0:44Good afternoon and welcome to the Hampton City Council work session.
0:47Uh, Madam Clerk, you call the role, please.
0:52Councilwoman Campbell.
1:00And we have a couple of presentations on the agenda this afternoon.
1:04So I'm going to ask the city manager, city manager to introduce the first.
1:09Mayor, our first item today is a presentation, an update from the Virginia Peninsula Community College, which is a wonderful asset in our community for everyone from our high school students all the way up to adults who are seeking to improve their skills training or just want to learn.
1:47Good morning, good afternoon, actually, esteemed counsel.
1:50Thank you so much for having us.
1:52We bring you greetings from President Brandon and Virginia Peninsula Community College.
1:55My name is Nikia Maidry Smith, Director of Campus and Community Initiatives.
1:59And we were sort of introduced already, so I don't know if we want to do it again, but sure.
2:04I'm the Chief of Staff.
2:07Steve Carpenter, Vice President of the Finance Administration.
2:12And we we thank you for the time and this opportunity to kind of present some of our college updates, some of the things that we're working on, some of the things that we're excited about.
2:19So we're extremely excited to report that for the first time in many years, some years we're growing.
2:24So after some decline, we have observed two consecutive years.
2:29Excuse me, there we go.
2:30Two consecutive years of enrollment growth, and we are on track for that third year.
2:34We do feel that this is unique to BPCC because many institutions here in the area are still struggling with enrollment.
2:41Um that's both at the four-year and the community college level.
2:46As you can see here in this chart, Hampton students play a big role in our success, representing about 24.7% of our total enrollment.
2:57In addition to our students here, we attribute this enrollment success to how we are engaging with students on the peninsula.
3:03We hold fast track events where students can enroll in a day.
3:17We're at middle schools, high schools, we host open houses, new student orientations, small and large group campus tours, and personalized care through one-on-one appointments.
3:28On the workforce side, fast forward funding has become a critical component for how we can deliver on our mission to provide access to short-term credential programs, which lead our community members to high-paying, high-demand jobs that also fill that workplace uh gap for our employers.
3:44The workforce credential grant is a state-funded program that covers two-thirds of a student's tuition.
3:50They pay that first third up front, and once they successfully complete that credential, that two-thirds kicks in.
3:57But I would like to point out that with other funding options, other assistance programs, most of our students pay little to nothing, so we're very excited about that, proud about that.
4:05Since established in 2016, we have seen growth in the fast forward program by about 127%, representing about 20% year over year.
4:20So the VCCS has been reallocating funds up through fiscal year 2025, but beginning this year, fiscal year 2026.
4:28Um those budget adjustments just weren't possible, and so it has impacted our ability to serve a larger number of students through the that fast forward funding.
4:54These programs typically range from two weeks to six months, and they're designed to get students to work very fast in these high demand fields.
5:01The graph here shows our fiscal year 25 numbers, and it shouldn't be a surprise that in first number one, we've got Newport News followed very closely by Hampton and then Williams uh Williamsburg, James City County.
5:13Shouldn't be surprising due to the fact that our trade centers are somewhat located in those areas.
5:18We do have a somewhat recent opening of our Toano Trade Center in 2023, and as most of you are hopefully all of you are aware, we will open our new uh Newport News Trade Center in the coming weeks.
5:28So we hope that you all come out and support.
5:30We continue to monitor the region's talent needs.
5:33Workforce is very agile and they can quickly set up quick programs, uh customized programs to meet that that demand.
5:40For example, at our Newport News Trade Center facility, we'll be expanding maritime training opportunities by introducing a structural fitting pathway as well as opening a construction trades lab.
5:52We will continue to expand and to offer these, make these offerings available to our community members.
5:57All depends on the funding being available to us to be able to provide those resources to those who are in the programs.
6:05Dual enrollment is also an area that's quickly expanding, and um high school dual enrollment has grown significantly since 2021, and we expect that growth to continue over the next several years, particularly because the General Assembly uh legislation now requires that every high school offer the uniform certificate of general studies as well as the passport program, and we're working within each school district to uh approach that with kind of a phased approach, making sure that that's covered in all of the schools.
6:33Dual enrollment enrollment by locality.
6:35So by locality, we mean the home address of the student in the program.
6:38As you can see, you guys are killing it.
6:41So Hampton is a great partner.
6:42You've always been a great partner representing uh a little more than 31% of our total dual enrollment, which reflects significant growth from 2021 to 2022.
