Okay, since we're all here, we're gonna go ahead and call the meeting to order.

Dr.

Roll Call, Danny Baker?

Errol Clark here.

Travis Cooper.

Jeff Dingman.

Here.

Tim Hearn.

Here.

Steve Hope.

Here.

Doug Kinslow.

Obi Runyan.

President.

Tom Sizemore.

Okay.

Moving to the approval of the 20 December 16th, 2025 minutes.

Motion for approval.

Who got?

And then Baker's second.

All right.

All in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed?

Alright.

You go to the last page of your agenda package, the financial report.

This is first month of the year.

Everything is looking good on right on track.

The main accounts that you see with uh the in the red, those are the red progress bar.

These are budgeted items that has already paid.

First one is the 75,000 to Western Arkansas Planning and Development for the yearly fees.

We paid the Pro Phoenix dues, which is 188, 492.

And then I have got an encumbrance to Motorola for 42,688.

These are for the service agreement for Sebastian County Dispatch Radios.

One thing of note is that it was a it's a 5% increase from 2025.

So the Motorola agreement is $2100 over budget that I had for this year.

Next uh is we are going to be moving forward with the budgeted Everbridge purchase in a couple of weeks.

We've been working with Sebastian County Emergency Management in the City of Fort Smith, and this is going to replace Hyper Reach.

Uh and once we get everything going and set up, we're going to do the data transfer, and then we will bring in all of the stakeholders that have the access to the current Hydra Reach and give them the access to the Everbridge in training.

I'm not sure how that's long that's going to be, but I need to get the agreement signed, which I'll be taking it to the board here pretty soon.

Once that gets going, we'll get the kickoff meeting and get that up and running.

So that is the financial report.

Anybody have any questions?

Motion to approve.

I'll make that motion.

Approved.

Okay.

Legislature.

All in favor.

Aye.

Any opposed.

Alright.

So for the update of the consolidation, we are on track.

It has been a very busy two months since last we met working on the consolidation.

We put the consolidation date to be July the first.

However, as I'm taking a look at uh the strategy and everything moving into it, I y'all are all well aware the July 4th holiday is one of the busiest uh holidays that we deal with.

So with your permission, I would like to move the date for consolidation to Monday, July 6th.

It's the beginning of a pay period.

It's the that's the week, it's the the week immediately after the 4th of July holiday.

It sets it instead of the first, just move it to the six.

It's a nice even um bit.

Are we good with that?

Very long people.

Okay.

So what do we have in progress?

The just got the uh the main portion of the CAD, the geo verification.

We just got that done set to Pro Phoenix.

We're gonna be uploading that pretty soon.

Um I've met with uh City IT and County IT, and we're working on the connections right now.

We should here in the next couple of weeks start being able to establish the connection between Sebastian County and the server.

I can install the CAD clients and the county dispatch, and we can start getting them over.

Uh one of the uh we're now I think two or three weeks into the uh exchange program.

Two weeks?

Two where the Sebastian County dispatchers come to Fort Smith, Fort Smith comes to Sebastian County, and uh Sebastian County is whenever they're in Fort Smith, we've got the logins to Pro Phoenix, they were able to log in and they're they're picking it up already and and then they're messing around and they're they're doing really really well with it.

So what we're waiting on is the connection so we can start installing the clients.

Um I've gotten several of the spreadsheets that I need to start implementing in two weeks, February the 17th through the 19th, we'll have some system administrator training on Pro Phoenix and when we'll that's when we'll start building this out in earnest.

Probably in March is when we'll do the administrator training for the jail portion of the software.

I haven't set a date yet.

Joe Beth, and I think is looking for some available dates for that.

My goal for this is to be up and running with Sebastian County on the CAD by June the 1st.

That allows the dispatchers time to get used to Pro Phoenix in an environment that they're used to, so that come July 6th, they'll just basically log in at the police department other than that.

We are working on an active directory.

Steve Demitt has come up with a good plan as far as getting secure access.

If you've got an active directory at your agency already, Sebastian County, Fort Smith, Barling, that's fine.

