0:05Welcome as I call to order the Jebruary 17th regular city council meeting.
0:13We have some guests with us tonight.
0:16Girl Scout Troop 67, did you say?
0:24647, 647 is here, and they are going to lead the Pledge of Allegiance.
0:31So if you rise with me, I'll give the invocation and then we'll allow the ladies to uh provide the lead the Pledge of Allegiance.
0:40Our Heavenly Father, as we bless uh bless us as we consider the agenda in front of us tonight.
0:45Give us the wisdom to act with compassion and vision for what is best for the community.
0:49Bless and watch over our public safety officers and the community serve.
1:06To the flag of the United States of America.
1:09And for which it stands, one nation, very odd, and indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
1:25And ladies, Girl Scouts was always a huge thing within my family.
1:32It was very important.
1:33Both my daughters went through, both my daughters earned their gold award.
1:37It was exceedingly rewarding for them.
1:40And your ability to work together as a community, your well, your ability to reach out to the community are all things that you can learn and will learn within within the scouting tradition.
1:53So I really appreciate you coming out and visiting with us today, and we welcome you.
2:01Turn the time over to City Secretary for Roll Call and Certification Quorum.
2:06Mayor Pro Tim Elizabeth Abraham?
2:09Deputy Mayor Pro Tim Janay Butler.
2:11Councilmember Place 2, Scott Smith.
2:14Councilmember Place 3, Andrew Chase?
2:16Councilmember Place 4, Ken Oldman.
2:19Councilmember Place 5, Laura Gill?
2:21Mayor certify the presence of a quorum.
2:28Next on the agenda of public comments.
2:30This is the time we set aside an agenda to allow residents to adjust council.
2:34I'm an item not on the agenda this evening.
2:37Do you have some talking points that I want to provide before we kind of move into the public comments?
2:47As elected officials, we are here to listen to you.
2:49We recognize you, the people have a First Amendment and tax Texas statutory right to speak at public meetings.
2:56City has consistently placed an agenda item on the City Council and Planning and Zoning Commission meeting agendas for public comments.
3:03The city, its officials, and its employees will act upon and consider only objective, non-discriminator reasons and factors and compelling government purposes for all city business, including land use issues.
3:15The city, its officials and its employees will not consider any discrimination in any way, including religious discrimination.
3:23The city, its officials, and its employees will treat all persons and property owners equally with that.
3:30I do have a number of public comment forms.
3:42So starting off, we're going to start with Mr.
5:00The first column shows a comparison of sales tax receipts for October, November, and December to the same months in FY25, and each month contains four characters.
5:10This is in the first column, four characters for a total of twelve characters.
5:16Five of the characters are incorrect.
5:18Five of twelve are over 40% are wrong.
5:25These folks are the ones making recommendations for tax and fee changes.
5:29The slide also shows the projected revenue versus actuals for the previous years and the projected value of F for FY26.
5:38The estimated annual value for FY26 is 134,000 less than FY25 actual.
5:47And some and the uh some 50,000 less than the previous three year average.
5:54Whenever expenses are unreasonably inflated, and a probable future revenue is omitted, then a recommendation to increase taxes and fees will follow.
6:08I believe this is the case for the stormwater fee increase.
6:11In the last meeting I requested to meet meet with each of you, since each of you approved the fee increase and should know all of the details.
6:21I wish to see the data that substantiates the projected expenses, where the stormwater fund balance was incorporated into the analysis, and why an estimate for future revenue increases for new construction was not included.
6:36None of you contacted me to set up a meeting.
6:41I contacted two members, and one was given and one has given me hope of a meeting, while the other did not respond.
6:51In fact, that member has never responded to any of the uh any of the numerous emails I have sent.
7:01Both have filed for re-election.
7:04If a council member does not respond to the concerns of the residents, why is that person on council?
7:10And why should anyone vote for that person?
7:13I look forward to hearing from each of you to set up a meeting regarding the details of the stormwater fee increase.
7:21Thank you for your attention.
7:26Next is uh Jan Stormont.
7:46Hello, each and every one of you.
