Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon.

Welcome to the December 17th, 2025 Metropolitan Development Commission public meeting.

We have a quorum and I will now call us to order.

We have asked Counsel uh Ethan, who it's his last day here, which we're sincerely going to miss to lead us with the Pledge of Allegiance, and we uh wish you the best on your new journeys as you cross the street over to the state of Indiana.

You're going to the Indiana Economic Development Commission.

Is that correct?

That's correct, President Dillon.

You've done a marvelous job, and uh you've had a full-time job keeping me organized, and I I appreciate it very much.

Would all rise for the Pledge of Allegiance?

You please join me.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God, indivisible, liberty, and justice for all.

Thank you, Councillor.

Members of the Commission, you received on Thursday minutes from the December 3, 2025 meeting.

Are there any deletions or additions to those minutes?

Hearing none, Commissioner Morerity, you were absent, so I'll ask you to recuse yourself on this vote.

Commissioner West, can I get a motion to approve?

So moved.

Commissioner Robinson, can I get a second?

Second.

Let me call the roll, Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergett.

Hergitt, yes.

Lyle.

Lyle, yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

They pass 720.

Moving forward, are there any special requests, continuations?

Withdrawals.

Mr.

Tuey, do you have a continuation?

Thank you, President Dylan.

I was uh asleep at the switch, and for that I apologize.

I'm here on uh case number 2025 Z O N One, which is a petition at involving Property 11207 East Washington Street.

The petitioner is the Indianapolis Public Transportation Corporation, our bus company, Indigo.

And we would respectfully ask for a continuance to your February 4th meeting.

The reason for February February 7th or February 4th?

I thought it was February 4th, but if Eddie, when's our next meeting?

I think it's I think it's February 7th, isn't it?

Correct, yes, February 4th.

February 4th.

And the reason for the length of the continuance is the uh bus company is buying this parcel of land from our adjoining property owner, and the staff has asked for commitments, which the bus company has agreed to.

The adjoining property owner has recently hired an attorney to uh review those commitments, and as part of those uh commitments, they've asked the bus company to provide an indemnity to the selling property owner through the date of closing.

The bus company is in the process of agreeing to such indemnity, but in order to give us sufficient time for this uh newly engaged attorney on behalf of the seller to get up to speed.

I think we uh respectfully would ask for it to be moved to February hearing so that I know it can be done by then.

Who's the newly engaged attorney?

His name is Jeff Codwell, C A D W E L L.

And who is he with?

I believe he's with himself.

He's in Fisher's Okay.

We have any questions for Mr.

Toy on this continuation request, which is which number, Kathleen?

Number four or five.

I this will be the second one.

Oh no, no, no, no.

It's at least three.

Okay.

I'm pretty sure it's at least three.

Mr.

Touie, how many requests how many continues?

This would be the third President Dillon.

Any questions?

Does anybody in the room have a comment about continuation number three on this matter?

Hearing none.

Can I get a motion, Commissioner Garver, to give Mr.

Toy his continuation until February 4th?

So moved.

Commissioner Hergett, can I get a second?

Second.

Let me call the roll.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergut.

Hergett, yes.

Lyle.

Lyle, yes.

Morarity.

Moyerity, yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dillon is a yes.

Mr.

Tua, you have your continuance on an 8.0 vote till February 4th.

We'd like to get it off the counter.

We can do it.

Thank you very much.

Have a good holiday.

Council.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Any other requests for withdrawals?

Presidents.

Kathleen.

President Dillon, members of the commission, staff would draw your attention to item number 11 at 2025 ZON090, located at 3309 South Arlington Avenue.

The petitioners representative submitted an email this morning indicating that they are withdrawing this request, and that would just require your acknowledgement.

Kathleen, I do have one quick question.

Was this storage units like garages that they were talking about?

It was going to be a distribution center.

What does that mean?

Well, they wouldn't have individual there proposing, they were proposing two buildings.

Um it would be uh there would be items in there and inventory that would have trucks going in and out of this to deliver and it to take.

When I went out and looked at it, I envisioned they were gonna put in storage units.

Am I wrong about that?

It's not storage units, no, but it is they are proposing two large buildings.

Okay.

I think if I'm let me double check.

Well, it doesn't matter.

Yeah.

So acknowledged it is now officially withdrawn.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

Any other continuances?

