1:13Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon.
1:15May I have your attention?
1:18Let the record show it is March 4th, 2026.
1:23This is the meeting of the Metropolitan Development Commission.
1:27We will now come to order.
1:29Uh would all rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
1:54Members of the Commission, you had the minutes of the February 18th meeting delivered to you last week.
2:03Are there any additions or deletions to those minutes?
2:11Commissioner Lyle, can I get a motion to approve?
2:15Commissioner Hergett, can I get a second?
2:40I will now move into the continuances, withdrawals or special requests part of the meeting.
2:47Councillor Gibson, you mentioned something to me coming in the room.
2:50Yes, uh, thank you very much.
2:53President, members of the commission.
2:54Uh, I'm Councilman Ron Gibson, representing District 8.
2:58I would respect request that we uh uh move uh proposal for 2505 North Sherman Drive.
3:05I'll continue for a month until the your April hearing, if you would please.
3:09Council, that would be April 1st for the uh that that first April hearing.
3:15And we'll work very hard in that next 30 days to try to inform the community more about the benefits of this project.
3:23Because you are the excuse me, sir, that's the last time.
3:27Because you are the district counselor, I am going to make the motion myself for 2025 ZON 124, 2025 VARO12 to be continued till April 1st of 2026.
3:46Commissioner Hergett, can I get a second?
3:49Let me call the roll.
4:06Counselor, you've got your continuance till April 1st.
4:08We will hear it April 1st.
4:10Thank you very much, sir.
4:11Thank you for being here today, Counselor.
4:20Nancy, can you read the petitions into the record?
4:26Excuse me, President Dylan.
4:28I think we have some other other continuances.
4:33Kathleen, do you have a continuance?
4:36Sir, please come forward.
4:40Uh my name is Jay Sandifer, 5736 Madison Avenue.
4:44Jason, you got to speak up.
4:46Jay Sandifer, 5736 Madison Avenue.
4:50Uh I'm here for modification 024 and zoning 132.
5:09President Dylan, those uh those two petitions are items number 11 and number 12 on the agenda.
5:18I'm shuffling my papers.
5:31What is your request?
5:33Uh request to extend it to April 1st due to we've uh split ways with our previous attorney and we're putting uh everything together the correct way.
5:43I guess we were unhappy with the way it was presented previously.
5:46We have a request for 2025 ZON 132 and 2025 MOD 024 to be continued until April 1st.
5:58Staff, you have any comments?
6:00Uh thank you, President Dillon.
6:02Members of the Commission staff is ready to move forward on these, but would defer to and support the decision of the commission.
6:08Can I get a motion to move 2025 ZON 132?
6:15Commissioner Murphy, can I get a motion to continue?
6:19Commissioner Robinson, can I get a second?
6:22Let me call the roll.
6:37We'll go to April 1st, but we're going to hear it April 1st.
6:43Any other continues, special request.
6:50I think I have no, excuse me.
6:52I have no further continuances.
6:55Anybody else have a continuance?
7:01Now, Nancy, let's go over the petitions.
7:05Uh to the resolutions.
7:13First, we have 2026 R004.
7:17Authorizes the Department of Metropolitan Development to contract for placemaking services with downtown ND Inc.
7:24Incorporated for and an overall amount not to exceed $2,040,000.
7:322026 E001 authorizes the expenditure of 120,000 certified technology park grant funds for demolition and site preparation for slab located at 1200 Indiana Avenue in 16 Tech Park.
7:54This ends the reading of the resolutions.
7:59Neither resolution stands for a public hearing today, so I will take both resolutions 2026 R 004 2026 E001 together.
8:11Commissioner West, can I get a motion to approve?
8:16Commissioner Lyle, can I get a second?
8:19Let me call the roll.
8:32Congratulations to Downtown Indy Inc.
8:36And congratulations to 16 Tech Park.
8:39Both of your resolutions have passed.
8:47Let's read the petitions of no appeal into the record.
8:51Thank you again, President Dillon and Commissioners.
8:54The petitions of no appeal recommended for approval by the hearing examiner are 2025 ZON 075 at 5416 North College Avenue, Washington Township, Council District 7.
9:12Amended at 2802 Lafayette Road, Wayne Township, Council District 11.
9:212025 ZON 140 at 1802 Cornell Avenue Center Township, Council District 13.
9:302025 ZON 143 at 1860 Sugar Grove Avenue, Center Township, Council District 12.
9:422026 ZON 004 at 3 Beachway Drive, Wayne Township, Council District 16.
