And the Planning and Zoning Commission joint a work session.

It is February 19th.

The chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission, Christine Johnson will be opening her session as well as soon as I open for council.

So with that, I'm gonna turn the time over to the city secretary for all call certification of the quorum.

Mayor, can I have a time to order?

Time is 6 p.m.

So Mayor Scott Bradley?

Mayor Pro Tim Elizabeth Abraham.

Here.

Deputy Mayor Pro Tim Janae Butler.

Councilmember please two Scott Smith.

Here.

Councilmember place three, Andrew Chase.

Yep.

Councilmember place for Ken Otman.

Here.

Councilmember place Five Laura Deal.

Here.

Mayor certified the presence of a quorum for City Council.

Thank you, Candy.

I'll turn the time over to Ms.

Johnson to open her session.

Pass the gathering hammer.

Can you call role for planning and zoning, please?

I will do that.

Chair Christine Johnson.

Here.

Vice Chair Destiny Bardeese here.

Commissioner John Bryant.

Here.

Secretary Beverly Gaither.

Here.

Commissioner Camille Hooper?

Here.

Commissioner Trisha Colbert.

Commissioner Raj Mandalia.

Alternate Commissioner Amanda Turner.

Here.

Alternate Commissioner Jacob Coleman.

I certify a quad.

All right.

Well, thank you very much.

Then we're going to go straight into presentations.

Item 4A.

Review and discuss the proposed draft of the Murphy Master Plan.

Provide direction on any proposed amendments to the plan, any proposed ordinance amendments to assist in implementation.

Bragan, you running this show?

I think so.

I'll kick it off.

All right.

Okay.

Thank you, Mayor and Council, Planning and Zoning Commission for being here for this very important night.

This kind of is the beginning of the end of culmination of a project that began in late 2024 when we had our first meeting, including this group and many more individuals to discuss this project.

Tonight is really going to be a high level overview of where we are now.

What we're hoping is that all of you were able to take a look at this document that was uh posted by Close of Business last Friday.

Anybody could have taken a look at it and we believe it was emailed to you as well and provide any feedback after Aber Nusser, who is the lead team lead from LJA Engineering, who's been our consultant throughout this process, goes over a high level overview.

Um what we're looking for or any major concerns, issues you have with some strategic objectives, issues like that.

If there are typos minor things of that nature, please send those in an email.

We're more than happy to take care of those as you write through.

But tonight we're looking for big picture.

Uh hopefully you appreciate what the residents who participated.

Master plan advisory committee and staff and the consultants have put into this planning document, which is our first major um master plan, comprehensive plan rewrite since 2008, and it's been a major undertaking.

So with that, I'm going to let uh Admester take it away.

Thank you.

Um so obviously the the document's just less than a hundred pages.

So we're not going to be reading it together tonight.

Um I'm going to be scrolling through the pages very quickly, not to uh necessarily let everyone read everything uh live on the slide, but just remind you what's in that particular chapter, and then we can stop at each chapter and ask if anybody has any questions or comments if that works for everybody.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's go.

Uh so first up we have a lay of the land here and a special thank you to everyone who participated.

Um there's an introduction chapter, fiscal and economic vitality, design framework, services, facilities, and utilities, and then implementation.

Um so each here's the introduction chapter.

We're gonna be going through uh about the plan, planning area and population, community engagement.

That was high level, and then the community vision um statement.

So uh we've got the letter from Mayor Bradley there, and then on the right, I did want to call out that throughout the theme there's a mosaic theme, and the mosaic themes next to that that picture there, but it's about how there's separate we we heard throughout the planning process that each neighborhood has kind of its separate identity, and then you know, 544 has its identity, and there's all these different places in Murphy that have separate identities, and then when they come together, like a mosaic, each tile can be different, but then they make a a larger picture.

So that's the theme that we went with, and you'll see an ode to a mosaic, you know, in these uh pictures that we used and things like that, and how we did little graphics, it's all uh an ode back to that mosaic theme.

So uh we are linking closely to the City of Murphy strategic plan that was up adopted um, I guess 2025 is last year now.

Um I'm still stuck in that year, and then it is consistent also with the parks recreation trails and open space master plan.

Uh we did a planning approach that's a triple bottom line, and we tried to operate at the center of that, and then design thinking as well, which included listening throughout with a fresh mind and not trying to find solutions before we knew what the issues were.

Uh brief history of Murphy and Murphy and the region.

You can see Murphy in the middle there.

Um, this is a 30-minute drive time, so you can kind of see how far uh you can really get from Murphy.

But throughout the process, Murphy's edges are very permeable.

There's not really hard edges of the city.

So one of the key differentiators is its location and how quickly you can go to different areas.

But you can see how far the 30-minute drive time really reaches.

Um there's our planning area.

Most of it is city limits.

There's two little pockets that are ETJ, which is extra territorial jurisdiction where the city can potentially annex it with the property owner's consent in the future, and they still control we still control subdivision there, but it's not part of the city limits.

So most of the planning area is city limits.

On the population side, um, we have oh that's really uh we have a current population of 21,172 as of January 1st from NCT COG.

Um, they typically update their population projections every year, but that's where we stand currently.

And then we've got you know, ATJ control limitations.

You can read about that.

Housing construction.

So you can see between 2000 and 2009, there was a big peak in housing construction, not so much these days.

Um, so in the total housing uh potential, uh, that's just a broad forecast from ESRI, which is a um a global data and mapping company, and based on kind of the the potential areas you have left and some infill types of engagement.

We had the Murphy planning advisory committee that met throughout the process, very helpful.

Um, some of whom are in this room, and then the technical advisory committee as well, which is a group of key staff, and then of course the public.

So we had a community, we had a couple of community forums for um input, and then we also had this online collaborative map where we had 104 comments dropped, and then people could like, dislike, or comment on other people's comments.

So that was a fun collaborative opportunity that we used to inform the plan.

Uh, we tied in the 2024 communities, I mean a citizen survey, and then we did stakeholder interviews.

You can see a list there and um some themes that came up, and people really looking for um new excitement with destinations, and they're they're loving what's here now, but wanting some more um local dining entertainment and gathering places.

Community forum one was in person and had uh great turnout and got a lot of um great feedback.

We'll talk more about that as we go.

And then community forum two was on Zoom and just kind of showed a PowerPoint presentation of the draft concepts and highlights, and uh people could comment in the Zoom or comment after the Zoom because the video was posted as well.

The youth advisory committee that was a fun little engagement.

Uh that was they took a look at one of the mods, which is a Murphy opportunity district.

We're gonna go through those as well.

Hopefully, you read about them.

Uh, but they took a look at that Kinney tract and really had fun with that, and they provided some great feedback that was really consistent with what impact had already said, so it was just kind of a an enhancement and a refinement of that already.

And there's the the impact page there in the TAC.

So crafting the vision, lots of things went into the vision, obviously.

Uh the vision statement was taken from the 2025 strategic plan since the city had just gone through that up that process of establishing a vision statement.

We used that in this plan, um, and we felt like it was very relevant for what the feedback had been in the analysis.

From that, we extracted these vision guiding principles, and uh the technical advisory committee and the master plan advisory committee weighed in on these uh vision guiding principles that were adopted then by council.

Um so these are the vision guiding principles that were used in the plan and can be used uh in the future to guide decision making process.

Oh, look at that, Mel Zay.

All right, so chapter two.

Uh any questions or comments on chapter one when we go into chapter two.

Okay.

I get I guess if I could since my kind of overall concern has to do with with something that was identified in 21.

Can I just on page 21 on the community forum can I bring it up now or do I need to wait?

Uh sure, sure.

Yeah.

So in the community forum, it mentions green space and environmental sustainability.

Well, in reading the rest of the document, green space just goes away, and you end up with open space.

And my concern is that that's not really you know, I mean, open space could still be still be like, you know, a a lot of time.

I mean, don't we need to kind of emphasize that it still should be green space?

Sure, yeah, there are park and destination type elements, and then there is a focus on Maxwell Creek as well in the plan.

Um so in terms of what you're maybe looking for on the green space side, were you looking for like more actions or uh park-related items?

Well, I'm just I just don't want I mean green space was was uh you know as part of the community feedback, and it just doesn't seem like that that that could carry throughout the document.

Maybe it just needs to be green slash open space so that so that they know that you know that's you know that we are striving to you know to obtain that and not just have open spaces that are just oh here's some concrete and some benches.

Well, that's not really you know okay.

So you feel like if it said greenslash open space, that would be more descriptive, yes.

Easy fix.

Yes, yes, and then as far as sustainability, I don't think that's I'm I don't see a lot of that within the document.

I I don't see like water conservation, that's not in there.

I mean, where is sustainability within this plan?

Sure.

Um I mean like we say take stormwater for example, you know.

We don't talk about sustainability stormwater, you know, measures, we just talk about you know, but but that needs to be thinking as far as future.

You know, you need to have sustainable stormwater measures.

Sustainable stormwater management.

Sorry.

I mean I think maybe the solar maybe in there once.

But like you don't, like I said, you don't have water conservation in there, you don't have energy efficient, you know, building structures.

You just don't I'm I'm not seeing a lot of the what I consider to be sustainability measures that can be within a city's master plan.

I I'm just not seeing a lot of it.

So one thing we can do is if you have specific action recommendations that you feel are relevant, then when we get to that particular chapter, that particular section, we can maybe add them in.

Um there are some things.

Oh I was gonna show you to do searching fails, certainly it's gonna be really hard for me to uh there's so many actions.

Uh but you know, smart utility technologies is an example of you know trying to make sure that usage is matched up with um billing and supply, those type of things.

They might not be readily apparent as sustainability measures, but they are.

Um but I'm I'm we're totally open to more actions that you want to add.

It was a few comments that came up at the community forum, but I wouldn't say it was like a pervasive, like very overwhelming theme.

Um so it is a it was a theme in that more uh a few people mentioned it, but we didn't feel like there was a big huge push for sustainability in the feedback that we heard.

So, but we we can add actions if you guys want to add actions in certain areas that you feel are relevant and that are gonna move the city forward.

