All right, good morning, everyone.

Um hereby call to order the August 6th 2025 meeting of the Board of Public Health and Safety.

Uh Andrew Merkley, the director of the Office of Public Health and Safety.

Um Abby, could you please take attendance and confirm we have quorum?

Sure.

Ingram.

Present.

Williams.

Present.

Lee.

Webster.

Present.

We have quorum.

Great.

Thank you.

Has everyone had a chance to review the minutes from our last meeting?

Any edits or discussion?

Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to adopt the minutes.

So move.

Seconded.

Any additional discussion?

Hearing none.

All in favor of adopting the minutes?

Aye.

Any opposed?

All right.

Well, thank you, everybody.

We will move forward with item number 080625A, Armstrong Consulting.

We're going to hear from Deb Deborah Cooper.

No.

No.

CFO for IMPD.

We are requesting the board's approval of a contract with Armstrong.

You can come take a seat.

Yes.

If you want to.

Oh, well, I actually need more space.

Yes, I do.

You want to scoot over here?

So you can both sit up here.

Yes, please.

Okay.

Yeah, sure.

Would hate to see you ladies standing.

Well, you know, it's fine.

It doesn't hurt anything.

Feel free to move.

Anything else is in your way.

Okay, thank you.

Get restituted here.

All right.

Again, I'm Debbie Hall, the CFO for IMPD.

We are requesting the board's approval of a contract with Armstrong Consulting.

This contract will cover professional services with Armstrong Consulting to train the executive staff and supervisors at IMPD in leadership training.

And I have Deputy Chief Terry here who can talk more about the training and answer any questions that you may have.

Is this the implementation of that study or I'm not familiar with what you're talking about?

I got the wrong group.

Over the course of over the course of several years, the previous uh uh chief operations had come to us with I thought it was uh a review of the organization, and at the end of that, which my recollection was it ended last year, was gonna be implementation recommendations.

This is unrelated to this.

No, this is this is training that I sought out that would be specifically geared toward our leadership and our supervisors within the agency, uh recognizing a gap in providing such support for our agency leadership outside of the umitial supervisor school after promotion, umgoing continuing education that's just geared toward leadership and supervision is somewhat lacking, and so this year I was intentional about trying to seek out training that I think would uh lift up our supervisors and our agency leadership uh to better serve our community.

So that's that's essentially what this this particular training is about.

Has nothing to do with the study from MPI, if that's what you're referring to.

I think I believe that's what's it.

Um and so this is from street level up through the side.

Uh he recommended a session that's geared just for command staff, and then a session that's geared for first-line supervisors and mid-level management.

So seems like a pretty reasonable price tag for that much training.

Especially when you consider uh the alternative would be for us to send individuals across the country to attend individualized sessions.

Uh to me, this seemed like the most cost-effective uh approach to get uh the biggest spread.

Thank you for um your work in finding this training and finding Chief Armstrong and his skill set.

A couple questions that I have are um one, how many people will be going through this training, and then how many train like how many sessions are there a part of the training?

Where's kind of some of the topics if you can share?

So the uh there will be one session for command staff and then two sessions for first line and mid-level management.

Uh, just to condense the amount of travel days uh with Chief Armstrong.

So I I can give you some of the training objectives.

And before we go there, the when you a session is that like one day, three days, four hour sessions, four hours.

Okay, so four hours with the command staff and four hours with the mid-level management sessions.

Yes, and we're doing two sessions for those two four-hour sessions.

Yes, got it.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

So um for the command staff, some of the training objectives would include uh identify uh guiding principles to evaluate decisions that impact others inside and outside of the department, uh, recognize the influence of personal values on leadership effectiveness and organizational culture, and the implement strategic decision-making approaches that consider both immediate needs and long-term consequences in crisis situations.

So that's the uh command staff, and then the uh frontline supervisor and mid-level management session is titled Tension or Trust, and some of the training objectives would include understand the critical role of community engagement in law enforcement and develop strategies for meaningful outreach, analyze the impact of reform implementation on department operations and community trust, utilize leadership strategies that emphasize a people-first decision making over purely outcome-driven approach approaches, and then identify strategies to enhance community relationships and improve department-wide transparency and accountability.