9:522025 CAP 854 at 6340 Intec Commons Drive, Pike Township, Council District 6.
10:24This ends the reading of the no appeals docket recommended for approval.
10:32So we have all eight.
10:37That have been read into the record, correct?
10:42Um individuals for 2025 CAP 854 here.
10:58Please introduce yourself.
11:01Chairperson Dillon, members of the commission for the record, Tim Oakes, Attorney NiceMoe with offices at One American Square, suite uh 2900, Indianapolis, Indiana 46282-0200 here this afternoon on behalf of the petitioner.
11:17Nancy, would you please swear him in?
11:20Yes, please raise your right hand.
11:21Do you swear or affirm an open use of perjury to tell the truth and nothing but the truth?
11:27Counselor, can you walk us through?
11:28I understand the hearing officer approved it, but it's not clear to me exactly what you're trying to get accomplished here.
11:33So I'd just like an explanation.
11:37So this is part of the uh in tech park project.
11:41When it was originally zoned over 20 years ago as a CS, it had a complicated development plan attached to it.
11:50In that development plan, it had a restriction that said uh in this geographic area, only one uh business with a drive-thru is allowed.
12:04And to define that area, it used distances from adjoining roadways.
12:12It was done in a very complicated manner, so when you read it, it looks convoluted.
12:16But simply what's really happening.
12:18Counselor, I would agree with you.
12:20That's why I'm asking you.
12:22So what's happening is those lines are being moved to allow my clients use, which is a seven brew uh coffee shop, which is a drive-through.
12:33So that had to be modified.
12:35That's what's occurring.
12:37And it's that simple.
12:40Counselor, thank you for being here.
12:43Secondly, on 2025 ZON 128.
12:56Counselor, I think I saw you in the back of the room.
13:01I saw the graphics on this, but I don't necessarily understand them.
13:05Is this a self-storage facility?
13:09Could you be sworn in and then talk about this?
13:13Please raise your hand.
13:15Do you swear affirmative penalties of perjury to tell the truth and nothing but the truth that I do?
13:24To answer your question, it is not self-storage.
13:26I realize that uh those words are included in the staff's blur, but these are small flex industrial buildings.
13:34They have spaces that are from 600 square feet to 2500 square feet that are used by your entrepreneurs, your contractors, uh, HVAC, plumbing, heating, and cooling.
13:46Um I think at the hearing examiner here we made it very clear that these are not self-storage, and these are really good opportunity spaces for your small business who may be operating out of somebody's garage.
13:59This is a place for them to operate.
14:01Why does it say self-storage?
14:04You'll have to ask staff.
14:06I I think this is a unique use.
14:08I don't think it appears expressly in the ordinance, and so I think that was the best way to describe it.
14:15Who whose hand on this from staff?
14:19Uh thank you, President Dylan, members of the commission.
14:21Um, it's it was blurbed to self-storage because that was the closest point of comparison that exists within our zoning ordinance.
14:27Um the petitioner is correct that it's closer to um self-storage for businesses as opposed to individuals, maybe mixing elements of commercial and industrial use.
14:36So, counselor, you're on record under oath saying these are not self-storage units.
14:40I am thank you very much.
14:42Thank you for being here.
15:002025 ZON 140, 2025 ZON 143, 2026 Z O N 004, 2025 CAP 854, 2025 C Z N 859, 2025 C Z N 863.
15:17Commissioner Hergett, I'd like to take all eight as one.
15:20Can I get a motion to approve?
15:23Commissioner Garver, can I get a second?
15:26Let me call the roll Garver.
15:33Can you show me recused on number six?
15:36Number six, which is 2025 Z O N 143.
15:57So seven of them pass, eight to zero.
16:09They pass seven to zero with one recusal on 2025 Z O N 143.
16:17Thank you very much.
16:21We're down to one hearing.
16:28Thank you, President Dylan and Commissioners.
16:31Our petition for public hearing this afternoon is a rezoning petition recommended for denial by the hearing examiner.
16:38Appeal filed by the petitioner.
16:41It is 2025 ZON 133 amended at 2650 West Epler Avenue and 5201 South Warmen Avenue.
16:52Prairie Township Council District 22.
16:55K and S Realty LLC by Mindy Westwick Brown and Mark R.
17:00Leach requesting rezoning of 38.53 acres from the DAFF and D5 F F districts to the I3FF district to provide for medium industrial uses.
17:13Well, all those intending to testify on this petition this afternoon, please stand now and raise your right hands to be sworn in at this time.
17:25Do you do you swear under the penalties of do you swear from a penalties of project to tell the truth and nothing but that you say I do?
