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Huntington Beach Planning Commission – March 25, 2025: Appeal of Security Fence CUP

City CouncilTuesday, March 25, 2025
BodyHuntington Beach, California
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, March 25, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:04

Planning commission meeting to order.

0:08

Welcome to the uh March 2025 Huntington Beach planning, March 25th, 2025 Planning Commission meeting.

0:16

While the Planning Commission welcomes public involvement and free speech, it rejects comments from anyone that are discriminatory, defamatory, or otherwise not protected speech.

0:27

Those comments will not inform nor be considered by the planning commission and may cause the chair to interrupt the speaker.

0:34

Such comments will not be consented or otherwise adopted by the planning commission in its discussions and findings for any matters tonight.

0:42

Thank you.

0:44

All right, I would like to call on uh Commissioner McGee for uh Pledge of Allegiance.

0:49

Please stand.

0:49

Please stand on face the flag and put your right hand over your heart for the Pledge of Allegiance.

0:56

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America for which stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty, justice for all.

1:12

Okay, may we have a roll call, please.

1:15

Wood.

1:17

Here.

1:18

Bellman is absent.

1:19

Vice Chair Bush.

1:20

Here.

1:21

Chair Thinas.

1:22

Present.

1:23

Babano.

1:24

Here.

1:24

Goldberg.

1:25

Here.

1:26

McGee.

1:26

Here.

1:27

We have a quorum.

1:28

Okay.

1:29

Uh now is the time for public comments for items that are not on the agenda tonight.

1:34

Do we have any uh public comments for items not on the agenda?

1:38

We do.

1:38

We have Antoinette Del Pearl.

1:40

And I just want to make sure Perry Clitheroe, if you are planning on speaking on public comments as opposed to the public hearing, please come down as well.

1:46

I was gonna do both.

2:03

Good evening.

2:04

I'm Antoinette Del Peral, and um I wasn't sure if this was the right meeting, but I thought I better go ahead and start.

2:13

The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra.

2:20

And the little extra that I'm here for is actually celebrating Veterans Day.

2:25

I'm shocked and saddened that our little city, Huntington Beach, one of the most famous cities in our country, that has and requires ID to vote.

2:39

We do not celebrate Veterans Day anymore.

2:44

I was shocked and saddened.

2:46

As of January 2024, I found out that there is no more celebration of Veterans Day in this city.

2:54

And the only way I found out is last Veterans Day, 2024.

3:01

Our whole area there in the condominium complex I am involved in and where I live, we had it fumigated.

3:12

I call the police department as well as Caltrans to make sure that it's going to be legal to park on these streets because there's going to be hundreds of parking spots not available to us for five days.

3:26

And when I did that, Huntington Beach uh November the 4th and 5th, I spoke to the parking division, and they said, don't worry about it.

3:36

It's a holiday, and that's what I thought.

3:38

I had business, I had to go away.

3:40

Came back on November the 12th.

3:43

I had a ticket.

3:45

I paid the ticket, tried to appeal it.

3:48

I didn't win.

3:49

But what really saddened me is that there is no more Veterans Day, and I want you guys to know, and I promise to come to a other type of uh city meeting that the council people are here as well and the mayor.

4:03

Thank you so much.

4:06

Thank thank you.

4:06

Next speaker, please.

4:08

Good evening, Planning Commissioners.

4:10

Thank you for hearing us this evening.

4:11

My name is Perry Clitheroe, and I'm here in opposition to tonight's meeting.

4:16

Uh the only valid item on the agenda is approving the meeting minutes from February 11th, and I think that could have been done next time.

4:22

And the other item on the agenda is really stupid.

4:25

I'm not sure if staff is salaried or not, but regardless of whether we're wasting their time or our money, uh, I think this is a wasteful exercise, and I'm angered to see property owners harassed like over such a petty issue in the United States of America.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Planning and Zoning█████████████████████████████████████████████71%
Public Comments█████8%
Procedural████7%
Public Safety████7%
Veterans Affairs██3%
Historic Preservation██3%
Homelessness1%
Summary of Proceedings

Huntington Beach Planning Commission Meeting – March 25, 2025

The Huntington Beach Planning Commission met on Tuesday, March 25, 2025, at 6:00 PM in Room B-7 of the Civic Center. The main agenda item was a public hearing on an appeal of the Zoning Administrator's approval of Conditional Use Permit No. 24-026 for a six-foot-tall wrought iron security fence at 625 and 627 Main Street. After hearing public testimony and deliberation, the Commission voted 3-2 to uphold the approval with an added condition prohibiting outside storage and limiting overnight parking.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes Approval: The Commission unanimously approved the minutes of the February 11, 2025 meeting (6 ayes, 1 abstention).

Public Comments & Testimony

Non-Agenda Public Comments:

  • Antoinette Del Peral expressed disappointment that the city no longer celebrates Veterans Day and shared a personal story about receiving a parking ticket on that holiday.
  • Perry Clitheroe opposed the meeting itself, calling the only substantive agenda item "really stupid" and arguing that property owners are being harassed by excessive government regulation.
  • Kelly Frankowise, a former chaplain, requested that the city install a convex mirror at the intersection of Lake and Palm to improve visibility for drivers.

