Kiss for a 30.

We are gonna get started with the um agenda for the Tuesday.

This is Tuesday, October 14th, but we'll be going over to the agenda for next week's council meeting.

And just a reminder if we have um uh members of the public here.

Um this is not a voting meeting or a business meeting, it is settled stage for next week's council meeting.

And we will run through um first and foremost.

We will um dive into the consent agenda.

So I will read that and then stop after each one if you all can ask questions and we can um hear more about that from the staff.

Should you have uh should you like to?

A one is approval of document destruction lists, um, a resolution to authorize the destruction of certain documents pursuant to relevant sections of the Arkansas Code related to maintenance and destruction of accounting and other city records.

Clark Maxon, would you like to speak to that a little bit?

So this is a process that we go through each year, and we include information in your agenda packet that shows the documents that are required your approval before we can destroy as well as well as uh for transparency purposes.

We also include the documents that do not require your approval because we want to make sure that we're putting all that information out there.

Thanks.

God bless council members for witnessing the destruction of the records that require witness year after year after year.

No, I can drink my coffee.

Take one for the same months.

Well, the settings of this job.

Thank you.

Clark Pyson.

A2 is the I-49 and Stephen Cart interchange.

It's a resolution to approve task order number 18 with Michael Baker International in the amount of 97,850 for evaluation of alternatives for improvements to the Stephen Carr Memorial Boulevard and I-49 interchange and to approve the related budget adjustments.

And I know Chris is here to speak to that one if you have questions.

I really appreciate just um a summary of that.

Sure.

Uh, this interchange, we see a lot of uh traffic backups on uh Mount Comfort Road in the in the morning.

So uh looking at ways to improve the efficiency of that interchange.

Uh city selected Michael Baker International.

Uh there are their national firm, they have a local office.

Uh they've been selected, and uh the first phase of the work is uh to study and come up with alternatives, work with RDOT uh to see what we can get permitted uh through their process.

Uh and then once that's done, then we'll go through with final design and uh then move forward to construction.

Uh, this does have federal aid funding uh through regional planning.

Uh so we're paying 20% of the cost uh of this contract.

Of course, it's been on the um on the west side or the east side.

Um both sides.

Yeah, the the biggest problem at that interchange is the the left turn movement of the uh eastbound or southbound left turn getting on to go north.

Uh so that's where we see the largest backup.

Um so just looking at alternatives to improve that turning movement and uh push more traffic through there.

You say left turn south then left turn northbound.

Okay, so it'll just be one size side of I-49, they'll be evaluated.

Well, they're gonna look at all of that as a system, um, and they'll be looking at uh roundabouts, uh looking at possible additional signal additional lanes, um, and then there are some other kind of more exotic um intersection treatments that that might be used as well.

They're gonna look at all the alternatives.

They'd be looking at um southbound.

The uh well, the the southbound uh the to get the the southbound I-49 that you're talking about, that absolutely will be included in the in the design.

We're not gonna leave that out.

That's not really the the problem area, uh, but definitely they'll be looking at back up to it's if you want to get on I-49 going south in the morning.

It's almost all the way back to local.

Sure, yeah.

The the the uh the eastbound Mount Comfort traffic is is the problem.

Yeah.

Um but the but the pinch point is really that left turn at uh uh to get onto the highway to get on the north.

If open up a moment, and we can help clear that up, then that uh that will improve everything.

But they'll they'll be looking at that intersection plus the one um on the on the north side of the highway and the Shiloh and Mount Comfort intersection as well.

Okay, all of those will be looked at.

They all have to work together.

Thank you.

Thanks, Chris.

The next item is water sewer work truck replacements.

Oh no through Olafa fleet.

Okay, a resolution to approve the purchase of two Ford F550 work trucks from Olaytha fleet in the total amount of 178,583 dollars pursuant to a source-weld cooperative purchasing contract, plus any applicable surcharges, brake charges, freight charges and delivery fees.

I'll let you know the only thing that is giving me any heartburn about tonight's agenda session or the council meeting next week has been the pronunciation of that specific town on the advances because I mess it up every time and people take it very seriously, and so I think I did it right at the I live there one.

Woo!

Okay, should I rinse playing as it and um I think Ross is yes, Ross is here in the back.

Should you have questions about that purchase?

Okay, then we're gonna move right on to the next one, which is a police training division vehicle replacement for national auto fleet group.

A resolution to approve the purchase of a Ford Explorer from National Auto Fleet Group in the amount of 41,277 and 95 cents pursuant to a source-bow cooperative purchasing contract, plus any applicable surcharges, freight charges, and delivery fees.

And Ross can also speak to that one as well.

Um and that's loss too, I believe.

So right.

I have to go off memory, Ross.

Um, I believe we have other vehicles that are in this type of model, and so this is carriers game felt up the transmission failed and just wondering that anomaly, or do we have any concerns about other parts of our fleet?

No, not so much.

We don't have too many of those Chevy, I'll say mid-size SUVs, but that has been an issue for a few of them so far.

Um, but this kind of goes back to the fleet standardization talk.

We've been moving forward explorers into some of those positions and OLAF so far.

This is gonna be our second purchase for them.

Uh we definitely have a cost savings for state contract as well, about $1,300 per vehicle using Olaith versus the last four explorers we bought.

And your question, Luco, was about the national auto fleet, right?

Or did I get it wrong?

Did I say them wrong?

They're oh okay, okay.

And I messed up, sorry.

Forgive me.

No, you're good.

Is that asked for your question?

Okay, so how many additional updates do we have?

The explores, yeah.

Uh within this last year, just 2025, we have bought four others.

Okay.

Three of them for community development and one for police.

Okay, and those don't have any.

So far, no.

A five is a resolution to purchase from Gaul's their source both cooperative contracts.

Number 011124-DAL.

A resolution to approve the purchase of fire department uniforms and related products, services, and solutions from Gauls pursuant to a source both cooperative purchasing contract on an as-needed basis, begin campus budget through March 25th, 2028, and eight future renewal periods.

So she pardon will be available by Zoom later in the meeting, but she also is here if you have questions about this purchase for Steve can answer them.

Okay.

Moving on to A6, Came Street.

I'm saying that right, right, John.

Yes, Hain Stream Trail Bridge Purchase.

A resolution to award bid 25-46 and authorize the purchase of a concrete trail bridge from Skurlock Industries and the total amount of 197,766 and 76 cents for installation by city crews on the Haim Stream Creek Trail.

And I believe that is Chris that can speak to that or Matt or Mr.

Mahan, which both can answer questions about that if you have.

I have a question.

Um, so that oftentimes you use the metal budget, so those holds a cockroach line.

Yeah, great.

So I used to under and why um you were changing a calling for you to fit achievement more appropriate level pigeons.

The primary reason is uh because of flooding.

This bridge is designed to where the water can actually top it.

Okay.

So if you see how high RuPaul bridges above, this bridge is going to be low down where the trail is going under the bridge, and it's just going to be staying at like the bank level.

Um, so in flood events, it will top.

And by having it be a concrete bridge, it won't be damaged, you know, with flood situations, whereas the the metal bridge in that situation can trap debris and really uh be a problem.

So well, I'm I'm so looking forward to having this trail finish.

Yeah, it's gonna be a great connection.

Yeah.

Is this a uh like a pre-cast?

Like a pre-cast concrete.

So you just kind of cran it in.

It comes in about four foot strips.

Oh, okay.

It is about 40 feet long of spanning the creek.

So the creek bottom will stay just like it is, it doesn't affect it.

So it's a three-sided, think of it like a three-sided culvert.

Okay, legs and a top, and then they're like four foot strips that line up.

So we'll put several of them across.

Okay.

And bottom up to each other, and then that like the bridge.

Yeah.

Okay.

And Scarlock is right by the airport, so we're getting a local company on this too.

Nice.

Thank you.

Yep.

All right.

Thanks, Matt.

A7 is the FY 2026 Historic Preservation Grant application.

It's a resolution to authorize an application for a certified local government grant in the amount of $90,000 through the Arkansas Historic Preservation Program for phase two of a citywide windshield survey of historic properties.

And Britain is here, I believe, and can speak to that and if you all have questions.

Oh I'm Kylie Paul.

I'm the preservation planner.

Just reading that just reading a book written on here.

I apologize.

I'll get that corrected in my book.

No worries, but I'm happy to answer any questions.

Got a couple of questions, Paul.

Yeah.

Do you want to come out?

No, sorry, Keith.

Is Dan IP one here?

Shortly.

Oh, great.

Thank you so much for answering that.

Thank you.

All right, go ahead, Scott.

Well, first off, how much money have we brought in for historic preservations to the city?

That's a great question.

So in total, since 2022, we brought in just over 272,000 through the CLG program.

So that's the annual um preservation grant um with a city match of just over 41,000.

So that equates to seven dollars for every one dollar we've invested.

And how does this program benefit the ownership?

Yeah, so um this is essentially the first step in our larger historic preservation plan.

Um so the first thing that we have to do to get a handle on what we have is inventorying.

Um so doing this citywide inventory um allows us to know what resources are out there um and can potentially open up um financial assistance and grants for property owners if they own a historic building.

Awesome.

Yeah.

My question is for you.

Can we turn around then council random permission to apply for a grant and then a second permission to actually accept the grant?

And could we ever combine those two and grant both?

I will so that is a question that I have asked, and then you are probably seeing a lot of smiles back in the audience of staff that would love to see that.

Um right now the we are following policy and that we seek your particularly if there is a match involved, which I understand in this case there is is not, but if there's a match involved, it would commit our funds.

Of course, we would need your permission.

But if there is not a match, I would love to see us streamline that and maybe figure out how to do one approval rather than the early that they all say it's set up, is that we ask permission to apply and then ask permission to accept.

What do we need to do?

That is that was set up really because the City Council wanted to look at multiple.

But if you want to do it all at once, I think we could easily change that.

Stephen, you might be able to speak more than be happy to take a look at that and yeah, okay.

And this is I was waiting for Mr.

Bernard to say this is a resume.

Oh, we just want to do this.

Thank you for everything.

Of course, thank you so much.

Yes, of course.

Thank you very much.

Um A8 is approval of an agreement with the advertising and promotion commission.

It's a resolution to approve a five-year agreement with the Federal Advertising and Promotion Commission to furnish collection and accounting services for the hotel, motel, and restaurant taxes for collected for the A and P commission for a fee of two percent of such collections with an automatic renewal for an additional five-year term.

And Steven can answer any questions about this if you want.

I know this is longstanding and has been in place for many years.

Can you just give some more explanation on this?

Uh just uh the cost for us to perform that collection function for the AP commission.

Standard collection uh rate that we would uh generally apply in situations like this.

So we charging them a two percent fee or we banked.

No, we're we're charging them the fee.

Thank you.

And Stephen is a fee pretty much goes like a standard fee.

They kind of we're not trying to turn a profit, but we're also we're not trying to uh just covers our guide, just covering the cost.

Yeah.

It's also um for the businesses that are paying those taxes is a convenience because if we weren't to collect on behalf of the city, the HMR mayors would have to pay their one percent fee to us and then make a different payment to the AMP commission for their 1%.

And that I would imagine as a business owner is probably not what we always heard is that that's an added layer of complexity that doesn't need to be.

Yes, all right, thank you for that word.

And we did change that to online, everybody can pay online two years ago.

We made that change.

So we also have a single login.

So have a business or customer that's logging in to do business with the city related to development services, they could also pay uh their HMR on the same platform.

Oh, okay.

So part of that is the cost of the software that type of thing are overhead for maintaining that system.

I have a question that's just kind of unrelated, but do short-term rentals pay the HM market.

Thank you.

Okay, um, that brings us to unfinished business, which we have three items on unfinished business for next week.

And the first um the first is uh a PCD 2025-3 for North Raven Lane.

It's an ordinance to approve a residential plan zoning district entitled PCD 2025-3 for approximately 49.2 acres on North Raven Lane in Ward 4.

And gentlemen, I believe the applicant is making a request to table this.

Is that I mean, I know we can't, I know we leave it on the agenda, but is that also your understanding?

Yes, that's fair.

I'm trying to get that in mind from the south.

Okay.

But they have expressed it in less certain terms.

But you can I didn't mean to cut you off for being able to speak to it.

I just wanted to.

That's the closest thing I have to adopt.

And this is the next chapter neighborhood.

That's correct, just southwest of Biden Park.

Anybody want Jonathan to go over that in more detail or okay?

Okay.

Um an appeal of a planning commission denial.

It's RZM 2025-27 on West Not Comfort Road.

We also heard that last week.

It's the ordinance to rezone the property described in RZN 2025-27 for approximately 0.4 acres located at 3070 West Mount Comfort Road in Ward 4th from RSF 4 residential single family four units per acre to NSG, neighborhood services general and RSF 8 student, residential single family 18 units per acre.

Jonathan, can you speak to that?

That's the main item on this one.

We've been working on the exhibits for this.

Thank you.

Uh announcement order recalled or amendment item was heard at the last meeting.

That's the request from NSD at Ross.

Other extents.

Uh, that's that's the extent of the requests we've heard so far, as you see in the the agenda.

The clerk has worked to update the language of the item.

Uh, we're working to also update the ordinance exhibits as well.

You have already amended it.

So uh these are the new exhibits that you'll see in the packet that go out on Thursday or Friday will have a new exhibits, the new legal description, and also this exhibit showing that the properties intended to be or it's amended currently to be split zone.

Uh otherwise, in a discussion with the African yesterday, they're still contemplating uh possibly whatever bill of assurance or something else uh then maybe interested in offering in response to some of the neighbored feedback, but at this point we've not seen that.

It would be nice to have a couple of these early because this has got really complicated.

And then I don't know how many of us all the council members have been out to use period taking the run down there.

Um if there's not uh I was just gonna, if nobody's been down there, I was gonna suggest that we have a little tour read.

But if everybody's already seen how narrow that street is, and it's a goal set in essence, um, and maybe it's unnecessary.

