3:11:05

Um this, I was kind of looking at the backup and there there were a few questions that I had.

3:11:11

Why is the amount so large?

3:11:13

It's almost a million dollars in this change order.

3:11:16

So did things go up?

3:11:19

There's not a real clear explanation in the backup.

3:11:21

Hi, good afternoon, Paula Salas with purchasing and strategic sourcing.

3:11:26

So this is the percentage taken from the total amount of the contract.

3:11:31

So it was a four point I'm sorry, a 3.8 million for the initial contract for the total years.

3:11:40

So that's why it we're just adding capacity before it it it ends before the contract ends.

3:11:47

There's no increase in in unit prices or anything.

3:11:50

It remains the same.

3:11:52

It's just a percentage that it's allowed by state law up to the 25%.

3:11:57

Okay, so how long was this contract?

3:11:59

I'm sorry?

3:11:59

How long was this contract?

3:12:01

It's a three-year contract with a two-year option to extend.

3:12:05

Okay, so then the three years end in July.

3:12:08

No, that was that's at the end the we're currently under the two-year option.

3:12:15

Okay.

3:12:15

So is this an extension?

3:12:17

Uh we already did a month to month, up to six months.

3:12:20

Okay.

3:12:21

Yes.

3:12:21

And so that's why it's down to $900,000.

3:12:25

Right.

3:12:25

And then when you say increased capacity, is this just to extend the contract, or you're going to be able to do more in terms of trash pickup?

3:12:34

I will defer that to the department.

3:12:43

Good afternoon, Mayor and City Council Reps and Miguel Gonzalez, Assistant Director for Parks and Recreation.

3:12:49

We're looking for the extension uh on this contract to be able to handle a six-month extension with the possible additional six-month extension to put a new contract in place.

3:13:00

Uh the new contract in place has some modifications that build some of the cost figures that we have now and and our run rate into that contract to follow.

3:13:10

Okay, so this is just to kind of keep you going for now, and then you want to do a better contract about a year from now, but then procurement is gonna take six to nine months to go to do to get through that process.

3:13:23

Um, and we will use this funding to bridge until we get that new contract in place.

3:13:29

And it's usually this much money.

3:13:31

Um it's significant amount of money in this case.

3:13:34

The the additional um capacity we're asking for is driven by two things.

3:13:40

Um is we have extended coverage for existing and planned events that could take months of run-up.

3:13:47

Um, an example would be the uh ball drop on New Year's uh Eve at San Asinto as an additional event that costs additional funding.

3:13:56

If we take a typical monthly cost of 55,000, um Winterfest alone will cover that much and more, depending on the turnout of the event.

3:14:05

So that's something that we can look forward to and plan on a regular basis.

3:14:09

Uh we also get calls where uh tournaments, for example, will exceed expectation and the routine service that we have booked for as part of the 55,000 service that we have budgeted for.

3:14:22

Um there's more turnout, there's more trash as a result.

3:14:25

We authorize additional expense and we carry that into the um coming year as a projection, but for the existing contract, that gets us beyond capacity.

3:14:36

Okay.

3:14:36

And have you already started the process for the next contract that you want to do in about a year?

3:14:41

We have, yes.

3:14:42

Okay.

3:14:42

All right, thank you so much.

3:14:43

Certainly.

3:14:44

Representative?

3:14:45

Thank you, Mayor.

3:14:46

I think maybe for this meeting in particular, there's a lot of uh new eyeballs on the city council meeting.

3:14:52

So maybe just to explain as clearly as possible, when we approve this type of contract, it's typically for a certain defined length of time and also a certain maximum amount of money.

3:15:03

And so in this case, um, and and as the contract goes on, uh we only pay for the services that are actually used.

3:15:13

And so uh in this case, we've exhausted the or reached, I guess, the maximum amount of money, exhausted the capacity as we call it on the contract before the amount of time has expired.

3:15:24

And so uh the department is asking for additional funds within the same contract.

3:15:29

We're paying the same amount, you know, per per unit of services that we receive.

3:15:35

It's just additional money within the same amount of time to be able to get us through to the end of the contract.

3:15:40

Hope that explains for anybody watching uh to cons, you know, this uh change order is the type of thing that we uh have to consider here.

3:15:48

Um as was explained, there is a maximum that we're allowed to increase the capacity per state law, and that's what they're asking us to do today.

3:15:55

Thanks, Mayor.

3:15:56

All right, thank you.

3:15:57

Any other discussion on item number 19?

3:16:01

All right, hearing now, Ms.

3:16:02

Prime, call for the vote, please.

3:16:03

Yes, sir.

3:16:04

The motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative Maldonado Rocha, and this is to approve item 19 on that motion, call for the vote in the voting session.

3:16:16

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:16:21

The first reading of ordinances are items 20 to 23.

3:16:26

Mayor, I make a motion to move on the first reading of the ordinances.

3:16:31

Okay.

3:16:31

There's a motion and a second.

3:16:33

Any discussion on well, Ms.

3:16:35

Prime, call for the vote on this one?

3:16:37

Yes, sir.

3:16:37

There's a motion made by Representative Limon, seconded by Representative Canales, and this is to approve the first reading of ordinances on that motion.

3:16:45

Call for the vote.

3:16:49

And the voting session.

3:16:51

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:16:53

Okay.

3:16:54

I believe we are on items 50 and 51 now.

3:16:56

We have public hearings first.

3:16:58

That's right.

3:16:59

I can item number 24.

3:17:02

And this is a public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the conveyance of real property owned by the City of Al Paso to Don Luciano or assigns for the purchase price of 483,142.68 cents.

3:17:15

Such property known and numbered as 1926 Bassett Avenue.

3:17:20

Okay.

3:17:20

Is there a motion to approve this item?

3:17:22

Is there a second?

3:17:23

Mary Lou, how are you doing?

3:17:25

Good and yourself?

3:17:26

Good.

3:17:26

Can we see your presentation, please?

3:17:27

Absolutely.

3:17:29

Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

3:17:30

Mary Louis Pinoza with the real estate division for the record.

3:17:41

Okay, so this item is for the property sale agreement for 1926 Bassett.

3:17:49

This item was brought to council in May of 2025.

3:17:52

It was vetted as a surplus property and approved for listing, and it was listed in accordance with the Texas local government code, section 253.014.

3:18:01

The property was marketed via a broker and listed for at least 30 days on a multi-listing service.

3:18:08

The property is.23 acres, light manufactured zoning.

3:18:12

It was listed on September 16th of 2025.

3:18:15

The proposed buyer is Don Luciano and a signs.

3:18:18

The appraised value for this property was 480,000, which was appraised in August of 2025.

3:18:25

The purchase price for the property was for 483,142 and 68 cents plus closing costs.

3:18:34

We had received one offer, and we're recommending that we sell the property to the highest offer.

3:18:41

Okay, is there any more discussion on this particular item number 24?

3:18:46

May ask questions.

3:18:47

Sure.

3:18:47

Representative Nino.

3:18:48

Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Mary Lou, for always briefing us and meeting with all of us to talk about these items that are coming forward.

3:18:54

Quick question for you.

3:18:55

Once this property is sold, where does the funding go to?

3:19:00

It goes to the Capital Assets Fund.

3:19:02

Okay.

3:19:02

And what can that capital assets fund be used?

3:19:04

I don't know if that's a question for Ms.

3:19:05

Mack.

3:19:07

Or Robert?

3:19:08

Just for, you know, I know we've talked about this, but just so that the community and the public could know a little bit about it.

3:19:14

Good afternoon, Robert Cortina.

3:19:16

So those funds as per the city charter can only be used for capital asset acquisition or to retire debt.

3:19:21

So it can go into the debt service fund to retire city debt.

3:19:24

Perfect.

3:19:24

No further questions.

3:19:25

I just wanted to make that clarification for the mayor.

3:19:27

Thank you.

3:19:28

Any further discussion on item 24?

3:19:30

Okay.

3:19:31

Ms.

3:19:31

Prime, call for the vote, please.

3:19:33

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative Maldonado Rocha, and this is to adopt the ordinance on item 24 on that motion.

3:19:42

Call for the vote.

3:19:45

In the voting session.

3:19:47

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:19:50

Okay, let's take item number 25.

3:19:51

Item 25 is a public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the conveyance of real property owned by the City of El Paso to Romedi Ventures LLC for the purchase price of 1,530,000.

3:20:03

Such real property described as lot E and a portion of lot F, Block 15, Mills Map Edition.

3:20:09

Okay, is there a motion to approve this item?

3:20:10

Move to approve.

3:20:12

Okay.

3:20:12

Hi, Mayor Lou.

3:20:13

Can we see your presentation, please?

3:20:15

Absolutely.

3:20:15

Mary Louis Spinoza again with the real estate division for the record.

3:20:19

This property was also vetted by council in September of 2025 as a surplus property and was also listed in accordance with the Texas Local Government Code Section 253.014.

3:20:31

Property was marketed via the broker and listed for 30 days on a multi-listing platform.

3:20:37

The property is.45 acres, zone C4 commercial.

3:20:40

It was listed on October 8th, 2025.

3:20:43

The proposed buyer is Romnetty Ventures LLC.

3:20:47

The appraised value for the property was 400,000.

3:20:51

It was appraised in October of 2025.

3:20:54

The purchase price is $1,530,000 plus closing cost.

3:20:59

We received a total of 11 offers, and we recommend selling the property to the highest offer.

3:21:06

Okay.

3:21:08

Any discussion from Ms.

3:21:10

Prime, believe we have public comment on this item.

3:21:12

Yes, Mayor, we do.

3:21:13

We have three people that signed up to speak.

3:21:15

We have Sergio Tinajero, followed by Michael Luciano and Tyler Leon.

3:21:21

Good afternoon.

3:21:22

Good afternoon, Ms.

3:21:22

Mayor.

3:21:23

Uh uh members.

3:21:24

Uh no, there's not going to be an public meeting.

3:21:26

I don't think anyone is supposed to, so there's no need for us to talk.

3:21:28

Okay.

3:21:29

Okay.

3:21:29

Appreciate it.

3:21:29

You got the setting up.

3:21:34

Anyone else, Ms.

3:21:35

Prime?

3:21:35

We have uh Michael Luciano.

3:21:38

Uh they're not here.

3:21:39

Neither one.

3:21:40

Or Tyler Lyon.

3:21:41

Thank you.

3:21:42

Okay.

3:21:42

All right, Ms.

3:21:43

Prime, we have a motion and a second on item 25, please call for the vote.

3:21:47

Yes, sir.

3:21:47

The motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative Maldonado Rocha to adopt the ordinance on item 25.

3:21:54

On that motion, call for the vote.

3:22:01

In the voting session.

3:22:03

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:22:05

Okay, let's take item number 26, please.

3:22:08

Item 26 is a public hearing of an ordinance authorizing the conveyance of real property owned by the city of El Paso to Jesus Martin Lara and Lorena Villar for the purchase price of $1,608.

3:22:19

Such property known and numbered as $212 Dolan.

3:22:27

Second.

3:22:27

Okay.

3:22:29

Motion by Representative Rocha and second by Representative.

3:22:32

Chavez and Representative Nino.

3:22:34

Alrighty.

3:22:35

Mary Lee, you back up.

3:22:36

Mary Louis Spinoza with the real estate division for the record.

3:22:40

This property is at 212 dolin, also known as property identification number 315742.

3:22:47

Background information on this property is the abiding property owner provided a survey that showed a portion of their single family home encroaching on city property.

3:22:56

Comments from planning and inspections indicated that the city owned parcel is a leftover parcel from a major from a part uh prior realignment of Baisano Drive.

3:23:06

The city owned parcel has no lawful independent access and does not meet the minimum zoning or dimensional standards for development on its own.

3:23:14

This uh transaction does meet the exception to bid notice.

3:23:18

Texas Local Government Code Section 272.001, letters B through J.

3:23:24

The property is 0.04 acres in size.

3:23:28

Its current zoning is A2.

3:23:30

The proposed buyers are Jesus Martin Lara and Lorena Villar.

3:23:33

The purchase price of $1,060 plus closing costs, and we do recommend selling the property to the abutting property owner.

3:23:42

Okay.

3:23:42

Is there any discussion on this item number 26?

3:23:48

All right, Ms.

3:23:48

Brian, call for the vote, please.

3:23:50

Yes, the motion was made by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, seconded by Representative Nino to adopt the ordinance on item 26.

3:23:56

There is no public comment on that motion.

3:23:58

Call for the vote.

3:24:02

And the voting session.

3:24:04

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:24:06

Okay, let's take item number 27, please.

3:24:09

Item 27 is a public hearing of an ordinance amending El Paso City Code Title 20 zoning, chapter 20.02, Article 2, definitions to add a definition for short-term rental.

3:24:21

Good afternoon.

3:24:23

Good afternoon, Mayor and City Council Kevin Smith with Planning Inspections.

3:24:26

Is there a motion to approve this?

3:24:28

Second.

3:24:29

All right.

3:24:30

Kevin, you're up.

3:24:31

Okay.

3:24:32

Let's see the presentation.

3:24:33

Thank you.

3:24:33

So we'll just have a brief presentation for you on this item here.

3:24:36

So just a quick background.

3:24:38

In October of last year, uh staff presented along with the Greater El Paso Association of Realtors and El Paso Short-Term Rental Alliance on short-term rentals here in El Paso.

3:24:48

As part of that presentation, staff did present a recommendation to create a definition for short-term rentals in a zoning code, and I'll get to the that here in a moment.

3:24:56

This item on this agenda here is that recommended definition.

3:25:00

And the City Planning Commission did recommend approval of this definition that will be uh shown here shortly.

3:25:07

So under the current code, uh short-term rentals are not uh explicitly classified um in our in our zoning code.

3:25:16

Staff has been we've been classifying them as a bed and breakfast.

3:25:19

It's not really compatible with the actual use.

3:25:23

And under the Ben Bref bed and breakfast definition, uh it does require a special permit application, which as you are aware, all special permit applications require city council approval.

3:25:36

So the recommendation is this definition uh here on the slide.

3:25:40

Um it was also included as a backup I will not read it to you, but um this is a definition that would be uh if approved by council that would be included as part of the uh our El Paso City Code and would create a definition for short-term rentals here in the City of El Paso.

3:25:55

With that, that concludes the presentation.

3:25:57

I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.

3:25:59

Council, any questions?

3:26:00

Uh Representative Canales?

3:26:01

Thank you.

3:26:02

Just a quick comment, and that's this presentation is short because of a lot of other presentations that came before it that were far less short.

3:26:09

So thank you to uh staff in GEPR and the Short Term Rental Alliance for working together on getting to the getting to something that everyone could agree on.

3:26:17

And uh I think the council is ready to get happy and ready to pass something today.

3:26:21

Yeah, appreciate it.

3:26:22

Thank you.

3:26:22

Thank you.

3:26:23

Representative Rocha.

3:26:25

Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Kevin.

3:26:27

I want to echo Rep Canales' um statements as well.

3:26:30

Thank you to Gephardt, thank you to Heidi and the Short Term Rental Alliance and your group, Kevin.

3:26:36

Thank you all so much for collaborating with them and working to this to to this place that we are now.

3:26:42

I I think it's a great way for these these groups to be able to have that that feeling of being included in that process, and it really helps that process move forward.

3:26:55

So thank you all for the great work on this.

3:26:57

Appreciate it.

3:26:57

Thank you.

3:26:58

Thank you.

3:26:58

All right, Ms.

3:26:59

Brian, I believe we have public comment.

3:27:01

Yes, Mayor, we do have five people that signed up to speak.

3:27:04

The first person is Heidi Sience.

3:27:08

Soens, followed by Denise Ivana Perales, Ernesto Garcia.

3:27:12

Good afternoon.

3:27:15

Thank you, good afternoon, Mayor and City Council members.

3:27:18

My name is Heidi Sewens, and I'm here on behalf of the El Paso Short-Term Rental Alliance and as a board member of the Texas Short-Term Rental Association.

3:27:27

First, I want to sincerely thank each of you, and especially city staff, for your time, your openness, and your willingness to work with our alliance over the years.

3:27:37

It's already been three years since we started this.

3:27:42

We truly appreciate the conversations, the collaboration, and the effort that has gone into understanding our industry and our community.

3:27:50

Our alliance represents local families, small business owners, and responsible operators who care deeply about El Paso.

3:27:58

We are committed to being good neighbors, operating with accountability, and could contributing positively to our city's economy and growth.

3:28:06

As our alliance continues to grow stronger, we look forward to continuing this partnership in the years to come, working together with transparency, respect, and a shared goal of what's best for El Paso.

3:28:17

Thank you again for your leadership, your service, and for allowing us to be part of this ongoing conversation.

3:28:23

Thank you.

3:28:24

The next speaker is Denise Ivana Perales.

3:28:30

Thank you for your time.

3:28:31

Um just to clarify by a mistake I put that I was against, but I actually am in favor of this.

3:28:38

I was probably sleeping.

3:28:41

So no, it seems like uh this is really important for us to have clarity uh guarding uh and the way that you you see us uh as an authority.

3:28:51

And this is very important that we have reached to something that is meaningful for all of us.

3:28:56

So that's why I'm in favor.

3:28:57

Thank you.

3:28:58

All right, thank you.

3:28:59

Ernesto Garcia.

3:29:03

Good afternoon, Ernesto.

3:29:05

Good afternoon, guys.

3:29:05

Uh once again from the Greater El Paso Association of Realtors.

3:29:08

We continue to uh support the Short Term Rental Alliance and we'll continue to back them as we look ahead to the future.

3:29:13

We still have a lot of things to work on, and we can't wait to get to work with you guys on it.

3:29:17

Thank you very much.

3:29:17

Thank you.

3:29:18

Patricia Osmond.

3:29:21

Followed by Michael Bray.

3:29:28

Decided I you know, they always say dress for the job you want.

3:29:32

I figure I would uh dress for the times we are in.

3:29:36

Apparently we are living in Gilead.

3:29:41

So the questions in regards to defining short-term rental.

3:29:47

Mr.

3:29:48

Canales in the past has brought up, you know, Airbnb and the rentals and everything that's out there online.

3:30:00

The problem the the I have a couple of questions that I hope all citizens ask themselves, not just city council.

3:30:05

Is are you changing this definition?

3:30:08

Because we can hope that you will in the future, like other communities, ban short-term rentals because of the issues that they create in the communities.

3:30:19

There's the shortage of homes.

3:30:23

We already have a home shortage here.

3:30:26

So those little investment properties exacerbate that issue.

3:30:31

Short-term rentals also raise rental rates for those living in our community, not just the short-term rental folks.

3:30:46

I realize that everybody in support of this are just people that are going to profit from it.

3:30:55

Not considering the community in the residents that live here.

3:31:01

And everything that the communities have to raise expenses, rentals, difficulty in finding homes.

3:31:13

So you're doing a definition to help the real estate folks who, some of which do donate to your discretionary funds.

3:31:24

Anyone looking through the P cards or you know, donation agendas can all discover that.

3:31:33

I'm just kind of curious at what point will you start actually creating something not for those who seek to profit off the community?

3:31:47

But those in the community living here.

3:31:53

Raise their standards, as versus keep letting people pull homes away from others who would choose to live there and be part of the community long term.

3:32:10

Other communities across the U.S.

3:32:12

are banning short-term rentals, banning verbo and Airbnb.

3:32:18

And instead, El Paso is always behind the curve on that stuff.

3:32:22

But I'm curious, is it because you're going to add this to the hot tax?

3:32:28

We're already in a MSR.

3:32:30

Final speaker is Michael Bray.

3:32:36

Thank you.

3:32:37

I'll try to be uh brief.

3:32:39

I was just talking to the Mayor Cook there in the back.

3:32:41

I can't think of a better way to spend uh I guess the anniversary of probably uh day of celebration of what's probably my last decade in coming down here, and I've been doing this for about 40 years.

3:32:53

Let me just start out by saying I really came here to thank everybody, thank the mayor for his leadership, thank each and every one of you on council for your diligence and looking at this really important uh project, looking out for the community, looking out for the members that uh live and uh exist in here, and mostly with working with uh with staff, and this has been what about a three-year process.

3:33:19

So this is not the first time that we've been visiting, maybe not the the last time.

3:33:25

I think uh really the other key thing, and I'm here to speak uh kind of in favor of this.

3:33:30

And I remember a time when, and Mayor Cook will uh back me up on this.

3:33:34

I've been doing this for almost 40 years now, and we used to have to come down here with you know the pitchforks and the torches and all other stuff.

3:33:42

We put those things long away away a long time ago.

3:33:45

And what we discovered is it's much more effective if we gather everybody in the same room, staff, industry experts, members of the constituency there, and we found that typically the smartest person is the room in the room, the smartest person in the room is the room itself.

3:34:06

We get together, we work on things, and this is the result of that, that that uh working kind of relationship.

3:34:12

So again, I'm just really here to say thank you.

3:34:15

They told me if I was short on this, there would be some cake back there.

3:34:19

So thank you very much for your leadership and vote for this uh particularly.

3:34:23

Michael, we want to wish you a happy birthday as well.

3:34:25

Well, thank you.

3:34:26

Yeah, happy birthday.

3:34:27

Okay, cake?

3:34:28

No.

3:34:30

Representative Chavez.

3:34:32

Thank you, Mayor.

3:34:32

Happy birthday, Michael.

3:34:34

And I just want to congratulate the team, uh, planning and inspections, Kevin and and the rest of the team, the short-term rental alliance, get bar, everybody who's been involved in this process.

3:34:43

I think frequently we talk about not working in silos, and this is a great example of what can really happen when we come together.

3:34:50

So congratulations.

3:34:52

Representative.

3:34:53

Thank you, Mayor.

3:34:54

And I was gonna say exactly that echo uh congrats to the entire team.

3:34:58

I know that this has been ongoing conversations for the last three years.

3:35:01

I remember when we had our first community meeting at the beast three years ago, and that you know the conversation started.

3:35:08

So thank you guys for all the work, and it's great to see it coming forward.

3:35:11

Thank you.

3:35:12

All right, Miss Prime, I don't believe we have any other comments on item 27.

3:35:17

No, sir.

3:35:18

All right, would you please call for the vote?

3:35:19

Yes, the motion was made by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, seconded by Representative Carnales to adopt the ordinance on item 27 on that motion.

3:35:27

Call for the vote and the voting session.

3:35:35

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:35:38

Okay.

3:35:40

Ms.

3:35:41

Brian, let's take item number 28.

3:35:43

Yes, sir.

3:35:43

Item 28 and 29 are related.

3:35:45

Would you like to take them together?

3:35:47

I would love to.

3:35:48

Thank you.

3:35:48

Item 28 is a public hearing of an ordinance changing the zoning from R4 residential to C2 commercial and imposing conditions at 8701 Gateway South Boulevard.

3:35:57

And item 29 is an ordinance granting a special permit to allow for a reduction to rear yard and site street yard setbacks to allow for the use of contractor's yard.

3:36:07

Okay, is there a motion to approve this?

3:36:10

Second.

3:36:10

All right.

3:36:11

Good afternoon.

3:36:12

Good afternoon, Mayor and Council representatives.

3:36:15

Can we see your presentations, please?

3:36:16

Yes, Luisa Mora with planning and inspection.

3:36:18

So item 28 and 29 are going to be presented together.

3:36:22

As mentioned, 28 is the rezoning and 29 is a special permit request for the same property.

3:36:32

So here's the aerial imagery of the subject property.

3:36:35

It's existing.

3:36:48

Right now it is zoned as R4 residential.

3:36:51

So the request is to rezone to C2 and to request a special permit to allow the use of contractor yard, as well as reducing setbacks for the subject uh property and the existing uh structures.

3:37:05

So future land use map for this area is G3 post-war, uh, which calls for uh strategic retrofits to supplement the civ missing civic and commercial uses in this area.

3:37:17

Uh we know Gateway South is a major road, it's a freeway.

3:37:22

Uh so residential is really not appropriate for this area anymore.

3:37:27

Uh rezoning this property will trans help to transition uh lower intensity uses away from the freeway.

3:37:35

So here we have a detail side plan.

3:37:37

The side plan will be but will be binding per the special permit request.

3:37:42

Uh as I mentioned, most of it's already existing.

3:37:45

So it just um the only changes will be uh some uh landscaping that will be built or installed for the subject property.

3:37:54

Uh the uses again, it's uh there's an existing dwelling in there that will remain as a watchman dwelling for the contractor yard, and then the the rest is for the office of the contractor and storage.

3:38:08

Here are the current conditions showing kind of pictures of what's existing.

3:38:12

Maximum elevation is 15 feet high, which complies with zoning requirements.

3:38:17

Uh here's the side plan superimposed on the aerial.

3:38:21

Here are here our picture of such a property, as you can see from uh this is from gateway.

3:38:28

And then surrounding development to the west, we have residential single family home across the street uh on the freeway.

3:38:38

It's a vacant lot which is on uh commercial, and then property to the south, it's also zone commercial, currently vacant.

3:38:45

And to this to the north, we have a a close close by.

3:38:48

We have an uh an hotel and another contractor yard, as well as a single family home adjacent to this property.

3:38:56

So we did send on uh the applicant notified the Sunrise Network Association back when they submitted the application.

3:39:03

Uh we did something that send notices for the public hearings.

3:39:07

Uh at this time we have received only one letter in support of the request.

3:39:11

Here you can see the notice map of all those properties that got notified.

3:39:15

Uh we send 13 notices in total for 15 properties.

3:39:20

Uh so with this, and just as a reminder, this is two items.

3:39:24

So this is the first one for the rezoning.

3:39:26

So our staff recommendation and city plan commission is to approve with conditions of the rezoning.

3:39:31

First condition is to impose a landscape uh buffer uh along with uh 20 feet uh trees every 20 feet on center adjacent to residential some properties just to protect those residential homes.

3:39:45

Second condition is to kind of restrict uh the having multiple businesses that uh sorry that with more than 50 percent of their income from alcohol and then providing outdoor amplified sound.

3:40:03

Again, this is to protect those residential homes.

3:40:07

And then the second item, which is the special permit, the recommendation is approval of such and the detail side development plan.

3:40:13

And this includes a request for a street setback reduction and rear setback reduction as well as approval of the use of contractor yarn the property.

3:40:23

And with this that concludes my presentation.

3:40:25

Okay, representative uh Lima.

3:40:28

How long did this um business operate illegally?

3:40:34

Uh some not aware.

3:40:36

We can we have checked before uh aerial imagery.

3:40:43

We're still unsure as to when exactly they started operating.

3:40:47

Um but that's as much information as we have at this time.

3:40:50

When were you made aware that it was operating illegally?

3:40:54

Uh so I believe we were um processing an always zoning in this area, which is when we started noticing that there was another an illegal business in that area, and this probably about three years ago, I believe.

3:41:10

I have a problem, a real deep problem with businesses operating illegally.

3:41:15

I've encountered one in my district, and it's just a really hard thing.

3:41:19

Um what are the consequences for business that operate illegally before getting their permitting?

3:41:26

Um so let me define it for him.

3:41:32

Thank you, Kevin.

3:41:34

Good afternoon again, Kevin Smith with Planning Inspection.

3:41:36

So there are a couple of items.

3:41:38

Obviously, what we're discussing about here to remedy this is obviously the rezoning and the special permit.

3:41:43

We do have to look at if it's appropriate or not.

3:41:46

Um the other item is if it there was any items constructed without permits, we all either impose a double fee or a triple fee to that property.

3:41:55

Then as well as there's a court proceedings as well, um, which um I believe that would go through Steve Val Rado's team to go to municipal court for any any action and and consequences for that.

3:42:07

But were there any consequences to this business?

3:42:10

Have there been any consequences?

3:42:13

That's so obviously this is this is one where it does have to go through that that um that process, that public process where it gets approved.

3:42:21

Um I will have to defer to Steve and team.

3:42:26

I'm not sure if um this item.

3:42:29

And I believe Danny Chevier here is here as well from planning inspections who could talk about the building permit aspect as well.

3:42:35

Thank you.

3:42:36

Yeah.

3:42:39

Good afternoon.

3:42:40

Uh Daniel Chabina with planning and inspections.

3:42:43

So during uh once uh the property goes to this uh zoning change uh application and reduction of setbacks, they're gonna have to submit for building permits.

3:42:53

So when it gets to that stage is when we know that work was done illegally, and that's when the penalty fees are gonna be assessed.

3:43:01

That is part of the part of the process there.

3:43:05

So now that they've gone now, so the fees are assessed as part of the permitting.

3:43:15

When they come through through now after the fact coming through for a permit.

3:43:19

Correct.

3:43:19

And the fees are much much higher than they would be if it was a regular request.

3:43:24

Is that correct?

3:43:25

Correct.

3:43:25

Once the permit fee is assessed, it's gonna be uh triple the amount of what they would have paid if they would have done it uh legally.

3:43:33

Okay.

3:43:34

Okay.

3:43:35

I I just have a concern with um the operation of businesses without permits.

3:43:42

Um this one was like eight years before we ever caught it.

3:43:47

And and so I just have a problem with that.

3:43:49

But thank you for the information.

3:43:51

Thank you.

3:43:51

Mayor, thank you.

3:43:52

Representative Canales.

3:43:56

Uh I guess that answered most of my questions.

3:43:59

Is there do we know is there a pending uh enforcement case uh either going through municipal court or currently with code enforcement?

3:44:07

Mayor, city council Steve Alvarado for the record.

3:44:10

Uh I don't have the data with me, I wasn't expecting that, but I could get you that information.

3:44:14

Okay.

3:44:15

Um being told we do have one right now.

3:44:19

So there is a there is a pending enforcement case.

3:44:24

The representative um for this application is here as well, so I believe he can answer a little bit more of that as well.

3:44:29

Why couldn't we?

3:44:32

Um is there any more questions from council?

3:44:35

We're gonna let the public speak too.

3:44:38

Uh yeah, I was hoping if he has a question.

3:44:41

Sure.

3:44:42

Yes.

3:44:42

All right.

3:44:43

Mayor.

3:44:43

Good afternoon.

3:44:45

Pleasure to be here sitting on the other side of the table for a change.

3:44:49

Uh I was hired uh uh by the owner of the property uh after he had already been summoned to go to court.

3:44:57

Okay so uh to answer your question.

3:45:00

So uh to answer your question, had there been any uh legal consequences and yes, he had to go before a judge and the judge told him I'll I'll give you so much time to take care of that.

3:45:09

He hired me to uh to make sure that we did conform to the city's codes and to get all the proper permits.

3:45:18

So I want to thank the the city staff for the excellent work that they did and and uh taking this is not as a simple case because some of the things that were built there without a permit were built back in the 1970s.

3:45:31

Uh so uh so I do want to thank staff for the way that they worked with the the property owner and myself in order to resolve those those problems.

3:45:42

Um what this this is an electrical contractor, so some of the concerns about noise and all uh they go there, they pick up their materials and they they go to job sites.

3:45:53

So uh I think it uh I did go and meet in individually with all of the neighbors that are there and ask them if they were opposed to the project.

3:46:03

And uh they all look at this man as being a good neighbor, and they've enjoyed him being there in the past.

3:46:13

Okay.

3:46:13

Um I guess one final question is that uh do we have an understanding of if those structures have been there since the 1970s, has the property had the same owner since the 1970s, or is this a newer operator there?

3:46:23

I know you said you saw additional construction around 2017.

3:46:26

Yeah, so that's one thing we don't really have uh information for.

3:46:30

Um we're not sure when ownership change.

3:46:33

Uh so one thing I can say is part of the request for the setback reduction is because there was a well the existing house has been there for a long time.

3:46:41

Okay, I believe it goes back even predates uh um the zoning ordinance back in the fifteen fifty-four.

3:46:49

Um so we know that that one technically was there before you know we have any selling requirements.

3:46:55

Uh there's other options for them to legalize that, but at this time going through this process, that's another option that they cannot pursue.

3:47:02

Um for some other ones, I think there's just gonna like a start chairs, which if they did not get permits for those, then they will be required to to legalize those through permitting.

3:47:16

Okay, thank you, Mayor.

3:47:17

All right, Ms.

3:47:18

Prime, we have public comment on this item.

3:47:20

We just had former mayor cook.

3:47:23

Okay, is it you have anything else to say, Mayor?

3:47:26

No.

3:47:27

Okay.

3:47:28

You're welcome.

3:47:29

All right.

3:47:29

See no further comments, Ms.

3:47:31

Prime, please call for the vote on 2829.

3:47:33

Yes, sir.

3:47:34

The motion was made by Representative Malona Dorta, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez to adopt the ordinances on items 28 and 29 on that motion.

3:47:42

Call for the vote and the voting session.

3:47:51

And that motion passes unanimously.

3:47:53

Okay, thank you, the state.

3:47:55

You're welcome.

3:47:56

And Ms.

3:47:56

Brian, I know there's a lot of members of the public here for still item number 34.

3:48:01

And the media is here too.

3:48:02

We're gonna try to get that moved up just as quickly as we can, okay?

3:48:06

Uh Ms.

3:48:06

Brian, let's take item 30.

3:48:08

Yes, sir.

3:48:08

Item 30 is a public hearing of an ordinance amending ordinance 16015 to grant the authority to the city manager to administratively enter into and sign certain contracts on behalf of the city in alignment with recent changes to local government code section 252.021 and repealing ordinance number 016736.

3:48:27

Okay.

3:48:28

Okay, there's a motion to approve in the second.

3:48:31

Good afternoon.

3:48:32

Can we see your presentation?

3:48:35

Hello, good afternoon, Gladia Garcia with purchasing and strategic sourcing department.

3:48:44

Okay, so uh what we are requesting under these uh revision to this ordinance, it is essentially to align this ordinance with the changes made to the state regulation um for procurement and competitive uh bidding.

3:48:58

So that is one of the uh revisions to this ordinance and also to allow uh for automatic uh alignment as the code may change in the future, so we don't need to bring this item uh again to city council for approval.

3:49:15

And the last item it is also to uh give uh authority to city manager or designee to enter into contracts in compliance with uh competitive procurements as allowed by regulations, including uh state regulations and policies for multi-year awards up to the amount being amended by the regulation moving from 50,000 to 100,000 dollars.

3:49:45

Just some background about this ordinance.

3:49:47

It was adopted back in 2005.

3:49:49

Later in 2007 was modified again to align with the revision to the code, moving it from uh 25 uh thousand to 50,000, and now these uh regulation changing it to 50 to 100,000 dollars.

3:50:00

including uh state regulations and policies for multi-year awards up to the amount being amended by the regulation moving from fifty thousand to a hundred thousand dollars just some background about this ordinance it was adopted back in two thousand five later in two thousand seven was modified again to align with the revision to the code moving it from uh 25 uh thousand to fifty thousand and now these uh regulation changing it to fifty to a hundred thousand dollars is that it's okay all right uh representative uh chavez thank you mayor thank you Claudia I have a question regarding this is this change um in order to be compliant with state law yes we're aligning aligning uh these ordinance do they change that the code uh requirement had back in September so state laws requiring us oh one of the city attorney's office we are in compliant we're just going to align with what the state law allows we our thresholds were below what the floor was or actually what the ceiling was when it came to these type of procurements we still have to procure you know the uh the solicitations regardless for the goods and services but uh the legislature has given us a little bit more authority so we're aligning our practices with what the state legislature is now allowing us to do so what is what is what is the state say what is the requirement from the state floor was fifty thousand they've raised it up to a hundred thousand we're bringing the city manager's authority in line with what the legislature has allowed which is a hundred thousand but that is that a state requirement or a policy decision here locally the raising from the 50 to 100 is a policy okay but not a state requirement is not a requirement to move it up okay potentially then um if we adopt this policy then the authority would be up to potentially right up to five hundred thousand dollars yes ma'am okay um do we know how many contracts fall within this uh amount so we uh analyze our data for last two uh fiscal years so we have an average let's say these was applied uh two years ago we had an average of uh 25 to 30 items that would fall under these uh near regularly yeah thank you how many did you say again between 25 and 30 per year per year okay and I guess I guess for one year between 50 and 100 doesn't seem like a lot but up to five hundred thousand seems like a lot do you know how many would potentially fall within that category up to five hundred thousand dollars so that's the based on the analyzing data from prior prior years it would be uh between twenty five and thirty potentially I mean it can it depends on the cycles of the contracts that we have but that's an average that we uh calculated from prior years.

3:52:47

And I understand that things cost more money these days and costs have increased generally speaking I just uh think that uh council at least in my role uh has a responsibility to to make sure that um we are fiscally responsible so I I think the threshold up to five hundred thousand dollars seems a little bit too much for me at this time but thank you for the presentation just add something that's for multi-year uh context yes but we don't know how many fall within that category based on statistics it is between twenty five and thirty per year per year okay thank you Claudia Representative thank you mayor I I have a lot of trouble with with this as it's presented from what I'm understanding what our our legal advice on this is it's something that we can do but we don't have to do it correctly yes okay and so for me I take transparency and accountability really to heart and make sure that we are holding the city accountable in many different ways and I think this is one of the biggest ways that the council can do this giving authority to go and sign a contract for up to 100,000 dollars rather than $50,000 really erodes a lot of the power that the council has in my opinion and where we're getting five hundred thousand dollars is that every year you could do a hundred thousand for up to five years.

3:54:20

So a hundred thousand times five is five hundred thousand dollars and that can be done without any approval of city council correct if this were to pass.

