0:00Hi everyone, right now it's 9 15, which is the traditional start time of this meeting.
0:04I am waiting on two of my colleagues to have quorum.
0:08So those who are watching, I just want to come online and share that message.
0:12And um we'll give it a couple of minutes.
0:15I think Commissioner Belchak is is almost here, and then um if not, we'll make a determination.
0:40Good morning, everyone.
0:43Our first item is a resolution approving a fireworks discharge permit for image engineering special effects for an indoor special effects at the Van Andal Arena in conjunction with Matt Reif Stay Golden Tour on November 9th, 2025.
0:57Do you have a motion?
1:05I'm not gonna say that I don't know who Matt Reif is, but I don't.
1:08That got me in trouble last time.
1:10Um sorry, Steve Guitar, but anyways, all right.
1:14Um, colleagues hearing that.
1:16Uh all those in favor?
1:20Item carries, thank you.
1:22Resolution number two is one amending a project management agreement between the city of Grand Rapids and this uh Grand Rapids Public Museum.
1:29Do you have a motion?
1:29So moved support moved and supported.
1:33Uh good morning, commissioners.
1:34Um, the the current agreement was approved with between the city and the museum back in March of 2022.
1:41Um this item just extends that um agreement for an additional three-year term for the city engineering department to work with the museum on um upcoming renovations and expansions.
1:53Um, so I know we put some dollars toward the elevator, there's some other renovations that are happening at the uh public museum, so a lot a lot of construction going on there.
2:02Um, colleagues, any questions on this item?
2:07Hearing none, all those in favor?
2:12Item number three is a resolution approving a three-year extension for existing agreements with a number of firms for professional and technical engineering services and approving an increase in the amount of such agreement agreements by 15 million for a total combined for all agreements not to exceed 30 million.
2:30Um Yeah, the the current agreements are with 19 firms.
2:34These were approved back in March of 2023 for a three-year term.
2:38The initial auth authorization was for 15 million.
2:41Um to date, we've authorized 15 million dollars in services.
2:44We've expended about 11.6 million.
2:47Um with our upcoming workload forecasting and projects, it's recommended that we increase these for an additional three-year term and increase an additional 15 million in expenditures.
2:58Um this supports various department projects, um, some like park projects with bathroom renovations, um, traffic safety safety projects, RFBs, signal projects, road reconstruction projects, projects at the Lake Michigan filtration plant, and wastewater recovery facility.
3:19Thank you for that overview.
3:20Colleagues, questions on this item.
3:22Are there opportunities for more people, more companies to participate, or is that a whole new process that they would have to start?
3:30I mean, we do have 19 firms, so we do put it out for um request for proposals each time and then select from the proposals received.
3:40Um yeah, we would have to go out for an RFQ to I guess add additional firms to it.
3:45There's not currently an on-ramp to get additional firms onto the contract.
3:49Um, I think last time we solicited it was 180 some firms.
3:54Um I think maybe we received about 40 proposals.
3:58Do you know when that was?
4:00Um, we awarded it back in March of 2013.
4:02March 3, so yeah, probably you know, three or four months prior to that.
4:07Um I would just suggest looking at ways we can get more onboarding in the middle.
4:12It's great to extend um terms for what we need, but if there was an opportunity to um get more people, we have new businesses starting, new construction and engineering firms that maybe want to get in, um, but they don't know how.
4:26So um finding ways to do that would be my suggestion.
4:34Hearing none, all those in favor?
4:39Item number four is a resolution awarding a contract with brick plumbing LLC for replacement of private led service lines at various locations in the amount of six hundred and forty-seven thousand seven hundred and fifty-nine dollars eighty cents with the total project cost not to exceed seven hundred and sixty-nine thousand five hundred and forty dollars.
5:00Um yes, this project we received bids, um, five bids.
5:03The low bid was approximately eleven percent under the engineer's estimate.
5:07Um brick will be utilizing 7.55% microlocal business um participation.
5:14Um the project is locally funded and includes about 200 private led service lines on the northwest side of town.
5:21Um to date the city's replaced approximately 8200 led service lines, and we have um not counting this contract about 950 lead service lines on contract to be completed um like kind of in the next 12 months.
5:34What's the percentage of the of the overall project then completed of that?
5:38You said 859 or 8200 have been completed.
