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Metropolitan Board of Zoning Appeals Division 2 Public Hearing - September 10, 2024

Board of Zoning Appeals IITuesday, September 10, 2024
BodyIndianapolis, Indiana
SessionBoard of Zoning Appeals II
DateTuesday, September 10, 2024
StatusFILED
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1:29

Okay, we'll get started.

1:30

Are we ready?

1:32

It's called to order.

1:33

This is the public hearing of the Metropolitan Board of Zoning Appeals, Division 2.

1:37

I am Craig Von Dalen, Chairperson of Division 2.

1:39

The other board members present are Patrice Duckett Brown, Tom Barnes, and Dave Duncan will be joining us later, probably within the next 10 minutes.

1:47

Legal counsel for the board today is Chris Steinmetz.

1:50

Staff members present today from the division of planning are Eddie O'Neill, principal planner two, Robert Ewan Hake, senior planner, Michael Wiegle, senior planner, Noah Stern, senior planner, Keely Mullins, associate planner, Marty Weiste is our specialist and secretary to the board.

2:06

The board has copies of the zoning zoning ordinance, which will be incorporated by reference into the record of each case heard today.

2:11

The proceedings of this hearing are governed by the board's rules of procedure.

2:14

The expedited cases will be heard immediately after all requests for continuances or withdrawals.

2:18

As each non-expedited case is called, petitioners and remonstrators interested in that particular case will please stand.

2:24

Those who intend to testify will please remain standing and be sworn.

2:27

Petitioners should be on your left and remonstrators on your right.

2:32

As you face the board, those who testify will state their name and address for the record before beginning to testify.

2:37

Petitioners and persons appearing in support of the case being heard shall have a maximum of 15 minutes for the presentation of evidence statements and arguments in support of the petition.

2:45

Remonstrators and persons appearing in opposition to the petition shall have a maximum of 15 minutes for the presentation of evidence, statements and arguments in opposition to the petition.

2:54

Staff will then present the administrators' comments regarding the petition.

3:10

No further evidence statements or arguments will be heard unless it is at the discretion of the board.

3:15

Please limit your testimony and evidence to the matters covered in the statutory requirements, which must be met in order for the board to grant a variance.

4:40

Forms are available and may be obtained from the board secretary.

4:43

Please be advised that contacting members of the board regarding a matter pending before the board outside of this public hearing process is prohibited.

4:50

Please be courteous and orderly at all times, and please be sure all cell phone ringers are turned off.

5:00

It requires three votes to take action on any requests.

5:02

We will take this into consideration when hearing requests for all continuances.

5:08

Your petition receives an indecisive votes.

5:10

Your petition will automatically continue the October 8th, 2024 hearing.

5:14

Is there any in the audience who has any questions about our procedures?

5:18

None being seen.

5:19

I will pause to check the to um take a look at the minutes from our last hearing.

5:24

Were there any changes or amendments to the minutes from members that were present?

5:28

No.

5:29

If there were none, then we will accept them by consensus.

5:32

Before we hear special reports, requests.

5:35

I'm sorry, before we hear special requests, I will ask for a waiver of our rules procedure to allow the board to vote for the expedited petitions and adopt their findings of fact without any additional testimony from the individual petitioners.

5:45

Do I hear a motion?

5:48

Duncan so moved.

5:50

Thank you.

5:50

And a second.

5:52

Brown, second.

5:53

Thank you.

5:54

I will call the vote.

5:55

Duckey Brown.

5:56

Ducke Brown, yes.

5:57

Duncan.

5:58

Duncan, yes.

5:59

Barnes.

5:59

Barnes, yes.

6:00

And I'm also a yes.

6:01

We'll continue.

6:02

We will consider special requests and continuances at this time.

6:10

Good afternoon.

6:11

I'm Charman Fry.

6:13

My address is 2850 Wolfgang Drive.

6:16

I am the petitioner for 2024 DV2015 at 2366 Winthrop Avenue.

6:25

And we would like to withdraw this petition.

6:29

That is acknowledged.

6:30

Okay.

6:31

And then I also have a continuance for 2024 DV2016 at 921 East 24th Street.