But for the uh the smaller agencies and the rural fire districts that may not have that, we will be issuing the uh secure login credentials for them to be able to use the software.

There is a major update to ProPhoenix that's likely going to happen in about April of 2026.

Uh this major upgrade does away with the VPN connection.

It's a more secure FIPS connection, and City IT has been on top of this, and we're we're working to get that up and running as soon as we can.

The uh dispatch projects that we've had, we're working on the call type disposition analysis.

I've got several of them working together, uh, collaborating between the two dispatch centers to find out best ways for protocols run assignments and how to best handle that when we get to it.

So the next thing is going to be the co-location, and this is where I've been ensuring that all of the systems that Sebastian County has is going to be available at Fort Smith when they move in July.

Namely the paging system, uh the tornado siren sounding system, and I'm working with Motorola with that.

Uh I've got an open proposal with Motorola on moving radios, uh, but we are not going to move radios until after we consolidate.

Okay.

That way we get everybody over here.

We'll run lean.

We've got six radios in the dispatch, we'll be able to handle all the channels.

Uh ABC is probably going to come and do a little reprogramming in Fort Smith so that we've got everybody set in a template that we need.

Will has sent a new uh template that we're going to be working on in the next couple weeks to put us all in the same uh AWINS template.

911 lines, not a problem.

I called 91, I called ATT.

All they do all they'll do is they'll sit in their little nest somewhere and type in the computer and point your 911 lines to Fort Smith.

Um and then uh the radios would be fine, 911's fine.

The um the call logger.

I've already talked to sheriff about their call logger.

I've talked to the Fort Smith police about their call logger, so we can make sure we get what radio channels we need recorded and what phone lines we get recorded.

I've also got a meeting between ATT and Cox to better streamline our phone system in dispatch.

I hasn't set that meeting yet.

Right now we have real short, we've got uh the ATT call handling system, and then we've got the City of Fort Smith desk phone.

So I've got eight desk phones, eight ATT positions, and when somebody calls a non-emergency or 911 line, all 16 light up.

And so I'm gonna kind of work to pare that down so it's not as noisy in there.

Uh we've got to get um network.

The other issue that we've got is going through and make sure the computers are up to date, they're going to handle the software that we need to handle that.

We're going to do some monitor changing around.

Uh basically getting the place ready for consolidation in July.

So to that point, the funds that we have with the state of Arkansas, that 400,000 for consolidation expenses.

Um I'm using that for, I'm going to use it for chairs.

We've got to get new chairs.

I'm going to use it for Motorola if they play nice.

I'm going to use it for any network upgrades that we might need.

And I'm going to use it for voice products if we have to, if we have to reconfigure our call recorder.

Um, after talking with Fort Smith, I think we can pare some of it down to handle the radios.

We just got to reconfigure it, so there's going to be some money in there.

What I'm asking for you is in order for us to as we go to just get some thoughts or authorization from this board to spend no more than that 400,000, but to move forward with those items.

I don't know what that cost is, but I'm keeping it all under four hundred thousand.

And so the priorities are going to be everything that I've just mentioned, the chairs, the net worth, uh, the voice products and the Motorola.

I've had uh Motorola um come and look at this, I've explained to them what I'm wanting, what we need to move and how we're going to cut the costs so that it it doesn't go over that four hundred dollars or four hundred thousand dollars, and what I'm asking is this rather than coming together and asking you for each and every purchase, notifying you of the purchase, but then you have the understanding that I will not go over that four hundred thousand dollars.

Just discussion.

Is it earmarked for anything else right now?

No.

It's just it's consolidation expenses, and what'll happen is I get the invoice, pay it, I send it to the state, and the nine one one board approves it, and then they send us a check right back.

I would only comment that if and I know you're gonna have expenses, some limited expenses associated with staying where you are temporarily, that um if at all possible, any expenses that come out of that consolidation fund are tied to the consolidation process and not anything that um any infrastructure of the police department or that's correct.

This will be.

Right.

With a consolidated idea is the the funds that we use for this, whatever hardware or anything that we get with these funds when we move, it comes with us.