3:54:30

It would um typically the approval would be through this ordinance and then of course through the budgetary process which all expenditures typically run through just for your own edification we chose the 5000 because it was a prior consent threshold so the consent threshold was removed up to one point five the prior one was five hundred thousand and we figured that was just a operational uh efficiency you know that we could lean upon but it's ultimately of course council's decision but there could be a a scenario that maybe throughout the year there's something budgeted in in one of the many budget lines that we have and something comes up and we say okay well the city manager has the authority to go sign a contract for ninety nine thousand dollars that would stay with the city manager's office it wouldn't even come to council because that authority would be granted at that point if it is a multi year contract that threshold the ninety nine thousand over multiple years earlier

3:55:00

But there could be a a scenario that maybe throughout the year there's something budgeted in in one of the many budget lines that we have, and something comes up and we say, okay, well, the city manager has the authority to go sign a contract for $99,000.

3:55:17

That would stay with the city manager's office.

3:55:19

It wouldn't even come to council because that authority would be granted at that point.

3:55:24

If it is a multi-year contract that uh threshold, the 99,000 over multiple years already exists.

3:55:30

Yes, sir.

3:55:31

Okay.

3:55:32

And then I I really look at this and think about what happened last year when we uh voted to move things to consent that were under a million or what was it, under a million dollars would be on consent.

3:55:51

It used to be under $500,000 would be on consent.

3:55:55

So we made that change.

3:55:56

I voted against that last year because at the same time I felt like the accountability piece was being taken away from council at that point too.

3:56:05

And I worry what this can present.

3:56:08

I've also been in scenarios, I haven't seen it at the city, so I want to be very clear, where going above $50,000 can present a lot of challenges to governance.

3:56:19

And I worry that that could put us in this territory just because the state is allowing us to do it, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it.

3:56:27

This is still something that we could locally control, and I'm more comfortable with the 50,000 threshold rather than 100,000.

3:56:35

So thank you.

3:56:37

Representative Nino?

3:56:38

Thank you, Mayor.

3:56:39

Um Ms.

3:56:40

Mack, what are the types of contracts that usually are brought forward with with this uh type of authority?

3:56:49

Or Claudia?

3:56:50

So for uh procurement items that we facilitate, we still follow a competitor procurement methodology to get into those contracts.

3:56:57

So we still follow the same processes that we would for a formal process, an item coming to you for award.

3:57:04

So we still opened uh the procurement to the public through our online bidding system, so all the vendors that are that can provide those services are encouraged to participate in the procurement process, and we would follow the same evaluation process depending on the methodology you were using.

3:57:20

Uh and then it would give us authority just to award those administratively, but the procurement process for purchasing, it would be the same under the purchasing directory authority.

3:57:30

So it goes through the exact same process as any other bid, it's just doesn't even be posted on an agenda for us to approve.

3:57:36

Correct.

3:57:36

Correct.

3:57:37

You said that it was anywhere from 25 to 30 potential contracts per year in the last two years, right?

3:57:43

Yes.

3:57:44

Okay.

3:57:44

No, that clarifies a lot of my my thought process.

3:57:47

I just wanted to make sure that it goes through the RFP, RFQ, RFI, or um that it still goes through the procurement process.

3:57:54

Thank you.

3:57:58

Yes, Mayor, we have Ms.

3:57:59

Osmond.

3:58:08

It would appear most people also don't read the fine print.

3:58:11

So I want to make sure, you know, I didn't come up with the with the costume.

3:58:16

So residents take me seriously.

3:58:23

Now you're giving more power to the city manager who during city manager hiring.

3:58:32

Citizens were asking at all of these meetings that we no longer wanted a city manager.

3:58:39

But then we were told, hey, because of the charter, we couldn't that couldn't be put out there because of the time limit.

3:58:48

But I want all citizens to understand this isn't just a purchasing issue.

3:58:53

Okay, because they slip in.

3:58:55

You know how like Congress slips in, all that pork?

3:58:58

What slips in here that every resident should know, because nobody here has said it.

3:59:07

Is on here.

3:59:09

Page one, section F.

3:59:13

Including, but not limited to the city council's discretionary funds expenditure.

3:59:22

So how much can she just write off that you all that gets donated by whether it's foster, Jordan Foster, Paul Foster, real estate.

3:59:35

How much more is she gonna be able to sign off and just let you all go willy-nilly with and does that mean nothing's gonna come in front of us?

3:59:47

Because quite frankly, citizens of El Paso want our representatives in our mayor responsible again.

3:59:57

We don't want this shadow government.

4:00:02

We no longer want a city manager.

4:00:05

And when y'all were hiring, when leaser went through this, people spoke out about it.

4:00:10

I spoke out about it because that those same four candidates that came up were the same four that came up before.

4:00:18

He pulled it off when I spoke.

4:00:21

And the news threw me up there about oh our leaser pulled it off the agenda.

4:00:29

We want our government back for the people by the people.

4:00:34

Meaning who we vote for should be who makes the decisions, and not the shadow back of the house able to just willy-nilly let you all do with whatever on that discretionary fund.

4:00:50

Yeah.

4:00:50

Everybody needs to read this, because that if y'all don't line item that out, then I don't know what citizen wouldn't consider that fraud.

4:01:05

Okay, Miss Bryan, I believe that believes all the comment.

4:01:09

Yes, that is all the public comment on this item.

4:01:12

Okay.

4:01:12

Here are no further discussion on this item number 30.

4:01:15

Please call for the vote.

4:01:16

Yes, a motion was made by Representative Limon, secondary by Representative Canales to adopt the ordinance on item 30 on that motion.

4:01:24

Call for the vote.

4:01:30

And the voting session.

4:01:32

And the motion fails.

4:01:34

Two to three.

4:01:35

Representatives Chavez Acevedo Nino voting nay.

4:01:38

Representatives Limon Canales voting aye.

4:01:41

Representative Madonado Rocha not present.

4:01:44

Okay.

4:01:45

Let's take uh item number 50.

4:01:48

Yes.

4:01:49

Is that right?

4:01:49

Would you like to okay?

4:01:51

5051.

4:01:52

Would you like to take them together, sir?

4:01:54

Yes, please.

4:01:55

Okay.

4:01:56

Item 50 is discussion in action that the city that the mayor of the city of Al Paso, Texas, be authorized to sign resolutions of support and or resolutions of no objection for the following 2026, 9% regional competitive low-income housing tax credit light tech applications to Cielo Towers 2, located at 201 Cortez Drive, to East Side Crossings 2, located at Sarago San Joe Battle, and Siesta Garden located at 9,009 Dyer Street.

4:02:25

All right, Ms.

4:02:26

Prime, we're actually going to take them separate now.

4:02:27

Yes, okay.

4:02:28

Rep uh is there a motion to approve?

4:02:33

I'd like to make a motion to approve item number 50 on the agenda.

4:02:36

Okay.

4:02:38

Is there a second?

4:02:40

Second.

4:02:40

All right, Representative Canales.

4:02:44

My apologies, Mary, I don't mean to nitpick.

4:02:46

There does have to be a more specific motion.

4:02:48

Um I'm happy to we are making decisions about which projects to offer which types of support, and so there we do have to make specific motions about you know to to effectuate that.

4:03:03

Okay.

4:03:04

Representative Lemon.

4:03:06

Okay.

4:03:07

Um Represent Canales.

4:03:12

Thank you.

4:03:13

Um I move that the mayor be authorized to sign resolutions of support for Siesta Jardin and Cielo Towers 2 and a resolution of no objection for East Side Crossings too.

4:03:23

Uh, and that the mayor be authorized to sign a resolution acknowledging oh, that's that's the other item.

4:03:29

So I'll leave it at the first one.

4:03:34

Yes, ma'am.

4:03:35

So you I believe you you retracted your motion, and then Representative Carnegie's made a motion that the city council authorize resolutions of support to Cielo Towers 2 look and a resolution of no objection to East Side Crossings 2 and a resolution of support to Siesta Garden.

4:03:57

Second.

4:03:58

Okay, we have a motion second.

4:04:00

Can we see the presentation, please?

4:04:02

Yes.

4:04:03

Uh good afternoon, Nicole Rodriguez with Community Human Development.

4:04:06

Um I'll be providing the staff recommendation for the 9% low-income housing tax credits, affectionately for the 2026 cycle.

4:04:18

So back in October of 2025, this body uh adopted the policy for the evaluation of how we'll proceed with providing recommendations for Light Tech.

4:04:30

Just as a reminder, this process after this process uh is complete, developers are able to compete at the state level.

4:04:38

Uh resolution of support would provide them 17 points, a resolution of no objection would provide them 14 points at the state, and then no action would give them zero.

4:04:49

The evaluation criteria that we use is based off of 115 points.

4:05:00

Uh a resolution of no objection would be given to projects that scored within 70 to 79, and then anything below that would be no action.

4:05:08

So we received four applications.

4:05:10

They were all from the same applicant, the housing authority.

4:05:13

Um these are the scores that we received.

4:05:17

Two of the uh projects, Cielo Towers 2 and Ciesta Hardin scored over the threshold of 80 for a recommendation of resolution of support.

4:05:30

The East Sides Crossings 2 scored within the threshold for a resolution of no objection, and then we're recommending taking no action on Alamito Seniors.

4:05:42

And so the requested action is that the mayor be authorized to sign resolutions of support for Siesta Haradin and Cielo Towers 2, and then a resolution of no objection for East Sites Crossing 2.

4:05:52

Okay.

4:05:53

Representative Lamont.

4:05:54

Did you want to?

4:05:56

Okay.

4:05:56

Representative Kenalvis.

4:05:59

Thank you, Mayor.

4:06:00

Um Yeah, I guess first of all, uh kudos to the staff for working through the the process and working through the kinks on what was ultimately a very new evaluation process.

4:06:12

Um I'll say thank you to the council for supporting the rewrite of that process last year into this year.

4:06:18

I think um it's borne fruit already in that we see projects that are scoring significantly higher that I think will offer a much higher level of uh comfortable and healthy and happy living for the people who who live there.

4:06:33

Um then you know, major kudos to the applicants who worked with us through the the process as well because it was new.

4:06:41

Um, not always easy to switch up the way that you've been doing things for quite a long time.

4:06:46

So thank you to everybody who went through the process to get us to hear.

4:06:52

Um and again, these aren't in my district, but ultimately I think what we all want is is the best quality affordable housing developments for everyone in El Paso.

4:07:05

Um in the past we really ran the risk of losing a lot of this funding and these projects to outside of the city.

4:07:13

Um and so uh this has really helped us to capture these projects within the city and make sure that that we're offering uh very good options for places for people to live.

4:07:24

And hopefully eating into that public housing wait list a little bit because it's still quite large.

4:07:30

Um just uh again for for the clarification for the public.

4:07:36

This isn't the end of the process.

4:07:38

I know Nicole, you said it in your presentation.

4:07:40

Um the city gets to offer additional points that kind of tack on to the state scoring of these projects.

4:07:47

Um very often those additional points can make or break one of these projects.

4:07:54

Um but that doesn't make this a definitive decision on where these will ultimately be selected.

4:08:00

The the scoring is still dependent on the state as well as as our additional points.

4:08:04

Um but yeah, very happy to support and I urge the council to support these projects.

4:08:10

Um they will they will offer something that I think is uh a very good experience for El Paso residents.

4:08:16

Thanks.

4:08:16

Thank you, Mayor.

4:08:17

All right.

4:08:18

Ms.

4:08:19

Prime, believe we have public comment on this item.

4:08:21

Yes, sir, we do.

4:08:22

We have Mr.

4:08:23

Gerald Seychon and Shaudi Relas.

4:08:31

Good afternoon.

4:08:32

Good afternoon.

4:08:33

I want to say morning, but uh it's not.

4:08:35

Yeah.

4:08:36

Uh Mayor Johnson, city representatives.

4:08:39

Uh I want to say thank you for all your hard work.

4:08:41

Um I don't often get a chance to come down here and sit for an entire morning and see how difficult your jobs are.

4:08:47

Uh it's a very difficult job, and I want to say thank you on behalf of the housing authority for all the hard work uh that you do uh providing uh oversight and and leadership for the city of El Paso.

4:08:56

Um Ms.

4:08:57

Neiman and and uh Ms.

4:08:59

Dion, thank you also for all of your help.

4:09:01

Um the uh the process uh was a good process this year.

4:09:05

I want to thank also Nicole and Abraham and the community development for everything they've done with working through this.

4:09:10

I have one request on this.

4:09:11

Um the only applicant, what we're trying to do is maximize the number of dollars to El Paso.

4:09:18

So we have three applications, and the three applications went in, one for two million, one for two million, and one for one point six.

4:09:25

And the reason why that is done is to if there's money left over in the collapse, that money can then come to El Paso.

4:09:31

Uh so you're really talking about possibly 40 million dollars or 36 million dollars.

4:09:36

If we can get a let a resolution of support for that East Side Crossings application, um that would allow us then to pick and choose uh which ones would then maximize the amount of money coming to El Paso so that money is not given up.

4:09:51

Seeing that there's no other competitors uh in this round, we respectfully ask uh that we have resolutions of support for all three so that uh if there is a collapse, we can increase the money coming to El Paso by approximately six million dollars.

4:10:03

Uh and that would be about uh about fifteen to twenty additional units.

4:10:07

Thank you.

4:10:08

Thank you.

4:10:09

Shelly Rebus.

4:10:14

Good afternoon, good afternoon.

4:10:16

Shelley Rivas on behalf of the housing authority.

4:10:18

Also, I'd like to echo all of Mr.

4:10:20

Shishon's comments.

4:10:21

Thank you so much to the City Attorney's Office and Community Development with working on with us on these applications.

4:10:28

It was a long process and we have appreciate everything that they've done.

4:10:32

I do think because there are no other competitors that letters of support for all three projects um is appropriate, and I request that the council consider that.

4:10:42

Thank you.

4:10:43

Thank you.

4:10:44

Representative Canales.

4:10:47

Thank you, Mayor.

4:10:48

Uh I'll speak one more time to say that.

4:10:50

I I have heard the housing authorities request and have kind of wrestled with the thought over the last couple of weeks because we did very deliberately set a scoring threshold and a floor for receiving each of the levels of support.

4:11:06

Um Eastide Crossing scored highly but not quite above the threshold for for the the highest level of support.

4:11:16

And so you know, I I I do I do understand the request to want to maximize the amount of dollars coming to us, but also this is the first year that we have a new policy in place and it feels like uh it is maybe important to set the precedent that we will support projects in accordance with that that policy.

4:11:38

Um so um I I I'm as as much as I uh really believe in the housing authorities applications, I'm inclined to uh leave the recommendation as is.

4:11:50

That's why I made the motion as I made it.

4:11:53

Um I hope that we can still be successful in all three projects.

4:11:58

I understand that there's potential difficulty because of you know how the funding breaks down with the state.

4:12:02

But um I I just think it's it's good precedent to say that we are going to evaluate the applications that come in uh in accordance with the policy and then stick to the uh the recommendations that come out of that policy.

4:12:19

Thank you, Mayor.

4:12:21

Representative Lamont.

4:12:24

Thank you, Mayor.

4:12:25

I I'm I'm disappointed that we wouldn't offer letters of support to all the three projects.

4:12:30

Um I certainly would um have made that recommendation.

4:12:37

I just had a chance to to hear Satish give his remarks at his retirement event.

4:12:46

And he clearly stated that when you look at housing projects in other cities, you label them as ghettos or slums.

4:12:54

But you look at El Paso, and we don't have that.

4:12:57

And we don't have that, thanks to the work that Satish and Jerry and all the people have done, always looking.

4:13:04

Jerry is always looking for every dollar that he can put and that he can invest in public housing.

4:13:10

I've had a chance to drive through uh the Kennedy Estates within the last two weeks, Kennedy Estates and and the Alamito area.

4:13:19

And that was last night.

4:13:20

I was driving with my husband, and I said, just look at this.

4:13:23

What does this feel like?

4:13:25

And he said it feels like a community.

4:13:28

It feels like a neighborhood.

4:13:30

This is not a slum.

4:13:32

And that's the kind of work that they've been able to do and focus it within our city and focus it for the good of the people.

4:13:41

So if it passes the way it passes, just know that I fully support, fully support the work of of home.

4:13:48

And thank you, Jerry, Satish, and and Shelley and all the group for all the work that you have done.

4:13:54

Thank you.

4:13:55

Representative Acevedo.

4:13:57

Thank you, Mayor.

4:13:58

I just wanted to really commend you and your team, Nicole.

4:14:01

I really appreciate everything you've been doing throughout this.

4:14:03

I know that getting to this year was a little rocky, and the council decided to move it like a week, and then we came back and then we give you direction, and then you got to work pretty much the next day.

4:14:18

And I also really appreciate that you acknowledge that this was the first year that you were doing this and that it wasn't gonna be the smoothest rollout.

4:14:28

And you went above and beyond to make sure that you could make it as smooth as possible for the people that were applying this year.

4:14:34

So I just wanted to put that out there.

4:14:36

I I wanted to ask you about this.

4:14:39

Um I I understand how we got to two letters of support and no objection, and I'm also one that will respect processes and but also we also see that this was the first year was like the trial.

4:14:51

This has also probably been like the least dramatic year when it comes to these credits, because I feel like every year that I've been here, it's always a very dramatic way of getting to a final vote on this.

4:15:04

So there's something to say about that as well.

4:15:06

But can you speak a little bit?

4:15:08

And I'm sorry if I'm putting you on the spot on this potential for 36 million to 40 million over 10 years, and how choosing between the three instead of just two would kind of put us on a map in terms of housing and more housing.

4:15:25

Yes, and and I'll also invite Jerry to come speak after me uh because he's very familiar with this process.

4:15:32

So the the we compete in a region.

4:15:34

So you'll uh if IT will pull up the presentation just for a visual.

4:15:40

We're in region 13.

4:15:42

So typically we we look at ourselves as you know the the big city, the big municipality within this region.

4:15:53

But if we don't recommend the the action would be that we wouldn't have any money coming to this to this region.

4:16:00

So the importance of of setting um the different thresholds and setting everything so that we can make recommendations.

4:16:10

Oh what the consequence would be would be that we wouldn't have any any of these projects coming in our area.

4:16:17

Other outlying communities could submit and if they had those additional points from their city council bodies, they would get those uh additional points and probably that investment would then go elsewhere.

4:16:30

So it's really important that we look at ourselves as uh a growing community making decisions on behalf of the municipality, but that the investment stays within Al Paso.

4:16:42

And so I really commend the housing authority for providing four applications that were within the city's core, and I think that was what the whole intent of us up uh changing the policy was so that we would we would incentivize properties within all eight districts of the city.

4:16:59

Um and so I hope that answers your question.

4:17:02

Um typically what we've seen is that we receive or the city of Al Paso on average gets 2.5 million dollars in 9% tax credit deals, and that gives us about one or two housing projects.

4:17:16

So you Jerry would then have two projects that would go to the housing or would go to the state level to compete in that region.

4:17:25

Okay, and so on this matter specifically, would we be leaving 400,000 dollars on the table that other people in the in region 13 could get?

4:17:36

If the collapse were to happen and that and if those points um you know based off of the points and the ranks in that region 13, uh yes.

4:17:46

Okay.

4:17:48

But then we would be in a better position to try to claim those 400,000 by giving letters of support to all of them.

4:17:57

To bring it to the core of of the city rather than any other place in region 13 as outlined by that map that you showed.

4:18:04

I think that's correct.

4:18:06

Okay.

4:18:06

Yes, and just to clarify on what was the decider of what the difference between East Side Crossings 2 and Cielo Towers to was the points within the GIS system.

4:18:21

So I have uh a visual here.

4:18:26

I'll compare it with CLO Towers 2.

4:18:29

The the circle radius represents one point one quarter mile.

4:18:33

I'm sorry, a quarter mile from the selected development.

4:18:38

You'll see within that quarter mile, there are those community services that give additional points.

4:18:45

If I go to East Sides Crossings too, they only receive five points for a community service located within that within that quarter mile.

4:18:54

And so that's the difference is is the services located within that quarter mile.

4:19:00

And so based off of that, the policy renders uh staff to only provide the recommendation of a no objection at this time.

4:19:09

Okay.

4:19:10

Thank you, Nicole.

4:19:11

Jerry, did you want to say something?

4:19:15

I was I was not going to talk about the the policy specifically, but I think it's inherent to to address it.

4:19:21

For example, as we I think we would need to take a look at the policy over the next 12 months before come back to you.

4:19:26

Uh East Side Crossing is an elderly.

4:19:29

Does it really matter if it's within a quarter mile of the school?

4:19:33

Um Eastside Crossing is within one stop of a of a brand new hospital on 375.

4:19:39

Uh but it got no points.

4:19:40

It's an all or nothing, right?

4:19:41

Very, very rarely do you find something that's that close uh to health care.

4:19:45

It's directly across the street from a sprouts and a super target, right?

4:19:49

But it's not within that quarter mile, so it gets zero points.

4:19:52

And I think you know, the policy, while while good is not perfect.

4:19:57

And so I I would respectfully ask that, you know, this community is a great one.

4:20:01

I mean, we have a community right there, uh, contiguous with land.

4:20:04

Uh and these are six percent AMI families, right?

4:20:07

These are families that are are not 30 percent or lower AMI, uh, who can kind of get around.

4:20:13

And so we we want to maximize the money to El Pass.

4:20:16

We want to maximize the number of units.

4:20:18

The number of units that we have the most demand for is the one bedrooms, which is exactly what we're trying to build here.

4:20:23

Uh so um respectfully we ask that uh that we receive that letter of support uh and then have a chance to work on that policy so that as as we move through it, uh we can look at it um holistically uh with each particular type of community that you are trying to build.

4:20:37

Thank you, Jerry.

4:20:38

Um and you know uh with any policy there's always unintended consequences, and there's always room for improvement, and I'm sure that we could have that conversation throughout this year for the next year to see how we can make this policy better.

4:20:51

I I think for me, the the great discussion that we're having over this is that all projects here are pretty much all quality, right?

4:21:00

There there were a little um little difference in the the point system, but in other years I've recalled that we're like, well, the closest grocery store is a Walmart, and that's like a mile away or two miles away.

4:21:13

And at least in this position, we have really great projects that all have amenities within walking distance or where they're located.

4:21:21

So I appreciate that and I'll I'll leave it there for now.

4:21:24

Thank you.

4:21:24

Thank you.

4:21:25

Representative Lemon.

4:21:30

Mayor, I'd like to amend the motion.

4:21:34

Um I'd like to amend the motion to offer resolutions of support to all three proposals.

4:21:43

Okay.

4:21:44

There's a motion to amend this item.

4:21:47

Is there a second?

4:21:49

Second.

4:21:50

Okay.

4:21:52

There's a motion and a second, Ms.

4:21:53

Pryne to amend it.

4:21:55

Item number 50?

4:21:56

Yes, Mayor.

4:21:57

Or letters of support.

4:21:58

The motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, and this is to amend the motion.

4:22:06

And this is the amendment would be to also issue a resolution of support to east crossings too.

4:22:13

Yep.

4:22:14

And Representative Chavez.

4:22:16

Thank you, Mayor.

4:22:16

And thank you, Nicole.

4:22:18

I think you did an excellent job in putting this policy together.

4:22:21

The reason why I seconded this motion is because I wanted to talk a little bit more about what Jerry was just explaining.

4:22:27

And I know that there's probably great reason behind choosing that quarter mile, but I've also come to know that it's a little bit uh more stringent than what the Texas uh law says.

4:22:38

So could you maybe differentiate between those two things and maybe uh the reason why you chose a quarter mile and not a mile or anything in between that?

4:22:46

Yes.

4:22:46

Uh so locally we adopted the quarter mile radius.

4:22:50

Um quarter mile is best practice for walking distance.

4:22:55

Mr.

4:22:56

Cishon uh he referenced that this property is for seniors.

4:23:01

I think when we look for the best practice for all, we're looking at a quarter mile being three three bucks, 15 minutes, uh an accessible route to get there.

4:23:13

Um so that's why we've adopted it.

4:23:15

It is uh a different adoption than what is allocated at the state level.

4:23:20

The state has different um different thresholds.

4:23:25

Thresholds or or uh distances based off of the service.

4:23:30

We're simply saying quarter mile and then those services located within that quarter mile.

4:23:36

Right.

4:23:36

And and I'm not trying to question your your reasoning behind those decisions.

4:23:41

I think that they're great, and obviously I think the closer you are to all to all of those amenities, it's best, right, for people that are gonna be living in these areas.

4:23:51

Um I think in just this unique circumstance, I was willing to to second that motion because of of the type of housing that's going to be placed there, which is going to be senior housing and the explanations he just said.

4:24:03

So in no way I want you to think that I'm questioning your reasoning behind your policy, because I think it's a good policy.

4:24:08

So thank you.

4:24:10

Representative.

4:24:11

Thank you, Nicole, for briefing me and also Jerry for meeting with me.

4:24:15

Um when we adopted the new policy, we mentioned that it was a work in progress.

4:24:20

It's a work, uh a document that's a life right.

4:24:23

Um we mentioned about Sunmaturicing that you know, essentially in District 5, we were going to have a different process when it comes to accessibility to public transportation.

4:24:32

Um as soon as, for example, when Sun Metro Rising comes up and and it's live, how soon does the mapping in the GIS system get updated?

4:24:44

Do we know that yet?

4:24:46

We would I think we can update that annually when we place the request for municipal resolutions.

4:24:53

I think that would be the target.

4:24:55

Okay.

4:25:00

That's great to know, just because I know that we mentioned that it was a limited document, and oftentimes there might be different projects or other things that are in the area that essentially even the applicant could advocate for and could help them in their scoring process, right?

4:25:09

Yes.

4:25:09

Okay.

4:25:10

Um, I'm I'm also supportive in regards to giving a letter of support for all the or uh applications as well.

4:25:17

I know that District 5 itself is not very walkable.

4:25:22

So even if you're trying to access a grocery store or anything, uh it would be a challenge.

4:25:28

But I know that we're working on a lot of different measures, such as Sunmaturizing to make it more accessible to different community members.

4:25:34

Um but I just wanted to it rear read where we're visiting the policy throughout the year, and we'll make sure that the different advocacy from the different council members comes into place because at the end of the day, we also are very familiar with our districts and the challenges that might come forward from it.

4:25:49

Um but thank you for all your work and for coming forward with us.

4:25:52

Thank you.

4:25:53

All right, thank you.

4:25:53

Hearing no further discussion on this one, Ms.

4:25:55

Prime.

4:25:56

Okay, the motion is on the amendment made by Representative Limon, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, and this is to amend the motion to also issue a resolution of support to east site crossings too on that motion.

4:26:10

Call for the vote.

4:26:15

And the voting session.

4:26:17

And the motion passes 521.

4:26:19

Representative Carnale is voting nay.

4:26:21

The remainder of council voting aye.

4:26:24

The motion does carry.

4:26:25

Okay.

4:26:26

And then we need to take a second action on the question.

4:26:30

Yeah, on number 50.

4:26:32

Yep.

4:26:36

Back on the main motion, and this will be made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative Nino, and this is to issue resolutions of support to all three to Sierra Cielo Towers 2, East Side Crossings 2, and Siesta Garden.

4:26:51

On that motion as revised.

4:26:55

Call for the vote.

4:27:03

The motion is to approve resolutions of support for all three projects, Cielo Towers 2, Eastide Crossings 2, and Siesta Garden.

4:27:13

In the voting session, and that motion passes unanimously.

4:27:17

Okay.

4:27:19

Item 51.

4:27:20

Yes, sir.

4:27:21

Item 51 is discussion and action that the mayor of the city of El Paso, Texas, be authorized to sign a resolution acknowledging that Cielo Towers 2 is located in a census tract that has more than 20 percent housing tax credit units per total households.

4:27:37

Move to approve.

4:27:38

Okay, there's a motion to approve.

4:27:41

There's presentation on this one?

4:27:45

No presentation?

4:27:46

No presentation.

4:27:47

This was a companion item that the housing authority assessed to place.

4:27:50

Any discussion on this item, Council?

4:27:53

Are you hearing none seeing that, Ms.

4:27:55

Prime?

4:27:56

Call for the vote?

4:27:56

Yes, sir.

4:27:57

The motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative Limo and this is to approve item 51.

4:28:04

On that motion, call for the vote.

4:28:07

And the voting session.

4:28:08

And that motion passes unanimously.

4:28:11

All right, Council, if there's no objection, can we move to agenda item number 34 since the public's been here most of the day?

4:28:19

No objection?

4:28:20

Okay.

4:28:20

Ms.

4:28:20

Prime, we're going to take item number 34.

4:28:23

Yes, sir.

4:28:24

Yes.

4:28:25

Item 34.

4:28:27

Is discussion and action to direct the city manager in collaboration with a city attorney to develop a plan of action to prevent the installation of any immigration customs enforcement ice detention facilities in the city.

4:28:40

Additionally, to collaborate with the County of El Paso and El Paso Water to support this measure.

4:28:45

This item was posted by Representatives Limon and Canales.

4:28:50

Okay.

4:28:52

No worries.

4:28:53

Representative Lemont.

4:28:57

Thank you, Mayor.

4:29:00

Mayor, we place this item on the agenda because of the importance.

4:29:03

And we have had so many people here today that have voiced their concern and who really have come forth and have decided that this is an important thing.

4:29:14

I could sit here for 10 minutes and I'm not going to do it.

4:29:17

The voice of the people is much more powerful in my esteem.

4:29:22

But I will do want to paraphrase Joanne Bernard's comments that she directed to us today.

4:29:27

She said it is in my opinion that saying that the city has no role in immigration enforcement is simply an insufficient answer.

4:29:37

It may be true that we don't have the authority to unilaterally stop detention facilities.

4:29:45

But it is true that we have it is not true that we have no power to rise together to oppose detention facilities, to do it politically, to do it morally, and to take every legal action that we can in unison with other jurisdictions to unite and oppose this facility.

4:30:08

The county has already made some decisions.

4:30:11

They gave us a news release earlier that we received.

4:30:50

But right now these facilities are not the proposed facility in our area is proposed and it reads Clint Slash Socorro.

4:30:59

El Paso in parentheses.

4:31:02

So while El Paso water utilities is not the venue to put a complete stop to this kind of facility going in our area, we know that they bring a lot of institutional knowledge, and that combining them with our two areas of expertise, the city manager and our attorney, that we can set forth and have a policy that we can come together, we can produce that's gonna say loudly and clearly, I you're not welcome in the city of El Paso.

4:31:33

And that is my motion today, Mayor.

4:31:40

All right, we have a motion.

4:31:41

Is there a second?

4:31:42

Second.

4:31:42

Okay.

4:31:43

Representative Rocha.

4:31:47

Thank you, Mayor.

4:31:48

I appreciate it.

4:31:49

And and thank you, Ms.

4:31:50

Limon or Rep Lemon, for for bringing this in Rep Canales.

4:32:03

In my opinion, there is not a facility that is currently planned within the City of El Paso at all.

4:32:10

Or future plans.

4:32:12

And while I support this measure, I feel that including El Paso water to it could potentially come, but asking them to be part of it to support the measure is where I feel there has to be some type of delineation for that.

4:32:30

I am in full support of directing the city manager and collaborating with the city attorney and the county.

4:32:36

However, bringing in El Paso water to a situation that would support it, I think would need to take proper steps with maybe the PSB instead of El Paso Water directing it.

4:32:50

That's my understanding as far as how that would work.

4:32:54

And I don't know if Renee can if that would be even open to it at this point, if you all will allow me to do that.

4:33:08

Good afternoon.

4:33:09

Good afternoon, Council.

4:33:10

Thank you, Representative Rocha.

4:33:12

Yes.

4:33:13

Can you state your name and everything for the record?

4:33:17

We're happy to advise and answer questions for the council on anything related to water service within our service area.

4:33:26

But respectfully, you know, we would request to be removed from any item supporting this or anything outside of what we're able to do.

4:33:35

If the council moves in this direction, we're happy to continue to advise to provide information to guide.

4:33:42

But if we could be removed from any item that says supporting this, it would just be a good policy decision from a water perspective.

4:33:49

Thank you, Rennie.

4:33:50

I appreciate it.

4:33:51

And and so I just want to want to be clear.

4:33:53

I you know first acknowledging that we have had so many people come and I am so proud to see so many El Pasuans come and exercise your right to speak in front of counsel and to uh to continue to peacefully protest within within those rights.

4:34:13

I think we are all affected humanity in general by this conversation that we're that we're going through or these situations that are happening right now.

4:34:26

Many of these immigrants come seeking safety, stability, opportunity.

4:34:32

And first and foremost, I want to be able to to again restate I support the measure.

4:34:38

I am just making a motion to amend the actual um language to remove and El Paso water from it.

4:34:49

There's a motion, is there a second for the amendment?

4:34:56

There's a motion and a second.

4:34:58

Any discussion on the amendment?

4:35:02

Okay, Represent Canales.

4:35:04

I just think the legislative intent is maybe important to clarify here.

4:35:22

And so I don't I don't think anyone is saying that El Paso Water is if the council passes this position, El Paso Water is taking a position in support of anything.

4:35:31

It's uh we're the council, the city would be calling on El Paso Water to provide again supportive help in that they provide information.

4:35:40

Sure.

4:35:40

And I understand that.

4:35:41

Uh and again, we're happy to provide anything information wise and help guide policy in any way we can.

4:35:47

Uh but we do want to make it clear based on state law, based on federal law, we really have no ability to deny service to to any facility within our CCN.

4:35:58

Yeah, and I don't think there's any intent to ask El Paso Water to deny service to anyone.

4:36:02

Um, speaking for you as well, I know we placed this together.

4:36:10

Um the intention was not to ask for that at all.

4:36:12

It was more that uh El Paso Water uh is also you know a uh a steward, a trustee of quite a lot of land uh that is city owned, and so um you know we could potentially have questions about city owned property uh that's in the the PSB El Paso Water inventory.

4:36:30

Yes, that was more of the reason behind the inclusion.

4:36:33

And I know we had this conversation yesterday, but just for the benefit of the rest of the council from a land use perspective, you know, we also are limited in our options in denying land sales to the federal government for a facility like this.

4:36:46

Um ultimately the land sales do come to council for final approval, but the federal government still has the power of eminent domain, and if we're to deny a sale, uh they could move forward using that authority and simply take the land and offer us a fair market value for it.

4:37:03

Yeah, and ultimately uh land use regulation authority lies with the with the council for any land, not just city owned land or land in the PSV PSB inventory.

4:37:12

Yes, yeah.

4:37:13

Thank you.

4:37:14

Okay, Representative Rocha?

4:37:17

You wanna you're good?

4:37:20

Okay, so we have a uh amendment, Ms.

4:37:22

Bryan.

4:37:23

Is there any further discussion on the amendment?

4:37:27

And Ms.

4:37:27

Prime, can you read that back for the record?

4:37:30

Yes, sir.

4:37:30

So the amendment is it was made by Representative Maldonado Rocha, seconded by Mayor Pro Tim Chavez, and this is to strike out the words El Paso water on the on the motion.

4:37:44

Is that to is that to strike out just El Paso Water?

4:37:48

Yes, yes.

4:37:51

And El Paso water.

4:37:52

And and El Paso water.

4:37:55

This is to strike out and El Paso water from the motion.

4:37:59

Okay.

4:37:59

Any further discussion?

4:38:01

Okay, Ms.

4:38:02

Bryan call for the vote on the amendment, please.

4:38:04

On that motion, call for the vote.

4:38:06

This is on the amendment.

4:38:13

Mayor, there's a tie.

4:38:17

Thank you.

4:38:17

And the voting session.

4:38:19

And the motion passes four to three.

4:38:22

Representatives Chavez Rocha Nino.

4:38:24

Mayor Johnson voting aye.

4:38:26

Representative Acevedo Limon Canales voting the amendment does carry.

4:38:31

Okay.

4:38:31

We're back on the main motion.

4:38:36

Representative Canales.

4:38:39

Thank you, Mayor.

4:38:40

Um I I won't take my whole time.

4:38:43

I will soapbox for just a minute.

4:38:45

Okay.

4:38:45

Uh there are so many things that I want to say about ICE and the actions of the federal government over the past year.

4:38:53

I could go on for the whole 20 minutes.

4:38:54

I'll mostly spare you all of that.

4:38:57

Um, but so many times over the the recent months I've sat in my house or I've sat here in my office and really seethed um so many of the speakers who we heard from this morning have said so much of what I want to say, and so I I appreciate their their boldness.

4:39:16

Um but I'll endeavor to keep my comments specifically to the action that we're we're considering here today for the most part.

4:39:24

Uh unquestionably the the really extreme escalation from the federal government that we've seen across the country over the last year has not been normal.

4:39:34

Um really, really far from normal.

4:39:37

And I I won't equivocate.

4:39:39

I think recent deaths at Camp East Montana, uh not located in the city of El Paso, but on the military installation of Fort Bliss are really unacceptable.

4:39:51

And at best they've they've represented what I think is really terrible gross negligence and I mean at worst they are murders.

4:40:00

In Minneapolis, multiple people have been brutally killed in the streets by masked agents of the federal government.

4:40:08

Renee Good was murdered on video.

4:40:10

Alex Predy was murdered on video.

4:40:13

I think at this point, pretty much everyone in the room has seen those videos.

4:40:18

And I, like so many other people across the whole country and really around the world, I think, have looked on in horror and anger and shame and disgust.

4:40:30

But unfortunately, not quite in disbelief.

4:40:35

But this isn't something that's just happening far away.

4:40:38

There's been so much direct impact in our community as well.

4:40:42

The recent raids of construction job sites in Horizon City, for example, have targeted local workers.

4:40:51

Federal agents have been detaining people, including sometimes U.S.