5:42I think there's I don't have the exact number, but maybe like 17,600 remain.
5:47I believe it's a little over 17,000 left to do how many little over 17,000.
5:53Uh and we try to we're we're we're targeting 1900 a year, which we established that a few years ago when we were at 19,000 to try to get them done in 10 years.
6:02Thanks for that reminder.
6:04And you mentioned uh these are locally funded.
6:07Um I believe our recall that we got uh federal dollars at one point to help us do this.
6:13So tell say a little bit more about how that's being braided today.
6:16So um years ago we had the EPA grant, which I believe was 2021.
6:21We got uh a little over five million dollars.
6:23All of that money has been expended.
6:25We focused that all on um disadvantaged or neighborhoods of focus area when we did the private side only, which was also so when we say private side only is those are leftovers from when we did our CSO separations where we did water main replacement at that time when the sewers are separated, but we didn't do anything on the private side because there wasn't a requirement at that time.
6:46So when we're focusing on it now, like these that Jeff has talked about, um, these are in an area I believe it's between Bridge Street and I believe Lake Michigan Drive is where we're gonna be focusing with this particular contract, and those are all part of that old CSO area.
7:00So the money that's being used at this time right now is coming directly out of operating funds in the water system uh operating budget.
7:08And do you anticipate I have you all projected that that will be the reality moving forward for the duration of the project?
7:15We just actually we just um I shouldn't say that that was that's a different grant that we put in for, but we put in for a grant back in December through the EPA for additional funding for lead service line replacements.
7:26We still have yet to hear back on that, and I don't know where that stands at this point if that's even gonna happen.
7:31Uh we continue to seek uh DWF drinking water revolving fund dollars and loans for a lot of this work as well.
7:38Um with that um, you know, uh and we'll you'll be seeing something in the coming months with respect to the 2FY26 state drinking water revolving fund where we got essentially uh about two and a half million dollars in principal forgiveness in that type of funding.
7:54So we continue to use operating dollars on the private sides primarily, and when we do the fulls, we're trying to capitalize those.
8:01Does that make sense?
8:02You said we do the fulls.
8:04Fulls would be public's portion and private sides.
8:07So when you see like the the Jeff mentioned the 900 plus lead service lines that are under contract right now, those are what we would be calling the full lead service lines or public sides.
8:17So it basically from water main into the house.
8:22Thanks for that overview.
8:24Um any other additional questions, colleagues?
8:28Hearing none, all those in favor?
8:32Item number five is a resolution awarding a contract with Kent Companies in for certain repairs at the Lake Michigan Filtration Plant and the amount of one million two hundred and fifteen thousand six hundred and seventy-eight dollars twenty-three cents with the total amount not to exceed one million six hundred and sixty-two thousand seven hundred ninety-nine dollars.
8:51Or moved and supported.
8:54Um this project includes repairs to the facade and associated building elements addressed in an asset management plan at the Lake Michigan filter filtration plant.
9:03These repairs were identified as the highest priority from a safety perspective and include a lot of repairs to the facade.
9:09Um we received four bids for this project.
9:11Cant companies was the low bid at uh 1,215,678, which was about 32 percent under the engineer's estimate.
9:20Um it is a little bit specialized in nature of the work, um, so they're not using any MLBE contractors.
9:26Um the items to request award of the approval of the contract award to Kent Companies, um, the total not to exceed of 1,662,799.
9:38Additional questions, colleagues?
9:40Hearing none, all those in favor?
9:45Item number six is a resolution approving an increase of one hundred thousand for elder reservoir external cleaning and painting for a total not to exceed of two hundred and ninety-seven thousand fifty dollars.
9:58This is another uh water system project.
10:00This project was originally awarded back in May of 2025 for cleaning and painting of the Alger 5 million gallon reservoir.
10:07After they pressure washed it, a number of holes became apparent in the surface that needed to be repaired, which we didn't have enough contingency money for.
10:17So this additional authorization will cover the extensive hole repairs along with some roof vent necks that need to be replaced and some um Philister welds that are needed repair.
10:29Dixon Engineering, who's the consultant watching this job will also be evaluating the interior of the tank, which was not on the original scope, was just the exterior of the tank, so they have not performed those inspections yet, but we may need to return to commission for additional fund um once depending on what they find on that inspection.
10:51What's the age of the tank 50s, 60s?
