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Greenville City Council Workshop - January 8, 2024

City CouncilMonday, January 8, 2024
BodyGreenville, North Carolina
SessionCity Council
DateMonday, January 8, 2024
StatusFILED
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1:18

All right, good afternoon, everyone.

1:20

Welcome to the January 8, 2024 workshops at the Greenville City Council.

1:24

I'm Mayor P.

1:25

J.

1:25

Connolly, and I'll be presiding over today's workshop.

1:28

First, I'd like to call on our city clerk for the roll call.

1:31

Yes, our Mayor Connolly.

1:32

Here.

1:32

Mayor Sam Daniels.

1:34

Present.

1:34

Councilmember Foreman's let us know she's on her way.

1:37

Councilmember Blackburn present.

1:39

Councilmember Skelly.

1:40

Here.

1:41

Councilmember Robinson should also be on the way.

1:43

Councilmember Willis?

1:44

Here.

1:45

All right.

1:45

Mayor Connelly have a form.

1:46

Thank you very much.

1:47

We'll move on to approval of the agenda.

1:49

Mr.

1:49

Manager, any changes?

1:50

No changes.

1:51

Yeah.

1:52

Second.

1:58

Say aye.

2:00

Motion passes four and zero.

2:02

All right.

2:03

We'll move on to new business.

2:05

The first item under new business is a sports complex feasibility study, uh, interim report and presentation.

2:11

One of the strategic goals of council uh currently is to make Greenville a destination community.

2:17

And back in June of uh 2023, council asked staff to uh move forward with a feasibility study of the potential impact of a sports complex for the Greenville Pitt County community, whether that'd be indoor or outdoor to look at the cost of capital, the cost of operations, and the economic impact it would have on the local economy.

2:36

At that point in time, the city engaged uh Victus advisors who have a wealth of experience in providing these types of feasibility studies for municipalities and local governments around the country.

2:49

In fact, one of the major clients of Victus has been the Virginia Beach area as they've moved forward their indoor sports complex over the last several years.

2:57

We have with us here managing partner of victus, Brian Connley, in attendance to provide the first part of overview of uh this project, knowing that the first part will be to see uh the up that has the findings have been as far as the most potential for the Greenville Pitt County area.

3:15

The second part of this conversation will be at the planning session where Brian will go through the impact on cost of capital operations as well as the economic impact to the region.

3:38

I'm glad to be here.

3:39

And again, I'm Andrew Schmidt, I'm president and CEO of his Greenville NC.

3:43

That also encompasses our sports commission, which we brand ourselves as play Greenville NC Sports.

3:49

Um so just some very quick background before I introduce Brian.

3:52

Um sports tourism right now is the fastest growing market in the hospitality industry today.

3:59

So with households with kids, that household income, 10% of that household income income is spent on sports-related activities.

4:06

Um that continues to increase.

4:08

So we know that that's a growing market.

4:10

Um last year, uh 22 23 fiscal year, we put 49 tournaments into Greenville Pitt County that generated about 13 million dollars of economic impact.

4:20

Estimated.

4:21

Um we do have great facilities here.

4:23

Um D1 facilities, JUCO facilities with Pitt Community College, Recon Parks facilities, um, high school facilities and county facilities.

4:32

The commonality with all this facilities is that they're for someone else first.

4:41

So we turn away an awful lot of business.

4:44

Um people who would like to bring tournaments here.

4:46

One quick story that I'll introduce Brian.

4:48

We have a gentleman that lives in Greenville who wanted to put on 10 softball tournaments.

4:53

And he cannot do that here.

4:56

He took all of his tournaments outside of Pitt County.

5:00

So instead of bringing in a lot of people into the county and creating that economic impact and that destination profile and that exposure, he had to take them out.

5:06

So that's an example of things that we deal with at the sports tourism office.

5:10

So we're excited that this is being discussed.