7:51I moved here four years ago from California and just love Murphy.
7:57We moved here with six other families who are scattered all over uh McKinney, but we wanted to live in the country.
8:04And I tell you, I've never met more friendly people in my life.
8:07I have to plan 30 extra minutes no matter what errand I'm running, just so I can talk to people.
8:13With that, I've been a little bit disillusioned with the last couple of years.
8:18We've been infiltrated.
8:20And I'm a little bit nervous.
8:23With that, I have to remind each and every one of you, your elected officials, your elected officials to represent Olive Murphy.
8:31You are to uphold the Constitution.
8:34With that, this is the set of laws that the U.S.
8:38was started and founded on.
8:41With that, I don't believe that the Muslims are a peaceful religion, as they'd like to make you believe.
8:50This is a political ideology masking as a religion.
8:55With that, their agenda, and this can be researched online, it can be researched on social media, that their agenda is to infiltrate, populate, dominate.
9:09They do not want to assimilate.
9:13Jan, uh we there are there are land use issues that they're happy to talk about, and I know there are concerns that happen on both sides of this conversation.
9:26Uh I I want you to feel like you're you're capable of uh of being heard.
9:33Young ladies and their parents are taking them out today, uh out here who came to visit with us.
9:40So I guess we try to focus a little bit more on kind of what the outcome that you'd like.
10:00I guess what I'm trying to wrap up real quick is if we look at examples like Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Somalia, Syria, and the UK, just as examples that we're faced with the same decisions you're faced with right now in the little town of Murphy, and what's happened to all of those countries.
10:14Okay, that's that's scary.
10:16So I understand what you're saying.
10:19I'm not going to go through all of you know that I might plan to, but I just want to leave you with one story that is the true story of my neighbor who was born in Iran.
10:32She was about six years old when they captured her dad when the Islamic Republic took over.
10:38They put him in prison.
10:40They tried to force him to become a Muslim.
10:44And when he didn't, they killed him.
10:47Then her mother knew I have to take my children and I have to flee the country, or we're going to be subject to the same thing.
10:54They froze her assets, and she was a doctor.
10:57So by God's grace, she got through the embassy, and the UN helped her get to the United States.
11:04And this is one of my neighbors.
11:06This is what I'm asking all of you.
11:08Please search her souls.
11:10We love our Muslim brothers and sisters.
11:14We just don't like the ideology because it's not assimilating with our constitutional rights.
11:22And that's that's basically what I want to say.
11:25So thank you very much for coming in.
11:52Um I'll just like to spend some time addressing some of the things that was said at the last meeting and clear up any misleading comments or misconceptions.
12:00Uh Yuri spoke on this, but first I'd like to speak to the calls to limit free speech.
12:05The council is unable to speak on the issues presented during the comments, as they well understand and made clear to us during the meeting.
12:11This forum is a perfect example of utilizing our right to free speech.
12:14We appreciate you upholding these laws.
12:17I also wanted to speak to the feelings some shit at the last meeting of being fearful.
12:23There would be no threats of violence, and no one in the community should feel unsafe.
12:27Fear is not being sowed by those that spoke at the meeting during January, and no one in the community would condone any threats of violence or intimidation.
12:38I didn't even want to mention this, but I I had to say something about it.
12:42Someone also made the outrageous claim that at a previous meeting uh it was similar to the lead up to the Holocaust, which I didn't even want to breathe life into such a ridiculous claim, but it was just such such an absurd thing to say.
12:55Um also a comparison of the number of mosques in nearby cities to the number of churches.
13:02Although comparisons can be made to the current number, the number of mosques being built versus churches in recent years is substantial.
13:10What many people were sharing their thoughts on was how rapidly things were changing, which is a concern that they had the right to share as a member of the community.
13:19I want to remind everyone here that this is the perfect opportunity for members of the community to come and share their opinions on what is happening in our city.
13:28It can also it cannot be ignored how large of an impact the new developments will have on our city.
13:34It will significantly add to the already heavy traffic flow in the area, which will affect the safety of the residents and all the students in the area.
13:42I urge the committee to work to preserve the closeness and safety of our community.