6:52And again, this is based on the home address of the student in the program.
6:56And here is just a closer look at Hampton City Schools.
6:59We've got about a little over 2,500 uh students in our dual enrollment program, and Hampton City Schools in 24-25 represented 865 of those students.
7:08And I will pass off to Ida Badgley.
7:12So, and we wanted to share a little bit about retention numbers and completion numbers.
7:17So, in addition to enrollment, which is important, attracting students, having them get enrolled, we can we can make sure that we're helping with social mobility in that way.
7:26We need it doesn't help if they don't complete their programs, right?
7:29And so we've been doing a lot to work on retention initiatives, everything from making sure that the students feel cared for, right?
7:36Having lots of activities for them to do.
7:38We've expanded our athletics program.
7:40We work a lot to make sure that we have wraparound services so the students are being cared for in all different ways.
7:46Um, and so as you can see, our retention numbers, so students who enter from one fall to the next are retained so that they are more likely to complete.
7:55We've been able to award more degrees and certificates over the past couple years, um, and our short-term completers are up 19%.
8:04I will share that our completion rate is uh our three-year completion rate, so that's how we typically will measure completion, um, is 34%, with an additional 19% who successfully transfer to another institution, which makes our overall completion rate about 40 uh uh 54 percent.
8:23So we're really proud of that.
8:24Um, that is something that we've been working on again with those retention initiatives and really pouring into our students to make sure that they feel that they are welcome and that they complete uh their programs.
8:36What that means to you uh is that uh at the four-year institutions, typically only about 57% of graduates stay in the area, um, but at VPCC, close to 80% stay on the peninsula and contribute back to the local economy.
8:55They become part of our workforce and they will contribute back at significantly higher rates.
9:02So we're really proud to be part of that.
9:05Um the other piece uh is that it doesn't really help that they complete if they don't get a job.
9:11And so we've been trying to track how our graduates are getting placed within gainful employment quickly after their completion of the graduation.
9:22This is an area that as we look at these numbers, we are really proud of where we are, but we are going to be pouring in some more resources to this.
9:30One of the things that we don't have is job placement services or career services center, and so as we um start planning for the future, that's a focus area that we're gonna start thinking about and trying to increase so that we can give that resource to our students.
9:47And I'll pass it over to Steve.
9:52So I'm excited to share some of the facility improvements that we're seeing at the college, most of which right here in the great city of Hampton.
10:00Um so within our uh both campuses right now, we're renovating student spaces, making it uh more enjoyable and a more inviting environment for students to to be a part of the college community, feel like they belong, really hang out and make it a home for them.
10:16You can see the bottom right corner, a newly uh revitalized um Gators Cafe area where students hang out all the time.
10:25Christian Theater, which I think you all are very familiar with.
10:28I think you held a uh an event here recently uh at that theater for your budget.
10:34Um that uh had a grand opening in January, or excuse me, ribbon cutting in January.
10:38We're really excited about that, and it's filling up quickly throughout the the rest of the year with community uh partners coming in and utilizing that facility as well as the college with some arts programs there.
10:50The mentioned earlier uh Newpreneuse Trade Center.
10:53So we have a ribbon cutting on the 25th.
10:55I hope that you all uh were invited and are able to make that ribbon cutting nearly right outside the gates of the shipyard.
11:02Uh this is put together through a great partnership with um the federal and uh local partners to make this possible, and that again should be open uh on the 25th, and we should be holding classes in there next month.
11:17Really excited about that.
11:19And then finally, the biggest one of them all.
11:21If you've traveled up and down uh Interstate 64 recently and saw all the demolition going on, so we recently demolished the three original buildings of the campus uh put together in 19 or built in 1967.
11:34So those have now been fully demolished, and we're making way for our new three-story 75,000 square foot building that will house uh approximately 20 classrooms and labs for students, as well as most of our student services will be in there, and then on the third floor, um, much of our administration will be in that building.
11:54So we're really really excited about those those improvements coming to the campus.
11:59Last thing I want to share with you is just a note on um some of the uh this is a recent um student satisfaction survey that we hold every year.
12:09This one's the most recent from the fall, and just to highlight a few of the comments that we're receiving from students.
12:15We're really really proud of the work we're doing at the college, receiving great feedback from from the students, some constructive criticism as well, which we welcome.
12:24Uh it helps us to grow as an organization.