Anybody by at five o'clock?

So you can't get there at five o'clock.

That's a that's a time for the yeah, you know, we're swinging by there during rush hour, but it sounds like every time you swing by there, so um another um item on the um forgive me on unfinished business is flexible marina operations and late access fee modifications for late Fayetteville.

So Lakes Fayetteville, Sequoia and Wilson.

It's an ordinance to modify the street fee structure for lake use and access and allow for more flexible marina operations by amending section 97.070, the recreational activities at Lake Bay of Bill Sequoia and Wilson of the Bayable City Code.

And now can speak more to why they're seeking this modification to the fees.

We've we've got Lee here.

Oh, I'm so sorry, speak Lee.

Done that twice tonight.

Lee.

No major updates from last agenda session.

Just a reminder though that this ordinance amendment will essentially change the language to allow the marina office to have more flexible hours.

Um that's based on public demand and weather conditions.

The current ordinance stipulates that the marina and the lake be open from sunrise to sunset.

Um, and that's not a very sustainable model, especially during the winter months when public demand is low.

Additional changes to this ordinance include removing fees from the ordinance um to streamline future adjustments.

I will note that we are not recommending any future adjustments at this time.

Um, but this will allow us to handle those administratively in the future.

And then lastly, transitioning from daily permits to um late access fees, and by making this change, we're able to strengthen our relationship with Arkansas Game and Fish, specifically their community fishing program, which allows them to come and stock Lake Fayetteville as part of that community fishing program.

And I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.

On the changing out of the hours, do we have any like time frames where we're getting like lead time on those changes or um I don't know is that how fluid that will be with make making changes based on fluidity of like seeing customers so that folks maybe think it's open at one time and I could see coming back in two weeks.

Okay, it's got until we're five.

Sure.

Um we're still fleshing out the recommendation, but right now we're looking at um what I would call peak season hours.

So that's essentially May through September being 8 a.m.

to 8 p.m.

The lake access still remain the same being sunrise to sunset.

This is just for the marina office.

Um and then there's some shoulder seasons, you know, during the early spring and late uh fall, so primarily April and October months to be a little bit shorter, looking at an 8 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

time period for the marina office.

And then the winter months when uh you know the weather conditions aren't great and the demand is lower.

We're proposing a 10 a.m.

to 4 p.m.

just for the marina office.

Again, the lake access will remain the same being sunrise to sunset.

And to answer your questions specifically, um we plan to announce that to um repeat um customers that do annual passes out there.

We have signage out at the facility, we have website as well, so we'll be updating all that as it's working that's gets past.

I don't think the intention is essentially like a grade blocks, like we talked about kind of that that's our recommendation because we want to be somewhat consistent, not have hours changing a lot.

So this was the best model that we were able to come up with, you know, to have a lot of flexibility, still be open when the public demands it and ship the operation.

Yeah.

So transitioning from daily access days just on those slides to limit this game of fish, like you would get yearly.

So Lake Fayetteville is one of three lakes that we currently uh own and manage.

Uh Lake Wilson and Lake Sequoia do not have any fishing or boating permits.

There are um there was a previous marina operator at Lake Sequoia, however, that's currently not operating.

We're not contracting that out.

So Lake Fayetteville is the only operation that has a marina contractor.

Um some of the duties of that contractor is to collect daily fishing uh and daily boating uh permits, but Gaiman Fish has some stipulations about specifically charging for fishing requirements where they will not allow communities to participate in their community fishing program.

But we have spoken to them in length about this and have their support by changing to a day use pass will now allow us to um start working closer with them and be allowed to be in that community fishing program.

So we'll change to day.

That's correct.

Although the fee will remain the same.

Can we have to change our contract with the room?

The contract actually expires um at the end of this year.

We have already sent out a RFP with our purchasing department and made an internal selection, and we're currently in negotiation of the contract right now.

So it'll be consistently.

So the plan with the is to get this ordinance changed so we can kind of make the contract requirements actual and negotiate the contract based on this change.

Thank you.

So that's the end of old um not old.

Unfinished business.

And what I would like for us to do now is to have our um agenda session presentations because we roll right in with new business to the conversation around the bond and our two presentations that we have on the edge of the herd and night speak directly to that.

And so I think it would make more sense to do those agenda session presentations tonight and more in the way to hear them a bit.

So just so that if you're following along on your feet, we're moving to section B.

City Council agenda session presentations.

Good afternoon, everyone.

So have uh some exciting news about the connected communities workshop that hopefully not all of you are surprised by, but they've been sending some communications out about.

Uh, but I just wanted to give a quick presentation.

Uh Ryan Hale from Lane Shift should be on the Zoom, so he's available to answer questions.

But uh just wanted to say that as Fayetteville and North Ofs Arkansas have continued to build out a nationally respected on-street bike and trail network.

Um we we're seeing continued investments in the maintenance of that infrastructure, the continued build-out of that infrastructure.

And uh we would love to see uh city leadership, uh city council members get to experience some of that infrastructure firsthand.

And um Lane Shift is a local firm that specializes in professional development for city officials, uh offering hands-on uh learning experiences about bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure.

There is active transportation academies.

Uh, they've hosted hundreds of professionals from out of state that have traveled to Northwest Arkansas for these trainings to see firsthand what we're doing here.

And earlier this year, our active transportation uh committee that uh council member Turk is involved with, uh, we did a field trip uh after which we thought that uh it would be great to have an expanded, more robust uh field trip like experience for uh city administration and city council members.

And so a uh proposal was reviewed and forwarded to the transportation committee, uh, which uh council member more shares and uh was forwarded to the the full city council for consideration.

Uh during that uh approval process, uh the mayor and administration did approve uh funding for the workshop.

And uh we have a date that was originally scheduled for the 6th of November that we're uh looking like we're good to go to change to the 7th, uh which uh due to a budget meeting that uh we're working around a lot of uh budgetary uh issues that that are certainly priority, and uh hopefully that'll uh work a little bit better for people scheduled being on a Friday ahead of a possibly a long weekend.

Um so the city will host a workshop uh that which will begin and end here in downtown Fayetteville.

Uh and uh lane shift being the uh the education firm that will that will coordinate uh the entire event.

Uh there's 13 seats uh that we we love to see it completely full.

Uh uh and uh it will include uh bike to uh e-bike, we want to emphasize e-bike.

Uh you will not be sweating.

I know it'll be in November, but you uh there will be comfortable beginner-friendly e-bikes, uh, and it'll include tours of uh bike infrastructure in Fayetteville as well as a shuttle up to Rogers and Bentonville to see what they're doing, presentations from their city staff as guest speakers to share and highlight and kind of show off what some of our sister cities are doing to the north.

And uh so the really the purpose of this training is for elected officials, city staff uh members, as well as um possibly one or two folks from the University of Arkansas to uh engage and improve their understanding of uh what's being done in bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure to advance safety and greater connectivity in what we're seeing as a uh a growing area of our transportation system.

Uh so yes, e-bikes, um a light breakfast, lunch, and dinner, as well as shuttle transportation, e-bikes uh is all included in this.

And because it we're staying local, we don't have to pay for uh expensive travel.

It's an amazing value uh for the city and um love to see as as much participation as we can.

So uh as I mentioned, Ryan is on the Zoom.

If um if there are questions for him or for me, I'm happy to open it up for discussion.

Um so that's what I have for now.

So what kind of um so this is an all day thing Ryan.

Yes uh and yeah emphasis on all day so it'll be uh the 830 and then uh there's it wraps up with a like a social dinner but that uh it'll conclude around 7 30 p.m on the on the the draft agenda that I have right now so it's uh it's a big time commitment we all we realize that that's your most uh valuable thing that we have to ask of you but um it's it's a neat opportunity we have spin on the bicycle according to like the guys uh yeah um the draft agenda shows you know uh three portions maybe combined probably you know an hour an hour and a half each so uh not not the majority of the overall time there'll be a lot of a lot of breaks and a lot of uh interludes with these academies uh it's usually broken up where you'll go pause you'll tour a project so we'll come and speak with you and then you'll you know kind of go on to the next and uh there's a throttle so great dinner what time would it end thirty five thirty or six maybe yeah and just that end up in fate yes that's right I'll probably be in uh Houston that weekend so I might not be here excuse it in a little starting for you looks like uh conclusion of of the the ride and then there's a debrief and kind of a a meeting and then dinner will end at 30 we are still is it fair to commit to having a because I'm those are all fair questions and I don't know that we know when do you think we would have a firm agenda so people could see more I mean is it like end of next week maybe we might have it or I don't want to rush it but I also want to give them like when they can expect to have it for sure.

We have the the copy of the draft agenda and so I can circulate that and so if there's any comments we can incorporate that.

Uh but they'll be the communications will be coming from Lynch to to firm that up and answer uh they have a standard kind of FAQ process for onboarding people that are doing their workshops.

So just a quick call to who on the council is going to try to go to this one bicycle would it be appropriate Ron would it be appropriate for me to add a couple comments then it's on mayor Ron would it be okay if I offered a couple comments would that be appropriate yes okay well um it's very nice to meet you guys and uh hopefully I'm coming through loud and clear um my name is Ryan Hale I'm with Lane Shift and um we've we've had the the unique opportunity to host um hundreds of professionals on uh these types of professional development opportunities and and trainings um if uh I hear a lot of conversation about bikes and biking and um I I want to let you know that if you are have some concerns about the biking portion of that uh you're in good company most everybody who comes through our programs kind of has some initial apprehension well I haven't been on a bike in years or how long are we going to be riding and that's common um I I will just state right up front you know the the tour is focused around biking and walking so those that come will need to to know how to ride a bike unassisted so I just want to say that right up front um the second side of that is is that we use the bicycles as a tool uh we're not here to crush big miles and you know get our heart rates way up we we use e-bikes really as a tool to experience the community around us in in new new and and better ways and so um if you haven't ridden a bike in years um that that's okay we'll kind of show you the bikes provide some orientation um and then we like Dane mentioned we stop a lot we talk a lot um and then we're gonna see some things on foot and then we're gonna ride a little bit further and and just experience several different types of infrastructure so um we uh we don't want anybody to ever do anything that they're not comfortable with so everything that we do is we call it a a challenge by choice it's your choice if you want to take part in that and if you decide that you want to skip that particular section or you're not feeling it on that particular ride or that section uh our van and trailer will never be far away you can take a break hop on the van and trailer um we're not here to be your eighth grade PE teacher to force you up a rope or you know uh into some sort of a a wrestling match we want to make this a good experience for you and our team is is trained in how to do that so I just want

It's your choice if you want to take part in that.

And if you decide that you want to skip that particular section or you're not feeling it on that particular ride or that section, uh our van and trailer will never be far away.

You can take a break, hop on the van and trailer.

Um we're not here to be your eighth grade PE teacher to force you up a rope or you know, uh into some sort of a wrestling match.

We want to make this a good experience for you.

And our team is is trained in how to do that.

So I just wanted to add those comments.

Thank you, Ryan.

Okay.

All right.

Anybody has any questions for Dave?

We'll move on to our next presentation.

That was okay.

Thank you, Dave.

Okay, our next um uh sorry, our next presentation is a housing update for Marley Stark, our chief housing officer.

Um, for those of you that have not had the opportunity to meet Marley, I hope that um well now is like is a great introduction.

And um, we wanted to go ahead and have this housing update.

Um, before because our very first item of new business can be the League of Cities SCEI implementation grant is a direct result of some of the work that she's been doing.

So I want her to have the chance to for you to hear it from her and not not from me.

So I'm gonna look that, I'm not ignoring it.

I'm I'm gonna look that way.

So that's why you don't see any turning direct.

So Marley, I will hand it over to you, and then are you able to make questions at the end?

Yeah, okay.

All right.

Um, so while I don't come bearing um premises of putting you on an e-bike, um, I will have some updates about housing preservation um production and partnerships.

So um before we jump in, uh just wanted um to take a chance to sort of introduce myself a little bit more personally um than maybe we've had the chance to do before.

So um, you know, as the the chief housing officer, I'll also be over the department of housing and community services, so formerly known as community resources.

Um, you know, I think some of you may know that I started with the city two years ago in our economic development department, um, sort of after wrapping up some grad work and public policy um at Harvard.

Um, but I think a lot of you probably don't know that I'm actually from Fayetteville.

Um, you know, so when I think about kind of our housing future, um, I think about Fayetteville as a place that's always been my home.

Um I think I'm deeply committed to making sure that Fayetteville stays a place that you know anyone can make their home if they choose to do so, regardless of their you know income or background.

Um, I think that work uh is naturally deeply personal for um for me.

You know, both of my parents have moved out of Fayetteville after being sort of longtime residents because of affordability challenges for seniors.

Um, so I think that's definitely sort of a frame that I bring into this work.

So just wanted to connect a little bit here.

And so thank you for indulging me on kind of a personal intro before we jump in.

Um but I'm gonna go over a few different topics here.

So production, preservation, and partnerships.

Um first part we'll focus on kind of our our housing deficit, um, closing that gap before digging into a little bit of information about the city owned land RFP.

Um on the front of preservation, we'll be talking about a few different programs that we're supporting in terms of keeping residents in their homes, um, as well as connecting residents to shelter and sort of deeper um more deeply affordable units um in Fayetteville.

And then lastly, we'll wrap up um with some comments on partnerships, um, some I think kind of like resident uh sort of community conversations, if you will, that we've been having over the course of 2025, um, as well as a look at some of the work we've been doing with Faithville Housing Authority and the Public Facilities Board.

Um, so in the production front, um, you know, in addition to kind of the annual housing assessment that we do, staff are also looking at um our annual production uh or sorry, rather monthly um production numbers, both in terms of uh permitted housing units, but also units that are actually getting completed and out into the market.

Um so I'm excited to share that we are on track to close our six-year housing deficit by 2026 based on sort of the numbers that we're looking at in terms of both um permitted units that we have in the pipeline for 2025 that we expect to come online in 2026.