That would be the only caveat that I want to throw out there.

Okay.

So will you be bringing bringing what you want to buy or purchase or whatever to this board?

Well, and that's what I'm wanting to know.

It's just the blanket 400,000.

I'm gonna keep it under 400,000, but I've told you it's it's it's only going to be for consolidation chairs, network related hardware, voice recording, and the radio retrofit.

That's it.

And that wasn't included in the budget that was that was not, no, because I once we moved into the um I knew I was going to use that consolidation expense for that, and without knowing anything, I didn't I didn't include that in the budget because it's it's subject to us presenting it to the state and then they reimbursing it.

Do you have any idea if we got any bits on any of that yet?

No.

What are you looking to make that start making those replacements?

As soon as I can, I want to be up and running by May.

Because that gives us two months to test, make sure something's not prepared to you know, say in the February meeting to have at least to have a grip on the price at the end of the day.

Well, we'd say 400,000, that's sound like a lot of money to me.

Well, and that's the reason I said that is because that is the amount the state has set aside for us.

Right.

And that I did not I would not go over that amount because essentially this this has been earmarked for us.

It's an earmarked funds, and that I wanted to be able to use that funds for that consolidation and be able to show y'all this is what I used up to 400,000 and not over.

Okay.

Um so I mean it's it's it's whatever you would like to do.

Now, I also when you talked about you know the February meeting, we're talking about uh the agreement is talk about at least quarterly.

Uh well, I'm I'm heavy duty into this.

Uh you notice this agenda packet was really kind of thin.

Um I'm moving towards July.

That's my focus.

CAD implementation, co-location expenses and and logistics, and the culture and co-location consolidation of the two uh the two entities into one.

And I'm building on that with that end game of July.

That said, unless y'all want to do that, I don't see any need to come back every month.

I think we can do it quarterly and come back in April, which is another reason why, you know, if if we need to, you know, some sort of like notification, like this is what I'm gonna do for the chairs.

Okay, this is what I this this is the amount that I'm going because you know it's it's all within that 400,000, I guess.

Is there anything else that that potentially could be needed for?

Possibly, but those are my priorities.

Those are what I need to get Fort Smith to be able to do Sebastian County dispatching.

I have a question for the probably the two in the room over court A with not on one state uh board.

Is there a deadline once we become consolidators or a timeline at all when we have to have that spot?

Oh it's no, I mean we didn't have to hold some of the C what expenses are the maximum is 400,000.

It's 200,000 per participating agency.

So I mean 200,000 special county 200,000 Fort Smith or consolidating.

And it has to, I mean you have to present your um request to the state for for reimbursement, and then the 901 board decides whether it's reimbursed or not.

Um I would say that I wouldn't piecemeal it.

I mean I wouldn't wait until we have an accurate amount that you know that's why it's all that way.

Yeah, this one check is basically the way CJ explained it is you give me five receipts, that total 400,000, and we send it.

I think everybody would probably be more comfortable if that was incorporated into our budget at some point.

I mean that has to we have to amend the budget to show you know whatever the amount is 200,000, 400,000 that we've spent on this project, even if it is reimbursed.

Um I believe it will be it will show up on the budget if we start working on next year's because we'll see that the expense plus we'll see the revenue as long as we get it right, because I plan on getting it done before July.

So we will see that expensive revenue in the actual copy when we start looking at next year's budget.

So as far as that goes, I mean, whatever expenses you have, you'll use dollars that are in your current budget to make the expense.

So we'll show an offsetting revenue when we get that back, and I mean we'll offset and the items that you will have you'll have worked within your budget to make the initial purchases when we get the reimbursement back, then we we can at that point just determined whether we want to amend the budget to include that 400,000 to be on top of what was already approved for expenditure or not.

But I I think this board needs to approve not just a blanket, but some kind of a here's a 400,000 dollar budget.

How are you gonna spend that?

Okay.

I I I have problems just saying here's 400,000 and I don't spend it.

Okay.

Huh?

I don't know how much they are because we buy I'm buying 10.

Oh, 10.

