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Horry County Public Safety Committee Meeting - October 14, 2025

County CouncilTuesday, October 14, 2025
BodyHorry County, South Carolina
SessionCounty Council
DateTuesday, October 14, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:01

To order October 14th, 2025.

0:04

And as always, we'll do the appreciation.

0:11

Apollo, thank you for this day.

0:13

Help us and guide us in direction to do the best we can and make the best decisions for the people of Novek County.

0:20

We thank you for this county, and we ask that you keep all of our first responders safe and out of harm's way.

0:25

All this amen.

0:35

Which it stands one nation under individual with liberty and justice for all we have no public input.

0:46

And we're approval of agenda content.

0:49

So moved.

0:50

Second.

0:51

All in favor?

0:53

Approval minutes for September 9th, 2025.

0:57

Seconded.

0:59

All in favor?

1:01

All right.

1:01

We'll start with our resolutions to express the counties council desire to limit residential rezoning for density.

1:08

Mr.

1:08

Randy Girls.

1:10

So thank you, Mr.

1:10

Chairman members of councils, our committee.

1:13

Um so I'd like to bring you something to consider as as we continue to work through rezonings and growth throughout the county.

1:21

So my this resolution is also tied into number three on the discussion items for today.

1:27

Uh as we start looking at public safety and the growth over the next number of years, including our tenure plan that we have uh provided to council now for a number of each year update.

1:38

Um we we need to start taking I would like for us to start taking a look at how can we manage some of the rezonings in the areas that will begin to give us the most concern for fire coverage, being the areas that are only staffed with volunteer stations and also areas that are in our ISO 10 areas of the county still that we have uh and the ISO 10 section is what basically means you may not get insurance at all for your house.

2:09

Um but the volunteers we we have a great group of volunteers that work very hard, but they have their limitations as well during daytime as well as as evenings, it's not like it used to be.

2:23

So we do supplement those calls with the closest career station that gets on the way, but it is a time response time issue.

2:30

Uh and so just something that we've been talking about.

2:33

I would like the committee to consider.

2:36

And we did put together a resolution uh to kind of look at that to not stop it, but maybe have second thoughts on it, maybe the way to look at it, or what can be done because the problem is we got to be able to fund, and it's not so much building the stations as it is the annual salary requirements for the career folks, which could be you know one and a half million or more depending on what needs to be in there over the course of forever.

3:04

Um so I know we've had some offer to build stations for us, but that's even though that's hard, that's the easiest part.

3:11

Uh so that's that's and then looking along at that line, just also with the law and for law enforcement side, we continue to grow our needs are continuing to be tremendous.

3:22

Um you're seeing a lot of things changing in the communities, juvenile is a big piece.

3:28

We've started to look at that with our uh efforts from the chief and behavioral services group uh and looking at a lot of different things, but still we still got to consider the growth of patrol officers and how we're going to continue to handle uh the growth as it moves more west, because that's where we have the fewest number of officers covering the largest area.

3:53

So it's a little bit of a soapbox thing for you all from my perspective, but any questions I'm all for it, by the way.

4:04

Let me say that, but don't we need to?

4:08

Well, first of all, finding getting personnel for fire departments, police departments becoming harder and harder and harder.

4:15

Absolutely.

4:17

So I mean it's not that we can't build a station, you can get brick and mortar, but once you build a station, how do you man it?

4:24

Well, that's that's a national problem, especially more so on the law enforcement side than the fire, but it's difficult on both of them.

4:30

Um and that's something else I think we're going to have to have some other considerations on as we move forward too, because we're taking all the steps that we can not just salaries, but work environment, equipment, you know, the best things that we can provide our officers in the street, but we still struggle to find people to fill those spots.

4:51

Exactly.

4:52

Just the environment we're in.

4:53

And it's not just Ory County, it's all over the county, it's all over the South Carolina, it's all over the country.

5:00

Fire were a little luckier in some aspects, but it's still not easy.

5:04

And even in the 911 side, we just did 21 new hires, and we've already lost three.

5:10

It's just sometimes it's just not the best fit in that environment.

5:14

So and that's the truth, all public safety.

5:16

So I know we'll talk a little more about it at the fall retreat in more detail.

5:21

But this one in particular issue though with the fire, I think, is something that officer.

5:27

Right.

5:28

We do have the resolution if you need Mr.

5:30

George to do it or anything.

5:34

You wanted to now or yeah, yeah.

5:39

The western part of the county, Tom's district, owls, mine, and part of Mark's.

5:54

And there's rule fire.

5:57

You know, it's not manned stations.

6:00

Um ISO 10 rating, it makes your insurance higher, but in some cases, the insurance companies won't even insure.

6:07

And if you've got a bank loan on your home, and your insurance counsel, then the bank's going, you you better be making some fast arrangements, or they're going to cancel you alone.

6:17

So it's it's a problem that's with the western part growing the way it's growing, and something that we are definitely going to have to address.

6:25

Mr.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety█████████████████████████████████████████████86%
Procedural███5%
Growth and Quality of Life██4%
Fiscal Sustainability██3%
Capital Improvement Planning2%
Summary of Proceedings

Horry County Public Safety Committee Meeting - October 14, 2025

The Horry County Public Safety Committee met on October 14, 2025, to discuss growth-related public safety challenges, hear updates from the fire and police departments, and consider a resolution to limit residential rezoning for density in areas with limited fire coverage. The meeting included presentations, a committee vote, and updates on major projects.