Shannon, you want to do your continuance?

Yes, President Dillon, thank you.

Um staff would like to draw your attention to item number 10, 2025 AO001 regarding flood control district, well field district, and stormwater management.

Staff would like to request a continuance to the January 7th, 2026 meeting uh for additional time to review um uh public comments and facts related to the ordinance amendments.

Questions for Shannon?

Is there anyone in the audience who wants to comment on this continuance?

Shannon, a very special thank you for putting together that document.

That's gonna be very helpful.

We can study that through the holidays.

Umer Morerity, can I get a motion to move 2025 A0001 to January 7th of 2026?

So moved.

Thank you.

Commissioner Murphy, can I get a second?

Second.

Thank you.

Let me call the roll.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergitt.

Hergitt, yes.

Lyle.

Lyle, yes.

Morerity.

Yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

It passes eight to zero.

I'm sure Shannon will have questions.

And uh we'll see you on January 7th.

In the meantime.

I'd like everybody to congratulate and recognize Shannon on her new engagement to be married.

Congratulations.

Decided for you.

All right, moving forward.

Any other continuances, special requests.

Eddie, that's it.

That's it, President Dillon.

Nancy, can you read the resolutions into the minutes?

Yes, thank you, President Dillon and Commissioners.

2025 R053 for public hearing authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to enter into a build operate transfer bot BOT agreement with Hagerman Construction to serve as bot developer of city market improvements and adjacent infrastructure.

2025A044, preliminary economic revitalization area resolution with request for waiver of non-compliance for waste management of Indiana LLC.

Located at 2025 Scoutfield West Drive, Council District 17, Wayne Township.

Recommend approval of six years personal property tax abatement.

2025 BB003 authorizes the expenditure of unobligated funds on deposit in the respective allocation funds to reimburse the bomb bank for prior expenditures incurred by the bomb bank, acting for and on behalf of the city pursuant to Section 26B 3G of the Redevelopment Act.

2025 Pier 14 authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to amend the contract with Taylor CIFCR Williams Design Group LLC and extend the term through May 31st, 2026.

This ends the reading of the resolution.

Thank you, Nancy.

We have three policy resolutions that are not scheduled for a hearing.

2025 A0044 25 BB003 2025 P014.

I would like to have a uh motion.

Commissioner Hergett, can I get a motion to approve all three, please?

So move.

Thank you.

Commissioner Lyle, can I get a second?

Second.

Thank you.

Let me call the roll.

Gar.

Garber, yes.

Her get.

Yes.

Do you have a recusal in there?

I do need to recuse myself on item eight.

Got it.

We'll go back to item eight.

Hergut is a yes on these three.

Lyle.

Lyle, yes.

Morarity.

Moriti is a recusal on 2025 A044.

We already is yes on all of the remaining.

Thank you.

Nancy, you've got that.

Murphy.

Murphy is a recusal on 2025 A044 and a yes on the others.

Thank you.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

So all three have passed.

And 2025 BB003, 2025 P014 have passed 8 to 0.

2025 A044 has passed six to zero to two recusals.

Moving forward, we have uh one resolution for a public hearing.

2025 R053.

Executive Director.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Thank you, President Dylan, and members of the commission.

I'm Megan Buksech, Director for Department of Metropolitan Development.

Uh the item before you is to enter into a build operate transfer agreement with Hagerman Construction to serve as BOT developer of City Market Improvements and the adjacent infrastructure, which is going to be starting with uh Whistler Plaza Improvements, which is the plaza just west of City Market.

We went through a competitive process uh earlier this year with a RFP for this BOT developer.

Uh, went through interviews and a pricing exercise and ended up with Hagerman Construction.

We're very excited to bring them on board and get started on construction of Whistler Plaza.

Happy to answer any questions.

Uh Hagerman is here.

Can I come forward, please?

Is that compliment?

Yes, sir.

Uh Nancy, would you please swear them in, please?

Yes.

Would you all please raise your right hands?

Do you swear and affirm under the penalties of perjury to tell the truth and nothing but the truth?

Say I do.

I do.

Thank you.

Can you walk the commission?

Please introduce yourself and your address and then walk us through your timeline that you're visioning right now.

Yes, sir.

My name is Rob Bards with the Hagerman Group 6238 Harbridge Road.