Um so just wanted to provide an opportunity for us to share um that celebrating um that milestone uh since we started tracking this information in 2019.

Um I think a lot of these changes are in noticeable part um you know due to significant investments in terms of staff capacity that have really accelerated our review timelines, getting things to um into the housing market, um, as well as additional coordination um between staff, the planning commission, housing task force, um, even our local development community in terms of identifying um, you know, kind of common sense uh pro housing um reforms we can make to our code um to make it easier to build for small scale developers.

I think another kind of program that I wanted to highlight here is also our permit ready design program will be launching in November.

So keep an eye out for more info on that front.

So the city owned land are often.

So both in development services and engineering.

And I don't know if anyone else wants to speak to that or if we want to wait till the end for questions.

But Javan, can you speak to that just briefly?

Certainly, that was a major component of how supporting our approval of big boots to application phase of our development tops.

We're able to hire a new environmental operator, a new code officer on the development services side, on the engineering side.

We have a new review engineer to other reviewers that aren't necessarily licensed engineers and a new coordinator for our engineering projects.

So seven staff altogether.

That is all planning.

That's that's between the development services and public works departments.

So it was between planning, building safety engineering and long-range planning.

Thank you.

I don't know if there's lines fit to this in a minute, but I'm just trying to forlay what we've been given the last two years by long-range planning with the housing unit gap.

And I'm not quite competing because while potentially, which I haven't seen this that we're going to go to how long by 40.6, I don't think the housing stock is an appropriate types of housing that we need, if that's the case.

And I don't know that that has five to eight oxygen.

Yeah, I mean, I think so.

I think we've been talking about things in terms of affordability.

I think one piece that I'd really like to bring into the housing assessment, um, sort of our next cycle, which will be in like the first quarter of 2026, we'll be really sort of providing some additional information about like where our existing housing stock, like how that's matching up, because I think you know, I won't bore anyone with kind of like the concept of filtering and how production at one level can kind of filter down impacts to um sort of free up existing units to lower income folks.

Um, but that's definitely something that's on my radar in terms of being able to communicate what's the state of our existing stock.

That's because I think that's probably what we're seeing on the solar in cases and those entry level, no barrier to low barrier, um, as well as you know, you can tell showing the voucher policy.

Um I think when I get to the part about sort of FHA and our partnership there, it will also be a component about um some data sharing we can do around housing vouchers.

Uh kind of other point I wanted to hit on our uh production side of things is with the city-owned land RFP.

So in September, we released four different requests for proposal for mixed-to-income housing development on city-owned property.

Um, so I think you can think about this, you know, sort of the mechanism that makes makes affordable units possible within this context is really sort of exchanging um either be that through you know, a sell, a sale, or leasing um for sort of a nominal amount, doing a ground lease.

Um that sort of takes out one component of new builds uh that kind of contributes to the overall cost.

So allows the incorporation of some units that are affordable below our median household income in Fayetteville.

I know we've had some conversations back and forth kind of over the course of the summer about the difference between our regional um AMI numbers that you might see attached to some of our HUD-funded programs, but there's also um the way we've set this program up specifically is to sort of track with our Fayetteville AMI number that we um sort of monitor on an annual basis as well.

So not only sort of trying to, I think kind of when I think about the two primary goals of this program, it's really about um producing new housing choices that are available to you know, folks that are earning below the median household income.

So not just new development for sort of a luxury market, but really thinking about how new development can also benefit that kind of subpopulation of residents.

Um, and sort of a related goal, I think that we we really wanted to call out within the RFP structure was also the importance of including um units that were affordable for for households that are making under 60% of AMI.

Um, and I think one important note why I think we're we're big believers in terms of thinking about mixed income housing development as being part of our, you know, one part of our production strategy is just sort of um the importance of making sure that sort of neighborhoods we're building and different parts of our community are really set up to have um you know folks of all different backgrounds sort of living side by side.

And I think one important note um why I think we're we're big believers in terms of thinking about mixed income housing development as being part of our you know one part of our production strategy is just sort of um the importance of making sure that sort of neighborhoods we're building and different parts of our community are really set up to have um you know folks of all different backgrounds sort of living side by side you made a statement earlier you said that some of the units may be affordable is there specific a per spent percentage which are asking these developers to put aside for the most are we just truly saying these will all work plots being used for that.

So I think the the way that we've approached this, we've tried to leave it open-ended to some extent in terms of we're open to different types of unit mixes in the same sense that we're open to different types of development.

So we didn't want to sort of be over prescriptive in terms of how we were setting this up of this percent of units must be at this percent because like there are different types of homes that could go on these different size parcels.

So I think um the types of projects that we might see proposed for the Eastgate Plaza site in particular that's a little bit of a larger site that might be better suited for sort of a larger format where something like the church and center lot is is quite a bit smaller.

So not wanting to be overly prescriptive but I think to your point um kind of refining some of those uh points around what the actual unit mix will be and sort of at which affordability levels that will happen kind of through um the selection committee process um but just sort of I think that selection committee will be really grounded in the those sort of two primary goals um when we're reviewing projects and negotiating those terms that was on the selection committee.

That is something this is sort of preceded my stepping into this off or stepping into this role so I don't know if that's a that for me did on offhand from the council is it I thought it was council person more but you were on the home is it cancel person burn is it you are you on that one okay and I I'm just trying to get because I don't I still don't feel like I got a solid answer.

This came up last time um I've already talked to some developers and they said this is really not affordable to do that some benefits that get in and the answer I got last week and the week before if it's not affordable we're not gonna do it but it sounds like what you just said what I heard you say is we could possibly do it and some of the units could be affordable.

So I'm trying to figure out what are we doing?

I want to make sure that I understand your question and I I'm trying to understand sort of the difference between what you felt like you heard last week and what you're hearing now.

Are you trying to make a distinction between whether every unit and the building will be affordable or if it's for these plots were put in this R and P specific to address affordable housing.

That's my question.

And Marlene may I because I know you asked me that question and I think I gave an answer that sounds very different.

And so I would like to just weigh in on what I think I'm hearing you say the goal of this program is right up there one and two.

We are not interested in in building luxury housing sitting on the land the goal is affordable.

I think that you were probably being very very specific and trying to be very nuanced about like you don't know yet if a proposal is going to have 60% affordable or if it's going to have 52% I mean correct.

And so but I think to minister I don't want to speak for you but Minister Jones I think the question I hear you asking is like it it made it sound like well we could get a proposal that didn't have any affordable housing in it and the selection committee would make that and that is not what this is about.

And so I think that just on a real basic level that's what she's trying to get at is that is this for affordable housing or not.

Yes it would be is that that is and I think my my last portion of that question was how do we commit to what percentage and I've seen individuals building in the city that say we'll do affordable housing and in their mind what was the low market but what's mobile market is not affordable to everybody and especially 60% low the AMI is not affordable.

That's not affordable to them.

So defining from this level what is affordable and if we don't define it for developers then they will define it for us.

So just looking at that list clearly the top one is the most valuable piece of property in the mix.

So how do you navigate that I mean that's probably just looking at it and nonmarket a little bit that's probably a million dollar piece property that the city owns so how navigate that versus you know the you know roughly actually more uh more acreage uh but the Seven Hills property there's you know not as uh not as valuable how do you navigate that with the housing yeah I mean I think part of that you know and sort of one of the reasons why we split uh you know each parcel into its own RFP um is really kind of understanding that I think the development community, you know, which would include both you know private developers and also sort of like nonprofit community housing development organizations would certainly be appropriate applicants for each of these RFPs uh sort of trusting that they have um kind of a sense of different models that could work on different sites.

Yeah, I mean, I think part of that, you know, and sort of one of the reasons why we split uh you know each parcel into its own RFP um is really kind of understanding that I think the development community, you know, which would include both you know private developers and also sort of like nonprofit community housing development organizations, um, you know, would certainly be appropriate applicants for each of these RFPs, uh sort of trusting that they have um kind of a sense of different models that could work on different sites.

Um so I think that's something that I'm excited um to sort of see how that comes out um, you know, through the selection committee review process, um, seeing what that looks like.

I I think we've also found at least um having been involved with our HUD home RFP, um, which one of the eligible activities is around uh you know housing rehab or housing construction um is kind of knowing that sort of the initial proposal that we get, you know, when they turn everything in on the due date, um kind of what the final plan is going to look like is going to differ slightly.

So I I think really just trusting uh that through the selection committee process, making sure that we're following procurement laws, but also using that as an opportunity to sort of negotiate um the best possible outcome for the community and using that public land for public good.

Okay, sorry.

So I would really recommend, and I feel so much more comfortable about this, is if we had minimal standards because you know, we could walk away from this.

So for example, if um it was 6040 or there was only 40 percent of available housing, you know, I I wouldn't have a I would recommend a high threshold if it's legal by state law, that a minimum of 80% of that has to be under the 60% AMI because again, that's the goal.

So you want to be able to walk away.

If you don't get any RFP, if you don't get any applicants that can meet that, then I think it's probably more um beneficial to the citizens of fable to keep it and not have it developed.

So that would be my first recommendation.

The second one would be to make sure maybe this is already within the RP is that you have a duration.

So it's like 30 years or something, very long term that you make sure that they maintain that the AMI extinction.

So I I'm kind of agree with Minister Jones.

I'm I'm concerned that uh we're gonna give developers big right by using city property, but we're not gonna get enough affordable housing back from it because of the way the market is right now in our city.

Well, I feel like that's a bit of an experiment too, right?

I think we're gonna pay our bug in the water, kind of like we did with ARPA money allowance with the one point six with we were able to kind of put that out there and see what came.

So I appreciate I think in Ohio is very much a proponent of let's put every city owned parcel out there, right?

And so I think I see this approach as being more of a pilot to just say, see, what could be what left the but like with the ARPA body, we kind of rejected some of the initially and then they came back.

So I just don't have to accept the proposed.

Yeah, we're not locked in, is my intention.

So is there a rumble amount that you set uh in terms of the percentage or are you gonna consider that in terms of percentage of units?

Percentage of units.

I think we've not set that within within the RFP that's been issued, but um that's definitely, you know, I think by design we've we've set this, structured this in a way where if we don't feel like we've gotten proposals that make sense, we can always look somebody.

And to on that point too, this is also something that you can negotiate with uh proposed awardee here on the back end, like we did with all those Arbow awards.

Um my question is that uh specifically about Eastgate Plasma.

That's right in my backyard.

But for me, it's a no-go, and I don't know if we're looking at it uh the inclusion of commercial mixed use in these projects.

I mean, it pretty much just the Eastgate Classic project.

I think that we would be missing a huge boat if we just turn that into residential.

I mean, it's right there for for a neighborhood hub for commercial use without commercial use.

I I would hate to see that happen.

Oh, we have there is a gas station.

Yeah.

So you said in the RFP looking for those projects, and will that be weighted when we look at these projects?

Um I think another thing to kind of clarify about each of these RFPs is there's sort of a series of you know, sort of more specific details to each site.

So there's a point just sort of generally about the opportunity, why the city's involved um with kind of using this as a tool for housing production.

Um but then there's also sort of a site-specific component.

So for that site in particular, um, that's something you know, staff that worked on this um have certainly identified as we'd like to see something that's mixed use there.

So that's sort of detailed in the RFP.

We've also pointed out um kind of a few other points about that site that make it you know particularly well suited for mixed use um in terms of like transportation stop nearby um sort of proximity to other assets.

So um for that site in particular I think that's definitely something we're looking to see.

Thank you.

And I know you have more slides and we'll do more questions at the end but I just want to make sure it's clear to everyone especially for those of us that are new that this doesn't put out the RFP doesn't tie us in or or our tie our hands and forces to accept anything.

I mean each proposed thing still didn't have to be voted on separately but as a step to because I know you you told me that months ago you wanted to put all the city on land out there into RF and I think that you know one of the reasons we wanted to take a more measured approach is to see what we learn and what we get and kind of step in the process of sort of seeing how this tool could work for our community.

One more state at it and I completely understand where uh Monique and Trix uh are coming from what we're saying.

On the flip side of that though I want to be cautious that we're not too restricted because right now we have very few options.

So we've got raw pieces of dirt here that are not having any housing built on right now and we'll make it so restricted that a developer can't develop it and and what are we got we still got raw piece of dirt.

So I don't want to I don't want to be so restrictive in our thinking that we eliminate the option of a new concept of affordable housing and and market rate housing that we don't really have right now.

So why let's not get too restrictive and closed minded on on what we're talking about.

And again we're going to review everything but just remember that we just got raw pieces of dirt right now.

And I think um one other note I wanted to make about kind of some of the guidance we have around kind of unit mix and affordability levels.

If you think back to our economic vitality plan one of our sort of primary uh community development goals that I think um not only we've referenced on the RFPs, we've made it available a sort of suggested background reading whenever folks are thinking about putting together their proposal is really thinking about uh the city's focus on helping um you know residents that are making up to 120% of AMI because we know that affordability concerns are creeping up the ladder.

So I think that sort of um at least in my head is sort of the the upper limit of I think unit mix that we could tend to see but again sort of the the real focus and the real point of this of this sort of pilot exercise is to think about how we can get um sort of the below 60% AMI integrated into new development.

Any other questions um wanted to cover um just provide a little bit of information about some existing um programs that are keeping residents in their homes um making sure that they're they have um you know the option to stay in homes um but also making sure that those are sort of uh safely updated over time um so uh as of um early October uh the housing and community services team we have a home repair and rehabilitation program.

You may have previously heard this um referred to as the housing program.

I'm trying to get us to be a little bit more specific about what we're calling it just so there's not any confusion.