13:49It is also worth mentioning again the fact that the community so far has been developed to be segregated and only allow members of this lit group to be included.
13:58Our community, as I understand it, is always accepting of others' cultures and does not exclude others from any other areas of the community.
14:06All members of the community should be allowed to venture and buy houses where they wish.
14:11Whether it has been written down or not is irrelevant when in practice we can see segregated practices.
14:17Thank you for your time.
14:23That's the last form I have.
14:25Is there anyone else who would like to address counsel tonight?
14:33Please provide your name and address for the record, please.
14:37My name is Christine, and I live at 409 Shady Oaks, Murphy Drive.
14:41And I have been a homeowner in Murphy for six years.
14:45I'm here today to respectfully voice my opposition to the Islamic mosque development in Murphy.
14:52The United States was founded on the principles of freedom and local self-governance.
15:00These values require us to protect our constitutional rights and carefully consider how large developments affect the character, infrastructure, and well-being of our community.
15:08I want to be very clear that I hold no hostility or prejudice towards individuals of any faith.
15:15My concerns are about the scale, location, and impact that building a mosque on North Murphy and McMillan Road would have on our town.
15:24We have already seen how large religious centers in nearby cities had significantly altered local demographics, traffic patterns, school capacity, and the businesses in our community.
15:36It is not Islamophobic to point these changes in our community out.
15:40It is basic pattern recognition.
15:43American values include open dialogue, accountability, and the right for citizens to question developments that will reshape our town.
15:52Wanting to preserve the culture of our community, ensure public safety, and maintain responsible growth is not intolerance, it's civic engagement.
16:02Today I would like to ask the council to please delay the approval of this project until all of the residents of Murphy are made aware of what is happening in our city and give residents a chance to voice their opinions.
16:14Of the 13 families I have spoken to about the mosque, only two had any idea of its development.
16:23To my neighbors, I encourage you to stay informed, engaged, and respectful as we work together to preserve the community we love.
16:30Please help us spread the word and stand with us in opposition of building an Islamic center in our beloved town of Murphy.
17:00Name and address for the record, please.
17:04I've been here for over 25 years.
17:08I've seen the city grow.
17:10I've seen it grow big, I've seen it grow in many ways.
17:15I'm a Texas veteran.
17:18I want to address what happened last time.
17:23A lot of people said we had paid actors.
17:26Nobody was a paid actor.
17:28No one had anything.
17:30They come together because they care about Murphy and they want to fight back for what is going on, and we see the city where it needs not to go.
17:39There are already many traffic issues on Murphy Road.
17:42You can't even get out of your house at 6 p.m.
17:46due to PSA and all there.
17:48You have to go back towards Glen Ridge to get out.
17:52And also on Murphy Road is already constructed.
17:56I mean, there's already construction, there's traffic jams on Murphy Road and Betsy Lane.
18:03So I'm asking you, are you going to are you going to add more police officers?
18:09Are you going to shut down the lanes to bring traffic in and out?
18:14I mean, you're already going to have to close two lanes.
18:17Is it going to be like epic every Friday?
18:19Have y'all drove by to see Epic?
18:21I was there last Friday.
18:23I drove back home to get to Murphy to check on my dogs.
18:26Two lanes of traffic.
18:27I was in there for 15 minutes, stopped, and the traffic was not going.
18:33How many PD will you be directing traffic in and out?
18:36What's the cost of the police?
18:39For 50 people or more cars.
18:41And also have you checked the foot traffic.
18:43There's foot traffic on both sides on Epic every Friday on both sides.
18:48So I asked you to look at all these areas, and I asked you, don't make Murphy and they're epic.
18:54Murphy's our beautiful town, and we love it.
18:56And we want to keep Murphy safe.
19:06Any other comments this evening?
19:14Seeing none, we're going to move on to uh we're on Mayor's report.
19:19I don't have anything specific for tonight.
19:21Anyone have anything they'd like to add?
19:24Presentations, we won't be doing uh uh the proclamation tonight.
19:29There isn't anyone here to receive it.
19:31Uh item B, presentation on water loss update.
