Good evening.

I will now call to order the rules and public policy committee to order for what's today, Tuesday, February 24th.

We'll begin with introduction, starting with my colleagues on the first row.

Thank you, Vice Mrs.

President.

Thank you, Madam President.

Mike Doak, District 24.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Paul and A, District 22.

Thank you, Madam President.

Dan Boots, District 3.

Good evening, President Lewis, Andy Nielsen, District 14.

Thank you, President Lewis.

Kristen Jones, District 18.

Thank you, President Lewis.

John Barth representing Council District 7.

Thank you, Counselors.

My name is Maggie Lewis, representing District 5.

The first item on our agenda is proposal number 13.

Directs the rules and public policy committee to review and prepare a report pertaining to the fiscal impact statement associated with the City of Indianapolis, Marion County, MESA union agreement.

The floor is yours, sir.

Good evening, President Lewis and members of the committee.

I am Deputy Controller Jake McVay, and um I actually will be presenting both proposal 31 and 41 together if that's all right.

Counselors, do we have consent to take proposal 13 and 41 together?

Thank you.

Please proceed.

Thank you.

So as a uh as a reminder, municipal code section 291-610 requires that the controller prepare and present a fiscal impact study before a union agreement can become uh fully effective and enforceable.

So I will be presenting the fiscal impact of two and two agreements.

Uh the Mesa 911 employees represented by local 416 and the IMPD civilian employees represented by APSME Council 962 local 1239.

To fund these contracts, uh a 2.6% cost of living adjustment was included in the 2026 adopted budget.

Um the remaining expenses will be funded through the supplemental distribution of the public safety income tax uh that we receive in May.

And while OFM anticipates a need for a cleanup fiscal in the fall for these contracts, uh we are confident that we'll be able to provide our public services while also remaining within our revenue revenue constraints.

So start with proposal 13.

Um the fiscal impact uh between local 416 and Mesa is represented on uh in this table here.

Uh this covers 182 positions.

This agreement is for years 2026 and 2027.

Um this table shows the increase the increases from 2025 for the for each financial element of the contract.

The first year of this agreement provides provides increases to base pay ranging from 5% to 9% based on the position type.

Then in 27, all positions receive a 4% increase.

Longevity, which was previously based on uh half a percent of the annual base pay of a telecommunicator, will now be based on 1.4 percent of a telecommunic telecommunicator pay in 2026 and 1.5% in 2027.

Uh longevity will continue to be paid at the beginning of the second year of employment through the 25th year.

This agreement also includes a quarterly per perfect attendance bonus of 250 dollars and increases the night shift differential from one dollar per hour to a dollar and twenty cents in 2026 and to a dollar and thirty cents in 2027.

Um call pay, holiday pay, and overtime costs are reflected on this table.

Uh their increases are due to the increases in base pay.

The uh mechanisms for calculating those uh those components do not change uh proposal 441.

This uh the second proposal is between APSME and IMB IMPD on behalf of the civilian employees, which covers 198 positions.

This agreement also covers years 2026 and 2027.

Um this table shows the increases from 2025 for the financial elements of this contract.

All positions receive a 3% increase in 2026 and a 4% increase in 2027, uh, with four exceptions in 2026.

Uh property room technicians receive a 28% increase and alarms processors, case records processors, and criminal records processors receive a 10.77% increase.

These positions had the lowest base rate uh of pay in the previous contract and received above the three percent increase to recognize the critical nature of their roles as well as to narrow the gap between their pay and the next highest paid position.

The longevity rate is also increasing from half a percent to 0.65% of a civilian analyst three position.

Longevity is paid at the beginning of the third year, and then after the 20th year, longevity will be paid at 200.

Shift premium is increasing from 85 cents an hour to one dollar per hour.

Uh this contract allows for IMPD to create shifts to ensure sufficient coverage for their operations and allows them to do to determine which shifts will qualify for that premium.

I also wanted to um just provide an update.

Uh OFM recently reached a tentative agreement with the Teamsters on behalf of the mayor's Action Center employees and is in negotiations with APSME on behalf of IFD's civilian employees.

The fiscal impact statement uh for the Teamsters has been submitted for introduction at the March Council meeting, and we uh tentatively plan to present uh to this committee at the at next month's meeting.

And with that, I will um happily happily answer any questions.

Thank you so much for your presentation.

Counselor Nilson.

Thank you, President Lewis.

Uh thank you, Mr.

Deputy Controller.

Um, two quick questions just for um on the statement that looks like it was prepared at the end of 2025, end of last year, excuse me, in our packets and then your presentation.

Um I noticed that there were a few swings between some of the specific items is is that just due to kind of finishing up the agreement.

I'm I just as for as an example, the salary increases off by like or a difference of 200,000.

It looked like there was a lot moving around between what was in the agreement summary and what was in your the presentation.

So just was hoping you could first maybe point to that.

Looks like the net amount is actually a little bit less, but um just within the specific line items.

I see that you're looking at the fiscal impact statement for um oh I'm sorry, which uh yes for for Mesa.

Excuse me, my my apologies, yes.

Yeah, that second page of the fiscals.

Yes, I see I see that difference, and uh honestly I'm gonna need to take a look at what that um what that difference might be.

It might be a uh error, a Q and error or um a difference in the way that uh we calculated the totals.

Okay, yeah, and I think yeah, that would that would be helpful because I now I'm just doing some mental math here.

I think that maybe this number on the presentation could be wrong because I don't think that adds to 0.6 million.

Um so that would be helpful, thank you.

And I think the Madam President, one more question, please.

Um the second question I had was um so I know over the past uh I mean uh three years now we've been uh phasing in a number of of union contracts.

Um so does the for our understanding the public's understanding um the two contracts that are um that we are just hearing your presentation on, acknowledging, etc.

That will base into the budget.

Do these contracts expire at the same time as all of the other contracts?

So they would be good through the end of 27, or could you maybe talk a little bit more?

Because I know for IMPD, for IFD, for many other um union contracts, they're uh four-year terms, correct?

And so are are they gonna all mature at the same time and we'll be negotiating them again in 2028?

No, they do uh they all do not term at the same time.

Um you're correct.

Um the union contracts for our firefighters and police officers uh do term at the end of 2028.

Um we have uh um several union contracts, um which we have um done for the first time in the last couple of years.

Uh those contracts range from two years to three years to four years.

Um so they'll uh we have contracts that come um that will expire at the end of 2026, end of 2027, and at the end of 2028.

And so what's is is is all of that just done on a case-by-case, I guess a case-by-case basis with the bargaining unit.

Uh yes, on a case-by-case basis, and um uh with we keep in mind that we're not negotiating every contract at the same time.

So we try to be cognizant of that as well.

Thank you for that explanation.

Just as I know we've been hearing a lot of this in in rules for the past several years with the number of contracts and just an understanding of of where those are all at.

So I appreciate the explanation.

Thank you.

Additional questions from counselors.

Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak to the proposals?

Madam CFO, do you have anything to add to the conversation?

I know.

Okay, you would think that's you.

So again, counselor, there's you're good.

Okay.

Thank you.

So counselors, again, there is not a vote on the on the proposals, just a presentation.

Do you have any additional questions, concerns, comments?

CNN, I'll entertain a motion for adjournment.

We adjourn.