Good morning.

Today is Tuesday, September 2nd.

This hearing of the local alcoholic beverage board of Marion County is now in session.

My name is Tyler Graves, and I serve as the president of the board.

Today we will hear cases in Speedway, Beach Grove, Lawrence, and then the rest of Marion County, Indianapolis.

Representing the town of Speedway to my immediate left, Mr.

Robert Staten.

Representing the city of Lawrence, Mr.

Jim Hinnigan, far left representing the city of Indianapolis to my immediate right, Mr.

Peter Luster.

And serving as secretary of this board is excise officer Amy Sunnier.

This meeting is being broadcast live on Channel 16 and will be rebroadcast several times in the coming weeks.

You are on television and the board requests that you act accordingly.

At this time, please silence your cell phones so you do not interrupt the hearing.

If you find it necessary to take a call or to have a conversation with someone here with you, please be respectful of others and step out into the hallway.

Here is the order in which we will conduct business this morning.

We will first ask individuals who have come to remonstrate to stand and come forward to the microphones hanging from the ceiling.

Give us your name and the name and address of the business you're here to remonstrate against.

We will then hear cases on today's docket pertaining to the town of Speedway, City of Beach Grove, and the City of Lawrence.

Next, we will call all applicants for new or transfer applications on today's docket.

We will then call renewals on today's docket, which have violations or remonstrators.

After we finish today's published docket, we will consider the cases that have been continued from a previous hearing.

All of those coming before the board today, whether you're an applicant representing the applicant, or are here to remonstrate, will testify under oath.

Officer Sunier will now administer the oath.

Do each of you solemnly swear or remember the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Thank you.

If an applicant should have remonstrators, it has been the practice of this board to accept one request for continuance from both the applicant and the remonstrator.

Should the board deem it appropriate, additional continuances may be granted.

Are there any remonstrators in the hearing room?

If you're remonstrating against the case day, please stand, come forward to the microphones hanging from the ceiling.

A couple of you raised your hands.

There you go.

Yeah, just come forward.

We had one just come running.

Yeah, right there, and just give us your name and the name and address of the business you're here to remonstrate against.

I'm Crystal Stone and remonstrated remonstrated against Moon Bar located at 148 East Market Street.

Thank you very much.

Yes, sir.

Haven't seen you in a long time.

It has been a while.

I see you.

David Kingan with offices at 618 East Market Street here regarding case RR 4936287.

The property at 720 East 38th Street.

I'm sorry, 720 East 38th Street, yes.

Do you know the name of that?

You've got the address.

I'm just one of the matchups.

All right.

Do you have that?

I'm looking.

Can you give me that permit number one more time?

RR 4936287.

Okay.

Give her a second.

She'll look at it.

Okay.

Um, this one's a renewal without violation, which means when they're renewed without a violation, they're not required to appear here.

Um, is anyone here representing Tekira Lichella?

Okay.

So, sir, what we'll have to do is we'll have to continue it to next month.

Um, I will send them a notice to let them know the remonstrance has been entered and that they need to appear at our next meeting.

Okay, to give them the opportunity.

I did alert both the um owner of the business and the owner of the property.

Okay, but I've got to let them know to make sure they're that the commission is let them know that they have notice.

They weren't legally required to be here today.

Yeah, so there so our next meeting will be Monday, October 6th, and um I'll send them a notice to let them know they need to be here for your remote.

Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

Any other remonstrators in the room?

Hi, I'm Taylor Schaefring with downtown Indiana here to remonstrate against Moon Bar.

Thank you very much.

Okay, thank you.

Also here to remonstrate against Moon Lounge 148 East Market Street.

Thank you very much.

Hi, I'm Clark Kirkman with Clark Quinn Law.

I represent the Moon Bar.

Um I would like to request a continuance on on this matter until next month.

I just received materials from IMPD uh this morning.

I requested those materials in a public records request immediately following their request for continuance the previous month.

Um I would like to have the opportunity to review those materials as bars right downtown, and I think Nexus is a real issue here as far as what they intend to present.

So I would like that opportunity.

Okay.

Um the IMPD took a uh asked for a continuance last month as your point.

And then that you received your information this morning.

This morning.

Well, I mean, I I don't know.

My point is we do state that here that we'll offer.

I mean, it's uh in the opening comments, it will offer each side a continuance.

Have you had a continuance as Moon at a continuance on this report?

So we were we were prepared to go last month before we found out about the remonstrance.

Uh we had a continuance in July, but because we had not yet settled a notice of violation, so it was continued that one month in July.

Uh we we settled it on uh July 24th, so we we were ready to move forward in August.

Does the board uh I would be more inclined to grant a continuance if they hadn't met with IMPD, but I know that there's there's been a meeting, there's been discussions.

I've met with Clark and with the owner.

Um we've had discussions at I feel like I mean he's had the only part I'll give uh give him this is the the if you've had your if your client hired you and you got the information an hour ago.

I would and I requested it on in the day after our the August meeting of this board.

I mean through the the channels that IMP offers for public records requests.

I mean they obviously assembled the materials, but they were not provided to me until this morning.

What materials did you request?

Calls for service I requested um yes, calls for service and police reports uh associated with the moon bar between from July of 23 on, which is when I client um obtained you know started to operate.

Were that was that part of the discussions during your meeting with them?

I I mean they did not you know have materials at that time for me.

What was I mean certainly I I alluded to the fact that there were I mean I had not yet seen any information about what they had as far as different incidents I'd say this they if they provide they provided at what time this morning?

Um one 9.15.

So then either they got up this morning and built all that or they've had it and didn't get it, and that's where I just come back to it.

Well the difference is what he received this morning is the binder with the materials, the exhibits for the remonstrance today, which may include some of the records he's requested and not necessarily might not necessarily be the same material, and we often hear cases where they received that information at the beginning of the meeting.

So you just got the exhibits today, but you've had the this record request.

Well, I I submitted the records requests.

I haven't received anything back other than the acknowledgement that I submitted the records request.

So I have not had any opportunity to review any incidents associated with the moon bar until when I sit down while this hearing's going on.

When did you send your request?

It was on it was Wednesday morning of so the the hearing was on a Monday.

I submitted it on Wednesday.

Okay.

That's 30 days.

Close to 30 days.

I'm inclined to say I don't want it.

You know, this case is obviously um high visibility.

However, you want to refer to it.

So I don't want it to be caught up in a question of did he have enough time or not?

So another 30 days to me means when we come back here next month, there is no more continuances.

There's no more arguments, and whatever the decision is is what the decision is as long as the state supports it.

I don't know that the state would hear this and say, well, he didn't have enough time.

But I think it's valid to ask the state commission.

How would that?

So uh for the board's perspective, I'll make a motion to approve the extension based on the timeliness of the information being shared with council and the clarity that it gives this board next month that this thing gets settled.

Yeah, we don't we don't need a motion.

We don't need a motion, I guess.

Yeah, not already the board wants to do it.

Peter, what do you want to do?

Second.

Okay.

All right.

So the board is granted a continuance till next month.

Moon will be heard next month.

Will moon will be settled at a local level next month.

So no more continuances will be granted for either side.

Okay.

Uh right.

Where did I stop?

Applicants appearing in Marion County.

Do you uh do we have any more remonstrators?

We're good on my situation right.

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Applicants appearing in Marion County are required to have four items before the board can hear your case.

Please lift it listen carefully because we cannot and will not hear your case if you do not have these four items.

First, the affidavit of compliance of posting the permit advertising sign from the ATC for at least 10 days prior to the meeting here.

Second, the affidavit of compliance or notice sent to the property owners and neighborhood organizations that you sent written notice to about today's hearing.

The third, the zoning affidavit obtained from the Department of Metropolitan Development, and the fourth, the Marion County Tax Clearance form from the Indiana Department of Revenue.

If you do not have all of these items, please let us know when you come forward.

In addition to those required documents, if you are are a new or transfer application, you are required to have an inspection completed and approved prior to your permit being made active.

I will give you your in I will give you my contact information when we call you forward and hear your application.

It is your responsibility to contact me to schedule that inspection.

I will not contact you.

All right.

So let's start with speedway today.

All right.

Calling R R 499-5346.

Apple Indiana 2 LLC 5664 Crawfordsville Road.

Doing business is Applebee's neighborhood grill and bar.

Uh motion for approval.

Motion for approval, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

DL 493-2487.

Aldi, Indiana LP 2502 Founders Square Drive.

Doing business is Aldi 77.

Motion for approval.

Motion for approval.

I will second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

RR 493 834.

Flying Squirrel LLC 5748 Crawfordsville Road doing business as flying squirrel.

Motion for approval.

Motion for approval, I will second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

That takes care of Speedway.

Have a great month.

Move over to City of Lawrence.

Okay, we have a new one is RR 4942690.