I think we might be able to.

I know that in our meeting with the committee meeting, we didn't really talk about sustainability that much.

Not at all.

And you know, I think that there are some things like um permeable parking services, you know, or percentage of permeable parking percentages in in certain certain mods, right?

But I don't know like how much detail we put into that here because it's more of a city and can council ordinance, right?

That would go into like whenever we decide that mod, like that would be because it might be appropriate to one mod, but not appropriate to another one.

The one mod that has uh it's the triangular piece with a bunch of trees, like I mean, it says the public would like as many trees preserved in there as possible, and for it to be like a more natural setting.

So that's an example of something that is a sustainability measure to propo to preserve the trees.

So some of the things in the plan might not be overtly sustainability, but we're definitely using that as a lens to be respectful of that feedback for sure.

I would say this dovetails with the city's strategic plan, and there are water conservation objectives and a number of things that would be sustainable that are in our strategic plan that didn't need to be repeated in this one because they will they'll work together.

So there are operationally a number of sustainable objectives that deal with stormwater, all the operational sort of things of the side of the city dealing with stormwater and water conservation.

We have objectives already in the city strategic plan that we're just.

I guess I just want to make sure that that those are that that's gonna be something that's at least reviewed and looked at when it comes to those mods.

You know, like an open space in a mod, you don't just want some, like I said, you you want more green, you know, people want more shade.

Okay, well, how about some shaded parking scar solar panels on top, you know?

I mean, something, you know, so just try to try trying to incorporate that more into those commercial areas because I mean, you know, a lot of our commercial areas are wide and and open, and people are right.

We don't have a lot of shaded and you know, walking, you know.

I think I think some of the mods we're looking at how to reduce the the heat island um parking and and and add more and I hate to say uh green if it's gonna be like astro turf or something, you know what I mean?

Because you know how there's some like some developments where they may have like a like a multi-function area that's like an astroturf type of even that is is better than than having some open space concrete that you know is just gonna be hot and nobody's gonna want to use it, Jimmy.

Yeah, I I don't I don't think from from my from my point of view, I don't think that was ever an issue confusing open space with a concrete jungle, if that makes sense.

Yeah, where it says open space, it was implied that it was green space, I think.

Um it's a widely used term for accessible green space that's meant to be communal and community focused.

Open space is a is an industry term that is is widely accepted as green space.

But you can see here, like in the uh vision guiding principles, and you're gonna be using this as a decision framework, right?

You know, so you can use these to evaluate the mods when they come forward for maybe redevelopment or rezoning.

Um, but it says that under distinctive destinations and activity hubs that uh Murphy will encourage and market vibrant commercial mixed use areas that bring people together in enjoyable and beautiful settings.

So, you know, yes, is it vague?

Yes, but it does it include shade and greenery and all that.

It it would be up to interpretation.

And to be clear, there is vagueness to a degree by design, right?

Right.

The master plan is is intended to be a guiding document to show us where we can hit, where we should be heading into the future, but it's not meant to marry us to a very specific idea today, right?

So we have to keep some vagueness to make sure that council can have some flexibility, we can be flexible with development while getting to the heart of the concept that Abra just spelled out.

And see, this one says it, you know, uh remaining development and future development will provide green space, um, high quality design and compatible uses to the extent possible.

So there's it's definitely sprinkled throughout the plan.

Um maybe one easy add.

Um it's action item three point three dot one dot one.

And it says like establishing design expectations about materials and parking, and maybe that's a place to add um like Ken was saying about well, maybe in some mods we could talk about you know, those those kind of things as like one of the things to talk about in that action item to make sure there's some yeah, you could say establish design expectations for scale, materials, parking, landscaping, um, or whatever.

Yeah.

Oh, by the way, this is Tiffany, that's Amber, and that's Preston, and they're all helping take notes tonight.

So if you don't see me writing things down, they are one last question on this topic.

You've you and your team have done a lot of these.

Do cities ever put anything in there about like lead certifications or anything like that with with buildings.

I'm not saying that we need anything here.

Sometimes I'm just curious if they don't know a lot of subsidies are so big that they can't.

There are some cities that are very, very focused on sustainability.

Um, like when I worked for the city of Denton, uh, Denton is very they're buildings are lead certified and and all sorts of things uh with UNT and all of that.

So Austin is very, very into sustainability.

Usually the more urban um larger cities where they're dealing with a lot of pavement and heat island effect and and all those things, and they've got drainage problems from all the pavement.

Uh, but typically in a city of this size, it doesn't come up very very often, but it does come up sometimes.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Okay, so we marked down the 3.1 point one.

And um, if you if you've got any other action uh things as we go through here, you mentioned a couple, so maybe just remind us of those ones that might fit where we get where we are in the process.

Okay, great.

So this is fiscal and economic vitality.

Um so we we recapped some feedback here.

Uh we did kind of a little um leakage exercise that kind of showed where people were shopping and dining and uh eating out and all those things, and you can see that people were traveling pretty far uh at the community forum, but it's really that 30-minute drive trade area is what we were focusing on uh based on that feedback and based on kind of uh anecdotal tolerances based on what people have been saying.

And then on the right, we really we talked about what makes a great place in Murphy that we might not have or that could be improved.

We talked about the mods and what people's ideas were for the mods.

We had a whole little mod nook where people could uh look at them and provide feedback on on any of them.

So we'll go through those too when we get to that.

Um, and then we had a map to the gap station talking about where people were looking for connections, and we'll talk about that more in the design framework chapter.

But uh, this is the economic development strategic plan.

Lots of great content in there, and that was completed in 2021, so we used that to kind of inform that this chapter.

Uh people of Murphy, pretty diverse group.

You can see the breakdown here, uh, but median age 40.2, and um very high uh median home value and household income compared to some other areas.

This is our trade area.

It really mimics uh the 30-minute drive time, but this is from the city's consultant retail coach.

So um, since the city had already invested in that data and analysis, that's what was used for this plan so that everything would kind of sync up uh commercial development conditions, the city budget, working with uh just over 20 million dollars in general fund revenue, but boy, it goes fast, doesn't it?

Um and expenditures at 21 million and some change there.

We went through some financing and economic development tools like the Murphy Community Development Corporation and the Murphy Municipal Development District and incentive agreements, got some housing market characteristics here, business summary, um employment summary percentages of businesses, lots of retail businesses in terms of um share of businesses and then you've got your commute profile, lots of people driving alone.

Anecdotally, though, we talked to a lot of people that might commute to work maybe half of the time, and the other half of the time they're staying at home.

And a lot of people choosing to stay home most of the time.

So they might have an office, but anecdotally, a lot of people just kind of as we were talking in the stakeholder interviews are working from home, and that's what they're enjoying.

And you profile there.

So the vision for fiscal and economic vitality is we've got the community differentiators here.

The top three that we kind of highlighted at the community forum was great access, an engaged community, and a strong core.

So that you know, the FM544 is a booming bustling corridor, and not all cities have that, so it's definitely an asset and something that's different.

And then the engaged community people really care.

And a lot of communities, people don't care about anything.

But people in Murphy are pretty checked in.

They really are invested in what's going on, and so that's a strength, and it's something that knit people together.

And talk about all the other things, great access.

So alignment with the vision guiding principles.

This is a framework that was drafted to kind of frame every thing on the fiscal and economic vitality side, really four prongs, but retain the existing businesses and organizations that complement Murphy's vision, recruit more destination style businesses and development developments, and then redevelop select sites to transform businesses and developments to complement the Murphy vision, and then uh refine existing areas and corridors through strategic design and programming.

So then it goes through uh each of the four.

And then here's our actions.

But um, hopefully you did.

And does anybody have any questions or comments on fiscal and economic vitality?

High level overview.

Once going twice.

Alright.

Uh so this is the design framework.

Uh mostly going to walk through future land use, so the the land use side and then mobility side.

So this is the two commonly thing common most common components used in a comprehensive plan is the future land use plan and the master thoroughfare plan.

It's kind of the the guiding documents of a comprehensive plan or master plan.

So in general, we've got uh some things going on.

We've got uh voices and existing development, we've got economic and fiscal considerations, natural features and environmental assets, redevelopment, all sorts of uh factors at play.

We did have the feedback at community forum one that was on the mods and all sorts of elements for the chapters that have informed this.

For destinations, people were really looking for walkable places with lush landscaping, so very uh focus on the enjoyable beauty of what landscaping can bring, um, and then uh accessibility by public transit.

There's not really public transit, but that was uh community feedback, and inviting gathering areas, live music and public art, a library, um, and shade and water features.

We talked about the mods, uh, but really people were looking for destination was uh a key theme throughout the process.

Um, people really looking for people just places to hang out and gather and spend time with family or friends, um, or even just places to go, and uh desired features, more green space, support for facade and pavement improvements, lots of feedback about the potholes in Murphy Crossing, and uh focus on walkable uh things and utilize existing open space and unpaved walking and nature trails.

Traffic traffic traffic uh on 544, definitely a theme, and um you know, there's there's some fear that it's going to get worse, and um you know, there's there's only so much the city can do about that, and uh but we have provided some strategies in here that may help alleviate some of that.

Um trails and pathways, really um people I thought it was so interesting at the community forum.

We had 24 by 36 uh aerial maps, you can see it in the bottom right, and people had no idea the the trail network that was in Murphy and close to Murphy, and they were so excited to see it.

Um so that was really a cool process to watch, just kind of that a lot of people don't look at maps um on the daily unless they're just navigating somewhere.

But people were looking for more cross connections across Maxwell Trail, I mean Maxwell Creek, and um they were excited about the new crossing coming in at 544 at Maxwell Creek that TechSdot will be uh coordinating, so lots of excitement on that.

Here's existing land use.

We've got mostly residential, right?

Uh a lot of um existing development, uh, mostly built out.

You've only got a few sites that are undeveloped, but a lot of neighborhoods here.

Existing zoning kind of mimics that here's your few previous future land use plan.

Um, so you can kind of see lots of you know, in 2008, it wasn't proposed that the existing residential neighborhoods would change to anything else, but existing residential neighborhoods.