6:42

With notice for the October hearing.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Zoning and Land Use█████████████████████████████████████████41%
Sign Regulation█████████████████████████████29%
Procedural█████████████████17%
Transportation Safety███████7%
Transportation████4%
Historic Preservation██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Metropolitan Board of Zoning Appeals Division 2 Public Hearing - September 10, 2024

The Metropolitan Board of Zoning Appeals Division 2 met on September 10, 2024, at 6:00 PM to hear a variety of variance petitions. The meeting was chaired by Craig Von Dalen, with board members Patrice Duckett Brown, Tom Barnes, and David Duncan (who joined later). Legal counsel was Chris Steinmetz, and staff from the Division of Planning presented comments. The meeting began with procedural announcements, approval of previous minutes by consensus, and a waiver of rules to allow expedited petitions to be voted on without additional testimony.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Denise Henderson, a resident and property owner at 2625 North College Avenue, expressed concern about the lack of an orange notice sign for petition 2024-DV2-031 (2701 North College Avenue). She stated that neighbors were unaware of the case, though she received a letter. She did not object to the requested continuance.

Discussion Items

  • Continuances and Withdrawals: Multiple petitions were continued or withdrawn with board approval. Details are provided under Key Outcomes.
  • Expedited Cases (Granted): Two petitions were heard under expedited rules without additional testimony:
    • 2024-DV2-029 (6008 North Keystone Avenue): Variance for an externally illuminated monument sign. Approved unanimously.
    • 2024-DV2-030 (1420 Prospect Street): Variance for a building addition and parking lot setbacks. Approved unanimously.
  • Regular Docket Cases:
    • 2024-DV2-023 (1313 West 86th Street): Joe Calderon, representing Centier Bank, requested a variance to replace a former Chase pylon sign with a smaller monument sign (8 ft x 6 ft). The site is at 1313 West 86th Street, zoned C4. The proposed sign would be the third freestanding sign along 86th Street (two permitted) and would be located 130 feet from another sign (300 ft required). The petitioner argued that Centier had no rights to the other signs on the lot (CVS and Greenbrier Shopping Center) and that the new sign replaced one that existed for many years. The nearby Nora North Side neighborhood association voted unanimously not to oppose. Staff recommended denial, citing significant deviation from the separation standard, concerns about visual clutter on 86th Street, and the availability of alternative wall signage. The petitioner offered a commitment that Centier would not seek or permit a panel on the shopping center sign. The board granted the variance 3-1 (Barnes dissenting) subject to that commitment.
    • 2024-DV2-026 (3360 West 86th Street): Gabriela Muscara and others represented Chick-fil-A, seeking a variance to modify the existing drive-thru by adding a second lane and stacking spaces within front yards along 86th Street and Purdue Road, without required screening and without an exclusive bypass aisle. The site is an existing restaurant. The proposal would increase on-site stacking from 19 to 30 cars to reduce off-site backup. Staff recommended denial, citing safety concerns from drive-thrus surrounding the building on all four sides, lack of screening, and the business potentially outgrowing the site. There was no remonstrance; the Pike Township Residents Association took a no-position stance. The board granted the variance unanimously (4-0).
    • 2024-UV2-011 (1237 Evison Street): Justin Kingan represented homeowners Rachel and Corey Albin, seeking a variance to allow an 875-square-foot secondary dwelling unit (ADU) inside an existing detached garage built in 2011, exceeding the 720-square-foot limit enacted in the 2016 Indy Rezone ordinance. The exterior footprint would not change. Ten letters of support from neighbors were filed, and no remonstrance was heard. Staff recommended denial, stating a compliant unit of 720 sq ft or less was possible without demolition, and the existing garage did not create a practical difficulty. The petitioner argued that walling off 155 sq ft of already-framed space was impractical and that the standard was intended for new construction. The board granted the variance unanimously (4-0).
    • 2024-DV2-032 (9240 North Meridian Street): Joe Calderon represented the building owner, requesting a variance to permit three skyline signs on the east (Meridian Street) elevation, where one skyline sign per elevation is allowed. The signs have been permitted since 2007-2020; one is being replaced. The combined sign area (172 sq ft) is well below the permitted maximum (1,209 sq ft). The petitioner argued that alternative signage below 26 ft would be visually incongruent with the building's facade. The Nora North Side association did not oppose, with a commitment that no more than three skyline signs would be on the building. Staff recommended denial, stating that alternative signage below the 26-foot mark was available and that modern standards should apply. The board granted the variance unanimously (4-0).