SKJMV Enterprise LLC.

We're doing businesses bank Bando Korean restaurant at 8015 Pendleton Pike.

Good morning.

Do you have your application?

And then you can have a seat at the table here.

That is good.

Okay.

Do you have your zoning form?

I thought everything was in there.

It's in here.

How would you send it?

I prepared it who I was bringing here.

I have a house.

So that is a matter of representation.

Morning now.

Control it.

So I don't know.

But I do want that feedback from them if they would say.

All right.

We're gonna wait all the time.

They're gonna go down to try to get the documentation.

Okay, we have a renewal is RC 4910903.

Veterans of Foreign War 7119.

We're operating as VFW 7119 at 6525 North Lee Road.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

I can have another renewal with is RR 4919 481.

Apple Indiana LLC, Applebee's neighborhood bar and grill at 1065 Pendleton Pike.

Make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Another renewal is DL492379.

Aldi Indiana LP operating is Aldi 81 at 10325 Pendleton Pike.

Make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Okay, we have another renewal is DL4930836.

Pendleton Pike Retailers Inc.

As Pendleton Pike Food Center at 9605 Pendleton Pike.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Okay, we have another renewal is RR4942440.

Fort Harrison Reuse Authority Location pending.

I will make a motion to approve.

Uh second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Okay, now we have a renewal with violation.

RR4900092 D and D Luger Inc.

operating as sports page lounge at 4603 North Post Road.

Anyone here for D and D luger Inc.

Yeah, come on up, sir.

Good morning.

Yeah, right there.

Yes, sir.

All right.

Um what's your relate your name and your relationship to the business?

Dennis Luger, owner.

Okay.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes, we had a violation.

What was the violation for?

I'm just trying to find it.

We had a violation for over serving a customer and drinking on the we had an outside area that was, I guess not on our property.

As far as our floor plan.

And we put into uh request to extend our floor plan because we have a patio that's fully enclosed, so we had the drinks out there that we are unknowingly not supposed to have.

We've had it that way for ever.

Anything else?

Um I think the bartender was drinking.

So they over uh served after three o'clock as well.

Yeah.

How often are you there as an owner?

Uh I'm there four days a week at least.

A lot more now because my two and four-year-old, well, they're two and four now.

A year or two ago, they were one and three.

So I'm usually there, I mean, five days a week.

During the day or in the evenings, uh day, and then um at six o'clock we do our shift change.

So I'm usually there, or my mother's the other owner, so she's there on days that I'm not there.

All right, so late at night.

Who's there?

One of you or just uh are you manager or uh we have a bartender there, so it's just our our staff, our bartender, and then our cook.

They're there at night.

How long have you had your license?

Fifteen years.

How many violations do you have?

Uh this would be the second one.

How long ago is the first one?

At least I mean, I I'm just guessing I would say eight, nine years.

Okay.

Well, you have a lot of violations here, pal.

Well, some I wanted to uh disputes because I feel like it was kind of I don't I didn't I mean we gave video for an incident that happened outside the bar and they got the violations from our own video that I knowingly gave to them.

So you understand Xise can come in and search without a warrant, right?

Yes, part of your application.

Absolutely.

And even though that might not have been what they were in there looking for, those violations did happen.

Correct.

Correct?

Yes.

So I don't know what you're disputing.

I wasn't here to dispute, I was here to just I thought I had to come forward, so I wasn't sure.

Well no, you said there were violations in there that you'd like to dispute.

So what would you like to dispute?

Well, maybe I was misinformed.

I'd I'm just here accepting my violations, I guess.

I'm sorry.

I misunderstood the question.

What are the rules for gaming?

Gaming as far as uh well for the what pool tabs?

Just yeah, your gaming responsible.

Um I mean we have the each each one of our tickets are placed on the walls, and we have a Tuesday drawing that's allotted under 300, and uh we do a treasure hunt on Thursdays, we'll do another drawing on Sundays.

But those are all through our gaming, through our gaming guy.

And there was one that we did do a board that was a dollar two dollars a person, and it was two hundred dollars, which I I thought because it's under three hundred dollars we're able to do, and it was a colt board, so it paid out a hundred dollars for the first half and a hundred dollars for the final, and that was the board that I got a violation of gaming on because I was unaware.

I thought if it was under 300, you could use it, but now we don't do it anymore, and I buy every board from our gaming guy.

So through uh Nana Cola.

I mean your employees are smoking inside.

Like they don't care.

They're not they don't think the boss is gonna do anything.

Right.

You're the boss.

I am.

How do you feel about that?

That'd drive me nuts.

It would drive me nuts.

It's this having those.

I mean, I've had a bartender, she's in there 16 years.

Still not right.

Who cares how long she's been there?

She works for you.

Yes, sir.

And there are laws in place that say that can't happen.

100%.

Agreed.

Jim, it's your I'm sorry.

It's your case.

So, I mean, with everything said here, I mean, I don't you're outside, you don't deal with you outside anymore.

We haven't, we have a sign there now.

It's I mean, I've literally sent my request to excis four different times on trying to get and they even I've gave them my uh I gave them a breakdown of how it was all like layout they wanted them to have me uh pretty much draw up my whole bar.

So I sent that to them who did you three months ago.

Uh oh, I have a number here.

Uh it was an excise officer, and then they gave me the number to a lady that deals with that specifically, and she is yet to come back with that.

That's because I've yet to receive any emails from you.

I would be the one to be going to.

Yeah, I was told what's uh officer.

I can't remember his name.

Swallow.

No, I he's the one I talked to about the violations.

But I I CC uh the person I thought might have been you.

I'm sorry if you didn't receive it.

Excise.

Brandon.

Brandon Meyer.

Brandon Meyer, yes.

Yes, ma'am.

That's who you talked to.

That's who I've talked to multiple times.

Okay.

I have yet to receive any an email from you with a plan change.

Okay.

Yeah, I did that.

Uh I don't know how it didn't get to you.

I apologize.

But we haven't even even extended our.

I mean, we have a sign out back that's essentially just smoking area.

I mean, I've got to do it.

Then it worked its way into being drinking on the case.

Well, it was always we just had pack pity, I mean, picnic tables back there.

We never recited before for it, so unknowingly, we just thought it was our regular area.

I mean, it's fully enclosed.

Um and uh now we have a gate that opens and closes, but yet we still have no drinking outside of that.

I'll give you my business card with my email address, my email on it, and my office phone number on it, uh, which is the direct line to me and my voicemail.

So I'll give you that so you can get those floor plans sent to me and we can get them look at them and get them updated.

Okay.

Did you want to do all that first?

Amy, or do you want to I'll just give them my card number?

Okay.

Um tell us tell me about the sales to in tox specifics.

What happened that night?

As far as what again, I'm sorry, the sales to intoxicated person.

What happened that night?

Well, apparently the guy was standing there and he slipped and he kind of fell on the pool table, is what my understanding of that situation was.

And then there became a fight out back.

I don't think it was anything to do with the guy who slipped inside the bar, but it was uh the it resulted in a fight out back.

How long had he been in there prior to him slipping and falling?

Um I don't have that exact knowledge.

I wouldn't say too long, but I it would be a guess.

Did you sell him a drink after he fell?

I don't think so, no.

He didn't really fall, he kind of like fell and just kind of lost his balance.

What are the signs of intoxication?

Signs of intoxication.

I mean, there's you have uh I guess flurred speech, uh kind of glass glossy eyes, um tough tough to focus.

Um I guess you just as a bartender gotta know if you're serving him a drink to know that I mean if he had one, I guess ten minutes ago he shouldn't be having another one right after that.

So I guess it's just more just being aware of the situation uh at the time.

Do you do you have rules in place that covers that?

I mean the bartender's well aware of that.

Yeah, we have so she didn't read it.

Yeah, it looks it looks like he showed up to your bar already intoxicated and was served with clear signs of intoxication according to the video.

Okay.

How many parenters bartenders do you have?

On staff?

Uh I have seven.

Seven bartenders.

Who was bartending this night?

Sheila Peterson.

Is she still work for you?

Yes.

How many of you we've had yeah, we've had conversations, and uh you know, I've tell my bartenders, I mean, not to drink.

And well, that should be a given, they should know that, but yeah.

I mean, you shouldn't have to tell them that.

Yeah.

Well, and then she's she's serving after hours.

So she's serving intoxicated people, she's serving after hours.

Um I'm trying to figure out what policies you are following in some regards.

I mean, you're you're employee permits, server training records, minimum food, smoking.

Uh we've got gaming, we've got change of floor plan.

Times when sales are uh lawful.

I mean, good lord.

Is this the same bartender that's been there for sixteen?

Well, however long you've said she's been there.

She's she's been there a long time, yes.

Yeah.

So she should know better.