Okay, so in the in the topics you talked about community relationships, which is really really critical to the work that you all are doing.

But specifically, my question would be well, one of my questions is um it are there any topics or discussions planned around how you handle people in these, you know.

For some of us, it's the worst day of our life when we have that encounter with the police.

Uh and we can't get around or away from the tensions between specifically black and brown communities and police.

So, are any of those topics geared towards those areas?

Yeah, I think that when you specifically talk about uh people first decision making over outcome-driven decision making, I think that speaks to what what you're referring to.

Um Chief Ferguson in my meeting with him, I was very impressed with uh his experience and background and coming into uh the Ferguson uh community uh with the you know the events that transpired between the community and the police in that in that area.

He had a a way of trying of build bridging the gap there and building trust and implemented strategies, and so I believe that what comes through in his training draws a lot from that experience.

And I and I think that uh what I'm looking for with him, and this is part of the reason I'm presenting this to you guys uh and asking for your support, is implement imparting that on our leadership uh is critical to our organizational culture.

And getting that perspective that he has to bring to our supervisors will also allow our supervisors to lead by example and be able to guide our patrol officers down that same course.

So I I believe the answer to your question is yes, although I haven't attended the training yet.

I've sure I've had a meeting and and gotten some of the uh background information on the course of objectives.

That's still helpful.

But clear for clarification, you mentioned Ferguson.

Is that the community that Chief Armstrong is from or he was served as the chief of police there uh five years after the Michael Brown incident?

Thank you for the connection.

Yes.

Last question.

Uh the terms of the contract are to start upon execution and come complete at the end of the training.

Can you give us a little bit more context of what that looks like, other than so we have tentative dates of uh September 22nd and 23rd for the training dates, and we only need the contract um until the training concludes because it's not gonna be an ongoing this is a one-time uh training event.

But they're for this year, yes, for this year.

Okay.

So the dates are September 22nd and 23rd, and and until we have the board's approval, uh, we're not gonna move forward with signing any kind of contract or finalizing it.

But that's uh the reason the language is such thank you.

Any additional questions discussion?

All right, hearing none, uh I will entertain a motion to adopt item number 080625A.

So moved.

Second.

The motion has been moved and seconded.

All in favor?

Ah any opposed.

Hearing none, the motion uh is adopted.

Thank you all.

We will move on to item number 080625B, IU Health Methodist Hospital.

Hi, I am Alexis Webster.

I'm the assistant CFO for IMPD.

Um the next few items on the agenda all cov are covered under thank you, the CVIPI grant um for IMPD.

It this first one um for IU Methodist Health Hospital.

We are asking for a contract that will conclude over the three-year grant period, so it should end in September of 2027.

Um this is going to be a continuation of the ARPRA grant that the city was um awarded.

We had a non-fatal shooting um advocate program that was started through that, and this is just continuing those services.

So the this first one um the NTE is 146,250.

Um, like I said, this is for the time period of three years, so it's approximately $50,000 a year.

Um we the contract should have started um in October of last year with the implementation of the grant, but you can't do contracts until you have everything awarded and all of the documents signed.

So we we have had a little bit of a delay, but this we are working on getting that result now.

Question how how are these vendors uh selected?

So they were all partners for the ARPA grant initially, and they were partners in the uh the grant proposal development, they are all sub-recipients of the grant.

Okay, what are the um outcomes or outputs that we're expecting from this work?

So, what will happen is people that we come into contact with through this NFS program will be referred to the programs at IU and the other agencies we're partnering with.

IU is I believe providing mental health services.

Yes, they're providing um follow-up care um once they are referred.

Most of the people that will be headed towards the IU will be people who are actually the victims and need some sort of medical care along with the therapeutic services that come along after for any sort of trauma.

Okay.

So what happens with the NFS program is the people that we have on staff will assess the needs of the people involved in these incidents, and then they will kind of triage the care to address those needs between the mental health services needed and then the other programs that we are sending them to in the community.

And we'll get to those other contracts next, of course.

Um, but for the IU it's prime primarily the mental health service aspect of treatment um for that trauma of experiencing or being involved in a non-fatal shooting incident, whether directly or peripherally because they have a family member that may have gotten shot or something.