Discussion Items

  • Resolution to Limit Residential Rezoning for Density: Mr. Randy Girls presented a resolution aiming to discourage residential rezoning in areas served only by volunteer fire stations and in ISO 10 rating zones, where insurance may be unavailable. He highlighted difficulties in staffing career stations and the growing demand in western Horry County. Committee members expressed strong support, noting the need to address fire coverage and public safety funding, including a potential local option sales tax. A motion to advance the resolution to full council was made, seconded, and passed unanimously.
  • Fire Prevention Week and Community Risk Reduction: The Fire Chief (referenced as Chief Ten or CTRERS in transcript) reported on Fire Prevention Week activities focused on lithium-ion battery safety. He provided statistics: fire calls rose from 13,000 in 2023 to 15,000 in 2024, with 14,000 calls as of September 30, 2025 (a 9% increase over 2024). EMS calls comprised 82% of incidents. The department has 600+ career members, 150+ volunteers, 41 stations, and 130 apparatus. Key accomplishments included training over 2,000 individuals on overdose response, hosting the largest-ever Metro Fire Chiefs conference with delegates from 11 countries, expanding the drone program, implementing a whole blood program for transport ambulances, and being designated a Fire Safe Community for the fourth consecutive year. Future plans include fire station construction (Station 6 and Station 31), recruit academies, and pursuit of AFG and prevention grants.
  • Bike Rally Update: Police Chief Lilhard reported that the fall bike rally saw reduced enforcement: 120 total violations in 2025, down from 189 in 2024. Crowd sizes increased as the weekend progressed. He also noted upcoming trunk-or-treat and Halloween events.
  • Public Safety Training Facility: The committee received an update that land clearing has begun at the site near the RSW Building and Animal Care Center. The first phase includes a driving track and concrete pad for fire rescue training, with a master plan for future expansion. A groundbreaking ceremony is expected later in the month.

Key Outcomes

  • The committee voted unanimously to forward the resolution on limiting residential rezoning for density to the full Horry County Council for consideration.
  • The committee acknowledged the fire and police department reports and thanked staff for their efforts.
  • The next committee meeting was scheduled for November 4, 2025.

Meeting Transcript

To order October 14th, 2025. And as always, we'll do the appreciation. Apollo, thank you for this day. Help us and guide us in direction to do the best we can and make the best decisions for the people of Novek County. We thank you for this county, and we ask that you keep all of our first responders safe and out of harm's way. All this amen. Which it stands one nation under individual with liberty and justice for all we have no public input. And we're approval of agenda content. So moved. Second. All in favor? Approval minutes for September 9th, 2025. Seconded. All in favor? All right. We'll start with our resolutions to express the counties council desire to limit residential rezoning for density. Mr. Randy Girls. So thank you, Mr. Chairman members of councils, our committee. Um so I'd like to bring you something to consider as as we continue to work through rezonings and growth throughout the county. So my this resolution is also tied into number three on the discussion items for today. Uh as we start looking at public safety and the growth over the next number of years, including our tenure plan that we have uh provided to council now for a number of each year update. Um we we need to start taking I would like for us to start taking a look at how can we manage some of the rezonings in the areas that will begin to give us the most concern for fire coverage, being the areas that are only staffed with volunteer stations and also areas that are in our ISO 10 areas of the county still that we have uh and the ISO 10 section is what basically means you may not get insurance at all for your house. Um but the volunteers we we have a great group of volunteers that work very hard, but they have their limitations as well during daytime as well as as evenings, it's not like it used to be. So we do supplement those calls with the closest career station that gets on the way, but it is a time response time issue. Uh and so just something that we've been talking about. I would like the committee to consider. And we did put together a resolution uh to kind of look at that to not stop it, but maybe have second thoughts on it, maybe the way to look at it, or what can be done because the problem is we got to be able to fund, and it's not so much building the stations as it is the annual salary requirements for the career folks, which could be you know one and a half million or more depending on what needs to be in there over the course of forever. Um so I know we've had some offer to build stations for us, but that's even though that's hard, that's the easiest part. Uh so that's that's and then looking along at that line, just also with the law and for law enforcement side, we continue to grow our needs are continuing to be tremendous. Um you're seeing a lot of things changing in the communities, juvenile is a big piece. We've started to look at that with our uh efforts from the chief and behavioral services group uh and looking at a lot of different things, but still we still got to consider the growth of patrol officers and how we're going to continue to handle uh the growth as it moves more west, because that's where we have the fewest number of officers covering the largest area. So it's a little bit of a soapbox thing for you all from my perspective, but any questions I'm all for it, by the way. Let me say that, but don't we need to? Well, first of all, finding getting personnel for fire departments, police departments becoming harder and harder and harder. Absolutely. So I mean it's not that we can't build a station, you can get brick and mortar, but once you build a station, how do you man it? Well, that's that's a national problem, especially more so on the law enforcement side than the fire, but it's difficult on both of them. Um and that's something else I think we're going to have to have some other considerations on as we move forward too, because we're taking all the steps that we can not just salaries, but work environment, equipment, you know, the best things that we can provide our officers in the street, but we still struggle to find people to fill those spots. Exactly. Just the environment we're in. And it's not just Ory County, it's all over the county, it's all over the South Carolina, it's all over the country. Fire were a little luckier in some aspects, but it's still not easy. And even in the 911 side, we just did 21 new hires, and we've already lost three. It's just sometimes it's just not the best fit in that environment. So and that's the truth, all public safety. So I know we'll talk a little more about it at the fall retreat in more detail. But this one in particular issue though with the fire, I think, is something that officer. Right.

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