5:13

Very exciting.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Sports Facilities█████████████████████████████████████37%
Personnel Matters████████████████████████████28%
Public Safety████████████12%
Zoning And Land Use██████████10%
Procedural██████6%
Economic Development███3%
Public Transportation██2%
Public Engagement██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Greenville City Council Workshop - January 8, 2024

The Greenville City Council held a workshop on January 8, 2024, at 9:15 AM (per meeting records; the agenda listed a 4:00 PM start time). The workshop covered three major agenda items: an interim report on the sports complex feasibility study, a preview of the Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) project, and a presentation from the Greenville Police Department on recruitment and retention efforts. The agenda was approved unanimously (4-0). No public comments were heard.

Discussion Items

Sports Complex Feasibility Study Interim Report

  • Andrew Schmidt (President/CEO of Greenville ENC, encompassing the sports commission) introduced Brian Connolly, founder and managing principal of Victus Advisors. The city engaged Victus in 2023 to conduct a sports tourism market and financial analysis.
  • Connolly presented findings from Phase I (market research). Key points:
    • Baseball and softball are the primary drivers of sports tourism in Greenville, generating the most hotel nights over the past three years despite the lack of a dedicated multi-field complex.
    • Greenville has strong partnerships with national organizations (e.g., USA Softball, Little League) and a reputation as a baseball mecca (named Sportstown USA in NC).
    • Currently, the area lacks "sports tourism caliber facilities" – e.g., no complex with eight or more ball diamonds, basketball/volleyball courts, rectangular fields, or a 50-meter pool.
    • Over 25 million people live within a five-hour drive. Pitt County has 2,100+ hotel rooms with average daily rates ($80–$120) well below the national average ($150), a competitive advantage.
    • Stakeholders (city, Visit Greenville, county, ECU) unanimously support sports tourism as aligned with organizational goals.
    • The top opportunity for return on investment is a baseball/softball complex (8–12 diamonds), followed by an indoor court facility, outdoor rectangular fields, and a 50-meter pool.
  • Phase II (financial/economic analysis) will be presented at the council planning session on January 27, 2024. It will include operating models, cost estimates, economic impact, and funding options.
  • Councilmember questions/input:
    • Councilmember Barber requested inclusion of transportation access and consideration of track and field. Connolly noted track was evaluated but did not rank in the top four opportunities.
    • Councilmember Skelly emphasized the need to involve ECU, the county, and schools in funding and usage discussions.
    • Mayor Connolly stressed that the study was not a self-fulfilling prophecy but an objective look at market potential.

Unified Development Ordinance (UDO) Project

  • Chief Planner Shante Gooby presented an overview. The UDO will consolidate and modernize the city's zoning and subdivision ordinances, which have not been comprehensively updated since the 1990s.
  • Goals: user-friendly language with diagrams/pictures, elimination of redundancies, updates for legislative changes, and improved predictability.
  • A consultant has been selected; a contract approval item will come before council on February 5, 2024.
  • The project timeline is 18–24 months, with task force meetings, public engagement, and eventual consideration by the Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council. Target adoption: fall/winter 2025.
  • Councilmember Barber noted the UDO aligns with addressing climate change, vegetation, accessibility, sprawl, and center city development. She asked about task force composition and emphasized including diverse voices (disabilities, environmental groups, etc.). Staff will share the task force roster with council.
  • Councilmember questioned whether updating the Horizons comprehensive plan first would be more advantageous. Staff explained the current Horizons plan remains useful and the UDO is more overdue; a separate Horizons update will follow after the UDO is completed.