4:40:55

citizens over whom they have no authority throughout El Paso, but particularly in some neighborhoods in my district in Segundo Barrio, historically known as the Ellis Island of the US Mexico border, and in other Southside neighborhoods in District 8, like Chihuahuita and Barrio Chamizal, all of these actions have me worried that ICE may look to continue to increase their physical presence here within El Paso city limits.

4:41:25

And I know that the media has reported on a proposed warehouse facility in El Paso County, but not within the city limits.

4:41:34

That's a literal existing warehouse facility for people.

4:41:39

Concentrating people in a confined space, I think there's a name for that.

4:41:45

But the federal government's warehouse plan seems to still be kind of in a state of flux, as some of their purported contractors seem to be backing out.

4:41:58

So if there's a plan for them to pivot and relocate, if that has to happen, I think it's important to be clear.

4:42:08

And so it's important for us.

4:42:23

Should they seek to locate that or any other facilities within the city of El Paso city limits?

4:42:29

And we we can't afford to be surprised and reactive if that happens.

4:42:35

We need to be prepared and proactive.

4:42:38

And I've I've seen some criticism that this that we're asking the council to consider today is somehow looking to violate the supremacy clause of the Constitution.

4:42:47

Uh this isn't that at all.

4:42:49

And I think that argument reflects a pretty low-level understanding of government.

4:42:56

While the U.S.

4:42:58

Constitution is, yes, the quote supreme law of the land, it in no way grants the federal government the authority to do whatever it wants whenever it wants.

4:43:08

To the contrary, the the federal government, in through the Constitution, reserves itself specific powers and everything else is left to the states.

4:43:17

For example, in Texas, home rural municipalities, cities like El Paso have zoning authority, the ability to regulate land use.

4:43:26

We have the authority to regulate building safety and other life safety issues.

4:43:31

We have permitting authority and the authority to require and carry out uh inspections to enforce all those other authorities.

4:43:42

And these specific tools may or may not be effective in this scenario, but we won't know that unless we study and plan and do the work that we need to do in order to understand uh what's available to us.

4:43:56

So the direction to carry out that work is what we're asking the council to approve today.

4:44:00

Uh it's not any specific ban or anything like that.

4:44:04

That probably is beyond our authority.

4:44:07

But we need to do the work to understand uh what we have available to us.

4:44:13

Um I'll say my opinion is very clear.

4:44:18

I don't want ICE in El Paso, and frankly, ICE shouldn't exist at all.

4:44:29

But that said, to those who who don't agree with me, I I offer this.

4:44:34

Even if you support ICE and what they're doing, the terror that they're inflicting on American cities, surely you don't want the clashes in the streets that we've seen in Minneapolis, in Los Angeles and Chicago, and in cities all across the country.

4:44:49

Um, even if you don't care about this as a humanitarian issue, you can hopefully understand that things like the additional police presence uh will cost all of us in public funds and the economic disruption that those uh activities cause will harm El Pasuans and El Paso businesses.

4:45:07

There are there are practical reasons, not just ideological ones to oppose ICE expanding their their detention operations here in El Paso.

4:45:17

And finally, I think cooperation with one another is is of vital importance.

4:45:22

This item specifically calls out uh the El Paso County government who uh has passed uh a similar resolution yesterday.

4:45:32

Uh but there are others who I think we should cooperate with.

4:45:35

Our neighboring municipalities in Socorro and San Elisario and Anthony and many others, uh local organizations who can be helpful in our efforts, and of course, all the people of El Paso.

4:45:47

Uh your participation here today is I think one step in a much longer march to to true justice and and peace for for our community.

4:45:56

And so thank you to all the public speakers who spoke this morning.

4:45:59

It was very important that you were here.

4:46:01

Uh council, I I urge you all to support this proposal today.

4:46:06

I think we have a responsibility to the people of El Paso who we represent to be prepared to face uh a scenario that probably once was, definitely once was, but is no longer that far-fetched that the federal government could seek to open a human warehousing facility in our city.

4:46:24

And I see no way in which that would be beneficial to the people of El Paso.

4:46:29

Uh, council, I I urge you to support today.

4:46:32

Thank you, Mayor.

4:46:33

Thank you, Representative Canales.

4:46:34

Representative uh Acevedo.

4:46:37

Thank you, Mayor.

4:46:38

I really appreciate everyone being here.

4:46:40

Really echo a lot of what my colleagues are saying and a lot of what people have been saying throughout the morning into the afternoon.

4:46:47

You know, I I think we're at a place in our country that is something that we don't recognize, or at least I don't recognize.

4:46:57

And I always talk to constituents.

4:46:59

I've had different meetings with uh different organizations, just kind of talking through a lot of this, and we we've been looking at a lot of video, right?

4:47:11

It's 2026, and we are seeing footage on social media, and everybody is making their own opinion about what they're seeing or what they're not seeing.

4:47:22

But what's true is that there's been several deaths that have come at the hands of ICE.

4:47:31

Two of them specifically in in Minneapolis over the last few weeks, and those deaths have come to U.S.

4:47:37

citizens.

4:47:39

And if you look at the history of what ICE is, it started almost 23 years ago.

4:47:45

March 1st, 2026, it'll be the anniversary of ICE.

4:47:50

And two things can be true at the same time.

4:47:55

We can have a good community like El Paso with great public safety, with a lot of our police and fire doing a lot of that work to make us the safe city that we are.

4:48:08

And we can also say that ICE is not doing a great job, and really we don't need them in any of our communities because they are not here to do what they were set out to do 23 years ago.

4:48:19

They're also really young.

4:48:20

I mean, if we look at it, they they could kind of drink now two years into it, right?

4:48:25

At the legal age of 21.

4:48:28

But they're doing this, and I think we kind of see a lot of this as there's a sense of, you know, we want to be anonymous.

4:48:36

We're we're probably doing some horrible things, but we want to be anonymous and we want to wear masks everywhere that we go.

4:48:41

There hasn't really been any accountability from the federal level.

4:48:46

There's always importance that these governing bodies that we have at the local, state, and federal level provide accountability.

4:48:53

That accountability is really lacking at this point.

4:48:56

Um there have been some removals of some people in response to a lot of the protests that have been happening throughout Minneapolis, but it's still not enough of a uh accountability.

4:49:06

We've all seen the images of Liam.

4:49:08

That has really really struck a nerve with me with a lot of different people.

4:49:12

You know, just a child with I think it was bunny ears, and having a congressman from Texas really help bring him back home.

4:49:21

It's a five-year-old.

4:49:22

Like, what is a five-year-old supposed to be doing?

4:49:24

Just having fun and learning things and reading and having that new trauma will be with him for the rest of his life, probably, and we need to think about that.

4:49:35

And so, as we've been having these conversations, there's been specific asks that the community has talked to me about, and I think we all kind of know what we're limited on in terms of what we can do at the city level or even at the county level, and the county has acknowledged that as well.

4:49:53

They had action yesterday on uh moving forward with exploring different options.

4:50:00

So I I think for me, when we consume information, the better we're informed, the more data that we have, the better decisions we could make, or at least try to do something within the confines of our own authority.

4:50:14

Um so I wanted to um propose an amendment to the language at hand to add to it, not to change it, but more add to it.

4:50:24

And this is based on the conversations that I've been having with community members.

4:50:31

Um so wanna add an amendment that adds the following to the end of what's on the item.

4:50:38

Further direct the city manager and city attorney to research and look into the following and report back within 60 days.

4:50:45

One, create and present a protocol that prevents federal law enforcement officers from entering any city facility with the intention to search, detain, or arrest a person without assigned judicial warrant.

4:50:56

Two, explore moratorium on permitting zoning and licensing for immigration and customs enforcement facilities, and three, produce a report that details all points of cooperation between the city of El Paso and immigrations and custom enforcement.

4:51:10

And I've just sent that over to Ms.

4:51:12

Prime.

4:51:13

Um if you could share that with the council, Ms.

4:51:15

Prime.

4:51:26

All right, we have an amendment to the motion.

4:51:29

Is there a second?

4:51:35

All right, second.

4:51:38

Okay, there's a second from Representative Limon.

4:51:42

And Ms.

4:51:43

Um Neiman, is this something you can advise us on?

4:51:46

Whether or not we can deny what's that?

4:51:51

The federal language.

4:51:53

Yeah.

4:51:53

Can you read that back to us, please?

4:51:56

Yes, sir.

4:51:56

The motion the amendment says further direct the city manager and city attorney to research and look into the following and report back within 60 days to create and present a protocol that prevents federal law enforcement officers from entering any city facility with the intention to search, detain or arrest a person without a signed judicial warrant.

4:52:17

Explore a moratorium on permitting zoning and licensing for immigration and customs enforcement facilities.

4:52:24

Produce a report that details all points of cooperation between the City of Al Paso and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

4:52:32

Okay.

4:52:33

So we have a motion and a second uh Ms.

4:52:35

Neiman.

4:52:36

Can you advise on the federal part of this?

4:52:38

To the extent that you can?

4:52:40

So mayor, traditionally these items are put on the agenda by council members.

4:52:46

We don't do any legal research or provide any backup in regards to the council's policy direction.

4:52:52

Once we receive full direction from the council, then we'll come back with a recommendation.

4:52:56

I I'm not prepared to give you a legal opinion on whatever action the council may or may not take today.

4:53:02

Okay.

4:53:03

Representative Chavez, did you want to speak on this amendment?

4:53:07

Any discussion on the representative canalis?

4:53:10

Just a little bit of a clarification.

4:53:12

The first part of it says to research and look into, correct?

4:53:18

And then it says create on the first bullet point and on the third, it has another imperative.

4:53:27

Is it just to research and look into the creation of those documents?

4:53:31

I I think the thought is we might be limited legal, legally, and if we give them the direction to look into this, they could tell us what we can and can't do with that.

4:53:40

Okay.

4:53:40

So it is just to research and look into all three of those items not directing the creation of those.

4:53:46

Yeah.

4:53:46

And then I I think we could take action or not at some later date.

4:53:50

Some later day in 60 days.

4:53:51

I was always going to make sure I think that the answer to that helps to clarify the you know pending question about legal advice.

4:53:58

Yeah, I thought it was a creation.

4:54:00

Okay.

4:54:00

Thank you.

4:54:01

Any further discussion on this amendment?

4:54:04

Representative uh Brocha.

4:54:07

Thank you, Mayor.

4:54:08

Uh Ms.

4:54:08

Neiman, is it reasonable to come back with that type of information within 60 days?

4:54:18

From from the from the legal side, we can provide you some information within 60 days.

4:54:22

I will also defer to Ms.

4:54:24

Mack in terms of any other operational requests that the policy direction will take.

4:54:30

I will defer to her if she needs more than that.

4:54:33

Thank you.

4:54:54

Thank you.

4:54:55

Okay.

4:54:57

Any further discussion on the amendment?

4:55:01

Okay.

4:55:02

Ms.

4:55:02

Bryan, call for the vote, please.

4:55:04

Yes, sir.

4:55:05

The motion was made by Representative Acevedo, seconded by Representative Limon, and this is to amend the language on item 34 to add the words further direct the city manager and city attorney to research and look into the following and report back within 60 days.

4:55:21

Number one, create and present a protocol that prevents federal law enforcement officers from entering any city facility with the intention to search, detain, or arrest a person without a signed judicial warrant.

4:55:33

Number two, explore a moratorium or on permitting zoning and licensing for immigration and customs enforcement facilities.

4:55:41

And number three, produce a report that details all points of cooperation between the City of El Paso and immigration and customs enforcement.

4:55:49

Okay.

4:55:50

On the amendment.

4:55:51

Call for the vote.

4:55:52

Call for the vote.

4:55:58

And the voting session.

4:56:00

And the motion passes unanimously.

4:56:02

Okay.

4:56:08

All right, back on the main motion, Representative Chavez.

4:56:12

Thank you, Mayor.

4:56:13

And I want to start by thanking everyone who uh came forward today who spoke, who signed up for public comment, who are still in the room right now, who have waited all day for this agenda item to come forward, and who emailed my office.

4:56:27

I've I've read all those emails and I want to thank you for taking the time to send those.

4:56:32

I want to uh say that this uh item before us is further uh more than just an immigration debate.

4:56:40

It is a discussion about public trust, public safety, and our responsibility to govern within the law while protecting the long-term stability of the city.

4:56:50

I want to be clear.

4:56:52

I strongly support our police department and the men and women who serve our community every day, upholding the law, respecting due process, and honoring the Constitution are not competing values.

4:57:05

They are inseparable.

4:57:06

Our local officers succeed because they rely on cooperation, communication, and trust, not fear, and they deserve our full support.

4:57:17

As leaders in a border city, we must also acknowledge the reality that some members of our community are fearful, particularly when it comes to federal immigration enforcement.

4:57:28

Whether we agree with the fear or not, it exists.

4:57:32

And when trust erodes, people hesitate to report crimes, cooperate with law enforcement, or seek help.

4:57:40

That makes our entire community less safe.

4:57:45

Maintaining a clear distinction between local law enforcement and federal immigration enforcement matters.

4:57:51

Cities function best when roles are clear.

4:57:54

Expectations are predictable, and residents understand what their local government is responsible for and what it is not.

4:58:03

Public safety depends on trust.

4:58:06

And I'm going to repeat that because I firmly believe it.

4:58:09

Public safety depends on trust, and trust depends on clarity.

4:58:14

There's also an economic dimension we cannot ignore.

4:58:18

The decisions we make as a city shape how El Paso is perceived by families, by business owners, employers, and investors.

4:58:26

Economic confidence is not just about large projects or outside capital.

4:58:31

It is about whether families feel secure working, shopping, and building their lives here.

4:58:37

This conversation is not about ideology.

4:58:40

It is about stewardship.

4:58:42

My responsibility as a council member is to ask the hard questions, ensure clarity, and protect the long-term trust and stability of the city.

4:58:50

As council members, our duty is to represent the full community, to support law enforcement, to acknowledge concerns being raised by residents, and to carefully weigh how our decisions affect both public safety and economic opportunity.

4:59:06

That balance matters and it deserves thoughtful consideration.

4:59:10

So thank you once again for being here, and thank you to this council for having this conversation today.

4:59:16

Thank you, Mayor.

4:59:17

Represent Nino.

4:59:19

Thank you, Mayor.

4:59:20

And thank you, Rep Limoan and Gonales, for bringing this forward.

4:59:23

It's an extremely important conversation that I mean it's clear by all the members of our community who are here today.

4:59:30

And I don't think anyone wants any detention center in their yard.

4:59:35

It brings uncertainty.

4:59:37

It brings a lot of concerns.

4:59:39

You know, um, Campis Montana is about five minutes away from District 5.

4:59:43

Uh it's outside of the city limits, but um a lot of my constituents have reached out to me just in general about you know safety, presence.

4:59:51

Um I know there's also been helicopters that have flown at four or five in the morning that has disrupted sleep and they wonder if our community is safe, but our community is and continues to be safe.

5:00:04

So um I'm very grateful that we're having this conversation.

5:00:08

And overall it it clarified a lot of what our my colleagues were talking about and also what you all mentioned about working with a for a plan of action.

5:00:17

We're not adopting a specific policy at this time.

5:00:20

Rather, we're gonna look at all the different avenues and opportunities that we have as a body to in the future look into what is it that we could adopt to uh reflect the voices of our constituents and of our community.

5:00:32

And again, I want to thank everyone who took time off work, school, from their busy lives for being here.

5:00:38

You know, this is what we're elected to do to to listen to the tough conversations and ensure that you know we reflect your voice whenever we make these decisions.

5:00:48

So thank you again for being here and thank you.

5:00:51

Thank you, Mayor.

5:00:52

Representative Limon.

5:00:54

Mayor, I'd like to speak, but after the the public speaks.

5:00:59

Okay.

5:01:00

So Ms.

5:01:00

Pryan, we have uh Representative Rocha.

5:01:04

Thank you, Mayor.

5:01:05

And I and I started a little bit earlier in in my statements before the water piece, but again, I I want to acknowledge that the humanity of everyone that's affected by this conversation is something that is deeply important to me.

5:01:20

I'm a first generation American.

5:01:22

My father uh lived here illegally for many years.

5:01:27

And immigrants come, they are the fabric of our community.

5:01:32

They absolutely are.

5:01:34

They are the ones that deserve to be treated with dignity and compassion.

5:01:40

But I also want to say, and this may sound like it's counter to it, that we do have the ICE officers that are local, and while I understand that there's a lot of disdain for these officers and what they're doing, there's a lot of them that live among us.

5:01:56

And a lot of them whose children go to school with my child.

5:02:00

And a lot of them whose wives go to church or their families go to church with us.

5:02:05

And they are living fearful as well.

5:02:08

And I think it's very it needs to be very cautious for us to put all of them into one group.

5:02:16

And I know that's sometimes very difficult.

5:02:19

You know, Pope Leo says that countries have a right to manage borders.

5:02:23

The treatment of people must always respect their inherent dignity.

5:02:28

And there may be people that need to come to um, I guess, some type of legal um ramifications for their actions, but I also believe that those families are living in fear as well.

5:02:46

It's important to be honest about the role of city council.

5:02:50

I want to be absolutely clear, we do not have unilateral authority to stop a federal agency from building a facility.

5:02:58

What we do have to what Rep Canalis uh mentioned earlier is responsibility over city processes, over land use, over infrastructure, and coordination with our local partners.

5:03:14

This is not about assigning blame or devaluing any group in this particular item as how I've read it.

5:03:20

It does direct the city manager and the city attorney to identify those lawful tools that are available to us and to work with the county so that decisions of this magnitude are approached thoughtfully, transparently, and with community impact in mind.

5:03:36

We can always lead with compassion for immigrants, respect for the families who serve in all forms of law enforcement, and a commitment to responsible governance.

5:03:46

I will, and as I mentioned, support this item.

5:03:50

I just want to make sure that that um that I put those pieces of my comments into the record, Ms.

5:03:57

Prime.

5:03:58

Thank you.

5:03:59

Thank you.

5:04:00

And Ms.

5:04:00

Prime, before we have the public comment, I'm just gonna say just a few words.

5:04:04

But first I want to thank uh Representative Canales and Representative Limon for putting this on the agenda.

5:04:12

And I also want to echo uh the city council, and I'm gonna give Ms.

5:04:15

Limon the last words on when we're all done wrapping up after public comment.

5:04:19

But I also want to thank you, El Paso, for for speaking out to protect your community.

5:04:25

Very, very well done.

5:04:27

And as I said earlier, no one wants this in our community, nor do we want to be known as the detention capital of the U.S.

5:04:37

or even the world.

5:04:39

And you know, for far too long, even when I was campaigning, El Paso gets a bad narrative.

5:04:44

We get a bad rap.

5:04:45

And in the national media, when they talk about detention facilities, they're not gonna say Fort Bliss, they're gonna say El Paso.

5:05:00

And we are a very loving, we are very warm, we are a very compassionate community, and we will always treat people that are here in El Paso with dignity and respect.

5:05:06

So again, I applaud you, El Paso, for coming out today and protecting your community.

5:05:12

You did a very, very well good job today, so thank you guys so much.

5:05:16

And with that said, we are gonna take some public comment.

5:05:19

Yes, Mayor, we'll begin with Carmelo Bralick.

5:05:22

Ray Lake.

5:05:27

Followed by Creo Sodi Hughesby.

5:05:34

Josephine Avila, Linda Chu.

5:05:37

Good afternoon, good afternoon.

5:05:42

Good afternoon, Mayor Johnson and City Council members.

5:05:45

My name is Carmelo Brolik, and I'm a constituent of District 8, speaking in support of agenda item number 34.

5:05:53

I'd like to thank representatives Canales and Limon for bringing this measure forward.

5:06:00

I want the city to prevent the expansion of ICE detention facilities.

5:06:04

The actions of ICE are inhumane and unjust.

5:06:07

An increased ICE present presence is severely detrimental to public safety and to our economy.

5:06:14

We've already seen the negative impacts increased ICE presence has on small businesses in other parts of the country.

5:06:21

According to the Lake Street Council, a nonprofit that supports small businesses in the Lake Street neighborhood in Minneapolis.

5:06:28

Small businesses are experiencing a 40 to 100% drop in revenue compared to last winter.

5:06:34

It's also estimated that 50% of immigrant-owned businesses have temporarily or permanently closed since December.

5:06:42

Workers and consumers, including legal residents and U.S.

5:06:45

citizens, fear for their safety with ICE present.

5:06:49

They are unable to work and shop comfortably.

5:06:52

Small business owners are struggling to stay afloat with the loss of staff and patrons.

5:06:56

El Paso's economy is strong because of small and immigrant-owned businesses.

5:07:01

We deserve to feel safe in public spaces and feel confident in our ability to support local businesses.

5:07:06

I know you, Mayor Johnson, ran on a platform to do its best for our locally owned business.

5:07:12

Instead of investing in ICE detention facilities, I want investment in community priorities for public safety.

5:07:19

I encourage the city to invest in employment programs, affordable housing, small business support, education, health services, and the myriad of other avenues that will actually help our community and our economy thrive.

5:07:44

Thank you.

5:07:45

Thank you so much.

5:07:50

Followed by Jocelyn Avila, Linda Chu, Erica.

5:07:58

Good afternoon.

5:07:59

Good afternoon.

5:08:02

Good afternoon, Mayor Johnson and City Council members.

5:08:05

My name is Creosote Hughesby, and I'm a constituent of Chris Canales in District 8.

5:08:10

I came to speak here today in favor of agenda item number 34.

5:08:14

First, I'd like to thank representatives Canales and Limon for bringing this measure forward.

5:08:27

ICE activity has long been a danger to our community.

5:08:30

We've already seen a callous lack of regard for life from the agency here in El Paso over the 22 years of its existence.

5:08:38

They abduct our loved ones, they kill and torture with impunity, and they endanger everyone around them while doing it.

5:08:44

Others have called attention to those murdered in custody within our community.

5:08:48

I'd also like to recognize that ICE and Border Patrol agents regularly injure and kill our community members just through their reckless driving alone.

5:08:56

They are a threat to public safety across the board.

5:09:37

This measure is a directive to our city manager, Dion Mack and our city attorney, Carla Neamon.

5:09:42

We need to keep our attention on them to make sure the detector to make sure the directive is followed, especially considering the federal government has shown nothing but contempt for local governance and is likely to apply pressure.

5:09:55

We need them to look at any possible legal avenue to limit ICE's presence here.

5:10:00

We need to keep showing up, keep our city leaders accountable, and keep pushing for more.

5:10:04

Thank you.

5:10:06

Next speaker is Jocelyn Avila.

5:10:10

She will be followed by Linda Chu.

5:10:12

Good afternoon.

5:10:13

Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

5:10:15

I'm Jocelyn Avila and I am a district for constituents.

5:10:19

I'd like to begin by thanking representatives Chris Canales and Liling Moon for leveraging your elected official status and power to bring forth this piece of legislation.

5:10:31

ICE must be held accountable for denying both U.S.

5:10:35

citizens and non-citizens due process on our on our soil as the freest country in the world, racially profiling people on the streets, and even murdering innocent people in broad daylight.

5:10:45

This is un American, and while it does not fall under your jurisdiction, right to hold them accountable, you can do what you can do.

5:10:54

And that is meeting the moment and taking action in any and all appropriate capacity.

5:10:59

In this moment in history, you have the choice to take this bold action because Al Pasuans are watching, our families are watching.

5:11:07

Quite frankly, the whole world is watching, and we can't welcome ICE, who's being held unaccountable and acting like a rogue organization, terrorizing our communities.

5:11:19

We can welcome them right in to use our scarce water resources and electricity while can further terrorizing our neighborhoods.

5:11:28

So please support item 34.

5:11:31

And lastly, I just want to thank everyone who's here who waited all day long to provide this comment.

5:11:37

You are the voice for those who couldn't be present today.

5:11:39

Thank you.

5:11:40

Thank you.

5:11:42

Linda Chu.

5:11:46

She will be followed by Erica Heise.

5:11:49

Good afternoon.

5:11:51

Good afternoon, Mayor, City Council.

5:11:55

Thank you, Miss Representative Lamone and Canales for bringing this forward.

5:12:00

You have heard your constituents, many today, and there are many more that couldn't make it.

5:12:09

And I will say that we are doing what we can.

5:12:15

Your constituents, our community, we are doing everything we are we can to resist these prison camps.

5:12:33

We are holding rallies, vigils.

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We are writing and calling our state and federal representatives.

5:12:44

We are appearing at places like city council and county commissioners.

5:12:50

But today, now we need our leaders also to speak up and to stand up for this community.

5:13:11

Assuming that you approve this item, and I hope you approve this item.

5:13:17

I will leave you with the words as I did at Commissioner's Court from Joachim Prince.

5:13:24

Joachim Prince was a rabbi in the Jewish community in Berlin during Hitler's regime.

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And on March of 1963, alongside at the March for America, he said these words.

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He said, you know, I learned many important things during that tragic time.

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The most important thing I learned was that bigotry and hatred are not the most important problem, the most urgent problem.

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The most urgent, the most disgraceful, the most shameful, the most tragic problem is silence.

5:14:13

I urge you not to be silent.

5:14:17

Thank you.

5:14:18

Thank you.

5:14:19

The next speaker is Erica Heise, followed by Robert Vines.

5:14:27

Good afternoon.

5:14:29

Yes, good afternoon.

5:14:30

Thank you for having me speak.

5:14:32

My name is Erica Heisey.

5:14:34

And I'm here as a representative of Indivisible the 915.

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ICE violates human rights.

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There are already reports of abuse and deaths at existing ICE facilities here in El Paso, particularly at Camp East Montana, the largest immigration detention center in the U.S.

5:14:54

Three detainees have died at that facility since December, with at least one death ruled a homicide by the county coroner.

5:15:02

The ACLU and other human rights groups have documented inhumane conditions, including beatings, sexual abuse, lack of medical care, and hunger among detainees at El Paso area ice centers.

5:15:21

I'm sure this is not what you want your legacy in El Paso to reflect.

5:15:27

You have an obligation to uphold moral and community values.

5:15:32

Detention centers are inconsistent with El Paso's identity as a compassionate immigrant-founded city.

5:15:42

As contended by Representative Limon, El Paso was built by immigrants and should not support facilities that represent the opposite of our community's values.

5:15:56

Please do not make detention part of El Paso's legacy and reputation.

5:16:03

Consider the environmental and resource impacts this proposed facility would have on our county.

5:16:09

El Paso has recently experienced major water system failures and shortages.

5:16:32

ICE has displayed secrecy and limited oversight by local officials.

5:16:38

It can't beast Montana.

5:16:40

What are they hiding?

5:16:43

We must not host this massive detention center.

5:16:48

Consider the economic and social consequences.

5:16:52

Expanding detention centers does not bring sustainable local jobs or economic benefits to our county.

5:16:59

These centers are often run by out-of-state contractors or private prison companies with poor labor practices.

5:17:18

San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City, and Seattle have all enacted measures to prohibit ICE detention facilities.

5:17:31

El Paso can do the same.

5:17:32

Thank you.

5:17:33

Thank you.

5:17:35

Robert Vines.

5:17:37

Followed by Alexis Rodriguez Wesley Lawrence.

5:17:41

Good afternoon.

5:17:42

Good afternoon.

5:17:44

I'm Robert Vines, and uh something you said, Mayor, uh struck a chord with me, which is that I'm mostly German.

5:17:53

My gr uh German grandmother once said that uh there was a really nice little town down from where she lived called Auschwitz.

5:18:05

And she said that uh and and today it's not known for a pretty little town at all.

5:18:13

It has ruined their reputation, and you're talking about what our reputation could be.

5:18:19

She said that most of the normal Germans at that time just looked the other way and didn't speak up, didn't say anything.

5:18:30

We can't make that mistake.

5:18:32

We can't make that mistake.

5:18:35

When the FBI rolled up all the numbers of the uh crime in the U.S.

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From all the police departments, they found that an immigrant was far less likely to commit a crime than a U.S.

5:18:52

citizen.

5:18:54

El Paso is 82% Hispanic, and a lot of them are immigrants, which is undoubtedly one of the contributors, or maybe the main contributors to the fact that we're often rated this as the top uh safest city in the country.

5:19:13

We have lots of immigrants, makes cities safer.

5:19:17

I had a neighbor the other day tell me that uh a friend of his ask him to borrow a gun.

5:19:27

And he said that uh the friend mentioned that he used to have a business in Juarez, and uh he had to pay protection to the local cartel, and they kept going up one up and he got to where he couldn't pay, and he they said, We're gonna kill one of your kids if you don't pay, and he couldn't and didn't pay, and they killed his youngest son.

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He came to El Paso with the rest of his family, and now he has a reasonably good business here in El Paso.

5:20:00

But he said, if they come and get me and send me back, I'll be killed, but not before significant torture.

5:20:05

And so he said, if they come for me, I'll kill myself.

5:20:11

Uh people often say, the people that are doing this often say we're Christians just following the law.

5:20:22

Christ was crucified because he didn't follow the law.

5:20:28

Where would we be today if he didn't follow the law?

5:20:33

If he did follow the law.

5:20:44

Thank you.

5:20:44

Alexis Rodriguez.

5:20:50

Alexis Rodriguez.

5:20:54

No, Alexis Rodriguez, Wesley Lawrence.

5:20:59

He's not in the queue.

5:21:02

Um Charlotte Weiss.

5:21:07

Followed by Ellen Lizaraga.

5:21:19

Good afternoon.

5:21:21

Good afternoon.

5:21:24

My name is Charlotte Weiss, and I'm a staff attorney at Texas Civil Rights Project and a constituent of District 8.

5:21:32

Thank you, Representative Ganales and Representative Limon for your advocacy and your leadership on this important issue.

5:21:40

I speak today on behalf of Texas Civil Rights Project.

5:21:44

I support Item 34, and I urge the city to do the same.

5:21:50

We cannot have more ICE detention facilities in this city because the most recently opened facility, Fort Bliss's Camp East Montana, is a humanitarian disaster.

5:22:03

For the last four months, I have gone weekly to Fort Bliss to speak with detained individuals and document the abuses they face there.

5:22:13

Each week I meet with individuals who are given meals the size of a fist, and whose meals cause them to experience vomiting and diarrhea.

5:22:25

Each week I meet with individuals who are asking for medical attention for weeks and still haven't seen a doctor.

5:22:33

Each week I speak with individuals who are beaten, including when they ask for basic necessities such as prescription medication and adequate food.

5:22:45

Most concerningly, there have been three deaths in the span of 42 days at Camp East Montana.

5:22:53

These individuals who have died are Francisco Gaspard, Cristóbal Andres, Geraldo Lunas Campos, and Victor Manuel Diaz.

5:23:13

For months, the government has known of the abuses at Fort Bliss and has refused to improve the conditions.

5:23:21

If the government cannot take care of individuals in its custody, how can we expect them to act any differently with a proposed warehouse facility that is almost double the size of Camp East Montana?

5:23:36

The proposed development of any additional ICE detention facility will only perpetuate the abuses that we know happen daily at Fort Bliss.

5:23:47

I call on the city to approve item 34 and prevent the installation of any further ice detention facility in this city.

5:23:57

Item 34 stops the bleeding of the abuses already happening in our city, and it honors the legacy of our city as one that recognizes the humanity and the dignity of immigrants in our community.

5:24:12

Thank you.

5:24:13

Thank you.

5:24:16

Ellen Lizarraga.

5:24:21

We will be followed by Patricia Osman.

5:24:25

Good afternoon, Mayor.

5:24:26

Good afternoon, Council.

5:24:28

My name is Haran Lisa Raga.

5:24:29

I'm here on behalf of the hundreds of families that are organized under the Border Network for Human Rights.

5:24:35

Today I want to thank Representative Canales and Representative Limon for their leadership, and all of you for um you know listening to us most of the day.

5:24:44

Um today I want to remind you that we are in a defining moment for our city and for our nation.

5:24:50

As our country continues to watch the cruelty of current immigration enforcement policies in the abusive treatment of communities by eyes across the nation.

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Dignity, family unity, safety, and respect for human rights.

5:25:08

El Paso is known nationally as a welcoming and resilient border community.

5:25:13

Expanding detention infrastructure moves us away from that identity and towards complicity and harm.

5:25:19

Today's item matters because the city is now powerless.

5:25:23

Through land use decisions, infrastructure, utilities, and intergovernmental cooperation, El Paso has real leverage to either enable detention expansion or to stop it.

5:25:35

Item 34 is about clearly stating where the city stands and how it will act within its authority.

5:25:43

As a community organization that works to bridge the gaps between residents and local institutions, including law enforcement, we are especially concerned about the erosional community trust.

5:25:55

When families see mass agents operating operating with impunity, fear grows.

5:26:00

And we're when fear grows, people stop calling 9-11.

5:26:04

Witnesses disappear and public safety suffers.

5:26:08

Allowing the expansion of another detention facility puts that trust at a even greater risk.

5:26:14

Delay also carries consequences.

5:26:17

Every month or every day without clear action, create space for detention plans to move forward quietly without public accountability.

5:26:25

So today we're also asking you for accountability in this process.

5:26:30

We're asking you for a clear timeline with an initial report back to council and an opportunity for public comment.

5:26:38

Today this council has an opportunity to draw a clear line that El Paso will not be complicit in the detention expansion, and that y'all will use every possible tool to protect our community.

5:26:56

Thank you.

5:26:57

Patricia Osman.

5:27:01

Followed by Fernanda Lugo.

5:27:06

Everybody has spoken about the immigrants.

5:27:24

I I want to say you may be misled.

5:27:30

Because one, ICE and Border Patrol are not abiding by the United States Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land.

5:27:56

These immigrants are not criminals.

5:27:59

But they're their federal government that they're listening to in certain media is pushing it out.

5:28:07

Illegal?

5:28:08

That doesn't mean they're criminals.

5:28:11

That means it's a civil issue.

5:28:14

Are we killing people that are applying for bankruptcy?

5:28:17

Because that's also a federal administrative issue.

5:28:20

I don't think so.

5:28:23

But perhaps we should also ask this.

5:28:27

City council members, residents.

5:28:31

It's already well documented.

5:28:33

There have been murders.

5:28:35

There's a murder.

5:28:36

In our own community.

5:28:40

Over there off of Montana on Fort Bliss.

5:28:44

Where's the investigation?

5:28:46

Where are the arrests?

5:28:48

Those are murderers.

5:28:50

If there were a group of five gang bangers that did the same thing to somebody in San Ecinto Plaza, there would have been investigations and arrests.

5:29:01

So where are those murderers arrested?

5:29:05

How about the sexual predators that are committing all these sexual assaults?

5:29:11

Where why are they not arrested?

5:29:15

How about we think about those criminals that are employed by our federal government with our tax dollars, murders and sexual predators in our own neighborhoods going back into our neighborhoods, right?

5:29:32

Their children going to our schools.

5:29:35

Where are they?

5:29:36

We don't know, right?

5:29:38

But those are murderers and sexual predators, or maybe, hey, you know what?

5:29:43

It does affect El Paso in other ways.

5:29:46

There's a BDSM.

5:29:48

Sexual prostitution is sexual in sexual assault.

5:29:54

The sexual deviance that are occurring, those employees, you don't think that's connected?

5:30:00

It is.

5:30:04

In the willows.

5:30:05

I had to go out of the city out of state law enforcement to get that one in Willows shut down because local didn't.

5:30:16

Why is the local police not investigating these murders?

5:30:20

Is it because it's Fort Bliss?

5:30:22

Because those are civilians.

5:30:24

They're not enlisted.

5:30:28

It doesn't make sense.

5:30:29

Please, please let the public know.

5:30:32

Out of our safety, why those crimes committed by those people are not being investigated.

5:30:39

But you will call the immigrants the criminals for a civil offense.

5:30:45

Thank you.

5:30:45

Thank you for not shutting me off.

5:30:47

The next speaker is Fernanda Lugo.

5:30:53

Fernanda Lugo.

5:30:57

Isabella Correa.

5:31:00

Isabella Correa.

5:31:06

Amber Williams.

5:31:19

Good afternoon.

5:31:20

Hello, good afternoon.

5:31:22

My name is Amber Williams.

5:31:23

I am a constituent of District 4, and I'm here to support item 34.

5:31:28

I click, I misclicked this morning.

5:31:31

But before I start, I want to say ICE agents should be scared.

5:31:35

Let's be clear, they choose to take on those jobs and not speak out against murder every day.

5:31:41

They choose every day to follow unlawful orders.

5:31:44

And the sad reality is the moment they unmask and remove the badge, they'd be targeted on the street just like the ones that they choose to terrorize and get paid for.

5:31:55

I'm here to stand with my community and demand that new concentration camps not be created.

5:32:01

I want to make something clear.

5:32:07

But unfortunately, in 2026, here we are.

5:32:37

Demand transparency and accountability.

5:32:40

El Paso has always shown us what cross-border community can look like.

5:32:44

Our community should be leading with solutions to amend the very systems that thrive on dehumanization instead of contributing to the terrorization of our neighbors.

5:32:55

We are not powerless.

5:32:56

And I ask that you draw a line now.

5:32:58

Do not allow the creation of another concentration camp.

5:33:01

Don't let concentration camps become El Paso's legacy.

5:33:05

Please, no more cages and no more expanding cruelty.

5:33:08

Thank you.

5:33:09

Thank you.

5:33:10

Vodimar Pogas Claus House.

5:33:18

My name is Lorimar Torres Rosas, and I'm a constituent of District 8.

5:33:22

Thank you to Representatives Limon and Canales for this motion.

5:33:27

I am struggling to obtain a Master of Arts in Clinical Counseling online at Northwestern University.

5:33:32

Alumni of Bassett and Canyon Hills Middle School, Burgess High School, and UTEP, as an artist, activist, and poet, I ask you to support agenda item 34 and explore further options to limit the city of El Paso's operation with ICE.