She's absolutely no better.

So you so you let it go on.

You let it you let it happen.

You you turn a blind eye to it.

At that time, if you can I guess you can say that, yes.

So you're accountable too, yeah, right.

I'm absolutely accountable.

But yeah.

That's this just I don't know.

And when the when the officers went in to issue the violation at one o'clock in the afternoon, they spoke to Sheila Peterson and your mother, correct?

Yes.

Denise.

Denise, yeah.

Was Denise intoxicated when they were in there?

No.

They gave her a breathalyzer on the spot, too.

Is this your only job running this place?

Yes.

Your only source of income?

Yes.

So what happens if you lose this?

I I don't know, sir.

When are you gonna start running it that way?

I mean, fear's a hell of a motivator, and there's nobody fearful of you as the owners that are your employees.

There are none of this should be taking place.

Or you're not managing it like a business, you know.

Sometimes these things turn into sounds like it's running itself.

Yeah, it's like it's a party, it's not a party.

It's a it's a business.

You've been there a long time too, haven't you?

I've barred into there since twenty two thousand one.

I mean, the actual bar's been there for a long time.

It's been a long time, seven late 70s.

Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely.

I'm not remembering.

Yeah, there is tough.

I mean, we're we're we're trying our best.

I mean, are you the original are you the original owner?

This isn't you.

Are you the original owners or did you buy it from someone?

We bought it from someone, yeah.

That's what I thought.

Yeah.

So I sorry, Jim.

My concern is when we start seeing these kinds of violations, it's just a slippery slope.

It's like, you know, next there's going to be shooting or some other kind of violence in the parking lot.

How many times have the police been there?

Not very often.

I mean, a lot of times it'd be for an alarm.

I mean, alarm, I guess going off, but uh, I mean, not a lot for calls.

I mean, I have security there on the weekends.

We don't really need security.

I don't feel it during the week.

I mean, we're a regular bar, so you don't think you need it.

You don't think you need it?

Not during the week.

I mean, if it was a good one.

Who's gonna please your bar?

Who's gonna place your bartender?

Because obviously they're they're they're messing up for you.

Somebody needs to be there.

Some I mean they're somebody's gotta be in control.

Somebody's gotta be in charge.

I mean, it's so all right.

So bartender Peterson, she's still there, right?

She's you said she's the one that's been there for a long time.

Yes.

I would definitely, if you're approved today, I would definitely take the message back to her that you're this close that she's causing you to lose your 100% do that.

If you're approved today.

Right.

Well, I Jim, it's your call.

Well, I wouldn't make a motion to put him on a year's uh years probation too.

That's right.

To clear it to clear this up.

I mean, you come back with any more violations in that year, especially your bartender.

I mean, it's uh you're putting a lot of weight on her to keep your business livelihood going.

I mean, she's obviously failing you.

I agree.

Whether it's yeah, whether you need more uh to be involved more in the evenings.

I agree.

And your mother need to be there late at night.

You need to sit down and have a conversation with your employees and make sure they clearly understand what they can and cannot do.

Signs of intoxication, hours of operation.

Um make sure you have the minimum minimum food, make sure you've got employee records.

Those are all accurate.

We cleared all that off.

All right, Jim, I'll uh I I I say we put them on a year's probation and any violation that we'll just lose.

You'll have to find a different career, I guess.

I don't know, but this this is on it's just not not good.

So you've made a motion for a one-year renewal?

Yes.

I'll second that.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck, sir.

Yeah, good luck, man.

And here's my card.

And I'll send that to you uh today.

Thank you for the time.

I just did okay.

All right, we have another renewal violation is DL 4932456, VP 51, Inc.

Operating as VP 51 at 5190 North Franklin Road.

I feel like this one's been called a lot.

Yes, this would have been we would have voted on them today.

Sir, good morning, I have a seat.

VP 51.

All right, could you start with your name and the relationship to the business?

Who are you?

Who owns the place?

Uh Brajinder Singh.

Where's he?

Uh he's on the out of town right now.

He'd be back this Friday.

Huh.

Do you know why you're here?

Uh I guess they sold some beer to miners.

I'm the new manager there.

I usually don't go there, but um they'll fire the guy, uh, cashier and the manager.

So to me it seems like there's sending somebody in who can't answer any of the questions.

Right.

There's serious questions.

It's just like we're gonna postpone this.

The owner, hit the owner.

Get the owner in here next time.

I mean, he's gotta be account.

He's gotta be held accountable.

You're you're you're your fall guy here.

You're not okay.

And make sure he understands that we will vote on this renewal next month, whether he's here or not.

He's had multiple notices sent to him that he needed to appear.

Okay.

Um, this is the fourth month that he's been requested to appear.

So make sure he's clear and he understands.

We will hear this next month whether he's here or not.

And if he's not here, he's probably not gonna like the outcome.

Okay, sounds good.

I will let him know.

All right, thank you.

All righty.

What a board.

What a board.

Thanks, Jim.

Oh, it did Vanda, were they are they back yet?

Oh, I was gonna wait on him, wasn't I?

I don't know how long they're gonna be.

Yeah, I'll sit on it.

Sure call for as long as you want to wait.

Okay, so Beech Grove calling RR4914882, Royal Penn Entertainment Incorporated doing business as Expo Bowl at 5261 Elmwood.

This is a renewal with no violations, therefore I make a motion to approve.

Ah, a second.

We can't really vote there's no quorum, but I'll send it to the commission for approval.

Calling RR 4941546, slap top pizza LL uh LLC doing business as hey now, Pizza 607 Main Street.

I second I'll send it to the commission for thank you.

All right, Peter, it's all yours.

Okay.

Calling RR494-2574 rugby indie LLC.

Doing businesses Riverside Sports Properties LLC 1502 West 16th Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Thanks, Brian.

You asked for like a letter as well.

Is that mic on top?

Clark Kirkman with Clark Quinn Law on behalf of Rugby Indy LLC.

With me is Bill Earrett and Bryce Campbell, who are two of the four owners of record for rugby indie.

So this is at Coont Stadium, which is across the street from old Bush Stadium.

It's on 16th Street.

Last year it was last year, I believe, or maybe 23, where they they entered into a uh contract with City Parks Department to rehab the facility.

And their plan is to, and they have been for this season hosting professional rugby as well as professional ultimate frisbee.

Beyond that, there's a number of other events, high school level events, um practices, amateur events.

So this is a civic center permit to um you know serve alcoholic beverages at certain events.

So just for the record, you know, high school events.

We will not be operating the permit.

It's really just more for the professional rugby and the professional ultimate frisbee, um, things of that nature.

Probably uh alt uh operating it like 20 days a year.

How does the transaction take place?

I mean, is there a where do they go get their outcome?

So there is a building in one corner of the facility that has a concession window, like you're at Lucas Oil Stadium.

Sure.

Okay.

That's the only place then.

Well, I I think they might have some people walking around in the crowd, is that correct?

Not yet.

We haven't we haven't done that yet.

Like a baseball game.

And we we might do a pop-up tent in close proximity to the stands for those, yeah.

Which is marked on the um floor plan.

Yeah, those are things we'll discuss when we do the inspection.

Okay, so what about checking IDs?

What's the policy on checking IDs?

Every person that walks up and orders alcohol gets checked.

What happens if a minor gets served?

Well, to date, we've had a catering contractor serve the alcohol, so they've been the ones that have handled that through their policy quest food management services, which caters University of Indianapolis and Caters One America.

So that's who's been handling it today.

Um if a minor walks up, they will not be served.

Yeah, and and they would be um we they have they have an employee handbag and it would be um automatic termination if that were to occur.

But for me, I mean Butler has the license.

I mean, they're fairly common at sporting events anymore.

General concern with rugby would be the you know, lose the foot, losing the game, win the party kind of philosophy, but uh ask price.

Yeah, yeah, I've heard that one a lot.

No, but not our events will be professional events.

Um we're really excited to bring the community in to enjoy um what we've got in store at the stadium.

So they're actually hoping to attract um USA rugby, like their national headquarters to this area and the stadium.

Wonderful.

How many people does it hold?

The current fixed stands is 1,780.

Our uh to date, our highest attendance has probably been about a thousand for the collegiate rugby national championships, which we hosted in May.

What's the flow of the calendar with the rugby and then the high the high school stuff?

And so we I mean we have other sports, we have high school soccer that you're in high school play tonight at our stadium, but we don't have concessions or alcohol sales at uh any of those events.

Um the majority of them are probably between call it April, May through around like late July.

But you know, there's there's also a couple of events that we vote uh to lock down for September and August as well.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, I'll accept a motion.

Motion to approve, motion to approve.

I second all those in favor say aye.

Aye, all right, good luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR494 2622, all moms love LLC.

Doing business as all moms love, address 247 South Meridian.