10:58It's it's actually early 70s.
11:08Um so early 1970s for that particular tank and pump station.
11:12The pump station was actually rebuilt a few years ago to kind of we actually downsized it to meet the lower demands in that pressure district.
11:20So I've seen it all my life, so that means I was not born in the 70s.
11:31Okay, guys, it's Tuesday.
11:33It's it's gonna be fun.
11:34All right, all those in favor?
11:39Item number seven is a resolution approving an increase in the scope of work and authorizing expenditures to the contract with Nagel Construction Inc.
11:45in conjunction with rotomilling resurfacing of streets at various locations in the amount of nine hundred and thirty thousand uh with total project cost not to exceed uh six million four hundred and twenty-three thousand three hundred and thirty three hundred and sixty dollars.
12:01Support um this contract was originally awarded back on uh April 9th of 2024.
12:07The contract reserved the right at the city's option to add additional locations upon successful negotiations with the contractor.
12:14Um the contractor did express a willingness to take on additional work and recent work at some locations was also more extensive than planned, and we did add some additional locations.
12:24So this item increases the amount of contract work with Nagel, the amount of nine hundred thousand um with kind of an additional one point two million added to the overall project from what was previously approved.
12:46Next is uh resolution number eight, approving an increase to the construction management services agreement with Clark Construction Company for construction of fire department training facility at 850 Panel Street Northwest in the amount of eleven million eight hundred and sixty-two dollars with a total amount not to exceed forty million ninety-seven thousand seven hundred and fifty-four dollars.
13:10Moved and supported, Mr.
13:12Um as you may be aware, the new Kendall Fire Station just held the ribbon cutting ceremony last week and um is now an active station as of last Friday, I believe.
13:22Um this project kind of continues the the fire department trend.
13:25Um it's their new fire training facility located at panel back in March of 25.
13:30The commission approved an increase to the first phase of uh the first phase of bidding was completed by Clark.
13:37Um this is kind of the final phase of bidding by Clark.
13:40Um we're requesting um an increase of 11 million dollars to Clark's construction management agreement with total project amount not to exceed of 40 million ninety-seven thousand seven hundred-four, which would be the amount approved by this body to date.
13:57Um it is important to note that um there is a separate burn building project that will be on this site and due to grant funding requirements.
14:05Um that has to be bid separately, so that is not part of Clark's contract, and then the um the city will also be providing furniture to the site.
14:14So that's the the kind of the 46 million dollar number that's mentioned in the memo factors in those two items, yes.
14:22What's the reminder, Chief?
14:24What's the total amount of grant state federal dollars on this one?
14:3215 so fit 15 million uh from state and then 1.5 million uh which would be the berm building.
14:45Okay from uh federal.
14:48And then do we put capital dollars in this one too?
14:51Capital reserve funds okay, great.
14:54Well, congrats on the ribbon cutting.
14:56I didn't get to go, but I heard it was good.
15:00Um any other additional questions on this item.
15:04All right, hearing none, all those in favor?
15:08Item carries, thank you.
15:10Next is item number nine, which is a resolution approving a purchase agreement, accepting a deed and authorizing payments for construction of Grand River's Edge Trail East from Leonard Street to Ann Street, and an amount not to exceed uh 460,000.
15:27So this a little bit unusual.
15:28Normally this would be handled by the city engineer also, but in transition, and this one uh took a lot of hands to get it uh to get it forward.
15:36So uh just uh there isn't much uh to see here.
15:40Leonard to Ann Street is a trail connection that uh we have been trying to complete for some time and have Greenway uh funding dollars and a number of other funding sources to uh complete that section of the trail it's divided into a north portion and a south portion.
15:55Uh both should be going out to bid in the next couple months.
15:58Uh both should hopefully be completed before the end of next year.
16:04And it does need construction needs to start by 2026 because this is ARPA dollars.
16:08Uh construction, the ARPA dollars need to be fully spent by the end of 2026.
16:12So both start and make good progress.
16:16Because this one has taken a while, so glad to see it.
16:19Um 2026 right around the corner.
16:22All right, thank you.
16:23Questions on this ones, colleagues.
16:26Hearing none, all those in favor?
16:31Item number 10 is a resolution accepting a sidewalk and ill utility easement at 943 Godfrey Avenue Southwest in connection with Ockford from Norwich to Godfrey Reconstruction for $5,520.