5:33:45

I want to reiterate the position of hundreds of community members in opposition of allowing the expansion of concentration camps in the El Paso and Juarez community that I have called home since I was nine years old.

5:33:57

My Puerto Rican immigrant mother is a lieutenant colonel in the US Army, and she earned a bronze medal in Afghanistan because no one died under her direct command.

5:34:08

And as she taught me in the wisdom of the Number trials, just following orders is not a valid defense for committing a war crime.

5:34:16

When orders come that violate the law, a soldier's uniform duty is to disobey.

5:34:21

How will you use the power that you have been given?

5:34:24

Three people have died already, and countless children, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, hardworking community members have been traumatized, taken from their homes and families.

5:34:33

The Montana concentration camp holds 5,000 humans where reports of their rights being violated are coming out every other day.

5:34:40

This new expansion aims to hold 8,500.

5:34:44

How many more lives will you take for short-term capital profit?

5:34:48

How many more war crimes will you allow to be committed on your own people?

5:34:52

We deserve a government that reflects our community's values.

5:34:55

We support our fellow immigrants and call for you to say no and end all concentration camps and abolish ice.

5:35:02

If you want to open a new facility, how about you start with a mental health facility to address the impact of hate crimes and acts of domestic terrorism?

5:35:10

We continue to fight or fund the salaries of more counselors and social workers for our schools to deal with this trauma and fear that our children face every day.

5:35:19

If you do not act, just know that our voices and community action will only grow stronger and louder together.

5:35:26

And as we chanted, when Cata Sochi was released from her inhumane detention, brick by brick, wall by wall, one by one, we will free them all.

5:35:38

And now I just kind of want to directly address you specifically, Alejandra.

5:35:43

You sat up there and defended law enforcement.

5:35:46

And I just want to say that that's kind of a slap in the face to all of the people that are held in detention right now.

5:35:54

The people that are starving.

5:35:56

I wonder in your district, District 1, probably the most one of the most affluent districts, right?

5:36:02

Do you eat food that's soiled?

5:36:05

Do you have to worry about where your kids are going to go to school?

5:36:09

Um do you have to worry about any of those things?

5:36:13

No.

5:36:14

And your education and your privilege affords you the right to have multicultural awareness, especially growing up here in El Paso.

5:36:23

And you are a display.

5:36:24

The next speaker is Victoria Labrado.

5:36:34

Yes, hi.

5:36:35

Hello, good afternoon.

5:36:39

Can you can you hear me?

5:36:40

Victoria Labrado.

5:36:43

Yes, ma'am.

5:36:44

Can you hear me?

5:36:44

Yes, ma'am.

5:36:45

Go ahead.

5:36:46

You have three minutes, please.

5:36:47

Okay, thank you.

5:36:48

Good afternoon.

5:36:49

Okay.

5:36:50

Um I call before you today to voice my deepest concern and to stand in solidarity with those who have been silenced.

5:37:00

I am here to be their voice and say clearly why Al Casco must support item 34 and not build another detention camp.

5:37:08

Sorry about that.

5:37:09

The irony is not lost on me.

5:37:12

I wrote these words in a heated home with clean clothes while my daughter sleeps peacefully in her bed without fear of what the night would bring or what awaits her in the morning.

5:37:23

Because while my child sleeps in peace, other children are locked behind fences, separated from their families, living in fear right now.

5:37:32

And it fills me with outrage and pain to know that children and families are suffering in these camps while we live in comfort and safety.

5:37:40

What makes my child more deserving of safety than theirs?

5:37:44

What makes my family more worthy of protection?

5:37:47

Is it a document?

5:37:48

A border, a piece of paper?

5:37:50

Because it is not humanity.

5:37:52

We all leave red, we all feel pain.

5:37:54

Migration is survival.

5:37:56

And every other species on this planet understands that humans are the only ones who criminalize it.

5:38:03

What happened to El Paso Strong?

5:38:05

What happened to a community that came together to protect and uplift our brothers and sisters?

5:38:11

We are a city claimed to be built on love, not hate.

5:38:14

And yet these camps are fueled by cruelty, fear, and dehumanization.

5:38:18

Where is the justice for our fellow human beings?

5:38:21

People are disappearing from our streets, lost in a system that treats them as though they never existed, as though they never had stories, families, or dreams, just like you and me.

5:38:30

Unity is not optional.

5:38:32

It is necessary.

5:38:33

And humanity is not conditional.

5:38:35

So I ask you, where does your humanity lie?

5:38:38

Would your inner child be proud of the choices you're defending today?

5:38:41

Is this the legacy you want to leave behind?

5:38:44

Cages, silence, and cruelty.

5:38:46

To see the world through the eyes of a child is something many have forgotten.

5:38:49

Why?

5:38:50

Because of places like these camps, places filled with fear, violence, sexual assault, abuse, and death happening right here in our own backyard.

5:38:59

And history will remember who spoke up and who lived away.

5:39:02

We have a moral obligation to protect our fellow men, women, and especially children.

5:39:08

As Nelson Mandela said, our children are our greatest treasure.

5:39:12

They are our future.

5:39:13

Those who abuse them tear at the fabric of our society and weaken our nation.

5:39:17

Do not build another camp in our city.

5:39:20

Do not normalize cruelty.

5:39:22

Do not call injustice security.

5:39:24

Let us choose humanity, let us choose compassion, and let us refuse to build systems that thrive on suffering.

5:39:30

Thank you.

5:39:34

That concludes public comment on this item.

5:39:36

All right, Miss Prime, I just want to make sure that there's no one in the audience that wanted to speak that signed up and we may have missed anybody.

5:39:45

Did everyone get in that?

5:39:46

Okay.

5:39:49

Okay.

5:39:57

I just wanted to say a vote.

5:40:00

Come on up.

5:40:01

And give us your name, please.

5:40:04

Okay.

5:40:05

Really quickly.

5:40:06

A vote against the nice detention facility.

5:40:09

You are encouraging violence in your address us.

5:40:13

Well, you can't speak for us.

5:40:15

No, no.

5:40:15

Because you only speak here.

5:40:17

So you want to speak for the community?

5:40:18

You speak for the other side.

5:40:20

You're speaking and you're pandering here.

5:40:22

Sir, sir, you need to follow the follow the rules of order.

5:40:26

Slippery slope.

5:40:28

Slippery slope.

5:40:30

All right.

5:40:30

So that concludes public comment.

5:40:32

Representative Canales.

5:40:37

Thank you, Mayor.

5:40:38

Without objection, I'd like to without objection, I'd like to request that a transcript of my comments on the main motion be included in the written record of the meeting.

5:40:48

No objection.

5:40:48

Thank you.

5:40:49

All right, we're going to get the last words to Representative Limon, please.

5:40:55

Mayor, this has been one incredible meeting.

5:41:05

To come to the realization and the beauty of our citizens and our city.

5:41:12

You stated from the very beginning, the most thoughtful words that we could have.

5:41:17

We've had lots of discussion open to the public.

5:41:25

And so many beautiful messages have come about.

5:41:35

And Judge Chu.

5:41:38

I personally am going to make sure that I have a transcript of every single one of these comments.

5:41:47

Because there was so much power in this room today.

5:41:54

I think that while we do not all agree, and while there are areas that you know Al Paso water, police, this was not about police, it was about ICE.

5:42:08

Disgruntled gentlemen.

5:42:10

I think we can come down to one basic thing.

5:42:13

And the item is on the agenda so that we as a city can take control of our narrative.

5:42:19

We don't want others to write our story.

5:42:23

And we make the best decisions for our constituents.

5:42:33

We can't turn our back until this government understands, values, and respects the rights of all the people in our country.

5:42:45

Until that day, we must be vigilant.

5:42:48

And we are El Paso, a city of immigrants.

5:42:51

We stand for the humane treatment and respect of all our people.

5:42:55

And thank you for allowing me to speak and for having this item on the agenda today.

5:42:59

Thank you very much.

5:43:00

Thank you, Ms.

5:43:01

Lamont.

5:43:02

Call for the vote.

5:43:04

Okay.

5:43:06

Ms.

5:43:06

Prime, we had a motion and a second, and we received all the public comment.

5:43:10

Can we please call for the vote?

5:43:11

Yes, sir.

5:43:12

And so the motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Representative Canales, and this is to direct the city manager in collaboration with the city attorney to develop a plan of action to prevent the installation of any immigration customs enforcement ice detention facilities in the city.

5:43:29

Additionally, to collaborate with the county of El Paso to support this measure.

5:43:33

Further, direct the city manager and city attorney to research and look into the following and report back within 60 days.

5:43:39

Number one, create and present a protocol that prevents federal law enforcement officers from entering any city facility with the intention to search, detain, or arrest a person without a signed judicial warrant.

5:43:51

Number two, explore a moratorium on permitting zoning and licensing for immigration and custom enforcement facilities.

5:43:58

And number three, produce a report that details all points of cooperation between the City of Al Paso and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

5:44:06

On that motion.

5:44:31

So with that objection, Miss Representative Lamont, please.

5:44:35

Mayor.

5:44:36

We have been here since nine o'clock in the morning.

5:44:39

You and Representative Canales and I have sat at our chairs this long.

5:44:44

I'm I move that we break into recess for a minimum of 30 minutes, but an hour would be better if we could have lunch as well.

5:44:55

We have an item specifically scheduled for four.

5:45:00

You want to come up with the case.

5:45:00

Okay, so we'll be back at four.

5:45:02

So recess till four.

5:45:03

That was a motion.

5:45:05

Is there a second?

5:45:07

Hang on, real quick.

5:45:08

Representative Chavez.

5:45:11

I I'm also very hungry, Representative Lamont, but uh Renee Leon has been in the audience all day.

5:45:16

Um is it possible for us to see item 31 so that he could leave for the day or or would that be too much to us?

5:45:24

Let's vote on the the lunch first.

5:45:26

Okay.

5:45:26

So we have a motion and a second.

5:45:29

There's a motion and a second to recess the council.

5:45:32

For one hour.

5:45:33

Until four o'clock for one hour until four o'clock.

5:45:36

All in favor?

5:45:38

Aye.

5:45:41

All in favor?

5:45:42

Anyone opposed?

5:45:44

Thanks.

5:45:46

I'll do roll call.

5:45:47

Representative Chavez.

5:45:49

Acevedo?

5:45:50

No.

5:45:52

Rocha?

5:45:52

Okay.

5:45:53

No.

5:45:54

Limon?

5:45:55

No.

5:45:56

Canales.

5:45:57

No.

5:45:57

And the motion fails.

5:45:59

Okay.

5:45:59

Okay.

5:46:00

So let's take item one item number?

5:46:03

30 31.

5:46:05

Mayor?

5:46:06

Yes.

5:46:06

Representative Limon.

5:46:09

Okay.

5:46:10

Representative Lamont.

5:46:13

Mayor I'd like to make it.

5:46:17

Mayor, what item are we going to?

5:46:18

Hang on, hang on.

5:46:18

Let me catch up with you guys.

5:46:19

Hang on.

5:46:20

Give me one second.

5:46:24

We're going to take item number 30.

5:46:29

31.

5:46:30

Hang on.

5:46:31

Item 31.

5:46:32

Yeah, I was so excited on lunch.

5:46:34

I lost where I was.

5:46:35

I know.

5:46:36

31.

5:46:37

Thank you.

5:46:37

Item 31 is discussion in action on a resolution to appoint a member to the El Paso Water Utilities Public Service Board of Trustees in the area of expertise of consumer or citizen advocacy as rec recommended by the El Paso Water Utilities Public Service Board Selection Committee.

5:46:53

Okay.

5:46:53

Now I have Representative Nino Limon and Canalis on here.

5:46:56

Who was this before or after Nino?

5:46:59

Representative.

5:47:00

I would like to make a motion to appoint Stephanie Block Uribati.

5:47:04

Second.

5:47:06

Okay, there's a motion and a second to appoint Stephanie Block Uribati.

5:47:13

Yes to the PSB board.

5:47:15

Okay.

5:47:15

Representative Lima.

5:47:17

Did you no come?

5:47:18

Representative Canales, you're still.

5:47:22

Thank you, Mayor.

5:47:23

I'll say as always, thank you to all the candidates who apply.

5:47:26

I think it's uh it's a big job to serve on the public service board.

5:47:30

It's a lot of investment of time and learning.

5:47:32

And so the citizens who are willing to put themselves forward for that.

5:47:36

Um I have great appreciation for the people who who choose to do that.

5:47:40

Um we appoint a selection committee of citizens who does uh quite a lot of diligence in in interviewing candidates and proposing uh well making their recommendations to the council.

5:47:55

Um in this case, Stephanie Black Udibari ranked first.

5:47:58

And um as you'll hear me say in many cases I'm inclined to follow the recommendations of the committees that we appoint.

5:48:05

It's the whole reason why we put citizens in those chairs to make recommendations to us.

5:48:11

Um really they alleviate a lot of the burden on the city council.

5:48:15

So I'm grateful to the selection committee um and I'm happy to support their their top choice of of Stephanie Black Ud for the position.

5:48:23

Representative Chavez.

5:48:25

Thank you, Mayor, and I just want to say uh thank you to uh the selection committee for bringing these names forward.

5:48:32

I did have an opportunity to interview everyone, and I know that it's always a difficult choice.

5:48:37

It's it's never an easy choice because everybody's very qualified and not only qualified but is willing to step up and serve and learn and be a part of the process, which I think is is so important.

5:48:49

Um but uh my my support for Stephanie is because she's already done the the work these last four years.

5:48:57

Um I've spoken with her at length.

5:48:59

I know that she's motivated to continue doing that work, and she's very knowledgeable and I think prepared for what's to come.

5:49:06

Um I know that you know just recently with the rate increase, she she had an important decision to make along with you, Mayor, and and I really like the way she handled it and how she came to the table very well informed.

5:49:19

Again, it's not an easy decision.

5:49:20

I think all three candidates are very well qualified.

5:49:23

And so um I just want to thank everybody for being engaged in this process.

5:49:28

Thank you.

5:49:28

Representative.

5:49:29

Thank you, Mayor, and I echo what my colleagues said.

5:49:31

I also interviewed all the three candidates, had great conversations with all of them.

5:49:36

They all had very impressive impressive resumes, and I know that they all will do a great job.

5:49:42

I'm also grateful that they all have decided to go through the process, apply, and essentially try to serve our community in this capacity.

5:49:49

Um again, uh my support for Stephanie also relies on the fact that she sat on the board and based on the conversations that we had and taking that difficult vote as well for the community and and in voting against the rate was important for me.

5:50:02

Um and that's my my reasoning for it.

5:50:04

Okay.

5:50:05

And I'll just add that I'm on that committee that selects the uh the candidates, and it was not an easy decision.

5:50:11

I can I can tell you that.

5:50:12

I do want to say though that for the other candidates that did apply, very well qualified.

5:50:18

Any of them could could be in this position.

5:50:21

And I want them to stay encouraged to keep applying and keep trying to be on the PSB because we could always use good talent.

5:50:28

And everyone on this list was very, very, very good.

5:50:31

So it was a tough decision.

5:50:33

It wasn't easy, and uh it was hard to be on the selection committee this year.

5:50:37

So with that said, Ms.

5:50:38

Prime, would you have a We have public comment, Mayor?

5:50:40

We have Ms.

5:50:41

Osmond.

5:50:42

Okay.

5:50:47

I just want to state that when everybody was talking about the water company just recently and the PSB between uh the rate high meetings and so forth.

5:50:58

It was discussed that it was asked, not necessarily by myself, but other citizens to have somebody on the board, and in this case it is consumer and citizen advocacy that that was part of the low-income community, whether it be a citizen or someone like that.

5:51:19

In I'm wondering whether that aspect of it was actually in consideration with any of these that have uh been ranked, or who you most of you uh Stephanie, apparently, because she's been doing it for four years, uh, falls within that category.

5:51:41

So if I could find out whether that whether you all did listen to the community, and if that is the case here, um, because I'd like to find out whether you are actually listening on these appointments, or whatever the citizens say really doesn't matter when you appoint somebody, whether there is consideration for the senior citizens or low income individuals in our community.

5:52:09

So in regards to the qualifications and the low income status.

5:52:18

I'm just curious.

5:52:20

Do any of these three fall within that?

5:52:23

I'm not t I'm not saying tell me whether she is.

5:52:26

I'm saying just generally if either of these three fell within that category.

5:52:34

Thank you.

5:52:35

Thank you.

5:52:36

Representative Chavez.

5:52:39

Thank you, Mayor.

5:52:39

Again, I think uh the the recent meeting is is something that people can go back and view, but I know that Stephanie is very engaged with the community.

5:52:46

Um she is the community advocate on the PSB, and uh she takes that responsibility you know very closely and very highly.

5:52:55

So uh just wanted to give that information.

5:52:57

Thank you.

5:52:59

Is that conclude public comment on this item?

5:53:01

Yes, sir.

5:53:01

Okay.

5:53:02

Ms.

5:53:02

Prime, would you please call for the vote?

5:53:03

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Nino, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, and this is to appoint Stephanie Bloch Uribari to the El Paso Water Utilities Public Service Board of Trustees.

5:53:15

On that motion, call for the vote.

5:53:34

Representative Rocha?

5:53:36

Oh, it's not there.

5:53:37

Oh, thank you.

5:53:38

And the voting session.

5:53:39

I didn't have my classes on the and that motion passes five to one.

5:53:43

Representative Limon voting nay.

5:53:45

The remainder of council voting aye.

5:53:47

The motion does carry.

5:53:49

Okay, are we going to continue?

5:53:51

Are we all right?

5:53:52

Let's take item number 32.

5:53:53

Are we gonna go through the code?

5:53:54

Are we taking a break?

5:53:57

I'd like to make a motion.

5:54:00

I would like to make a motion that we take recess until 4 o'clock this afternoon, please.

5:54:06

We need to get a bathroom break and a lunch.

5:54:08

We have a motion and a second.

5:54:10

All in favor?

5:54:11

Aye.

5:54:12

Anyone opposed?

5:54:13

And the meeting is in recess at 3 09 p.m.

5:54:16

and will reconvene at 4 p.m.

5:54:25

Okay, Ms.

5:54:26

Prime, I think we're ready.

5:54:27

Okay, is Council is there a motion to reconvene?

5:54:30

Second.

5:54:31

There's a motion and a second to reconvene the council meeting.

5:54:34

All in favor?

5:54:35

Anyone opposed?

5:54:37

The meeting is back in session at 4.03 p.m.

5:54:40

Okay, Ms.

5:54:41

Prime, I believe we're going to take item number 53, the one we were supposed to take at four.

5:54:45

Yes, sir.

5:54:45

And this is discussion and action on the appointment of one candidate to fill one municipal court magistrate vacancy.

5:54:51

Five candidates submitted applications, five candidate names were submitted to mayor and city council.

5:55:00

This position serves as judge for cases of involving Class C misdemeanors and as a magistrate for defendants arrested by the El Paso Police Department.

5:55:04

The candidates are Corey A.

5:55:06

Harbour, Elia Garcia, David Alan Rutledge, Lauren Ferris, Oscar Gonzalez.

5:55:13

Good afternoon.

5:55:16

And we're here to request that Mayor and Council interview the applicants that qualified for this position to be interviewed and asking for you to appoint one candidate to fill that position.

5:55:27

Okay.

5:55:28

Representative Canales.

5:55:32

Thank you, Mayor.

5:55:34

Move that we retire into the executive session pursuant to section 551.074 personnel matters.

5:55:40

Okay.

5:55:40

There's a motion and a second.

5:55:43

There's a motion and a second to return to executive session.

5:55:45

All in favor?

5:55:46

Aye.

5:55:46

Aye.

5:55:47

Anyone opposed?

5:55:48

The motion passes.

5:55:49

The city council will retire to executive session at 4.04 p.m.

5:55:54

to interview the five candidates listed on item 53 under 551.074 personnel matters.

5:56:05

Ms.

5:56:06

Bryant, give us a minute to log in here.

5:56:08

Yes, sir.

5:57:12

Okay, Ms.

5:57:12

Bryan, I believe we're ready.

5:57:14

Okay, is there a motion to come out of executive session?

5:57:18

There's a motion and a second to come out of executive session.

5:57:21

All in favor?

5:57:22

Anyone opposed?

5:57:24

The meeting is back in session at 6.08 p.m.

5:57:27

We're on item number 53.

5:57:30

And before Mayor Pro Temp reads that, I just want to thank uh all the candidates that came in today to meet with us.

5:57:36

We really appreciate you taking the time.

5:57:39

And uh all of your very impressive and uh tough decision for us.

5:57:44

But thank you guys for taking the time.

5:57:49

Thank you, Mayor.

5:57:50

Thank you, Ms.

5:57:51

Prime.

5:57:52

I make a motion to appoint Corey A.

5:57:56

Harbor to the municipal court magistrate vacancy.

5:57:59

Second.

5:58:00

All right, Ms.

5:58:00

Prime, we have a motion and a second.

5:58:02

Is there any discussion?

5:58:05

All right, hearing none, seeing none, Ms.

5:58:07

Prime?

5:58:07

Yes, sir.

5:58:08

The motion was made by Mayor Potem Chavez, seconded by Representative Limon, and this is to appoint Corey A.

5:58:13

Harbor to the municipal court magistrate position.

5:58:17

On that motion, call for the vote.

5:58:24

And the voting session.

5:58:26

And that motion passes unanimously.

5:58:28

Okay, thank you.

5:58:29

Congratulations.

5:58:32

Congratulations.

5:58:33

Ms.

5:58:34

Prime, let's take item number 32, please.

5:58:36

Yes, sir.

5:58:39

Item number 32.

5:58:42

Is discussion and action to direct the city attorney that prior to the award of any city contract where the proposed awardee has been involved in or prior or active litigation with a city.

5:58:53

Brief city council on the background and context of such litigation and any other related legal considerations relevant to the proposed contract with such briefing to occur in executive session.

5:59:05

This was placed by Mayor Potem Chavez.

5:59:08

Representative Chavez.

5:59:09

Thank you, Mayor.

5:59:09

And I'd like to make a motion to approve first.

5:59:12

All right, there's a motion and a second.

5:59:13

And then if IT could please pull up the presentation.

5:59:21

Thank you.

5:59:24

Okay, so uh yes, so thank you.

5:59:28

So uh this item was brought forward um and I'd like to talk about the strategic goal.

5:59:34

It's set the stat set set the standard for governance and fiscal management.

5:59:38

Goal, subgoal 6.10, enhance the quality of decision making with legal representation and support.

5:59:44

Next slide, please.

5:59:47

This item is about providing clear direction to our city attorney regarding how city council receives factual background information about the contract awards we are approving after city staff provides their recommendation.

6:00:00

I want to be very clear that the goal here is about transparency.

6:00:03

This is not about relitigating, retaliating, or punishing anyone.

6:00:08

This is about setting expectations so city council decisions are made with a clear objective framework, one in which we have access to all facts related to the case.

6:00:17

Next slide.

6:00:21

The core duty of city council is to protect the city's legal, financial, and operational interests.

6:00:27

When we approve contracts, we are giving the green light for the expenditure of hard-earned taxpayer dollars.

6:00:33

That requires a high level of care, oversight, and accountability.

6:00:38

Part of that oversight is making sure we have the right legal context before we take action.

6:00:43

I believe that when a recommended contract awardee has been involved in litigation with the city, whether ongoing or recent, the context matters.

6:00:52

Having information up front allows council to make a fully informed decision rather than learning the details later and questioning whether all relevant factors were considered at the time of our vote.

6:01:03

This is about informed decision making and not adding barriers or creating a presumption about any vendor.

6:01:10

I believe that good decision making depends on good factual information.

6:01:15

Next slide.

6:01:17

This action establishes a consistent process by requiring a legal briefing when a recommended contract awardee is currently involved or has previously been involved in litigation with the city.

6:01:28

The purpose of this briefing is informational.

6:01:30

It would provide council with a factual background, the context of the litigation, and any relevant legal considerations.

6:01:37

This will ensure that council members are working from the same set of facts when evaluating their vote on contract award.

6:01:43

This briefing would occur in executive session to protect the city attorney client privilege while still ensuring that council has the information we need to exercise our oversight role.

6:01:54

Again, this is about consistency, transparency within the body, and informed decision making, not about disqualifying vendors or revisit or revisiting past disputes.

6:02:06

I want to be very clear about what this item does not do.

6:02:09

It does not prohibit awarding a contract to any vendor, it does not create a presumption for or against any recommended awardee based on litigation history, and it does not promote retaliation or penalize a party for exercising its legal rights.

6:02:23

This is strictly about process and information, not outcomes.

6:02:28

All final action on contracts would continue to occur in open session.

6:02:32

This approach is fully compliant with the Texas Open Meetings Act.

6:02:36

The executive session briefing is limited to Section 551.071 of the Texas Government Code, consultation with attorney.

6:02:44

This is not intended to avoid public accountability, but rather to protect attorney client privilege.

6:02:49

Council remains responsible for making the final decision in public with the benefit of complete and appropriate information.

6:02:58

A few weeks ago, I stated for the record that council receives a monthly report of pending litigation to facilitate compliance with the city's ethics ordinance.

6:03:06

I want to draw a parallel between this standard and this proposal I am bringing forward today.

6:03:11

Our ethics ordinance requires candidates to refuse or return campaign contributions from individuals with a known litigation interest with the city.

6:03:19

Council has an affirmative duty to know about pending litigation before accepting campaign funds.

6:03:25

This proposal applies that same principle to contract awards involving taxpayer dollars.

6:03:30

If council has a duty to be informed about litigation in the campaign finance context, it is reasonable to expect the same level of awareness when approving contracts funded by the public.

6:03:40

Again, this does not prohibit awarding a contract.

6:03:43

It ensures council is informed before making that decision.

6:03:47

There's a difference between just knowing what who has pending litigation litigation against the city of El Paso and understanding why that litigation was brought forward.

6:03:56

In many cases, they could have a very valid reason to have brought forward that litigation.

6:04:03

And this is uh a demonstration of the website that currently exists where people, anybody can access this website to see uh who has uh all litigation against the city of El Paso.

6:04:16

Furthermore, there's the Texas Local Government Code.

6:04:20

This code uh states clearly that contracts must be awarded to either the lowest responsible bidder or the bidder providing the best value to the city in determining the best value.

6:04:30

The statute express expressly allows council to consider a range of factors.

6:04:36

Two of those factors are particularly relevant here: the reputation of the bidder and the bidder's past relationship with the municipality, as you will see is number two, number five.

6:04:47

This proposal does not add new criteria to the procurement process.

6:04:50

It helps council responsibly exercise the discretion that the law under Texas local government code already provides.

6:05:00

And this slide here just shows the code exactly as as you can find it online.

6:05:07

So again, this is the requested action.

6:05:10

I'm going to read it out loud.

6:05:11

Discussion and action to direct the city attorney that prior to the award of any city contract where the proposed awardee has been involved in prior or act of litigation with the city to brief city council on the background and context of such litigation and any other related legal considerations relevant to the proposed contract with such briefing to occur in executive session.

6:05:32

It is my opinion that this uh this will further strengthen our decision making process.

6:05:38

It is a proactive step towards being more transparent and accountable and uh acting in good governance.

6:05:45

I respectfully ask for your consideration of this proposal.

6:05:50

Thank you.

6:05:51

Thank you.

6:05:51

Representative Vassavittle.

6:05:54

Thank you, Mayor.

6:05:55

Um Thank you, Mayor Prozent Chavez, for bringing this to the agenda.

6:06:00

I think this has been a long time coming.

6:06:02

I think this is a really big step towards more transparency, more accountability as city representatives were elected to make sure that we're bringing accountability, that we're asking tough questions, that we're just asking questions in general about everything and anything that is put before us.

6:06:20

And I think this can really strengthen the procurement process at the City of El Paso when it's at the very end when we have to come to a decision as a counsel whether we're going to award a contract to one company or someone else, or the amount, that's always something that I take very seriously when we're doing this.

6:06:41

And then at the same time, I feel that we've been kind of scrambling, or at least I have, to kind of say, well, what is the track record here?

6:06:51

Um do we have any pending litigation and then we're trying to find that as the meeting is going?

6:06:56

I think this really ensures the the step that's missing, and it also gives clear direction to our city attorney to make sure that we are hearing about what's going on before uh making uh a decision on this.

6:07:09

So uh very supportive of this and really appreciate you bringing it to the council.

6:07:14

Representative Canales.

6:07:16

Thank you, Mayor.

6:07:17

Um there's no time limit on these.

6:07:21

Um, you know, in Alpha, we have a lot of local companies that have existed for quite a long time.

6:07:27

Um Ms.

6:07:28

Neiman, do you know how far back we have uh either the active like for example the active litigation reports or records um that are accessible of past uh litigation against the city?

6:07:44

I would have to go back and look at how far we go.

6:07:47

Um I can safely say we probably have about five years worth of litigation going back, and then if anything is still pending, that's a little older than that, right?

6:07:56

But I'd have to go back and look.

6:07:58

I think that what is currently posted on the clerk's page may be a little older than that, but I'd have to check.

6:08:05

Okay.

6:08:05

My concern is that this would create the need for you to conduct pretty significant research on every company that uh we look to contract with to determine if there's some older past litigation.

6:08:22

And I just want to make sure that doing this isn't a burden on your office.

6:08:30

So I wasn't I'm not prepared to have a full-blown discussion with the council.

6:08:34

I was seeking more direction, and then depending on how the vote goes, then we would move forward from there.

6:08:40

But but it what I'm relaying to the council is that from our perspective, we would need to make some other decisions before fully baking this in and deciding what the best way of moving this forward if the council approves this item.

6:08:58

Um asking for to you know direct you to put something together and come back to us.

6:09:04

This would be direction to carry this out immediately, wouldn't it?

6:09:08

Right.

6:09:08

Except that we haven't done any legal research in regards to bidding requirements and how we run through those processes, so we would need to have a conversation about what that looks like, depending on what the council's direction is.

6:09:22

Okay.

6:09:22

Um I think that if we move forward with this, it would make sense to potentially add in an amount of time to look back.

6:09:30

Um I don't know that it makes sense to be looking back 50 years to see if a company has ever had litigation with the city.

6:09:37

If it was 50 years ago, it's probably not the same people there, the same decision makers here or there.

6:09:43

Um and I don't know that that's totally relevant to our decisions.

6:09:45

I think something like uh five-year period or a 10-year period would make sense for uh an amount of time that we would expect the city attorney's office to look back.

6:09:56

Thank you, Mayor.

6:09:57

All right, Representative Chavez.

6:09:58

Thank you, Mayor.

6:10:00

And the the report that we get Representative Canales is goes back to 2016.

6:10:05

There's litigation right now that's pending since 2016.

6:10:08

So that goes back already 10 years.

6:10:25

And those could be for many reasons.

6:10:28

But uh what we're trying to establish here is other information that we that might be relevant prior to awarding a contract.

6:10:37

Um that's why I said not only active but um past litigation, because a company could have uh an active lawsuit right now, and they could have lawsuits in the past, right?

6:10:52

And so there could be a pattern that we might be able to see, even if those lawsuits have been settled or whatever the case might have happened.

6:10:58

That that's why we need not only active lawsuits but past lawsuits to to determine whether there's a pattern or there's there's something else that we need to determine.

6:11:06

Um that we just need to know, right?

6:11:08

It's information versus uh making a decision putting our name on a vote without that context.

6:11:15

So uh I can only tell you that the the litigation report that we received currently goes back 10 years.

6:11:26

Represent Canal.

6:11:27

Yeah, yeah, and again, I think for especially for active litigation, even if that litigation is 10 years old, that makes total sense.

6:11:34

Um my only concern is again the the research burden on the city attorney's office having to look back further and further.

6:11:42

Um especially moving back beyond the uh start of their digital record keeping.

6:11:52

Um I I just want to make sure that we're not placing an unreasonable expectation on the the city attorney's office to be finding us 30 or 40-year-old litigation.

6:12:01

Um that again it's it's more of a practical concern, has nothing to do with I I do think that it'll be helpful to have that information.

6:12:08

Um I just want to make sure we're not asking her to produce information that is not helpful, but they have to do in order to comply with the direction that we give them.

6:12:18

If that makes sense.

6:12:19

Uh yes, it does.

6:12:21

Um I'm happy to offer an amendment maybe just to qualify the the time limit.

6:12:26

Um, Ms.

6:12:27

Prime.

6:12:28

And I'm doing this on the fly here, so make a motion to amend item number 32 to read as follows.

6:12:53

Um let me see, right after the word has been involved in prior active litigation with the city.

6:13:03

And then um since and this is where I don't know because I don't I don't want to exclude any information that may be relevant to us as a council.

6:13:18

Um but I would say let's see.

6:13:32

Can I te bring up the requested action on the screen for us, please?

6:13:36

Maybe the the last uh I was gonna say 15 or 20 years.

6:13:39

Ms.

6:13:40

Niman, do you know when uh you started digitalizing your records so that I can maybe be mindful of that date?

6:13:50

I want to say 2011.

6:13:52

Is how far we can probably go back in our archives?

6:13:56

I don't know if the clerk's office has anything past that, but not in regards to litigation.

6:14:02

So digitally you you started in 2011?

6:14:06

Okay.

6:14:07

And I think that would be reasonable.

6:14:09

Um can I say 2010 just to make it so we know for a fact that we have at least 10 years?

6:14:15

I would prefer to do 10 years for the time being.

6:14:20

And then depending on on the council's direction, I would like permission to come back and do additional research before implementing the action as requested by the council.

6:14:31

I want to make sure that we're not running afoul of anything before we just implemented as proposed by the council.

6:14:38

Okay.

6:14:38

And we've had this many discussions on this item in the past.

6:14:42

Okay, so since let's just say since 2015.

6:14:44

So in prior active litigation with the city since 2015.

6:14:57

So just add since 2015, Ms.

6:15:00

Prime.

6:15:04

Since 2015.

6:15:06

I don't know if I need to add forward or to date since 2015.

6:15:10

To date.

6:15:11

To current to date.

6:15:15

Representative.

6:15:17

Okay.

6:15:20

I'll second.

6:15:21

Okay.

6:15:22

So I have a motion and a second on the amendment.

6:15:24

Ms.

6:15:25

Prime, can you read that back so we can make sure we got it?

6:15:27

Yes, sir.

6:15:28

And so uh the amendment would be to insert the words from or since 2015 to date.

6:15:35

Well, can we make it?

6:15:37

I think onward would be a better word because to date.

6:15:41

Otherwise it's forever.

6:15:43

Yes, exactly.

6:15:44

So I think that the the proposal should be for 10 years from it shouldn't be from the day of the 10 years from whatever the date of the award going back.

6:15:53

I don't think that we should be focusing it on a specific year.

6:15:57

Otherwise, it's never going to stop.

6:15:58

Like our requirement would require us that we continue to go back.

6:16:02

So I think that the maximum amount should be 10 years, period.

6:16:06

Okay.

6:16:08

So can I make an amendment to the amendment?

6:16:10

Thank you.

6:16:11

Thank you, Ms.

6:16:12

Neiman, for that.

6:16:13

So and litigation with the city.

6:16:25

But should we say going back 10 years, Ms.

6:16:27

Neiman?

6:16:28

Is that going back 10 years would be the correct language?

6:16:30

Correct.

6:16:31

For you?

6:16:31

Okay.

6:16:32

Going back 10 years.

6:16:37

Okay.

6:16:38

So then thank you, sir.

6:16:41

So then we would insert the words going back 10 years after the words with the city.

6:16:48

Yes.

6:16:48

Yes.

6:16:49

Going back 10 years.

6:16:50

Yes.

6:16:50

Thank you.

6:16:54

So Ms.

6:16:56

Bryan, this is the only amendment, or is there another amendment we need to do?

6:17:00

Perfect.

6:17:00

Okay.

6:17:03

Okay.

6:17:03

Can you read that back to us, please?

6:17:05

Yes, sir.

6:17:06

So the motion was made by Mayor Potem Chavez, seconded by Representative Acevedo, and this is to amend the direction on item 32 to include the words going back 10 years after the words.

6:17:20

Been involved in prior or active litigation with a city and then insert going back 10 years.

6:17:26

Okay.

6:17:29

Any further discussion on the amendment?

6:17:34

All right, Ms.

6:17:35

Prime, call for the vote on the amendment, please.

6:17:36

Yes, sir.

6:17:37

On that motion, call for the vote.

6:17:46

And the voting session?

6:17:48

And that motion passes unanimously.

6:17:50

Okay, let's take the main motion.

6:17:52

Uh items.

6:17:53

We do have public comments.

6:17:55

We have Ms.

6:17:55

Osmond.

6:17:56

Okay.

6:18:06

I don't think this is on.

6:18:08

Okay.

6:18:09

As far as burden.

6:18:12

Put on whether that would be Ms.

6:18:14

Neiman, an assistant in our office, or quite frankly, maybe purchasing.

6:18:19

Okay.

6:18:21

You could go back well past what the archive of the city attorney has by maybe um 60-second search of court records.

6:18:35

It's very easy to do.

6:18:36

You go to public records, you go to the court records, civil case, and then you search that vendor's name.

6:18:44

60 seconds.

6:18:46

Okay.

6:18:46

It is not much of a burden, whether it be city attorney's office, but that is a burden that quite frankly should be placed on purchasing.

6:18:55

When they're taking in a bid and bringing something to you, they should have already done that.

6:19:02

But in that same line, it shouldn't be also a loophole that one subcontractor gets his buddy to sign up and bid for this, and he's like, I'll do the work.

6:19:19

Because even on a on a federal level, subcontractors have to be verified.