Yes, that's $20,000 for that.

I mean, I don't think we need to convene to do it because we had handled by for what we have.

I I was one that was actually questioning you know what do we need to meet every month because I know in years past we didn't do that, and obviously we've had a lot going on, but uh I think I think we probably are sort of doing it, so I mean we probably do need to I can't do an approval by email like to, but I don't know if I don't know it.

Anyway, I'd be more comfortable if I saw the 400,000 dollars how it's proposed to be spent for each category of chairs, whatever.

Uh I just it troubles me to well I think this way.

Um I've dealing with Motorola, I've told them don't don't go over 200,000.

Um so 50% of that is that motorola.

It'll be 2000.

It'll be 2001.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you know, and county said no.

So five million on guess what it came in right with five million.

And let me let me tell you this.

I was at the 911 board meeting in December.

And um the was it Maw Mel, North Little Rock?

They were having and they said, and we were talking afterwards, and I told them, you know, they said, well, how many square feet have you gotten?

How many of this?

So we're talking about it.

And he said, Yeah, well, we're moving, we got to move some Motorola equipment over across the street.

I said, Cool, how much they're gonna charge it?

He said 1.5.

Oh no, we got a model again.

No.

So I've made it very clear.

And then the I mean the chairs, how much did 10 chairs?

What are they?

About 1800 piece.

Okay.

Um the um the network equipment, um, it's basically re uh monitors, replacing possibly some desktops.

I don't know about the call logging stuff.

I don't know what the costs are going to be at this point.

Maybe also let me ask.

I mean, let me ask if all of those things are built into the budget that you've got that's approved.

All of those things fit into some of those line items in terms of are doing at all.

No.

What I did for the budget was simply the operating and not any of consolidation expense to it because I was only going to use that 400,000.

Okay.

Four weeks is enough time, or if it has to be six weeks, and then everybody can see quotes maybe, and then after that we go to quarterly meetings.

Frankly, we wouldn't have to wait six months.

I mean, if you can get the whatever time compiled, then we can meet to the purpose of approving that.

If a month isn't enough, I know you've got to get going on it, but what if we did March?

Would that be okay?

That gives me because I don't know what the time and it's I get a quote from Overola.

I'm gonna have you know, I'm gonna have to scream and haggle the move and all this other stuff.

If we if we want to wait and do and meet in March, we'll wait for you to call me and then okay.

Well then there you go.

Let me get that together and get the the prices and everything, and then I will get probably not the first week.

Some of us are gonna be busy.

Is there something going on in the evening?

Absolutely.

Second week?

We're even third week.

Whenever you're ready.

Because I also know that the first week is busy and the second week is just decompressing.

So third or fourth week of March, I think we'll be able to do that.

Whatever leaves you enough time, too, to get it really done.

No, that's fine.

And that's and that and that does give me a little bit of time to get it put together and get ready.

You know, because I think even if we do we get this board approval in March, get it before the city for the ones that need it, uh, which I would only think is Motorola.

They're motorola, the plan that we're looking at, they're not doing any um well take that back because they got to do some free work.

March it's because once they approve it and we get forward, they're gonna come in and have to start running some lines and updating some stuff.

But I think we can get that by July.

I think that was the timeline.

The real moving of equipment isn't gonna happen until after that.

That's all that we're gonna be moving some equipment from across the street to kind of meld it and all that.

So we I said let's let's wait for backwards in the same building and operate.

We'll operate lean, I think we'll be okay.

Because they're saying it'll only take two weeks to finish.

No, I'm gonna have a question about the phone lines.

So on the phone lines uh from the sheriff's office.

Sure.

So the 1051 number is used predominantly around accounting, and also the smaller municipalities.

Yep number.

And so uh what's happening to that number and is that one will be incorporated into consolidation for sure.

I believe it shouldn't be a problem because all that they'll do is take that 1051 number and roll it over to the non-emergency here.

So if you dial 1051 or you dial 5100, it's going to the same room.

That's I hadn't got to that point yet, but that's one of the things that I'm looking at.

Because I don't want y'all to have to go back in and re-record your phone tree.

