All right, well, let's call to order the public works committee of March 10th at 4 p.m.

We'll start with the pledge.

And to the Republic for Nation.

Liberty and Justice.

And feel free to take your coat off because we've got the sauna on inside this room today.

So our first agenda item is to start with a review of the housing work plan.

And Claire, can we pull that up?

It has taken me, us a while to get our first draft together because, as you know, there's a lot of layers to this onion.

So we're working our way through it, and I would ask that you view the document as a work in progress.

This is what we think we're doing as of today, and we may have to amend it as we delve into the topic.

And so our plan from a macro standpoint, and it's divided into phases, and I encourage you to read those phases, but we'll start with a policy discussion, and the policy discussion will involve by the way, which will start today with thanks to my colleagues.

So I all that is on the table for discussion as we as it relates to that.

And there'll be similar uh spirited conversations about rental licensing and other aspects of these programs.

But we're going to start with that, and then we'll move in and talk about specific types of housing and the barriers that we're experiencing as it relates to having that housing built.

And so it's a heavier lift, again, as everybody here is aware, uh, as the uh AMI percents go down.

So um so just to let you know that the task ahead from a from a uh a work plan.

And again, as we get into it, I we can expect to have amendments and and changes to that.

So but that's that's my tee up, and I'll ask for my colleagues to offer comments.

So Councilmember Hempel Randy.

Well, one of the things that has been on my mind is to keep in our minds the long-term feasibility of whatever it is that we come up with.

So one of the challenges in housing, as you all know, is housing for homeowners is one of their biggest assets.

And so, in order that for that to be an asset, it has to outpace inflation, whereas wages are not necessarily keeping up with inflation.

And so we're gonna have a larger and larger gap between incomes and housing over time, unless we have uh spectacular crash, which I don't know.

So as we're thinking through housing plans, um I would like to think about the immediate need because it's it's urgent for a lot of families, but also be thinking about the long-term need, how this gap is going to get bigger and bigger unless there's some dramatic, like I said, some dramatic market corrections.

Um there are people who know a lot more about that than I do.

Uh so I don't I don't know where else to begin with.

Um that's with our plan here.

Thank you.

Councilmember Shockerford.

Thank you, uh Chairman Brown, um, Councilmember Ronnie uh Hemple Rani, my apologies.

Um of course, no, you know, Councilmember Brown, we've had some extensive conversations around these, so um I'm um glad that we have some uh preliminary timelines.

Of course, they're fluid because of um our conversations also in terms of our policy initiatives also uh in terms of um what happens with the with the market as well and also crises are in it, but I think this is this is a good plan for us, and it also makes the um public and also our advocates um aware of where we are in these respective um categories, and so they can participate and of course not only participate but be a big part of what we're trying to do.

It's it's interesting because uh I don't know if government does a great job of building houses, one, two of also maintaining them.

So it's important that we have our advocates in those um organizations and entities who who do this for for a living or do this in terms of this is what they do.

I think it's so important.

One of the things I always say, particularly from a government perspective, is government should not try to do everything.

Um but what it can do, it can lead.

So what we can do is we can provide the leadership support.

Also we have access to resources that some of our uh partners may not have, and so I think it's important for us as we talk about particularly from a financial aspect and also the resource we have through other means and other channels that is important that we use this in partnerships and also use these uh wisely because we know particularly in this time frame that resources um may be scarce, unfortunately.

So it's important that we get the most bang for particularly for our buck a term would be in terms particularly from our financial resources.

I think it's so important in this time frame that we really engage with our partners and really be supportive of the work that they're trying to do.

Great, thank you.

Uh and I would invite again anybody who is watching this after the fact uh if you have a question, a comment, or a concern about the work plan to please let council know because we can certainly incorporate those ideas and suggestions and feedback in the document as we go forward.

With that being said, is there anybody from the public today who would like to comment on the work plan?

All right.

Well, thank you very much.

Let's move on to our second agenda item.

Uh and that is an overview of moderately priced dwelling units, rental licensing, and payment in lieu of taxes programs.

And I appreciate the health and excuse me, the health and housing team being with us today.

Yes, good afternoon.

Uh Stuart Campbell, I'm the director of the Department of Housing and Human Services.

And let me apologize in advance.

I'm gonna let Jody do most of the talking.

I've got uh throat issues.

I don't know if it's allergies or cold or what.

Um but we're uh delighted to be able to talk about these three programs.

I think they are important programs that will help us uh facilitate and um lead as Councilman Shackleford has said.

And he's right, I don't think government should be in the role of building, but facilitating, incentivizing, leading, those are the types of things uh that we can do, and these programs I think really support us in doing that.

So I'm gonna turn it over to introduce yourself.

Good afternoon.