16:47Yes, this items in connection with the Oxford from Norwich to Godfrey reconstruction project.
16:53Um the easement is necessary to replace a sanitary sewer, um, which is kind of outside the road right away to the the north of where Oxford is.
17:02Um the sewers actually currently in this location, but there's just no easement for it.
17:06So this item will um offer $5,520 for the the easement.
17:14Um, any questions, colleagues?
17:16Um, just to clarify, that is a permanent easement, right?
17:20Or correct a per permanent easement, not a gradient permit.
17:30Item number 11 is a resolution accepting a sidewalk and utility easement at 2787 Coy Avenue Northeast and construction with three mile road from Monroe Avenue to Plainfield Avenue resurfacing and authorizing payment for 1,650.
17:47Um the three-mile project from Monora to Plainfield is planned for resurfacing next year.
17:54A roundabouts proposed at Coyton Three Mile.
17:57Um, this easement will um just provide for the sidewalk to go um, I guess be relocated a little further.
18:04Um to the it's this is on the southwest corner to allow that roundabout to go in.
18:10I don't I don't think any utilities are associated with it, but we do call them utility and sidewalk agreements so we can put anything in them in the future.
18:22Item care item carries.
18:24Item number two is a resolution accepting an easement at uh 3300 36th Street Southeast for nominal consideration of one dollar.
18:34So moved or um Wedgewood Christian Services is doing some campus improvements um requiring a fire an existing fire hydrant to be relocated from its current easement to a new easement.
18:45Um so this is a new easement that they've requested, um, thus the one dollar consideration.
18:56Item number 13 is a resolution scheduling a public hearing on an amendment to the Brownfield plan of the City of Grand Rapids Brownfield Redevelopment Authority related to 123 Ottawa redevelopment project.
19:12Yes, this is uh for 125 Ottawa.
19:14This is proposing to redevelop the existing office space above uh the retail um just a block over a couple blocks over here on floors two through four uh for 36 different units, ranging from one to two bedrooms.
19:30Eight of the 36 will be reserved for under sixty percent AMI, which is uh one of the requirements for state funding that they're pursuing with through MISHTA.
19:40Uh we've got total eligible investment at 11.4 million.
19:44Uh the DDA did do their pass through on September uh 10th for the revenues, and then the only other thing that I wanted to mention is um we've got pretty significant uh subcontractor aspirational goals for the inclusion plan at 30 percent.
20:04And I'm happy to take any questions.
20:08Questions for on this project.
20:11Thanks for highlighting the AMI pieces.
20:13I know I got a chance to hear here the overview in Brownfield and just continued um you know adaptive use of of these downtown commercial buildings.
20:26Any opposed item carries.
20:28Item number 14 is a resolution scheduling a public hearing on November 18, 2025 on the draft fiscal year 2026 to 2020 2030.
20:38Well, consolidated housing and community development plan.
20:43Moved and supported.
20:46So this is our um new consolidated plan that's required by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development.
20:53It serves as a five-year plan and strategy for the allocation and use of your um of our formula funds that come through HUD.
21:03So the community development block grant, the home investment partnerships, and the emergency solutions grants programs.
21:09Um when we do our um processes though, in terms of our allocation, we add other resources as well, and so this plan would guide those resources.
21:19So, for example, the justice assistance grant and the opioid settlement funds.
21:24So we've been um working through um community consultations and focus groups.
21:30Um we've had a survey that's out, and we've been looking at, of course, other plans that are out and available the city's master plan, um, the housing um assessment plans and other documents that are available in the community that are address community um needs.
21:45And so we'll be bringing that all together in a draft, and it will be available for public comment between October 28th and November 26th, and then we will bring it forward to you in December uh for approval.
22:00It is not required to be submitted to HUD until May, but it does guide our investment strategy, so our neighborhood investment plan and that framework and outcomes um need to be established so that we can start our funding process in January.
22:18Thank you for this overview.
22:19Questions on this items, colleagues?
22:23We had a recent public hearing in your world as well.
22:28Well, um we always seem so similar.
22:34Yeah, I guess it's okay.
22:35But I'm I'm curious.
22:36There was some uh interesting feedback shared during the public hearing about um folks in wanting to know what dollars they can apply for as opposed to kind of the current process of being kind of in this pod.