19:35I would have to get back.
19:47Oh, it's off the table.
19:49There will not be uh it's not an issue.
20:01Good evening, mayor members of council.
20:04Come up here tonight and give you a real quick water loss update.
20:07Please keep in mind that the stats that I'm going to give you mostly for the entire calendar year of 2025.
20:14So you can see that our complete 2025 water loss was a 168 million gallons, which was significantly down from 2024 and even more than that from 2023, which was the peak that we've seen.
20:31Do we know why it went down?
20:33Is it do we think it's because of the leaks that we've been fixing over time?
20:36I think there's that's a hard question to answer.
20:41Yes, I believe a big part of that is uh a big part of that is the leaks that we've fixed over time.
20:48A big part of that is that we've gotten on the same page somewhat extent with North Texas municipal water about when they read their meters and when we read our meters and tried to iron some of that out as best we can.
21:01Um and then probably the biggest factor is is that I don't think we were consistently calculating water loss as described by the the uh Texas Water Development Board, and that's what we're doing now.
21:15What was the difference?
21:16I would agree with that, because I think that we before we're getting numbers kind of all over the place and nothing really consistent.
21:24So I like those three things that you've implemented now to kind of give us more accurate results.
21:31So we think that we have improved it, but we also think it maybe wasn't as bad in those.
21:37Yes, I I can't go back and tell you that sure, but I I believe just from what I've seen, I don't think that we were consistently calculating water the same way every time.
21:50Donald, you are you tracking uh 26 the same uh and I know we're just a month.
21:55We're yes, we're using the Texas Water Development Board's method for calculating water loss.
22:00We're tracking it the same.
22:02So I I say for the for the first month tracking January of last year, we pretty much on track part of you.
22:08I know it's not on your slide.
22:10Yes, sir, and I I did look at it, but unfortunately I can't remember exactly what it was.
22:14But I think we're I think we're showing improvement if I remember correctly.
22:17Is this fiscal year?
22:18This is calendar year.
22:20Do we think that all of 2025 was calculated consistently, or did that okay?
22:27All of 2025 is calculated.
22:28I believe they started from what I saw, I believe they started calculating it consistently towards the end of 2024.
22:35I believe 2025 is calculated correctly.
22:38So in the past, um there was always uh a differentiation between unbuild and uh uh known loss versus unknown loss.
22:52So when I'm looking these numbers, is this total loss or is this unknown loss?
22:57This is uh what they would call what Texas Water Development Board calls unaccounted for water loss.
23:03So that means you can't tie it to metered, you can't tie it to metered and unbuild or build, you can't tie it to um flushing of fire hydrant or maybe uh the flushing that we do on a regular basis just to just for uh bacteriological purposes.
23:21And we estimate that, I'm not sure.
23:22Yeah, and that's estimated.
23:24Yeah, you just can't tie it back.
23:26It's just you don't know it's just a loss.
23:28You don't know what it is.
23:35Ready to move forward?
23:38So 2025 annual water loss, total water development, total water from the North Texas Municipal Water District was 1.341 billion gallons.
23:47Total water pump from the Hawthorne water uh Hawthorne pump station was 1.328 or two nine billion gallons, which leaves one point uh and the total accounted for water consumption was 1.160 billion gallons, which leaves total water loss for the entire year 168 million gallons or 13 percent.
24:12That's a lot better.
24:13That's 10 percent less than it's still a lot of water to be lost, and we're working on getting it better, but it it's a vast improvement.
24:22You'll see that in the kind of the next slides.
24:24Where's the benchmark for that?
24:25So where do you want your water loss to it?
24:27I would like the gold standard for Texas Water Development Board is 10% or less.
24:32Okay, and so that's where I would like to see it.
24:34Um however, they also see anything 15% or less is to be acceptable.
24:40And statewide water loss like this is like it happens in every city.
24:44Yes, it's you know, there's always some.
24:47Unfortunately, it's a common thing.
24:48Because we're gonna not lose water.
24:50Yeah, some I I would I'll be honest with you, some cities are better than others, uh, obviously, but uh uh you know, if anybody says they're not losing water, they're not telling you the truth.