So uh we brought uh most of this forward, and so we just made some refinements based on feedback.

Um, existing master thoroughfare plan, it is exactly the same.

So no changes uh because all the roads are pretty much in, you don't have any big single-family, you know, 400 lot things coming in, like some of the other undeveloped areas in the Metroplex.

Really, the the roads are pretty set, so the no changes from from a master thoroughfares standpoint.

Um so here's your two uh components of the design framework.

So we're gonna go through those.

So land use and placemaking, we really want things to be uh integrated with mobility.

So if you just have the use of the land and you're not thinking about how people get to the land, it's really uh it doesn't work as well.

So mobility integration is important, um, being connected and walked walkable, active and linked, and regional and local uses.

So some things are just for the neighborhood, right?

And some things are to capture commuters going through uh 544.

So here's your future land use plan draft.

Um you can see there's a lot of yellow, right?

Most of your neighborhood, I mean, all of your neighborhoods are in, and you've got a couple places of planned residential where you know it was thought that you know it should probably be residential as well and wouldn't be commercial appropriate.

And we made a special future land use district for the Murphy Opportunity District, so we're gonna go through that.

Alright, so here's your different colors and what they mean.

So existing neighborhoods, this is a preservation category, right?

Anything that comes into an existing neighborhood should be compatible with all what's already there.

They're not proposed to change.

Some communities will see an existing neighborhood and they'll say, Oh, this one should be retail, and they'll just plan on the homes going away.

It's a we don't do that.

So existing neighborhoods stay just like they are, and anything that comes in should be compatible with what goes in there.

And we felt like that was what you would guys would want.

Um, and then planned residential, these could be little uh these are little areas, so there won't be a lot of homes, but um it is planned to kind of have uh the the residential neighborhood, parks, schools, open space, it can be any combination of the two.

This is not zoning, so this is high level, it should be residential in feel.

Uh parks in nature, that's your Maxwell Creek area, and your public and private parks, so pretty self-explanatory what that should be.

And then Civic Hub, that's where we are right now.

So anticipated uses would be government and institutional parks and rec, uh, but adding in the opportunity to have kind of more of that community heart and allowing mixed use development, retail, restaurant, office, residential, low density, owner-occupied preferred.

Um, but this could really turn into a place where there could be a small pocket of mixed-use development that works very well off of Murphy Road.

We're gonna talk about uh mod four and five, um, and that'll kind of make more sense.

Uh community commercial, pretty self-explanatory, but all the stuff on uh 544, right, with the exception of the mods, but um looking for it to be really um uh supporting the community with neighborhood services, but also capturing that regional market of sales tax and dining and what could possibly be out there.

And here's the mods.

Okay, so we've entered the mods.

Uh so there's there's 10 mods.

You can see there's a map there, so hopefully y'all are familiar and have flipped through, but we're gonna go through each one, and each one has its own vision, high level vision.

This is not a rezoning, a future land use plan is not zoning.

So this is high level vision.

It can be different from what is there, and that's okay.

Um it's just a vision for if as someone w comes in and wants to redevelop it.

Um but this was a really significant collaboration, especially with the Murphy uh the Master Plan Advisory Committee.

And they really dug in and we talked through it, and then like I said, the youth advisory committee didn't chime in on a kinetract, but let's go through these.

So here's just a little mosaic of of each one you can see there.

Uh, but the first one is Dublin Gateway.

Um it's about three acres and it's off of uh 544 and Dublin Road.

You can see in the bottom left, there's a kind of a cell tower um thing there, a car dealership, and you can kind of see the existing conditions, but the vision is um kind of a welcome entry and focused at the corner if possible, maybe two to three-story commercial building, and um trying to get some shared green space in there, maybe a visible focal point, and then as it transitions toward the single story development, maybe making it less intense.

Uh so maybe having parking or open space along the north end of the site to make sure that it's really compatible.

Um should I stop after each mod or go through.

Yeah, I think an opportunity at least for people to kind of let's stop pause there.

So, how do we feel about mod one?

Uh you know, what's interesting about mod one is the property owner just the other side of Dublin, which is not Murphy, uh it ends up being I guess that's Richardson.

I know I can't put in that track.

Uh that property owner reached out to me.

Um there's no easy connection for them for water uh sewer.

And so they were hoping they could become they they could be integrated into the city.

Now they're not ETJ, they are you know uh proper, so it'd be harder.

Um but uh that has always been kind of an ugly corner to me.

Uh it'll be interesting to do something nicer there.

Uh and you know, even with that, thinking about you know what goes across the street and assisting and doing some things that's a little bit more holistic for that whole corner, whole sides of doubling room.

It's really interesting because it is.

Whether we annex it or don't so it's it's your first impression of Murphy on that side.

That's what I was thinking.

You have that focal point that you know you've arrived in Murphy.

Yeah.

That area is a little confusing.

It's like is this Planner or is this Murphy?

Right.

I know my mother law lives in the uh uh over 55 community right there and it's plenty of christen that or road and city Murphy.

Okay, so this is a little confusing around here.

But that's been a uh a used car dealership of some flavor since before I moved to Murphy.

Um so I'm not sure how quickly that's gonna get how how easily it is to uh uh to redevelop that.

But it's a prime piece of property, it's unfortunate.

Well, I think that's the beauty of this process is that we're saying to a potential developer, this is what you can do.

So if a property owner like the car dealership says, oh, wait, we have more money if we do this, or if we partner with these people sell it.

And that's what I that's what's really neat about this whole process that we're doing.

And I agree.

And I think I think even if it's a partnership with the neighboring city to expand that, right?

Even we don't do it directly, and we make the an opportunity.

I think there's something really interesting that could be doing done with that larger footprint.

Yep, and you make a good point too about basically communicating to the development community, this is what we want.

And sometimes the development community just meets you right there and they say we we're ready.

And there's people ready to invest that are looking for that signal that the we call it a locally preferred alternative, right?

So if there's a if there's an alternative that the city has approved, then it makes it more suitable.

Right.

Yeah.

And it can even help with lending as well.

Because we need developers that are going to share our vision of what we want our city to look like.

Right.

I'm tired of that.

Yeah.

People telling us what they want to do there.

Hired a settlement.

Yes, yes.

All right.

Okay.

So this one is Heritage Gateway.

That's the one I was referencing with all the trees.

But it is south of five FM544 between Heritage Parkway and the Dart Rail line.

It's approximately four acres.

It's got a lot of trees.

And the vision would be it's kind of longer than the other ones, but uh it has an existing planned development district on it right now.

So that's the picture that's in the bottom right, is what's in that PD.

And if it were to develop that way, it basically says that uh the architecture could be more you know compatible with nearby residential areas, incorporating materials such as brick and stone and pitched roofs uh in a neutral color palette.

So maybe just making it look uh more residential in nature instead of commercial in nature could help it uh blend in more, but if not, um there could be an opportunity to have some sort of destination style development where um you're really blending in with the trees, maybe there's a small scale acoustic music area with some string lights and um maybe an outdoor space with picnic seating and this would be our version of the rustic, yeah.

Right.

I agree.

I then this is always concerned me.

I mean, we go from a uh a place of pretty high density with the homes to you know to put some green space there and then more high density.

And it I I'd hate to see something just go there that just blends into everything else, and you just have you know what 544 starts just looking dust real, you know, all the way down without that green space.

So I I mean we we approved this uh when this came out.

It's never developed.

I've always been happy that nobody's ever been able to make the dollars work because I like it kind of I like the trees there.

If we are gonna replace the trees, um then something that kind of kind of pre presents uh a value other than just a bunch of buildings sitting there.

You can't leave the trees, right?

It's flood zone, it needs a ton of fill.

So you can't say, well, build within the trees.

Those trees are gone if they get built, it gets wiped.

Uh you can apply.

If any structure goes on there, the trees are all so I get that, but I just I just don't want you know another ugly strip mall or whatever that'll that'll go in there.

Otherwise, there's no differentiation between the cities, right?

Right now you come through and you see that green space and it just gets replaced by another strip mall, it's just a new strip.

Any other comments on mod two?

All right, mod three.

So Brand Gateway is north of FM 544, east of the railroad tracks, and it's about 22 acres, it's like commercial for zoning right now.

Um, it has a mix of auto-oriented and commercial uses, and it's got some a dry cleaner going on and auto repair and um all sorts of things here on this site, but the vision would be a major gateway opportunity, so you would have um destination-oriented commercial activity, appropriate for multi-story commercial uses such as a hotel with conference and event facilities, and or a campus-style medical development.

Um future redevelopment should establish a unified look and feel across the site with coordinated architecture, site design, and signage, shared green space is encouraged as an organizing element to create a more cohesive campus-like and uh campus-like environment and enhance the overall character of the gateway.

So here you have comments on mod three.

All right.

Well, I'm I may be naive, but I have a hard time.

Like I think this is fine.

I'm not saying we change anything, but just my comment on it is I don't know how easy would be for all the storage places to have another plan, but they're gonna make more money.

Yeah, you know, it's a ton of money.

So this I mean, but we should have this set up like this.

I just I think this one is the biggest, it's it's high in the sky, you know.

It's hardest to get there.

Yeah.

It is it is a lofty goal when you have nine different property owners, and we understand that.

And so the idea here was to at least create some kind of vision that could be attractive if the right person came along to try to cobble that together.

I think that you know, storage uses are pretty poor land use, they don't really help our bottom line as a community.

So encouraging something that could um be a real destination and not look like our like commercial district in the city and and really even like this one in some scenarios, there could still be storage in the back, but just something better on on the street side.

Yeah, exactly.

How we see these kind of sites develop is usually there'll be you know a couple of parcels that are ready to turn, and they'll know about the vision, and so they'll construct something that is of you know closer to the vision, and it'll be a catalyst for the other property owners to get involved and maybe sell.

So um sometimes it's not all the parcels at at the same time, sometimes it is that kind of simple.

All right, mod four and five.

So that's where we are right now.

Uh this is a combo site on the east and west sides of Murphy Road, and existing conditions, you know, we've got activity center, mature trees, a salon.