What a next morning.

Good morning.

So for the record, Alex Intermo with Fozem Kenny and Evans, and I have with me Alice Lane, she's the 100% owner of All Mom's Love.

Um this is her first permit in the state of Indiana.

You know what?

I'm just thinking that as I watch those guys walk out the door.

All right.

Well, so I don't know if you want to get that out of the way first, and then we can move on.

Yeah, we will.

Ma'am, we're gonna ask you a set list of questions.

We ask all first-time petitioners except for those guys, but we'll get them soon.

Uh just answer loud enough that we can hear it on the microphone.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

It was prepared with the hell, but Lisa and Alex.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

Not at this time.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Yes.

Yes.

Okay, thank you very much.

All right, Alex.

All right.

So again, this is a beer and wine um restaurant permit, and Ms.

Lane's got a new business that she's opening.

She focus on food.

Um, and she can tell you all about that.

But we've talked with her extensively about alcohol service, the need to check IDs.

Um, she's going to card everyone.

It's going to be her policy.

We're also working with Ms.

Lane on developing written policies.

Um, not only for the service of alcohol but other policies, but focused on alcohol service to make sure that her employees know what to do, um, how to do it, and the consequences if they do have a violation served to a minor, which could include termination depending on the circumstances.

Wonderful.

Um, ma'am, what is the capacity of your restaurant?

210.

210?

And what are your hours of operation?

6 a.m.

to 1 p.m.

I'm sorry, till 1 a.m.

till 1 a.m.

Okay.

And is that seven days a week?

Yes.

How many employees will you have?

Twenty-one.

Twenty-one?

And where will the alcohol transaction take place?

Is it at the table or does someone go to a checkout counter?

Um we have a bar and it served at tables.

Served at tables, okay.

Um you understand the rules and responsibilities that come with having this license?

Yes.

Okay.

Is this place open?

Yes.

It's already open.

It's open.

What type of food?

Family style food.

Um diverse.

Oh sorry.

Take a breath.

Diverse menu.

Okay.

Now you you don't live in Indiana, correct?

I don't.

You live in Texas.

So how often are you planning to be here?

I'm trying to get here as often as possible.

Um at least twice a month if possible.

So who you have running the business when you're not here?

I have a general man.

And what's that person's name?

Daryl Smith.

Daryl Smith.

I'm sorry.

Louis.

I'm sorry.

Lloyd.

Lowing?

Yeah.

Okay.

Um what's your connection to 49 for 19 Southwest Street in Indianapolis?

Um, I attempted to start a restaurant there, but it didn't pan through.

Okay.

Why didn't it the location or yeah?

It was a circumstance where I was taking on something from someone else.

I had saw an opportunity to do so, and it wasn't done correctly.

So we parted ways.

Do you have any connection then to Anthony Alderson?

Ryan Grab.

Uh William Mac Brown?

No.

Amber Kavanaugh?

No.

Were you in your testifying under oath, correct?

Yes.

Okay.

You live in Texas?

Yes.

How'd you choose Indianapolis to purchase this business?

Um I know someone here.

Who do you know here?

Sally Acres.

Is this one of Grab's old buildings?

Yes.

That's can he has connection to both of those addresses, which may give me concern.

Is there any connection to Ryan Grab in your business?

No.

No.

Not at all.

Okay.

No.

Well, your questions.

Some concern, but if the answers are provided or they're under oath.

Do you have any objection with moving forward with the motion?

Not at this time.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, with that, I will accept a motion.

I don't think there's anything we have that steers us away from doing so.

Uh there's a motion to approve.

And under your answers that you provide this board, then I will second that.

Uh yeah.

I guess I'll say that.

I'll second it.

So there's a motion and a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

And uh we wish you the best of luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR494261, United Skates of America Inc.

doing business as skate land.

Address 3902 Glen Armored.

Uh this one's going to be continued.

Calling RR494-2738, La Posada Mexican Restaurant LLC doing business as La Posada Mexican restaurant, address 1121 North Arlington Avenue, suite 1115.

Morning, Greg Gunrick with Bradford and Riley with me is um Alvia Cisneros, who's the owner of La Pasada.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

All right.

Just to answer loud enough for us to sort them in first if you get any.

Okay.

Oh, it needs to be sworn in?

Yeah.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you have given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Someone else.

Yeah.

Yes.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes, sir.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes, sir.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No, sir.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Uh yes, and my partner.

She's my wife.

Well, did you list the other members in your application?

Yes.

Okay.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes, sir.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes, sir.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

No, it's a bar.

There is a bar in there.

Yeah, a little bar.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So, sir, you have a restaurant?

Yes, sir.

What's the capacity of your restaurant?

86 people.

86 people.

How many employees do you have?

Seven.

And what are the hours of operation?

Uh we open for Monday to Thursday.

Uh from 10 to 11.

Uh, Friday and Saturday?

10 to 12.

10 to 12.

Yeah, and Sunday uh 10th 11 again.

Okay.

So what is your policy for checking IDs?

Uh well, if they come and not before beer, that's the first thing I'm gonna ask.

So you're gonna ask uh everybody is carded.

Is that the policy that everybody gets guarded?

Oh course.

Okay.

What happens if one of your employees serves a minor?

Oh no, it's not gonna happen because I'm always there.

You're always there?

That's my next question.

How often are you there?

You're there all the time?

Uh most of the time, yeah.

If not, my wife is at this uh location under the old owners has had a lot of problems.

Yes, lots of violence in the parking lot.

So just because of that area, what what are your plans to make sure things don't happen under your watch?

Security or anything?

Yeah, and I have security too.

What kind of security?

Uh private security.

You already have that lined up.

Uh a friend of mine recommended me one, yeah, so I'm thinking about it since I get the license.

Uh talk to hand about hours to stop.

Are you already open?

Uh yes.

Have you had any for any police runs?

How long have you been open?

Not at all.

No police.

Okay.

How long have you been open?

Uh but um these we're gonna be on our four weeks.

We was waiting for the hard department to come and inspect it.

Okay, so you've been open about a month serving food?

Do you have any plans on using the event space next door?

He offered me that, but it's to me it's a lot of money right now.

Can't afford it to pay the rent.

If they change that, they have to come back in.

No, they would just do an expansion of the floor plan.

This is that meetings live event center.

Oh, yeah.

And then shooting in the parking lot.

Sure.

Yeah.

But completely different.

Yeah, completely different.

I mean, uh it's all the same, right?

It comes down to ownership, whether you're gonna allow those types of things to take place or not.

The other people did.

We had terrible, terrible ownership.

Um do you own the building?

Or are you renting?

I'm renting.

So this is just a restaurant.

Just a restaurant, let's go restaurant.

It's all it's gonna be is just a restaurant.

Just a restaurant.

Any plans to go to a nightclub at like 10 o'clock at night?

No.

No, are you sure?

Well, we have a karaoke, you know, maybe sometimes that they say it.

What time's karaoke start?

Seven.

Do you go to all 21 and over when you do that, or is that still a family?

It's a family.

Because that was the problem with the location last time.

Is we were told that was going to be a brunch place if you're a different one.

Oh, that's a different one.

This was where William King moved in and took over.

Ah, jeez.

Yeah.

Well, we're sensitive to that.

I mean, we've seen these things.

Get a restaurant license, turn it into a nightclub.

So have you made contact with the district commander to introduce yourself over there, thy and PD?

Uh yeah.

Would you uh would you make that commitment to the board that you're gonna reach out and get contact information?

Yes, yes, sir.

And you and we're and you're stating today it's going to be a restaurant, food focused.

You're closing it uh you said 11 o'clock at night?

Yes, sir.

On the weekend, what was the weekend?

Uh the weekends is uh only um Friday and Saturday still 12.

Till 12.

Yeah.

All right.

With that, I'll make a motion to approve.

Second.

Motion and a second to approve.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion carries good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Oh, yeah.

Is uh what is that called Bondo?

Bando restaurant, are you back?

Well, I guess I'll for a while.

My bad.

Yeah, you're good.

I mean, they're trying to get a zoning here.

I mean, it could be.

Yeah.

Do you have any objections if they come back if we hear them?

No.

Okay.

Okay.

Thanks, Jim.

No, do you like the beach grove?

We'd just send it on.

Call calling RR494 2741, Tropical Taste LLC, doing business as tropical taste.

Address 1545 North Post Road.

I thought I didn't morning.

Yeah.

Esther, I know I need to swear you in.

I need to swear you in because you relate.

I need to swear you in.

Yes.

Okay.

Were you sworn in?

Were you sworn in?

You worked and you can send it to me.

They're wrong Kinley.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on the application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Okay.

Thank you.

Think.

All right, Esther.

Okay, my name is Esther Barbara, and this is Miss Rachel.