We've invested almost 200,000 um to date across 14 low-income household um rehab or repair projects um so in our sort of consolidated plan for the year um we had a goal for this program to support 10 households um but we're currently at 14 and we've still got some in the pipeline so um very happy with the team um in terms of keeping this program rocket and roll in um through the year and seeing um how many additional low-income households we can support with this program um for the remainder of 2025 um one thing I wanted to put on your radar um HCS uh and uh sort of our stormwater team have started talking about partnering together to create a similar program that would really be focused on supporting um you know Fayetteville residents whose homes are in sort of flood prone areas uh we're still working out uh sort of the details in terms of scope um but kind of the initial number that has been thrown out um is around uh 300 thousand dollars uh so just wanted to flag that as something um to keep keep an eye out for and I'll provide more information um as we continue to scope that out.

Is that um still in works you said in your development yes could you consider um even foundation repair after storm yes I know that's another issue that's come up before and just an actual real world example on that I know Chris came and said that he was looking at a program that we could buy out houses and they were solid houses and it's instead of doing that we can spend make sure I'm saying this correctly a little bit less money but raise the house.

So we're not taking that housing stock out of this.

If we tear them down, we're taking housing stock away, but instead of we're raising them.

So it's just an out-of-the-box way to get them.

Yes, raise not raise.

Yes, yes, R AI.

Yes, sorry.

But these were houses too that have been taking on water and historically been ones that we've really been trying to solve for as well, right?

But yeah, looking at being three thousand dollars for buyout, now like that we can potentially help more houses or I think 50,000 or quite a bit reduced, which I appreciate.

But I mean, those were you know things that were needing to be addressed with the stormwater.

Yeah.

So I think uh just to sort of round this side out.

I think this is a good opportunity to think about different issues that are sort of interconnected.

So not only housing preservation, but also thinking about sort of climate resiliency moving forward.

Um, I think that's gonna be an important topic to think about how those two um items overlap in the future.

Um, another note on preservation.

Um, you know, wanted to talk a little bit more about how we're connecting residents to shelter um into more sort of deeply affordable units.

So I think we've continued to strategically invest in permanent supportive housing.

Um, wanted to talk a little bit more about my team's hearth program.

Um so this is currently operating at full capacity, you know, involves uh not only sort of a housing subsidy um to keep people um in in a in a housing situation, but also offering sort of wraparound um services and case management um from our case management team.

So right now um to date, this is uh currently supporting 41 adults and 10 children in our community that would all sort of fall under um you know low income, low-income household criteria.

And can you remember just how long you've been in the role of cheap housing means?

Just about three weeks.

Three weeks.

Okay, I just think that's good to then as you're going through these.

Um so in the coming months, I'm also excited that we'll be able to share some more details about how we're planning to leverage our HUD home funding to continue to fund permanent supported housing work in partnership with new beginnings.

Um, so the project that we'll be looking at is really focused on converting some existing duplexes into sort of more functional um permanent supportive housing, making sure that folks aren't having to sort of like share spaces and that might not be the best um fit for this type of housing uh stock.

So we'll have more information on that.

Um we're kind of in a holding pattern with our home um with our home subs recipient agreements just with the federal shutdown.

Um, but our team is working to have kind of all of our paperwork, sub-recipient agreement drafts, all of that sort of ready to go for ultimate review on the city's end and on Hudson.

So um more info to come on that piece as well.

Um also wanted to highlight um two more investments that we've made this year um in this space.

So um 150,000 to expand bridge housing with new beginnings and then also um sort of 70,000 contingent upon um Salvation Army's uh receipt um of an uh ESG funding from the state.

So this is sort of another pot of money that we don't have access to as a city, but we can support nonprofits that are going out for that sort of state um allocation of that funding.

Um is there a wait list for you at MATS capacity?

We are at Max.

Is there a funding list uh available?

Are we just at MATS capacity that we can support with the um background services?

Um it would be with the funding.

So is that matching funding or is that CDBG?

Uh CDBG.

We currently don't have any like video payable general funds that are allocated for invoice fund.

Okay.

Um and then I saw one more slide here um in terms of partnerships, um, kind of around supporting community conversations.

So back in uh late January, early February, um sort of this work was really um, you know, driven by our arts and culture director, um, but involves uh sort of a cross-departmental um effort, um, not only uh within the city, but also sort of drawing in some additional uh external partners from sort of our creative um community.

So we updated our feasibility study looking at a few different sites across town that might be suitable for sort of like live work um affordable housing uh targeted at artists in the creative community.

So um I don't want to steal Joanna's thunder.

I think there's more info that'll be coming about this um within the next couple of sessions.

Uh but just wanted to highlight this as kind of an example of thinking about um, you know, resident subpopulations that we're thinking about that we want to support um in our housing work um and kind of uh just sort of the way that cross-departmental uh work can support that moving forward.

Other item that I wanted to highlight here, our economic development team led a focus group of tenants, landlords, and property managers back in May or June.

I'm forgetting at this point in terms of timeline.

But that really helped us refine, I think have a good community conversation around rental fee disclosure, helped refine the ordinance a little bit and also allowed us to create some sort of sample disclosure forms that really responded to a need we were hearing both from renters and from landlords that were part of that conversation.

So wanted to flag that as an example of I think there's a lot of good voluntary work we can do around, you know, some cities call it sort of a good landlord program.

I think there's a way that we can try to increase some some good outcomes for tenants and that in that space.

So it's sort of on my one of my um on my to-do list, if you will, of things that I'm looking into, see how we could support that with our existing staff.

Um lastly, just wanted to highlight, I know several of you were able to attend and just wanted to say thank you for our housing co-create.

I'll talk about this a little bit more in a later presentation about an additional grant we're looking at.

But this was another opportunity where we were able to work with the local nonprofit circles in WA to support uh resident-driven housing solutions.

Um I have two more slides about partnerships.

One just wanted to highlight some information about the Fayville Housing Authority.

Um, you know, I really see FHA as one of our most important partners in addressing housing needs for residents that are living either on low incomes or you know, sort of fixed incomes.

That includes our seniors and individuals with disabilities that have you know very specific housing needs.

Um, you know, I'm thankful to to the mayor and to this council for authorizing the 200,000 dollars you know needed to help FHA sort of retire prior debt.

I think that's really that investment is going to clear up their financial obligations in a way that they're no longer going to be limited in terms of um, you know, their ability to function at their full potential.

Um also really thankful for Shonda's leadership and I think her willingness to work with um with me and with other members of staff to think about uh you know what could be possible moving forward.

I think FHA is you know thinking about the future better positioned really than ever before to focus its time and resources on its core mission.

So be that rehabilitating proper properties, be that constructing new properties with deeply affordable units, managing affordable housing, really kind of getting back to the bread and butter of thinking about how we can serve our most vulnerable populations in terms of housing in the long term.

Um more thing I wanted to highlight here is that in addition to kind of having access to federal and state funds that we wouldn't necessarily have access to.

Um FHA also has some additional key advantages in terms of unlocking long-term affordability and new construction, um, just because of their kind of flexibility in terms of being able to enter cross-sector partnerships, um, as well as their ability to issue a few different bomb types.

So that includes public housing revenue bonds, mortgage revenue bonds, and some HUD backed RAD bonds.

Um in terms of next steps that I just wanted to put on on your radar, um, you know, we have a great working relationship with Shonda.

So we'll, you know, I expect to continue to collaborate on a few different things, including kind of scoping out some additional development opportunities for FHA, also thinking about how the city can support them as they're trying to access new federal resources that will really help uh low-income residents transitioning, but transitioning between housing opportunities, um, as well as I think there's kind of an emerging opportunity for us to do some data sharing around housing vouchers.

So that's something we have in our landlord registry right now that I think we've sort of underutilized as far as creating kind of a public-facing mapping tool of some sort to designate sort of properties that do accept those, um, as well as some additional data that Shonda has around that point.

Um, and then lastly, just wanted to talk a little bit more about the public facilities board.

I'm personally very encouraged by our recent efforts to kind of reconstitute this for.

I think it's a really important tool that we can use to finance housing and community development projects moving forward.

You know, I really see it as a flexible financing mechanism, um, you know, in the sense that the board can issue uh revenue bonds.

Um, they can also partner with local lenders to finance construction or rehabilitation projects.

So these would be bonds that are repaid with project revenues as opposed to tax dollars, which I think gives us flexibility in thinking about how we can partner to sort of respond to strategic opportunities as they come up, both around construction and rehabilitation moving forward without kind of having some of the limitations we'd have in terms of you know debt limitations or you know, other things like that.

Um so just wanted to to flag that I think one one big piece of work um in the immediate future that you'll probably hear us working on is really thinking about how we can re-engage this board to expand their scope.

Um so I think the way that we've currently set things up in the ordinance, um, there were kind of two areas that we can give them uh sort of more room to run, um, both in terms of expanding what resident populations they're allowed to serve with their with their housing projects, um, and also including um residential rehabilitation in addition to construction, which is the latter is currently allowed by ordinance, but the the former is not.

Um so with that, just wanted to say thank you for giving me some time to update you on a lot of the work that we've been doing.

Um hoping this is something we can do more frequently and happy to answer any other questions.

About the public facilities work in the past have they actually uh issued bonds and um and actually build certain things we have a previous example, I guess, of their use.

Yeah, and if anyone else wants to jump in here too, because I know this some of other people have been doing research.

The example that I've heard the most is sort of like butterfilled trail, that being kind of a component.

Um that's nice, which is not an affordable.

They have not to answer the question I think you might be getting at.

We they have not in Arkansas yet, or shouldn't say in Arkansas in Northwest built with an affordable component.

So through conversations with um someone that has a role similar to Marley's um administrative CDBG funding, um, who used to do that work in Jones Barrel that is now a broken in Rogers and um Duke McClarty from Brownwork and the new members of the public facilities board may have been looking at a plan to do a mix that would bring it in affordable.

So it while nothing to take away from Butterfield Trail Village, it's a wonderful thing in our community, but it's not we we recognize that's not affordable.

That's not a long time ago.

Yes, yes.

That's why it was reconstructed because they're planning on doing some more development butterfuel trail one of them usually tax advantages of that.

They also have new members that are interstelling ways to have affordable components to governments.

And talking with um an attorney who does a lot of the ones that are in Arkansas, you know, one of the challenges that she talked about was that it's typical that the mix is like 50% of them being like 80% AMI and like 50% being the market just because it's a revenue bond.

And so they have to be able to have the rents then like cover the cost, and that's more in like the new construction realm.

And so potentially with um existing units, you potentially could come up with a different mix, but that it does create a bit of a challenge when you're thinking about the lower AMIs um through the speed goals.

It would definitely be a new, it's definitely an experiment.

I mean, not certainly a new thing that we would be working to try to do that hasn't been done before.

And my understanding is we do have some existing language under sort of like what a qualified residential rental project would be.

Um, so we have some a breakdown of at least 20% of the units being occupied um by individual individuals earning below 50% of AMI.

Um there's sort of like a few other caveats in here too.

So there is some baked-in language that I think will be part of revisiting sort of like what populations can be served by that sort of residential component that the board is allowed to do.

So revisiting sort of what um resident populations make sense to include there too.

I appreciate your update.

And I know you only been here a few weeks.

So it's kind of as an ask is uh I'm really appreciative of the work and the diligence too that's been done, I think the housing authority to get to the point where we are.

And I appreciate Chandra's leadership, you know, but there has been a rocky road over time with FHA.

And so there's a lot of housekeeping that kind of still has to be done with current properties.

And so trying to understand truly what kind of lift and workload that are they're going to be available to be part of what kind of capacity and units they can bring on.

Um, because for instance, I think in the near future, what they need they probably will be focusing on in the next several years is the redevelopment of willow hides and lowest awesome.

And my question then becomes how much capacity do they have to partner on the preservation of existing affordable housing earning management of additional projects or units, um, and what other potential appetite do they have for the other avenues they have available to them just because they are a small staff.

And that's a huge lift with redevelopment.

And also I'm really appreciative, and I think we'll get additional units out of those two properties.

There was value, someone brought up it might have been you, Marley.

I'm sorry, and you're talking about the value of creating um an ecosystem that really is across lots of uh economic backgrounds, and that's how you know we used to have these like throughout the humanities.

And I think that that's the challenge with looking at a lot of different financial vehicles too, and trying to think about having as many possible tools in our full out of partners as I'm left if HIA to go do 10 different things, but I don't know if that's really a reality for them.

Maybe over the next 10 and 20 years, right?

They can do all these different things, but maybe in the first five years, they can only do these two things.

And I think getting more can create information around like what they look like in that.

It's like they can look at purchasing an existing property.

Yes, but are they really like are they ready to jump into 130 unit property that's gonna lose its affordability?

I don't know.

I mean, question mark.

I don't know if they're ready to do that if they're trying to redevelop two other properties.

And if they're not, we need to understand that better to understand it.

That's our role and see if they will define another partner in those ventures.

Is uh little it's Morgan Manor, not in the spec.

Well, it's not that needs to be more, but Morgan Manor off of 12th Street is as a vehicle.

They have brain space available to adding that.

Um I think our next, I know that um Shada will be um at the meeting next week, but then I think her next regularly scheduled um because as part of the the funding that you all voted up read them earlier this year, there was um an agreement about coming back and checking and presenting to counts.

And I think that's in late November, but um there is going to be an update before the end of the year.

I don't want to be wrong about the day, so those are good.

Um I'll try to make sure um that you have a headset so that we can be thinking about this question that we want to make sure so that they're prepared to my comments would be on the RFP process.

I really like the flexibility that's filled in versus the findings the percentages because the deeper the cuts, the fewer the units that you're going to get at that level.

And I would assume that some of our proposers will propose a range of discounted rents.

Um where project in trouble is when they don't generate enough revenue to be able to maintain the property and then 10 years in, you end up having a real problems.

So Bob's comment about mixed piece makes per sense the commercial use is rational to be included because that meant paying the entity touchdowns social as the building.

So I'll be looking forward to see what kind of mix we get and what the market will bear because it's obviously going to be um interested people that are going to respond.

So I really commend the administration for putting those out there.

Thank you.

How long are these RFPs open?

Um November 18th is the closing date.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Marley.

That's um we're really glad to have you.

And that's uh I know we'd take a lock in three weeks.