Police Department Recruitment and Retention

  • City Manager and Chief of Police Sauls presented a plan to address staffing shortages. Current sworn officer vacancies: 27 (with 10 in the academy, potentially reducing to 17). Since March 2022, vacancies have never been below 22 and peaked at 44.
  • Key statistics:
    • Greenville's starting police salary ($48,672) ranks 7th among benchmark cities, down from 3rd. The state average for vacancy is approximately 25%; Greenville has held around 15%.
    • Approximately 50% of officers leave before year 7, with about half going to other agencies. Reasons: higher starting pay, less workload, location, better incentives.
    • Each year since 2019, the department has lost about 20 sworn officers.
    • Training takes 16–20 weeks for basic law enforcement plus 16–20 weeks field training; the department mandates over 60 hours of annual in-service training (state minimum is 24).
  • Proposed changes (mid-year adjustments):
    1. Increase starting pay from $48,672 to $51,106, with an additional 5% after six-month probation (to $53,661). This would move Greenville to 2nd or 3rd among benchmark cities.
    2. Create a Senior Patrol Officer rank at the 4-year mark with a 5% pay increase; adjust Advanced Patrol Officer (APO) from 2% to 2.5% and maintain Master Patrol Officer (MPO) at 10% increase at 10 years.
    3. Add a 2.5% incentive for military service and a second language (Spanish) incentive.
    4. Future consideration of a loyalty incentive for officers at 15+ years.
  • Other initiatives: co-responder model with Trillium for mental health calls, civilian traffic crash investigators (four positions to handle property-damage-only crashes, expected to reduce officer call volume by 25%).
  • Councilmember Robinson praised the work and suggested being more aggressive (e.g., highest paid in state) to attract experienced officers. Chief Sauls noted that the department is already seeing officers from other states and emphasized the need for competitive pay and retention.
  • City manager indicated these adjustments can be funded within current revenues and overtime savings, with full budget implications to be addressed in the upcoming budget process.

Key Outcomes

  • The agenda was approved 4-0.
  • No formal votes were taken on the substantive items; they were presented for discussion and future action.
  • The Sports Complex Feasibility Study will continue with Phase II presented at the January 27 planning session.
  • The UDO contract will be brought to council for approval on February 5.
  • Police pay and recruitment recommendations will be considered as part of the mid-year budget adjustment and the upcoming budget cycle. Council indicated support for further steps if the initial changes are insufficient.

Meeting Transcript

All right, good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the January 8, 2024 workshops at the Greenville City Council. I'm Mayor P. J. Connolly, and I'll be presiding over today's workshop. First, I'd like to call on our city clerk for the roll call. Yes, our Mayor Connolly. Here. Mayor Sam Daniels. Present. Councilmember Foreman's let us know she's on her way. Councilmember Blackburn present. Councilmember Skelly. Here. Councilmember Robinson should also be on the way. Councilmember Willis? Here. All right. Mayor Connelly have a form. Thank you very much. We'll move on to approval of the agenda. Mr. Manager, any changes? No changes. Yeah. Second. Say aye. Motion passes four and zero. All right. We'll move on to new business. The first item under new business is a sports complex feasibility study, uh, interim report and presentation. One of the strategic goals of council uh currently is to make Greenville a destination community. And back in June of uh 2023, council asked staff to uh move forward with a feasibility study of the potential impact of a sports complex for the Greenville Pitt County community, whether that'd be indoor or outdoor to look at the cost of capital, the cost of operations, and the economic impact it would have on the local economy. At that point in time, the city engaged uh Victus advisors who have a wealth of experience in providing these types of feasibility studies for municipalities and local governments around the country. In fact, one of the major clients of Victus has been the Virginia Beach area as they've moved forward their indoor sports complex over the last several years. We have with us here managing partner of victus, Brian Connley, in attendance to provide the first part of overview of uh this project, knowing that the first part will be to see uh the up that has the findings have been as far as the most potential for the Greenville Pitt County area. The second part of this conversation will be at the planning session where Brian will go through the impact on cost of capital operations as well as the economic impact to the region. I'm glad to be here. And again, I'm Andrew Schmidt, I'm president and CEO of his Greenville NC. That also encompasses our sports commission, which we brand ourselves as play Greenville NC Sports. Um so just some very quick background before I introduce Brian. Um sports tourism right now is the fastest growing market in the hospitality industry today. So with households with kids, that household income, 10% of that household income income is spent on sports-related activities. Um that continues to increase. So we know that that's a growing market. Um last year, uh 22 23 fiscal year, we put 49 tournaments into Greenville Pitt County that generated about 13 million dollars of economic impact. Estimated. Um we do have great facilities here. Um D1 facilities, JUCO facilities with Pitt Community College, Recon Parks facilities, um, high school facilities and county facilities. The commonality with all this facilities is that they're for someone else first.

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