She's the home owner of the restaurant.

Um she recently took the class.

So she fully understand that it responsibly couldn't fly.

Sending alcohol in the data.

Is this her first license?

Yes.

Yes, ma'am.

I'm gonna ask you the same questions.

Just answer loud enough that we can hear you.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Someone else.

Esther.

Yes, sir.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to this application?

No.

Yeah, are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

Is there at least, yeah, they walked in right here.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes.

And are you applying for limited separation?

No, no, it's a smaller.

Yeah.

Alright, so tell us what it is.

It's uh a restaurant, so we focus more on food.

It's tropical restaurant.

Okay.

And uh we and Lisa Lake.

Um can I say uh island food, like cocktail, you know, and uh yeah, so is this beer and wine?

Yeah, beer and wine.

Beer and wine only.

Okay, so what is the policy for checking IDs?

How will you check IDs?

Oh, make sure the uh and at the bottom of the license, the date of birth, and uh the picture, and uh make sure there's no plastic, make sure it's will.

Good and make sure it's 21.

Yes.

Okay.

And what happens if one of your employees serves someone who's under 21 years of age?

Uh I don't think I'm the only employees gonna serve?

Yeah, okay.

Well that helps.

Make sure, yeah.

Is this beer and wine?

Yes, yes.

Okay.

And uh what what island?

Food.

Which island?

What kind of food?

Oh, okay.

It's tropical, like can I say Jolie Kane, Haiti Shane, okay, in a mix of uh Mexican.

Yeah, it's just diverse.

Wonderful.

And are you already open and operating?

Are you already open serving food?

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

Well, with that, I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling R R.

Do you want to knock out the bando?

Sure.

All right, so let me see here.

Going back to calling RR 494 2690.

Um Enterprises LLC doing business as Bando Korean restaurant at 8015 Pelton Pike.

Right there.

You have your application?

All right.

Were you able to get that?

No.

Oh, that maybe two weeks to be done.

So we have a little schedule.

Our next meeting will be back on a Monday.

So it'll be Monday.

This is just make sure that you uh update the orange sign.

Change the date, leave it posted.

If you don't have to re-send your neighbors or any you don't need to redo any of this other than leave the orange sign and change the date.

Okay.

That first one.

Yeah, yeah.

You don't need to redo that one.

No, you're good.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Okay.

All right, you can move on to that.

All right.

Calling R R 494 2742.

Uh MIA 21 L L C doing business assure you.

Uh revolving sushi.

Revolving sushi, I'm sorry.

5025 East 82nd Street Sweet Moon.

800.

You do that or harder words.

You did on that one.

Greg Gunner with Brian Riley with me is um Ming Fu Chen, who's the owner of uh MI21.

Mr.

Chen, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes.

All right.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Yes.

Well, he did.

Yeah.

All right.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

No.

Did you list the other members?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Yes.

Okay.

So what do we have?

You got a sushi restaurant?

Yeah.

We're having a new tonight, which I got the sushi would be on the source kind of revolves around the restaurant.

Yeah.

So you pick up your plate and then you charge by the plate.

Huh.

All right.

Um, how will you check IDs?

Um, first of all, first of all, we always like uh training the all that's the op there.

We always need to check an ID.

And uh I think that's coming to that.

You cannot surveys tonight, uh call to any why it's under the 21.

Yes, oh it's so if anyone do that, I would fire it there at immediate.

I like it.

All right.

Um sorry, did you say there was limit no limited separation?

It's just table service.

Yes, there's just there's a is there a small bar.

Is there a bar?

Yeah, it's small bar.

Okay, so you will have limited separation.

Okay.

Um but typically the service alcohol will be taken to the tables.

Yes, yes.

Okay.

Are you already open?

No.

When do you plan to open?

Um we're still we didn't put that space.

Okay, so once you have the you're ready to open, you're just waiting on the inspection.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

With that, I'll accept a motion.

Most to approve.

Motion to approve.

I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

All right.

Motion carries.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you so much.

Calling R R 494-2749, Levi's Kitchen LLC doing business as Levi's Kitchen, address seven seventeen eighteen Southeast Street.

Uh if you have your application, you can hand that to the officer and then take a seat.

Okay.

Okay.

I think she's got a question or two about your application.

Okay.

There's some additional documents that are required for Mary County.

Um did you receive a packet that looked like this?

Um transfer except no.

Okay, because we are playing for everyone.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

We don't see that.

Okay, so I'll give this to you.

Um for what seems that we'll try to have a follow-up for that.

The first one is the applicator proposed and assigned to post it aside and you have that.

Okay.

Um but the rest of the sending notification answers.

Um this step two, step two is how exactly that we can do, and there's any cases where you would get those from.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then you should make uh something else.

I think you're actually never conference.

Uh well, yeah.

And then the last one is different.

That person you're almost like shining.

Okay.

I hope that all comes through.

What a fun one.

All right.

Calling RR942753 A5 Yen Kinku Indy LLC doing business as Yakin Ku Indy.

Address 6001 East 86 Street.

Yeah, we got this.

Bradford Riley with me is Jing Wang, who is the uh owner.

Which one's that?

You?

Okay.

And you are um wait, I'm here to translate.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

All right.

Is this the first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes.

All right, fine.

So I'll ask you, you asked.

Yeah.

Did you prepare the application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Well, can you say it loud enough to we can hear it?

Oh, okay.

I can say it about yeah, someone.

So I can ask the him here.

Yeah, so it was Greg.

Yeah, we're gonna fill it out.

Yeah.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

You're not even having to translate it.

Yeah, because he on the standard.

What do you do?

Look at me, you know.

Yeah.

You do understand the questions that are being asked.

Okay.

Okay.

Uh is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Some more guys on the back of my tone.

Yes.

Uh, do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permanent premise at any time without a warrant.

Yes.

Are you applying for carry out privileges?

Yes.

Yes.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Yes.

No.

No.

It's all table celebration.

And it's small and small bar, and then rush on.

So then the answer is yes.

Yes.

Okay.

Um, well, fellas, tell us you have a restaurant.

This is what we're doing.

Yes.

This is the old on the border restaurant there from Castle on the north side of Castleton.

Okay.

So you have in Castleton.

Yeah, near Buddha.

All right.

Um is it beer and wine?

Yes.

All right.

Uh tell us about checking IDs.

How will you check IDs?

Different 21.

Yeah.

How do you know if they're 21?

Yeah, basically here we are checking everybody's ID.

You know, what is that doing?

Basically or completely.

Yes.

Are you are checking all IDs?

Yeah, we will check an O ID here, especially here looking at 140.

You know, so what happens if one of your employees serves a minor?

I mean, basically, we're not having here because all the people didn't come to restaurant here, we'll check an ID for everybody here.

Like what we say here on the 40.

If we're going daddy here, we will be like, you know, retraining it depending here on fire of them.

So you're a determination.

Depending on the circumstances or termination.

Okay.

And then what are your hours of operation?

Operation right now here is 11 to I mean, we date here at 11 to 10 to you.

The weekend here is 11 to 11.

11 a.m.

until 11 p.m.

And what was the capacity?

How many people fit in your restaurant?

How many fit can fit?

Rhino here.

We have a 31 table here, so probably around that 100, 140 people.

Any questions from the board?

There are none.

I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling R R 494 2787.

Taco's Jalisquilo.

Quillo LLC doing business says.

Tacos.

Jalisqual.

1707 East Minnesota Street.

My Clarion was thinking the uh the tax clearance.

Okay.

Okay, they didn't have a sign posted either.

So they their sign was not posted either, so make sure they get their sign posted.

It wasn't posted.

I'll show it continued to October.

Well, next month.

Next month.

Calling RH4930383, the Columbia Club Inc.

doing business as the Columbia Club.

Address 121 Monument Circle.

Has to be paperwork they've had a license for a million years.

Yeah, it's gotta be a reshuffle.

Thank you.

Good morning again.

Uh Alex Intermill, it was McKinney and Evans.

And Molly Richardson, she's the assistant general manager of Columbia Club.

I heard President Graves mentioned this might be a reshuffle, and he is correct.

I suspect you're all familiar with the Columbia Club right on the circle.

It has been there for a long, long time.

And importantly, for this board with no alcohol violations.

That is in large part due to the policies and training that Molly and her team have in place to make sure that not only are our employees and bartenders trained to check IDs if someone looks under 40, um, to recognize the signs of intoxification, so you know all the things they're supposed to do.

And then if there is an incident, um serious consequences, and Molly can tell you about that.

But they've had a great compliance record and in because of that.

This permit, we're here today to switch to a hotel permit, which won't change any of those policies or operations.

It will simply give the club more flexibility for some of the events that they have.

Namely, wine club was one of the first things that we talked about when they were looking at options because under their current permit, they can't have carry out.