If you want to just stay there, you're the next item of business.

Okay.

So are you to extend that before you build your computer?

Those are our agenda session presentations.

And so that moves us to new business.

Um for next week's meeting.

The first item of new business.

Well, as of now, we've got a one.

The first item of new business is the 2026 National League of Cities SCEI implementation grant application.

A resolution to authorize the application of an implementation grant for the National League of Cities and the amount of $60,000 to pilot a housing preservation to give workforce development program.

Marley, can you speak to us about that?

Um I have some slides, so I'm trying to pull those up as well.

Um second item for tonight um is about requesting the approval of an application for a $60,000 implementation grant from the National League of Cities.

Sorry, I'm multitasking.

I'll help you stall by saying many of you remember that the first script that she received resulted in a workshop up at um uh Mount Sequoia.

I know Councilperson Burno, you were there, Council Person Moore.

Thanks like you were there.

Um, and here we go.

I think my computer has just died.

Um fortunately.

This is a charter.

Sorry, everyone.

Is there not, isn't one of those a charger?

It has a USB C if there's a charger.

If there's a charger, no.

We have it.

Does someone else have access to it?

Okay.

Marley or Brycey can bring her computer at maybe that's where I want.

Sorry, wait a kick me off some of the screen.

Okay.

Back here.

Oh.

Oh, is that right?

Yeah.

Matt, me.

Yeah, how about we do that?

I'm gonna uh thank you.

Go ahead and do that.

Well, to give Marley a bit of reading room, um, proposed agenda additions is at the end, but we have it here.

I can go ahead and talk about that while she's getting set up, if that's okay.

If no one objects, we have a proposed agenda addition from councilman member burna.

It wasn't uh printed, but you all should have it at your desk.

It's um to approve vacation 25-19 for property located at 902 and 908 West Hugh Street in Ward 2 to vacate approximately 656 square feet of street right of way.

So I was approached by a developer, he got caught in the uh commission meeting that the form he was there to present and they didn't have to uh so we're first time and you might remember that it happened.

So uh then it kicked him in a position where then they had the the planning commit uh planning department had uh start the 15 day, I believe it's 15 Jonathan helped me if I'm correct 15 day notification all over again.

And it put this gentleman this past last night through the planning commission.

Square feet gas means here to bring walk it on and get consideration.

So project so that's all this is.

The planning staff uh recognition approval and the uh planning commission passed it on consent last night.

So appreciate y'all consider it.

And I I don't care where we add it.

What kind of action do we need?

Okay, we saw kind of nod our heads to say that's quote.

Yeah, yeah, just we want to add it at the end is fine or very first.

You don't think there'll be a lot of people to come speak.

Okay, then it shouldn't hurt to add it at the end or something.

Looks like there'll be anybody there.

Clark Saxon, is that are you able to add this to then to the agenda wherever the council wants it?

Put in whatever you all are like there's anything next to the other vacation, maybe to do the two vacations and save the results for the end.

Oh, yeah, not opening that.

Great.

Okay.

Thank you all.

Um okay, uh Marlene, are you good to go?

Yes, so it's briefly.

One will be the first item on new business next week.

Great.

Um, so just as a brief agenda, um, wanted to provide some background on our work to date with the planning grant that Mayor mentioned.

Um, also give an overview of the implementation grant opportunity um that we're looking at right now, and then also share a few thoughts on how this works sort of strategically aligned with our current housing objectives.

Um so if you think back to May of this year, council accepted a $15,000 planning grant from the National League of Cities.

So this allowed us to participate in what they called our Southern Cities Economic Initiative or S C E I.

Um, so we joined a cohort of 19 other cities across the Southeast, um sort of participated in a uh what they called an economic inclusion boot camp over the course of the summer.

Um and we also received one-on-one technical assistance from NLC and their various sort of data and funding partners.

Um so in September, kind of all of this work culminated in the city sponsoring the housing co-create event in partnership with Circles NWA, who was our nonprofit partner on this preliminary grant application.

Um really focused on ways that we could kind of use their model that they've used for community uh community-driven solution identification that they've used on other topics like transportation, um, thinking about how we could use that model for housing.

Um so all of that work in September concluded in a resident pitch competition on kind of the second day of the housing co-create workshop where folks were able to kind of form teams with their neighbors and develop different solutions that were either focused on supporting renters, expanding pathways to homeownership, um, or creatively using existing spaces for housing.

Um so the the item that we'd like um to sort of flesh out with our implementation grant is the winning pitch from that resident pitch competition, which I think they've uh cleverly called development squared.

So thinking about how this sort of sits at the intersection of housing preservation, sort of housing development and workforce development, kind of a need to build out that target industry sector within our community as far as the workforce that supports our construction and preservation efforts.

So the way we've envisioned this is really a two-pronged approach to reactivating vacant homes.

So that was sort of one of the key issues that they identified in their in the in their pitch presentation, while also sort of increasing, reactivating those to increase our affordable housing stock.

So phase one, sort of that we've mapped out in partnership with the long-range planning division, is thinking about ways that we can sort of map vacant properties in Fayetteville, specifically focusing on parts of town that we kind of have a sense that are facing higher redevelopment pressures.

The second part will be about sort of standing up a training program that focuses on providing residents, local residents with the opportunity and sort of the skill sets needed to support housing preservation work in the long term.

So I wanted to give you a sense of kind of how this grant, so that grant kind of on the right side of the screen really ties in with another grant opportunity that was on the consent agenda to tonight tonight.

So first of all, sort of participating in that planning grant earlier in the year is what made us eligible to even apply for this implementation grant.

So as far as kind of who we're competing against for this opportunity, it's a smaller pool, sort of a group that's familiar with the work that we're doing in the city around housing more generally and that have kind of walked along this journey with us over the course of the summer.

Staff also it sort of envisioned this as kind of a joint effort between the housing and community services department and the long-range planning team.

We kind of started talking about different work that we had been involved in.

Britain was one of our judges on the resident pitch competition, and we found that there was a lot of overlap in kind of this concept that we were interested in moving forward, as well as the windshield survey that will be part of that sort of CLG grant that Kylie talked about earlier.

So over the course of a two-year implementation period for this NLC grant specifically, we'll have the opportunity to kind of refine the concept that we got from residents, you know, just a little over a month ago, and also pilot what that model could look like moving forward.

We've looked at some examples from other communities that have really created similar workforce programs to support like larger scale infrastructure projects like road development, interstate investment.

But this is a from what I can tell, at least from for a municipality, kind of a first of its kind concept and thinking about housing preservation work more specifically and kind of embedding that work within specific neighborhoods.

I think that is sort of the reason why we felt like it it paired nicely with some of long range's work, kind of advancing the implementation of their heritage and historic preservation plan.

So I think that the NLC grant is a nice um, not only kind of has overlap overlap with the CL grant, uh CLG grant opportunity, uh also complemented as well.

Um, one other note, um, kind of the brass tax of the opportunity, um, wanted to note that there is a one-to-one local match associated with the implementation grant.

Britt and I are kind of conferring right now because we have a pretty good hunch that um some of the the funding that we're that we're getting through the CLG grant and kind of that piece might count as our local match for the NLC grant.

So just in terms of thinking about future financial obligations.

Um second note on sort of the local match pieces that we'll have until the end of 2027 to secure that local match.

So we'll have some time in terms of some sort of benefits of participant participating in the SCEI program moving forward.

Um, you know, we'll not only continue to get access to technical assistance from NLC and their partners, but we'll also have opportunities to attend these kind of like in-person convenings that will be attended by some national funders like the NEEKC Foundation.

Um the intent there is kind of that NLC will be able to help us identify some other potential sources for local match.

So just wanted to flag that we do kind of have a long runway in terms of identifying the match piece.

Um, so as far as strategic alignment, um, I think that piloting sort of a not only um, you know, workforce development program that kind of helps us advance some of our preservation goals, but also um, you know, is really resident driven.

It came from residents, um, you know, I think that allows us to kind of advance a few broader um, you know, housing priorities that we have.

I think first and foremost, um, thinking about that kind of catalog of vacant properties that will come as sort of the first stage of this project.

That's useful not only for thinking about kind of projects that we might be able to set up our folks who go through our training program to work on, get that on-the-job training, um, but we'll also be able to use that sort of resource in the longer run for um you know other sort of preservation projects or other things that run under the long range planning team.

So just wanted to underscore that kind of one of the key outputs of this program, you know, will serve multiple purposes and I think will be useful for us in a range of ways on the housing team as well.

And then lastly, just wanted to flag that kind of looking at the federal funding landscape moving forward around housing.

We're kind of monitoring an act called the Road to Housing Act that is sort of passed through the Senate and is sort of getting some additional sort of brad-based bipartisanship support.

A lot of that content is really focusing on rehabilitation of vacant properties.

It's focusing on repair programs, it's focusing on pilots, um, you know, for different sort of small uh kind of new opportunities, anything that's focused around rehabilitation and repair.

So I think kind of investing um through both the CLG grant and the NLC grant will really provide us with a strong foundation in order to be competitive for future federal funding opportunities around housing work moving forward.

Um but with that, happy to pause here and answer any questions.

Um anticipate, I know you and Brittany are trying to work out potential match, but what would that uh funding amount be?

Do you think?

So, you know, our local match commitment would be we're asking for sort of the max that we can, which would be 60,000.

That's sort of a budget that we can always um negotiate with NLC in terms of how they're looking at different projects together.

Um, so our local match being 60,000, um, sort of the math that Britt and I have started looking at is at least 90,000 for this kind of current commitment.

And then I believe there's um another uh sort of anticipated additional rounds of funding that we we would be able to get through the CLG program that could count towards our match.

Well, I guess I was confused a little bit.

I thought we were applying for 60,000, not having to match the 60,000.

So we'd be applying for 60,000 from NLC, which would require us to provide a local match of another 60,000.

But we believe we can cover that match requirement with some of the CLG, particularly.

We also think there are other film graphic opportunities.

Do where it wouldn't have to come from city city funds to be able to make match.

And we have until the end of 2027.

2027 to come up with that mandate to take that.

And do we uh the grant is really for the pilot portion of it?

Do we foresee any available funding?

And I understand that's uh crystal ball in your, but do we see potential funding that could take this past the pilot program?

I think so.

Um looking at you know a different uh a few different um programs, and I'll be obviously want to caveat this with things are always subject to change when we get draft um, you know, acts from from the federal government.

Um, a few of the programs that I've seen have been in relation to trying to provide some additional incentives and grant programs for uh cities that have opportunity zones, sort of like any project work that would happen there, sort of part of the the CLG kind of area covers both of our opportunity zones in downtown and in South Fayetteville.

So that I think is a nice opportunity that we could look at in the future if it does come into fruition on the federal level.

There will also be some additional competitive grant programs around home repair that I think would be a good match for kind of touting our you know potential um workforce development program as like a nice component in that, you know, through your application for that.

Um I know there's also potentially going to be some changes to CDBG in terms of additional funding for housing development specifically focused on rehab, like outside of the current rehab work that we can currently do under that.

That's another area.

Um a few of our team members will be at a uh sort of a community development focused conference next week.

And I'm hoping they'll get some more information about um outlook on that piece.

There's the pilot view project that that's going to be a location specific area, or is it gonna be citywide open citywide?

Yeah, I think that location specific makes the most sense to me.

Um again, kind of the the way that this cohort model has been structured is that uh you know NLC really tries to sort of step along the way with us to kind of craft what makes the most sense.

But I think as far as thinking about um, you know, any efforts to, you know, for placekeeping or like really like deeply um you know, kind of integrated neighborhood-based work, I think doing something um in a more targeted area would make sense.

And I think the potential to overlap it with with long-range planning's work um in downtown and southwest fail um seems like a natural starting place for starting point for us to consider.

So we did the collaboration with circles.

But I think from the first night, great information, but my confusion is what I left there with was some workforce development of preservation goals.

But what I heard you say tonight is that preservation goals are focused downtown and south, but then on the presentation, I see South was and Satleys.

So I'm really confused.

But if you look at your bottom, it says Southeastern Mill, affordable attractor.

Yeah, I'm glad you asked about that.

So that's actually a tool from the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.

So right now Arkansas is not actually included in that tool.

It's a really cool um they kind of did a demo for us for Brittany and I that will automate some of that like rental cost burden specific information we have in our housing report.

It would be like an automated way to look at that data.

We're in kind of preliminary talks with the Fed um to potentially get Fayetteville, maybe Northwest Arkansas as a whole integrated into that tool sooner, um, which I think could be a really you know useful kind of bonus of participating in this program moving forward.

And I want to go back to what was your in go from co-create because what I wrote down was that it was a hit of the pitch that happened around housing preservation.

So what came out of the pitch process, and was there anyone that was selected from that pitch process?

Yeah, so the this concept that we're wanting to flesh out was the winning pitch from that competition.

So the way that we structured both the first workshop night, you know, we kind of had those panels around renters, we had it around home ownership, and around um creating housing from existing spaces.

The next day, teams uh, you know, folks kind of broke out into teams based on which of those topics exposed the most to them, right?

And so over the course of the second day, um, you know, we did some kind of like a facilitated uh conversation over the course of several hours um where we kind of identified you know some some key challenges under each of those, and then kind of throughout the day, people got more specific in terms of working to working with each other to to generate ideas.

So we had um, you know, kind of eight pitches in total.

Um uh and then we had sort of a panel of judges.

Uh so the the development square concept was our winning concept, but I think there's a lot of um good content we saved kind of everyone's uh presentation decks and some of their um kind of ideation work they were doing on the big notepads, um, save that uh for for future consideration about work that um you know my team can be doing here at the city too.

I love that we were gonna be doing housing preservation, but look to me affordable and historic are have a huge gap in there.

So I'm just trying to figure out was the pitch process for more of affordable housing, or was it just around the NLC project trying to identify a project just from the historic?

And what it's so the NLC project was not focused on the historic project.