12:26But you can see here um just some of the real highlights and specificity around what's going on at the college and how it's really uh making the students uh feel at home and do well and get them out into the workforce producing taxes for us here at the city.
12:43Uh and then finally, again, just want to thank you for your time.
12:47Uh, welcome any questions that you might have.
12:50Uh if you think of something later, there's a uh email address on the screen there that you can drop down.
12:55Of course, we have four wonderful representatives from uh the city of Hampton that serve on our local college board.
13:03Um, so you're also uh can reach us through them or reach directly out to Dr.
13:08Brandon and the email address there.
13:10So here to uh take any questions that you might have on what we talked about today or any other topic.
13:16Okay, councilwoman Harper.
13:18Thank you for the wonderful presentation.
13:21Um I would like to say I know you all used to have a dental hygiene program, and um I would love for you all to bring that back.
13:29It is very much needed, particularly in the state of Virginia.
13:32They are 900 short approximately, and um because I went to the dentist the other day, and my and my dentist was she was talking about that, and how um you know the appointments are much further out than what she would like because they're terribly in need of dental hygienist.
13:56So, and she did mention that um, you know, about your program, and I would just love for you all to very much consider bringing that back.
14:04Yeah, this is very much needed.
14:06So, yes, and and we would like to bring it back.
14:08I'll explain a little bit about that program and why it it's on hold at the moment.
14:13Um, so we were running that program for the last 10, 12 years, and uh I'm I'm the vice president of finance administration, so this is near and dear to my heart.
14:24We were losing uh nearly 600,000 a year in that program.
14:29Obviously, we have to have uh uh an actual dentist oversee it.
14:33You have it to have a staff because it's uh a certified or excuse me, uh accredited program, and has to be an accredited program.
14:41You have limitations on the staff to student ratio, which is very, very small.
14:45I think one to five in many cases.
14:47So the staffing of the program is just super expensive.
14:51So we were running a program for 20 students.
14:54There's a cohort of 10 uh each year, so we were running you know 10 for one year one, 10 for you year two.
15:01So you have 20 students in the program at a loss of roughly six hundred thousand dollars a year, where we uh felt like we were um not doing well towards other students at the school where that money could maybe be utilized in a different way rather than rather than losses.
15:19So we put the program on hold.
15:21We have gone uh to partners both um within the private community, Delta Dental is a big one, as well as the state.
15:28We've had a really really big push this year.
15:31We've met with our state legislatures.
15:34Brandon's been out uh paneling the pavement, meeting with them, trying to uh bring in some some assistance for that program, and to date the General Assembly has chosen not to support the program.
15:47Uh we have potential this year for some one-time funding uh to offset costs, but we really can't open the program with one-time funding, like to get one year done, you know, and then go back to losing a half million dollars a year just doesn't make sense.
16:04So uh a decision will be made when we know more about what assistance we can get, but for the time being the program I believe is is looking to remain on hold until we can you know the state puts their money where their mouth is.
16:19They say they need dental hygienists.
16:21Let's let's see some support for it.
16:25All right, thank you.
16:29Okay, any other questions from council members?
16:31I do have one regarding the uh fast forwarding program, and I know I noticed that the funding for the program it has gone up for several years.
16:42And so far me if I missed this, but how is the fast forward program funded?
16:46Because I think you mentioned that they the students are getting a workforce credential, no credit, but there's no cost to the student.
16:53Did I did I understand that correctly?
16:57So um so the funding comes uh in phases.
17:03So there's there's three pieces to it, and this the state funding covers uh all of the the three parts.
17:12The third part gets paid if they actually get the certification.
17:15So you get your uh part one when they start the class, part two when they finish the class, part three when they obtain take the test for the actual certification.
17:24You can see here on the charts a little bit hard to see on the screen here.
17:27But what was happening was the white uh the white was the funding, and the purple is this this the need or the students.
17:34So uh as the program began to uh to grow, we were borrowing from the next year to pay this year.
17:43So each year we borrow from the next year to pay this year.
17:45You can see the difference between 23, 24, and then 25.
17:49So finally in 25, the state said you can't do that anymore.
17:52You can't borrow money from next year to pay for this year.
17:54So we were we were cut off on that funding, which so that's why in the current year we've had to really trim back the uh our ability to serve the students because uh the state put a there's already a cap.
18:08Now I will say in the general assembly for the current budget that's being debated right now, there is additional funding for the program.
18:16Uh a large part of it is coming from our own Virginia Community College system, um a surplus that we have or a um fund balance, I should say.