6:19:26

They've got to be searched.

6:19:27

So why it is the city doesn't to do that is really odd.

6:19:33

But it's not much of a burden.

6:19:37

And I understand, maybe you don't deal with that.

6:19:39

You've maybe never dealt with the courthouse or records, FOIA, any of that.

6:20:15

Didn't even take me long to get on the state comproller site to get you those records.

6:20:22

Not a problem.

6:20:24

In fact, that contractor doesn't have a DBA set up at the city.

6:20:29

The only thing he has registered as a business anywhere is at the COMPROLLES, which is a little shady when you're thinking about our tax dollars scoring to somebody.

6:20:39

That's why subcontractors should be added to this.

6:20:45

But it's not a burden.

6:20:47

I would suggest take a few minutes this evening.

6:20:52

Do a do a civil search on your own name, and you'll see how quick it is.

6:20:57

But thank you for bringing this up, Ms.

6:20:59

Chavez.

6:21:00

I just wish it had added subcontractors, because that is a loophole and a huge one that purchasing is using to give contractors money.

6:21:10

Thank you, Mrs.

6:21:14

All right.

6:21:14

Representative Canalis.

6:21:16

Thank you, Mayor.

6:21:17

Um I'd like to offer one additional amendment and that is to append to the end.

6:21:24

Uh and further that the city attorney shall conduct a legal review of this proposal prior to implementation and report back to the council with findings within 15 days.

6:21:39

Okay, that's a motion for that amendment.

6:21:42

Is there a second?

6:21:44

Second.

6:21:45

Okay.

6:21:45

I have a motion and a second.

6:21:48

And again, that's just responsive to uh the city attorney's request for this.

6:21:52

Representative Chavez.

6:21:57

Thank you, Mayor.

6:21:58

I just I had ample discussions with the legal team.

6:22:02

This has been ongoing for months.

6:22:04

And so um at our last council meeting, uh we uh voted on an item and then postponed an item during that uh council meeting right before the vote, you know, it came to our attention that there was um pending litigation with a company that we were awarding a contract to.

6:22:27

Um at that time, Ms.

6:22:28

Neiman said that the procurement department was already having those considerations as part of uh their process.

6:22:37

Um and she she went on record to say that.

6:22:41

So I I don't think that I don't think that amendment is necessary because these conversations have already occurred.

6:22:48

So I I will not be supporting your amendment.

6:22:52

Thank you.

6:22:52

All right, thank you.

6:22:53

So we have a motion and a second.

6:22:55

Motion by Representative Canalis to amend it uh second by Representative Lamont.

6:23:00

Call for the vote, Ms.

6:23:01

Bryan.

6:23:01

Yes, sir, and this is to include the words and further that the city attorney shall conduct a legal review of this proposal prior to implementation and report back to the city council with findings within 15 days on that amendment, call for the vote.

6:23:23

And the voting session.

6:23:25

And the motion fails two to four.

6:23:28

Representatives Chavez Acevedo Rocha Nino voting nay.

6:23:32

Representatives Limon Canales voting aye.

6:23:34

The motion fails.

6:23:35

Okay.

6:23:38

We're back on the main motion.

6:23:41

Yes, sir.

6:23:41

And so the main motion is call for the vote on the main motion.

6:23:44

Thank you, sir.

6:23:45

The main motion now is made by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, seconded by Representative Acevedo.

6:23:52

And this is to approve as revised to direct the city attorney that prior to the award of any city contract where the proposed awardee has been involved in prior or active litigation with a city going back 10 years to brief city council on the background and context of such litigation and any other related legal considerations relevant to the proposed contract with such briefing to occur in executive session.

6:24:17

On that motion, call for the vote.

6:24:29

In the voting session, the motion passes 521.

6:24:33

Representative Carnale is voting nay.

6:24:35

The remainder of council voting aye, the motion carries.

6:24:38

Okay.

6:24:39

Ms.

6:24:39

Bryan, let's take item number 33, please.

6:24:42

Yes, sir.

6:24:43

Item 33 is discussion and action directing the city manager in coordination with the city attorney to develop a comprehensive anti-littering strategy that combines public education, formalized community partnerships, and structured disposal access for volunteer cleanup organizations operating within the city limits and come back within 90 days with recommendations.

6:25:06

This was placed by Representatives Nino and Maldonado Rocha.

6:25:10

Okay.

6:25:10

Representative Nino.

6:25:11

Motion to approve.

6:25:12

Second.

6:25:13

Okay.

6:25:13

There's a motion and second of Representative Nino.

6:25:15

Thank you, Mayor.

6:25:17

I have a short video if IT could pull it up.

6:25:20

It's only a minute long.

6:25:26

And so while this video plays, I want to thank Rep Rocha for co-sponsoring this alongside with me.

6:25:33

You know, Article 13, litter, litter and illegal dumping, Section 9.04670.

6:25:39

Litter and illegal dumping is prohibited.

6:25:41

No person shall dump, throw, drop, discard, or otherwise dispose any litter in any public or private property within the city.

6:25:52

It's important it was important for me to bring this item forward today because the issue of littering and illegal dumping, it's not abstract to our community, it's personal.

6:26:02

Like many of you, I drive the same streets as the residents that we represent.

6:26:05

I live in the same neighborhoods, and I see the same corners, the same alleys, the same vacant lots, and the same roadways every single day.

6:26:13

And over the years I've seen clear and consistent pattern of illegal dumping and trash across our city.

6:26:20

The photos and videos that I'm sharing here with you today, they're not stock images.

6:26:24

They were not pulled from reports.

6:26:26

I personally took them with my own device within city limits on city owned property.

6:26:33

And they reflect what many of our residents see daily and have been telling us for many years.

6:26:38

Some of this footage I just took it this past Friday.

6:26:42

Littering and illegal dumping are not just a quality of life issue.

6:26:47

They're public safety concerns, their public health concerns, they impact our environment, our neighborhoods, and our sense as of pride as a city.

6:26:56

They also reflect our infrastructure.

6:27:00

Trash and debris clog our storm drains, they damage our water systems, and accelerate wear and tear on our streets and facilities, costing taxpayers more and more money year after year.

6:27:12

And this all could be preventable, but we need to address it collectively.

6:27:17

This item is not about pointing fingers.

6:27:19

It's about empowerment.

6:27:21

It's about empowering our city staff, environmental services, code enforcement, our police department who are already work every day to keep our city clean and safe.

6:27:31

It's about empowering them to come back with solutions.

6:27:34

It's about empowering our community members who want to also do the right thing.

6:27:38

It's about empowering the volunteer-based organizations that show up time and time again to clean our neighborhoods simply because they care and also bring in other communities such as the county of El Paso.

6:27:50

This item is asking us to bring everyone to the same table, including us, the council members, to combine education, partnerships, and practical support so we could tackle this issue together and more effectively.

6:28:02

And the timing matters.

6:28:04

As we prepare to begin our strategic planning process later this month, this is the exact type of issue that deserves some of our attention.

6:28:12

Residents across our city have consistently shared that cleaning our neighborhoods is one of their top priorities.

6:28:18

They want to see more action, coordination, and our leadership on this issue.

6:28:25

Thank you for all your support and help throughout the year.

6:28:28

We hosted a couple of community cleanups last year, all of us did, to help tackle this issue.

6:28:33

In our last community cleanup in District 5 in October, we filled up over six and a half roll-on containers, allowing members from our community to come and dispose of trash, and it meant that it won't end up in our neighborhoods.

6:28:47

This is truly an opportunity to be proactive to our line our efforts and to send a clear message that keeping El Paso clean is a shared responsibility, and that our city, our staff, our volunteers, and our residents work together, we could make real lasting progress.

6:29:03

I respectfully ask for all of your support as we move this conversation forward.

6:29:08

And I also have shared some statements from different organizations from Desert Rescue, from Trash Mob, from Sun City Pickers, and also El Paso County, Commissioner Butler, which will be added on to the record because it's important for all of us.

6:29:21

And again, I thought it was important for us to initiate the conversations since we will start going into our strategic plan.

6:29:27

And again, hopefully I could have your support, Council.

6:29:30

Thank you, Representative Representative Rocha.

6:29:33

Thank you, Mayor.

6:29:34

And thank you, Rep Nino, for allowing me to be part of this.

6:29:48

And recently, it was last month, I believe, maybe a couple months ago.

6:29:52

I was walking across the street right here on my way from the parking lot to um to City Hall, and it's littered with trash over the weekend, you know, when you're coming in on a Monday morning.

6:30:00

And it's littered with trash over the weekend.

6:30:01

You know, when you're coming in on a Monday morning.

6:30:04

And Assistant Chief Arvizu just bent over and picked it up without even a thought.

6:30:11

Come to find out he had had it.

6:30:13

He had actually done his uh masters on that very issue.

6:30:17

If you're if you're able and you can and you're willing, just pick it up and find a trash can for it.

6:30:24

And I think that's the mindset that a lot of us um want everybody to have to take care of our beautiful city.

6:30:33

And it you're right, it's not about pointing fingers.

6:30:36

It's about coming together and saying, you know what, I see it.

6:30:39

I'm gonna pick it up, I'm gonna throw it in the trash.

6:30:42

Is it a little extra if you're if you're physically able to do that?

6:30:45

I don't think it's asking much so that we can all take some pride in in taking care of our beautiful city.

6:30:54

And along with that, I think that these organizations are actually already doing a lot of the work.

6:31:00

Uh several of us had as Rep Nino mentioned, the two uh community cleanups last year.

6:31:07

And so thank you to staff and thank you, Ms.

6:31:11

Mack, for um coordinating that and having staff coordinate it with with each of our districts.

6:31:16

But as Rep Nino said, we need so much more.

6:31:20

And each of our districts are just different.

6:31:22

Some have arroyos, some have alleys, some have ponding areas, um, some have deserts that are abutting the area.

6:31:31

And so it it's it's so unique in and around the city of El Paso to be able to say how can we all come together and just do something beautiful in honor of taking care of our city.

6:31:45

So thank you so much.

6:31:47

And and I too ask humbly for your support on this item.

6:31:51

I'm really looking forward to seeing how it ties in uh nicely, I might add, with the strategic plan.

6:31:57

So thank you.

6:31:58

Thank you, Representative Representative Chavez.

6:32:01

Thank you, Mayor.

6:32:01

Thank you to Representative Nina, Representative Rocha for bringing this item forward.

6:32:05

I think uh this is an extremely good thing for our community um anti-littering strategy.

6:32:11

I I just hope we come up with a very clever name, hopefully.

6:32:14

Oh sorry.

6:32:16

I didn't know you were gonna say that.

6:32:18

But yeah, hopefully we can come up with, and I'm sure that the team will do a great job, Miss Max team will do a great job in in helping us with that.

6:32:26

Um I'm just really sorry, Representative Fierro's not here because you know, we collaborated on on a trash can that flipped over and um was in one of uh the arroyos in district one and and I think he would he would agree that it's important that we clean up our city.

6:32:42

But we've recently even had uh people email us regarding some some bigger items maybe that they can't pick up on their own, like tires and and lots of debris from construction sites and things like that.

6:32:54

So I would just want to encourage the community to ensure that for them to know that they can reach out to us so that we can help them out in those things because we all want to make sure that this our city reflects the pride we feel as El Pasoans.

6:33:05

So thank you.

6:33:06

I'm happy to support this.

6:33:07

Thank you.

6:33:07

Representative.

6:33:09

Thank you, Mayor.

6:33:10

I was gonna say, I hope we come up with a witty campaign on this, because I think this is this is great.

6:33:15

I appreciate Rep Nino, Rep Maldonado Rocha, for bringing this forward.

6:33:20

This is something that I think all of our districts could benefit from.

6:33:25

One one thing that, and I don't want to offer any amendments or anything like that, but just keeping this in mind, and and I think the language really gets to it is one of the things that I've experienced is TextDot says it's the city, the city says it's Texot.

6:33:40

The city says it's El Paso Water, El Paso Water says it's the city, and then Union Pacific says it's a city, the city says it's Union Pacific.

6:33:47

So I'm really hoping that we could kind of figure that out.

6:33:51

And one of the other things that I know Miss Mac has kind of been working at throughout the last year is seeing how we could get more access to the citizen collection sites.

6:34:02

And that can really um help with this because I think a lot of people that might not have an El Paso water bill are just leaving things on the curb because they don't have access to these sites.

6:34:13

So how can we make that easier?

6:34:14

So I'm hoping we could get some out some of that out of what you've put here.

6:34:19

So I appreciate it.

6:34:20

Thank you.

6:34:22

Representative Nino.

6:34:23

Thank you, Mayor, and and thank you to my colleagues for their comments.

6:34:26

And yeah, like I said, uh being very broad of directing staff to work on an anti-littering strategy, gives them the opportunity to be empowered and come back with recommendations and even have conversations with us of what that means.

6:34:40

Um I'll tell you on the back my backup, there's a guide.

6:34:43

It's it's not specifying that that's what I'm looking for, but it's just sharing ideas who they could partner up with with County Will Paso Desert Rescue, Sun City Pickers, O'Paso Trash Mob, keep El Paso beautiful.

6:34:53

I know that the city is collaborating alongside with them, but it's really looking at uh the whole big picture and what is it that we're gonna come up with as a city.

6:35:02

And I've also, you know, I've met with staff and I told them if there's specific discretionary funds that I could allocate for my district to even help expand the education and the PSA aspect of it.

6:35:13

I definitely think it's also going to be important to work with El Paso Water, for example.

6:35:16

Paso Water just recently last week did a post about trash in in our water system and what it's done to the water system as well.

6:35:25

And so if we could also partner up with them and include some sort of PSA in the water bill, for example, um, could help us reach even broader audiences, and that's really what it's about.

6:35:36

It's coming down to to all of us working together.

6:35:38

So thank you, Mayor.

6:35:39

Very good.

6:35:41

Any more discussion on item 33?

6:35:45

Okay, Ms.

6:35:46

Bryan.

6:35:46

Yes, sir.

6:35:47

The motion was made by Representative Nino, seconded by Representative Malonado Rocha, and this is to direct the city manager in coordination with the city attorney to develop a comprehensive anti-littering strategy that combines public education, formalized community partnerships, and structure structured disposal access for volunteer cleanup organizations operating within the city limits, and come back within 90 days with recommendations on that motion.

6:36:13

Call for the vote.

6:36:26

And the voting session.

6:36:27

And that motion passes unanimously.

6:36:30

Okay, great.

6:36:30

Okay, Ms.

6:36:31

Price, take item number 37, please.

6:36:33

Yes, sir.

6:36:34

Item 37 is a presentation about the enforcement efforts on the prohibited uses of residential properties as entertainment venues.

6:36:42

Good evening, Steve.

6:36:44

Good evening, Mayor, members of the council, Steve Alvarado, Code Enforcement Director.

6:36:50

You have a presentation for us.

6:36:52

Yes.

6:36:53

So last year, oops, sorry, jumping ahead here.

6:36:57

Uh presentation on entertainment venues and swimming pool rental enforcement update.

6:37:01

We brought this to council, city council last year.

6:37:04

Uh planning and inspections was the lead, but we assisted in the the presentation.

6:37:09

At that time, we provided city council with uh several amendments, proposed amendments.

6:37:16

Uh the purpose of this presentation obviously is to provide an update to the city council on our enforcement rent of the rental of residential properties for party halls and entertainment venues, including swimming pools.

6:37:30

We had these definitions that we provided last year to council.

6:37:34

Um pretty much the same thing, nothing's changed there.

6:37:38

But there's a residential and commercial um strictly prohibited uh you know renting out your property on a residential property.

6:37:47

Some of our proposed amendments, strengthened municipal code to include use of residential properties, says dance halls and entertainment venues is prohibited.

6:37:57

Uh additional proposed amendment would be adding the last uh red line.

6:38:02

Swimming pools and non-commercial shall not be rented except for the private swimming lessons, may be given under a home occupation permit.

6:38:13

We did include a communication outreach.

6:38:16

Notification began spring of 2025.

6:38:19

Uh several meetings.

6:38:20

We also created door hangers and we sent out uh mailers, postcards to uh people that owned residential pools.

6:38:28

During this time, I believe there is a total of 17,000 over 17,000 pool permits within the city of El Paso.

6:38:37

So we broke it down in district for our summer enforcement, and we still include enforcement to this date.

6:38:43

Uh but there was a total of 57 calls for service.

6:38:46

Uh District 1 had 17 calls for service.

6:38:49

We actually found two cases in district one, um, zero entertainment cases, those were pool cases, uh parking citations for and other violations in district one.

6:38:59

District two had one call for service, uh, no pool cases, no entertainment, and we found another violation.

6:39:06

Other violations include uh storage on city streets, vector issues and ponding or fountains, things along that line.

6:39:13

So you just have a little bit of background on that.

6:39:15

Uh district three had total of six calls for service, and one uh one other violation was found.

6:39:21

No pools or entertainment venues that we located.

6:39:24

Uh District 4, 11 calls for service and five parking citations.

6:39:29

Um District 5, 5 calls for service.

6:39:32

As you can see, district 6, 9 calls for service, one other violation, and district 7, 7 calls with uh three parking sites.

6:39:39

And district eight, you only had one, and no violations were located for district eight.

6:39:45

Some of the things we learned through this, uh, we expanded our enforcement with parking enforcement working Monday through uh Saturdays now.

6:39:53

We included a supervisor on the weekend, so we modified that person's supervisor schedule from Tuesday through Saturday.

6:40:00

They work three month shifts, so they'll rotate to the next supervisor.

6:40:02

So we have more coverage on the weekends, Saturdays, especially Friday, Saturdays when we get most of their entertainment um calls or loud music as well.

6:40:11

With that, I open it up to questions to the council.

6:40:14

Representative Chavez.

6:40:16

Thank you, Mayor, and I know it's late, so Steve, thank you for sticking around.

6:40:19

I was really looking forward to this presentation because I know that this is a hot topic in my district.

6:40:25

I think from the data you gave me last uh year, I think district one has the most number of pools in all of the cities, so it doesn't surprise me to know that the number of service calls is the highest in district one.

6:40:37

I want to thank you for uh all the all the graphics and everything you put together that last year I shared on my social media, and this year I'm really hoping to get in front of it uh before the the summer season begins and people start renting out these pools again.

6:40:50

So I'll be looking uh to for your help and your team's help in that process.

6:40:55

But I know I know that um it it's it's just a big concern for my constituents.

6:41:01

So I appreciate the work behind this.

6:41:03

Thank you, representative.

6:41:04

And I look forward to continue working with you.

6:41:06

Thank you.

6:41:07

Steve, thank you for the presentation.

6:41:08

And Ms.

6:41:09

Brown, we have public comment.

6:41:10

Yes, sir.

6:41:10

We have Ms.

6:41:11

Osman.

6:41:11

Thank you, Steve.

6:41:12

Thank you.

6:41:19

Now I've been around since all all of this started.

6:41:24

Uh and still there is no definition for what entertainment means.

6:41:30

Um still not on there, still not through the presentation.

6:41:36

But I'm t I am curious, I understand the poll issue and heard all the families and the ladies come and complain about that, but um in regards to entertainment, it's not defined.

6:41:50

I'm just curious.

6:41:52

Does anybody go and check one Sierra Crest or are gated communities not part of this?

6:42:02

They get a free pass just because I am fully aware of all the parties and not just entertainment, but fundraiser, whether it's for the GOP, electric company, women's club that Rick and Ginger have at their home.

6:42:21

It is their home.

6:42:24

So is there one class that is fine, they get get to get away with it because they're in a gated community?

6:42:33

I mean, we had a brothel in a gated community, a BDSM brothel in the willows.

6:42:40

Got away with it for a long time.

6:42:44

But just that anybody in town that has a pool, maybe they wanted to, you know, rent it out to other neighbor kids or what whatever.

6:42:58

They they get a ticket, right?

6:43:00

They get calls.

6:43:01

But I guess nobody's calling when uh all the cars are going up to one Sierra Crest, everybody parking at the heliport for whatever fundraisers, because that's not a personal family get together.

6:43:16

That is an entertainment event to raise tens of thousands of dollars for various organizations for various political parties.

6:43:30

And it just it baffles me how it is that one class, even here in El Paso, gets a pass, and everybody else has to pay.

6:43:46

Just wanted to point that out.

6:43:48

If you've not been to Sierra one Sierra Crest and those parties, I think I proved that to Mr.

6:43:53

Canales, that they do exist, especially those uh fundraiser ones.

6:43:59

If you ever if anybody else wants to see photos of that, let me know.

6:44:02

I can go ahead and prove whatever I say.

6:44:08

Okay, Miss Brian, let's take item number thirty-eight, please.

6:44:10

Yes, sir.

6:44:11

Item number thirty-eight is a presentation on an American Rescue Plan Act ARPA update.

6:44:18

Good evening.

6:44:19

Good evening, Maryland Council.

6:44:23

So today we are going to provide uh short update on American Esclans.

6:44:28

Thank you.

6:44:28

Community for this ARPA.

6:44:30

Next slide.

6:44:31

So we can hear you.

6:44:35

Okay.

6:44:35

Can you hear me now?

6:44:37

A little bit, yeah.

6:44:38

So this is the agenda for the for the ARPA.

6:44:41

Okay.

6:44:42

So uh on March 11th, 2021, uh uh American government, uh, and not that the American Rescue Res Rescue Plan Act, uh, which established the Corona State and local local and fiscal recovery funds.

6:44:56

City of Paso received 154.3 million dollars.

6:45:01

And this money was uh specifically designed to fight the pandemic, but also to support long-term growth.

6:45:07

What is really important period of performance for this money was uh a little bit less than six years.

6:45:12

So it is going to expire at the end of this calendar year.

6:45:16

It expires in the end of uh December, uh December thirty first, twenty twenty-six.

6:45:21

Next slide, please.

6:45:22

Uh so I wanna mention that uh uh with this such huge info influx of money, it comes with uh its own price, right?

6:45:31

But for the city, it's a uh positive one.

6:45:33

Uh the city was able to strengthen its internal controls even more.

6:45:37

Uh we were able to improve our approval process and also our reporting aspect.

6:45:43

Uh it we which is really important to mention that uh we s uh we improved significantly improved how we manage our grant money.

6:45:52

Uh and uh and also our sub recipient application process.

6:45:57

Next slide, please.

6:46:00

And not just that, with this influx of money, uh we had uh several projects to s to select.

6:46:07

So it's the city uh uh the city created a strict internal uh review process and put uh only the projects that uh had uh long-term uh impact to the uh to the community and also they that had uh uh uh huge operational impact uh for for our uh benef for for our benefits.

6:46:27

Next slide, please.

6:46:29

Uh as you can see from uh 154.4 million dollars, uh 68% or 100 and point uh uh 105.5 million dollars were allocated uh to public health and safety.

6:46:43

Uh so fire health and and police departments received 105.5 million dollars.

6:46:48

Next slide, please.

6:46:50

We prepared short video for for you to see uh good projects that we that we finished uh in in this short period of time.

6:48:35

Very good.

6:48:36

So all these projects in a little bit over five years.

6:48:39

So we were able to uh procure obligate uh design and uh move forward with uh all these projects in a little bit over five years.

6:48:50

So we have uh less than six years to spend all the money, but most of the projects were brought online a little bit over uh five years.

6:48:58

Um this is the list of the projects, and as you can see, one hundred and forty-five point four million dollars or ninety-four percent have been already obligated or spent.

6:49:08

Uh and we will need to spend eight point nine or six percent by the end of this calendar year.

6:49:15

Next slide, please.

6:49:23

Uh together with that we were able to carry out uh some beautiful good projects, and we were able to show how we were able to turn federal money uh to the to the benefits or or our to our community.

6:49:37

Uh next slide, please.

6:49:40

For example, uh our police department was able to fund uh and kick start their their body worn cameras.

6:49:49

Uh that was the project that uh was awaiting money for a long time, and they were able uh we provided six point six million dollars and they were able to to uh to deploy seven hundred uh uh body warm cameras for their patrol and uh and uh uh other units.

6:50:00

show how we were able to turn federal money uh to the to the benefits or or our to our community uh next slide please for example uh our police department was able to to fund uh and kick start their their body worn cameras uh that was the project that uh was l awaiting money for a long time and they were able uh we provided six point six million dollars and they were able to to uh to deploy several hundred uh uh body world cameras for their patrol and uh and uh uh other units on other on on the other hand the fire department was able to replace their uh outdated uh sell uh self-contained breeding apparatus uh uh equipment with the new NFPA uh accredited uh uh uh uh equipment with all the only six point six million dollars next slide please so the city uh was able to to to direct money toward uh public health and safety but also we were able to direct money toward our community and uh also uh to our our economic uh economic revol recovery and also to our quality of life for example for for a community recovery we directed 12 million dollars and uh to help uh uh to fight the homelessness and uh and uh uh and the families in need uh el Paso helps is uh is uh collaborative effort that ensures and ensures and and helps the families in need that need immediate insistance uh and the and that that fight uh homelessness uh food insecurities and other basic needs uh next slide please uh when we are talking about economic recovery we were we were we directed 14 million dollars towards our entrepreneurship or small businesses by providing easy access to capital such as uh providing uh low interest uh or two percent uh loans to uh to to our startups and also providing them uh uh with place based uh uh help through our boss boss or business uh one stop shop program next time last slide please uh information uh our informational technology or IT department was able to carry out a couple of important pro uh projects we were able to upgrade our uh public safety communicate and communicate communications uh infrastructure and uh uh linked uh our city with the with the broadband uh uh upgrades uh El Paso Computes you heard about that uh at the last council meeting uh and uh it it uh this is a really cool program that helps uh actually to instill uh artificial intelligence and computer science to uh to the kids uh across Kateville schools next slide please um deferred investment in uh our parks and recreation departments uh uh was addressed through our life active program and uh we were able to to reconstruct many of our courts and resurface our uh court uh courts and also we were able to uh to fix many of our D rated playgrounds so uh from 25 rated playgrounds now we are down to 11 uh D rated playgrounds and at the end uh I would just like to to point out uh again that uh uh the city executed uh ARPA funds uh with efficiency and uh uh and uh uh we had a good strategy for uh for that uh we were able to spend one hundred and uh forty five million dollars in less than five years uh we were able to carry out uh beautiful projects to that that will help the community and it will be uh uh here forever uh and uh but uh funds are expiring uh this was one time money and uh uh it it will expire as I mentioned at the end of this uh calendar year uh all the programs that uh that rely on uh ARPA funding uh will be evaluated during fiscal year 2027 budget development process but the the city is going uh to try to uh to identify alternative solutions uh to m my meaningless service impact and with that uh I'm open for any questions and we have uh departments here uh if you have any specific questions okay thank you Sasha uh Representative Lamon Thank you Sasha were there any buildings uh purchased with ARPA money we invested in our uh we re relocated yes the public health building on the railroad facility we purchased that building and the more head former Moorehead school we purchased that building as well using the ARPA funding the clinic on Stanton Street that was done with cares funding so that was prior to the ARP allocation so those clinics were purchased with the cares funding that we received in 2021.

6:54:36

Okay.

6:54:37

Thank you very much good information.

6:55:00

But I think this is one of the positives that that uh left behind, right?

6:55:02

None of it, well, I wasn't here then uh when you received this funding.

6:55:06

Many of us were not here.

6:55:09

But I don't know who was in the room or at the table or how this conversation started or who decided how to allocate what funding to what, but I think you've done a tremendous job in investing in our community, and the impacts of this will be felt for generations.

6:55:23

Uh what a difference it's made.

6:55:25

So again, a positive from something you know that happened that was not so good for our community and for our country.

6:55:32

Um, but but we're very grateful for for this opportunity to invest in our future.

6:55:38

So thank you for this update.

6:55:40

Appreciate it.

6:55:41

Sasha, thank you for the presentation.

6:55:45

We have public comment on this item.

6:55:47

Yes, sir.

6:55:47

We have Ms.

6:55:48

Osmond.

6:55:49

Robert.

6:55:59

Sasha's pretty tall.

6:56:01

She's short.

6:56:03

Um, in regards to that 150 million that we received.

6:56:09

I'm not saying that all of it was money ill spent.

6:56:13

What I am curious, though, about is it a hundred million of infrastructure?

6:56:21

All of this that was done with this money.

6:56:25

That now, how are we going to maintain it?

6:56:31

Is that future money that's then now added to deficit?

6:56:37

Because I know we're already kind of running in a red in a so we have some safety, but there's some issues there.

6:56:44

I I'm just curious.

6:56:46

I know we did a lot, and it looks good.

6:56:49

Cute video, but how much of this are we once it's done?

6:56:57

It's like a one and done.

6:57:00

Or is is that gonna be like a hundred million dollars later on that we're gonna have to figure out how to come about to replace?

6:57:08

Because we got this supposed free money from the federal government, which is still all our taxes, right?

6:57:15

Um, how much of this?

6:57:18

Like what is what is going to be the future maintenance cost on everything that ARPA did do.

6:57:25

I agree with Ms.

6:57:26

Chavez.

6:57:27

A lot was done great with it.

6:57:29

But how long is it going to last and then how much debt are we going to end up with in the end?

6:57:36

I'm just curious because y'all, y'all never look at the bigger picture or further down the line, it seems.

6:57:43

But I'm just curious about that.

6:57:46

Maybe citizens beside myself are also curious.

6:57:51

Because I doubt we're gonna get, at least from this administration, another hundred and fifty million like this.

6:57:58

And hopefully not for the same reason.

6:58:02

Ms.

6:58:03

Brian, let's take item number 39, please.

6:58:05

Item 39 is presentation and discussion on the fiscal year 2025-2026 first quarter financial report.

6:58:13

Good evening, Robert.

6:58:14

Good evening.

6:58:23

All right.

6:58:23

So this presentation is going to cover the first quarter of our 2026 fiscal year.

6:58:27

So the first quarter accounts for the months of September, October, and November.

6:58:34

Um I don't need to go through this.

6:58:35

You all were very heavily involved in the budget development process for which this time period was covered.

6:58:41

And so again, just some of the key things that we focused on as part of the last budget development process.

6:58:47

Overall, um current revenue right now, $3.4 million down compared to the first quarter last year.

6:58:53

However, that being said, you'll see the note here that it's due to property taxes.

6:58:56

Property taxes are cyclical.

6:58:58

Largest portion of our property taxes are collected in December and January.

6:59:02

And so you'll see that catch up reflected in the second quarter report that we'll bring forward here in the next few months.

6:59:07

Um sales tax, we'll talk about that, but sales tax is performing extremely well through the first quarter.

6:59:11

Uh very encouraging.

6:59:12

However, again, it was something that we continue to monitor just due to the volatility of that revenue source.

6:59:17

When we look to expenses, overall expenses up by 5.1 million or 4.3% compared to the first quarter of last year.

6:59:25

Again, the big increase here, which you'll see on some of the slides again, due to the largest cost that we have, and that's in our personal services, which is the salary benefits taxes for our city employees.

6:59:36

Um this here is essentially the key takeaway from this presentation as we look to the budget for both revenue and expenses.

6:59:42

You'll see the actuals September through November, and then on the far right hand column is the year and projection.

6:59:48

Again, this is very, very early in the fiscal year.

6:59:50

This is done again, covering that first quarter.

6:59:53

Um so these numbers will change as we gather more information over the next several months.

7:00:00

Right now, you'll see a very, very slight projective surplus, a very positive indicator right now.

7:00:04

The bullet point there at the bottom, I should have probably made that a larger font size because that's really the key to this presentation as well.

7:00:11

Is that right now we are not projecting to have to use any of the $3.25 million dollars that we budgeted as the use of our fund balance.

7:00:20

So you all may recall that mayor, one of the big things that we really focused on was that sustainability, not using one-time revenue.

7:00:26

Again, reiterating the points that Sasha made in the presentation he did at the last meeting.

7:00:33

And so again, this presentation and that projection right there that you'll see in the far right hand column.

7:00:38

Um, as of right now, does not anticipate having to use any of the 3.25 million dollars use of fund balance.

7:00:46

Um so we have here just comparison data, shows you again all the revenue categories, shows you the current fiscal year budget, shows you the year to date, again, first quarter.

7:00:56

Uh, the two right hand columns you'll see there are the same time period of last year, just for comparison purposes.

7:01:02

Um, you'll see overall collected percent, 4.2 percent compared to 15.4 percent, and the prior year, again, primarily due to the timing of the of the property taxes.

7:01:14

Um, as we look to the projections here again, as I just mentioned overall, still projecting that slight surplus.

7:01:20

You'll see total revenue uh projected under budget by 4.2 million, but again, 3.2 of that is the use of fund balance, which we're not using.

7:01:27

Um, so again, overall, still projecting that $52,000 surplus for the fiscal year.

7:01:33

Uh, we just provided some historical context on the property tax collection percentage.

7:01:38

Um, as I mentioned, we'll update that when the second quarter comes around, and you'll see that really more in line with the historical average.

7:01:44

Uh we talked about this a lot during the budget development cycle.

7:01:47

So we've seen a little bit of a slowdown of property values.

7:01:51

Um, this is something again that Sasha and the budget office is working on right now for the multi-year financial outlook plays a key role in forecasting future revenue uh growth, and so uh 5.6% last year.

7:02:04

Early indication we're probably seeing a little bit of a decrease, so um something we'll take into account with the FY2027 budget development process.

7:02:13

Uh this slide here, I've got two slides on sales taxes.

7:02:16

Probably one of the biggest things on the revenue side.

7:02:18

Uh, you'll see here the last couple of years, full years of data.

7:02:23

You'll see sales tax is really cyclical.

7:02:25

Again, this is covering the first quarter.

7:02:26

You see that big spike there in December.

7:02:28

Obviously, the holiday season is our largest uh sales tax collection month.

7:02:32

Um, so we will get that sales tax amount next Wednesday, anxiously awaiting that amount to see how it comes in.

7:02:39

Um, so far for the first quarter, trending extremely well right now.

7:02:43

September, October, November is that gray line you'll see trending well above the FY24 and 2025 amounts.

7:02:50

However, that being said, on this slide here showing you the FY25 to the FY26 amounts, and then the percentage increases.

7:02:58

Uh mayor mentioned to you yesterday during the meeting that right now we're trending about 10% above where we were in the first quarter last year.

7:03:05

Um, one of the things that's helping us this year is that in the prior year, we actually had a negative audit adjustment.

7:03:11

So the state does audit adjustments all throughout the year.

7:03:15

Um, there was a pretty large audit adjustment that impacted us in the last fiscal year, and that time period covered I believe 2018 to 2021.

7:03:24

So they actually rebated or took back about 1.3 million dollars and refunded that company that had paid sales tax when they didn't need to.

7:03:31

Um so you see the little bullet point on the right hand side there about how sales tax is paid, how it's paid on uh the destination, not on the physical location.

7:03:40

So it's actually where the the uh service wherever the product is is actually purchased.

7:03:47

But again, very very encouraging that we see uh such strong sales tax growth.

7:03:52

Uh again, just a few slides on some of the key revenue sources, and again, we talked a lot about these during the budget development cycle.

7:03:59

Um, but these slides show you uh quarter by quarter comparison.

7:04:03

You'll see the FY26 compared to the prior years, Texas gas a little bit above where we've been the last couple years.

7:04:11

El Paso Electric down a little bit compared to where we were in FY25, but um a little bit higher than we were in 24.

7:04:17

And again, these are based on the utilities growth sales, and so we'll see some fluctuation just based on demand.

7:04:24

Um, a pass of water, uh pretty stable revenue source here, uh, right around that 5.4 million dollar, pretty much in line with where we were the last two fiscal years.

7:04:35

Licenses and permits, something that we in addition to several others, but licenses of permits, something that we monitor.

7:04:41

Uh, this was one of the budget items that we made a little bit of reduction in this particular revenue source and the current budget.

7:04:49

And so you'll see that again trending down a little bit from where we were last year, and it doesn't seem like a lot, but every few hundred thousand dollars really does have an impact on the available revenue to fund city services.

7:05:01

Besides sales tax bridges is performing extremely well through the first quarter.

7:05:04

The bridge revenue right now trending about seven percent higher than where we were in the last fiscal year.

7:05:09

So again, that's encouraging that not only we see a strong um increase in the retail trade and our sales tax, but also our bridge crossings as well.

7:05:19

Moving into the expenditure side, um, you'll see here the comparison again, similar information as in the revenues.

7:05:25

You'll see the categories, uh the budget with the actuals year to date for the first quarter, and then the percent expended, and then the right two hand columns there showing the prior year.

7:05:34

Um so overall um expenses pretty much on target with where we expect to be just based on the projections and based on the historical indicators on where we typically are.

7:05:46

You'll see here again, this is the year and projections right now, projected to be under budget by 4.2 million on our expenses.

7:05:53

Um really working to be conservative on the personal services side.

7:05:57

So the pay increases just kicked in in January.

7:06:00

Um we're pretty comfortable with the estimates and factoring those in.

7:06:04

Uh, you'll see right now materials and supplies and some operating expenses projected to be under budget, really helping to again ensure that we're going to generate that surplus at the end of the year.

7:06:15

Um again, same same uh situation here is on the revenue side, just showing you some of the larger expenses.

7:06:20

Some of these slides may seem like they don't serve a point to this presentation, but they really do because as we talk about the budget one, we talked about the largest cost driver being our workforce.

7:06:31

Um this really does sort of sum up, I think, when we talk about what's really driving the budget, whether it be our civilian employees or our uniform employees.

7:06:39

Um, this really does drive the budget.

7:06:41

However, there are a lot of other things that come along with our workforce that are fixed costs that things we have limited control or things that impact the city that really cause a challenge when we're developing the budget.