Mr.

Chair, would it make any sense or is it allowed?

I guess that these are all different aspects of the same grant, maybe to talk as them talk about them as a bulk, and maybe you can explain to us what each one which lane each one falls into, and then vote them separately, I suppose.

But um, yeah, I think we can do that.

Yeah.

So what we could do is we can go through the item numbers.

Well, actually, I have a question about this specific contract.

Yeah, yeah.

I guess I'm confused how treatment program for those who have already been involved with a um a non-fatal shooting or family members of a non-fatal shooting.

How is that funded through a crime prevention grant?

Because this is crime prevention.

It's not only crime prevention.

The grant has a little bit of a broader scope.

It is a community violence intervention program, which we have learned over past years that the trauma associated with violence requires some type of mental health treatment in order to prevent future crimes or dependence on other substances that um could lead them down a path of addiction or whatever.

So, what this is trying to do is treat the trauma involved in that as part of the program and also refer them to other intervention programs because we have found that a lot of time due to social connections in the community, these people are associated with like I I don't know how to explain this well.

Um but these people are are typically in violent neighborhoods and are exposed to violence consistently, and there's trauma that's associated with it.

So this program seeks to do a you know uh a more full fully rounded approach to addressing the mental health needs of the community as well as other needs through the other programs to in an effort to try to prevent future violence and future involvement in these social groups or um trying to break the cycle of it, if that makes sense.

I uh that's I see where you're going, but by quite so has this program been funded through this grant before or no just the first.

This is the okay.

So um ARPA funded it previously.

So this project started under the ARPA funding that the city received in general.

So in order to continue the project, because it's my understanding that they've seen some success in it, and also we've seen crimes go down, um, basically violent crimes go down because of all the efforts that we're you know putting towards mental health needs of the community and um other intervention programs that the city and OPHS is doing.

Um so we wanted to continue that.

We applied for a grant um for the community violence intervention program, which is just a continuation of that non-fatal shooting program that was originally funded under ARPA.

So we're just trying to continue those efforts that were funded previously with this grant funding because IEP's budget couldn't just absorb this project because our budget's so tight when it comes to you know services.

So I'll make the one last statement and then I'll be and then I'll hush up on this one.

It feels like from the seat that I sit in that wasn't the original intent of the crime prevention funds, it was more so prevention versus treatment afterwards.

Um, and it seemed like we're slowly just expanding that scope, and when that happens, it reduces the pot of funds that's actually available for the organizations like some of the ones that we'll discuss later to actually do that true prevention work.

Uh so I worry personally about that expansion of scope and what that does to the pool of funds that can actually be put on the ground to training programs like um pastoral Terry Webster's program.

Um Daryl, sorry, your dad's Terry.

Uh Emanuel Missionary Baptist Church, like that men's boot camp is phenomenal, and like, you know, I I just I personally just worry about that.

So I think like when you talk about crime prevention funds, we know that the council awards crime prevention funds through CICF for intervention and prevention programs.

This is not what that is.

Um, and during the ARPA era, like we had a lot of mental health services that this component was kind of part of that, but we had other programs under ARPA that kind of funded the mental health needs of our community.

So we were piggybacking on other programs to provide this piece.

Anytime anyone is involved in violence, I mean, of course, there's a mental health aspect that we need to address to get them back to a space where they're well in functioning and becoming a better community member because they're not struggling with those mental health needs.

So like this is just part of the program.

Um there are funds going to the other intervention pieces, and they're um and they're still getting funding.

I'm just saying that the people who are implementing this program and running the program saw a need to include this in the grant proposal, and that was why it was written into the grant proposal.

So this program, although it sounds like the other crime prevention program has nothing to do with the crime prevention program through the council that the CICF administers.

Uh a significant amount, and they've done a lot of good work with that funding.

Um, but this was a different program that was funded by ARPA altogether and had nothing to do with this crime prevention program.

I would encourage us to be a little bit more creative with naming these things so we don't have confusion.

Well, unfortunately, um C VIP is the name the cops office came up with.

So sometimes we're stuck with what this is.

Yeah, yeah.

And then I'll I'll be quiet.

No, no, that's okay.