Um, so there is some private property in mod four and mod five.

But the vision would be to really um let's see how I can summarize this shortly.

Um, but city owned properties, um, you know, build on that civic role facility.

I'm just gonna read it.

On privately owned properties, the vision supports office or residential uses, including low density townhomes that complement surrounding civic functions and reinforce a cohesive town center character.

So really looking to tie mod four and five together into a cohesive place somehow.

Um and then mod five, where we are right now, which is on the east side, um, is envisioned as a multi-story destination-oriented campus that may accommodate office, residential and or boutique hotel uses, opportunities for co-working space and conference facilities support flexible employment and gathering needs, while enhanced landscaping and shared green space establish a high quality campus style uh environment.

So I hope we're hearing green space.

Uh there's there's multiple references to green space, but their intention to focus function as a cohesive place, and hopefully there could be some sort of intentional design and connectivity across the road, and then some streetscape that kind of plays into that relationship.

But this is probably one of the most important mods on your list.

Uh continuity between uh four and five, uh creating this kind of uh this this model that creates uh both connectivity between the two spaces, but but intentional design.

And it's I also think it's uh between these two uh the the art of the possible is higher uh because of the low use uh that that exists in here.

And I think being proactive on how we manage um these two properties, whether there's opportunity for the city to get involved early, um, but also in uh protective zoning, I think is important for both these properties.

Before you launch into I know where he's going.

Um so uh one of the things that the impact really got uh interested in is the idea of land banking.

Um so cities have less and less tools to really influence development.

Um, you know, and one of the ways that cities have begun to really be active in what they want to create and what they want to see to match these visions is own the property.

So um that that became something that was really interesting to impact, and um in this case, you know, there is some city-owned property where the city could theoretically partner with a developer to get exactly the development that the city wants to see.

So now go ahead, Regan.

Let me jump in real quick.

It it this is an exciting opportunity, right?

You have all of this area back here, and we own the majority of that.

This is the city's campus here and across the street.

So the council is really at a at a at a positive and unique crossroads where you do have a lot of direct hand influence on how this really develops out.

Now we do have other property owners that we'll have to deal with, but one of the great things is the tools that are already in your toolbox, the land that we own, and then the ability to set the vision for the future and then follow through with zoning for what that future looks like.

So it's you have a lot of tools at your disposal.

This is one of those mods where we can really make it come to life to show you what the other seven can do.

Yeah, and and I don't uh I don't want to give a giveaway of the whole game because there are a lot of property owners on there, but especially on mod four, I think we really have to have some strategic conversations about that that space.

Absolutely.

Question, like for that the community center, it is so old, and I think that people want to preserve it, but I also would love to see more use, like it has one basketball court that I've been in there a lot playing pickball, and that's the only room we have.

So is the idea to preserve that and expand it?

I've got a few ideas.

This isn't kind of the space uh there, but yeah, I've been bouncing some things around in my head that that is what's phase two of you know community center space.

Um for everything, it's always about you know what we're willing to invest and how much money.

Um I think I think it goes into this conversation because it does uh mod four connects then up towards uh the old community center and the activity center, but a better use of some of that space, uh, public-private partnerships that are in that space.

Um, you know, but again, it's it's you know what's the tolerance of of expense versus uh versus value that will uh our it's going to be an ongoing conversation, but I yeah, I feel the same way you do about it.

Well, there's also a desire for picture.

Doesn't this kind of give us you know, we don't have we don't have main street, you know, like really has dollars like I don't know you know that's my that was my impression of this, you know.

Oh that's what I like about that.

I love downtown with old main streets, I love old buildings.

I know that we don't have the old school main street, but my impression of this is that it gives us a way to create that where we don't have it, right?

Every city needs a heart, one hundred percent.

And I think I think that globally around four and five, really, if we look at that holistically, um and even even north of four, right, within uh the activity center community center, the space behind there, all of that I think really plays into it.

So I would even love to see like I don't even want to see modern buildings.

I kind of want to like let's let's try to kind of give them a little bit of vintage look.

Let's kind of create a little bit of a something that kind of looks like that you know, old school downtown main street, you know, where we don't have it.

But I think you would need to do something, you know, where people talk about they want more recreational space.

Um where the centers and people come and go and it could change the tone of the whole city.

I think you could tell.

I think you can tell that council and PZ are excited about Mars, mod four and five.

In the middle of August, so I think staff can tell that you know I I think there's there's a desire to start being proactive on how we manage those two companies.

So if I if I may, so kind of the the vision we're seeing here.

Um what's interesting is the vision is almost flip-flopped of what the current zoning is now because right now mod four is town center zoning, it's one of our original town center zoning districts that dates back to the original ordinance and it was approved in 2000.

And that is a pretty heavy mix of retail uses that would be permitted there.

But the idea is that is gonna long term become more civic-based because that's where most of our facilities are, maybe residential that can tie and enjoy that, maybe a little bit of retail towards the front.

Rob is here where mod five right now is primarily zoned residential.

Did we ever change the zoning on that?

The zoning on mod five?

Yes.

Okay.

I I I think it let's yeah, I again I think I I my ask to staff is to take a look at this holistically, come back with some recommendations.

Yeah, I I think Reagan is is trying to be very clear because we do hear the excitement.

So just to provide crystal clarity, the area in mod five is right now zoned as high density residential.

In order to have this vision come to life, that zoning would need to be something different.

So it used to previously be town center zoning, it probably needs to be something even more unique and specific to really get to where you're trying to go.

So if we are hearing excitement, what I hear is the conversation that you truly want to have is around do we reassess if we have the right zoning on that side and bring back some options on how we move towards the vision that you really want to see.

Agree.

Absolutely.

Yes.

100%.

I'm sorry, I'll upgrade one other thing with this one.

I'm sorry, I can't see it here, and I don't remember what I read before.

Um we had originally talked some some points along the way, we have talked about some verbiage in there about you know how it's how it's connected to the existing Dart line and future use to keep in mind that that could be a potential um transit, even though we're not part of you know any of that right now.

It was uh was it in there?

I'm sorry, I can't I can't see it.

So I don't know.

I thought it was in there when we had community worm too.

Yeah, that's what I thought too.

And I don't know that I see it here either.

Also, it's really small.

And I don't want this to say we're preserving where we have to have this as a transit station.

I just I wanted to I want developers to see that this 30 years down the road, this is gonna be there's gonna be a train coming through here that's not a freight train like it is.

I think let me show you the next thing and you'll catch the vision.

So uh mod five, we knew there would be some interest in in mod five, considering its direct connection to our our city center here at City Hall, our parks on the side, and given the feedback that we had heard from Impact from the community and interest in creating more of the town center, uh staff's been working with LJA to kind of uh develop an idea, just uh another concept of what something could look like on this site, and we did want to show that to you.

Uh great I'm shooting her, so the moon sorry, sorry.

That was America's next top model, but I was not nice.

Sorry, sorry.

So this uh this is mod five.

This is kind of a conceptual sketch, yeah.

Just a sketch, just high level showing massing potential locations of of retail buildings, perhaps living opportunities, uh and they can be of varying densities, heights.

This is not you know final by any stretch of the imagination.

Sure, but this gives you an idea of something that creates more of a town center with new places to gather, some preservation of existing trees and green space, some of the good trees along Murphy Road, creating a bit of a square, uh creating some walkable areas where you can um walk from one area to another to our beautiful municipal complex here as well, connecting to the parks, and these kind of land uses can be determined, you know, during the zoning process, various stages we can you know let's just say you wanted to provide more of a focus.

You know, this did have town center zoning previously, which was again this very high intensity retail use that could you know be implemented for now with the idea of one day if someone developer came along and wanted to you know combine a little bit of residential in there to mix it up, but you know, look at that in the future, but there's many opportunities, and this is just one example.

There there's there's something I want to I want to whet people's appetite.

It's a conversation we had years and years and years ago, and we never did it.

But if you're going to do something that's really cool that connects these two spaces, a pedestrian tunnel that connects the two sides of the road, right?

So um it makes crossing Murphy Road, you know, at that point really simple, right?

Right, part as part of that, and then but then also if you do it right and you've got kind of a continuity between those two sides, it connects them, it feels like one development as opposed to uh one on both sides.

So uh that I think would be really exciting.

And just one thing I did want to point out from councilman Altman's uh if you look at the bottom of the spine road that goes north to south, you can see a little outline there.

So the idea is that if there was some mechanism believe Murphy at this time would be for that.

Obviously, regional transit has its has its problems today, as we're all aware, but there is an opportunity to have a development here that could tie into that if there was some means in the distant future where that wanted to occur.

So it did go sit in there, uh a potential platform.

I see that.

I like I I like that.

That's a it's it's that's a good compromise on this.

That it's it's set up where the next group of you know the next generation of Murphy can make that decision.

But you also need hundreds of parking spaces if you're gonna have public.

We don't, we don't if it's a kissing public.

But we baked all of that in.

So you can see there's parking all along here.

Yep, there's parking all along here, all along here.

Like there is hundreds of parking spaces in this development.

Um, and we have another scenario which has another scenario just to show another scenario out just for funny.

All right, tricking us with all the good stuff.

Can we start on it next week?

But you can really have that charming architecture and everything in these ideas if if that's what you'll do.

So, what this version shows is more of a of a true mixed use scenario.

The what would be the west side, the left side is a multi-story building with ground floor retail, residential above, uh a more key central open space in the middle, offices on the east side.

What's interesting about these two areas is really each half of either are interchangeable.

So let's say you did not want town homes, but you wanted to try to focus on attracting someone to create an office park.

Well, we could have this with retail in the front, but was previously before.

So you can swap them and they can work.

I I like the mixed use.

Yeah, you know, I like that there's a little uh we we'll have to see.

There's a lot of conversations and the right developer.

But you know, as long as they as long as you know it's you you had a list of these brownstones, which is you know town homes, owner occupied, but very uh very fun in my mind, you know, if you've got that mixed use.

Yeah, they got our call.

So do you want to move?

Oh, I could go.

But this would be a very showcase piece.

Yeah, I either scenario, if you had brownstones or office, and the the real cool thing, I don't think you said this.