17:35Are there any remonstrators here for this hearing?
17:41Seeing none, counsel only let me walk through the uh rules of engagement.
17:49You have 15 minutes to present your case.
17:52I will then look for remonstrators once again.
17:55I don't think we have any.
17:57I would then we'll go to staff for their presentation.
18:00I don't think there are any city counselors here for this matter.
18:04I'll come back to you for rebuttal if needed.
18:07Uh if remonstrators show, I'll give them five minutes of rebuttal.
18:11And then we were members of the commission will go to our ballots.
18:16Mindy, you're on the shot clock.
18:19Members of the Commission.
18:21Uh Mindy Westrick Brown with um Fagary Drinker here today, joined with our senior land use planner Mark Leach, as well as Tom Blinkenship, who represents KNS Realty as well as the Kapetsky family here if we have any historical questions that need answered today.
18:38As Nancy stated, the request is to rezone this property from DA and D5 to I3.
18:46Um in light of no remonstrators, amendments to the proposal, staff's change to support.
18:53I'm gonna walk through this pretty quickly if that's okay with you, Mr.
19:03Um shows the changes.
19:04I do think you need to explain the history.
19:06The original filing was staff was against it.
19:09Yes, you've amended it, now they're for it.
19:11Yep, that's exactly what this slide does, and we've got some background slides as well.
19:15So staff now recommends approval of this request.
19:18Um and the reason being, and I've got a slide to show this, but we have removed three of the residential parcels that were originally part of this proposal.
19:28Staff has indicated that it is important for the county to keep as many residential homes as possible, and so we've removed the three residential properties along Warmen as part of our request here.
19:41We've also included some prohibited uses which are listed out on this slide as well.
19:48Um, after hearing from the hearing examiner about this site and its its location, um so we've reduced the intensity of those uses by prohibiting those here.
20:00We also updated a preliminary site plan, which is not necessary for a rezoning, but staff was curious about configuration, and so we gladly drew up a site plan which showed how this site could be developed.
20:17It's important for us to get this rezoning and then think about potential development after the rezoning is in place.
20:25But with the prohibited uses and the potential site plan, I think we have a clear explanation to all of you of what we're asking to here today.
20:35We've also amended the project description.
20:38So this case was filed in November and had some amendments along the way.
20:44It also had some staff changes, and the staff report didn't really fully reflect all of those changes as there were staff changes in the in the middle of it when we presented to the hearing examiner.
20:58So now I think with the all of these changes and the site plan and the prohibited uses, we now have a clearer picture of what the request is before you all today.
21:07To orient you to the site, the KNS Realty and the Kapeski family owned this property, which is just south of 465, where the new I-69 meets up with 465.
21:21And you can see here that their property was split in parts with the construction of that I-69, which is part of the reason we're before you today.
21:52As I mentioned, uh here's a potential site plan, which helped staff kind of orient them to potential development on this site.
22:04The hearing examiner also talked about this parcels location, and and we agree that strong buffering is important.
22:12And so we wanted to show some photos that were taken recently about the existing trees and brush as well as the amount of acreage available for this transitional yard.
22:28And so here you're at the corner of Warman and Epler looking at the property, and all of that will remain as part of the buffering for Warmen.
22:43The site was previously zoned SU 23 for Grand Sand and Barrow mining.
22:53It had a man-made lake on it, and so in the early 2000s, the Capescu family rezoned the property for what they thought was going to be residential uses, putting homes around that man-made lake.
23:05That never came to fruition and was also not likely to happen with the building of I-69 there, and that man-made lake has now been filled in.
23:18These next slides show that with the construction of I-69, Epler has been improved.
23:25We have talked to INDOT about the quality after talking to staff about the quality of EPLER and its repaving, and have a slide here.
23:45That pavement's currently rated for a thousand heavy trucks per day for 20 to 25 years.
23:51So we think this property can handle development for this rezoning with the existing entrance, which will only be on Epler, and truck traffic will be oriented to the east and not to the west to stay on that new pavement.
24:13Here you can see where the new pavement is and a photo of that from Google Earth.
24:23We have two letters of support from Councillor Annay.
24:26Unfortunately, he was not able to be here today, but we have our original letter of support for this rezone, and then we've also been in contact with him after the hearing examiner's recommendation, let him know about the changes, and you can see that his new letter continues his support and appreciates the the changes that have been made to get staff support for this petition.
24:54We have seven proposed commitments.
24:57We're in agreement with the staff report.
25:00Um staff has asked us for a right-of-way to be dedicated.