25:02So is that based mostly on infrastructure like the oldest.
25:07You know our we're lucky here our our infrastructure is in really good shape.
25:11It's the service lines that are really the problem.
25:14Um I'll use an example.
25:16I since I've been here, we haven't had a uh a true mainline leak.
25:20And talking to Daniel, who's been here about three years, a little over three years, he hasn't had a mainline leak either.
25:28So uh we've got great infrastructure.
25:32You all know that number will go down.
25:35I think we'll get to mine and Donald's desired outcomes as we continue with the service line replacement project.
25:42So it's exciting to see it go downward this way.
25:45A lot of this, like Donald said, is calculating properly, but also those leaks that they've been fixing time over time.
25:51So uh we expect that the number continues to get better.
25:54Have we have we actually started uh the service line?
26:00Have we gone to bid?
26:01Uh we should go to bed at the end of this month or early March, which we're gonna talk about a little bit very soon.
26:08Um so here is the monthly water loss by percentage.
26:12Uh and you can see uh December was a little bit of improvement over October and November, it's 10%.
26:17Uh September was a great month.
26:21Uh there was absolutely no leaks reported in uh in September.
26:25So again, we had some October, November, and December.
26:31And what are we doing right now for leak detection?
26:34Uh it's it's the same thing that we talked about last update.
26:37We're trying to be proactive and get out on the streets and investigate any ponding or pooling or running water that we see.
26:43Uh you know, we want to be out there.
26:45All our crews are instructed to keep an eye out for it.
26:50And then we're reacting to anything that we uh we get from a customer.
26:53You know, they'll tell us, hey, I don't have water pressure, we'll go out and investigate uh nine times out of ten, that's probably a leak on a service line, and we'll go out and uh fix that right away.
27:03Try to try to get those down.
27:07Here's uh 2025 water leaks.
27:10Uh for 2025, we had a total of 40 leaks, which is down from 23 and 24.
27:15Umfortunately, I've seen several in January already, so January may peak up a little bit as well.
27:22Uh and these are just some of the just some examples of the water of the leaks that we have.
27:27Different size, different size holes in the line, you just never know what you're gonna get when you pull that thing out of the ground.
27:35So when you say like here is an estimated water loss of um whatever that one million three hundred thousand.
27:42So does that get counted in our water loss percentage, or because you know what it came from, does it get subtracted?
27:51It will get so this number will be counted for as accounted for water.
27:56However, we know that this leak was probably ongoing for longer.
28:02So we don't know how long that would be the unaccounted for portion.
28:06If that makes sense.
28:08So we go through and we estimate each leak that we fix, and then we subtract that out from like what it might have shown up as.
28:17Because that's no longer I'm just thinking through it in my head.
28:24And this was the copper service line project that we were just talking about.
28:28Uh I'm anticipating having that go out for bid uh later this month or early in March.
28:34That's about 5300 service lines that we're looking to replace.
28:43And that's all I have.
28:44Happy to answer any questions.
28:46So on that, can you go back to the not the last slide, the slide before that?
28:50But yeah, uh the one that showed the pictures of the pipes.
28:53Oh, this one for so these were all on the private side, right?
28:58No, this was our this was our side.
29:00This was all so what happens is we'll get a call from uh we'll get a call from the uh customer that says, Hey, I don't I have low water pressure, we'll go out and verify what the water pressure is.
29:11And um, obviously if there's no leak on their side, we're not nothing servicing, then it's probably on our side.
29:16So we'll if they have you know really low pressure, say 40 or less, we'll go ahead and replace it immediately.
29:23If they still have some pressure, 50 or 60, um, then we may let it sit for a little while until we can you know fit it in the schedule amongst the other priorities.
29:33But typically this is on the back side of the meter in between the main, and we'll we'll pull it out of there and and put in a new a new uh a new service line.
29:47Are we applying for any state grants?
29:49Not for this, we're not, no sir.
29:52But we do we do keep our eye on some of the Texas Water Development Board funding.
29:57They have some uh some funding out there, it's available.