Even members, if they bought wine at the wine club and wanted to take, they can't do that.

Um so we worked with the ATC and talked about the different types of permits, arrived at the hotel permit, and that brings us here today.

So if the board votes favorably, um we would take the current permit upon approval by the commission, put that into escrow.

Um it actually is one of these ones that you can convert into a restaurant permit back into a 210, and they'll do something with that, probably sell it.

Um, but then just keep operating as they always have.

Um so with that, uh, do you know how long they've had a license?

I don't know the exact year, a long time though.

It's one of the ones that says like 1925.

Yeah, you know, it goes back a long time.

Yeah, but this is uh paperwork reshuffling in my opinion.

You have no violations, you've had your license a million years, and there's nothing changing.

That's correct.

Does XI see it the same way?

Yeah, there's no changes to the floor plan.

Yeah, none.

It'll still be private.

That was one of the issues that we worked through with the ATC because it's kind of unusual to have the hotel component but be private, but they've had that hotel component and have been private for a long, long time.

So everything will continue to operate the same way.

Well, no further questions.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Second, second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye, aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR4942524 West Fork Broad Ripple LLC doing business as West Fork Broad Ripple.

Address 651 East 54 Street.

I believe this one's going to be withdrawn.

Okay.

Calling RR494-2566 SBP properties LLC doing business as Grindstone Charlie's address 5383 Rockville Road.

Greg, the sign was gone on this one.

Sign was gone.

There's no sign.

I know there's tape where they were, but there was no sign because they took a picture of it.

Okay, but we'll admit there's not a big hurry.

Okay.

Okay.

Calling RR4942637, Circle City Hospitality Group Inc.

Address Location Bending.

Can't tell if they're going to need the attorney.

Yeah.

They're just done.

Oh, I don't know.

That application doesn't look thick enough.

Yes, he's because it's location pending.

Oh, okay.

Trust me.

I asked them the same questions.

Sir, what's your name and what's your res your your uh connectivity to the company?

Um one of the owners.

You're one of the owners?

Yeah, but uh we got a location appended.

We haven't uh figured out our real location yet.

Okay, so you know you'll have to.

So I was just going to ask for right now.

So you know you'll have to come back in front of the board once you do find a location.

Okay.

And what is your name, sir?

Frey at Leechmo.

And what are the names of the other owners?

Corey Howard.

Okay.

And is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Okay.

Did you prepare the application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

The lawyer prepared it, but I looked at it.

Who was that?

Uh oh crap, I got two of them.

Mark Lad.

Mark.

Did uh did you have a chance to review the application after all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes, sir.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No, sir.

Are you the only owner of the business?

No, sir.

Did you list the other members on the application?

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Uh I'm gonna make sure of it.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Uh no privileges right now.

Oh yeah, that's true.

Yeah.

And then I guess limited separation.

So what is this?

What do you do?

It's gonna be a restaurant lounge, yes, sir.

Okay.

Lounge.

Tell us about the lounge part.

Uh we do karaoke and poetry, comedy.

Live entertainment.

Live entertainment.

You're gonna need to use a promoter?

No, sir.

Why?

Because I don't need one.

You don't need one?

No, sir.

All right.

Um I guess I mean ultimately we're just picking it.

Yeah, so for this one, he will have to come back when there's a location identified.

So he'll come back before the board.

He meets all the requirements.

Yeah, okay.

Well, with that, you have a motion.

Uh motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

I'll second that.

We'll see you when you get your location.

Okay.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Calling RR4942639, Gill Tacos LLC, door of businesses guild.

Tackles address 1665 South Lynnhurst Drive.

Hi.

Hi.

Good morning.

I'm my name is Esther Barber, and this is Miss Berta.

Umberto is out of the country, and he was not able to come immediately.

Uh it she is his wife, and also she uh has the uh MQ in place or manage the license.

Okay.

So is this the first license in the state of Indiana?

If I she understood a little bit of English, and I'm gonna try to help her.

Yeah.

I got uh I got the license for alcohol, maybe I'm not remember, maybe six years ago.

Six years ago.

But uh we opened the other restaurant, so and uh my counter Contalora something?

Yeah, the uh CPA.

Does they do the doesn't he separate the business?

So the different license the what they've got two entities don't they need to separate and have a different entity and this is what they do in right now.

Change the entity only same owner.

Oh just basically now we got the uh the license by the six fighter and doesn't need um change everything for the new company.

For the new company.

So you've been open and operating already, right?

You've been open for a while.

Oh my license.

Oh, for the license.

I maybe see Joseph's acting.

Okay, nothing's changing.

No, I'll come down there.

No, no, no.

But that I'll make a motion to approve.

Second.

And a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck, ma'am.

Thank you, thank you.

Calling it.

By the way, she took the class also, so I'll make sure.

Thank you.

Calling DL493 424 Bradbury Pro Petroleum Ink doing business with Brad Bur Bradbury Petroleum.

Address 5405 West Bradbury Avenue.

Riley with me is Robin Sang, the new owner of Bradbury Petroleum.

This is the old it's across more than the plane crash was years ago.

It's at station there.

Okay, I know where you're at.

Yeah.

Sir, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes.

All right, same thing.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Um Greg didn't.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it's prepared?

Yeah.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

Uh is there at least 200 feet between your premise and church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand an exercise officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

This is probably a gas station.

Yes, yes, yes.

Limited separation though.

Okay.

What's your policy on checking IDs?

Whenever we scan a product, it shows on the register to type in an ID.

Either scan it or type in their data for it before proceeding.

Okay.

So you have a scanner for all purchased items, and if it's an alcoholic beverage item, then it requires you to punch in their date of birth.

Do you check that to make sure the same date of birth isn't being entered 20 times in one day?

Yeah, but our uh policy, we're supposed to check IDs every time for cigarettes and tobacco uh alcoholic products.

Okay.

And what happens if your employee does not follow the policy and does serve a miner?

Or someone, uh even cigarettes.

Uh immediate termination.

Okay, is it part of a written policy?

Yeah.

Okay.

How many employees do you plan to have?

Five.

Is your station open 24 hours?

Yeah.

And you understand that you can't serve sell alcohol 24 hours a day, right?

Do you know what are the hours that you're allowed to sell?

8 a.m.

to 2 a.m.

And then um Sunday 12 to 8.

Close enough.

No, we guess his hours.

Okay.

Two away.

Um do you have other gas stations?

Yeah.

Okay.

How many stations do you own?

Four.

Four?

Yeah.

Is this the only one with an alcohol permit?

Yeah.

Have you had any violations for sales to tobacco of tobacco to to minors at your other locations?

Okay.

With that, I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

All second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR494-2728 for ACEs hospitality.

LLC doing business with blend bar and cigar address 3981 East.

82nd.

This is a kind of restructure.

Got a power return if I could just to put that one.

Yeah, they've been around for a few years.

Yeah, as long as there's no violations.

But they've been there for a while.

Yeah.

How long have they been there?

This current location they've been there.

I'll say 10 years.

Long time.

And the violation was loitering?

Yeah.

Someone came in to buy tobacco.

Oh, yeah.

And they're wrong.

And excise was there.

Well.

So they do have one violation, but ultimately this is just a restructure of the corporate.

Right.

All right.

Um questions from the board?

All right.

I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Great.

Thank you.

Calling RH4930381 in the hospitality group LLC.

Doing business as courtyard by Marriott.

Address 2602 Fortune Circle East.

I'll bet it's the same thing.

Did you send a letter to your neighbors?

Yes.

You did?

Do you have a copy of that letter and the addresses it was sent to?

Uh I have the copy of the house on my phone.

Can I say last?

Yes.

Yeah, we can do that.

Sorry.

Yeah.

But uh we have a where was I prefer to start?

But uh we can hit balls.

I'm playing tomorrow.

Oh, you wouldn't.

Have you been there before?

No.

It's pretty.

I've heard people.

Just make sure they weren't waiting on us.

So you print the golf.

Scramble golf.

Not my own ball.

I haven't played my own ball this year.

Frenchworth, that's right.

It was 94.

Did Alex play?

My buddy.

I don't know that's oh yeah, the guy, yeah.

I didn't know that dude.

I'll tell you what, he came up to me.

I'm like, I don't know.

Midnight or something?

What o'clock?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, he probably was too.

You did send it though.

Yes.

Okay.

Uh, if I give you my business card, can you email that to me today?

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

Here, I'll give you this.

Just email the list to me, please.

Okay.

Okay.

So let's start with who you are and your relationship to the business.

I'm the owner of the property and she's my general manager.

Okay.

And is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone prepare it for you?

Along with the help of my GM.

And did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes, ma'am.

And were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

I have a partner.

And did you list him him or her?

Yes.

Uh is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

No.

So you're not applying for limited.