7:06:54

Um, utilities is one of the big ones.

7:06:56

So we spend quite a bit of money on electricity and on water.

7:06:59

Um so as those rates are going up, the city unfortunately sees those increases passed on to us as well, and so we do see increases in our electricity and water.

7:07:08

Um water expensive, you'll see about 200,000 dollars higher compared to the prior year.

7:07:13

Again, something we factored into the budget this summer.

7:07:17

Vehicle maintenance, something that we spend a lot of time talking about.

7:07:20

Um we do have money in the budget for vehicle replacement, um, not at the level that we really should be at in order to have a constant replacement cycle for all of our city facilities.

7:07:30

And so you'll see here about a 400,000 dollar increase in the first quarter of this year compared to where we were last year.

7:07:37

Um again, aging fleet, it's again going to cause an increase in this particular thing.

7:07:43

It could also be due to vehicle um accidents.

7:07:46

Um, our police department, our streets and maintenance department, our parks and recreation department are the largest users of this uh particular account.

7:07:54

Fuel, we've been very fortunate that we've seen fuel prices pretty stable.

7:07:57

We haven't seen large fluctuations in fuel.

7:08:01

RIT contracts, something that we've seen a pretty sizable increase in our IT contracts.

7:08:07

Um these are all citywide, all of the softwares, all of the different systems that we utilize, all of the different licenses.

7:08:14

Uh one of the things the IT department is working on right now.

7:08:17

Uh we've been working with the Nowside Consultant to help us review some of the contracts that are for either extensions or renegotiations.

7:08:24

Um, so really to help identify where we can trim down some of those costs, particularly on some of those IT contracts again as those come up for renewal.

7:08:33

And then finally, as I mentioned at the start here, again, this is really the key takeaway.

7:08:37

Um slight surplus projected again.

7:08:40

We're only through the first quarter.

7:08:42

Uh, the big key here though, is that right now we're not projecting to have to use any of the budgeted use of our fund balance.

7:08:50

And I'll be happy to answer any questions.

7:08:52

Very good, Robert.

7:08:53

Uh, representative Chavez.

7:08:55

Thank you, Mayor.

7:08:55

Robert, can we go back to uh slide 12, please?

7:09:02

And I I have a question about this specifically for district one.

7:09:07

Uh the new Amazon warehouse that's being built in District One.

7:09:12

So I guess I was gonna ask you this, but now that you brought it up, um whatever sales that they do from that warehouse will not come to the city unless they're shipping within the city.

7:09:26

So if they're shipping to someplace outside of the city limits, then that sales tax goes to whatever city they're shipping to.

7:09:32

So there's been a lot of changes in how the sales tax is accounted for, and so it's determined by the buyer's location, not the seller's location.

7:09:40

So you're correct.

7:09:41

So if that Amazon warehouse sells to somebody in Dallas, that buyer in Dallas or Dallas is where that sales tax will be received.

7:09:50

Okay.

7:09:51

However, that being said, there's pros and cons to that.

7:09:55

The con is obviously we're not collecting for those businesses that are here.

7:09:58

Right.

7:09:59

It actually does help us.

7:10:00

And so we don't have a huge manufacturing, we don't have a lot of headquarters.

7:10:04

We don't have a lot of those type of facilities that are shipping to a lot of places.

7:10:07

So we actually benefit, I believe, from the way that structure currently is that Amazon and all of the electronic e-commerce, that's our biggest category right now that we've seen the largest growth in our uh sales tax category, so it's actually to our benefit right now.

7:10:24

Okay.

7:10:24

Very interesting.

7:10:25

Thank you so much for clarifying that.

7:10:27

Yeah.

7:10:28

I've been curious about it, and I've been meaning to ask you, but now it's here before us.

7:10:32

Thank you so much.

7:10:33

Representative Canales.

7:10:34

Thank you, Mayor.

7:10:35

So essentially we have more buyers here buying from those companies than sellers who are shipping out from here.

7:10:40

Correct.

7:10:41

Okay.

7:10:41

And we're capturing more sales tax than we are losing on that change.

7:10:45

Right.

7:10:45

When you think about the tax, and it's it's not a good thing.

7:10:48

Obviously, we would like to see more commercial base here, but it does help us on the sales tax.

7:10:53

Okay.

7:10:54

Um let me see.

7:10:55

The personal services slide.

7:10:57

Which one was that?

7:10:59

20, I believe.

7:11:03

You can see some kind of year uh quarter to quarter seasonality that happens somewhat consistently year to year.

7:11:12

Is that like seasonal employment plus timing of benefits or something?

7:11:17

How do what what accounts for the quarter-by-quarter changes?

7:11:20

Some of it is due to the number of pay periods in a given month.

7:11:22

And so you have two months out of the year that have three pay periods, and so you'll see some quarters that you'll see that spike, and then in the following year, that uh three-pay period month may be in a different quarter.

7:11:32

That's usually the biggest driver of it, is just number of pay how how the pay periods fall within that.

7:11:37

Number of pay periods in that quarter, correct.

7:11:39

Okay.

7:11:39

Thanks.

7:11:39

Thank you, Mayor.

7:11:40

You got it.

7:11:41

Representative.

7:11:43

Thank you, Mayor.

7:11:44

Just one quick um question.

7:11:46

Toward the end, I heard you say that you were using a consultant to look at different contracts.

7:11:53

Can you elaborate a little bit more on that?

7:11:55

On the IT IT contract.

7:11:57

So I I've been in discussion with the a company called Gardner for a long time.

7:12:00

They've been trying to sell me all sorts of things, and they provide a lot of helpful information.

7:12:05

They're a very well-known uh group that does a lot of different things.

7:12:10

One of the things we've been struggling with is our IT contracts.

7:12:13

And so we have some pretty large contracts that are for renewable, use a lot of licenses.

7:12:17

This company specializes in helping you negotiate to try to bring those costs down.

7:12:21

Okay.

7:12:22

That's that's great to hear.

7:12:23

So it'll make the Robert Mouth better.

7:12:25

Make you happier.

7:12:28

It'll hopefully help bring down the cost of those IT contracts.

7:12:31

Okay.

7:12:31

I appreciate it.

7:12:33

Thank you.

7:12:33

Representative Nino.

7:12:34

Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Robert, for putting this great presentation together.

7:12:38

And I this is a question to you, Robert, or or to Ms.

7:12:41

Mack.

7:12:42

I know that it previously I had mentioned that we're starting the program-based budgeting and looking at the whole picture of, you know, essentially it's like a lien six sigma project for the entire city to really see um how expenditures are being made.

7:12:55

Um but that leads me to my question.

7:12:59

In the future of the conversation of program-based budgeting, can we possibly see any cost savings coming from that?

7:13:09

Well, I think it will be cost savings immediately.

7:13:11

I think it'll be a way for you to sort of understand where those car centers are and to be able to align them to the services that we're providing.

7:13:19

So we'll be meeting with you, I think beginning this week to provide you the packages for the strategic planning.

7:13:24

I've asked the team to list all 237 programs so you can sort of start to see what those details look like and help you to be able to understand how we might bundle some of those categories.

7:13:36

And then as we start to dig into priorities that the community has identified, we understand exactly what those programs cost to the city.

7:13:44

And so as we are making changes and decisions about how we prioritize things moving forward, we really can align to the things that the community has asked us for at a more detailed level than we were able to do in the past.

7:13:55

And I think those are discussions we have to have in the future about what those priorities are and the number of programs that we offer and how we prioritize some of that work, but I don't think in the immediate it's going to help us to be able to immediately reduce it.

7:14:09

Okay, perfect.

7:14:10

Thank you for clarifying that.

7:14:11

Um it looks great that you know there is some sort of surplus and just future conversations, hopefully, we're able to even achieve even furthermore surplus.

7:14:21

Uh so we could get ready for the next budget season.

7:14:24

So thank you.

7:14:25

Yes, Representative Nino said slide six is great.

7:14:28

No use of the fund balance and the surplus.

7:14:31

Absolutely.

7:14:32

Yep.

7:14:32

Very good presentation, Robert.

7:14:34

We have public comment, Ms.

7:14:35

Brian.

7:14:36

Yes, sir.

7:14:36

We have Ms.

7:14:36

Osman.

7:14:45

You know, it's some of that was kind of morbid when you think about it.

7:14:49

Because uh Robert's pretty giddy on you know that taxes are higher on the utilities tax, which means higher rates citizens are paying.

7:15:03

Not something to be happy about.

7:15:05

But some of these licenses, the IT licenses and so forth that are being paid for.

7:15:15

I I would suspect that's part of that is Flock, which is also implemented here.

7:15:25

But also other communities are taking out because they're getting sued, because all of Flock footage, all of those cameras are public record.

7:15:36

Anybody could FOIA request any of that footage.

7:15:40

If y'all aren't really aware, keeping up with that.

7:15:45

Since Ms.

7:15:46

Chavez mentioned Amazon, Amazon has uh announced a 1600 employee layoff, and that is just the start.

7:15:57

So even though we're getting another facility, part of that is gonna be a bunch of AI.

7:16:07

So instead of people having jobs locally, it's gonna be robots or if we are not aware.

7:16:15

Detainees are now being used as in essence slave labor.

7:16:20

So whether that's going to be an Amazon facilities or other warehouses, not just that they're housed in warehouses, that is a case, which means we have companies coming in that are actually laying off more people, but our local environment is getting the hit from it.

7:16:42

Um 52,000 as a surplus for a city that has almost a one billion dollar budget.

7:16:53

That is insane.

7:16:56

That that is like me giving a two-year-old a quarter and them thinking, oh, that's a whole lot.

7:17:04

I mean that that's the impression when when somebody's mentioning 52,000 in surplus.

7:17:11

When we have almost a million dollar billion dollar budget, that that's insanity.

7:17:17

Um but I guess you know, we'll just put lipstick on a pig.

7:17:20

Let's just be happy about anything.

7:17:26

There's gonna be a deficit.

7:17:28

He's already been saying he's we're already struggling on how to stay within a budget, and part of that is not hiring employees.

7:17:39

So although we have a really high employee rate, you're actually saving money because you're not hiring too.

7:17:46

Thank you, Ms.

7:17:47

Osmond.

7:17:49

Okay, Ms.

7:17:50

Brian, let's take item number 40, please.

7:17:52

Item 40 is discussion in action on the award of solicitation 2025-0219, downtown bicycle improvements phase one to El Paso ARC Electric Inc.

7:18:02

for a total estimated amount of $2 million, $65 with nine cents.

7:18:08

The project will consist of the construction of bicycle facilities at various downtown locations, including bike lanes, shared use paths, and associated signage, striping, lighting, and intersection improvements.

7:18:21

Represent Canalis, move to approve.

7:18:23

All right, there's a motion and a second.

7:18:25

Good evening.

7:18:25

Good evening.

7:18:26

You have a presentation for us.

7:18:28

We do have a presentation that we did uh provide two weeks ago.

7:18:31

This item was postponed.

7:18:33

Um we had some questions that were brought up by some of the council members.

7:18:36

Uh two of those questions were was the contractor pre-qualified.

7:18:39

Their contractor is pre-qualified as of January 28th.

7:18:42

Text DOP did confirm uh the recommendation, our recommendation to award uh since the contractor was pre-qualified at the time of bid opening and met the time met the requirements of the solicitation.

7:18:53

So Text Ot did confirm and the contractor is pre pre-qualified as of January 28th.

7:18:58

Also, the I think Representative uh Acevedo and Chavez had brought up uh litigation, and we are not in litigation with the awardee or uh litigation against us.

7:19:07

So there's no litigation as far as that.

7:19:10

Okay.

7:19:11

You want to run through the presentation, or we've seen it before.

7:19:14

Okay, okay.

7:19:16

You good?

7:19:16

Just making sure.

7:19:17

Representative?

7:19:20

Thank you, Mayor.

7:19:20

And thank you for that clarification.

7:19:22

So from what I recall this, we postponed this for two weeks.

7:19:27

And so this was at the January 20th meeting, correct?

7:19:30

Yes, sir.

7:19:31

And at that meeting, um they weren't pre-qualified to can I clarify something?

7:19:38

Because last time we got this wrong.

7:19:40

Okay.

7:19:40

The City of El Paso is named as a defendant in the lawsuit with El Paso Arc.

7:19:46

So in the future, I'm gonna ask the lawyers to step up and answer before purchasing answers.

7:19:51

Because it it's that's not correct information.

7:19:54

Roberta Brito City Attorney's Office.

7:20:00

Um we did look into that litigation and we verified that it the city and ARC are co-defendants in a personal injury um case brought against a third, brought against the two by a third entity.

7:20:12

So if you got that straight, it's like X versus the City and ARC.

7:20:16

Does that make sense?

7:20:17

So we're on the same site as ARC.

7:20:19

That's correct.

7:20:20

Okay.

7:20:21

That makes it so both of us are against one party.

7:20:25

Yeah, we're well they're suing us each, and you know they're saying that we have different responsibilities and a lady fell through a grate down here at downtown, and they sued everybody.

7:20:38

We are grouped with everybody, including several other vendors that do business with the city.

7:20:44

One of those vendors has agreed to defend us in the lawsuit, which happens to be Martinez Brothers, who is also involved in other litigation with the city.

7:20:52

Okay.

7:20:53

That does not prohibit the council from awarding this contract.

7:20:57

Okay.

7:20:58

I appreciate the clarity.

7:20:59

That's really clear.

7:21:00

Thank you.

7:21:02

Um at the January 20th meeting, we postponed they were not pre-um qualified.

7:21:09

Yes, and so they got that pre-qualification in the time that we postponed this item.

7:21:13

So that just happened eight days after that January 20th meeting, correct?

7:21:16

They were already in the process of being pre-qualified.

7:21:19

Okay.

7:21:19

We did two things.

7:21:20

Um, and I I sent a lengthy email to all of you regarding this.

7:21:24

We wrote to Text Dot to confirm that our process was correct in terms of the way that it was brought forward.

7:21:30

They reconfirmed in email to us, which we included in the backup, that they were qualified to be awarded because of when they applied.

7:21:39

So what we explained to you when we were here before was they were going through a re-qualification process.

7:21:46

We reconfirmed that that did not need to take place for it to be awarded according to TechSont concurrent rules.

7:21:52

So we made sure you had that back up, and they were also in the process and they got that done at which which was one of the questions that was asked.

7:21:59

Okay, so it's almost like an added bonus in this whole thing.

7:22:01

We got clarification from Texas, but they still got pre-qualified either way.

7:22:05

Yes.

7:22:06

Okay.

7:22:06

I appreciate it.

7:22:07

Thank you so much.

7:22:08

Okay, any further discussion on item number 40?

7:22:11

We have public comment?

7:22:12

Yes, sir.

7:22:12

Ms.

7:22:13

Osmond.

7:22:21

You know.

7:22:23

I don't know how many of you have biked downtown, as you all have seen.

7:22:28

I do.

7:22:31

So I can't understand how we're doing three million dollars.

7:22:37

And yeah, it might be transportation, but it's a bank loan.

7:22:43

You know what that means?

7:22:44

That means it's debt on the city.

7:22:47

Right?

7:22:48

It don't if you get a loan, anybody gets a loan.

7:22:53

That means we're acquiring that debt, or in this case the city.

7:22:57

I would think.

7:22:59

Otherwise, it would have been a grant.

7:23:02

So three million dollars 2.59.

7:23:08

For an island of bike lanes that go nowhere.

7:23:14

You can't, it is dangerous as all get out to get downtown.

7:23:20

Yeah.

7:23:22

Who are these bike lanes for?

7:23:24

I would like that answer.

7:23:26

Is it for everybody who owns the hotels downtown?

7:23:31

For the stadium?

7:23:33

Like explain who they are for, because they're not for the citizens, because we can't get downtown to utilize these since there's no connecting bike lanes.

7:23:47

But I can't understand how we're we don't have money for lights or potholes and all this other, but we're gonna take out a bike loan for an island of bike lanes downtown to what pretty up the environment for the real estate developers, whether that is Paul Foster, so that the stadium can can look a certain the area.

7:24:15

Hey, who is it for?

7:24:19

Because it's not for actual citizens if we can't actually get down here safely.

7:24:26

And mind you, I did show y'all photographs that there are bike lanes put on piedras that are blacked out.

7:24:33

So that was money ill-spent.

7:24:36

And I kind of feel like this is also gonna be that bridge bike lane to nowhere.

7:24:43

But apparently for some reason, everybody really wants to put the city in $2.5 million debt for an island of lanes.

7:24:55

For I'm wondering who.

7:24:58

Is it for Paul Falster?

7:25:00

For the baseball stadium.

7:25:03

Who does this benefit really?

7:25:07

Please.

7:25:08

I mean, tell the citizens, Mr.

7:25:11

Canales, who is it really benefiting?

7:25:15

Because all of us pay the debt.

7:25:18

But we're not really going to get the benefit.

7:25:21

Thank you.

7:25:21

Unless you've reached the three minutes, get hit on the way.

7:25:24

Representative Canales.

7:25:27

Thank you, Mayor.

7:25:28

I'll offer just one clarification for the public, and that's that this is actually a text off funded the state state transportation funding funded project that has a small local match funded with a with a state infrastructure bank loan.

7:25:42

The loan is for nowhere near $2.5 million.

7:25:47

And the bulk of the funding comes from the state, uh, state transportation funding.

7:25:51

Thanks, Mayor.

7:25:52

All right.

7:25:53

Ms.

7:25:53

Prime, please call for the vote.

7:25:54

Yes, sir.

7:25:55

The motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative Limon, and this is to award the solicitation on item 40 on that motion.

7:26:04

Call for the vote.

7:26:12

In the voting session.

7:26:14

And the motion passes unanimously.

7:26:16

Representative Malonado Rocha not present.

7:26:19

Hey, Ms.

7:26:20

Brian, let's take item number 41, please.

7:26:22

Item 41 is discussion in action on the award of solicitation 2026-0095-2025 collector and arterial street resurfacing to International Eagle Enterprises, Inc.

7:26:34

for a total estimated amount of $35,427, $150.

7:26:40

This contract supports the City of Al Paso Street Resurfacing Providing Milling, paving, and asphalt rehabilitation of collector and arterial streets within the city right-of-way through task orders issued by the streets and maintenance department, including associated base repairs, concrete repairs, and other roadway improvements as needed with funding from multiple sources for both routine and expedited projects.

7:27:05

Second motion to prove in a second.

7:27:07

Representative Chavez.

7:27:09

Thank you, Mayor.

7:27:10

This question is more for Randy.

7:27:13

Thank you, Randy.

7:27:15

Good evening, Mayor.

7:27:16

Council, Randy Garcia.

7:27:19

Randy, I I think you've worked with uh Eagle Enterprises in the past, and I know street resurfacing is uh something that a lot of our community reaches out to us.

7:27:29

Um what has been your experience working with them?

7:27:36

Well, I mean, I know they've done street resurfacing in the past, is that correct?

7:27:41

Yes, in the past we've worked with them and they've been a good partner.

7:27:44

Thank you.

7:27:45

And because street resurfacing is such a big concern for our community, I think it's important that we ensure that uh whatever awards that we're giving uh to uh contractors for street resurfacing specifically um you know uh is followed through with because this is something that everybody you know really wants to get done, and I know that there's a lot of work in this area that we need to complete.

7:28:08

So I just want to ensure that working with them has been a good experience for us.

7:28:13

It has.

7:28:13

Thank you.

7:28:14

Thank you, Randy.

7:28:15

And Council, they have a three-page slide.

7:28:18

Does anyone want to say it?

7:28:20

You guys good?

7:28:22

You sure?

7:28:23

Okay.

7:28:24

Uh and sure, Representative uh Nino.

7:28:27

Thank you, Mayor.

7:28:28

And I think this is just a request.

7:28:30

Um, as soon as the contractor, uh Ms.

7:28:33

Mack, Randy, um, finalizes the schedule.

7:28:36

If you guys could please share that schedule with us by district, that that we could make our community aware of what's coming forward.

7:28:43

Just a simple request.

7:28:44

Yes, we will.

7:28:45

All right, thank you.

7:28:46

Appreciate you guys for this.

7:28:48

All right, Ms.

7:28:48

Prime, for the record.

7:28:49

I want to note that uh Eagle Enterprises gave me a campaign uh contribution.

7:28:55

All right, Ms.

7:28:55

Bryant, call for the vote.

7:28:57

We do have public comment from Marcos Molina.

7:29:10

Good evening.

7:29:11

Good evening, Mayor.

7:29:12

Hello, City Council.

7:29:13

Um Marcos Molina, I represent uh international eagle enterprises, uh, also known as Eagle Construction, and uh I kind of want to give a brief uh insight of who we are.

7:29:25

Um, eagle construction, that we are a local uh minority-owned contractor specializing in heavy civil highway and bridge construction with more than 20 years of experience serving the city of El Paso and the state of Texas.

7:29:38

Uh we currently do employ over uh nearly 200 local residents, um, which reinforces our commitment to workforce development, economic growth, and uh long term commu uh community investment.

7:29:51

Um we were honored to perform and successfully complete the city's 2023 collector and above street resurfacing program.

7:30:00

Uh the original scope anticipated approximately 100,000 tons of uh hot mix and through efficient planning, discipline execution, and effective resourcing management.

7:30:09

We delivered 153,000 on that project.

7:30:12

Um that's 153% of the planned volume while maintaining the original project schedule.

7:30:19

Um by accelerating, delivering and maximizing productivity, the city realized meaningful cost efficiencies and minimize disruption to residents by returning the streets to service a lot sooner.

7:30:30

Uh, for comparison, the prior street resurfacing contract achieved approximately 60 percent of the completion under their contract on the same amount of time.

7:30:39

Uh our performance has demonstrated that a local minority-owned firm can successfully deliver large-scale complex, heavy civil projects with accountability, um, efficiency, and measurable value to taxpayers.

7:30:55

Uh we are fully prepared to begin the next street resurfacing program under today's award framework.

7:31:00

Uh and we we respect so uh respectfully seek continued partnership with the city, streamline procurement's processes and opportunities to further enhance cost efficiency while mentoring and engaging local workers.

7:31:12

Uh thank you, Mayor and City Council members.

7:31:14

And Marcos, thank you for staying here through the evening with us.

7:31:16

Thank you, sir.

7:31:17

All right, Ms.

7:31:18

Prime, we have a motion and a second.

7:31:20

Would you please call for the vote?

7:31:21

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Representative Canales to award the solicitation on item 41.

7:31:28

On that motion, call for the vote.

7:31:33

And the voting session.

7:31:36

And the motion passes unanimously.

7:31:38

Representative Maldonado Rocha not present.

7:31:41

Okay, Ms.

7:31:41

Prime, let's take 42.

7:31:43

Item 42 is discussion in action on the request that the director of purchasing and strategic sourcing be authorized to issue purchase orders for solicitation 2026-0238.

7:31:54

Hologic testing supplies to Hologic Sales and Service LLC, the sole source for the Panther Instrument System Supplies Firmware and Field Service for a three-year term with an estimated amount of 285,000 dollars.

7:32:08

The supplier will be required to provide an updated sole source letter and affidavit each year, and the contract will provide testing supplies and standard annual preventative maintenance for the Panther integrated nucleic asset testing system.

7:32:21

Is there a motion to approve this item?

7:32:23

Second.

7:32:24

Okay, we have a motion and a second.

7:32:25

Any further discussion?

7:32:28

Ms.

7:32:28

Prime Call for the vote.

7:32:30

Yes, sir.

7:32:30

The motion was made by Representative Ganales.

7:32:34

Seconded by Representative Limon.

7:32:37

And this is to approve item 42 on that motion.

7:32:41

Call for the vote.

7:32:46

And the voting session.

7:32:48

And that motion passes unanimously.

7:32:50

Representative Maldonado Rocha not present.

7:32:53

Okay, let's take item number 43, please.

7:32:56

Item 43 is discussion and action on the award of solicitation 2026-0079 residential street resurfacing to Allied Paving Company of El Paso Inc., DBA Allied Paving Company for a total estimated amount of 19,839,245.50 cents.

7:33:15

The project will provide ongoing support for the city's street resurfacing program and will provide milling and paving for various residential streets.

7:33:25

There's a motion to approve.

7:33:26

Is there a second?

7:33:30

There is a presentation, but I think they've seen it.

7:33:33

Is that right?

7:33:34

Council?

7:33:35

Okay.

7:33:36

We have a motion and a second.

7:33:37

Hearing no discussion, Ms.

7:33:39

Prime, call for the vote.

7:33:40

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Mayor Potem Chavez, and this is to award the solicitation on item 43 on that motion.

7:33:50

Call for the vote.

7:33:57

And the voting session.

7:33:59

And that motion passes unanimously.

7:34:01

Representative Maldonado Rocha not present.

7:34:04

Okay, let's take item number 44, please.

7:34:07

Item 44 is discussion and action on a resolution authorizing the mayor to sign on behalf of the city of El Paso an approval for the street resurfacing list for the calendar years 2026-2027 attached as exhibit A of the resolution.

7:34:23

Okay.

7:34:23

Is there a motion to approve?

7:34:25

Move to approve.

7:34:26

Second.

7:34:26

Okay.

7:34:27

There is a presentation on this one.

7:34:29

Would anyone like to see this one?

7:34:30

Yeah.

7:34:31

Can we please see this one?

7:34:35

Randy Garcia with streets and maintenance.

7:34:36

Good evening, Mayor and Council.

7:34:40

So this request is to approve the resolution to select the next recommended streets.

7:34:47

I'm going to go through this a little quickly.

7:34:50

I've shown this before.

7:34:51

Alignment with goal seven, of course.

7:34:54

The purpose of a resolution is approve approval, request for approval, the new list of the streets recommended by the streets and maintenance resurfacing group for 2026 and 2027.

7:35:05

This again ensures equitable investment across the neighborhoods of the city of El Paso.

7:35:09

And it's to improve the overall citywide pavement condition index.

7:35:14

Some things we have talked about in the past, meeting with the different uh district representatives is the selection criteria, specifically highlighting the distribution, being equitable, getting into those areas that have a really low PCI score, trying to come complete neighborhoods that we have started in the past, looking at uh volume of traffic, estimated costs, um, project coordination is very important with the water utilities companies, the telecommunications companies, and all the other contractors working within on the streets of Al Paso.

7:35:43

And of course, the most important thing is a pavement conditioned index, making sure that we follow those guidelines that we have presented in the past, and that's trying to stay below that that 50 PCI score.

7:35:54

So again, this is just a reminder what the PCI where we do our grading at.

7:35:59

So we're trying to really focus on those resurfacing candidates.

7:36:01

We have on here between 20 to 60, but we have so many streets that are in that to hit that criteria that we really lowered that down to about 50.

7:36:09

Again, when you look at reconstruction streets, those are those very, very poor quality streets that are below 20.

7:36:15

And you look at the high ones above 80.

7:36:17

Of course, the city of El Paso would like to hit the PCI score of 70 across the board.

7:36:24

And just looking by district, where the PCIs, what the PCIs are.

7:36:28

So you can see uh district one, 72 percent, and of course, district five, rep Nino's district, high PCI score.

7:36:34

That's because of the new development that's out there.

7:36:36

You know, he has newer streets, the PCI score is going to be higher.

7:36:39

And you look at some of the worst ones, seven, eight, where we have really low PCI scores hitting below 60 or at 60.

7:36:45

And that's where we talk about the equitable equitable distribution of the money this year, but really paying attention to what council is asking us and what the citizens are looking at also.

7:36:55

So just a quick look look back, and this is to kind of frame it how we're going forward.

7:36:59

So in the past year, um, we did about 30.84 center line miles and spent close to 20 million dollars.

7:37:06

So trying to be ambitious, trying to raise that level, that level of expectation, that bar, trying to really challenge ourselves at streets and maintenance and our two-year outlook and how do we get there.

7:37:15

First and foremost, it's about having the funding available and the city council, city manager, and everybody else has helped us to ensure that we have that funding.

7:37:24

So we're looking at spending uh 63.18 million dollars in funding the next two years.

7:37:30

We do have approximately 66 million dollars available to us.

7:37:34

We left a little cushion just in case we see increased price crossing, or if the roads are in really bad condition that we're not expecting, we can deal with some of those uh unexpected costs that might come about.

7:37:44

Um, and then really trying to hit those center line miles 78.4, that's really a big jump up.

7:37:49

That's 39 uh center line miles.

7:37:52

That's a lot more than we've ever done in the past.

7:37:54

So really raising those expectations of of my staff of what we want to do, what the city of El Paso expects for us to get done.

7:38:02

How else do we do this?

7:38:04

We have you can see the funding aspect that I just talked about, increased contract capacity, that's the big part uh of it.

7:38:10

Um, in the past, we were using just two contractors.

7:38:13

We've awarded three contracts to date as of today.

7:38:16

We did two more.

7:38:17

So you can see our contract capacity over the next few years is 72 million dollars of resurfacing work that can be done by these uh different contractors, so long as they adhere to the scheduling and make sure they're doing a quality work.

7:38:29

And when we talked about quality work, we need to make make sure we have the staff available to oversee these contractors.

7:38:36

So in the past, we had about eight uh uncertified inspectors.

7:38:40

We went through the American Pavement Association to get 13 certified pavement inspectors in our group.

7:38:47

So we have 13 available people to help look over three contracts or partnering with CID to really get the contract administration and contract management portion of it down to make sure that we're in alignment with what the city wants as far as managing contractors, and then of course, increased utility coordination, making sure we're partnering with the water company with uh the telecom companies and the electric company or any other utility company out there to make sure that the roads that we're gonna pave are not gonna be disturbed within the next year year or so.

7:39:15

And again, this is uh the proposed streets.

7:39:18

Here's some collector roads that we looked at that we thought would help us to connect some areas that we've started Bandolero, Boeing, Stanton, and Cashner.

7:39:27

And then looking at district one, these are all residential roads.

7:39:32

Uh District 2, again, more residential streets.

7:39:36

District 3, district 4.

7:39:42

District 5 was not on there because we are doing the HA5 treatment, and we have gone over this and with uh Representative Nino.

7:39:49

So we do have a plan for them.

7:39:51

We do plan on uh we do have a contract that we've given over to purchasing for the HA5 treatment that hopefully we'll get toward here the next few months so we can get to those um streets um in Rep Nino District 5's area.

7:40:04

So district six, district uh seven, and district eight, and we have shared all these streets with the representatives.

7:40:14

So we're asking today um approval the resolution as follows.

7:40:19

The mayor be authorized to sign on behalf of the city of Al Paso the approval of the street resurfacing list for fiscal year 26-27, and those are just the streets that we presented just now.

7:40:28

Very good.

7:40:29

Representative Canalis.

7:40:33

Thank you, Mayor.

7:40:34

Um I simply wanted to say thank you for all the work on this.

7:40:37

I know it takes a ton of time to get to a final resurfacing list.

7:40:43

Um and then you know, to the public, uh, if your street isn't on this list, it doesn't mean there's no hope for you.

7:40:51

Um this is the next list that we will work through, but as always, we're constantly uh evaluating streets that are in the the that right category of condition uh where they become good resurfacing candidates and um please continue to let us know where you think that there's need and uh through the PCI process and the other evaluation tools.

7:41:15

Uh we'll continue to evaluate those.

7:41:17

So uh again, thank you to you and all the staff, and then uh two who uh it's TTI who does the the PCI study for us, right?

7:41:27

And everyone else who has a hand in this, it's a lot of people who work on getting us to a place where we have a uh final list.

7:41:33

Thank you.

7:41:33

Thank you, Mayor.

7:41:34

Thank you, Connellas.

7:41:35

Representative Nino.

7:41:36

Thank you, Mayor.

7:41:37

And thank you, Randy, thank you, Ms.

7:41:39

Mack, Vat, the entire team.

7:41:41

I know we've had numerous conversations about this specific item.

7:41:45

I know the presentation, the discussion and action is on here, but I know the presentation still has further slides.

7:41:51

I would like to go through them if that's okay, Mayor, just because it does cover um, you know, my district has high quality PCI scores in numerous streets or the majority of the streets, but there are some streets that are in need, such as you know, Monwood, Rich Beam, Tierra Este, which essentially we just approved a contract today, which will also get resurfacing within district five.

7:42:15

I also know that we're gonna be having the high density mineral bond overlay to help preserve the quality and the life of the street, which essentially is gonna provide cost savings in the future because we're being proactive in preserving those streets.

7:42:28

And also there is some other streets that are currently under contract that are also gonna have resurfacing, such as Wickle Valley, Vintana, Charles Foster, Jason Crandall, and Tim Foster.

7:42:37

So if you could just go through the presentation, um like that in case anyone is seeing it, they also are aware that you know, even though district five is not listed on the first portion of the presentation.

7:42:47

There's a lot of proactive measures that our staff and the team is doing to ensure that we address uh all the streets uh citywide so yes, I'll I'll go through the other streets.

7:42:59

These streets have been previously approved by previous councils, so we're still working on them, and now we do have the tools.

7:43:04

We have the contracts, we have three contracts going now.

7:43:07

We have one that's already actually active right now in our streets that you guys might see working out there right now.

7:43:12

Um so we do have the contracts now to start assigning these streets to a contractor.

7:43:17

The top 50 arterial roads was approved by council as part of the 20, 22 progress funds.

7:43:22

So you can see a listing of a petro of arterial roads that we're gonna get done over the next uh couple years.

7:43:28

Um so we have already kind of looked at what contract we're assigning it to, so we kind of have an idea of where we want to go.

7:43:34

Once we get the okay, the green light from purchasing and legal to go forward and start engaging with the contractor.

7:43:39

We'll start developing the timeline to develop to uh program these top 50 arterials throughout the city of Al Paso, and you can see they hit every district in the city.

7:43:48

So that's the top 50.

7:43:50

Here's a quick map of what it looks like.

7:43:52

Um, these are previously approved residential streets that have been approved by previous councils, some as part of the 2022 residential streets, and and uh a few of them after that.

7:44:00

Um these cover a lot of the districts as well.

7:44:03

Um two, three, four, uh seven, eight, and these will get done by one of the contract one of the residential contracts we've awarded over the past month.

7:44:15

Okay, we've already kind of identified that, and we will work with them once we're given the okay to start uh that residential contract.

7:44:22

The HA5, something that Rep Nino has asked asked us to look into uh again.

7:44:28

We have submitted this uh procurement to purchasing, so they'll get working on it.

7:44:32

Hopefully, we can get it out in uh two to three months.

7:44:35

This will be a big thing for uh the city of Al Paso.

7:44:39

This is gonna be a new tool that we'll use to help protect the integrity of those newly paved streets.

7:44:44

Working in District 5 helps us because those streets have a high PCI score, and as we start resurfacing streets throughout the different districts of Al Paso, we'll be able to start applying that HA5 treatment to those newly paved uh streets.

7:45:00

Um if you look at it in terms of cost savings, this contract is gonna be estimated about 1.3 million.

7:45:04

It would cost us close to 9.9 million, 9.8 million to actually resurface all these roads.

7:45:10

So you look at uh kind of deferred costs right now of 8.6 million, and knowing we're uh extending the life expendant expectancy of the streets five to seven years.

7:45:20

So this is a big win for us if we can get when we get this going.

7:45:23

And Randy, and thank you for walking me through the entire process.

7:45:25

I know I got to learn a lot about the mineral bond overlay, saw examples, figure it out, how it works.

7:45:31

Um so thank you for for meeting with me and going through the entire process with me for that.

7:45:35

You're welcome.

7:45:37

And then there's the streets.

7:45:38

And this these next slides will kind of illustrate how the money's uh separated and the amount of center lines by uh road type, the arterial roads, the residential roads, and then overall the next uh couple years, 26 and 27.

7:45:54

So you can see the district five that has a better PCI is of course getting less of of that funding.

7:46:01

Finally, we are working right now.

7:46:03

So just because we have these three contracts doesn't mean we don't have a contractor out there working right now.

7:46:07

We are working right now.

7:46:09

These are the streets that we expect to get finished by June, July.

7:46:13

We've met we met with the contractor actually yesterday to ensure that we are getting on the right track and adhering to the schedule that we have with them.

7:46:20

So we are working with them day in and day out, so you can see additional streets that we are working on in districts throughout the city of El Paso.

7:46:30

And um lastly, these are the roads that have been approved through the 2022 progress bond that do not have a contractor.

7:46:39

So you guys are probably aware that these streets are coming.

7:46:42

It just once we get through these next two years and we can get more contracts to sign down the road.

7:46:47

Um, we'll go ahead and assign those to the new contracts in the future.

7:46:54

And that is then real quick um just some CID projects that are coming up so you can be aware of how we're tying this all together, working with Mr.

7:47:03

Hernandez and CID to ensure that we took a big look at everything we're doing and work together to make sure we can deliver the best streets in the city of Al Paso over the next few years.

7:47:12

Thank you.

7:47:13

No further questions, Mayer.

7:47:14

Okay, Representative Chavez.

7:47:15

Thank you, Mayor.

7:47:16

Thank you, Randy, and to the team.

7:47:17

I know that we've been talking about this for months now.

7:47:20

I personally went and drove all the streets that you recommended in District One specifically because I wanted to see them for myself.

7:47:27

And I know that there are many more that possibly could get done that would probably even fall within that PCI level that you you talked about.

7:47:34

Uh and I just know that right now, at this time, you have prioritize them with your formula, and we have come to an agreement regarding what streets are going to get redone and for the the reasons that you've already specified.

7:47:48

So uh I know that this has been a very arduous task for you, um, and it's not an easy conversation to have.

7:47:56

There's many approaches, but I think that we've come to an agreement that this is the best one.