30:01Unfortunately, it's usually for um uh cities that uh more low-income cities that uh and they do have some uh also have some uh low interest loans that they'll give out, but typically those interest rates are higher than what we can get bonds for.
30:17So we keep an eye out, see if they have any programs that might fit us, but uh they usually don't quite fit us the right way.
30:26You know what would be great is if we sometimes on our website, you know, we send out information, but to remind people if they have low water pressure, any type of issue to contact you guys to have you come out because as you said that I was like, guess who's been having some low water pressure since that winter storm?
30:44Yeah, that would be me.
30:47We can definitely but I guess that serves as a reminder sitting here that oh yeah, I do need to it is lower storm.
30:57Well, and that's a good point.
31:01Yeah, uh as we look at this, a storm like that, an ice storm like that, the change in the weather, it moves the it moves the soil and it makes poles worse.
31:10Which which is why we believe we're seeing more uh more leaks popping up right now.
31:17Any other questions?
31:23City manager staff reports.
31:25Mayor and council, just a few updates for the community.
31:29The rainbow trout roundup is coming up in the next couple of weeks.
31:32It'll take place on February 28th at the uh City Hall Pond from 10 a.m.
31:38This is kid-only fishing um from 10 to 1.
31:43Fishing before 10 a.m.
31:45is strictly prohibited until after the event is over.
31:49The recycling truck art contest is underway.
31:53The um contest is officially open.
31:55The submission deadline is February 28, 2026, and there is a new drop-off location.
32:01You can drop off your artwork only on eight and a half by eleven uh inch paper at the Murphy Community Center or the Murphy Act Ten Activity Center, excuse me.
32:12Um create a mascot based on what Murphy means to you.
32:16Please ensure it is an original drawing, not using AI assistance or reusing mascots from previous years.
32:24Um and just as a reminder, this the winner of the winners in the different categories of the artwork does go on to a recycling truck that drives around Murphy.
32:34So your kids will have the opportunity to have their artwork on full display for the entire community for a year.
32:40So please participate if you have little artists at home.
32:44Food Truck Friday is about to take uh start back up again in March, March 13th and 27th.
32:50Uh join us at Murphy Central Park from 6 to 9 p.m.
32:53for Food Truck Friday.
32:55Uh we will have live music, entertainment, and all the fun that we've had in past years.
33:00And then our next council meeting will actually take place on Thursday, February 19th.
33:05It will be a joint work session between the P and Z and the City Council, and that will be held in the community room uh at City Hall.
33:15How many Fridays will that food truck uh the 13th and the 27th?
33:23Moving on to item eight consent agenda, all consent items will be considered to be routine by the city council.
33:29Be enacted by one motion.
33:30There will be no separate discussion of those items unless a council members have request in which event the item will be removed consent agenda and voted on separately.
33:39Would anyone like to remove an item from the consent agenda at this time?
33:45Seeing none, I'll take a motion.
33:47Mayor move that we approve the consent agenda as presented.
33:51I have a motion, second.
33:54Motion passes unanimously.
33:56Item nine, individual consideration.
33:59Consider underact on a resolution authorizing city manager to execute a general services agreement with Neil Shaper Inc.
34:06to provide engineering services for design work associated with the rehabilitation replacement, approximately 6,000 linear feet of sanitary sewer line and concrete roadway in the timber subdivision, an amount not to exceed 411,900.
34:22Is this going to include how many panels of actual road ways to be the entire roadway?
34:29And the reason that is because we will tear up the entire roadway when we replace the sewer lines.
34:35Which specific road is going to be I can show you a uh exhibit or an attachment if uh Carter can bring that up.
34:44It's the same area as the uh cast iron main project that we came before council a while back.
35:00And I would I would anticipate doing this in phases.
35:02All the green lines?
35:04So we're gonna have all brand new roads in the timbers.
35:11If we take those sewer lines out, we're gonna destroy the roadway.
35:14Yes, it is a a good answer.
35:16I mean you just roads need to be replaced.
35:19Yeah, but need to be replaced.