I mean, uh carry-out privileges?

Is that what is considered when they can take it to the room?

No.

No.

Never mind.

You were right, I was wrong.

Okay.

Um what are we doing?

Yes, sir.

Like we um, it's a courtyard and we sell all the call to the guests who come there.

And then yeah.

How does the transaction take place?

Uh it takes place um at the register.

At the register?

So you keep all of the alcohol contained behind a a cabinet wall or some yes, there's a bar to separate the dining area and the serving area.

Okay.

And then what is your policy on checking IDs?

We check everybody's ID.

What happens if someone does serve a minor?

Uh we would not serve a minor because we would check their ID first, but if they were, they would be immediately terminated.

Part of a written policy?

Any questions from the board?

Hearing none, I'll accept the motion.

I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thanks.

Calling R R four nine four two seven four three.

Rise restaurant.

LLC doing business as the pub.

Address 1301, South High School Road.

I think it'll put up.

I think it was something here about a consumer.

Yeah.

Good morning.

Right.

Rise restaurant.

Yes.

Just Rice Restaurant.

Rise.

No, this is Russia and Shine.

Breakfast House.

Breakfast house.

All right, sir.

Uh recognize you, but what's your name?

Jose Munis.

And how many licenses do you have now, Jose?

Um got about how many violations?

Um what were they for?

Um, that was for uh one of the busers pick it up uh empty bottles.

Uh yeah.

Well that was like two years ago from one uh sluggish one.

Okay, and then the other one was what uh um the uh figure assigned uh non-smoking on the front of the door.

Sure.

And so you're gonna have a breakfast uh restaurant.

No, uh the reference restaurant is already there with a beer wine with the green wine, and then uh now do we uh I find a three-way we've gone from a two-way to a three-way okay.

Um nothing's changing, nothing changing.

We do an umbrella um to the tables only.

We don't have a borrow in it.

All right, with that I'll accept the motion.

Most to approve motion to approve.

I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck, Jose.

Okay, good.

All right, we're gonna take a quick uh five-minute comfort break.

We'll be right back before we start violations.

Oh call it.

Oh, I'm good.

Uh calling RR 4902796, the Ocean Air Restaurant Company Inc.

Doing business as the Ocean Air Seafood Room, address 30 South Marina Street.

I guess that you can okay.

Hello, good morning.

Were you here at the beginning of the meeting where you sworn in?

Yes.

So for the record, Alexander Mill, Bozeman Kenny and I have Ryan Height, he's the manager of the Oceanair, just right downtown, likely all familiar with it.

Um this is a bit of an unusual one.

Officer Sunier and I were talking um just a bit ago.

Unusual because as you typically see in the settlement, and this has been settled with the ATC prosecutor, Drew Wignall.

There's language in there that says this is a settlement in exchange for an admission of the violations below.

And the violations in this instance were sale to an intoxicated person, employee acting without a permit and employee records, fifteen hundred dollar penalty, the penalty was paid, uh prosecutor Wignall struck the admission language.

The reason for that, and it was at our request and working with Ocean Air, is this violation relates to a tragic incident with someone dying.

Um the customer, um, is Griffin, who was involved in that accident.

She had a criminal jury trial scheduled for September 8th, actually, just coming up.

I just checked the docket that has been continued again.

Um, so we're not sure when that will happen.

My firm and and Ryan's not involved in the criminal side of things, that is uh different set of folks, but it's important because we have not been able to obtain the IMPD investigatory records.

Uh we have requested them, but because of the ongoing criminal um trial, they were requiring a subpoena.

And since we do not have a lawsuit on the civil side of things, we've been notified by the deceased's civil attorney to preserve records, and we've done all that, but we don't have a live lawsuit yet.

So I don't have a way to get those records to review.

Okay.

So all of that to say we did not want to and weren't in a position to admit to the sale to an intoxicated person.

If you've read through the report, you I've reviewed the video.

I've reviewed the information that I have available to me.

I've interviewed um Ian Surgison, who was the manager, he's no longer with Oceanair, but I did talk with him back in November as well as well as Matteo Rincone, the another employee that was involved, bartender, um, and uh Natalie.

Her last name escapes me.

Collins.

So we've done our due diligence.

We have a different view of the world from what the excise report says.

Um, but we don't have all of the facts as well.

So we were just weren't in a position to admit, but we did want to settle because it's an we want to renew the permit and move forward.

Um so with that said, it is still of the utmost importance to Oceanair and their parent company Landry that has a lot of restaurants all over the country that these things don't happen.

Um they've all employees have been retrained.

The managers talk with employees regularly about looking for signs of intoxication.

This happened in Colts season, you know, after a Colts game.

That's upon us again.

So understanding when a big events are going on and there's lots of crowds, and maybe somebody's coming from a Colts game or coming from a fever game, they might have had something to look out for that.

We think the employees did that in this instance as well, and that there's evidence to support that, but this highlights it for Ryan and all of his staff, and he can tell you about their training and the safeguards that they have to make sure that this question doesn't come before you again.

Um the employee records was uh it was also a little bit interesting, it was had dealt with a DUI or an OWI that the employee had had and was holding up his permit, which was something that my understanding is we couldn't Oceanair couldn't see from their side it was going on in the background, but when notified that that piece was less than because it wasn't settled either, I said.

It was in the limbo line, but somebody put him or her on the floor, correct?

Yeah, so with that, we do take this extremely seriously from the time of the incident to present and before the incident.

When we think the training was there to prevent these types of things, again, like I said, we disagree with the facts, but we don't want to um belittle by any stretch that look XIS thought there was a violation, we're addressing that, we've paid that.

And again, Ryan, you can explain to the board briefly about the training and the talks that you have with your your team and your staff.

Sure.

Uh so uh every year we do a corporate mandated training program for alcohol service, uh goes through showing signs of intoxication, um, steps to you know to take once those are identified uh and being able to, you know, just address responsible alcohol service in general.

Um we continually impress upon um the the servers and the the bartenders uh the need for just observation and and keen awareness, uh especially going through into uh a cult season, um, you know, company policy, anybody over 40 or anybody that looks under the age of 40 uh is immediately carded.

Um, you know, and then um you know we've taken steps to improve the communication from recognizing issues as you know, uh, because everybody has to walk through that front door so being able to identify those opportunities and say, hey, this is you know, this is a yellow light, we need to keep an eye on what's going on here, um, identifying that, communicating that to the individual that is taking care of this guest, you know, be vigilant, be mindful, um, and then you know, take necessary steps.

Uh, all employees are empowered uh with manager support to uh provide that if they have any sort of feeling that this person is no longer needed to be served, is to intoxicate, uh they have our media support in making those decisions.

How long have you been with Oceanair?

I've been with the company for five years.

Five years.

When did this happen?

This took place in I'm not sure.

Last um were you specific date?

September 2020.

I I took over this location in November last year.

That's probably why you're here, I believe.

Right.

So the people involved, one of them is no longer employed there.

Two both are no longer employed there.

Okay.

But not because of this situation.

Oh.

Um, Ian Sergison, he actually called me earlier in the summer, June or so, and let me know.

He put in his his two weeks and whatnot and just moved.

He's still at he's at another restaurant here in town.

Um, Mateo, the bartender, I'm not sure the circumstances of why he left, but it wasn't at least it wasn't related.

It wasn't related to this.

Because if it's related to this, then there's an admission of some sort, which would then cloud the legal on the other one.

Perhaps.

I mean, and just Ocean Air Policy and Ryan could could talk about that.

We looked at the circumstances of the violation, and the the company decided that they're they didn't deem the situation to warrant termination, but certainly the retraining and pulling all of the staff, not only the managers and the folks involved, but everybody together to say, hey, um, this is what happened, use it as a teacher.

So uh because it's not settled, usually a case is settled before the local board.

It is settled for as far as the commission is concerned.

Okay, it's settled for the renewal today.

Um basically they went ahead and they paid the settlement, they paid the violation for the charges of sales to intoxicate a person in play permit.

Um and then records of employee permit.

That is however, there's a cover letter that's it's a non-admission and a disclaimer saying that they'll pay it to move forward with the non-mitting to it.

But then the prosecutor accepts that.

Right.

And also to clarify on the actual on the prosecutor's letter, typically it reads to resolve the violations in lieu of a hearing and in exchange for an admission to the underlying facts related to the violations.

That clause, the and in exchange for an admission to the underlying facts, prosecutor Wignall removed that language from his settlement letter.

So just for the board discussion, we've got the prosecutors agreeing to move on.

So then for me, it seems like we're trying to see.

Are they in a better position today to make sure something like that doesn't happen?

They're not gonna admit it happened.

So we have to know, don't mean it didn't happen.

That's right.

And you know, I understand there's some sensitivity because they're they're depending criminal and possible civil litigation.