Okay, this is sort of like a synergy that we've identified as like Britain and I have been talking about different grants that we're pursuing and seeing if there's any opportunity for us to collaborate.

So um just want to be clear that with the development squared pitch, that's not necessarily locked into historical preservation, but I'm talking about like for preservation of existing affordable housing that is vacant currently, so bringing those units back into the market.

Okay, thanks.

I actually attended uh when they did the pitch and uh personally didn't want to be there when they came up with the ideals because I wanted to have a clean model.

This one clearly jumped out as many as the the one that had some legs that you felt like you could it's got possibilities.

So um uh I really love the uh workforce portion of it uh because uh that's that it's directly to one of the city's targets.

Uh I think we all can identify that workforce training is a component that we needed in group.

Uh and I I just and it really is resident-driven solution.

Um so I was really impressed when I walked away if this is this is something that could could really work while the pilot to see if we can scale it up.

Yeah, and uh with with that, unless somebody has any questions we're uh no surprise you, but I like this to consent.

I did have one more question.

So was this a particular organization presenting this?

It was all residents.

So there were some folks that were you know tied to different organizations like Genesis Church or um uh Southern Hills.

So we had you know definitely, I think a mix of people um who are there just because they're interested in residents and there because they do housing work in other capacities.

That was all that was the last question.

Thank you.

Do you want to move it?

Uh Mr.

Minor wants to move it to consent.

Do you all want to just let the clerk know what you what you would like?

I would just think you know, one argument for what we did on the agenda is to kind of get it out there as another thing we're doing for housing because I think what we've seen uh public comment and everything is people trying to say what have you done, what have you done, what have you done?

So I think by by having this new business, keeping in a new business.

Uh here's something with them.

Yeah, whereas I think it might get buried.

But that would be my only argument.

I'm trying to find either way.

That would be my only argument to keep it.

Where's that?

Okay.

Um C2.

Um is special election for the city to email them.

Oh, I'm so sorry.

I think we will leaving it on.

It's on new business now, and I thought that that was the decision to leave them.

So we need to make it.

Yes.

Okay, so I'm gonna um the next item, scene two.

Is special election for the city to issue sales tax and use capital improvement bonds.

It's an ordinance calling and set a date for a special election on the questions of the issuance by the city at the city of sales and use tax capital improvement bonds for various specified purposes, levying a local sales and use tax at the rate of one percent for the purpose of retiring such bonds and for prescribing other matters pertaining there too.

Um you all have heard from me enough on this item.

Um, or at least a lot.

And so there's a memo in your packet, and I um what we would do is uh we have the staff here to talk about each item, and the first item that we would be proposing in the ordinance is um the refinancing.

So with that, I will turn it over to Stephen.

Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor and Council.

Uh, just want to address a couple of things about the bond issue questions that as laid out in the ordinance.

When we had discussed these bond numbers individually, uh, and for the bond workshop, I indicated to you that at that time those numbers are preliminary.

We now have the final bond numbers, and that's what you see before you in the bond ordinance.

Um it's in the agenda packet, and it's not on the handout.

And so you mean in the packet in the in the agenda packet.

Um, and and to talk about a couple of those things in detail.

Uh question one is the refunding question, and as a reminder, this would need to pass in order for any other of the other ballot items to pass.

And the principal amount not to exceed in this bond question is 40 million dollars.

It's on the screen too, just in case you didn't.

I'm just pointing that out.

Uh, for you the for the other bond questions, you're gonna notice that the dollar amounts are different than what we have discussed before.

Um, these numbers now uh in the ordinance document include the project fees plus the cost of bond issuance, and that that cost covers um things such as the bond rating fee, bond council fee, our underwriters' expenses, our trustee fees, escrow fees, and ordinance and election publication.

And I also wanted to reiterate that um this is a continuation of the one cent sales tax that the city's been administering for many years now.

Um this is not a new tax.

I also want to talk about uh just uh reiterate a couple of points that that we had discussed at the last meeting.

Um we do not have the option to slow down the payment of the 2019 issue bonds.

We've committed all of that one cent sales tax revenue uh to paying off those bonds as expeditiously as possible.

Um that was a question I believe uh council member Turk had asked uh at the at the last meeting.

Uh for the water and sewer question, um, for that 2024 master plan report from Garver, it was recommended that the city immediately perform a large capital improvement project to address critical assets.

And as I mentioned before, um, I feel it's necessary at this time to begin work on that nolan plan.

And uh for the streets question, um, if the bond passes by the time we would actually receive bond funds in late 2026, um, the street funds from the last bond issue would either be fully expended or fully committed at that point.

Uh so that's another reason why uh we wanted to go ahead and bring this uh this bond uh issue to you.

Um ASAP.

And uh with that, I also wanted to mention that we've got our underwriter here uh tonight, Kevin Fott and our bond counsel Gordon Wilburn.

They'll be available to answer any questions uh the council might have.

Um the first item up is water and sewer.

With question one being the rebate.

Thank you, Mayor and Council.

So bond question number two does concern water and sewer.

It has three main categories with line shear going to the Nolan treatment plan upgrades, uh, precipitating from the Nolan facility master plan, which was conducted and completed last year.

This plan identifies 126 million dollars in critical infrastructure improvements, and it's a two-phase approach with the first phase focusing on critical infrastructure upgrades needed in the next five years to mitigate aging equipment failures and to maintain resiliency.

Phase two is needed in years five through 10, and it addresses additional process enhancements as flows and loadies increase through the years.

Uh breaking down the phase one uh is addressing the high-risk assets with potential to disrupt treatment reliability, increasing operational flexibility and redundancy across the major processes, and proper sequences of upgrades to maintain complete services during the construction of a phase one improvements.

Uh, phase two is uh needed, as I said, in the five to ten time horizon, addresses the additional process enhancement as flows and loadies increase.

35% of the phase one nolan project is capacity related, meaning it's increasing capacity at the facility, but maintaining the existing available capacity is completely relevant as reinvestment in aging infrastructure ensures a level of service necessary for the next iteration of development in our community.

Uh, the other part of this bond question is 10 million dollars towards the 36-inch waterline critical repairs.

This money will fund repairs on the 36-inch diameter water line that runs approximately 10 miles from Beaver Water District to Fayetteville.

This is nearly 60-year-old original line, and this line has experienced several catastrophic failures due to corrosion on the line on the external walls of this ductile iron pipe.

Uh, the third portion of this question is 10 million dollars towards water tank rehabilitation.

Uh, we do have 30 million gallons in drinking water storage, which uh is our reserve capacity.

Our tanks are above ground and exposed to the elements and experience normal life cycle needs of the elements when it comes to corrosion and coatings, as well as upgrading the climbing safety fixtures for our employees.

This 10 year towards several standing known rehabilitation projects that are needed, as well as several that are on the next cycle once we have our tank inspections again in 2027.

Uh these projects serve every resident, every visitor of Fayeville, every business, and every institution.

We will be utilizing these improvements.

These projects help secure and safeguard ability to grow housing and business for next generation.

Thank you.

And I should have said thank you, Tim, and I should have said at the beginning.

It was kind of our hope that we would do questions at the end, but also it's your meeting.

I mean, it's like so that the council, if you would rather, instead of waiting until we read all the way through them, you're you're welcome to do that.

It's whichever you prefer.

It would just be good to be consistent one way or another.

Just uh a quick question here.

So under the legislative text, I mean that that text to their question one reminds you funding the bonds.

Um that's too language that would be on the bond of outlet.

Um, this is the ballot language.

Okay.

So uh that's why it's been drafted uh by our bond council.

I've looked at it and my input and yes, that would be the bond question.

The exact question.

Okay.

And Gordon is in the back too, or bond council if we have that.

Okay.

Well, then if you don't have quite, do we want to hold to the end, or do you have questions for Tim now?

Or I wanted I want this to be informative for you all, and I want to give it how it makes sense.

I prefer after each segment, we if we can ask questions.

I just think that we have been quite exhaustive in our conversations around this.

Okay, for me, I okay.

Okay, I don't know about other council.

Okay.

Tim, thank you so much.

Question three um is parts and recreation.

And we have Alice and Jennifer here to speak to that.

All right.

Thank you.

Mayor and council.

Short sitting in this um, sorry.

Uh funds in this question will support critical upgrades to aging facilities and parks across the city that will serve all residents.

The project will focus on maintaining and improving existing assets, such as replacing turf uh playing fields and playgrounds.

It will also fund new park development and strategic land acquisition for future parks to fill service gaps to ensure our park system remains sustainable, safe, and reflective of our community's needs.

Parks are among the most powerful infrastructure investment a city can make.

They strengthen public health, safety, and quality of life.

They fuel economic growth and serve as essential green infrastructure for stormwater management and climate resilience.

Parks provide accessible, inspiring spaces that foster creativity and cultural expression and community connection.

It's hard to find another infrastructure investment that provides as much benefit to a city per dollar.

We feel if these projects are not funded, we may risk a decline in quality of life for our citizens.

Park infrastructure will deteriorate and we'll not be able to adequately serve our existing residents and attract new residents and businesses and meet the needs of our future growth.

Okay.

I was pausing for questions about part.

Okay.

Justine is here to talk about the fourth question, which is the animal services facility.

71% of American households own at least one pet.

Pet ownership numbers continue to rise as our population does.

Our current animal shelter facility has served this community for over five decades.

But the truth is it's reached the end of its life.

The building is outdated and no longer meets the standards that our animals, our staff and our community deserve.

We have reworked the existing space multiple times to create additional room for housing and helping animals.

But when people come to adopt a pet or volunteer or pick up a lost fairy friend, they don't always experience the warm, welcoming environment that should define a space like ours.

Simply put, our facility no longer reflects the level of care and compassion that we provide as a city service.

A new shelter will change that.

It'll bring us in line with other communities in our area, offering a more humane and healthier environment for the animals in our care.

It will create a friendly, inviting space for adopters, volunteers, and family.

And it will give our staff the tools and conditions they need to do their job effectively.

In addition, a new animal services facility would incorporate a community meeting room for the use of all citizens.

We are currently the only municipal shelter in Northwest Arkansas to have a veterinarian on staff.

This means that we can offer services and care without added weight or cost.

A new facility will expand our outreach services with a continued focus on assisting our most financially vulnerable community members with the ultimate goal of keeping families together.

This isn't just about a building.

With this bond, we can create a shelter that is truly worthy of the animals and the people that it serves.

Thank you, Justine.

And we just have some questions in regard to when we do the feasibility study for the building.

And I absolutely um do think we do an amazing job with those solid time today.

I mean, and and we uh pride ourselves, I think, on the service that we give, and I think our residents definitely are supportive.

My question really, though, in looking at facility, I believe the capacity to try to think about the next like 10 years and offer services, other areas um don't in our region.

Um that and being able to do like the treatment rooms and like the sort of surgery rooms and things like that.

Um, I'm just curious.

So if there are when we go to look at these buildings, um, you know, that is a substantial price tag.

Um, and you know, I know costs are continuing to escalate, and there are lots of challenges there.

But do we ever create a spectrum of portfolio of being able to scale it down between like building materials or sizes to try to get a better understanding too if we potentially value engineered in some way to be able to look at getting cost?

Um, because I think I feel like I just saw one number, but I don't know internally if additionally there were things that were looking to arrive at what we have.

I was just curious.

Yes.

Right.

So the consulting firm that we use is shelter planners of America, and they're one of the biggest names in that type of consulting type of business.

Um, so basically we went through a two-day process where we beforehand gathered population data, um, the data of the current services that we offer, um, projected growth as far as like where do we see our our population going, what services that we'd like to render, and then they are the ones that kind of developed the range.

And there was a little bit of a range, it wasn't much to decide, you know, like based on the types of materials that we're going to use, which are more expensive than your standard office building, um, that have to be more durable, is a little bit more specialized too in the housing that we provide for the animals.

So I think that that was the number that was arrived at and that in that feasibility study.

So no ranges, but then some of those when there's a low end and a high sub potential.

I just kind of add to that.

I think that that's something that's critical.

You know, we have a council member on every one of our RFP committee or selection committees.

I think that's something very important to bring up in that selection process when you're looking at architects and saying that that's an expectation that we have that we want, you know, a an A plus and A and A minus and a B plus type facility and give us options when you design that.

Because I know somebody made a comment on the recent EOC, the Washington County bill, and talking about what they could do for their dollar amount.

And I think that's something that can be very important when you're selecting that architect in that conversation.

So when that you know, when you're on that committee, that's something that should be openly discussed.

Yeah, can I add more one more piece of information to this?

I believe that um that study that was done recommended a facility that was in the price range of somewhere around 22 million dollars.

That was yeah, we cut that back significantly to to arrive at the number that that we've been discussing.

Thanks for mentioning the EOC.

I mean, they did do that, which is a special building for under 9 million, which I think is amazing.

I I don't know how they did it, but I don't think that we do that.

But it just in comparison, it's like, wow, this is a big step up.

And I think when you go to sell this to the to the voter, I mean, that's who you have to sell that number to you.

I think that's the way that we try to design projects as a city is using the construction manager at risk process when the construction manager is part of the arc, you know, the design with the architect.

And that's also something that you can, you know, the design team can work.

But I think it's important to have that during those RFP selection committees to set that expectation.

And so to that to Ms.

Moore's point, let's, you know, that hasn't happened yet with this project, you know.

Um kind of can you explain to you know, people that might not understand, let's say that we do that and the architect comes in and says, I can do this for I mean, I think my best analogy is uh when you buy if you go to buy a home.

Sorry, Sarah, to your real estate agent.

Because you go and you say my budget's 250,000 and you're shown 350,000 houses.

I think that that's uh when you were working with the architect or construction manager, you kind of give them an expectation of this is the type of you know, we would like to have the most cocktail cost effective facility as possible.

I think uh I'd add another piece to that too.

Um, you know, I don't know how old this building is, but I think you heard Justine say that we've been limping that animal services building by for 50 plus years.

We tend to keep our buildings a very long time.