Now I welcome questions and we're happy to answer them as best we can.

I think uh to your point they are while they are separate programs.

I think there is some overlap, right, between the Indianapolis Public Safety Foundation, um, OPHS and IMPD.

And I would love to see some statistics on what those successes are and how the program, the crime prevention fund programs, how they how they do interact, and because I think a lot of the questions that OPHS gets from counselors and from the from external probably IMPD as well, is how demonstrate to us how these are being successful.

And so if if our office can work with IMPD to maybe our data to understand better how these are working together, that would be awesome.

Well, yeah, I mean, I I do believe like after coming from being grants administrator for the city, I do see a lot of silos, and I think we need to coordinate better.

You know, um, I think we do a lot of collaboration, and we do communicate, but like gathering the data, I think that data is key, improving what's working and what's not, and assessing and evaluating what direction we need to go to to better serve the community.

So, like I am 100% on board with collecting data and collaborating on things.

Um, and I will say that there are deliverables associated with this grant.

I don't have those in front of me, but we do report, we will be recording reporting quarterly on our progress, um, who we're serving, what services they're receiving, and things like that.

Um, but back going back to your point, like, yeah, like we need to you know see how our programs are interacting and supporting each other because they are very much overlapping as you said.

Yeah, if you could share that data once it's collected quarterly, even if it's via an email that we get or just give it to us quarterly at one of these meetings.

Uh that information could be extremely helpful and valuable as we're talking with different groups in our spheres and the communities, it would be helpful.

We're happy to share that information um because it will also show successes for where things need to be improved.

So um, yeah, it's all public record anyway, so we're happy to share it.

I I would say I I wasn't trying to stifle any uh uh comments here, but I was thinking along the same line of of you, this doesn't necessarily sound did not surface sound to me like uh crime prevention.

Although hearing what you're saying, maybe if I can paraphrase what I heard, uh you I get shot, you're trying to keep me from going back on a revenge shooting.

Is that the goal of this?

Yeah, without you know saying that directly, yes.

Like, you know, a lot of these people um in past years, like since um Chief Height was here, like we had had conversations in the past about how a lot of these shootings are escalated because it's like revenge, you know, on each other and just retaliation and not doing conflict resolution and getting the right skill set and and just acting out and not dealing with the mental health aspect of why you're doing these actions.

So um over the course of several years, even since Chief Friggs was here, we were assessing what social and um like needs factors contribute to crime in the community and food insecurity, mental health, those are some of the key things.

Um and we've been trying to address that as a city, you know, over the past several years.

So there are underlying issues that could be preventing crime, and one of them definitely is mental health because as we've seen people self-medicate when they have mental health issues, it leads them down a road of addiction.

There are you know, retaliation, people don't have conflict resolution skills.

So, like we're trying to address all these different aspects of underlying causes that drive crime.

And so I think my point originally, jump it back again was I'm very linear thinker.

So this lane is is one lane, that's why I wanted to kind of discuss them together.

Which lane does everybody fit into?

Right.

I'm I'm not a broad thinker.

I'm pretty simple to be honest.

I wish things were you know straightforward like that, but um a lot of times, you know, when you're dealing with violence in the community, you have to come at it from different directions.

So um a lot of our programs are multifaceted and don't stay in one lane.

Um but there are connections for the scope of the project.

So maybe it's the final question for me.

Okay.

We can we there wasn't $3,750 available to make this around $150,000 number.

So like the other contracts I didn't write the proposal, I was not here when this was written.

I was upstairs on 22.

Um, but we get a finite amount of money, and like some like there are some instances where we get earmarks and it's like some odd number, nine like 963,000, or the max is 500,000, and then you've got to figure out the needs of everybody and try to negotiate what piece everyone is getting to make the project work.

So it's a very I don't know, it it's difficult to get solid.

I I love ground numbers, you know, just from a financial perspective, makes things so much easier.

Um numbers like this kind of drive me crazy that sometimes they're built based on what they're funding in the budget.

Gotcha.

So then the the total line item that all these sub-recipients are coming on are hitting is 7,000 700.

7,000 746,250 versus 750.

Right.

That is so interesting.

Yeah, like you know, I we take what we can get and we make the budget work.