You know, uh when when we installed the Cox phones, I could do that with ours.

Because when I built the the phone tree when we went to our not new system, you build the phone tree and you just you just tell the system point it to there, and that's that's it's as easy as that.

So James, you got who's the carrier for that number you're uh concerned about is it 18 years ago?

They're all ATT lines, aren't they?

Dobson.

As long as you're not changing carriers, they should be able to forward those over.

If you're talking about changing a number block from one owner to another, it's a huge thing.

So just a heads up as long as Dobson the thumbs up, it should be able to just move that block and have it land wherever you want.

Okay.

Do you have a contact with Dobson?

Chair, this Phil Beth.

Let's go ahead and get that moving then.

Okay.

Uh let's see.

So everything else is just you know the task getting ready to that point.

Um so unless you got any other questions, we'll move on to the next agenda item.

The only other thing I have is about the CAD itself.

Is there going to be a template or anything that you would want to receive from agencies that are joining Pro Phoenix?

Yes.

On how they need to share with the police.

Yes, I've met as much as possible.

I've been meeting with the police and fire chiefs to get that.

Central City Police has sent theirs in.

The backup police has sent theirs in.

Harling is working on theirs.

I got to get with Greenwood.

Barling Fire has sent me his.

What I need from you is in the coming weeks.

Preferably before or immediately after Sysadmin training, we need to get with all the rural folks, me and you, we sit down and start working out the units and personnel that work to that aspect of it.

Is with the rural agencies, we are going to get two licenses per district.

Okay.

Five licenses per district.

And so then we'll need to get those set up.

Once the system admin training is done, you guys will really be able to ramp that up.

So I still I need to come talk to Matt and start working on that.

I've got to get an API for borrowing going.

That me and Tom talked about.

So this is just the process we're rolling through.

I want to get everything set up and connected as soon as I can so we can start testing.

Yeah.

So also related to consolidation.

Yes, sir.

I know you're going to at some time want to know who wants to come over to the county from the city.

From the county to the city, and we need to make sure the employees, Joe Beth, and your group knows salaries, benefits, all the information you, your staff would need to know to make that decision with enough time.

And they've been working on that.

I sort of say they're talking to the to our going back and forth.

Yeah, what we did is Eric Garner, our HR director contact your HR director.

Becky.

Becky.

And they got together and they went over and they sent me a bunch of information.

And I actually built a web page, HTML file that compared them apples to apples.

And went to what, you know, well, this is what will happen, and this is how this works, and we work to where if their decision is to come to the city of Fort Smith, we're going to do a July 6th.

We have the pay periods the 5th.

That Sunday, that's going to be their first day.

Okay.

So between now and maybe mid-March, we'll need to know, okay, do you want to become a Fort Smith employee or not?

And then they will do the hire then.

Okay.

If they are, well, we don't really know yet, that's fine.

It's just we won't do another hire until January 1st.

This was a request that Eric had made to kind of make things a little easier on part on the part of insurance.

But what they did do is they want to make sure that insurance coverage from the sheriffs to Fort Smith is handled.

So if they do decide to become a Fort Smith employee the first day they're covered.

Okay, we wanted to make sure that we did that.

Their date of seniority, their date of hire with you, it'll be the same with the city.

Okay.

So they're going to keep their seniority date.

They're going to keep all of that if they decide to come over to uh on July 1st.

Okay.

We met first part of December.

I went and had a conversation, and we've been we've been discussing with the Sebastian County folks about what they want to do, and they've been hitting me with questions and West Middles.

I met with Janita yesterday, and we we went back and forth in Cheyenne and all of them.

Um working through this, and they've got every bit of information that they have to make that decision.

I should know maybe by April on that first wave, and then I need to know before September on the second wave.

Um so we can start working on that part of the budget.

To that point, the current personnel costs for your dispatchers now is an expense in this budget.

Do you want to do a quarterly invoice for that?

I mean, that's a judge question.

That's fine.

Okay.

Whatever's easiest.

Okay.