Uh with me, we have Don Jun and Brad Baston.

They will be our uh boots on the ground project executives and chief estimators.

Um so ultimately I at this point, President Dylan, I'll probably turn it over to Brad to talk a little bit about the timeline.

Brad, please introduce yourself, your address.

Brad Baston, project executive, Hagerman Construction address uh Hagerman Construction Alsonville Road.

Thank you.

I'm interested in the timeline.

Um, currently timeline is we're working through the logistics of the actual timeline of construction.

Pre-construction should be starting once awarded with value engineering to uh basically get to the budget, and then once we establish that, we'll start construction demolition approximately first quarter of this year or 2026, excuse me.

And then once we establish that, we'll start construction demolition approximately first quarter this year or 2026, excuse me.

So you're looking to start first quarter 2026 with demolition and in investigating environmental.

And concluding the project when it's it's to be determined.

Madam Director, you know the schedule.

I don't know the schedule.

So we still need to we're bringing them on board.

We don't have that final construction schedule just yet, but we will bring that before the commission once they've had a chance to get fully onboarded, onboarded, and we have that final construction uh schedule before us.

We're just not at a point right now to really be able to say where all that is uh arrived at.

Would you report back to us on a more solid timeline?

Absolutely.

Great.

Rob Yes, sir.

This project is a point of frustration with this commission and specifically with me.

Uh so I will be studying this timeline closely.

We need to get this done.

So make sure that timeline is on the money.

Uh we have a long history together.

You know I'm going to be on it, and I'm going to be following up on it.

Uh so let's let's uh I'm excited.

We've got new blood in the deal, and we're looking to move forward.

But gentlemen, we need to get this done.

And you'll start to see activity, like Brad said, early in 26.

The demo plan has already been, it's about 90 percent uh ready to go.

So uh the the first the first activity will be demolition, and you'll start to see that very, very soon.

Do you know what I'm thrilled about?

What's that?

I know who to call if the time lines absolutely, sir.

Okay.

Any questions from member of the commission?

Yes, President Dillon.

Go ahead, Commissioner Murphy.

Give me a brief summary of the scope of your agreement and and the scope of the work that you're contracted to complete.

Uh it's actually quite exciting to think about.

Um big picture, we're going to there's a lot of demolition of the plaza, which will expose the catacombs to really enhance the historic uh nature of all of those things that so few um citizens ever really get to see.

So it will become a um uh very aesthetic, and it's been um highly designed with landscape architecture and hardscapes.

Um so it'll it'll really make that plaza um uh reactivated space for uh for downtown and folks with within uh you know within the few blocks.

Um it will engage um trying to think the that there's a little bit of work in the alley in between the gold building, but primarily um it'll really instead of just a open space um the it'll it'll activate that whole area and remove that remove almost the the surface, I guess, to uh there'll be the viewing areas.

Uh we've got uh some fantastic renderings of what the end product will look like.

We'll be happy to share those uh with the commission.

We can uh we can get those.

I think we have those somewhere, but uh so that so the initial phase will be that demolition.

Uh there's and then some great utility work that we need to uh take care of and make sure that all the um you know everything that's below ground pipes and electric, there'll be some improvements to uh the I guess the the vault.

There's an electrical vault that will need to be created, um, a lot of removal of uh materials and soils, a lot of building back up.

Um, and then the on the once all that demolition is done, then the construction will be uh primarily um the hardscaping and um yeah, and and then the restoration of of those old uh that old masonry last thing you said restoration of what of the old masonry, all of the you know, I mean those that's how we'll resolve that.

I got it.

So your demo includes the east and west wings.

Just specifically the west wing.

Okay.

And then as you mentioned, the heartscape, but really no reconstruction is part of your scope or contract.

Potentially on it would be the south south side of the parcel um uh improvement of basically the there'd be a over slab or overlay of an existing slab, potentially to have a viewing deck viewing area looking north along Delaware overlooking the basically the catacombs so hard scape construction.

Yes, got it.

And this is maybe more a question for Madam Director, but is Hagerman a component of a larger development team or replacing a component of a development team?

Ultimately, um this situation's a little unique in a sense that DMD has executed professional services contracts with the landscape architect and structural engineers and those types of design, the you know the soft costs, those types of designers.