22:50Comments, just curious, your response.
22:51So years ago, every funding source we would release an RFP for every single funding source.
22:59And then you would apply to that funding source for your activity.
23:03Um it becomes very, it's a lot to manage for one, and it's very complex how we do it now, um, but it also limits the ability because we are going to we have very limited funds.
23:14So, for example, our emergency shelters grants.
23:17We only have about I think it's 350,000, something like that.
23:22So anything to do with homelessness and financial assistance would be applying there, and we would not be able to fund a majority of those applications.
23:31And then we'd have to do this in a staggered approach throughout the year to try to um meet uh sort of I guess staffing uh capacity to be able to do those those RFPs individually.
23:44Um, and quite frankly, my opinion is is that um you have more opportunity when we're looking at the whole big picture and being able to plug in available funding sources with appropriate eligibility because we can see across right everything that we're we're allocating as opposed to this very narrow focus of this funding source and these specific rules and regulations, and a project may not be eligible for those resources, but may be eligible if we were to fund it in a different manner with a different funding source.
24:20So it really provides flexibility and allows us to maximize all of our resources.
24:25So I hear what they're saying, and that's how we used to do it.
24:28Um I think we're more effective and um have more opportunity for better outcomes when we do it in one process.
24:35Um when it comes to um I didn't hear a request to revert back to the old way.
24:41I think folks recognize that you know you have you've made a lot of process improvements.
24:46Uh more so what I heard was um, and this is again based on those three minutes, so you might have had a longer conversation with them.
24:54Um, but is there any way that even within this updated process that uh folks can have a bit more transparency about each of those funding sources, the requirements, the eligibility, that sort of thing.
25:04So I think that's something to consider.
25:06And that's that is on our website, but we can we can explain that um what those uses are.
25:12It's is in our plans.
25:13We can but we can do a better job.
25:17I was gonna um add to that.
25:18I think and I don't this might have been always ongoing, but um different sessions that you have like throughout the year that we're sort of uh preempting applying for different funds where people can come and review and to see if it's a fit.
25:32So um I don't remember when those usually happen, but I remember that they do this month.
25:37So we tried to do it in sort of well in advance so people can prepare.
25:40Yep, for the application.
25:42And I think I'll just add from being on the committee.
25:45Um, this is more so for those who are applying, is don't apply the day before it's due.
25:52And I and I and I and I'm and I'm you know not being facetious because we can see when somebody opens application.
25:59And so that is a question that we've asked at the committee level of when are the applications opened.
26:04And and not everybody, so you know, those of you are watching who are like, Commissioner, I didn't, but there is, and so and we do that because again, beforehand our staff members, you know, if you're you get into it and you run into something, then I know like I know somebody who did get some technical assistance last year.
26:22They didn't end up applying all the way.
26:24There were some things that happen.
26:26Um, but I think just also knowing that as well is what are some of the best practices, especially I think in this federal government standpoint.
26:35So I just wanted to add that from the last committee.
26:38Yeah, then that was a good point because someone did comment in the public hearing about wanting more time for their applications.
26:45And Commissioner Asassi is correct.
26:47So we tracked those um that those metrics in terms of when so there's lots of opening the day that they open, but it's when do they go in and actually start working on it?
26:57And well, well over the majority, um, start about three days before it's due.
27:03Um so yeah, I think it's just um I mean, have I been guilty of doing a grant the day before it was due?
27:11Um not for the city of Grand Rapids.
27:13I don't have any City of Grand Rapids funding.
27:14Um it's just I think with this process, you know, philanthropic funding versus grant funding, I think just you know, different requirements, different things to consider.
27:22So thank you for hosting those sessions and then did you want an explanation about the different public hearings, how it ties together.
27:31Um so the five-year plan sets your um sort of your allocation strategy and needs for a five-year period.
27:39Um, and then on an annual basis, we do an what's called the annual action plan.
27:44That is the funding process where we make those recommendations to you, and that serves as our application for those federal funds.
27:50So we're telling um the federal government um what we plan uh to fund how much and what we're going to accomplish with those resources.
28:00Um so and then um at the in the fall, we are then holding a public hearing hearing on what actually happened.
28:08So that was the CAPER.
28:09So that happens for those programs that for the the year that ends on June 30th each year.