So that way we do that we'll do the quarterly reimbursement, and then their July, and then the ones in that third and fourth quarter, uh, we can we will work with them and whatnot.

So ultimately, what they they've been told, this is what happens if they come over to the city employees.

You are certainly welcome to be a Sebastian County employee, but you will work for me.

Um we're working on getting them access, cross back and forth.

It's we're we're working on it.

So basically you're letting them put their toe in the water July 1.

They can still stay a county employee, and have to wait until January 1 if they decide they do want to work.

I know I know of several of them.

How many would you think, Joe?

I'd say six or eight.

Six or eight have already told me they're wanting to come over.

When I've been talking to them.

Okay.

Um in the agreement, it said something about Fort Smith has to hire them or vent them or whatever.

Yes.

So that's what they'll do is they'll fill in the application, just like anything else, it's a position.

Okay.

We'll do the background check because that's that's CGS.

Background check, arrest check, do a drug test.

So just make sure our employees know.

Yes.

That they're in or out.

That's not you know, with enough notice or whatever.

So I should have a while.

I'll work on getting that hard for you by April.

Yeah.

So we can prepare for the question.

That's what we say.

Me and Sheriff sat down and we talked about how all that's going to work.

So what we'll do is in July, there will be one supervisor position and 11 telecommunicator positions that'll merge with us, and that'll bring us up to 28 telecommunicators and six supervisors after July 6th.

Are the supervisors working 60s?

Yes, absolutely.

Oh, yes.

Yep, they cover the radio.

I've got them 24-7.

I'm just worried about payroll.

I don't know.

I know I understand.

And the looking at what we have to have is I've been working on the task analysis and looking, you know, the net available hours.

It's like 1688.

Uh it's about basically to cover the six radio channels that I'm talking about 24-7 with with a supervisor.

24-7, it's 33 FTEs, and now we're right there.

Thank you.

We're short a couple, but we'll we'll do what we can.

So y'all good, Joe Beth?

Okay.

Thank you.

All right.

Anything else?

Okay.

So the next part is the discussion of the interlocal agreement.

Um Judge Holtz had asked me to discuss this on this meeting.

And it's particularly any type of any changes that we have that we would like to recommend.

Uh studying upon this, looking at this, the agreement is between the city of Fort Smith and Sebastian County, who up until that point provided dispatch 911 services.

Those are the two ones.

And the agreement was between Sebastian County and the City of Fort Smith.

The agreement says that any changes to this obviously would have to be taken before the board of directors and the quorum court to make any changes to that.

Now, obviously, this board can uh suggest changes to it, and then we would take it to the board of directors and the quorum court.

Okay.

So some of the changes uh that was um I'm looking at this is the the procurement and the purchasing, you know.

If this board's approved, is it approves the purchase, you know, and then I gotta go and do the same thing again with the city of Fort Smith board, and then the same thing again with the Quarum Court.

Or is it the the board of the 911 board approves the budget?

I'm able to operate within that budget and go to the city of Fort Smith, or if you know all of that logistics, and and rather than change the agreement with that, maybe a set of bylaws.

I've been working on trying to get bylaws for the board that sets out those procedures.

And I'm still working on that, but that's one thing that I will bring to you guys for the at the next meeting is a set of bylaws that we can kind of tweak.

The second thing is the section 6.3 uh about the payment.

Okay.

The agreement says the 69.7 and the 30.3.

69.7 for the city of Fort Smith, 30.3% in Sebastian County.

However, Sebastian County has the option of spreading that the that funds out to the other municipalities at the discretion of the judge.

Okay.

I understand that you want to do that, however, I don't know that that changing the interlocal agreement to include the structure of the municipalities within it is going to be difficult.

It's going to be that then that agreement has to go before every single one.

And then that agreement is with a bunch of other ones.

Okay.

Up until this point, the PSAP has only been two entities, and they merge to one.

I think that needs to remain that way.

But this board is here to set that policy, it's here to change that before we take it to them.

So my opinion, and uh if you have any questions or suggestions to that, this is the discussion.

So without an agreement with every other entity, we don't have a right to charge them anything.

Okay.