Um we'll be working, and we already have had meetings with them, we'll be working hand in hand with those designers.

Um at this point, um, I think it's safe to say we're we're we're coming in as a the construction management team to help manage the demolition crews and and then the um the restructure the the rebuilding of uh the project as we move forward.

So again, my question may be more for Madam Director, but um if I'm not mistaken, there was a different developer who the city had engaged with to redevelop the larger site.

I I I was under that impression.

So we had only uh undertaken architectural work, so only pre-development work.

We didn't actually have a contract for any construction activity, and so we've now uh DMD that was under a former uh developer, uh, those contracts.

Now this year DMD has entered into those agreements with those design firms so that way we could continue design work.

We didn't want to lose any time, and then through in parallel to that process, we issued the RFP full to bring in a construction partner to actually construct the improvements, and so now the design team that we've had under contract is gonna be working with this contractor group to actually begin execution of those improvements.

And that former contract you referenced was uh can you be a little bit more specific?

Well, you just stated it.

You said we had an agreement with a former contractor.

Former developers who's he looking for so that would have been Gershman Partners.

So we had a pre-scoping agreement with first men partner.

That's what I was looking for.

And that was just for architectural work, it was just for pre-development.

And we no longer have an agreement with them.

That agreement has expired, correct.

Thank you.

Now, who is gonna control the subs?

Will that be Hagerman?

Since you you guys will control the subs even though DMD contracted with them.

That is correct.

Got it.

But you'll have oversight on that as well.

Yes, so DMD owns the property, so we are the property owner.

The BOT contractor will hold all of the subcontracts for the work itself.

Understood.

Other questions from members of the commission?

Yes, sir.

Go ahead.

Uh, what are the specific boundaries of this particular site work?

And has there been a full scope developed on what the site works will entail?

Because I know there was a number of different activities that are planned for that block.

So, where does this particular work begin and end?

Yeah, so we're starting with Whistler Plaza Improvements, which is just the West Plaza of City Market.

Um, so the renderings that were mentioned, they're out publicly.

Um, those are the catacomb reveal, and so that is the scope of work that we're discussing today.

That's phase one that this BOT team will be beginning in 2026.

Final questions.

We have before us 2025 R053.

Commissioner West, can I get a motion to approve?

So moved.

Commissioner Morati, can I get a second?

Second.

Call the role Garber.

Garper, yes.

Hergett.

Yes.

Lyle.

Lyle, yes.

More erity.

More you're d yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan, Nancy, show me as recused, please.

Final vote.

Seven, yes, zero no's, one recusal.

Gentlemen, I'm gonna watch the timeline like a hawk, Rob.

Yes, sir.

All right, moving forward.

Nancy, can you read into the record the petitions of no appeals?

Thank you, President Dylan and Commission.

Petitions of no appeal recommended for approval by the hearing examiner.

2025 APP 006, 1701, and 2055 North Senate Avenue, Center Township, Council District 12.

2025 APP 016 at 2018 and 2022 North College Avenue, Center Township Council District 13.

2025 Z O N 122 at 1700 and 1730 West Thompson Road and 1650 Harkoway, Perry Township Council District 22.

This ends the reading of the no appeals docket.

Thank you.

We have before us 2025 APP 006 2025 APP 016 2025 ZON 122 2025 C Z N 846.

I will take a motion from Commissioner Murphy to approve all four of the no appeals, please.

So moved.

Commissioner Robinson, can I get a second?

Second.

Thank you.

Let me call the roll and Nancy show Commissioner Hergett as recused on 2025 ZON 122.

Let me call the roll as I see it.

Garver.

Garver, yes.

Hergit.

Hergett, yes, with the one recusal.

Thank you.

Lyle.

Lyle, yes.

Morarity.

Moyerity, yes.

Murphy.

Murphy, yes.

Robinson.

Robinson, yes.

West.

West, yes.

Dylan is a yes.

So they all pass.

2025 APP 006.

2025 APP 016.

2025 CZN 846.

Pass 820.

2025 ZON 122 passes 7.

Yes.

0 against 1 recusal.

Thank you.

That brings us to the end of the agenda.

I want to give a sincere thank you for a great 2025 to members of the commission.

And happy holidays to you going forward.

2026 is around the corner.

That concludes our meeting.

Can I get a motion to adjourn?

So move.