Key Outcomes

  • Withdrawals: Petition 2024-DV2-015 (2366 Winthrop Avenue) was withdrawn by the petitioner.
  • Continuances Granted (to October 8, 2024):
    • 2024-DV2-016 (921 East 24th Street) – with new notice, motion passed 4-0.
    • 2024-UV2-026 (2355 North Meridian Street) – with additional notice, motion passed 4-0.
    • 2024-UV2-013 (5455 West 56th Street) – without additional notice, motion passed 4-0.
    • 2024-DV2-032 (9240 North Meridian Street) – two-day waiver of notice granted, motion passed 4-0 (the case was heard as a regular item, so continuity note: the continuance was for a different case? Actually, 032 was heard later; earlier, a continuance was for 2024-DV2-032? Let's check: A continuance for 2024-DV2-032? The transcript shows Joe Calderon requested a continuance for 2024-DV2-032 at 9240 North Meridian Street? Wait, no: On page 4, he requested a two-day waiver for 2024-DV2-032, which was granted. Then later the case was heard as a regular item. So that is distinct. Also, continuances: 2024-DV2-031 (2701 North College Avenue) – continued without additional notice, motion passed 4-0.
    • Staff requested continuances for three MSD Pike Township petitions due to unpaid filing fees:
      • 2024-UV2-022A (6701 Zionsville Road) – without notice, motion passed 4-0.
      • 2024-UV2-022B (7001 Zionsville Road) – without notice, motion passed 4-0.
      • 2024-UV2-022C (2811 Barnard Street) – without notice, motion passed 4-0.
    • An automatic continuance for 2024-DV2-025 (1670 Columbia Avenue) was acknowledged.
  • Expedited Cases: 2024-DV2-029 and 2024-DV2-030 were granted unanimously (4-0).
  • Regular Cases:
    • 2024-DV2-023: Granted (3-1, with Tom Barnes voting no) on condition that Centier Bank will not seek or permit a panel on the Greenbrier Shopping Center sign.
    • 2024-DV2-026: Granted (4-0).
    • 2024-UV2-011: Granted (4-0).
    • 2024-DV2-032: Granted (4-0).
  • Commitments: For 2024-DV2-032, the petitioner committed that no more than three skyline signs would be placed on the building. For 2024-DV2-026, Chick-fil-A representatives noted they would have staff directing traffic and that the modification would improve safety.
  • Next Steps: Several cases were continued to the October 8, 2024 hearing. The meeting adjourned after the board signed findings from previous hearings.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, we'll get started. Are we ready? It's called to order. This is the public hearing of the Metropolitan Board of Zoning Appeals, Division 2. I am Craig Von Dalen, Chairperson of Division 2. The other board members present are Patrice Duckett Brown, Tom Barnes, and Dave Duncan will be joining us later, probably within the next 10 minutes. Legal counsel for the board today is Chris Steinmetz. Staff members present today from the division of planning are Eddie O'Neill, principal planner two, Robert Ewan Hake, senior planner, Michael Wiegle, senior planner, Noah Stern, senior planner, Keely Mullins, associate planner, Marty Weiste is our specialist and secretary to the board. The board has copies of the zoning zoning ordinance, which will be incorporated by reference into the record of each case heard today. The proceedings of this hearing are governed by the board's rules of procedure. The expedited cases will be heard immediately after all requests for continuances or withdrawals. As each non-expedited case is called, petitioners and remonstrators interested in that particular case will please stand. Those who intend to testify will please remain standing and be sworn. Petitioners should be on your left and remonstrators on your right. As you face the board, those who testify will state their name and address for the record before beginning to testify. Petitioners and persons appearing in support of the case being heard shall have a maximum of 15 minutes for the presentation of evidence statements and arguments in support of the petition. Remonstrators and persons appearing in opposition to the petition shall have a maximum of 15 minutes for the presentation of evidence, statements and arguments in opposition to the petition. Staff will then present the administrators' comments regarding the petition. No further evidence statements or arguments will be heard unless it is at the discretion of the board. Please limit your testimony and evidence to the matters covered in the statutory requirements, which must be met in order for the board to grant a variance. Forms are available and may be obtained from the board secretary. Please be advised that contacting members of the board regarding a matter pending before the board outside of this public hearing process is prohibited. Please be courteous and orderly at all times, and please be sure all cell phone ringers are turned off. It requires three votes to take action on any requests. We will take this into consideration when hearing requests for all continuances. Your petition receives an indecisive votes. Your petition will automatically continue the October 8th, 2024 hearing. Is there any in the audience who has any questions about our procedures? None being seen. I will pause to check the to um take a look at the minutes from our last hearing. Were there any changes or amendments to the minutes from members that were present? No. If there were none, then we will accept them by consensus. Before we hear special reports, requests. I'm sorry, before we hear special requests, I will ask for a waiver of our rules procedure to allow the board to vote for the expedited petitions and adopt their findings of fact without any additional testimony from the individual petitioners. Do I hear a motion? Duncan so moved. Thank you. And a second. Brown, second. Thank you. I will call the vote. Duckey Brown. Ducke Brown, yes. Duncan. Duncan, yes. Barnes. Barnes, yes. And I'm also a yes. We'll continue.

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