Thank you.

Aloha, good afternoon.

It is one thirty-seven, and I call the committee on budget back to order.

Members, we will continue on page eight of our operating budget proposed amendments for CD2 worksheets.

And starting on page eight through page sixteen, we have with public safety the Honolulu Police Department.

Thank you so much for being here.

I do not see acting chief Raddy Vanick.

Oh, I'm sorry, Major Hironaka.

You're here.

Thank you so much for being here with us.

And I'm not sure if you heard earlier.

We're just asking the departments to give about a three-minute overview, and then the members can ask questions following that.

Aloha, good afternoon, Major Hiranaka.

Good afternoon, budget chair, Okimoto, Chair Waters, and the rest of the council.

Um I'm Ryan Hironaka, major of Honolulu Police Department's finance division.

So in review of the amendments proposed for CD2, the department believes it'll address the major concerns we had with the amendments that went into CD1.

And we will, if it goes in this form, the department will work with the budget that is outlined as is for the CD2.

And with that, I'm open for any questions.

Thank you, Major Hiran Akawa music to our ears.

Thank you very much.

Council Member Tupola.

Thank you so much.

I was just gonna say that.

And I did meet with Chief Bannock so that I resolved all of you guys' concerns.

We're here to help, we're here to support.

We want you guys to succeed.

We definitely have uh talked through a lot of needed changes, and the department is not against those changes.

It's just how we work through it.

So he did agree that come July we'll have a resolution so that you guys can regularly update the council on how the funds were expended to execute the different initiatives from the vacancy task force.

So I just thank you guys very much for you know being forthright with me and hearing my thoughts as well and working with me to move forward because I think all of us uh want the same goal.

So thank you very much.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Councilmember Tupola, Councilmember DeSantis Tam.

Thank you, Chair.

Um, with regard to the structure of uh the various bonus programs that are here, it's structured as one thousand upon the recruit successful completion of the academy and one thousand upon completion of one year of service.

Uh, given that the budget is uh for one year, would that second thousand dollars need to be encumbered by July thirtieth of twenty twenty-seven?

Or are we now expecting us to have to fund the second installment in the FY28 budget?

It will likely have to be funded in the future years when the benchmark is hit.

Okay, got it.

Thank you, Councilmember DeSantis Tam, Council Member Cordero.

Thank you, Caro Kimoto.

Hi, Major Hiranaka.

Um, unfortunately, I don't agree uh with uh the uh proposed budget and CD two for HPD.

I do think that uh we can look to make further uh appropriations in supporting our community policing.

I know that we've had many discussions, um, including uh with your other majors uh in your division to discuss um how we can continue to support community policing.

Um I know it's not um in the accepted amendments, but I do uh note that our community policing, they're used beyond community policing.

I know that we've had many discussions including uh with your other majors uh in your division to discuss um how we can continue to support community policing um I know it's not um in the accepted amendments but I do uh note that our community policing they're used beyond community policing they're used for enforcement traffic special events and wherever you need them but um especially where the focus should be uh on enforcement and special events and all those materials they they also are focused on direct contact with our community so that's why I uh would make that recommend that recommendation every single year and whether it makes it in this year I will still continue continue to support it because um that direct connection to uh the community is uh what continues a strong uh strong partnership that HPD has and the perspective of HPD that HPD has um to the greater community and especially in place like Kalihi has continued to uh grow and get better um year after year decade after decade and even with the 2800 for all the uh eight patrol districts would go to just bettering so I just wanted to make that note thank you chair thank you councilmember cordero major did you have any response uh regarding the CPT or in general in general um no not in general at this time but we do appreciate the consideration that this council puts into um our input regarding the changes that are proposed when they are proposed I thank you very much I do want to thank you the department as well as Councilmember Tupola and her office I know you guys worked really closely and and um you met with my office as well I tried really hard to hear everybody's um points of view and take that into consideration so I'm thankful for the collaboration that the department gave us and thankful again it was music to my ears to have a department come up and say thank you we were we worked with you guys and we're willing to work with what you guys have presented to us.

With regards to the CPT I know we had we had talked about this and I do appreciate Councilmember Cordero putting that in that's also a very um special part of the district in my area as well but I wanted to make sure that we didn't cut the funding for that although in talking with you guys we wanted to make sure that we kept the funding in place but also be mindful so I I did not accept the extended um or the amendments to increase the amount but I I do concur with Councilmember Cordero that that is a very important part of our committees.

Thank you again for working with us um any follow-up councilmember Tupola?

Yeah briefly um I do think that as we push through and a new chief is chosen or whatever happens admin-wise that I've started discussions but again when new administration comes we can solidify this about deciding whether or not some of the portions of what CPT does should be 89 day contract hires should be contracted as opposed to having full-time patrol officers be in that role so that there is a good use of money but that we're leaving our patrol officers for actually responding to cases I would agree CPT is a huge part of our community but how we expend those funds is something that I hope we can look into next year for the budget.

I do support them and thank them for all that they do but thank you thank you chair thank you council member Tupola any further discussion members thank you major hiranaka thank you.

The chair will be accepting the amendments to HPD as listed on pages eight through 16 chair I just have discussion item on that part.

Oh I'm sorry okay go ahead council oh sorry discussion on just the acceptance um I do want to note I know and I do recognize Major Hiranaka mentioned in CD1 um that they are looking to hopefully lapse not even close to 20 million dollars but um in but we do I do have to note that HD did lapse 20 million two hundred eighty three thousand fifty five dollars seventy eight cents in fiscal year 2025 and in fiscal year 2024 uh 44 million four hundred thousand dollars six hundred twenty five dollars and thirty nine cents and I think that 20 uh 80 238 dollars uh 238000 dedicated to our community policing wouldn't take away from such a such big lapses whether they lapse a million or 500 thousand dollars or even a hundred thousand dollars so um I just wanted to note that um and also uh we'll continue to keep watching how much they lapse but we keep allowing HPD to be egregious with their lapses compared in comparison like 20 of our city agencies can fit within though those lapses so I just want to note that thank you thank you council member cordero any further discussion before you move on past HPD no okay thank you major hiranaka and again the chair will be accepting the amendments to HPD as listed on pages eight through 16 moving on to the top of page 17 from the Department of Emergency Management I believe I do see with us director ran Randall Collins aloha and good afternoon Director Collins Aloha thank you for having me Council Chair uh Okamoto and uh council members thank you for having me today um I know that in this particular uh amendment that uh we've added 3000 for the uh uh flood mitigation monitoring activities or system and that is uh I think you all know I'm very supportive of that particular initiative and want to see that come to fruition that being said I would uh ask you to consider that uh knowing that I've already allocated uh million dollars to that particular

Council Chair Okamoto and Council members, thank you for having me today.

That uh we've added 300,000 for the uh flood mitigation monitoring activities or system.

And that is uh I think you all know I'm very supportive of that particular initiative and want to see that come to fruition.

That being said, I would uh ask you to consider that uh knowing that I've already allocated uh million dollars to that particular project through the Urban Area Security Initiative, and also knowing that that kind of change has impacts on the other city agencies, uh, with also a focus on understanding that our uh disaster provisional fund, uh, which is very critical for us to conduct emergency operations, especially in the immediate aftermath of uh any type of uh emergency that we may have, which if we reinstitute that has no impact on all the other departments.

Um we can still use the UASI money for the flood mitigation project, and then I would still ask that you consider um council member uh Kia Aina's uh proposal to add uh five positions uh on top of the eight that's already coming.

Those positions are incredibly vital as we learned in the CONALO storms.

Um my staff is so limited in what we can do, especially in back-to-back operations that go on for in this case uh almost two months or more.