7:48:02

So this will be the list for the next two years unless something changes, unless we find funding in another source or something else happens down the road.

7:48:12

But for the next two years, we will continue to chip away at this list and and hopefully be at a better place in the future.

7:48:19

Um just to recap, then it's a little over 60 million.

7:48:24

Right for the next two years?

7:48:25

Is that right?

7:48:26

66.

7:48:27

66 million uh number of lane miles is 78.

7:48:32

78 lane miles.

7:48:34

So and you have three companies working with the different types of street collectors, arterials, residential, uh, to ensure that we are constantly working on on some part of the city.

7:48:47

Yes.

7:48:48

So we have one cut one contractor currently uh working on residential roads.

7:48:52

We awarded an arterial contract, the bigger roads that you guys uh will see Lee Trevino, uh Red, uh Sean Haggerty, those bigger roads, and then we'll have two more additional um residential contractors out there, and we're gonna kind of rotate them throughout the city to ensure that we are covering every parts of the city, and we don't want to clog and put all three contractors in just one part of the city at once.

7:49:14

We want to make sure we're rotating them and their schedule can meet that demand.

7:49:18

And this is new, right?

7:49:19

This is a new process that you've implemented.

7:49:21

I think we've always kind of had two contractors.

7:49:24

We haven't had the amount of funding necessary, maybe to carry that many contractors, and now we have enough to carry three.

7:49:30

And I think a challenge that I took upon myself and with some help, you know, my my the previous directors of the department, Mr.

7:49:37

Nandes is really challenging the local contractors to step up and really support the city of El Paso's quest to have good roads, right?

7:49:48

We've talked about it.

7:49:49

Could they handle 75 to 80 million dollars a year?

7:49:52

Well, if we push them, we're gonna find out.

7:49:55

And we're gonna push them, and we have the staff to oversee them to make sure we get good quality work.

7:50:00

We're trying to follow a singular process under the CID banner to ensure that we have good contract administration, contract management, make sure we're holding those contractors accountable, and we're gonna really push them these next two years to see how much what how much work they can actually produce.

7:50:15

And and I appreciate that, and I have full faith in you and the team and everyone else.

7:50:21

So thank you so much.

7:50:22

Did I miss anything that like another talking point that we should be aware of or a high level?

7:50:28

Something that we should communicate to the community that you would like for them to know?

7:50:32

I think it's gonna be a little patience as we get these new contractors going.

7:50:35

You know, we will get to the streets.

7:50:37

You know, feel free to share the listings that we have that I've shared with with the presentations.

7:50:42

You know, I don't take this task uh lightly.

7:50:45

I think it's very important that we do this.

7:50:46

It's something the citizens of El Paso takes, so I'm really trying to invest a lot of time and energy to make sure that we be successful in doing this, and I'm not coming back in a few months and saying I can't do it.

7:50:56

We have to do it.

7:50:57

We have to find a way to fight through those obstacles and get this done.

7:51:01

Thank you, Randy.

7:51:02

I think you do great work.

7:51:03

You and your team do great work.

7:51:04

Thank you so much.

7:51:05

Thank you.

7:51:05

Representative Lamont.

7:51:08

Thank you, Mayor.

7:51:10

Randy, as you were doing, giving your presentation on about slide six, you're talking about equitable distribution.

7:51:19

Yes.

7:51:20

Okay.

7:51:20

So if we look at that slide on page six, and I look at those numbers, and we're looking at the PCI.

7:51:29

Yes.

7:51:29

And 57.6.

7:51:33

Is that the lowest?

7:51:35

That is the lowest, yes.

7:51:36

That sure is.

7:51:37

Yes.

7:51:37

It's in district seven, right?

7:51:38

Yes.

7:51:39

Okay.

7:51:40

Equitable distribution.

7:51:43

If you look at slide on page 30, and we're going to look 30, and we'll probably look at 31 as well.

7:51:50

Look at the first slide.

7:51:51

Residential budget allocation.

7:51:55

So, yes.

7:51:56

So the way we're looking at it is we started that with the streets that we did for selected for this year.

7:52:03

Previously, all the top 50 arterials were previously selected.

7:52:06

So that's looking at everything over the next couple of years.

7:52:10

So there's already been a pet there, uh, a lot of streets in the arterials that are very expensive that I've been uh selected for resurfacing.

7:52:17

So we took that into complete account.

7:52:19

But going forward in the criteria that we did for this election, for the ones that um is that's part of the resolution, that's where we did that equitable distribution.

7:52:28

It was it wasn't done in the past, and when I did some investigations into other cities, I looked at uh uh Dallas briefly.

7:52:35

Um they do something similar where they break it down by district and they put more money where those streets are uh they do it a little bit differently, but they put more money at those lower economic disadvantage areas and ones with lower PCI.

7:52:47

I looked at San Antonio, they do something very similar where they invest more money in the areas of the city that have a lower PCI.

7:52:54

So it's something we introduced for this selection.

7:52:57

And when you look at the overall selection for the next two years, it's not gonna be as apparent.

7:53:00

But if you look at the ones we did select for for this resolution, then you'll see it.

7:53:05

And I can share that information with you again.

7:53:07

Well, I think that would be much clearer though.

7:53:09

Okay, because I think you're putting apples and oranges into this slide.

7:53:12

Okay.

7:53:13

This is not clear.

7:53:15

My understanding as I look at this slide, and I'll bet you my constituents when they see this slide, they're gonna say, oh, gee, on page six, we are the lowest one.

7:53:25

Page 31, please.

7:53:26

Right now, we are on 30.

7:53:29

I'm on 30.

7:53:30

Still.

7:53:31

It's a different residential numbers are different.

7:53:33

Oh, I'm sorry.

7:53:34

Yes, the numbers are different.

7:53:35

31.

7:53:36

Residential budget allocation.

7:53:38

That's the one.

7:53:39

All right, we're all on the same page now.

7:53:41

So my constituents are gonna say, wait a minute, wait a minute.

7:53:45

This is a district that has a greatest need with the highest number of lowest PCI streets.

7:53:54

Yes.

7:53:54

And this does not reflect it.

7:53:56

Okay.

7:53:56

As I look at this document.

7:53:59

And so you're telling me it's because you're adding things from the past, streets that you've done in the past.

7:54:06

So in the past was district seven higher.

7:54:14

The PCI, we didn't take that into consideration as far as the way that the funding is spread out.

7:54:20

It wasn't taken into consideration.

7:54:21

It was didn't take into consideration what?

7:54:24

The way that the funding was spread out based on the PCI.

7:54:26

You did not use the PCI.

7:54:28

They'd use the PCI.

7:54:29

It's just to spread it out based on the PCI, the lowest uh district getting the most amount of money.

7:54:34

They it was always spread out equity uh equally amongst the that's unequal.

7:54:38

Yes.

7:54:39

Please don't say it's equal because it isn't.

7:54:41

Before it was equal.

7:54:43

I it I I can tell you, I share this with my constituents.

7:54:47

This is not equal.

7:54:48

And and and I look at the the other uh graphs that you have there, and they're all consistent.

7:55:03

Because uh, how am I gonna show my constituents this?

7:55:07

And you may not be around to explain it, and and I know I would have a very difficult time explaining it to them.

7:55:14

How our rate is 57.6, and yet when budgeting, when funding comes around, we're at 4.1.

7:55:25

And we've got another district at 8.0.

7:55:28

How is that fair?

7:55:31

So I I understand your frustration.

7:55:34

So I will clarify that.

7:55:36

Thank you very much.

7:55:38

Representative.

7:55:40

Thank you, Mayor.

7:55:41

Uh I just wanted to thank you for all your work, Randy.

7:55:46

I know that um you probably are have the hardest job in terms of what the people really want.

7:55:54

You are carrying a lot of weight in terms of the streets, and that's the thing that people talk to us most about, or at least in my district, that happens quite often.

7:56:03

And so I really appreciate how intentional you've been over the last months.

7:56:10

I really love your presentations.

7:56:12

I told you that you make my favorite presentations at the city, and I I truly mean that.

7:56:16

It's always very clear, and you're not always giving me the information that I want to hear.

7:56:24

But I appreciate how you take that feedback and we kind of look for different solutions, and I appreciate how we ended up here.

7:56:34

And I think that there's there's a lot of room for growth in in terms of district two and streets, because we do have some of the worst streets in the entire city.

7:56:43

It's also some of the oldest um part of town.

7:56:47

So I I thank you for everything you did over the last few months.

7:56:51

I wanted to ask you.

7:56:58

So how do you see yourself bringing information to council to see how you're doing on this to make sure that this gets done in the next two years?

7:57:10

I I think it's really important for me to schedule meetings with with everybody, you know, working with Ms.

7:57:15

Mack and uh my DCM, Ms.

7:57:17

Renandez to ensure that I'm giving them the information first so they can vet it out with me and bring a better understanding.

7:57:24

I totally understand Ripley Mode's concerns, and I need to work on that.

7:57:27

So it's about making these presentations better, easier to understand, more relevant to what you guys want to hear um throughout the year, and not just bring them once or twice, you know, quarterly or figure out a better way to do the presentations so you guys can be feel more involved sharing the information as we go through the list and have our completed streets sharing that information with you so you can get that out to your constituents as well.

7:57:51

And and that that sounds great.

7:57:53

I think that there's been a lot of anxiety that I have personally with one of the contractors because you know we're we awarded 18 million, I believe, to contractor that had only done about 60 percent of the work.

7:58:06

We've talked through that.

7:58:08

We hope that there's gonna be more accountability over that contractor, but I don't want these streets to get behind schedule.

7:58:15

And I know and I know you understand the message very clear, but I also want to understand how things are going and just based on the presentations that you're giving us and the amount of data that you're putting together and the way you're presenting information.

7:58:28

I feel that maybe there could be some sort of benchmarks that you're looking at and giving this information, and you know that that'll be up to Ms.

7:58:35

Mack to your DCM, etc.

7:58:38

But just as we process that information, I I really want to keep an eye on where we're at with these things, because then I look at the slides at the end where some of these are being carried over from not being finished in the last two years.

7:58:54

So I I don't want to get to that point with these, and I know things can happen and some things can be out of your control, but I hope that we're not carrying over that many streets and that they're actually gonna be done on time.

7:59:06

Okay, I do understand.

7:59:07

And then the one last thing on the next two years, um, we're looking at fiscal year 26 and 27 for the what we're approving, right?

7:59:17

For the funding, yes, and the contract can carry over because of the time we're awarding it also.

7:59:21

So we may see it go a little bit past that time.

7:59:24

Okay, so what that means is that right now we're in fiscal year 26.

7:59:28

Yes.

7:59:28

So you already have an approved budget for the rest of fiscal year 26.

7:59:32

Yes.

7:59:32

And then you have the roadmap for the budget that we're gonna look at.

7:59:35

Yes.

7:59:36

This summer for fiscal year 27.

7:59:38

Yes, sir.

7:59:38

We do.

7:59:39

We do.

7:59:39

And then working with Ms.

7:59:40

Fernandez about the drawdowns for the bond money.

7:59:43

I mean, we know we get the 10 million for the pay go if it's stays in our budget going forward, and that's what we're we're kind of uh developing that that way forward, and then looking at the drawdowns for the bond money to make sure that we're in line with what DCM Hernandez wants us to do.

7:59:57

Um that's another way we're looking forward into the future.

8:00:00

Okay.

8:00:00

I appreciate it, Randy.

8:00:01

Thank you so much.

8:00:02

Represent Nino?

8:00:04

Thank you, Mayor.

8:00:05

Randy, and I'm gonna ask some questions about the PCI.

8:00:08

I know I've already asked and I know the answers, but just so that the public could understand.

8:00:11

Um when was the last PCI study done?

8:00:14

June of 2022.

8:00:16

And usually when a PCI study is done, how long does it take for it to be done citywide?

8:00:20

The citywide one could take up up to a year.

8:00:23

Up to a year, okay.

8:00:24

And when do we expect the next possible PCI study to be done?

8:00:28

So we're working at the city right now to determine when we're gonna do the next one.

8:00:32

We need to find the funding.

8:00:33

It is expensive to do a citywide PCI.

8:00:35

Um typically you do them five to seven years, so we need to look at doing it pretty soon here, and something we're working on internally to determine that.

8:00:42

Perfect.

8:00:42

No, thank you for that.

8:00:43

And I echo, you know, in regards uh schedules.

8:00:46

Um really looking at the cost now versus the future and ensuring that the contractor understands that so that there's no future conversation of um what it could potentially cost in the future if the project isn't get done within the timelines that were originally intended to our bid process.

8:01:03

But uh again, thank you for all your work and and we're looking forward to to further collaboration.

8:01:07

Thank you.

8:01:08

Thank you.

8:01:08

Representative Chavez.

8:01:10

Thank you, Mayor.

8:01:11

Uh one last question, Randy.

8:01:13

On slide 38, where it says approved top 50 arterial not programmed.

8:01:19

They're approved uh by what or by whom?

8:01:23

They were approved in 2022 as part of the progress progress bond.

8:01:27

Okay.

8:01:28

And I know uh last council meeting a couple of weeks ago, we deprogrammed some things, and some of them were approved by by a bond.

8:01:36

So uh what guarantees do we have that these streets here are listed will not get deprogrammed in the future?

8:01:44

So there's still funding.

8:01:45

The funding is coming from the progress bond.

8:01:47

The thing this is missing is a contractor.

8:01:49

So as soon as we go through this next two years, we'll bring these back when we do um the next two years, 28-29, and then we'll we should have contractors new getting new contractors when these contracts expire, and then we'll attach these to that contractor.

8:02:06

The funding's already there.

8:02:07

It's about the the drawdowns for the bonds over the next four years going forward.

8:02:11

Okay.

8:02:12

I I'm just I just want to make sure that we don't for whatever reason have an increase in cost and then don't have enough money from the bond to cover these arterials that have already been programmed.

8:02:22

Excuse me.

8:02:23

Or not programmed yet, but uh approved.

8:02:25

So we are looking closely at those costs to make sure that it's not true that it won't increase enough to what it will be effective of our original estimated costs back then.

8:02:34

There probably will be some difference, but it's really on us to work work and know what these cost differences differences could be in the next few years.

8:02:45

Um we did see a slight increase from our trial contracts, and that's the streets we're talking about.

8:02:50

Um but hopefully when we get to that next point, we won't see a big increase in cost, and we can still do them with the allocated amount.

8:02:57

I think it goes back to something that Repo Savelo asked about keeping you guys informed as you're going through this process.

8:03:03

And if we do see these costs increasing, that we start getting it to Mrs.

8:03:06

Max table and telling you this is something we see.

8:03:09

How do we go forward with this and getting that uh guidance from uh city management?

8:03:14

The progress plan, ma'am, what was intended to be over 10 years, and so we're we're showing it here, and was never the intention that we would draw down all those dollars at the same time, and so those are sort of laid out.

8:03:26

Escalation should have been included in those based on the year that we would be drawing down those dollars.

8:03:32

The items that were um deprogrammed were um um certificates of obligation for which we did not issue the debt.

8:03:41

But there was I think two items in there, um a trail and some lighting, I think that was part of a bond uh with in that agenda item as well.

8:03:51

I think it was a combination trail.

8:03:59

Yeah, I I think there was a couple from the presentation I remember, but I just want to be sure because this is such a an important topic, but I appreciate it.

8:04:07

Thank you.

8:04:08

Okay.

8:04:09

Representative canales.

8:04:10

You're good?

8:04:13

Any additional questions for Randy?

8:04:15

Randy, be sure to thank the team uh that's fixing the potholes.

8:04:19

I've seen them out uh in the fog, and I mean they've been doing a really good job trying to get the roads back to to being drivable, but please thank them for us.

8:04:29

I will I will thank you.

8:04:31

And we have public comment, Ms.

8:04:32

Pry.

8:04:32

Yes, sir.

8:04:33

We have Ms.

8:04:33

Sylvia Carrion that's in the queue.

8:04:35

Ms.

8:04:35

Carrion Star 6, please to unmute your telephone.

8:04:41

Ms.

8:04:42

Carrion star six, please.

8:04:48

Try one more time, Miss Carrion.

8:04:50

Start six.

8:04:58

You're still on mute, ma'am, star six.

8:05:00

Star six.

8:05:06

You're you're okay now, ma'am.

8:05:09

You have three minutes.

8:05:15

Yes, ma'am.

8:05:16

Go ahead.

8:05:16

Yes, we can hear you.

8:05:18

Thank you.

8:05:19

Thank you so much.

8:05:19

Silvia Carrion, president of the Mission Valley Civic Association.

8:05:24

I have been waiting uh for a long time about this.

8:05:27

Uh I had approached um looking for the streets.

8:05:31

Uh I had uh sent uh Ms.

8:05:33

Limon uh a letter back in July in reference to a street in in uh in her district.

8:05:39

It's off of Loma Land.

8:05:40

The street is Holloway place.

8:05:42

It's a dead end street.

8:05:44

Um and it was approved uh to be uh resurfaced back in 2012 in the bond of 2012.

8:05:51

Uh it got bypassed by a lot of things and looking at um researching um uh records, uh a bunch of caliche was put on the road, and so that kind of satisfied them for for the meantime, but it's gotten worse and worse, and uh I sent pictures to Ms.

8:06:10

Limon.

8:06:11

I sent I also got some other people involved, Mr.

8:06:14

Vidamontes from the streets, and I finally got a hold of Mr.

8:06:17

Garcia today or yesterday, and uh talked to him.

8:06:21

I sent him some pictures uh the damages that are on Holloway, and uh he agreed that it was yes, terrible.

8:06:30

And I asked him about the resurfacing, and uh the comment that he gave me was that um this is not resurfable.

8:06:38

This needs to be reconstructed completely.

8:06:40

That's how bad the street is.

8:06:43

And so um in trying to get uh things done uh for the community, as I've always tried to do, I'm addressing these issues and uh the people living on Holloway, Mr.

8:06:55

Hector Virales, Maria Herrera, Esperanza Santiana, Daniel Dominguez, um and Maria Castanera, Ray Fonseca, and other family members that live there.

8:07:08

I really wish that um since this is a 2012 bond issue, and I know everything goes down by way.

8:07:16

Uh okay, so it wasn't done and okay, and that wasn't done.

8:07:21

Okay, but can we do something about it?

8:07:23

And I'm addressing this to the mayor and city manager.

8:07:27

Please help us with this situation.

8:07:30

And uh Mr.

8:07:31

Garcia is aware of the situation, and we need some help uh here on this little street.

8:07:37

It's not too big, it's a dead end street.

8:07:39

And it's a dead end street.

8:07:41

And so I will appreciate that uh we get some help, Mr.

8:07:45

Garcia.

8:07:46

I talk to you, and hopefully we can address this issue in the near future.

8:07:51

Uh two years is too long.

8:07:53

We've been we've been waiting uh uh a lot longer than that.

8:07:57

So I thank you all very much for your time and boy, have you guys had a day today.

8:08:02

Thank you.

8:08:03

God bless you all.

8:08:04

All right, thank you.

8:08:05

Ms.

8:08:06

uh representative Lamont.

8:08:08

Yes, Mayor.

8:08:09

I um I did receive um both of those communications from um from Mrs.

8:08:16

Carrion, and then we reached out to Randy to see if we could get some kind of uh explanation, and I was told that I could ask him at the meeting today.

8:08:27

So could I have a response?

8:08:30

So that was originally as part of the 20 uh 12 uh bond allocation.

8:08:36

It was we did some initial research um after I spoke to Ms.

8:08:39

Carrion just to see what happened.

8:08:42

Um so we looked at it, and it appears that some of the land around her street need to be acquired, and that was not able to be done, and that's why her sheet was not recommended to move forward at the time.

8:08:54

I'm still gonna make sure that we research more and get with uh Rep Limon's office to provide uh additional information if we can find it, but in initial research, that's what we found.

8:09:05

And I know Rep Limon has already reached out on Monday.com to get that item on there, so we will be working on that to make sure we can get her all the relevant information as soon as possible.

8:09:14

I think that um communication is really important.

8:09:17

Um this is the first time that I hear about land not being acquired.

8:09:21

I don't know if Mrs.

8:09:22

Carrion is aware of that or not.

8:09:25

But I mean uh communication.

8:09:28

I I just I agree.

8:09:30

I can't stress enough.

8:09:31

Thank you.

8:09:31

Yeah, Randy, the more overcommunication we can do the better.

8:09:34

Yes.

8:09:35

Um just to be clear, I've been I she talked to me yesterday like at three o'clock, but uh staff started saying let's do some research.

8:09:42

Uh DCM Hernandez had me do some more research that we already found out about what what could what was occurring, so I just need to make sure that whatever information we give you is valid and up to date and the most pertinent information to provide to you guys.

8:09:55

Okay.

8:09:56

Thank you.

8:09:56

Ms.

8:09:57

Prime, please call for the vote.

8:09:58

Yes, sir.

8:10:00

The motion was made by Representative Granales, seconded by Representative Limon, and this is to approve item 44 on that motion.

8:10:06

Call for the vote.

8:10:10

And the voting session.

8:10:12

And that motion passes unanimously.

8:10:14

Representative Maldonado Rocha, not present.

8:10:17

Okay, let's take item number 45.

8:10:19

Item 45 is discussion in action on a resolution authorizing the mayor to execute an interlocal agreement and any necessary administrative amendments upon review by the city attorney between the City of El Paso and the town of Van Horn, Texas, in connection with a third water pressure zone project and approving the provision of $600,000 in grant funds from the TED program fund to support the project.

8:10:42

Is there a motion to approve this item?

8:10:43

Move to approve.

8:10:45

Okay.

8:10:45

Karina, good evening.

8:10:47

Good evening.

8:10:48

Presentation?

8:10:48

Yes.

8:10:49

Okay.

8:10:50

Karina Brazgala, uh, economic and international development.

8:10:53

If it's all right with everyone, I'll kind of click quickly through these first slides.

8:10:57

They are background information on the fund, the policy, um, the availability and allocations to date, and then the process for that.

8:11:04

So I'll pick up with slide seven, but if there's any questions, I'm happy to go back.

8:11:09

And you all just recently saw uh another request from the TED Fund, so much of this is the same.

8:11:14

This is uh an interlocal agreement because it is with the town of Van Horm of Van Horn, excuse me, it's been a very long day.

8:11:21

Um the applicant was the Rio Grande Council of Governments on their behalf.

8:11:24

The town of Van Horn Council has reviewed and approved this request, so they are comfortable with all the terms that we have outlined.

8:11:29

The project request is for $600,000 to contribute to a already secured uh EDA grant from the federal government and matching local funds, totaling three million for the construction of a third water pressure zone and an elevated water tank, which would allow the town of Van Horn to lift an existing commercial water moratorium and allow both public and private development to occur.

8:11:55

Here's a map of the elevated water tank, some of the existing area, and then kind of where that water pressure zone would provide service for.

8:12:04

And then a little bit of background for anybody watching.

8:12:06

So, one, the Texas Economic Development Fund and policy does apply to the entire West Texas uh region for El Paso Electric.

8:12:13

So it does extend beyond the City of El Paso limits, which is why this request is eligible.

8:12:18

Van Horn is the seat of Culberson County.

8:12:21

They have about 2,000 residents on a permanent basis, but they are home to significant oil and gas mining, rare earth mining, um, ecotourism with Beg Big Bend, the mountains, the McDonald Observatory, um, Marfa, Alpine, et cetera.

8:12:35

And then Blue Origin, which also has a presence here in El Paso at the El Paso International Airport.

8:12:40

Because of that uh temporary kind of populations where you have tourism, you have people coming in town for launch sites, you know, you might have staff on site for that time, but they don't live there permanently.

8:12:50

The per capita usage for water in Van Horn is about 266 gallons, uh, which is significantly higher than the national average of 82 gallons.

8:13:00

So they desperately need additional water pressurization tank capacity, um, which is why they went after this grant with the economic development administration and were successful in receiving that award.

8:13:11

So the projected impact uh is one immediately to uh complete this project and allow the town of Van Horn to meet the uh TCEQ water pressure regulations, which allows them to lift that water moratorium, enabling the development on the public side of a new housing authority development and a new emergency management services facility serving this area.

8:13:32

Uh they have also provided letters of commitment on private investment, uh including additional housing uh market rate and private investment in hotels and hospitality, so restaurants retail to provide kind of that projected growth from space tourism activity, provide some additional you know, funding there.

8:13:49

Um 25 million in private investment, 70 temporary construction jobs, and 74 permanent jobs.

8:13:54

Again, these are just the commitments on record.

8:13:56

They do expect that there would be additional developments coming in.

8:14:00

And then we do uh plan to support the 225 existing jobs with Blue Origin located in Van Horn.

8:14:07

So what the economic development department is charged with is reviewing for compliance with the TED Fund policy.

8:14:13

So this does meet the project type and location.

8:14:16

It is public infrastructure within the Texas service area.

8:14:19

It meets the minimum job and investment impact, which is uh at least 100 jobs and 10 million in investment.

8:14:27

And then it is essential for the location or expansion of businesses in our key industries of tourism and aerospace.

8:14:33

Um, and it is in a non-target area, so it meets all of that.

8:14:36

And then it does meet the local match requirement.

8:14:38

Uh, this is different than other requests that council has previously uh approved.

8:14:42

Preference is given within city limits to things that are leveraged with substantial non-TED funding.

8:14:48

When a project is outside of the City of El Paso limits, there is a requirement for local match at at least 100 percent.

8:15:00

So Van Horn is directly matching us with that 705740, so to our 600,000 request, and then an additional 2 million in funding through the grant.

8:15:08

Staff does recommend approval as the proposed agreement and interlocal uh meets the requirements of the policy, demonstrates a sufficient net positive impact to the EPE Texas service area and does support the regional advancement of our key industries.

8:15:23

Happy to take any questions.

8:15:25

Representative.

8:15:30

Karina, can you touch a little bit?

8:15:34

I see this as helping our backyard to make our home a whole lot better.

8:15:38

Um can you talk a little bit about the people that live in El Paso work blue origin and those kinds of things, please?

8:15:44

Yes.

8:15:45

Um and there had been some questions earlier on when we were scoping this out.

8:15:48

It's it's kind of hard because it's a lot of indirect, but I think one, you know, if you've ever traveled to Van Horn, if you've gone to MARFA, if you've done hiking at Big Bend, one, a lot of that is tourism coming from El Paso spending money there.

8:15:59

But uh a lot of those visitors fly through our airport, come and stay in El Paso and head out there.

8:16:04

Uh Blue Origin also can't be understated.

8:16:06

It's a huge regional driver out in Van Horn, and so seeing that workforce development paired with what's happening in El Paso, um, those workforces really feed off of each other and are you know partnering on their growth out there, and so there's uh I think a lot of benefit to something that is you know, a neighbor is qualified, um, but also has those direct links uh to our tourism sector, our hospitality, and our aerospace.

8:16:33

Thank you.

8:16:34

I I first heard this through um my participation on the COG and then with you and uh uh presentation, and I'm very happy to approve this stuff.

8:16:43

Thank you.

8:16:44

And Annette Igutieres from the COG was online.

8:16:46

She had a flight at 7 30, so I don't think she's still there.

8:16:49

But if there are any like lingering questions, I'm happy to put you all in touch.

8:16:54

Representative Chavez.

8:16:55

Thank you, Mayor.

8:16:56

Thank you, Karina.

8:16:57

Um, I know we've had uh lots of conversations about this, but there was um something that came out just recently on the news on Friday regarding Blue Origin and it pausing all of its um rocket program.

8:17:11

Um and it's pivoting and doing something completely different now.

8:17:15

I'm not sure um how much you've looked into this uh in regards to how it will affect their um their uh employment there and anything that in regards to um what you just mentioned uh the 220 jobs and other activity that directly would impact this decision today.

8:17:37

So the request still meets the minimum requirements.

8:17:40

Blue Origin was a nice to have it, was not what a letter of commitment that was on there.

8:17:44

Um we do have connections with them.

8:17:45

We work with their operations at the Opass International Airport, but we don't have like specifics on you know where they have staff allocated or how that might impact their operations.

8:17:53

As you said, it's a very recent announcement.

8:17:55

I think regardless, Van Horn has very historically been a eco-tourism and hospitality driver for the region, and again, it does meet the requirements of the policy, even without that aerospace component.

8:18:07

Okay, so we don't have to consider uh Blue Origin as part of this uh decision.

8:18:12

No, and the interlocal agreement does provide that if the project is not completed, if those commitments are not delivered, if anything changes about that, this money is recapturable.

8:18:20

Okay.

8:18:21

Um in addition to that, I'm just wondering because I think this would be the first time we invest in something outside of the city.

8:18:28

And I'm and I know that it it falls within the scope of the TED fund and all of what you just mentioned, but what if every other uh green dot on slide five uh were to come and request uh some funding as well?

8:18:43

Um, what percentage of that would that would it be uh with what we're allocating?

8:18:48

So there's no requirement.

8:18:51

Um it does the policy is flexible, so the role of the department and staff is to review for compliance of the policy.

8:18:58

The ultimate approval and denial is at the discretion of city council.

8:19:01

So an application, a compliance of the policy um does not mean that money is available or will be awarded.

8:19:09

Um and so if other folks came in, it's really up to council to figure out kind of those weights.

8:19:14

Um I think proportionally it's an 80 million dollar fund.

8:19:17

600,000 is not you know a huge chunk of that.

8:19:20

Um, but I would also, and I don't know if Ms.

8:19:23

But we're also going into the strategic planning session, that two-year action plan.

8:19:26

Um the TED fund is one of our strongest tools, but uh obviously it runs out, and so I think there's some question there about making sure that this is aligned with the rest of our policies and priorities, and that's how we would make those decisions going forward.

8:19:37

Okay, so the 600,000 in terms of percentages for what we've allocated this year, what would that be?

8:19:42

Do you know?

8:19:43

Well, so this is the second request that's come forward in this calendar here.

8:19:47

But for something outside the city, I'm just wondering.

8:19:50

Because this would be the first time we do that, right?

8:19:51

So you uh you want proportional to what we've allocated this year.

8:19:56

I don't know if I can do that math question.

8:19:57

Not the 80 million, because that's over 15 years, right?

8:20:00

Oh, thank you.

8:20:00

And that's not here.

8:20:01

Uh no.

8:20:02

So you all recently approved 2.325 for Rancho Del Rey.

8:20:07

Um, and then this an additional six hundred thousand.

8:20:10

So that would bring your total up to just under three million.

8:20:15

So I'm gonna, I guess if I'm doing back of the document, we get five point three annually more or less three fifths.

8:20:22

I don't know if I can do the percent in my head this late in the day.

8:20:27

Fair enough.

8:20:28

Okay.

8:20:29

Um I just want to make sure that uh we're being mindful of the changes that are happening in this area, and of course, um, the allocation of funding if others were to come forth and request the same thing.

8:20:40

So thank you, Karina.

8:20:42

Represent Annette is in the queue in case there were any direct questions for the applicant.

8:20:48

Hi, folks.

8:20:49

Um, I just really quickly wanted to um address uh the concerns from Representative Chavez.

8:20:54

I did have no idea.

8:20:56

Miss Brian, who is this?

8:20:57

This is Ms.

8:20:57

Annette Gutierrez from the COG.

8:20:59

Yes.

8:21:00

I'm so sorry.

8:21:01

I thought yes, this is Annette Gutierrez for the record executive director of the Rio Grande Council governments.

8:21:06

Um I landed.

8:21:07

I'm here at the airport, so hopefully you don't hear um too loud of uh the intercom, but I just wanted to address Representative Chavez's concern with regard to Blue Origin.

8:21:16

They have put a pause on new Shepherd, and they're doing that for two years.

8:21:20

They're focusing on uh the lunar capabilities, but that does not mean that they're not um still focused in Van Horn.

8:21:28

In fact, they're looking at um they're maintaining their workforce and they are looking at um increasing that workforce over the next several years.

8:21:36

And so those that were on New Shepherd are going to be transitioned uh into other areas within um uh uh the Van Horn facility.

8:21:46

Um and so uh just wanted to give you all a little bit of uh um an understanding and and hopefully uh a reassurance that although there is a pause on new Sherpa, that doesn't mean that there's not going to be the continuing innovation that's been occurring at uh Blue Origin, where um estimated the estimated amount is about 35 individuals who are traveling um from El Paso to the site um on a daily basis as as employees.

8:22:17

Thank you.

8:22:18

Representative Chavez.

8:22:19

Any more questions for okay?

8:22:21

Representative.

8:22:22

Thank you, Mayor.

8:22:23

And I was just kind of looking through um what Representative Chavez brought up.

8:22:28

And one of the quotes that I found says that the knee shepherd decision came as a surprise to some Blue Origin employees, and it is widely seen as a cancellation of the program.

8:22:36

Company staff told Reuters speaking anonymously.

8:22:40

So I'm just kinda wondering if Blue Origin isn't part of this and it goes away.

8:22:49

You said that it's still okay, and it's still gonna be okay because of the high oil gas mining, the rare earth mining and the tourism to Big Ben, Guadalupe Mountains, et cetera.

8:23:01

So that would be a determination of council, you all can take that into account.

8:23:04

Uh, in terms of policy compliance, we have commitments for at least 100 jobs and at least 10 million dollars of investment.

8:23:10

Um, none of those letters of commitments involved Blue Origin, but we did want to make note of their existing workforce in Van Horn.

8:23:17

Um, and then I'll just go back.

8:23:18

Juan helped me out with the math.

8:23:20

So we're talking about this is an allocation of about 11% of this calendar year's TED Fund allocation, uh, probably less than one percent of the overall that the city will receive over the length of this fund.

8:23:31

Okay, and I I'm just kind of wondering because this whole time that we've been talking about this specific allocation, Blue Origin has been like the main protagonist on all of this, right?

8:23:42

And so now as we're kind of hearing this at the point where we're gonna approve it, we're still gonna be okay with uh Blue Origin.

8:23:53

You know, so the request is the policy.

8:23:58

And there's and you're saying it complies with the policy and there's controls just in case something goes wrong, we could pull the money back and get it.

8:24:05

So yeah, the recapture on this would be if the project is not completed, uh the focus of this is the water pressurization project um and the commercial water permits.

8:24:16

And you don't really talk to Blue Origin is what you were saying.

8:24:19

We we discuss it with them, but um, you know, and they have operations that'll pass international airport, we coordinate on operations, and I think they have a good presence with the COG.

8:24:27

I know Summer Web is out here pretty frequently, making sure to talk to community partners engage in that sort of thing.

8:24:32

As Annette says, we haven't gotten any word that they're immediately pausing operations or that we anticipate a huge impact, but it is early.

8:24:39

Um and so they've been a good partner, they continue to keep us apprised of that point.

8:24:43

But in terms of I think there'd been like a question about specific, you know, how many employees are they sending between locations and how many people are going between that's confidential, that's proprietary information.

8:24:52

So we don't have that, but we have a sense of you know you can see people moving in and out of the area.

8:24:57

Okay.

8:24:58

Thank you.

8:25:00

And Miss Gutierrez has her hand raised in.

8:25:01

Yes, please then uh chip in, because I know you've you've been working on this more closely.

8:25:05

Uh yes, I would just like to offer for Representative Acevedo, we can definitely uh have this as a uh committee meeting, or if you would like to have uh a one-on-one meeting with uh Mayor Webb at a Valentine, who also serves as the uh deputy director out of Blue Origin.

8:25:23

Uh she can definitely give you uh the uh what what they're looking at in terms of um the Van Horn site and what they're wanting to accomplish in the next several years.

8:25:34

And so I I do understand you read that uh Roger's article.

8:25:38

Uh I did confirm with with Mayor Webb today in terms of ensuring that I was not uh speaking out of churn in terms of what they were looking at doing in there uh and in that area.

8:25:49

And so I just wanted to report out to you what what was told to me by a blue origin employee.

8:25:54

I appreciate that in that and if you could coordinate that meeting, I'd I'd greatly appreciate it.

8:25:58

I'd invite Rep Chavez if she wants to join.

8:26:02

Definitely, I can do that.

8:26:03

Thank you.

8:26:07

All right, any other discussion on this item number 45.

8:26:13

All right, Miss Bryant, call for the vote on this, please.

8:26:16

Yes, sir.

8:26:17

The motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative Limone, and this is to approve item 45 on that motion.

8:26:24

Call for the vote.

8:26:32

And the voting session.

8:26:34

And that motion passes unanimously.

8:26:36

Representative uh Maldonado Rota, not present.

8:26:40

Okay, Miss Brian, let's take item number 46, please.

8:26:43

Item 46 is discussion and action on the results of the Animal Services West Side Adoption Center Construction Audit A 2025-08.

8:26:52

Good evening.

8:26:53

Good evening, Mayor and Council.

8:26:54

My name is Miguel Montiel with the internal audit department.

8:26:57

Actually, the next three audits we'll be discussing were uh they were presented at the uh December 11th uh Financial Oversight and Audit Committee.

8:27:04

They were uh presented, discussed, and approved uh uh during that meeting.

8:27:09

So let me start with uh number 46 here, animal services.

8:27:12

All right, is there a motion to approve?

8:27:13

Motion, second.

8:27:14

Okay.

8:27:18

Okay.

8:27:19

All right.

8:27:19

So go we'll see your presentation, please.

8:27:22

Yes, um.

8:27:25

Okay, the idea of the objectives of the uh animal services uh audit were to review construct construction costs and processes used by the Capital Improvement Department to renovate the Moorhead Middle School to the new Animal Services West Site Adoption Center.

8:27:39

Uh the construction audit focused on phase one uh and include a review of the following areas uh compliance with capital improvement department policies and procedures.