I was we were trying to research if the the transit portion made it into the final one, and it did not.

We talked about it, but it didn't make the final one per the impact, uh, what y'all decided.

Um but uh the this one would have uh this hotel would have um a restaurant, first of all, but uh the dividing line, each of the concepts could just switch out so um you can put the brownstones in this one and take you know, so that's how we designed it, is so it's kind of mix and match and it provides more flexibility.

No, I I really appreciate that you guys did some of these concepts.

Yeah, I love that.

I kind of want to jump in just a little bit.

Well, we have this amazing team of people here.

One of my issues, and I don't I'm not gonna get into it, but with hotels in Murphy, trying to find like boutique hotels and not just get a New Hampton because that can change, but the boutique hotel tends to start out nice and stay nice.

That's all I want to say.

We can move on to the next year.

But we I think it's important that you know if we are talking about a hotel, you can't always choose the flag, right?

So if you zone something to allow for a boutique hotel, it can be a holiday in express.

Um so you know, there's there's kind of that understanding that if it's kind of like if something's zoned for restaurant, you can't choose which restaurant.

Um so the city has to be, you know, aware of what's what I do know.

But if the city owns it, if the city owns it, that's a different story.

Right.

So this this this is our own on our land.

So that's kind of the whole thing.

Yeah, it's on Mount Murphy.

Oh, okay.

So about Mount Murphy.

Um, this is the public works facility.

We we baked in a 50-foot uh buffer over here, and they could potentially make uh piles and store their carts over here in the trees, you know.

Uh but but it would be screened naturally.

They're already borders, don't give them more screen.

Um it's a it's a practical layout, so that's the time with you.

All right, detangling now.

Yes.

Any other comments on mod four and five.

So this these are not proposed to go into the plan.

Um these are just concepts that the city can have as economic development tools, I think is how we were screening.

Yeah, yeah, but I I do think it's uh the city's at a point where we need to start making some decisions.

And I think I'd like to see staff bringing us options to kind of lay them lay the playing field a little bit.

We'll do that.

Okay, and um you'll see if if it does come that way, you know, there's ways to kind of uh figure out the different uses through you know a bubble plan and all that stuff.

So I know you guys have seen your share of rezoning requests.

Okay, so uh very exciting mod mix there, mod mod combo with four and five.

Uh Murphy Crossing is mod six.

I think uh most people are familiar with Murphy Crossing.

And uh existing plan development, retail, uh very vibrant shopping center, and it's got a bunch of it's got 29 total tenant spaces, and uh there's also a bank in this mod.

Um so mod six is envisioned as a reinvestment opportunity, and it could have um one to two-story office retail and restaurant uses organized around a shared green space.

So that could mean that part of it redevelops, part of it doesn't, but then there would be some sort of addition of green space somewhere in that development.

Um so it would be injected in there.

This this is this is this is probably one of the oldest uh and the infrastructure is you know terrible the the parking lot just disintegrating.

They'll they'll fix it and in two days later it'll be gone again.

So it could have some drainage problems that are causing that when we see just repeated potways like that.

That makes it a really good candidate for redoing it.

Yeah, no, the repairs are holding it.

Um so alternatively it can be more targeted site improvements, like uh putting in some green space and definitely fixing the parking lot, um, some aesthetics, like some a rebrand of you know, signage and facade, and then uh some addition of trees and and that type of thing.

I I'd love to see something that doesn't look you know designed in the 80s, right?

And um you know, cheap, cheap uh uh uh uh cheaply done kind of kind of facility, which unfortunately, I mean, it was one of the first things developed in Murphy, and so that's what that's what it is.

So I think it's really on that one.

It just needs a little razzle dazzle, just a little bit.

Yeah, yeah.

A little excitement.

All right.

Uh mod seven.

So this one is currently undeveloped.

Um it includes you know a sidewalk and whatnot, but it is on the west side of North Maxwell Creek Road, approximately 250 feet north of FM 544.

So it does not include the 544 frontage.

It's what's behind it.

Um so it's envisioned to be a destination-oriented marketplace that brings together food, activity, and gathering in a vibrant people-focused setting.

Um what we found interesting is that the feedback about this mod is the exact zoning, basically, uh, of what's on the property, and that's in the bottom right.

It's a concept that has uh you know, some commercial uses and maybe a food truck park in the bottom right, there's like a whole, you know, gathering space plaza component.

The thing about this mod though is if that concept in those people went away, someone else coming in might want to do the same mixture of uses, but the market has changed, right?

So they would want to redesign, but you would still be looking for that mix of destination style development and however they do their new design if they came back.

We so we've been discussing this piece of property forever, and there's been some false starts.

I've always kind of felt like you could do something really interesting residential wise, right?

Um townhouses, that kind of stuff, uh that then helps uh create a uh a mixed use in the marketplace, right?

So uh so you know, the restaurants in the marketplace tend to come and go in a lot of things, but when you when you have a built-in community, the kind of things that you know that ice cream shop tends to stay around a little longer, and and so uh so you're you're representing you know kind of an expansion of commercial space, which I think is fine.

Um certainly could uh could provide some opportunities, but my fear is what it'll end up being is somebody will buy it, uh they'll either continue to extend it and it'll just be more strip mall heading to the east, or you know, or maybe uh you know, another you know, grocery store like the last group that was there, an Asian grocery store, you know, those are the most likely kind of candidates that are gonna come in there, and you know, uh do we need another Asian grocery store in that location?

You know, it it's uh and just does it's not exciting, and if you so I don't know if turning it into mixed use with some upscale um kind of uh townhouses is the right idea, but at least what that does is it keeps it from just being you know another you know paint store, which is kind of what we're getting in the marketplace right now.

You know how in California they're making Costco's with with housing on top, right?

Yes, right, right.

I'm not saying that that's what we're gonna get here in Mervia, but I I mean that's be open-minded about that.

Does what I'm saying make sense?

If if it turns retail, you know, uh what are we getting, right?

Uh we get all the service things, it'll be another nail salon, another hair studio.

Uh, you know, it there's just nothing.

We we build the space uh and it just doesn't become something that's sexy.

And how do you do that, right?

How do you how do you make sure how do you how do you improve the marketplace as a whole, right, by bringing traffic into that?

And by having a population that lives there, well, that kind of is working when you look at um at the you know the the developments all the way down renter and and uh and uh at 75, right?

That east side, city boards.

City line.

Yeah, city line.

I mean, they've got it's mixed use, and there's a lot of things going on, and there's a lot of excitement happening in there.

So I think there's more conversations to have here, but just saying, oh, you know, commercial.

Um you know, we've said commercial and we'd like something cool, you know, for decades, and then we end up getting a nail salon.

Right.

Well, I think this one too would be big box, but still big box are you or how many of them are left or as as we had an Asian grocery store.

And the only reason we approved the Asian grocery store is it came with a food truck court in front of it, right?

And we were pushing that, which probably would have lasted a couple of years and been paved over and turned into parking, right?

I just the trust level that I have for these kind of things, any time you're in a strip mall, it is a strip mall, right?

And people are gonna use it as a strip mall.

And if they're not generating income from from uh something like little you know, park area, the water never no longer runs at at uh at the marketplace and the in the fountain, right?

The the the the spine trails aren't really maintained very well in the marketplace.

Why?

Because it doesn't bring money to the to the developer.

So I I'm not saying that that's what I want there, but what I am saying is if you say retail, my mind goes to just more of what we have, which is another hair spot.

And the ladies may love it, but it doesn't bring any revenue to the city.

We uh offer uh to a developers, okay.

We we put this out to developers as you know, the plan development what we want there, and instead of putting it out as for them to come to us, we put it out to them as what we want and see if we can get some uh we we make the decision what we want there.

We we can, like if we were to sit here and say, and I'm not suggesting this, I'm just throwing out that I think we need to think about this process property differently.

Um but if we were to say, no, you know what, mixed use is a really great idea, and I'd like some some uh some housing in this space, we'd rezone it, right?

Rezone it uh so that that was the purpose for it, and then people would see that that was that that was an available uh use for that.

That's how that's how you tell the developers your expectation through your zoning right now.

Your zoning doesn't account for this mixed use that the mayor specifically talking about.

So that's another piece that we can add to a later conversation when we talk about some of these mods that you really want to be move forward on and start to execute the vision.

I'm I'm planning the seat on this, uh and I'm not being negative, I just you know, retail in there, it's just gonna be what it is.

I just, you know, retail in there, it's just gonna be what it is an expectation there.

So part of what we know is that the design will influence the uses that go in there.

So this particular layout in the bottom right is it might not be what you're talking about, right?

So but if you did the same effort that you did on mod five when you kind of sketched it out and made it lay out like that top vision picture there, then it's going to give you a different use mix of of what would go in there.

Sure.

So just something to think about.

Yep.

Alright.

Exciting mod.

Alright, uh, mod eight.

So this was a hot this was a hot topic.

Um so this is the Kenny Drive tract, and um it's in a very it's it feels very rural um out in that area if you've never if you've never been over there.

But um the current zoning is parkslash open space, and uh mod eight is envisioned as a trail-oriented place that emphasizes nature, outdoor experience, and thoughtful integration with the surrounding landscape.

Um this wording's very highly negotiated, so just keep that in mind.

Um I'm gonna read it.

Uh development, if pursued, should be low intensity and oriented north toward the trail system, reinforcing the site's role as a destination for recreation and connection to nature.

Appropriate uses may include a low density residential concept, such as a pocket neighborhood.

That's what's shown on the bottom there.

Um, or a small-scale trailhead and nature-focused destination.

These uses may be supported by complementary elements such as event space, small shops, office space, and/or a restaurant, provided they remain secondary to the site's natural character.

Nature restoration, native vegetation, and partnerships that support environmental stewardship stewardship are central to the vision for this site.

Any future development should incorporate a trailhead and small park element, ensuring public access, outdoor gathering, and continuity with the broader trail network.

So there was lots of discussion on impact about this, and lots of discussion at the youth advisory committee.

I'm surprised people are even interested in it.

Um the biggest issue with this property is access.