So um we are we do, you know, um when we apply for grants, we use realistic numbers based on estimates and historical cost.

Um, and these are numbers that I am sure we got from the agencies we were partnering with.

So I I would make the recommendation that at the IU meetings there be no snacks because there's oh three thousand dollars.

I will tell you, I am food adverse when it comes to grant funding.

I'm like, that's just a big no-no, you just don't do that.

Or with city funds, we're not supposed to do it with city funds here.

Supportive from the community.

Going to Dwayne's meeting.

Yeah, Deb, can you I I think to to uh um point can you maybe give us just a high-level description of how each of these partners fits into the the goal of crime prevent prevention intervention as part of this program.

I believe and again, you know, I came back to the police department in April.

Sure, still trying to learn, and we hit budget season, so my focus has been on budget.

So I have not dug deeply into this grant.

Hopefully, Alexis can fill in the blanks where I leave them.

Um but basically the premise was that the programs that were picked up with screen proposal um were chosen because of the programs they offer, and that the needs that we have seen in the previous iteration of the non-fatal shooting program.

Um the people who are implementing this program, and I will say Kendall Adams is kind of over this one and driving the non-fatal shooting efforts of the police department.

Um these programs were chosen based on the specific needs or gaps that they needed they saw as being beneficial to the people that were running through the program previously.

Um that's about all I can see about that.

Um I think Alexis probably has more information on the actual programs themselves, which is why she's sitting here today.

Um she is overseeing our grants department at the moment.

Umly because she is learning too.

Um we've had significant staffing shortages in our grants area for all year, um, and there's been turnover the past few years, so it's been very difficult to keep things running on with no grant manager, essentially.

But um so inner beauty, um, their program.

Um they all provide services of some sort to all of what happened to my paper.

I apologize.

I think it got put on the just to give a little background.

The premise behind using these people is that we will feed people into their programs that they're already running.

We are buying spaces in their programs for the people that we need to refer.

Okay.

Um, so for example, so Inner Beauty, they they cater towards women and young women of uh I believe I read it was 15 to 35 age range.

Um they are located in Lawrence, uh, so they they focus more on that east northeast side of the city.

So when we we are able to assess the young women population, that that's going to be a better fit for them.

Whereas the boot camp connect, which I apologize for bringing the next one in, they focus on men.

Um so depending on the people who are coming in through this program, they are all going to have different needs based on what they have experienced, but also their demographics as well.

I mean that you can asset us assist a female a little bit differently than a male, they're going to perceive things differently.

So if you focus your trainings and your group support to those certain demographics, they're able to perceive information better.

Are these other than the um the first one we discussed?

Are these new awardees?

So they were all partners in the proposal when we wrote the grant application.

Um so they were part of the ARPA funding, and they agreed to continue assisting when we were awarded this grant as well.

If we were awarded, no, so they are not new with the city, it's continuing, but it is new for IMPDs, new funding source, but same.

Same programs, same partners, yeah.

Okay, thank you.

And they were selected based upon the work that they had done previously, right?

And the and the unique programs that they offer.

Um, I feel like Kendale's group assessed these organizations and the services that they provided through their programs and felt that they best suited the needs of the people that were running through the non-fatal shooting program and could meet you know you know their recovery needs from being exposed or addressing their mental health and um other needs in general.

Yeah, I can't speak specifically because every situation is unique in a non-fatal shooting incident.

Um, and since I'm not hands-on in the program, I can't answer, you know, why we chose to send someone to prescription of hope or to the voices programs or to the boot camp over other people.

Um but again, like inner beauty in boot camp serves males or females, so we needed outlets for each gender specifically that would meet their their unique needs.

So I just glanced that Internet Beauty's website, and it says they serve uh young women ages six to eighteen.

Okay.

And I know that emmanual missionary baptists, those are older men.

Is there an offering within your menu of programming that services women above 18?

I cannot answer specifically to say yes or no.

Based on my assumption, I'm going to say yes.

But I was not part of making those decisions of who, um, but I would be more than happy to make sure that we have those covered as well.

That would be helpful.

Yeah, and we definitely want to make sure that we serve every you know, age range of person in this program who needs services.