28:15And so that ties to every year of that five-year plan.
28:19And I'm gonna, yeah, and I'm gonna end you right there because I'm looking at the time.
28:24But if if there's additional questions, we can you're always here, Connie.
28:31Uh you've been here for a long time and you're always here.
28:33All right, all those in favor?
28:38Um item number 15 is a resolution scheduling a public hearing on October 21st, 2025, to consider a naming new park space at uh 680 Cesar E.
28:48Chavez Avenue Southwest to Unity Park.
28:50Do you have a motion?
28:53All right, good morning, Laura Claypool with the parks department.
28:56Um in 2024, the department began the process of a formal naming search for Plaza Roosevelt, which it's currently known uh for the space at 680 Ceres Chavez Avenue.
29:07And through an extensive community engagement process, the name Nibaro Plaza was brought to uh the commission on April 29th.
29:16Um the department was asked to go back out and do a second round of engagement with the top two names.
29:21Um engagement took place over July and August and included postcard mailings to 1500 residents, email communications, a large banner at the site, um, multiple social media posts, inclusion in the neighborhood newsletter, and uh tabling at three events during that time.
29:39The response for the second round was almost double the first round.
29:41The voting closed on September 8th with Unity Report.
29:45Unity Park receiving 232 votes, Navarro Plaza receiving 183.
29:51The stakeholder group met on September 11th, and the park advisory board, they approved it unanimously, and the park advisory board also approved the name new unanimously on October 1st.
30:02Uh so we're seeking approval of a rev a resolution to schedule a public hearing for October 21st to consider Unity Park.
30:10Thank you, Miss Claypool.
30:11Um I know that this was some back and forth and some work um and appreciate the uh taking the feedback around community engagement.
30:19I want to say thank you to those that were part of that.
30:22Um, you know, the committee, those that all voted.
30:25Um colleagues, you have any additional comments or questions on this item?
30:29I just concur with your statements.
30:31Uh thank you for doing this, and I look forward to the public hearing.
30:41Next is a resolution confirming special assessment nuisance roll number eight uh eighty-eight hundred.
30:46Um, do you have a motion?
30:48So the board Miss Jasper.
30:57So um July 29th, the city commission issued an order for the assessor to create a special assessment uh roll, uh, 8800 for unpaid charges for services or code violations issued between January of 2025 and June of 2025, and as required by city ordinance, property owners were notified, and the special assessment role was open for public inspection.
31:23And in addition, we also post this assessment roll to our city website.
31:28And the city commission sat as a border review September 9th.
31:32We received six appeals.
31:34And we're recommending that you grant appeal number one for $13.50.
31:40Appeal number five for $379, and partially grant appeal number two to reduce the charge to 410 dollars.
31:49Um, and with this, we're requesting that you confirm the special assessment nuisance rule, and the amount will be 359-231 and 98 cents if uh you do grant those appeals.
32:04Thank you for overviewing that and pace to come down or to come and talk to you in 901 and to see what's going on, right?
32:12Um colleagues, any questions on this item in the update?
32:19So uh appeal number five.
32:21Yep, or I'm sorry, appeal number two was originally one thousand one hundred and thirty-eight dollars and ninety cents, and we're recommending that you reduce the charge to four hundred and ten dollars.
32:34Yeah, I see that in attachment.
32:36Is that the only one that this includes or the all all the changes that are included in this?
32:41So there's three changes that we're recommending.
32:44Number one, appeal number one for thirteen dollars fifty cents, appeal number five for three hundred and seventy-nine dollars, and number two to reduce the charges.
33:02Any additional questions or hearing none?
33:08Item carries, thank you, Paula.
33:11Our last item is this is a discussion item, which is not typical for this committee.
33:15Um, but uh let me first read it.
33:18Discussion of a new request to rename a portion of Delaware Street to Amelia Penway.
33:23Um, and this has Miss Barrens on here, but I'm gonna just share a couple of comments, mindful of the time as well.
33:28So, colleagues, you know that this item came before us.
33:31Um, and we moved it forward.
33:34There was a public hearing.
33:35Um, we heard from a number of neighbors on Umatilla, um, some who were questioning why they there was another street renaming that hadn't been done, and really just feeling that they felt that that was not the best use on their street.