And uh, and so sometimes it makes a little bit more sense on the front end to get what you need with the understanding that you're going to be having that building in service for a very long period of time.

Well, that is absolutely fact with what we we do with the city and our buildings.

But what the animal services are working with now is so far behind that that's why it has to be basically to get caught up really.

You know, and I was just I was thinking like 1975.

About 30,000 people.

The university was about 15,000.

Um, frank more coaches, you know, it's just like so long ago, it's hard to even imagine.

And it's really hard to imagine that they've done all of the orders they have that with that one building and it's in its current condition.

But when it's so far down, it's it's just I don't see how we can we've already cut it back some.

I don't see how we can continue the level of service that our citizens expect now and what they're going to expect from the future from start shaving off other so um just the questions I've been posed or more around we're looking at building this new facility west, which is away from the most marginalized and underserved community areas.

What is the intent to be able to service individuals that were leaving the area?

And is it is the building so far gone that we could do nothing in there that we couldn't even do a meet over there and need and help somebody that could access that area.

What is the future plan for the building that will be left?

Keith, do you want to I can mention a little bit about the the current belting because it's one of those things when we we bring a car to you to replace, you know, it's like a work committed car, what do you do with the old car?

You know, if you keep the old car, then you have additional battery, additional tires that have to maintain.

So I think when you look at that the shape of that facility, it's in very poor shape.

During our CIP review this year, we had to make some tough decisions on whether we were going to put significant money into that building or we're going to add to that to a uh future bond question.

So I think that there's very limited things that we can do with that existing building, uh, just because the shape that it's in.

And I think I don't know, you may have a better answer on as far as maybe public transportation options or something like that.

Because I think we have talked a little bit about that.

Yeah, absolutely.

So usually if you're asking particularly about like maybe our unhoused population, um, people that don't have as good of access to transportation as some of us are fortunate to have.

We already are providing transportation services.

So let's say, for instance, like we get a referral for someone that needs banter that's unhoused, like we meet them where they are.

So whether that's the day center, whether we're meeting at Genesis or wherever they are.

So we're picking that pet up, we're doing the surgery, we're recovering, and then we're dropping it back off where they can meet us.

So that's something that we already provide, and I we would plan to continue to provide for sure.

I guess I mean um not just the in-house, but marginalized individuals that have an animal, but they don't have transportation to get to them.

What is the avenue that we will do as a city to communicate how we can support you in the movement of taking access from the east side to now everything's on the side?

And I think I'm looking for communication fees.

Do you have a mobile unit?

That's what I'm looking for more than just saying we can come to you.

Right.

Well, I don't think a location has been determined yet that I know of.

I think it's still being looked at.

So that hasn't even been firmed up for me just yet.

So I'm not 100% sure that we will end up over there.

But definitely that's something that we would use all avenues to make sure that we're communicating to people however we can that you know we're still here to support you.

Hopefully, we'll have wherever it is.

I know one of the things that was important to me when we were doing the feasibility study, we were talking about making sure that there is access for all people to get there, whether they're riding public transportation or not, because they they do allow pets on that.

So that's the way that people get to us now.

We have a nearby bus stop.

So it's definitely something that's a priority for me when expressing our needs and trying to figure out where exactly it is going to end up.

It's just going.

That's something really good to think about when we're narrowing down on location.

Because it hasn't been decided that it's west.

And I think that's another that's another really good point that I'm glad that brought up.

Just because there's not like if we do know Westsides, just because of the cost of transportation that are now doesn't mean they're won't be that we've got this still for the future.

Especially if there's other things around it.

I think that's important when we talk about I know that what we were the goal and what we were trying to accomplish was city existing city owned land, just simply the money.

That's true.

Thank you.

Pedestrian infrastructure and trails and trails for people.

That's me.

Thank you.

So we're just excited to have this as part of the package to continue expanding what we've been doing, which is really been effective and uh really affecting families and and uh people being able to get around town.

We're really seeing it more and more where people are able to have an alternative way to get around our city, which has always been the goal.

Uh, you know, as you know, trails are affordable way to get around for transportation.

Transportation costs can eat up family budgets, and we're providing that way and with a focus on safety and comfort.

So we're building these these trails to be uh accessible and for all ages and all abilities.

And so that's where we're really focusing on separating it from the roadway if we're following a roadway.

Good example is Mission Boulevard.

You can see we're separating it by grass and trees and light poles.

Uh so that'll be the way going forward uh and continuing trying to connect our schools on our parks and our commercial areas and the destinations.

Um just providing those transportation alternatives and safe routes for all users.

Um also another component is uh our system is starting to age too.

Uh we have some some trails, some asphalt trails that were put down 20 plus years ago uh that are needing uh replacement.

Um fortunately, we have gone all concrete with our trail system over the last uh 12, 15 years.

Um, so those are gonna be much more durable going forward, but we do still have those relic asphalt trails around.

So that would be one to replace those with the durable concrete.

Uh and then the other component is our grant opportunities.

We've been really successful with grants through Northwest Sacrosa Regional Planning Commission, RDOT.

Uh, and so we can use the these grants or federal funding and uh 80 20.

So when we bring that 20% match, then the federal funding's 80%.

So like there's a lot of opportunity to leverage grants and make this money go farther.

Um the final thing, speaking of go making the money go farther is something that's really been instrumental in and favor success of our trail system is our in-house construction crew through our transportation department.

Uh just incredible having that crew.

They can build for a fraction of the cost that that would cost a bid amount and also a lot more less design time and design costs.

Uh so we can continue to use them and uh build these trails efficiently, get more miles out of less money.

Um, so just in summary, uh that the trails bond will strengthen our city's trail network by connecting schools, parks, and neighborhoods and commercial areas, creating safe and accessible routes for all users, all ages and all abilities, and we'll fund replacement of aging asphalt with durable concrete to keep our system in top condition by leveraging these funds to pursue additional grants, we'll extend the reach of our investments and continue building a more connected, active and resilient community.

I didn't have a question or Steven.

So I mean, um year over year, there's some grants that are annual grants.

Do we budget for those match rants at all?

Because I know some do ask for a lot of budget adjustments to do those grants.

Are some of them budgeted because they are annual match grants that we do every single year?

Yeah, I mean, if we apply for and receive that grant, that's something that we do tend to do.

But we have to make sure, you know, we we had this kind of this discussion a little bit earlier and we touched on this subject.

We need to bring it forward to council when when uh we need or putting city money on the line.

Right.

So we don't always budget for ones that we apply for.

Um we wouldn't do that.

We would make sure to come to you for approval first so that we can include that in the budget.

And I asked because I know our CDG um grant is an annual grant.

It's a match grant every year.

And the only reason I asked is because I see as a city council member, I see a lot of budget adjustments asking for that.

But if we know that every year we're gonna apply for that, whether it's transportation, whether it's trails, are city staff anticipating that in the budget.

Some I know you can, but some can't.

To the extent that we can, but part of the problem there is too, is most of these grant programs, they are an application process and it is not guaranteed.

And so it's difficult for us to basically budget for those revenues.

You wouldn't want to do that without assurance that you're gonna actually receive them.

And I asked that on because the last thing it says leverage grant opportunities.

And I'm thinking if we know that there's future grant opportunities, is this part of what we're asking for in the bond package?

That's what I'm asking.

Thank you.

Matt, um, you mentioned our trail crew.

Um, we only have one right now, right?

One crew dedicated to building trails.

Yeah, and then we have another only one crew dedicated to building sidewalks.

Right.

And I know that sometimes they're able to switch back and forth, which makes an overlap.

Um I know we already have a sidewalk and trail plan, but we already have a trail plan that goes out for five years.

Five years, right?

Would this money go towards those projects?

Okay, so it would go to the project we already have slated.

Yeah.

Um I guess my question about the pro like do we have enough crew to accomplish the projects we have?

Because I think it is great.

We can do it in-house.

And but if we have too many projects, then are we having a risk of to get this done in time?

We have to spin money and higher outside.

Yeah, and kind of a hybrid, which we've done going forward, like even mission was was crewed construction crew, sweet sir was out there and our crews.

And so we can sometimes even combine to get those bigger projects.

You know, that was a really difficult one.

And I guess I have a question for Kid.

Can we use can we use the bond money to increase our crew size of our trail?

Well, it has to be a capital project.

Um, and and so that's how I had an identity.

No, you could not use it for operating role on Q-Tat Rock.

You can't use this bond mining for operating costs.

If you're hiring a contractor, that's gonna get capital off in your trail, and you can do that, of course.

But uh, you know, keep in mind what you're authorizing if uh a question is approved, those bonds can be issued over a period of five years.

So we have five years to like allocate the bonds but when so we allocate a bond in year five we have three years three more years yeah okay thank you um just a follow up and Gordon you're welcome if you want to pull you don't have to but if you want to pull up a chair we can make room I we have you might do that more I can't hear very well and what oh yeah are there's okay yeah yeah yes I didn't mean to put you on the spot just in case I'll ask another question so go ahead Bob I think I I think I'm good right now.

This I wanted to fill in on your question about the five year plan so that is based on a uh spread the like a matrix of priorities we have that includes low income areas house school connectivity and so it factors all this in it generates a priority number for a trail and density and so that's where the five year plan is developed.

So naturally these bond projects are going to be the ones that also score high on that matrix because they're going to be good projects until even for months this is a bad thing higher but we need a screen there and um but yeah feel free to ask later and I guess in a way if we use the funds for the projects material for the cost I mean might that might free us up in our regular in our general budget if you hire more staff would that be state uh that's really up to you all uh yeah the if you can buy if you can pay for the projects like this then yes your staff can be doing other stuff yeah are you talking about by contracting and that's that would be no I don't want to I want to do this from one day okay okay other it's so much more efficient to do it in house but I I I but we are operating with one crew one side one crew for the city and one trail for the city yeah that's been a problem not full cruise but they are I think yeah we're going to pay study we have not yes that's that yes that's what I was thinking if we if we have the money coming for the bonds pay for the project that might free up care all funds to hire crew the discussion yeah and so that the back hold up anything and question six is roads to transportation correct yeah thank you transportation um so uh I just want to talk a little bit about our program goals for for this funding uh we want to improve access for growing areas of the city also continue to strengthen our downtown areas uh this will allow us to complete projects under the previous bond programs and also address new priorities uh we also intend to invest in paving and rehabilitation projects uh to keep our system in a state of good repair um as matt mentioned uh the the same uh ability to leverage our funds uh we'll we will continue to do that uh with these funds and uh I don't I don't uh don't want to brag but I guess I will uh we've uh received about 40 million dollars in federal aid funding uh with our current program over the last five years so uh we we certainly intend to continue to pursue those opportunities and and I expect we'll be successful uh projects in this program may include intersection improvements and turn lanes across the city uh corridor improvements area wide improvements and signal technology improvements to maximize efficiency of our existing network uh we also do want to continue passing are you I know you want to come and hear me speak so that's why you came back to hit that's awesome just wrap around thank you for coming back I know you okay Chris okay sorry uh uh we want to also continue investing in in downtown transportation improvements lighting sidewalks uh safety improvements and transit support uh throughout our downtown area and when I when I uh think about this program I I really think about it in three buckets one is to continue the 2019 bond program complete the projects that that we have not yet completed um including the Safe Streets for all program

Thank you for coming back.

I know you okay, Chris.

Okay, sorry.

Uh uh, we want to also continue investing in in downtown transportation improvements, lighting, sidewalks, uh, safety improvements and transit support uh throughout our downtown area.

And when I when I uh think about this program, I I really think about it in three buckets.

One is to continue the 2019 bond program, complete the projects that that we have not yet completed, um, including the Safe Streets for All program with its 25 million dollars in federal aid.

Uh we also want to uh pursue new priorities that have uh popped up due to growth of the city and changing transportation patterns.

Um and then finally uh maintain a healthy contingency fund to be able to respond to grant opportunities as well as address future transportation needs that may arise um due to growth and development over time.

Um and obviously the the goal of uh our transportation bond uh use of our bonds is to improve safety, increase connectivity and mobility, and maintain the quality of our network.

You know, translations or is it because I just don't see where any of this and I don't know, and I'm glad you see how we can use this towards funding and supporting Ozark regional transit as well as razor back transit, because if you can't get to the bus stop, it's rules don't mean a whole lot to you.

So my question is what can we do as a city and where does the money come from for us to support more routes for Ozark regional transit?

Sure.

So for the for the bond program, um, we uh these are these are capital projects.

So we can assist by um enhancing the stops, like like we've been talking about on other programs uh with building sidewalks and other connections to get to the to the transit facilities uh operationally.

That's a that's another question is not something the bond program can address.

I don't think I got my setting question answered, and anybody can take can you do you mind your research?

Yeah, is the funding come from to support more transportation to Ozark National Transit?

And I I know that I want I wanted to be said here.

What are we doing around supporting lower transportation stops, fixed routes, direct stops, and not just on demand transit?

And we've had this conversation before.

And I say it because we are fixing streets and we are making them better.

And I, of course, sometimes have issues with the way we're developing streets because if we say we want more transit, we're making thinner streets where uh a bus can't necessarily fit on, turn right on, make pull over and make a stop on.

If we say we really want better transportation in the city, we have to talk about better streets and match transit.

We cannot talk about better streets and not talk about fixed routes supporting Ozark regional transit.

My question is where in our budget do we look at that?

That comes from the from our annual operating budget in either the street fund or the general fund.

When we we talk about the 2026 budget, and Mayor, that's exactly right.

It's either general fund or street fund.

Um so that's something that that we're gonna need to take a look at.

That's a valid question too, to talk about you know whether or not you know looking at a dedicated revenue stream for transit going forward, because that's truly what it's gonna take to expand it to be a more robust system that's probably a very dedicated stream and potentially working with taxpayers to see if that's something that we're ready to go ahead and go into.

Because it'll just be near length to the edges if we're looking at a portion of the street on our portion of general fund.

I think even that expansion that we did of um South May Hill for Saturday was but that ended up being like 75 grand for that per quarter, per quarter.