Um if we're not addressing everyone, you know, all the ages, like we certainly will look into that, and if we have to amend a budget or whatever to make room to provide services for the older women, we need we need to do it, and we will.

Okay, yeah, as I look at the proposals that you have before us today.

Um it's actually a gap on both ends.

Yeah.

It's a gap on younger men, and then it's a gap with older women, unless voices said voices, I think.

Fills in some of those gaps, but that clarity could be helpful.

Yeah, yeah.

And I'm sure voices does because I think there are three programs that were funding with voices, if I recall correctly.

Um their programs, so they have three options for us to send people through.

I'm not sure that that was articulated clearly in the scope of services.

Um I don't have the voice to scope of services, but so I do we have had a little bit of um trouble with working with some of the agents, the uh organizations we were working with to articulate some of those actual specifics.

Red flag, red flag.

Oh keep talking.

Yeah, I apologize.

Um so what my scope of service that I provided to you guys was very broad because we are trying to narrow all that down specifically.

Um my understanding is that voices um offers peer monitor peer mentoring and youth leadership, so I I'm assume that's going to cover a younger age age range as well.

Um, but they also cover um they also provide assistance and programs for families.

So that's also going to cover a little bit older age range for women as well.

And I will say we do leverage um other resources that may not be funded with this grant and feed people into other programs we have access to.

Um this group has um the people that are making the referrals have a wide range of services that they can refer to people to.

These are just the ones we that are being funded by this particular grant because there were gaps within the community on funding for these.

Um and I do know like voices had um their youth transitional housing funded with ARPA previously.

Um so there were gaps that were not funded with that because they lost funding through the state um not too long ago.

So this grant is supporting that program by referring people um to those services, and we can buy a spot basically in that program to refer people to that are dealing with housing issues and things like that.

So there are so many things that the team that is dealing with this grant have to address because when people are going through this program, some are housing insecure, some are food insecure, um, some need mental health services.

I mean, there's just a wide range of things that people need.

Um, and so while these are the ones being funded, there are other services being leveraged as well for the program.

I think that's a good idea.

That was gonna be my question.

I I assume this is one grant of a certain amount of money, Chief Adams in conjunction with however the process works with grants over IMPD has to say, well, let's use this money for these programs.

We have this other pot of money for different programs.

So hopefully in a city this size, we don't have programs helping people, and that's it.

No, like we try not to do a little bit of efforts.

I assume we do.

Yeah, um, we try to assess what's available um and try to for refer people to other programs too, and if we have other grants that are available, like we will reach out to, like, for instance, if DMD is running a housing grant, we will say, Hey, can you help us find housing for these people?

We have very good relationships with other agencies within the city, and we all work together to try to address victim needs, um, even you know, the needs of the perpetrators and things like that too, because through our re-entry programs.

Um, so we do talk a lot to each other and we do collaborate, and we do feed people in other programs when it fits the program that we're feeding them into.

So it's not very isolated to only this program.

Um, these are just what we're funding with this grant.

Sure.

So two things.

One, I've uh as I dive deeper into the um voices, it says it does say that they serve youth ages 13 to 24.

Um they serve both males and females, so right, yeah.

How is there opportunity to expand and maybe consider as funds are available, other organizations that may serve youth and young adults where there's gaps.

Yes, and that's one of the things I've been working on since I've gotten back to IMPD.

This grant was written before I got back.

Um but yeah, like we're trying to be more open in how we assess um who we work with under grants as well, and opening it up to more options for people.

We don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket, so to speak, because some of these programs are small and they don't have the capacity to serve the numbers that we have.

So like we have to be more creative and more aware of what's available in the community so that we can reach out and include them in future programs.

Um work there yet, but that's the direction we're heading.

Okay, I wouldn't I would encourage you to consider reaching out to Alenia Moore with ladies under construction.

Okay, uh it's a youth mentoring group for young ladies, obviously ages, I think it's like 13 to 18 or something like that.

So just another option to consider.

No, absolutely.

Um like again, like we have run into issues where people just don't have the capacity to take people report referring um to the program as well.

So, like we always want to keep those options open, and we need we need to know about the programs available.

We don't know about all the programs that are available.