35:23I don't want council to think that um I guess I guess what surprises me is 411,000.
35:33It's just the design.
35:34That's just the design, yes, sir.
35:38I was gonna say you're not replacing 80% of the roads and the timbers for 411,000.
35:44But I don't want council to think that these are in the end if that's the case.
35:51I don't want to think I don't want council to think that these are these sewer lines are in in danger of catastrophic catastrophic failure.
35:58They are not uh this is yeah, this is a proactive approach.
36:04And this is the same project we talked about last meeting.
36:11This is the one that we deallocated about $511,000 for, and then council approved reallocating 411 for this project.
36:20That's what I thought.
36:23Donald, what is the you talked already about having uh this completed in phases?
36:27Do you have any idea of timeline?
36:30I'm waiting on engineering to come through on this after we, but I would think that you know you're gonna look at six plus months of of engineering and design.
36:38Uh depending on how they see the phasing coming out, I would think you would probably tear up the tear up the roads to get to the sewer lines in one place while you and then one year fixing the road, you move over to the next phase.
36:53So I'm thinking you're probably looking at from start to finish, including design, three and a half to four years.
36:59So the it'll be interesting to see your do your your uh your your traffic planning on this.
37:08Especially during school, like with school buses and you know, all of that activity going on trying to get down the road.
37:14All of that would be taken in consideration.
37:16And the reason that we would want to phase this is obviously you you would want to you want to phase it in such a manner that you're not bringing heavy construction equipment right back over a road you repair you just replaced.
37:27So that'd be an important part of the phasing.
37:29Well, there's limited egress in some of these areas as well.
37:33Uh there's some work that I know that we're gonna be doing behind the curb.
37:36Is that gonna be included or try to include that in this same time, or is that gonna be separate?
37:40You're talking about the water lines or the it's gonna depend on the uh on the phasing and if we can get any uh economy of scale uh from that.
37:49And that's something that we've talked to the engineer about.
37:51Is there a way to possibly combine the two projects into one?
37:55Um we would already torn up.
38:00We've talked, we brought that up with the engineer, and it it's gonna depend on the economy of scale for sure.
38:04So I have an additional question.
38:06Now that now that I understand a little bit more about this.
38:09Okay, at the bottom, we'll look at Rocky Glen.
38:12Um my friends that live over there telling me about drainage issues that they've had with stormwater.
38:19Would this be an opportunity to help kind of fix stormwater on that too?
38:24If you're tearing up the street anyway for that.
38:26It would depend on where the yeah, it would depend on where the I'd have to look at those lines to see where they run and what kind of issues they're having.
38:34I I don't know if like just talking about it, I won't know if it's an issue with the lines or if it's something downstream that's blocking it, and we just need to.
38:42I'll send you a report.
38:45Be happy to look at that.
38:51Any other questions?
38:53Mayor, I move that we approve um agenda item A as presented.
38:59We have a motion signal in favor.
39:02Uh I have a motion, all those uh and a second, all those in favor?
39:09All right, we're gonna move into executive session.
39:11According to Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, sub chapter D, the City Council will now recess new executive session to discuss the following.
39:17Item A 551.071, consultation with attorney on pending or contemplated litigation.
39:22And on a matter in which the duty of the attorney to the government body under the Texas disciplinary rules, professional conduct, state by Texas clearly conflicts with this chapter in reference to 103 pioneer.
39:35And the time is 6.39.
39:42City council reconvening the regular session pursuant the provisions of chapter 551 sub chapter D text and government code take any action necessary regarding A51.071 consultation with attorney on pending or contemplated litigation and on a matter in which the duty of the attorney to the governmental body under the Texas disciplinary rules of professional conduct of the State Bar of Texas clearly conflicts with chapter uh in reference to 103 Pioneer Lane.
40:12And we are just a second.
40:22And I'm going to go on to item 12, future agenda items.
40:25Council may members may request topics for future agenda meetings.
40:29No member of the city council may discuss any of the requested subjects until such a matter has been properly placed on the agenda.
40:35Would anyone like to add an item to a future agenda at this time?
40:41Seeing none, we are adjourned.