What was that, Peter?

Okay.

So I mean that was considerable just to add that one day, and that's our highest ridership line.

So we really saw that that that ended up being a big demand, and we need to really look at investing.

But it's like how many others do we potentially have out there that we just don't even have the ability right now to bring up in 300,000 dollars easily to go test those other areas.

We'll say that's something I know that Peter is with not just ORT, but Razor Right Transit, I know, and trying to figure out where can we best spend our transit dollars?

And then as you mentioned, I mean, we do have limited opportunity, you know, ways to fund this.

So there is you know, opportunity to go out uh and ask for maybe you can comment on this specific to transit, the ways to other cities may fund that.

You know, they all have their separate authorities and they all need money.

You know, they all have their separate authorities and they all need my uh and you know, it comes down to taxes, you've got to put it to the voters and you know, put in the question what you're asking for, or they can decide.

You know, that that's under a different statute than this one, which is just got one booth.

Correct.

Thank you.

So I have one question, I guess for you in that because so it seems to me that a lot of these some of these safety issues kind of overlap.

So uh I'm sure with the bond, you cannot mix funds, but you can certainly partner on certain areas to uh adjust the street and put an extra safety line in there and and so they're not exclusive, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

So, yeah, the the all of the street projects will have uh sidewalk, they'll be complete streets.

Uh, they will have all the safety uh mechanisms necessary to protect our vulnerable users.

Um I I think that the the question is I guess the best way to to answer it is anything that um could be considered a trail or something other than a street, if if there was any question about that, and we wanted to put that in the trails bucket as a as a separate question uh just to make sure that there are no um issues with with spending money inappropriately.

I don't know if you may want to answer that.

Separate uses shall be voted off separately.

So you can type that to an extreme.

Um, but you know, as with anything else, we've had our share of court cases over the year, and the battle questions keep getting longer and longer because of that.

There was a courthouse bill today that it said parking.

Oh my parking lot, but this is why we have which may include language here.

So we've had similar questions for trails and streets separately before, and that has not been a problem.

Uh they will typically, yes, as as necessary.

Yes.

Thank you, Chris.

Um sustainability.

Peter.

Right.

Sustainability is a small but mighty bond question for 1,050,000.

Uh, and it'll fund um the construction of two waste diversion initiatives that are part of our uh climate action plan.

Um, the first of those two initiatives is a west side recycling um drop-off facility.

Um, the west side facility is going to provide uh recycling access to residents and businesses that are located uh west of Interstate 49.

Um, it'll also help relieve overcrowding and overflowing of materials that we have at the Mary Norton facility on North Street.

Um, with the with the addition of that West Side facility, we'll have three facilities in with good geographic distribution across the city of Fayville.

We'll have uh the one at the Happy Hollow Compass complex down in Southeast Fayetteville.

We'll have the Mary Norton facility on North Street and Central Fayetteville, and then we'll have this new facility out in West Fayetteville on the west side of 49.

Um so then the second initiative that we're gonna fund with this bond um is a permanent household hazardous waste drop-off facility um that'll have uh staff and that'll be available to residents and businesses so that they can safely dispose of old pesticides, fertilizers, um, oil-based paint, sharks, mercury items, uh other household hazardous waste and electronics, used electronics.

Um, currently the city operates a temporary household hazardous waste facility out of a trailer um that belongs to the Boston Mountain Solid Waste District.

We do that one morning a week in a parking lot at our Happy Hollow campus.

Um, so this will give us a permanent facility with covered storage and disposal of those um household hazardous waste items, electronic waste, and then other special wastes.

So glad to take any questions.

Again, small but mighty.

Yes.

Thanks, we can just eight an aquatic and recreation center.

Is this late or Alison?

There.

Okay.

Um, this question will fund uh an aquatic center that will support the health and safety uh of our community along with fostering community connections and support the local economy.

It serves and as an essential public safety function by providing swim lessons and lifeguard training that reduces the risk of drowning and builds lifelong water safety skills, which is really important in an area where we're surrounded by rivers and streams and lakes.

Uh the recently completed year-long feasibility study saw unprecedented public engagement with 2,854 people participating in the speak up surveys alone, and it indicated a strong need for the facility.

And it indicated a strong need for the facility.

The study identified that we have insufficient aquatic facilities for a community of our size, noting that comparable cities have 2.2 outdoor facilities and 1.7 indoor facilities.

Bayetteville currently has one municipal pool to serve over 100,000 people.

This project will provide year-round swimming and recreation opportunities, filling a key surface gap with this facility that will serve all of our residents.

This aquatic and recreation center strengthens community ties by creating an inclusive gathering space where families, friends, and neighbors can come together for skill building competitions and shared experiences enhancing the quality of life for our community.

Okay.

Thank you, Alison.

The last ballot question is fire facilities and equipment.

And we have Chief Garden on Zoom.

I believe, or on teams on a week on a in a virtual weeding format.

So I don't know.

Oh, great.

I am here.

So the fire department, our plans are for a uh over the next 20 years is a 46% increase in population.

Uh to maintain the uh current level of service, uh, we plan to uh you know build additional fire stations, then of course backfill uh you know fire companies in our existing fire stations.

Uh to fund these expansions, we plan to use uh, you know, the impact fees and uh and of course this bond.

So the bond is going to fund uh a single new fire station uh and the apparatus and equipment uh you know required to staff the fire station uh with the additional uh you know fire stations, we're gonna need additional personnel.

And our current training uh facility really isn't big enough to uh you know to manage what we do currently, let alone a uh you know, a uh staffing that's much larger than it is now.

Uh so we are planning to build a new uh training facility or a new training building there on our existing property.

Uh and then lastly, uh, you know, as everybody's aware of the fire trucks and uh they they've increased in price uh dramatically.

And so we plan to purchase one fire or one additional fire truck uh or replacement fire truck uh with our uh with these funds.

So and that's it.

Happy to answer any questions.

Thank you, Chief.

That's projected.

Do we break that down in the city?

Um to how we think it will assort.

Yeah, I'm just curious when we're talking about that.

She can you hear council member more?

I I can.

Um, so that's a really tricky um and last time we haven't started the analysis yet to try to determine exactly where the growth is going to be.

Last time we did it, we looked at uh we looked at the different zonings and uh and and tried to utilize that.

The problems are, you know, I mean, as everybody's aware, the zoning is uh, I mean, it it could change at any given council meeting, uh, but there is a direct correlation between the population and of course the zoning, and uh which also the more people there are in that area, the more calls that we have.

And so we do try to plan and and not just for today, because uh, you know, as I was pointed out earlier, these buildings are for 50 years.

Uh, so we need to figure out tomorrow's population and where tomorrow's demand is going to be whenever we build these stations.

Um, so it is a real challenge to do that.

And I I don't know the the best way to project exactly where it's going to be is going to be guess either way, but we will do our best to try to figure out the the proper locations.

And I just to see if I feel like I heard this in there is it sounds like how we zone or proactive potentially and rezoning will help you to indicate better what that disbursement might be for the services that will be needed.

Uh we talked about the rebotentially of the entire city as we look at looking at our zones being redoing.

Yeah, if we redid the zones across the city, that would help us to then be able to predict better where our population would fall to plan for your services without Chief Garden.

That is a hundred percent accurate.

If uh if we had a more rigid uh zoning or more rigid plan, um, yes, we absolutely would be able to um, you know, better predict where we would need fire stations.

And then on the modern training facility, um, I think you told us that other agencies use that facility as well.

How does that work whenever I know we value um being neighborly we value making sure that everyone has great training across the region because we support each other.

What does that look like with our MOU with other agencies that come or is there kind of some kind of cost share that happens with the use of our training facility?

Well as far as all of the consumables um each department is responsible for uh providing money uh to help cover all of the consumables um as far as the training yes I mean right now we're training uh you know 34 people in our academy and only four of them are uh are ours um however as i've I've talked about many times uh you know the the building that you're setting in there um if it was on fire it would require 43 people and we only have 34 people uh on staff at any given time so we are heavily dependent upon uh these other departments to come in and work with us and we don't want the you know the first time that they meet each other to be at that fire whenever that building's on fire uh so it's very important that we uh we train them and we work together I mean as it is right now we could pluck a captain from Rogers and put them on one of our fire apparatus and they function as a team because they've been training now because we've been doing this for a long time they've been training together from the day that they get hired and you know all the way throughout their career.

So it's it's very important that uh they that they work together.

Now as far as cost share um the uh the training hours so all of the time that we spend training those people um it takes a lot of people to uh to to do for instance a burn uh it takes a lot of people to uh facilitate that and to do that these other departments they come in and they help us do that they help us come in they they fulfill these roles all these important roles that it takes uh to train these people well all of those roles would have to be fulfilled even if it was just our people so if we was only training our four people we would still have to have all of these positions filled and it would just be near impossible to do on our own uh with working together like this we we're able to do that and then lastly I will I will also point out that we do send our people to the other departments and then we go to their their training center uh center and help them train so thank you chief thank you thank you chief i don't think we have any more questions in the room for you so I appreciate you calling in even when you were away thank you okay have a good evening by um so that was item C2 um we have um Gordon here we also have Kevin from Stevens we have Steven um to answer general questions if you have about Devon if not I will move on to um reading C3 is up to all of you three okay I'll move on to see it C3.

Thank you Gordon thank you yes um item C3 is vacation 2025-21 on East Joyce Boulevard is an ordinance to approve VAC 25-21 for property located at 1923 West Joyce Boulevard at Ward 3 to vacate 22 acres of general utility reason.

Jonathan I it sorry um for graphic we were not at a meeting uh Jonathan is available to answer questions if you have them um on this vacation and it doesn't look like we do so I will read C4 um which is a rezone and an appeal of a planning permission denial it's an ordinance to rezone the property described in RZN 2025-33 for approximately 0.33 acres located at 922 east Rockwood Trail also in ward three rezoning from RSS4 residential single family four units per acre to NC neighborhood conservation and Jonathan is also here and speak about that.

Do you have questions around this property is in Superfayville it's about a thousand feet east of where Mission Boulevard and Rockwood Trail hit as you go up Rockwood Trail that hill there if you can imagine it's on the north side of the street at the northwest corner of Rockwood and Jackson the property is about a third of an acre uh it's fully within the Hillside Hilltop Overlay district and developed with a single family home.

And that is why it's before you all as an appeal on behalf of the applicant petitioning you to reconsider the planning commission's denial.

I'm happy to answer any questions.

What are they trying to be sent to again?

NC neighborhood conservation.

Okay, there you go.

Which the what is the what are they trying to gain from that?

Uh ultimately it looks like the difference between redeveloping the lot today, which because of the HHOD standards could be subdivided one time to build two houses on the lot uh under NC from our evaluation of the property size, they could split it and create three lots and fill three houses.

So it's the distinction between two and three houses ultimately.

And this is Rockwood Trail going up the hill from mission.

That's correct on the north side.

Okay.

And the letter the applicant stated something about a conceptual site plan.

Is that something that they submitted out?

That's the inner topic.

Uh I don't believe so.

Uh I think if if you could recall um feedback that we've offered in the past, generally we don't encourage those to be offered because ultimately a property could be rezoned and they could develop it however they want, regardless of that.

Um that can muddy the waters, if you will.

But I'll yeah, I don't uh yeah, I don't know if they actually provided it or not.

I saw that in the letter as well.

Is this one if it gets determined if it gets denied at planning commission where three council members have to back and appeal to the council?

It's not just the afternoon has right to appeal.

That's great.

Yeah, it's it's additional use permits are the ones they require three supporting council members.

And are there any um special or specific kit in terms of voting to overturn since it is an appeal?

It's still a simple majority.

Okay, let's do those.

Oh, this one it's a single family house that believe it's kind of runs parallel with Rockwood.

Yeah, the planning commission report and um maybe I missed it.

I don't take the hillside hilltop portion.

Um it's it's in it all.

I'll find it next week, but um if it's not, could you provide the if you are able to open up?

I think it's it'll either show as uh it's in the planning commission staff report for certain.

It's I think the fifth or sixth to last page, it's in the close-up map.

And it's kind of it might be easy to miss because almost the entirety of this area is within the hillside hilltop overlay distance.

So that hatching you see is um, you know, that area right there, actually, friends that live on Binson.

And so um, I'm often turning left to go back out to Mission.

Uh that's pretty tight right in there.

Uh, could we have any kind of accident report or anything like that?

Um because it's just so hard to see.

Um, especially at Vincent.

Like so on Rockwood and in the immediate vicinity.

Right, kind of in the um that would be helpful.

I guess Jackson comes in right there.

So that would be that would be helpful to have that information.

Certainly.

What about the um you know we can't been told there's there's mobilities that run out of Rockwood Trail that cannot be replaced without really great difficulty, great expense because I guess it's in Runch out of the off the road, it's real close together, and we don't have to use that backs instead of how does this figure in with the problems on Rockwood Trail that we're already?

Don't know if I have an answer in the moment in that regard.

Is it for my benefit?

Is what you're asking.

If they rezone the property, would that make those difficulties greater?

It seems to me it would make it greater, but I'm not positive on the end, of course.

Okay, nothing's been done, so it's kind of hard to explain the picture.

But I understand the question.

I'll get with uh our utility department because one of one of the bigger distinctions between these zoning districts, other than the density difference, which NC allows 10 units breaker and RSF4 allows for, is that NC has a build-to-zone as opposed to a setback, which isn't meant to encourage more urbanity houses closer to streets.

I think perhaps to your point, it may result in a house that's closer to the street where it may impact the ability to replace some of those utilities.

So let me uh I'll I'll try to have a more informed and for response or information for you Tuesday.

Thank you, John.

Thank you.

And we had a proposed agenda addition, but we already took care of it earlier.

And so uh Kurt Maxon, do you know what you need to know from support of the though for the changes today?

Okay, great.

So Pete, we have announcements.

Just like we have a currency or committee on a separate Zoom link immediately after that in this room.