I've not heard of ladies under construction, and I've been in grants for years.

10 years old now.

I think um I think this is just another example of making sure that OPHS IMPD foundation and well, the Indianapolis Public Safety Foundation and the Indianapolis Foundation are all aware of who's receiving funds, and because the crime prevention grants that go to the Indianapolis Foundation may very well be a good option for ladies under construction, right?

And so, or uh it would be a way for them to build capacity so that they could um apply for a grant through IMPD through these grants.

So I think I think we need to be more we need to coordinate and collaborate more to make sure that these grassroots organizations are all um getting a fair shot.

Yeah, because absolutely what happens typically is like oh we know of this program, we've heard this is a good program, we've seen the results of this program, let's reach out to them and partner with them.

If we don't know about the program, we we can't do that.

So, like it would be very beneficial to the city if like you know, we were all aware of what's available in the community because there's a lot of good work being done in a lot of successful programs that we just don't know about, and unfortunately, some of these agencies are so small, they can't you know raise public awareness for their programs, they just don't have a budget to get the word out, and it's word of mouth most of the time.

So um, yeah, we are open to working with others in the community and expanding our grants to others um because again, we need to serve the citizens at the end of the day, and if some programs don't have capacity to take who we're referring, we need to look at other options.

So thanks for making that comment and mentioning ladies under construction.

Something certainly that we should look into for future things, or if we have funds left over, maybe reach out to them and include them in this one as well.

And I also think that this is this is the beauty of our board here because it is I think that it goes back to the saying that it's not what you know, it's who you know.

Yeah, so since we are aware now of of these certain funds, we can you know start sharing sharing the actual myth, the actual message.

So I appreciate that comment because like a lot of the time, you know, it's reaching for the low-hanger fruit, the people we've worked with before, and we really need to expand um and stop you know relying on those people that we always go to.

Voices, for instance, like I know a lot of people in the city and county use them, and I'm like, are we asking them to do too much sometimes?

You know, um, so we do need to know about the other resources available.

Okay, any so I know we talked about discussing all of these um motion or all of these items at the same time.

Do you feel like we have adequately discussed all of them, or would you like to go one by one through good for additional discussion?

This is great clarification for me uh to kind of understand which lane each of these are in.

I don't I I wouldn't want to take a written test on it, but I feel like I I feel like I follow we didn't discuss all of them, obviously, individually, however, some of them are a little bit more straightforward than others, like uh the boot camp that Pastor Webster does.

It's for me, I had no questions coming into the discussion.

So I'm okay moving, move into a vote.

Okay.

So we'll vote on each one independently.

And if there's additional discussion while we're voting, please let's have those questions and discussion.

So for item number 080625B.

I will entertain a motion to adopt this item.

So moved.

Second.

The item has been uh the motion has been moved and seconded.

And all in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed.

Hearing none, the uh motion carries.

Okay, moving on to item number 080625 CNR beauty program.

Uh I will entertain a motion.

Uh first of all, is there any discussion on this one?

All right, I will entertain a motion to adopt this item.

So moved.

Second.

The motion has been moved and seconded.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed.

Hearing none.

The item has been adopted.

Item number 080625 D.

This is the Emmanuel Missionary Baptist Church.

Is the vendor?

Any discussion on this.

Hearing none, I will uh entertain a motion to adopt this item.

So moved.

Second.

Uh any?

Sorry.

All in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Hearing none, the item is adopted.

All right.

Item number 080625E.

This is Eskenazi Health providing food access for folks through this program.

Any discussion?

All right.

Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to adopt this item.

So moved.

Second.

All right.

All in favor?

Aye.

Any opposed?

Hearing none, the item has been adopted.

And finally, uh item number 080625 F.

This is voices inc.

Providing services to youth 13 to 24.

Any discussion?

Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to adopt this item.

So moved.

Second.

Item has been moved and seconded.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Hearing none, the item has been adopted.

Okay.

We did it.

We did it.

Thank you.

Appreciate your thank you both.

Appreciate you.

Thank you.

All right.

Do we do a roll call or a motion to see?

All right.

Seeing no further action.

I will uh entertain a motion to adjourn.

I moved.

Second.

All right.

Thank you.