Welcome to the City of Green Charter Review Commission.

It is March 23rd and it is 5 03 p.m.

Um call the meeting to order and um please rise for the pledge of allegiance of allegiance.

That's just for all my charity.

Call the roll.

Sure.

Mr.

Knapp.

President.

Ms.

Conan.

Here.

Ms.

Coral.

Here.

Miss Yanko?

Here.

And Mr.

Dufferin is not here yet.

Um under procedural review, I just thought it would just jump in and add a couple of things since we have law director here.

Is that maybe um after we go through review of Article 7, or we could do it before we we can roll back to um Article 7 when we discussed the law director and we could had some questions and things we could talk about.

And I think that one's gonna take more discussion anyway.

Um and then um Lisa for what we're trying to do is we we've got a running uh word document, thank you, Sharon, of the things we're looking at, but we want to get through all articles and then we're gonna go back and curate that to come up with those things we believe are substantive and material.

And I still kind of get stuck on.

I mean, it's going into the ballot that these ought to be significant things that are addressing an issue of modernization, whatever those are.

So that's our attempt.

Because I so we I didn't want to give you something to look at when it some of those things may just drop off because we don't think they're material.

And then I think what we'll end up doing is have a a second document that we would send to the council and mayor, which would be things maybe that we were not addressing here, but that we that should be thought about, or I'll call them out of scope things.

I think like um job descriptions should be refreshed annually, and so we're gonna put some things in recommendations.

Um but anyway, that's the process that we're trying to do so we can get to a good list, work through it the language as best we can, and then you'll get get it to you for your um final touches and help get it prepared for both council and hopefully on the ballot.

Yeah, sounds good.

I mean, I'm happy to answer any questions tonight that you have about the law director position or interpretation of the charter in that regard or you know, anything about that.

Um I can't remember how I got invited tonight.

I know the mayor said to me I think it might be time for you to go.

He said that, but I think also somebody on the commission messaged me and asked me to come.

Okay.

And um, and then I had been I've been following along, like Sharon has been sending me the minutes, and I've been kind of following along and answering questions that uh every once in a while when you guys would ask me.

Yeah, um and then I I think I gave you some.

So last year Stowe and Barbadon went through their huge undertaking, and so I gave you some suggesti I or I guess I could it went out of suggestions, it's just like things they changed.

Um and so yeah, I'm happy to.

I kind of came, I tried to come prepared tonight.

Okay, but I might also have to say, let me think about that or let me look that up.

Yeah, no, that's why I think it might be over time, because I said I think we're still trying to figure it out.

And I did take the time today to review the video in detail on the law director section.

And a lot of the things that have come up here came up back then.

Yeah, and I think what they ended up with was the best thinking that they had.

Yeah, and so I don't know if there's a lot of substantive changes that we can make.

Yeah.

Um it's challenging, and uh and for me it was uh revelation in that because it's elected position, I'm I'm used to looking at a job description and it's there isn't one, so therefore then in a chart or something and try to build guardrails, I guess.

And that was just a little different for me, so now I'm finally up to speed.

So anyway, that's kind of how we're gonna proceed through.

Okay, sounds good.

And we're gonna try to move.

I said quickly.

Um, I think once we get past article eight, we should move pretty quickly, and then we'll circle back and start working through original one.

Plus, I think as we get later in it, we're probably gonna change some of the thoughts on some of the earlier uh questions that we had.

So can I just say before I mean I don't know if I this is out of turn, but like the general big picture overview that I got is just what you said, which is that we're kind of rehashing uh 2018, you know, 2019 kind of opening old wounds.

I don't know if that's a good thing.

Maybe it is time to look at it and just see where we are.

I'm I would love to give you my perspective of what my experience has been with this.