You have just the one road can be expanded, but there's a lot of sensitivity to pushing a lot of traffic, you know, through those areas to an area.

Um but I do kind of, you know, the pocket community, I think looks really interesting.

I've always liked the idea of something that's basing the nature preserve, right?

Because the nature preserve is really that's your money shot right there.

Um providing an opportunity to uh you know for something that's really nice that's upscale, right?

The people who who are living there have a have the opportunity to have some that they know what's gonna be developed around them, as well as uh uh, you know, yes, it should integrate with the rest of the park system that's very important in that space, and we have trails that run way through it.

So uh yeah, I think that's good.

Yeah, for this location has been hotly debated, I think, for years.

I think that it has been brought before to the community about being zone residential.

Um no one, none of their neighbors like that idea, you don't like it at all.

Uh the proposed like trailhead destination, uh doing something with the park, it is connected right to the Timbers Preserve Park.

Um be a much more popular idea, it's right there on the bike trail.

Um this is a y'all mentioned it's city owned.

This is open park space, which has been for a long time, and it would be very sad in my opinion if we zone this residential and gave up space that the city owns as parkland.

So you you raise a point that came up and was debated extensively.

Um so I if I can summarize and maybe uh you can chime in if if I'm kind of misrepresenting it, but the the main conversation really revolved around this is an asset that the city has, and the city has parks already.

Um, and so does this need to be still a park, or should the city see some return on you know it as an asset and actually convert it into something that has life and development.

simply um so I if I can summarize and maybe uh you can chime in if if I'm kind of misrepresenting it but the the main um conversation really revolved around this is an asset that the city has and the city has parks already um and so does this need to be still a park or should the city see some return on you know it as an asset and actually convert it into something that has life and development and there were diverse opinions on that um but it does come a lot down to access right like it's it's definitely uh Kenny Drive only has so much capacity and the the character would be altered but there's an opportunity to really have trail oriented development as a small nature a very minor nature but it was really important to the group and to the final outcome of how this was made to really have that park component still be central to what and there's a lot of passion on this property and you're you're representing an absolute voice that I've heard for years.

It's not park it and it's never been dedicated at to a park uh it's not maintained it's raw land um and people like to look out their house and see raw land um and uh the passion of keeping it raw land is is why it hasn't developed in over 20 years.

So and I'm not sure that that's changing anytime soon.

But but but as park there is a lot of parkland around that area.

The entire nature preserve is parkland the Central Park or the uh um we call it uh uh the sit used to be city park now it's uh timbers uh park all in there uh and park land is a is something that drives an expense for the city it's good we need it it brings value it's something that's important but it but but when you're looking at what your assets are uh and you and where your expenses are when you put in parkland it should be something that is providing uh a for a need parkland is not a need for this area it's got a lot there's a lot of green space a lot of parkland something the if we if and when we ever do develop this um something that has a mixed use that that that uses the parkland that extends the parkland but uh provides an opportunity for uh development and um and revenue side as opposed to expense side on the balance sheet I think is is ultimately gonna have to be the uh the answer now whether there's political will to do that I don't know there hasn't been in 20 years so I don't know if we're gonna see it anytime soon but that would be my that would be my uh uh my call on that and from having lived there for 20 years right next to that track or basically on that track I remember when it was a force farm and the forest farm burnt down and all that right um wasn't there even a discussion one time of trying to reroute rent a road to go through that area there was expecting the better road that's crazy rental road to go all the way through and with John King and Rama and uh rock wall yeah and that's why that house keeps getting hit about backdoor right so my my dream like if I'd like it for it to say um open space too but if if we decide that we're gonna do something with it like my perfect scenario economics aside is kind of the upper right photo there.

I don't know if anyone's ever been to Clear Fork yeah that's this is trail editing that's that's clear fork in in Fort Worth and it's basically it's a big open space area but they do have one building and it has a restaurant and an upstairs bar restaurant the bottom floor also includes a bike shop because it's right on the trail the Trinity Trail there.

So those things I don't know if our community center and and and the complex has enough space for all of the events that people want to have in the city of Murphy but like if we had an event space there.

Where it's only used occasionally on the weekends.

But during the week it's it's okay so you're not always having people there.

Like those are some things that I would be interested in.

I just don't know economically if there's if any one would have a one want to have a bike shop there or a restaurant.

It might be more like city space that they use maybe yeah yeah I I don't disagree.

But you know I use use that encore trail and the and then trail along there all the time and I'm usually alone right there's not there's not you go to Trinity Trinity and you know you're with a crowd of people who are using that space and so having something that serves those individuals I think is very very important.

And it's a it's a good investment.

But um you try to uh but you know uh me and the three other people are walking that trail aren't gonna have much use uh in that space if we try to do something that's today, you're right.

I live close by that as well, and I'll I agree with what Ken said.

Uh uh I I think that uh the the property certainly to me has value.

I think it has value and I uh agree with that that that top right photo there.

I think that uh something something like that, I think would be good for that.

I I think that it the access to that obviously is not gonna be great, but you you're not all it it's not gonna be a uh uh continuous business like this would be in it.

It's more of an open space.

Uh I I would not be opposed to that.

I'm also not opposed to just hanging on to it to do something just to be doing something too.

Uh I'm not opposed to just writing it set.

My full I fully expect that in 20 years this conversation will be happening.

Yeah, I I don't I don't want to.

I I'm I'm fine with it the way it is too.

Yeah, I have a noodle and I think it should stay the way it is at at this point.

Um that design and the right up a corner, I get like work it's great for that.

I I don't know if I see that concept for that space.

I will say uh just to kind of clarify uh something, the youth advisory committee was so excited about this idea.

The teenagers are craving a space to be to have open air, you know, and just study and get on their their bikes.

They were really excited about the opportunity to have somewhere where they could maybe take their backpack but also you know, get on their bike and actually bike to.

And so uh like the idea of having trail oriented development kind of just blew their mind and they were so excited and they really latched on to it.

So um as we think about too uh the the people of Murphy, uh teenagers are are a key segment too, you know, the whole idle hands type of thing, but if they have somewhere to go, uh not that this would be like a teen hangout or anything, but um they're people are craving that space to be able to be, you know, they call it alone together, right?

So uh you could just go somewhere to um study, and you've got all these people working from home that are looking for somewhere else to relocate and get a change of scenery, so having uh, you know, some not co-working space that is sponsored, but just tables, you know, for people to sit and maybe have their laptop.

So with us wouldn't this also be one of the best areas to incorporate I think you have a photo in it somewhere here, you know, the restaurant.

I think you have a photo of that same place, but it's the restaurant with the dog park.

Oh yeah, it's kind of it's patio like it's a I think it's more patio seating than it is restaurant.

I don't know, I took my dog there one time.

You know, you mean like lazy dog or something?

But in the bottom right picture, some something like that.

No, it's over near in in Grandview.

It's like in it's like a 45 minute drive from here, and that's why I didn't take I haven't taken it again.

I'm like so long, you know, something that that has maybe an outdoor element or you know, it was it's a small restaurant because literally you're ordering you know, from like a window.

I don't even remember if they have indoor seating.

You know, but you have this huge patio with tons of tables, you know, and a dog park, which we don't have you know, I don't do we have a dog parking.

Shop I don't think so.

So like we don't even have a dog park, so that might be and there's a lot of people that walk every time I go by there's a dog park.

I use I mean I live you know in the timbers.

So I'm using that area all the time to lock my dog.

Not necessarily the easement because I want to I don't him and the bikes, and I'm like I don't know about using the electronics so much, but we will walk, you know, we'll do laps around the nature preserve, you know, so that way we have trees and stuff like that.

But to have something like that there, you know, we're like stop and coffee or the the road the road access to that though.

I mean mimosa drive and what else is that.

It would be a biking trail destination, most likely because of that.

Yeah, I think if we provided opportunities like that.

Like to your point, I think a lot of people who just want to get out during the day.

Yeah, yeah.

But uh trail-oriented development is a thing.

Yeah, um, this is not Dallas.

I'm not comparing Murphy to Dallas, just throw that out there.

But the Katy Ice House, you know, is very popular and it's right on the trail, and people are actually biking to it.

Yeah, and it's it's a thing.

Soiented element where it's not, you're actually not catering to buy to cars.

You're catering to people on the trail.

Yeah.

And there's nothing else really like that around us.

No.

So it would be a unique.

Yeah.

And the trail system goes to Richardson.

Yeah, the trail's going to be recommended.

And further.

So there's a really and people have e-bikes now, so they can go further with less energy on their bikes.

You know, and that can draw in people from further too.

Sure enough.

You see it.

My husband's a big uh mountain biker, and he's like, oh, it would be great if we have bike shop.

There's no closed bike shop.

He's like, I have to go really far to go to bike shop.

Yeah.

A bike shop on a trail.

It's kind of a happy there.

Yeah.

Okay, so any other comments on the I I think I think this deserves more conversation.

There's been some ideas thrown around that I hadn't really considered.

And you know, a mix of a lot of these ideas might make some sense.

I mean, that's what's written.

Uh is a mixture of all of it.

But it says like at the end of the day, if if anything goes there, it should have a trailhead and a small park.

And and I and I completely agree.

I I struggle because anything we do that's public facing that we have to pay for.

And so things that you know, I I like to have conversation about things that have a revenue side as well as a uh uh as an expense that I've got to that's one of the cool things about the pocket neighborhood concept is you can kind of uh combine the revenue side and and get rid of some of the maintenance and and really turn that investment into something, and then you could still have a trailhead in a single park.

And mayor, what one example of I hope I'm getting this right, Abra.

If you can you probably know in Fort Worth, in a different part of Fort Worth, one of my favorite restaurants is the Woodshed Smokehouse.

And so the Woodshed Smokehouse, that land is owned by the city of Fort Worth, and they they get to pick at lease out.

You know, right.

Tim Love probably built a building, but like it's it's stated land that that someone else is making the investment on.

Right, yeah, it's a city that control that's right.

Which is which is not a terrible idea, especially for a piece of property like this, right?

That's a really interesting thing.