25:03I mentioned we'll maintain the buffering and the 200 feet along Warman Avenue and those trees will um continue to be maintained or removed if if necessary.
25:18Um we have a slide showing that 200 foot buffer and that man-made lake is in the process of being filled in.
25:30And then the following commitments to close us out that um we'll keep the industrial development to the east side of the property.
25:42We'll only use EPLAR as an entrance.
25:45Trucks will be directed through signage to only exit towards the east and stay on that new pavement.
25:54Um there'll be some landscaping, which will be planted on 15 foot on center instead of 25 as called by the landscape um requirements in the zoning ordinance, and then you have our prohibited uses to close us out.
26:09And with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions any members have.
26:13Questions for the petitioner.
26:19Are there any remonstrators here?
26:25Uh thank you, President Dillon, members of the commission.
26:28Uh, thank you to be petitioner as well for their presentation.
26:31Uh staff will keep our remarks brief.
26:33Also, since this case is no longer being contested.
26:36Uh, the original filing um as discussed made multiple references to truck parking as a primary use.
26:41It included six residential parcels, including free are currently developed with single family homes and did not provide staff of a conceptual site plan for review.
26:49Uh staff recommended denial of that version of the filing and v hearing examiner agreed with that um on very February 12th hearing date.
26:56The memo generated by the hearing examiner cited concerns about the compatibility with adjacent residential areas and the comprehensive plan and suggested that uh light industrial development such as an I-2 district might be an option for a more appropriate buffer.
27:09Uh following that adverse decision, the petitioner engaged staff in further discussion and some changes were made.
27:15Um the petitioner outlined them uh pretty comprehensively, but uh references to truck parking as a primary use were removed, which wouldn't have been allowed in the primary zoning or within the floodway fringe anyway.
27:25They also amended a petition to remove three of the northern parcels that are currently improved with single family homes.
27:31Um gave a list of I3 uses to be excluded from the site, uh nine in total, which they had showed on those slides, and are also within the exhibits of staff's amended report.
27:41And they also provided us with a conceptual site plan.
27:43Uh that site plan wouldn't be binding or final in any sense, but just to give a broad um understanding of how the property might be developed.
27:51Um that provided site plan didn't appear to show substantial areas of outdoor storage or intensity similar to what might one might expect from I-3 and looked a bit closer to something that could be contemplated within I2.
28:01I think that uh more closely approximated what the hearing examiner had envisioned when they wrote that memo.
28:07Um overall, staff finds these changes to be productive and um thanks to petitioner for their flexibility in working to find a mutually agreeable solution uh for those reasons as well as for the context they provided about road improvements and buffering of the use lead us to recommend approval of the amended filing uh subject to those commitments of which there are seven in total.
28:25Uh happy to answer questions that the commission might have.
28:28Questions for staff Michael The new design 6937 kind of makes this an odd turn-in lot type thing.
28:46Were you concerned about that or all?
28:49Uh we had had some worry about access of trucks potentially utilizing Warmen or other local streets to the to the west of the site.
28:57Uh the petitioner did offer a commitment that truck access would solely come from those areas to the east for our some truck parking facilities on the trucks will only come off.
29:06They wouldn't be coming to or from areas from the West now be by signage.
29:13Uh that's the understanding provided to me by that commitment, yes.
29:19Counselor, is that correct?
29:21Thompson's closed, and so all trucks will exit off Epler to and go east.
29:26No, no uh egress ingress from Woner.
29:32Anything else, Mark?
29:33Yes, uh, nothing else.
29:38If you need to I'd like to waive that.
29:41I will I'll wave rebuttal not necessary.
29:43Thank you very much.
29:45Uh we have before us members of the commission.
29:512025 Z O N 133 as amended, and with Michael, how many commitments seven total commitments?
30:00Seven total commitments.
30:00And the seven total commitments, please go to your ballots.
30:04A yes passes the passes the petition.
30:09A no defeats the petition.
30:51Petition 2025 Z O N one thirty-three amended.
30:59There were eight ballots cast, eight yes votes.
31:03This petition has been approved.
31:07Thank you very much.
31:09Do a good job down there.
31:10That's a new new area that we need to take care of.
31:14It is a little odd coming in there off of 376.
31:19No, off the 37 area, but do handle it.
31:21All right, members of the commission.
31:23Uh that concludes our meeting.
31:26Let me take a moment uh in a sincere thank you to the Marion County Sheriff's Department for being here.
31:32Uh appreciate it very much, and so do members of the commission.
31:36Thank you very much.
31:37Can I get a motion to adjourn?