33:49Um, I know I can speak for myself and I don't want to speak for anybody, but listening to people who live on a block um definitely sway me a lot of if I'm gonna move forward with something.
34:00I think the question was also how do we apply the policy of the street renaming in this instance?
34:05Certainly a horrible tragic death of a young person to lose their life, um, 15 years old.
34:11Um, and we also saw this playing out in other ways as the um the show that features GRPD um had an episode related to his his tragic murder.
34:21Um and I think really we also had another uh street renaming at that time, and so taking into account at least for me what people on the block were saying, and also really reflecting on what that policy says is somebody who has made contributions during their lifetime, um, which is hard to to have that discussion with a um with somebody and and regarding their child, everybody's life is important.
34:47Um, but really um what could be a better way that we could identify those that are victims um who have been victims of gun violence in particular?
34:56And so at that point, we decided not to move forward with that motion.
35:00So the motion you know essentially died.
35:02We did not consider it.
35:04Um I had talked to um Corey Penn, who is a Millier's father many times, and I know others on commission have as well, um, to let him know that um and to explain that because I think sometimes if you're coming to commission for the first time, it may not be clear.
35:19Um let him know that that had ended, and then he had come back and submitted a letter as well.
35:25It was in our packet, I think the last meeting um asking for a consideration of a different street.
35:32And so um did have some conversations with colleagues, you know.
35:36I think any time somebody comes back to us, I want to be able to vet something out in the end, and my decision, I think the decision collectively as a whole is that decision to not move it forward um uh would be the same outcome, say if there was a new process.
35:52So why would we have somebody go through that process if we were gonna do the same thing?
35:56Um, and then stay very committed to um and I know Commissioner Purdue, you brought this up, you know, June um is gun violence awareness month.
36:04Um we had missed that time frame when uh over this summer, but how could we recognize, particularly in a uh city-led proclamation that would speak to you know this being sparked by Amelia's father, Corey, um identifying in conjunction with different things we do, like our prize or other um arts organizations a reflection to recognize those that have died by gun violence and then most disturbing and probably very hard to hear over the weekend is that there was another young man who was who was shot on Umatilla.
36:39And so, you know, I think the question is not about it, I think for all of us is not about did this person's life matter absolutely.
36:48Is this father working so hard to make sure that his memory is is gonna be there forever?
36:55Penn talked about young people coming to him and just expressing their sadness of what they witnessed on that block.
37:01And so um, and also recognizing that we have um we have identified a specific policy.
37:10So just because this is a no, it doesn't mean that there's not another way to recognize in a more robust and probably ongoing way, and also recognize that there's many other people who also would like to recognize gun violence and that we need to continue to identify this as a major public health um issue in our city.
37:29So that's a little bit of my soapbox.
37:31Um Miss Barons, I know you had an opportunity to talk to to Corey Penn as well.
37:36Uh certainly, and I don't want to speak on his behalf.
37:39I expect he'll continue to advocate um as he has.
37:42I just wanted to uh follow up that I did speak with Mr.
37:46Penn about um reaching out later this week to establish a way that we can engage with him and other interested stakeholders on the follow-up of what is a better way to memorialize.
37:56So coming up with tangible things for the commission to consider in the future that would be responsive to that need.
38:03Colleagues, any final comments on this item.
38:09Hearing none, um, thank you all, and thank you.
38:12Um and again, as a reminder, the decision about um the street renaming is solely that of the city commission.
38:18So while it might take some time, it does go through our engineering process.
38:22Um I think we're also having uh community engagement involved.
38:25Um in the end, it it is the the commission's decision.
38:28So I think in the memo though, it does outline that um the final census is this request is not me require conditions for approval and therefore city staff will not continue too further process the the request.
38:41Yes, I would say yes, and knowing what our stance is, you know, even more makes that you know because I think the conversations that I had after was that there was a desire to say if this were to come before us, we would still apply the same the same consideration to that.
39:01You know, and I would say, you know, in the individual conversations that I had.
39:05So and I think we're with ever with not everything are we always a hundred percent, but I think in this regard, there is you know, all seven of us agree that this is uh a different way.
39:18I don't know if it's a better way because I it's Mr.
39:20Penn's decision of what he wants to do, but we think it is the appropriate way, following our guidelines and making sure um we don't forget victims of gun violence throughout the year.
39:30So all right, with that we're adjourned.