Public Hearing – Appeal of CUP No. 24-026 (17 speakers):

  • Supporters: Rick Wood (applicant’s representative) described the need for security due to vagrancy and the sensitive data handled by the escrow business. Amy Whitaker (property owner) explained the significant investment in the property and the necessity of the fence for safety and compliance. Blythe Curren (employee) spoke about personal safety working late. Thomas Pence, Deborah Struthers, Liz Kirksey, Perry Clitheroe, Kim Kramer, Bob Bowlin, Howard Kettler, Dave (last name not given), and Jason Moberly Caruso (attorney) all supported the fence, citing improved aesthetics, reduced nuisance activity, and compatibility with the neighborhood’s mixed character. Several noted that neighboring residents across the street directly support the project.
  • Opponents: Vanessa Martinez (property owner on the block) argued the fence is out of character for historic Main Street and that two neighbors who initially supported it have since withdrawn support. Diana Zimmer questioned the security justification, noting no police reports of incidents. Maria Martinez and Michael Martinez (property owners) expressed concerns about declining property values and setting a precedent for industrial-style fencing. In total, four speakers opposed the project.

Discussion Items

25-035 Appeal of Zoning Administrator’s Approval of CUP No. 24-026 (Tiempo Security Fence)

  • The appeal was filed by Councilman Don Kennedy, arguing the fence is incompatible with the residential character of the 600 block of Main Street. Staff presented that the property is a commercially zoned irregular lot, previously operated as a mortuary and now a business escrow office. The proposed fence exceeds the 42-inch front setback height limit and encroaches on visibility triangles and stacking distance. The Zoning Administrator approved the CUP on November 20, 2024, after finding the project complies with the General Plan. The Commission reviewed staff analysis showing that similar fence height exceptions have been approved elsewhere in the city (e.g., post office at 8 ft, 618 Huntington Street at 5.5 ft).
  • Commissioner Wood recused himself due to prior conversations with Councilman Kennedy and the applicant. Commissioner Pellman was absent. Several commissioners initially expressed concerns about setting a precedent and encroaching on setbacks, but after hearing from many neighbors in favor and noting the significant improvements to the property, the majority leaned toward approval. Commissioner Goldberg moved to add a condition prohibiting outside storage and limiting overnight parking (less than 5 days). This was approved via straw vote (4 ayes, 1 abstention, 1 absent).

Key Outcomes

  • Motion to Approve CUP 24-026: The Commission approved the conditional use permit with the added condition (no outside storage, limited overnight parking). The vote was 3 ayes (Commissioners Bush, Goldberg, McGee) and 2 nays (Chair Thienes, Commissioner Babineau). Commissioner Wood abstained (recused); Commissioner Pellman absent. The decision is final unless appealed to the City Council within 10 calendar days.
  • Next Meeting: The next regular Planning Commission meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, April 8, 2025, but may be canceled if no items are agendized.

Meeting Transcript

Planning commission meeting to order. Welcome to the uh March 2025 Huntington Beach planning, March 25th, 2025 Planning Commission meeting. While the Planning Commission welcomes public involvement and free speech, it rejects comments from anyone that are discriminatory, defamatory, or otherwise not protected speech. Those comments will not inform nor be considered by the planning commission and may cause the chair to interrupt the speaker. Such comments will not be consented or otherwise adopted by the planning commission in its discussions and findings for any matters tonight. Thank you. All right, I would like to call on uh Commissioner McGee for uh Pledge of Allegiance. Please stand. Please stand on face the flag and put your right hand over your heart for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America for which stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty, justice for all. Okay, may we have a roll call, please. Wood. Here. Bellman is absent. Vice Chair Bush. Here. Chair Thinas. Present. Babano. Here. Goldberg. Here. McGee. Here. We have a quorum. Okay. Uh now is the time for public comments for items that are not on the agenda tonight. Do we have any uh public comments for items not on the agenda? We do. We have Antoinette Del Pearl. And I just want to make sure Perry Clitheroe, if you are planning on speaking on public comments as opposed to the public hearing, please come down as well. I was gonna do both. Good evening. I'm Antoinette Del Peral, and um I wasn't sure if this was the right meeting, but I thought I better go ahead and start. The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra. And the little extra that I'm here for is actually celebrating Veterans Day. I'm shocked and saddened that our little city, Huntington Beach, one of the most famous cities in our country, that has and requires ID to vote. We do not celebrate Veterans Day anymore. I was shocked and saddened. As of January 2024, I found out that there is no more celebration of Veterans Day in this city. And the only way I found out is last Veterans Day, 2024. Our whole area there in the condominium complex I am involved in and where I live, we had it fumigated. I call the police department as well as Caltrans to make sure that it's going to be legal to park on these streets because there's going to be hundreds of parking spots not available to us for five days. And when I did that, Huntington Beach uh November the 4th and 5th, I spoke to the parking division, and they said, don't worry about it. It's a holiday, and that's what I thought. I had business, I had to go away. Came back on November the 12th. I had a ticket. I paid the ticket, tried to appeal it. I didn't win.

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