8:27:47

Uh we looked at construction expenditures, change orders, inspections, make sure everything was signed off and reviewed.

8:27:53

Uh we looked at proper approvals and supporting documentation for expenditures change orders and inspections.

8:28:00

Okay, the scope.

8:28:02

The scope, uh we reviewed the construction occurring during uh from July 30th, uh 2024 through August 1st, 2025.

8:28:10

Uh we review the like I mentioned, the CIP's uh CID's uh pause and procedures.

8:28:16

We conducted interviews with capital improvement staff.

8:28:18

We reviewed construction expenditures.

8:28:20

Uh we looked at uh uh the change orders that were issued during that time period, and we looked at the sample of uh daily inspection reports that occurred.

8:28:29

Okay, and this is a positive uh finding we have one finding for this audit.

8:28:33

Uh this is uh uh our review of the audit or the audit uh review of expenditures and and change orders and inspections.

8:28:43

Uh we identify that the capital improvement department has established policies and procedures for conducting inspections, reviewing expenditures, and processing change orders.

8:28:53

Uh staff, society staff property reviews and approves payment applications from contractors and pays invoices within 30 days.

8:29:02

Well yeah, they property CID property reviews and approves change orders.

8:29:05

There's actually a four-level, four different steps uh for approval change orders within CID.

8:29:11

And those would that occurred.

8:29:12

And then uh CAD conducts inspections and completes detailed daily inspection reports.

8:29:17

So every time uh uh for every day there's a construction uh occurring at the project, uh inspector has to go and you know take note of the temperature and you know what's uh there's concrete being delivered, rebar, you know, whatever they're doing, so there's inspection reports conducted.

8:29:34

Uh everything was there, everything was good.

8:29:37

Uh our recommendations since this was a uh good audit, a good result.

8:29:42

Our recommendations just for CID to continue to ensure all aspects of uh construction project, including planning, budgeting, scheduling, compliance, and quality control are properly monitored and maintained.

8:29:53

Uh since it was a positive finding, there was uh you know good results.

8:29:57

Uh we didn't require management uh response.

8:30:00

Uh when we had our exit meeting management uh were in agreement with with our finding, so we didn't, you know, there was no corrective action uh to be had to be made.

8:30:09

So conclusion uh capital improvement that meant the audit objectives as discussed.

8:30:14

Uh they have positive procedures.

8:30:17

Uh they review, approve, and pay invoices within 30 days.

8:30:20

They review and approve their change orders, and they complete detailed uh daily inspection reports uh for the job site.

8:30:29

That's right, Ms.

8:30:32

Bryan.

8:30:33

We have public comment on this item.

8:30:35

Yes, we have Ms.

8:30:36

Osmond.

8:30:39

Ms.

8:30:40

Prime, is this are we taking items 46, 47, 48?

8:30:43

No, sir.

8:30:44

Just one at time.

8:30:45

Just one at a time, yes.

8:30:50

Now, this is an audit for the work that was done at Moorhead to convert it.

8:30:56

Because y'all took the animal shelter that was here at City Hall, moved it over there, and it was supposed to be more space, more intake, and everything to be done.

8:31:07

And I can't understand how it's a great audit when there were so many issues throughout the construction.

8:31:17

And different things, you know, it's like, oh, this is bad.

8:31:22

This is it.

8:31:24

There was so much change around in it.

8:31:30

So I can't understand how this is such a high ranking audit.

8:31:35

But is it complete?

8:31:40

We're saying the construction there is fully complete now.

8:31:44

Nothing else is gonna happen at Moorhead for the animal shelter.

8:31:55

Now I'm just kind of curious.

8:31:57

Is this is it such a glowing review because we lost our auditor and we're kind of in between because anybody who's followed this knows that there were issues.

8:32:14

So it doesn't make sense.

8:32:17

And I just put that out there for everybody else to know, because I know it was supposed to be a lot more space and take more animals.

8:32:26

It was supposed to be far more benefit than we're just taking here and putting it there.

8:32:32

What we what the whole city was sold is that that was gonna be so much bigger, so much more intake, and instead everybody saying, A okay.

8:32:46

I just is that because we're still still in flux of an auditor?

8:32:54

Something I don't know.

8:32:55

Something is off, but I'm sure people that handle most of the rescues.

8:33:02

We'll have more questions online too.

8:33:04

Thank you.

8:33:06

Okay, Ms.

8:33:07

Prime, could you please call for the vote on this item?

8:33:09

Yes, the motion was made by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, seconded by Representative Nino, and this is to accept the results on item 46 on that motion.

8:33:18

Call for the vote and the voting session.

8:33:22

And that motion passes unanimously.

8:33:23

Representative Maldonado Rocha not present.

8:33:26

Okay, let's take item 47, please.

8:33:28

Item 47 is discussion in action on the results of the El Paso Zoo Financial Activity Audit A 2025-09.

8:33:39

Okay, there's a motion and a second.

8:33:41

Can we see the presentation?

8:33:43

Sure.

8:33:47

Good evening, Liz Dello for the record.

8:33:49

So I'll be presenting the results of the El Paso Zoo financial activity audit.

8:33:56

The objectives of this audit were to perform an assessment of the El Paso Zoo's financial activity to ensure proper accounting and reporting.

8:34:05

The audit reviewed the zoo's internal controls and compliance with the city's policies and procedures.

8:34:11

The audit concentrated on ticket sales, zoo memberships, zoo sponsorships, and zoo events.

8:34:21

So listed are the scope and a methodology.

8:34:24

I'll skip through that one.

8:34:28

The audit contained three findings.

8:34:30

The first finding was regarding zoo events and sponsorships.

8:34:34

A review of four events held that held at the zoo during the period of April 1st, 2024 to April 30th, 2025.

8:34:42

Identified that three events had a net profit totaling approximately 170,000.

8:34:48

One event resulted in a loss of approximately 4,000 due to the event expenses exceeding ticket sales and the event not having any financial sponsorship in place.

8:35:01

We noted that two out of the four events uh received financial sponsorships and that both sponsorships were handled by the El Paso Zoo without a sponsorship agreement in place.

8:35:16

So here we provide a table detailing the four events.

8:35:22

Our recommendation was that the El Paso Zoo should monitor expenditures to ensure event costs are recovered and to consult with the city attorney's office when seeking event sponsorships.

8:35:35

For finding two, uh the review of the four events mentioned in finding one held at the El Paso Zoo identified 71 invoices.

8:35:45

Sorry, 71 invoice payments for event related expenditures.

8:35:49

A review of the 71 invoice payments identified that the payments were made past the 30 days.

8:35:58

So payments were made 24 to 117 days after the due date.

8:36:04

And we just recommended that the El Paso Zoo should ensure that invoices are paid within 30 calendar days of receiving the invoice or service.

8:36:13

Finding three was regarding field trip reservations.

8:36:17

A review of 15 invoices issued by the El Paso Zoo for school group field trips made during the week of April 21st, 2025.

8:36:32

Payments were received 13 to 75 days late, and this is due to the school's scheduled summer closures.

8:36:41

So we just recommended that the El Paso Zoo should establish a process for collecting payments from school districts prior to summer closures.

8:36:51

In conclusion, the El Paso Zoo met the audit objectives in the following areas.

8:36:56

Zoo has proper internal controls in place and documented procedures for handling admission and membership sales.

8:37:03

They are properly charging and collecting fees in accordance with the City of El Paso Schedule C.

8:37:08

The zoo is properly depositing and accurately reporting admission and membership revenues, and they are ensuring accounts payable transactions are approved for payment by authorized personnel.

8:37:22

The El Paso Zoo did not meet the audit objectives in the areas of monitoring event expenses to ensure event costs were offset by revenue sponsorships, properly vetting and formalizing sponsorship agreements, paying invoices within 30 calendar days, and collecting outstanding payments due to the zoo within 30 calendar days.

8:37:45

So I'll briefly go over the management's responses for finding one.

8:37:49

The zoo has established a standard event sponsorship agreement that will be approved by each sponsor, the zoo director, and the deputy city manager going forward.

8:38:01

For finding two, the El Paso Zoo has adjusted internal processes to maintain alignment with the City of El Paso's accounts payable policy.

8:38:11

And for finding three, the El Paso Zoo has adjusted internal processes to maintain alignment with the City of El Paso's accounts receivable policy.

8:38:22

And we are requesting that city council accept the results of the El Paso Zoo financial activity audit.

8:38:28

Okay.

8:38:28

Representative.

8:38:30

Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Liz, and to the El Paso Zoo staff for working on this.

8:38:36

I know there's been a lot of questions in regards to you know one of the events not having the sponsorship, but in 2025 there was a net profit, and it was because the first year they took up on themselves on putting this event together, right?

8:38:50

But this question for you.

8:38:52

So this is the audit after this audit.

8:38:54

Would there be a follow-up audit?

8:38:57

Can you just touch base on that so that you know the public could understand of what the steps are so that staff and you all follow up on what the proposals are, what the management responses and the follow-up processes.

8:39:11

Sure, yes.

8:39:12

So for the management's responses, uh what we look at is the implementation date.

8:39:17

The latest implementation date in the report is uh February 2026.

8:39:22

So we wait a couple months at least for the new processes to be established and for us to have something actually go back and audit, and then that's when we'll go back and do a follow-up audit.

8:39:32

Perfect.

8:39:33

I have no further questions, I just wanted to clarify that, Mayor, that there's uh a process for that.

8:39:37

Okay.

8:39:38

Ms.

8:39:38

Brian, we have public comment on this item.

8:39:40

Yes, we have Ms.

8:39:41

Osmond.

8:39:47

I used to keep a WOFPAC membership at the zoo for years.

8:39:51

Three kids, best place to keep them busy.

8:39:55

But what I find strange about this is under Ms.

8:40:03

Mack's recommendation, El Paso Zoological Society was pulled away from the zoo.

8:40:10

And it was handed over to Paso del Norte.

8:40:15

And now they're not doing so well.

8:40:21

They lost accreditation.

8:40:23

Apparently we need a zoo director, too.

8:40:26

It seems as though there are issues that Paso del Norte are falling flat on.

8:40:33

And I'm gonna tell you.

8:41:00

But it's really strange how you did this.

8:41:06

Zero zero mention of Paso del Norte and their input into what happened after that switch.

8:41:16

Why aren't we pulling it from El Paso del Norte when supposedly there was similar issues under El Paso Zoological Society?

8:41:26

In fact, I don't think those issues, if some of y'all remember, were as bad as what I'm just listening to.

8:41:33

I mean, they never lost their accreditation in the 60 years they had it.

8:41:40

And I'm just pointing this out because it seems as though it's really good.

8:41:45

It's like, hey, thank you, thank you for all the work and the PowerPoint you did, but nobody goes back and does any of the background, as though all of that's just wiped away and forgotten.

8:41:58

This is a change Ms.

8:42:00

Mack did.

8:42:04

And it wasn't for the better.

8:42:06

And I'm just wondering.

8:42:09

Are we gonna do another change?

8:42:13

Because it is supposed to be.

8:42:17

That the zoo is one of the places families can take their kids, one of the places old people can go and just toodle around, look at the animals, some of them a little slower than you.

8:42:32

But why the city is pulling everything away from other organizations and then handing them over to El Paso del Norte, and then they don't do a better job because why didn't they have that funding?

8:42:42

What where were they in this?

8:42:45

Thank you.

8:42:46

Representative Canalis.

8:42:49

Thank you, Mayor.

8:42:50

I'll offer a brief uh clarification for the public.

8:42:54

Uh the organization uh that was then known as the El Paso Zoological Society had nothing to do with the management or operation of the zoo or the zoo's accreditation.

8:43:06

The Paso del Norte Community Foundation likewise has nothing to do with the management of the zoo or the accreditation or the care of animals or anything like that.

8:43:14

Both of those organizations were fundraising partners for the city, um, but they have no impact on the management of the zoo.

8:43:22

And so I think that's an important clarification to make for the public.

8:43:24

Thank you.

8:43:24

Thank you.

8:43:25

Ms.

8:43:26

Prime, would you please call for the vote on this item number 47?

8:43:29

Yes, a motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez to accept the results on item 47 on that motion.

8:43:37

Call for the vote.

8:43:45

And the voting session.

8:43:47

And that motion passes unanimously.

8:43:49

Representative Maldonado Rocha not present.

8:43:51

Okay, let's take item 48, please.

8:43:53

Item 48 is discussion in action on the results of the planning and inspections permit review follow-up audit A 2026-01.

8:44:02

Okay.

8:44:03

Okay, motion.

8:44:05

Good evening again.

8:44:08

I want to discuss the planning inspections.

8:44:10

Uh this is a follow-up audit we conducted.

8:44:13

Okay.

8:44:13

The objectives of the follow-up audit was to ensure if corrective action was taken by management to address the recommendation identified in the original audit report dated October 22nd, uh, 2024.

8:44:24

There was only one finding to follow up on.

8:44:26

Uh the scope was fiscal years 25-26, which included reviewing planning inspections, uh policies and procedures.

8:44:33

Uh to make sure they address the following areas, uh, roles and responsibilities for staff in charge of issuing permits, required documents information to be included in each permit application.

8:44:44

Uh we reviewed uh make sure they review and process uh uh how they review and process before issuing a permit, and then how permits requested online uh via the citizens' access portal are handled.

8:44:56

That was their scope.

8:44:57

This is the original finding from the original audit report dated uh October 22nd, 2024.

8:45:02

So what we had seen back then was that the plan inspections, their policies and procedures pretty much consisted of flow charts that documented their workflow for issuing and closing building and construction permits, but it lacked they lack detail.

8:45:16

They it were just you know just picture floor charts, and they just needed a little bit more detail to explain who does what, who's responsible, uh, the steps to follow.

8:45:25

Uh the procedures also back then, those flow charts that had not been updated since calendar year 2010.

8:45:31

So they had you know they're a little bit outdated.

8:45:33

Uh like I just mentioned, the procedures lacked comprehensive comprehensive detailed guidelines for managing the following areas the roles and responsibilities of staff, uh, the required documentation information to be included in each permit application, uh, the review and approval process before issuing a permit, and then how permits requested online via the citizens action portal were handled.

8:45:52

A recommendation uh during the original audit was to have uh uh plan inspections update their review plan, division policy and procedures to reflect current practices and add comprehensive policy and procedures on how to manage the following areas that we just discussed.

8:46:10

Their uh management response, I just paraphrase uh the uh planning inspections department uh stated they would update their policies and procedures manual by September 2025, 2025, sorry.

8:46:22

Uh staff would uh would make uh sure that update accounts uh for changes that have occurred since the last update and uh uh including the electronic plan review, uh code updates, et cetera.

8:46:34

And the following bullets they just state what they were going to do.

8:46:37

Uh they will update guidelines, uh staff would update, include uh documents, submittal requirements into the policy and procedures manual.

8:46:46

Uh the response continues here to the second page here.

8:46:48

Uh the staff uh uh planning inspection staff would uh make sure uh the review and approval process uh is updated, included in the policies and procedures manual, and that they would update the citizens' action uh access portal, their guidelines uh to be included in the PMP manual that would be incorporated into their website.

8:47:06

Uh the original implementation date was September 2025.

8:47:10

So this is the results of our current observation of our our follow-up audit.

8:47:14

So the plan inspections department implemented the city of Paso Plan Review Inspection Policies and Procedures.

8:47:21

Uh those uh were dated August 2025.

8:47:24

The manual addresses how the planning inspections department manages roles and responsibilities for staff, uh the required documents information to be included in each permit application, uh, how they review and approve uh the approval processes for uh before issuing a permit, and how permits requested online via the services uh citizens action portal were handled.

8:47:43

Um all plan examiners and inspectors were trained on the new procedures on October 22nd, 2025, and then also one-stop shop staff were trained on the new procedures on November 12, 2025.

8:47:56

So the conclusion that this follow-up audit uh was plan inspections met the audit objectives as far as uh updating their policies and procedures manual.

8:48:08

That's that's a presentation.

8:48:10

Okay, representative.

8:48:13

Mr.

8:48:13

Muntiel, in looking at uh page four.

8:48:17

So this is the findings of October 22nd, 2024.

8:48:22

These are startling.

8:48:23

And it's so good to see the results after everything was taken care of.

8:48:28

It's um it looks like a department that was not in a good shape and now really looks like it's in the right shape.

8:48:35

And thanks to the audit.

8:48:36

As far as their management, yes, and they improved their manual, they're doing great.

8:48:39

Very good.

8:48:40

Thank you, sir, for your work.

8:48:42

All right, Ms.

8:48:43

Prime, we have public comment on this item.

8:48:45

Yes, we have Ms.

8:48:46

Hosmond.

8:48:52

Planning inspections.

8:48:56

I can't understand how he's doing uh audit on how their procedures are are is he going to the homes of the citizens at work was done to find out whether these inspectors actually did their procedures properly?

8:49:12

Because I could tell you that's not the case.

8:49:16

In fact, what's really bad with planning inspections and some of their procedures is residents.

8:49:24

It you would have to twist their inspector's arm to try and get them to come out to your place if you catch a contractor doing something wrong.

8:49:35

There are more issues in planning inspections.

8:49:39

But apparently, I don't think the auditors going to any of these people's homes that receive these permits for the work to be done to find out whether the inspectors actually did their job properly.

8:50:00

So I don't see how that's a proper audit on the job aspects, the manual, if they were actually doing everything they were supposed to be doing.

8:50:11

Because I'm not the only citizen that has come in here and complained about what is going on with contractors.

8:50:18

And you know who is supposed to be the safety net for residents and contractors?

8:50:26

Planning an inspection.

8:50:28

But hey, if a contractor goes in there, they're the only ones that calls planning inspection to have somebody come out and like, hey, can you verify?

8:50:37

Because something doesn't look right.

8:50:39

And sometimes these inspectors don't even like they will sit in your car and I can prove I know this for a fact.

8:50:48

Sit in their car at the street, look up and oh yeah, okay, it's done.

8:50:54

Don't even step out.

8:50:56

So if our auditors aren't actually asking residents whether this the permits received, did that get done?

8:51:07

Did it get done properly?

8:51:09

How do you know planning inspection has met any requirements?

8:51:16

It's it's uh, hey, thanks for the PowerPoint.

8:51:21

Like everybody, you'll you'll sit up there and you'll just thank whoever.

8:51:25

It is the theater is ridiculous.

8:51:29

That's why I came in with a costume, because this is the theater up here is ridiculous, and I will sit here every day until 9 p.m.

8:51:37

as long as it takes.

8:51:39

Because somebody needs to look you all in the eye and point out how ridiculous the political theater is, because that was honestly, I'm gonna call it most of it's a lie.

8:51:55

Ms.

8:51:56

Osman, you reach the three minutes.

8:51:57

Mayor that concludes public comment.

8:51:59

Okay, Ms.

8:51:59

Bryan, call for the vote, please.

8:52:00

Yes, the motion was made by Mayor Pro Tem Chavez, seconded by Representative Limon to accept the results on item 48 on that motion, call for the vote.

8:52:13

And the voting session.

8:52:14

And that motion passes unanimously.

8:52:16

Representative Maldonado Rocha not present.

8:52:20

Okay, Council, we got two more items left, one with the presentation and one without.

8:52:23

Can we take item number 49?

8:52:25

Yes, item 49 is discussion and action on a resolution that the city manager be authorized to sign a two-year on-call agreement for professional services to perform civil engineering on a task-by-tast basis by in between the City of Al Paso and each of the following three consultants.

8:52:41

Number one, CEA Engineering Group Inc., two, GFT Infrastructure Inc., three, HDR Engineering Inc.

8:52:50

Each on-call agreement will be for an amount not to exceed $750,000.

8:52:55

Motion to approve.

8:52:57

Okay.

8:52:58

And is there a second?

8:53:00

Second.

8:53:00

Okay.

8:53:01

Good evening.

8:53:02

Good evening, Mayor and Council Joaquin Rodriguez.

8:53:05

With the Capital Improvement Department grant funded program.

8:53:10

Item 49 on tonight's agenda is a two-year on-call agreement with three contractors for federally funded projects.

8:53:19

Each contract proposed for award tonight is $750,000 for a term of two years.

8:53:25

And the source of funds for these future projects would be Federal and State funds using MPO match dollars, old COs, and SIB loan funding.

8:53:37

The scope of work is not specific for these agreements.

8:53:41

These are on-call agreements, so we'll be using them on a task-by-task basis.

8:53:45

But typically those tasks would include primarily civil engineering design, but also planning, uh, geotechnical work, cost estimating, design analysis, and the other things that you see on slide three.

8:53:58

Next slide, please.

8:54:00

We issued this request for qualifications July 25th of 2025.

8:54:05

14 firms submitted statements of qualifications.

8:54:08

We are recommending award to three firms, CEA Engineering Group, GFT infrastructure, and HDR infrastructure.

8:54:17

Uh shout out to Frank Castro from HDR for staying with us all day in case you have any questions for HTR.

8:54:24

These will be on-call agreements for an amount not to exceed 750,000 dollars and zero cents per contract.

8:54:38

That's it.

8:54:39

Slides a bit repetitive.

8:54:40

That's it, sir.

8:54:40

All right, appreciate it.

8:54:42

Frank, thank you for staying here with us all evening.

8:54:44

Yep.

8:54:45

And uh Ms.

8:54:46

Prime, before they vote, I want to the record to show that I received a campaign donation from one of the principals as CEA.

8:54:54

Representative Chavez?

8:54:56

Same here.

8:54:56

I've also received a donation.

8:54:58

Thank you.

8:55:00

Representative Nino?

8:55:02

Yes, me too.

8:55:03

I've received a contribution.

8:55:04

Sorry.

8:55:05

Okay.

8:55:07

Ms.

8:55:07

Prime, I don't believe we have any public comment on this item.

8:55:10

No, sir.

8:55:10

Okay.

8:55:12

Call for the vote.

8:55:13

The motion was made by Mayor Potem Chavez, seconded by Representative Gonales, and this is to approve item 49.

8:55:21

On that motion, call for the vote.

8:55:30

And the voting session.

8:55:32

And that motion passes unanimously.

8:55:34

Representative Maldonado Rocha not present.

8:55:37

All right, Ms.

8:55:37

Brian, let's take item number 52.

8:55:39

Item 52 is discussion and action on a resolution authorizing the director and of purchasing and strategic sourcing to notify KR contracting inc that the city is terminating contract number 2024-0056 Security Guard Services Airport due to accumulated numerous security violations and performance deficiencies resulting in letters of investigation from the Transportation Security Administration TSA and notices of violation from the El Paso International Airport.

8:56:09

These violations constitute noncompliance with Federal Security Regulations and that the termination shall be effective as of March 19, 2026.

8:56:19

Okay, there's a motion.

8:56:20

Is there a second?

8:56:21

Second.

8:56:22

Okay.

8:56:29

We all did.

8:56:30

Questions for staff, anybody?

8:56:31

Okay.

8:56:32

Okay.

8:56:32

Representative Acevedo.

8:56:35

I I kind of want to get a timeline of how this went down.

8:56:40

I know that it was approved about two years ago.

8:56:43

So how much money has been spent on this contract?

8:56:46

Has it been about four million?

8:56:53

Good evening, Mayor.

8:56:55

Representatives.

8:56:55

Good evening.

8:56:56

We averaged about uh 180,000 a month.

8:56:59

So roughly about uh say about almost almost uh four million.

8:57:05

Almost four million, okay.

8:57:07

And so we approved it February twenty-seventh, twenty twenty-four.

8:57:12

When did you first notice that there were issues?

8:57:14

Almost immediately um following that.

8:57:16

Uh we did follow the procedures on how to uh hold them accountable, did the uh uh performance uh vendor performance uh review uh May of last year.

8:57:27

And up until then they have plenty of corrective action plans, which they uh they did.

8:57:32

They failed at those, and those violations just accumulated with no change.

8:57:36

And so we took the official cure process recently um and then also they failed at.

8:57:41

I guess uh what I'm trying to understand is why did it take so long after having several corrective action plans that were failed over and over?

8:57:53

Is there something in the process that could be improved in case this happens again with another vendor in the future?

8:57:59

Uh I believe we gave them a fair shot to uh rectify those uh issues.

8:58:03

Some of the problem I can't really go into specifics of the violations because it is SSI and CUI.

8:58:08

However, like some of them were different, but it was uh a wide variety of whether it's TSA violation or an FAA violation.

8:58:16

Okay.

8:58:17

Yeah, I I I just kind of worried about this because I think this is a big deal.

8:58:23

And as we're gonna move forward to terminate them, that's the right step.

8:58:29

I feel like maybe it took a little too long to get to this point, almost two years.

8:58:33

So then now what happens?

8:58:34

Are we not gonna have a contract in place?

8:58:37

Are we putting this out to bid?

8:58:41

How where are we at?

8:58:42

So Crystal Bus with purchasing and strategic sourcing.

8:58:45

So in the meantime, um, after the termination of this contract, we have been in communication with a vendor on a cooperative contract who has stepped in and uh is already going through the badging process in the event that the contract was terminated.

8:58:57

Uh so we can fill that gap while we procure a permanent formal um contract for this.

8:59:03

Okay.

8:59:04

So that'll be sufficient to take us through maybe another year until we have somebody in place and we'll we'll see this again when you have a finalist for us to look at.

8:59:14

Correct.

8:59:14

Okay.

8:59:15

I appreciate it.

8:59:16

Thank you.

8:59:17

Representative Lamont.

8:59:20

Thank you, Mayor.

8:59:21

I I I really thought this would be a very clear um cut um a vote.

8:59:28

Um I think that the work that you all did, and I kind of look at it as an employer with an employee.

8:59:34

You always look for how can we remediate?

8:59:37

How can we change, how can we bring about these things?

8:59:40

And so all of these things take time.

8:59:43

And so I'm just glad that we're at this point and we can move on and get a fresh straw start.

8:59:49

Any time that anyone else causes us to have violations, we need to move out of the way.

8:59:56

Thank you very much for your presentation.

8:59:58

Swift.

8:59:59

Okay.

8:59:59

Ms.

9:00:00

Bryan, I don't believe we have any public comment on this item.

9:00:03

No, sir.

9:00:04

Okay.

9:00:05

Any further discussion?

9:00:07

Okay.

9:00:07

Ms.

9:00:08

Brian, call for the vote.

9:00:09

Yes, the motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Mayor Proctor.

9:00:13

Wait, hang on.

9:00:14

No, they're leaving early.

9:00:16

Sorry.

9:00:17

Sorry, Mayor.

9:00:18

Okay.

9:00:18

Representative Chavez.

9:00:19

I just want to yeah, finally say that I want to thank them for the briefing.

9:00:22

And I know that part of the briefing included I guess the difficulty in communication with this company because I think they were located in Virginia or somewhere thereabouts.

9:00:34

And there was just geographically too much distance between us and them.

9:00:38

And and maybe that contributed to the issues that were brought forth.

9:00:44

So uh thank you.

9:00:46

And hopefully we'll we'll get it right.

9:00:49

Okay.

9:00:50

Any further discussion on item number 52.

9:00:59

Just checking.

9:01:01

All right, Miss Frank, call for the vote.

9:01:03

The motion was made by Representative Limon, seconded by Mayor Potem Chavez to approve item 52 on that motion.

9:01:10

Call for the vote.

9:01:13

In the voting session, and that motion passes unanimously.

9:01:17

Representative Madonado Rocha not present.

9:01:24

Okay, there's a motion to adjourn.

9:01:26

Second.

9:01:28

There's a motion and a second to adjourn the regular city council meeting.

9:01:30

All in favor?

9:01:31

Aye.

9:01:32

Aye.

9:01:32

Anyone opposed?

9:01:34

Oppose.

9:01:35

And the regular city council meeting for Tuesday, February 3rd, 2026 is adjourned at 9 12 p.m.

9:01:41

Thank you, Council.

9:01:42

Thank you, Council.

9:01:43

Thank you, staff.

9:01:44

Nine hours is seven minutes.

9:01:46

This is five.

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Summary of Proceedings

El Paso City Council Meeting: February 3, 2026 - Proclamations, ICE Opposition, and Infrastructure Approvals

The El Paso City Council met on February 3, 2026, from 10:07 a.m. to 9:12 p.m., covering proclamations, extensive public testimony, and action on numerous agenda items. Key highlights included proclamations honoring local organizations, a directive to develop a plan to prevent ICE detention facilities within city limits, approval of street resurfacing contracts totaling over $55 million, and several audit acceptances.

Proclamations

  • Combat Fighting Championship (CFC): Roland Rios, Jose Carlos Pacheco, and Marco Vallejo presented the organization's growth from 1,400 to 3,100 attendees per event, $120,000 per event in local spending, 300 hotel room nights, and plans for a foundation serving 2,000 underprivileged youth with 500 mentorship hours and 200 scholarships.
  • El Paso Children's Hospital Day: Recognized 14 years of service, 148 beds, over 20 specialties, a recent Toyota partnership for traumatic brain injury treatment, and named Best Hospital in El Paso Times for the second consecutive year. Staff highlighted awards including the only pediatric intensive care unit in the region.
  • Black History Hall of Fame Inductees: February 3rd proclaimed as El Paso Black Hall of Fame Day, honoring inductees including posthumous recipients. Inductees spoke about service, community, and the 100th anniversary of Black History Month.
  • Community Partners in Action: Recognized Sam's Club Store #6246 for supporting veterans' memorials and community events.
  • National Engineers Week: Proclaimed February 22-28, 2026, recognizing engineers at El Paso Electric, TxDOT, and UTEP's College of Engineering, which enrolled 5,400 students in fall 2025 and graduated 886 engineers.

Consent Calendar

Approved with revisions: excusing Representative Boyar Trejo, revising a fire department item (replacing "public safety" with "Office of the Governor"), moving items to the regular agenda, deleting items per council members, and amending a contract renewal limit from 60 to 90 days.

Public Comments & Testimony

Item 34 (ICE Detention Facilities): Over 30 speakers addressed the council. Students from Eastwood High School (Alisa Aguirre, Zaley Buck, Leilani Davis, Sofia Gutierrez) presented a petition with over 1,200 signatures gathered in 48 hours, urging opposition to new ICE detention centers. Many community members, including social workers, attorneys, activists, and faith leaders, described inhumane conditions at existing facilities and called for action. Notable speakers included:

  • Jessica Morales, a social worker who oversaw detention operations, argued detention is a business model that drains resources.
  • Marisa Limon Garza, executive director of Las Americas Immigrant Advocacy Center, detailed medical neglect and due process violations.
  • Claudia Contreras Siller supported law enforcement and cautioned against violence.
  • A retired DOJ attorney, Eduardo Castillo, emphasized constitutional rights.

Call to the Public: Topics included a drug house complaint (3628 Wickham), animal cruelty (pigeon trapping, cat deaths), enforcement of a rooster covenant, proposals for disc golf courses at Paul Harvey and HT Ponsford parks, recognition of BorderRAC's work during a water main break, and concerns about city spending and abortion.

Other Items: Heidi Sowens (Short-Term Rental Alliance) supported item 27; Patricia Osman raised concerns about Project Bravo contracting; Michael Bray spoke in favor of the short-term rental definition.

Discussion Items

Item 27 – Short-Term Rental Definition: Unanimously approved after a three-year collaborative process between staff, the Greater El Paso Association of Realtors, and the El Paso Short-Term Rental Alliance. The new definition clarifies short-term rental regulation.

Item 30 – City Manager Contract Authority: Failed 2-3. Would have raised the city manager's contract award threshold from $50,000 to $100,000; council members cited transparency and accountability concerns.

Item 32 – Litigation Briefing Before Contract Awards: Passed 5-1 after amendments. Directs the city attorney to brief council in executive session on litigation history (going back 10 years) of contract awardees. An amendment to require a legal review within 15 days failed.

Item 34 – Plan of Action to Prevent ICE Detention Facilities: Passed after amendments. The original motion by Representative Limon and Canales was amended (4-3) to remove El Paso Water from the collaboration. A second amendment (unanimous) added a 60-day directive for the city manager and attorney to research a protocol preventing warrantless entry, explore a moratorium on permits/zoning for ICE facilities, and produce a report on city-ICE cooperation.

Item 44 – Street Resurfacing List 2026-2027: Approved unanimously. Staff presented a $63.18 million plan covering 78 center-lane miles. Council members debated equitable distribution, with concerns raised about District 7's low PCI score receiving a smaller allocation compared to newer districts.

Item 45 – Van Horn Water Pressure Zone Grant: Approved unanimously. Provided $600,000 from the TED program fund to help Van Horn lift a commercial water moratorium, leveraging an EDA grant and local matches totaling $3 million, supporting tourism and aerospace industries.

Key Outcomes

  • Consent Agenda: Approved as revised.
  • First Reading of Ordinances: Approved items 20-23.
  • Property Sales (Items 24-26): Three property conveyances approved unanimously (Bassett Ave, Mills Addition, Dolan St).
  • Short-Term Rental Definition (Item 27): Unanimously adopted.
  • Rezoning and Special Permit (Items 28-29): Unanimously approved for a contractor yard on Gateway South.
  • City Manager Contract Authority (Item 30): Failed 2-3.
  • Public Service Board Appointment (Item 31): Stephanie Block Urubati appointed 5-1.
  • Litigation Briefing (Item 32): Approved 5-1 with 10-year lookback.
  • Anti-Littering Strategy (Item 33): Unanimously approved a 90-day directive.
  • ICE Detention Plan (Item 34): Approved with amendments.
  • Housing Tax Credits (Items 50-51): Unanimously approved resolutions of support for all three projects (Cielo Towers 2, East Side Crossings 2, Siesta Garden) after an amendment; item 51 (acknowledging census tract) approved.
  • Municipal Court Magistrate (Item 53): Corey A. Harbor appointed unanimously.
  • Street Resurfacing and Bike Contracts (Items 40, 41, 43, 44): All approved unanimously (downtown bike improvements $2,065,000.09; collector/arterial streets $35,427,150; residential streets $19,839,245.50; street list resolution).
  • Van Horn Grant (Item 45): Approved unanimously.
  • Audit Acceptances (Items 46-48): Animal Services West Side Adoption Center, El Paso Zoo financial activity, and Planning Inspections permit review follow-up audits accepted unanimously.
  • Civil Engineering On-Call Contracts (Item 49): Approved unanimously ($750,000 each to three firms).
  • Termination of Airport Security Contract (Item 52): Unanimously approved terminating KR Contracting due to TSA violations.
  • Recess and Lunch: A motion to recess for lunch failed; council later recessed from 3:09 p.m. to 4:03 p.m.

Additional Items

  • Presentation on Entertainment Venue Enforcement (Item 37): Code Enforcement provided data on pool rental enforcement, with 57 calls for service and citations issued.
  • ARPA Update (Item 38): Staff reported 94% ($145.4 million) of $154.3 million obligated/spent, with remaining $8.9 million to be spent by December 31, 2026.
  • First Quarter Financial Report (Item 39): A slight surplus projected; no use of the $3.25 million fund balance expected.

Meeting Transcript

Good morning. Good morning, sir. Good morning, Mayor, Council members, city staff, and everyone here. Thank you for having us at El Paso City Hall. My name is Roland Rios. I'm president co-founder of Combat Fighting Championship CFC. And I'm also proud of veteran of the United States Air Force. So when I talk about community impact, I'm coming from a service mindset. Show up prepared, lead responsibly, and create something that improves lives. Today it's meaningful because of the proclamation. And we don't take this lightly. Since then, we've been committed to earning that recognition through results. We produced five major events, and our sixth is coming April 25th. We started with 1400 attendees and grew it to 3100 attendees. That's momentum and community trust. Each event takes a hundred and twenty to a hundred and fifty people working behind the scenes to keep it safe and professional. We invest local locally to deliver a high standard event. About a hundred and twenty thousand spent uh per event into the operational ecosystem that makes this happen. And we bring visitors to El Paso. About 300 hotel room nights per event, supporting hospitality and small and small and small business. But most importantly, where we are uh where we're headed next, we launch our CFC Foundation. It's new, but our purpose is clear. Create an opportunities for youth through structure mentorship and access. Our targets are to serve two thousand underprivileged kids, provide five hundred mentorship hours, and fund two hundred scholarships. Now I want you to hear from my co-founder, Jose Carlos Pacheco, because he brings the athletes' perspective and the passion behind what we're building. Carlos. Good morning. My name is Jose Carlos Pacheco, co-founder of Combat Fighting Championship CFC. Mayor and Council members, thank you for your time and for letting me speak today. This project began with nothing more than a simple what if conversation. Standing here now representing the MMA community, it truly feels surreal. Our worlds don't often intersect, so I want to sincerely thank you for seeing Beyond the Cage, Beyond the Fighting, and recognizing the purpose behind what we're building. Not just for our athletes, but for the city of El Paso. CFC was created to showcase the incredible talent that exists right here at home. El Paso has always been a fight town. And that's proven by athletes like WBA world champion Stephanie Hahn and former Fury FC champion Andrea Maro. Fighting is in our is part of our culture. It's in our blood. We are fighters, both inside and outside of the cage. As a professional fighter myself, I can tell you that Al Pasoans take immense pride in representing our city. When we travel and compete across the country, we carry El Paso with us every time we step into the cage. We are nine out of town promotion. We are Al Paso born, El Paso bred, El Paso Proud, and El Paso Strong. It may not happen today, it may not happen tomorrow. But I guarantee that CFC will be the platform that helps launch an El Paso athlete to the UFC and represents our city on the biggest stage in the world. Thank you again for your time. And now I pass it on to Marco. Good morning. Uh my name is Marco Vallejo. I lead partner relations for CFC, and I'm also the executive director of the CUC Foundation, where I lead our mentorship and scholarship efforts.

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