Or provide services or any of that stuff.

Yeah.

So how do we agree not have an agreement?

Well, the agreement is between Sebastian County and Cinquinsmen.

Okay.

And in the agreement, it says that if you want to spread that, share that load that it would be with a separate determinative agreement between you and the cities.

Why would we do that?

I I don't understand why this board doesn't have an agreement with Greenwood and Lovaca and everyone.

Or is that not is that not legally possible?

Is this board able to have that interlocal agreement?

Well, see, what I looked at it is the interlocal agreement creates this board.

And that the interlocal the board cannot change the agreement because it is between the two entities.

So any change with that has to be made between the two entities, not this board.

Now, the board can suggest the changes to take to the city and the quorum board to make a change to the agreement.

Which could include provision for this board to be able to enter into agreements for with the smaller cities.

Well, and that's I mean, and that's without them being able to do that.

Well, like what you said earlier that we don't charge us at all.

But the agreement is that the payment would then come between the city and the county.

And then the county wanted to split that up, it was up to that.

I got you.

I have to still promise.

So do we need to, you know, if it and you write, you want to wait and we can table this until March, or if there's any discussion or guidance, let me know.

I think you're gonna have to address it somewhere on the road.

I mean, I see what you're saying.

Probably need to get the board out of the local agreement and have it established for it.

So the board set policy to send back to the next, you know, to the city administrator and the city board, whatever.

You know, get that out of there.

The problem with it for if you ever want to remember is this board didn't exist, but it never met.

I mean, if we met once a year, that was a whole lot.

You know, and uh so that's why we're in the shape brand is because you can't roll by away.

So I would think I would think we'd want this board approving your the budget and approving your purchases and not going to the corn court and see the directors every time you wanted to buy something of significance.

It's a board decision.

They approve the budget and all the things.

Because there are laws and ordinances of that require a certain amount to be the policy.

So the board remained for the city.

We can't.

I mean, this board can't encumber the city or the county to without without approving by the elected body.

That's kind of that's that gray area that I'm wanting to shore up, you know.

We could have it where this board approves that budget, but because it is a a city of Fort Smith function, I still am beholden to the purchasing requirements for the city, so then I still have to city.

That's good.

That's your requirements.

You got to I mean that's taxpayers' money.

Okay.

I'm just not ready to make any moves right now.

But that's my decision.

That'd give us some email volume or sure there might be.

And that's the thing is I can send I can send copies of the bylaws and tweak and tell me what you want.

So we've had to figure out how to provide and and and require funding for the services that are being provided by the consolidated center.

So yeah, I mean I'm sure there are plenty of other agencies, jurisdictions we can look at to see how they and I can tell you it's going to be based on population.

But is that what you're seeing around the state?

I know the sheriff's banking.

Okay.

Because you know you've got the airport commission.

They approve that budget.

But they still have to come to the city of Fort Smith through the purchases.

No, they just have to use the same set of rules that we can that they can invest right.

So in that instance, then would we if in the bylaws I have these same purchasing rules as the city, would that suffice?

Talk to Coby, maybe we've got some things to work at.

Yeah.

I will start working on that.

So other than that, unless you guys have any other questions, discussions, anything for the board.

That's all that I have on the agenda.

Motion to adjourn.

Well, before we do that, we're going to do a March meeting.

Right.

Okay.

At that meeting, we'll do the by we'll have some bylaws maybe we can look at between here and there.

I'll send it and y'all can kind of tweak on it.

Uh I should have the costs available for the consolidation expenses for that.

What else do we need?

Anything else?

That you would like finance report.

Is there anything on that?

Is that sufficient?

Is there anything else you want to see on that besides that?

Do you need a set number of employees?

Was that the timeline that you need to do a set number of employees?

Yeah, but I don't know.

We need to have that the board.

That's be just between these guys.

Okay.

Alright.

Then yes, motion to adjourn.

Thank you.

I think you already did.

Yeah.

Okay, made the motion.

Yeah, right.

Anybody who sits on there's almost the same.

Thank you, guys.

See you all in March.

That'd be no service.