Um pad sites, you lease those out, right?

And then we're we're the ones making $20 or $21 a square foot as exposed to things that our residents want.

Yeah.

Well good idea.

Yep.

I think this needs some additional conversation, but I like it.

I like it.

I think it's I think it's brought up some options.

So are we saying that we need to change anything in the plan, or just leave it as all right?

Okay.

Uh mod nine.

Uh this one is it's kind of interesting.

It's existing zoning is uh SF-20, which is single family.

Um it's got three single-family residences on it, and it's got Maxwell Creek running through there, it's got floodplain.

Not really a ton of developable area, but it's still something that's that's interesting.

So the vision would be just an intimate creekside destination that celebrates nature and um maybe some a patio style restaurant.

You see the pictures there, but some sort of strong sense of place and really having some sort of dining component would be great.

Um, but very thoughtful respect of the creek and preserving the natural features with and but this I just wanted to point out too with this one, it's both sides of the creek.

Yes, yeah.

I I think it would be so amazing to have creekside dining.

There's some really cool places in other cities, and it always draws people in no.

I completely agree.

And you know, this is we this has been there's been a lot of topics on this for a while.

Uh so I think there's a lot of opportunity here.

I think you're fine here.

Just uh again, as this area we know has kind of burrowing a lot of interest has been brewing.

Yeah.

Um the zoning on this area is also one of these spots in the city where the zoning is not in alignment with the with what we know to be the vision for the future.

So I agree, and since this is a collection of properties, I think this is another area where staff should be proactive in looking at the zoning of this as a collection.

Yep, we will add that to the list.

I believe it is an action in there, so you guys can just start working on that.

Are many of those parcels up for sale?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, they are for sale.

Two of the three.

The the two pulses to 544.

Yes, that would be the hard corner 104 South Maxwell Creek.

And the what's known as the Collins property.

Portion adjacent to the uh the oil change place.

Those are the same two for P and Z, and they were gonna incorporate that with the little what was the goat farm property.

That's the that's the two on the west side of the creek.

Yeah, east side of the creek is for sale today.

Okay.

Oh, that's the one that's for sale.

They calling process.

Not the ones with the houses on them, right?

One of the houses is for sale.

This one I'm confused.

Oh, I've seen it.

And there's there's there's timing.

There's there's been a lot of conversations with property owners in that space.

Okay.

And last but not least, McQuery Creek McCr oh, don't say it ten times fast.

Um Quirry Gateway.

So it's approximately eight acres, it's zoned uh retail and plan develop with and plan development and light commercials, so um future conditions really there's it's an interesting piece because uh it includes the existing buildings, which include uh you know, a church and some other commercial uses, but we've seen churches really activate uh land that they own with some vibrant commercial uses from time to time, so there's that opportunity, but there's also the opportunity to have some sort of destination-oriented gateway that um builds on the existing development, has some sort of play-oriented um you know vibe, and then alternatively you could do uh an expansion of those front buildings, you know, if if they wanted to expand their concepts into something something different, something bigger, but again, trying to keep that destination style plaza or patio experience where outdoor space dining and an informal activity become defining features, but really thinking that there could be uh connectivity across the site, so that if it does redevelop um, you know, in stages, then it could be a cohesive place.

I love that outdoor space.

I always like going to Grandscape, the star, um just to see the kids running up and down, and sometimes you know, I get to run up and down to um so I I really like that.

And then since it's so close also to the trail and the parks that you're gonna see a lot of kids, you know, coming over to kind of hang out in that space too.

So um I I like that.

The picture in the bottom right is a place in Heath.

I don't know if y'all have been to it, but it's called Standard Service.

It's a not a great name, but um standard service.

It has you know little pickleball courts and a a little stage, and it's got the those two-story office there, and it's an integrated concept, it's got a restaurant, and so something like that would be really effective there.

And that place is busy every time I go.

Oh, it's so busy.

It's everything.

Is it private or public?

It started as a public-private partnership.

There was a lot of incentive involved.

The city um purchased the land and and let them kind of do an overtime payback.

Um, but it it they paid it off quickly.

It was a it was an amazing concept that activated pretty quickly.

You this I love this concept simply because the location has been uh you've got uh you've got the neighborhood, the uh uh uh the Maxwell Creek neighborhood pool just to the north of it.

And they've been very um very gauged in how this property gets developed so that it doesn't become some industrial kind of uh kind of waste land, you know, right next to their recreation space.

So um I I yeah I that whole neighborhood could walk to it.

Right, yeah.

I don't know if there's something like this could be recreated, but I love the idea.

We got a question on the uh the existing church that is there on the far left.

I I know they own the property behind, and they're pretty immediate plans are to build us a new church behind their existing building.

Obviously, I'm sure that is taking or elevate, you mean elevate, yeah.

They're they're planning to build behind, they but they own the properties behind the church.

And a lot of times churches will communicate those intentions and then they realize how valuable the property is, and suddenly their plans change.

So it's possible, but uh yeah, if they you know churches can expand uh sure.

And I didn't know if they were taken into consideration in knowing this.

Yeah, and and something like this would be uh great use for but you know, churches um like I kind of started off with, they have really evolved into their new development too.

I mean, just this is not the same skill.

I've got qualified this is not Dallas, but if you look at uh Watermark, right?

Um they have beautiful trail-oriented concept, but it's got a coffee shop in there and co-working space and all sorts of fun stuff that can really be um an addition and benefit as well.

And I wanted to point out um this these two vision pictures specifically on the right side, you can imagine that this same type of development concept, if it went into a couple of the other mods, it would fit in with the vision as well.

So this model is highly successful.

Anywhere that an adult can eat or drink while the kids get their energy out, you know, is is highly highly successful, and then if you can put a little bit of office in there or a little bit of residential, the mixed-use concept, especially when you have an activated open space um incorporated in it, is is very successful, and you see um with this one in the top right, um, you know, the same element you you can't keep a kid out of that fountain, you know.

They will be there, but if if the parents eating and stuff, it's a it's a really enjoyable experience and highly successful.

And it's right off of our trail system, it you can connect to it from two, maybe three different um uh pathways.

So and if you can uh walk or bike, that's one less car on five forty-four.

Exactly.

Right.

I love it.

It's a way to alleviate traffic concerns by having some of these things that we're talking about with the mods to get there.

Um so that's the end of the mods, okay?

So that's a big piece of this plan.

Uh you know, there's there's not a ton of problems to solve in Murphy.

There's opportunities.

Well, we got problems.

Well, there are some.

There are some.

But uh other communities that are not built out, they have a bunch of uh problems that Murphy doesn't have.

So you've got a lot of great opportunities.

All right, placemaking, it's important.

We've got four parts of it.

Um we've got gateways and monumentation.

We talked we heard earlier that you know, if you're coming in from the west on 544, you don't really notice that you made it.

So we outlined three different types of gateways and monumentation.

The primary one is I have arrived in Murphy.

Uh the secondary one is I'm entering a special area, and then the third one is I'm in a special area.

So there's three different types of gateways and monumentation that the city can pursue.

But really, one of the important things is to have a cohesive brand that you're trying to put forward.

So we have that with the corridor effort, you've got um a color palette and whatnot that can be tied in to all of those efforts.

So uh there's a map that goes along with it.

So there's existing gateways, you can keep some, redo some, and then you've got uh new gateway opportunities that we've marked just generally um key entry points into the city or in the middle um of the city.

So uh this is the implementation section, uh land use, and then it goes into mobility.

Um so this is our master thoroughfare plan, not proposed to change, like I said, so this is all content that has been updated and refreshed aesthetically uh for your new master plan.

You've got new cross sections that match the old cross sections, that's what those are called.

Um type C is not in your existing MTP or the proposed, but if something does come through, it's their uh the option.

And then uh you've got one special consideration intersection, and that is 544 in Murphy Road.

It is um something that the city can really uh it's an opportunity, it's a regional opportunity.

If um, you know, tech stuff ever comes through there with some sort of improvement, uh it will be a traffic devastation, but uh there could be an uh an opportunity to redesign, right, with some sort of enhanced paving, public art, those type of things.

So we just called attention to this is the key intersection that you have in Murphy, not the only one.

Um but four things here: signal timing, median cuts, turning lanes and striping, and regional coordination.

Those are the things that Murphy can focus on to help impact traffic.

Um obviously you can't take away the regional nature of 544 and Murphy Road and some of the other access you have uh but really working with the adjacent cities and tech stots to work through signal timing in some of the median cut issues that have kind of developed over time, they might not be in the right place, and um you know, really some striping improvements can go far.

But coordination with our neighbors can uh might be required for some of those things.

So details, all of those connected trails, very important.

Um, you know, trail crossings.

We we detailed um those.

So this is the existing trails map.

You can see all the trails in Murphy.

Um it's kind of hard to see up there, but um really an opportunity to keep cars off of the road and let people recreate and um give them opportunity to experience that.

So that's your connected trails and paths trails master plan.

Um it's really hard to see, so I'll use my cursor, but um this symbol here, this asterisk is proposed creek crossings.

So this one at Betsy Lane is already proposed and happening.

This one would be new, uh y'all correct me if I'm wrong.

Um, and then this one is um proposed with text dot already, and then um so those would those would be new creek crossings, but this one at Betsy isn't existing, so that will be a another way to go east-west across um Maxwell Creek people are looking for.

So then you've got an implementation plan.

Any questions on the FLUP or I'm sorry, the future land use plan or the MTP, the Master Thoroughfare Plan.

Okay, okay.

Um last but not least, and you know, in terms of meat of the of the plan, this is our services and facilities, um, you know, kind of outlines, you know, water, sewer, storm, uh, public safety, energy, uh, parks and trails, the existing city departments, and you've got your existing facilities here all in a in a close proximity, um, and it outlines those.

Here's our existing parks.

You've got a great set of parks uh that cities would would kill for.

So um you guys have a great park system.

Some of them can have uh some more improvements that people would welcome, but overall people love the parks and they only want more.

Um so here's some things uh about how this plan can integrate with the the parks plan, and it's got the goals there, and it's kind of just trying to synthesize all those together so you can you can read through those if you haven't uh already, but all of these things are really playing into what was already planned for and designed.