18:27Uh year one will come in part from that, and then beyond that, there is additional funding that the state is willing to put uh into this program so that we can begin to grow it again.
18:38Okay, councilwoman Mugler.
18:42Mayor, just to just to follow up on your question, but uh when you initially talked about this, the student pays one-third.
18:50And then in many cases, the student will pay one third, yes.
18:54In some cases, depending on their need, they can pay zero.
19:00So does any of the funding come through let's say we owe a fund uh for training a specific group of the 16 to 24 age group, which would be good candidates for this program for folks who are looking just to get the workforce credential.
19:16So there's no there's no funding that comes from that pot of money to help the fund the program.
19:24So uh the fast forward fundings are specific funding for specific programs, and uh we owe a funding they might cover.
19:32So, for example, if if a student has one third that they need to pay, and then the one-third and the one-third are covered, but we owe a may pay for that one-third, right?
19:41And that's how a student ends up paying nothing.
19:43So it it all comes from different pots, if you will, right?
19:48And so there's also only specific programs that fast forward covers, but we all may cover other programs that are also considered workforce.
19:56Um, and so all of that funding goes to our workforce completors.
20:00This is just a chart.
20:02Um most of our workforce programs are fast forward, and this covers most of that information.
20:13Very formative, and uh, you know, obviously you all are doing a great job with turning out, you know, uh credential workers for the in-demand jobs in the workforce and uh in the community, the Hampton Rose community.
20:26So continue what you're doing, but uh greatly appreciated, especially relationship with Hampton on the dual uh enrollment program because you know we love being able to brag about the uh number of kids who graduate from VPCC before they graduate from high school.
20:39So we want to continue to be able to do that.
20:41And I think you you have 800 kids from Hampton, that's that what I saw, and the students from Hampton and currently enrolled in dual enrollment.
20:50Yeah, so uh hopefully uh we can get all of them uh to graduate.
20:54That'll certainly run up the numbers.
21:04Mayor, if you're ready for the next item, this is going to be a briefing from senior deputy city attorney, Brandy Law.
21:10As you'll recollect, uh last month you got a presentation from the stakeholder group that we had convened regarding the camping and storage on public property ordinance that you had first seen last year.
21:22We had asked for a stakeholder group made up of people who had, if you will, have been effectively on both sides of the issue, uh, both those who were concerned that the ordinance sought to criminalize the homelessness, which was never the intention, of course, and those who had felt like we needed to have some additional tools to be able to deal with any type of group uh that of individual or groups of people that may be blocking public right aways and causing other sorts of disruptions such as you know doing illicit behaviors there.
21:55And so uh they came to a consensus compromise and gave you a series of recommendations that Ms.
22:02Law has turned into amendments to the proposed ordinance for your consideration.
22:07Law will walk you through the new ordinance that reflects that stakeholder feedback and see if you have any questions or concerns about the new ordinance.
22:16Good afternoon, Brandy.
22:17Good afternoon, it's great to see you all.
22:20Bunting said, I'm senior deputy city attorney Brandy Law.
22:24Um, so I won't give you the full intro and repeat what Ms.
22:28Bunting said, but you may recall from your last presentation from Mr.
22:34Mitchell, that there were three main recommendations from the stakeholder group in regards to changing the previously proposed ordinance, and that was to provide a preamble statement that emphasized that the focus here is on compassionate compliance and not on enforcement.
22:53Um to reclassify the offense.
22:56So previously it was proposed to be a class one misdemeanor, um, which is the highest level of misdemeanor that you can have.
23:04And so this the new proposal will have a lower class of misdemeanor, which I'll get to.
23:10And then also ensuring that resources are provided to the subject before any enforcement actions are taken.
23:20So we did include a preamble in the ordinance, um, which states that wherefore most people will accept housing when it is safe, dignified, and appropriate, a small number repeatedly refuse help because they are deeply traumatized.
23:38For this group, the answer is not simply tolerance nor simple enforcement, it requires balanced strategy.
23:44And wherefore the city will strive to pair persistent outreach with a variety of housing options and insist that public spaces remain safe and usable.
23:53And wherefore when someone's behavior is dangerous or disruptive, the city will address that behavior directly through outreach or co-responder teams and community court programs where possible.
24:06No one has the right to endanger others, and no one should be abandoned.
24:10And wherefore the city's goal is compassionate compliance, protecting the community while never giving up on the individual.
24:17So this will be this is proposed to be the preamble for this ordinance, um, which lays out the city council's intent in adopting this.
24:28So the actual ordinance, the body of the ordinance, and this is a refresher, these um terms are the same as what was previously brought to you last summer.
24:39But to refresh, the ordinance would prohibit anyone from camping, laying or sleeping, or storing items on public property.
24:47Camp is defined as to reside or sleep on public property with or without the use of tents, temporary shelters, vehicles, or equivalents, or is evidenced by the use of beds, blankets, cots, hammocks, mattresses, sleeping bags, tarpaulins, or equivalents, or cooking tools or fire.
25:05There is an exception in the proposed ordinance for any authorized use of public property, such as using the beach, laying on the beach when it's open to the public.
25:17Public property is defined to mean any and all property in which the city of Hampton or another governmental entity has a property interest.
25:25So this would apply to property owned by other governmental entities such as the EDA.
25:34Store is defined in the proposed ordinance to mean accumulating, keeping, leaving, or maintaining personal property on public property for future use or safekeeping.
25:44And there is an exception again for authorized storage of personal property on a government entity's property, or to store property in unoccupied vehicles that are legally parked on the street.
26:19But the city would then hold that property for 30 days.
26:23So anyone who's who believes their property has been seized in this way can contact the city to just to determine if their items are being temporarily stored by the city, and that would be done by contacting 31.
26:40If staff determines that items are trash, garbage, debris, unsanitary, or hazardous, including any weapons, it may be disposed of immediately.
26:52So pursuant to the committee's recommendations, the proposal now is that the first violation of this ordinance would be a class 4 misdemeanor, which is the lowest level of misdemeanor, and is punishable by up to a 250 dollar fine.
27:09A subsequent violation after being convicted, so you're convicted, and then an officer finds you in violation again, would be a class two misdemeanor, which is punishable by up to six months in jail and up to a $1,000 fine.
27:26And the purpose of having that level of misdemeanor is because you have to be charged with it either a class one or a class two misdemeanor in order to qualify for the behavioral health court diversion.
27:45Prior to charging any person under this proposed ordinance, um, the police officer would be required to give such person a verbal warning to see such activity and a reasonable time to comply with their warning.
27:59Now what is reasonable time will be somewhat up to officer discretion as it's currently written.
28:08In discussions with the police chief, it would be our intent to provide officers with guidance on what is reasonable through the use of policies and training for the officers.
28:22But there are situations which may require more or less time depending on the circumstances.
28:31So in addition to the warning, the officer has to provide information on alternative accommodations, such as available homeless shelters or hotels, and public and charitable programs that offer housing assistance.
28:44And the police officer would document that interaction on a field contact card, which is loaded into the police record system.
28:54And with that, I will take any questions.
29:02Um, with the number of unhoused, do we have enough facilities for them to go to?
29:09I think that will be a concern for me, um, not knowing where they can go.
29:16So I can address that.
29:17We don't currently have enough permanent housing for people who are transitioning who have issues that need to be addressed before they're ready for permanent housing.
29:29Um but the council has agreed to put more money in the budget for, for instance, placements into hotels.
29:37So assuming someone were willing to go.
29:40No, most of the time, the audience we're talking about here is not the generic unhoused population.
29:46Most of the people who are in the unhoused population have just simply fallen on bad times.
30:00And most of them are not choosing to block right-aways to camp out to urinate, defecate in public, things like that.
30:07Most of the people that we encounter where we can't, when we go out and they refuse help, are dealing with extreme unresolved trauma, oftentimes addiction issues or mental health issues or both.
30:20And they refuse assistance.
30:21And so this ordinance was really intended, and not just for the homeless to be clear, because there could be other types of groups of people where this might happen, but because people seem most concerned about the unhoused, um, most of the time when we ask them or suggest places they could go, like can we take you to the shelter or can we take you somewhere else, they just simply refuse to leave.
30:46Currently, the police don't have any ability to say you must leave.
30:50So for the benefit of the public, that's what's up.
30:52But if they were to say, yes, I will go somewhere, the question is, do we have a place for them to go?
30:58Council's been gracious enough to agree to put in some money since the money we originally had from COVID and CARES dollars is no longer available.
31:06You all had agreed to set aside money so that if someone said yes, I am willing to go somewhere, we can put them in a hotel while human services works with them to get them whatever they need, whether that's mental health services, uh addiction services, employment services, all of the above.