Existing floodplains um are present, especially along Maxwell Creek, existing water lines.

You can see there's less water lines in the southern part of the city just due to the nature of development, existing sanitary sewer, same thing, existing storm, much less existing storm than there is water and sewer lines, but that's fairly common.

Uh the newer subdivisions put in put them in, and the older ones typically haven't, so they've got bargees and that type of thing.

Um franchise utilities, great internet coverage, got natural gas.

We go through some risk management and resilience things.

There's three types of risks that we kind of detailed the natural ones, technological ones, and human ones.

So a lot of times people are only thinking about the tornadoes and that type of thing, but there's a cyber attacks or a real thing on cities, and um, you know, the human-caused rigs risks like the collisions and crashes or acts of violence.

Um and then the vision for this, uh, pretty straightforward.

I'm not I know y'all are tired, so I'm speeding up.

Um, and then technological and natural human um vision here for risk management and resilience.

But did anyone have any uh changes or questions marked for this chapter?

You had mentioned a couple times like public art and the community feedback.

Um see that, or maybe it's in some of the action items.

Is that addressed anywhere?

Do you want to speak to the public art component or I mean we can add more, but it's it's kind of integrated into the mods.

Um, and then you have the opportunity at your gateways and monuments section to really use those as public art stations, if you will.

But a lot of times um cities have an entire public art conversation that is very detailed and policy-oriented.

And I recall it being uh an action.

Yeah, they're probably you know just work on establishing that um so we did talk about it in a recent council meeting that directly.

Yeah, yeah, a public art, which is a generic program.

Sure.

Maybe part of the parks master plan too.

Yeah, and not action.

Specifically mentioned uh public art, but we could put an action in there if you guys are interested.

A lot of cities develop like a public art master plan, and they really um one of the what is it?

2.1.1.

Thank you, Amber.

2.1.4.4.

And why didn't it come up?

Yeah, I was like it was there we go.

So we've got art walks, and then what other one, Amber?

2.3.4.

Thank you.

2.4.2 comments if we encourage uh redevelopment, such as outdoor seating, public art, shaded gathering spaces.

What was the other one?

Um 2.4 point six.

Yeah, that's that's that's a public art and pacemaking program.

Thank you.

Okay, yeah, I'm once I read it.

There were just a lot.

There were a lot of separate discussion.

Yeah, we've tried to hit the bases for sure.

Two point four.

So, yeah, there are some public art things in there.

Okay, um, and last but not least, your implementation, it is what you make it, right?

So if you have invested in this time this time and money into this plan, you know, it's really good to use it.

Um rezoning cases come through, redevelopment opportunities come through, incentive um agreements and all of that.

You really want to try to stay true to this collaborative process that has led to this document and the analysis that's led to this document because it will be it'll keep Murphy moving in the right direction and keep you moving in the same direction so that you can get some momentum.

Or keep momentum in some areas, but um it will be it will need to be um updated from time to time, so all of that is detailed in there, and when considering amendments, it's got a list of those things in there as well.

Uh but really just staying on top of it, uh reading it is always a great idea.

Um, and then looking at those actions from time to time and what kind of partnerships can be um completed to really bring the actions to life, and just making incremental progress over time.

There's a matrix in here that has time frames, short-term, mid-term, long term.

It's very important that you guys understand that just because something's long term doesn't mean you can't do it next year.

If the right stars align and you know, some sort of partnership opportunity comes in and money drops out of the sky from a grant, or who knows what uh type of circumstances, it can elevate these priorities to um sooner or later.

So this is just a guide, it's not a hard and fast rule for what type of priority it has to be, it's just something to start with, and then it has a matrix of all of them.

Look at all those beautiful actions, and that's it.

So uh any questions or comments on the implementation chapter.

I think I think it's very appreciate the work.

I appreciate the kind of uh the law process around especially the mods.

Um a lot of these things we've been so close to and been looking at for so many years, having kind of a fresh perspective on it.

I think was really helpful.

There's you even changed my mind on a couple of things, which is pretty impressive.

So I did I want to um echo what the mayor said, but I also want to say that you all did a great job of getting community feedback multiple ways, not just one way, but multiple ways.

So I think it's it's a reflection of what the community wants as well.

It's great.

And I love that it's just unique concepts to this area to bring in some of that difference.

Yeah, absolutely.

So I I do have a question.

So you all have had an opportunity to kind of see this plan in total, right?

And you know, trying to address every area with our best effort, but sometimes maybe there are areas that we've overlooked or things that you've seen have maybe spurred I don't know, additional thoughts.

So I just want to make sure that everybody is kind of sharing their thoughts before we really wrap up as you see this whole thing in total and really where the community and you all have said you want to take the city as we continue to build out.

We've had a couple of conversations about properties heading north, right?

Um and uh I didn't see any of those kind of pointed out as opportunities to talk about on North Murphy Road heading up towards the border.

Um are we going to include uh conversations of of those properties as any of this?

We definitely can.

I think what we heard here today for sure is that more of our kind of key intersection areas, it looks like the pathway is really more commercial, more retail or more mixed use, right?

Um in some of those heavy intersection areas.

So I know that we do have some of those to the north.

We can include that in the conversation, um, especially the one around rezoning that you all have kind of directed us to do to bring back.

But I want to I want to make sure that is kind of the temperature that I'm picking up.

Very good.

Well, and I do want to point out the proposed land uses on the land use plan at that Betsy intersection.

Uh, if you look at it currently, and um that really is also in line with the previous land use plan, these aren't necessarily new things, and so if there's any direction council would like to give us there, you know, please let us know.

So that's currently residential, yeah.

Like, for example, the south southeastern corners residentially zone, but long-term vision has been for years, and with the current plan is is neighborhood services.

Yeah, I think yeah, that recently became uh kind of a conversation.

I think we should uh I'd like staff to take a look at that as well.

Yeah, yeah, well, I I think there's things going on on all four corners, but the two on the east side of the road, north and south.

Um, there's there's trailheads on the north side that I think really need to be considered uh, and then uh developable land on the south side of that that I think needs uh needs a conversation.

So I'd like staff to take a look at that.

Um we've got the two ETJs all the way to the north, right?

Um that at least the one on the east side, I think has a lot of opportunity to develop, but even the one on the west side, I think conversations about what we want to do on those two properties.

Okay, and then um I don't know if it's too early to talk about, but the property where you know all the RV parking is on the north side, northeast side of Murphy uh North Murphy Road.

Future uh land use is not an RV park there, so you know, maybe having a conversation about uh about that one as well.

So that's that'll really round out, right?

That'll round out and complement the plan in full.

So yeah, we will we will absolutely take a look at everything that we've heard from you all tonight and bring that back in the near future.

Right.

But that's that wouldn't be plan revision, right?

It would be kind of implementation of this plan more detailed.

Yeah, no, I don't know that I have anything on the need for really.

I mean, I'm looking at the future land use plan, right?

And saying, you know, are where are these pieces of property that I do have that I think need a conversation from council?

Gotcha.

Okay.

Um so before we before we adjourn, I did want to go through timeline um kind of next steps if that's great.

Um so if you have comments or questions or changes, if you could try to have those in to us tomorrow.

Um hopefully you already have them drafted up or something if you if you do have little wording changes or something, um, we would like to get it all sealed up for public hearing.

Um so if you do have comments, please uh you can send them to Reagan.

I assume you all have his contact information or you can send them our way if you have ours.

But um, we have this joint Tanzanian City Council meeting today, and then um we the plan is already posted online, so uh you can direct anybody to it.

It is there for anyone to see and review and provide comments on if they have any.

And then we are looking at a joint PNZ and City Council public hearing on March 10th.

So that will be legal notice, I assume, in the paper and everything.

So once that's in um, you know, that's where the plan would be potentially adopted.

And if any of you send in any uh consequential requested changes, we will make sure that everybody's aware of that before you all take them over.

And you should expect some maybe there's like little graphics changes, um, maybe non-substantive wording changes as we continue.

Maybe someone will make a like I think this word should say this, or so you should expect some of those little changes, but if there are any substantive changes from this draft, they would be noted to you.

I have one I it's not a small change, but like will there be or could there be maybe like an executive summary version, like a one or two-page version.

I only ask because I think y'all have done a really great job getting community input and involvement, and I think people are gonna be interested in what this says and where it ended up.

But it's long, you know, like nobody's not everybody's gonna read the hundred pages, and I understand why it's wrong because it's a guiding document, but maybe there's like a shorter version or some way to communicate it to the broader public.

I would think the important that's more digestible.

Yeah, the more important the most important things, right?

The the future land use plan uh map, right?

So people can kind of kind of see what that looks like, the list of mods.

I think you know uh people would be really excited to kind of see those kind of things.

Um known future development kind of kind of I I I I would agree that maybe it's not in the document, maybe it's like on the website where the document lives or something.

Yeah, so um we had uh a city um recently that kind of pulled out the the key maps and graphics that they they wanted to really highlight for the community and they put that on on the website where the plan was housed after it was adopted and people have really received that very well.

So we could work with staff to kind of identify what we feel are the are the key pieces and and hopefully that would maybe could go on the website or something.

Sure.

That's all I have.

Is that that's it?

Um anything else from staff before we move into executive session.

Candy, where are we doing executive session?

Council chambers.

All the way in the back or no, just in the council chambers area.

And if if you don't if you don't need the executive session, you don't have to call it.

I do not need the executive session.

I don't think we need yes, okay.

Very good though.

I don't need it.

I think I think I think I think we're all kind of on the same train.

Yeah.

You guys agree that'd be really open.

Christine, do you believe we need an exec, or do you think we're all in the moving in the same direction?

I think we're pretty well all on the same train at this point.

Okay.

Very good.

Very good.

Okay.

With that, we will not call the executive session.

Anything else from staff?

Anything else from from uh from Christine, you think from PNZ?

I do need a time from both boards, please, Mayor.

Huh?

I need a time from both boards, please.

All right.

Council is adjourned.

It is 8 03.

Okay, thank you.