31:25So that that's how we would address it if someone were willing to leave.
31:29Honestly, if most of these people were willing to leave, we already would have been working with them and placing them.
31:34This ordinance again is more for the last resort when people have simply refused the outreach that we offer and refuse to leave to someplace else that's less obtrusive to neighbors and businesses.
31:47I just want a clarity for the folks that are watching at home.
31:50And I know we've gotten several emails today about it because I think the information being pushed out is that it's just simply a matter of criminalization of the homeless, which it again never has been.
32:00I think the stakeholder committee really debated do you need an ordinance at all?
32:04If you need an ordinance, how do we soften it to make clear that it's a service first approach?
32:09Which is why you see the language that Ms.
32:11Law outlined about you have you do the vertical, you'd have the outreach team, you do these things, and this really becomes, if you will, the measure of last resort for individuals who simply are not willing to cooperate, accept the service, and then are causing those deleterious effects for neighborhoods or businesses.
32:33Other questions, comments.
32:35Um I just one question I had regarding I I know in many cases uh HPD offices will be the first point of contact with complaint and you know issuing the notice of violation uh for sleeping or camping on this public property, and then they're supposed to provide the person after the notice of the violation with something that tells them where they can go to get help.
33:00So, do we have or will we have printed materials that all HPD offices will carry so that we know exactly what number to call, which is hopefully not the housing crisis hotline because you know they they where you get with that, but that's my question is just to make sure all officers are trained and know what we are doing and what we're handing out.
33:23For I'm glad you asked that question just for the benefit of the public watching.
33:26Chief Wideman has indicated that if council does choose to adopt this ordinance, he will develop a detailed training bulletin for all of his officers that will provide exactly like what you described.
33:36First off, the procedure, so that we can document, for instance, that the verbal warning has been issued if it comes to that, so that we can document that the outreach team was called and that we can document that the outreach team did in fact engage for service delivery.
33:52In fact, we prefer that if someone calls into police that the first contact would not be with HPD, it would be with the outreach team.
34:00So the procedure would be get a call, we call out the outreach team, we try to get the outreach team there.
34:06If they encounter difficulty, then they could let police know.
34:09Police would have the leave behind, just as the outreach team would have the leave behind, so that the individual, if they're not willing to accept the service that moment, they would be able to accept the service later.
34:21And in ideal world, if the outreach team goes out there and they're willing to accept service, we're not going to make them call somebody later, we're going to be immediately engaging with them.
34:29But yes, we will have amongst the many tools printed material for folks.
34:34And to your point, you know, I think we've all been a bit frustrated with the housing hotline, which was run and will be run up until June 30th with an outside organization serving all of the regional localities.
34:48But we are all working on a new plan for that because it's really not lived up to the expectations that we've had, and that's not to diminish the organization that's done it, but there the way they did it doesn't really one of the big challenges was that they close earlier, and that many of the times people are calling that number, it's in the evening hours and it's not staffed.
35:00And that's not to diminish the organization that's done it, but there the way they did it doesn't really one of the big challenges was that they close earlier, and that many of the times people are calling that number, it's in the evening hours and it's not staffed.
35:09So when you're dealing with the unhoused population, particularly those who are working, a lot of the unhoused are working.
35:16They just have fallen on hard times, and they they may not have a stable place of of residence, but that doesn't mean they're not working.
35:24So they may be at work during the day, and they try to call the housing hotline and it's closed.
35:28So we're revamping that whole thing.
35:30Um the contract will end in June, and we will have a new service in place as of July 1st.
35:36When I say we, not just Hampton, but Hampton and Newport News are working together on that.
35:41Any other questions, comments from council members?
35:47Mayor, unless there's anything else on either of those items, that's all we had for open session this afternoon.
35:54Are there any regional issues?
35:57Are there any items for new business?
36:00All right, it being none, Madam Clerk, will you read the protocol for or motion required for closed session?
36:07The motion required today is to convene a closed session pursuant to Virginia Code section 2.2-3711 point A point one to discuss appointments as listed on the agenda.
36:30Councilwoman Campbell.
36:32Councilwoman Fairby.
36:33Councilwoman Harper.
36:35Councilwoman Muggler.
36:39And um with that, we will uh convene closed session in the Lawson conference room.
36:46And following the closed session, council will reconvene in the open meeting in the same location in order to certify the closed session and then proceed to adjourn the meeting.
36:55So we will convene in the uh laws and conference room at uh 145.