However, our focus is uh is on the violation.

What happened?

Did they have they made the proper corrections?

Should they be allowed to continue with their alcohol then?

Um you were not employed there when the violation happened, correct?

Correct.

What do you know about the violation?

We haven't talked specifically about the violation yet.

Um other than the fact that I know that it you know took place and that it happened.

Um, you know, I've heard uh differing conversations from you know, people that were involved.

Um, you know, I read the uh excise report.

Um, you know the exercise report was the first official statement that I've seen coming.

You know, I've heard stories, but again, uh things change over time, things get embellished things, so exactly what the the 100% truth is.

I you know, all I have is that excise report to go off of.

And and that's all we have to go off of right now, too.

So I can tell I can tell you that you know I was involved pretty much from the after the incident happened, and and Officer Swallow and others came in, you know, one of the and started doing the investigation under the place of last drink, the the POLD as they call it.

Um we think there's there's some discrepancy there looking at the video footage.

Um the woman, Ms.

Griffin, who is the the customer in question.

We've got video of her leaving with a man that she was there in Oceanair with.

Um she gets in the passenger seat and they leave.

Sometime later, there's an accident, she was driving.

So we're not certain that Oceanair was the place of her last drink.

Um at some point in time, she moved from passenger side to the driver's side.

We don't know when that was, we don't know where that was, we don't know if that where that was involved more drinking, so that it wasn't Oceanair as the place of last drink.

But we do know that she came in after the the Colts game.

Um she was checked, she was observed.

I've looked at the video, I talked with the manager, Matteo, Natalie, the folks that were involved in the situation.

Their statements differ somewhat from the the um reporting and the excise report.

Unfortunately, there's not a recording of the excise interviews to run against their their statements.

Um but she came into the restaurant after the Colts game, had a glass of wine, met another gentleman there, two other guys come in.

These guys were also, I think, probably as Ryan said, would have been yellow lights.

Um and I think she had two glasses of wine, there was uh order of makers mark shots.

She, for whatever reason, spit her maker's mark shot um onto the ground, at which time that was enough, and everyone was was asked to leave.

Um by staff.

Yeah, so it wasn't their decision.

No, no, no.

It was staff wasn't telling was aware and watching.

There was also getting her food, getting all of these folks, water, um, keeping an eye on them following Oceanair's procedures.

Um, but as mentioned, I mean, for are we in a better position or as Oceanair in a better position today to you know address and to avoid these types of situations?

I would I would say yes.

I think they were in a great position beforehand, but this incident, us being here today, the specter of possible more litigation down the road has even increased the sensitivity and awareness you know, company what from server on up.

Sure, I have no doubt.

It has been a topic of conversation, especially going into this cold season again.

What transpired previously, and what is our duty and what are our responsibilities when it comes to everybody in this county that has this license, right?

So it in the report, the manager?

Yeah, Ian Sergeson.

Um said that because she came in tipsy, he stated he told the staff that he would need to approve alcoholic beverages that she ordered prior to service.

Is that a typically a policy?

No.

That's just something that he came up with.

I I don't know.

I talk I can I can test what I talked to Ian about that.

He disputes the tips or at least what he meant by tipsy, not tipsy is intoxicated.

I mean that's the standard, right?

Was she visibly intoxicated so that you you know shouldn't have served her?

He didn't mean that, so just that, but when you read she came in a little tipsy, but we don't like that, and we understand that that looks bad, but we've investigated that and we we don't think that means visibly intoxicated.

But she was like, I think probably the yellow light that Ryan mentioned that hey, we want to make sure that if she gets anything, you know, make sure you're coming.

He wanted a second set of eyes on it.

That's where one of the breakdowns happened, or could have happened because Matteo didn't let Ian Sergison, the manager, know a drink.

Um I think that Ryan, that's probably what you're talking about, is really increasing and making sure that that communication among the staff in these types of situations that that really that it happens because it may not have happened in this in this instance.

Well tough ones.

Um discussions we could add that'll help.

Well, I think number one, we need to take out take a couple of things out of our decision, right?

We need to take out the fact there's possible pending litation and focus on the events that happened, whether or not um they acted appropriately, and then we need to take out too the fact that it's uh a high-end restaurant the light rank.

Yeah, that part.

They all because everyone has the same response.

Yeah, I do believe they've got an officer sooner.

I think you've got their compliance record, I think their history is good.

Yes, I don't think I agree with that.

And and you know, so it's it's not what you know we often see.

I mean, it's it's a tragedy.

Um unfortunately, uh Ms.

Griffin was at Ocean Air before that tragedy.

We you know, whether Ocean Air was the cause of that, we dispute.

Um, but the sensitivity and taking it seriously and the obligation, that is crystal clear, and there's no question to that.

To the red room.

I don't know if Peter, if you were here or not.

The red room and broader call.

Didn't we have uh someone leave there and get in an accident?

Is that ring a bell to you?

Somebody's got to make a motion.

Um you had enough discussion for well then.

Does someone have a motion they want to make?

They landed on anything.

I'm just I'm just trying to make sure I understand all the facts of the report.

Um there hasn't been any testimony.

Typically, we have testimony from the manager, owner in the committee, somebody saying this is what happened.

We understand this, but I obviously they're they're they're not wanting to talk about the specifics.

Um so all we can call on is what the excise report says.

Um it states that she came in according to the report that she came in showing signs of intoxication, and she was served by employees.

There's again there aren't any interior uh cameras, all they have are the exterior cameras, which she looked like when she was outside.

But there is a um receipt from Mrs.

Griffin that showed where was it?

She is it near the top page six, I think.

That she uh it shows that she had ordered four 14 oysters, two nine-ounce glasses of black wine, two bottles of course light, three two-ounce shots of makers, and one two-ounce shot of makers 46, one two ounce shot of makers.

Um we don't know that's for the table.

That's for the table.

Table.

Correct.

We had four at the table.

Yes, um three.

So I think they were sitting at the bar.

Ms.

Griffin came by herself, was joined by another gentleman.

Um, so that I'm the the course lights come in that she was buying his beers.

They also ordered more oysters and the food.

Um then there were two other guys that were at the bar that then they started chatting up, and that's where the round of makers shots came from for those guys, and then Miss Griffin um spit hers on the floor and was asked to leave.

Okay, what's the role?

I'm the general manager.

Okay.

Well, I'll make a motion.

I'm comfortable with a one-year renewal with the understanding of any further violations.

Uh I I wouldn't, I wouldn't have an appetite for me.

Someone died here, right?

Um they're disputing who drove what, but we're looking at who was intoxicated when they got here.

And were they overserved?

I feel confident in their past history of not having violations.

This is a tragic one.

I'm confident that they've had their that they understand what's at stake.

I could be swayed, but that's that's where I'm at.

How does that land on you?

I'll just go ahead and make the motion and then we'll find out.

So I'll make a motion for a one-year renewal with the understanding that I would have no appetite for anything further.

Is there a second?

I think I was second a one yeah.

We could second that.

So is that hesitantly?

No, I'm I don't know.

So there's a motion and a second for a one-year removal.

Very hesitant.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Uh good luck.

Thank you.

And I hope we got it right.

That's a tough.

Um calling DL4920495, all the Indiana LP doing businesses all D75, address 5235 worth Keystone Avenue.

Uh Clark Hurtman of Clark Quinn, I'd like to request continuance.

They just received this notice of violation last week on a March of Incident Report.

Yes.

All right, should we continue?

Calling RR4924842, Thai papaya ink doing business as Thai papaya restaurant address 3905 West 96.

Uh suite 1000.

Papaya.

No.

I shall continue.

Okay.

Calling DL4926169, Kroger Limited Partnership number one.

Doing business as Kroger J number 998, address 1365 East 86 Street.

Could you identify yourself and your relationship to the business, please?

Yeah, my name is Jared Payton.

I am the store manager.

Alright, Jared.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes, I do.

Were you the store manager when this happened?

I was not, no.

They do that to us.

What's that?

They do that to us.

As soon as there's a violation, they change the seems like so we can never talk to the person who was there.

Right.

All right.

So what happened?

Uh, from my understanding, what had happened was that an associate had sold to a at least somebody that was appearing to be a minor during a sting.

Okay, what's the policy for the corporation?

Uh the policy for the corporation is that we ID everybody regardless of age, but especially if they look under 40.

Okay, so what happened to the employee?

Uh she was indefinitely suspended.

Um, and then she because Kroger is a union company, she grieved her her suspension and ended up getting her job back based on HR.

Uh any retraining, I assume, of some sort.

Yep.

So as soon as she was uh onboarded again, uh she had to go through uh what all of our associates have to go through, which is mandatory alcohol sales training that shows um signs of impairment, um, how to look at an ID, what ID is acceptable, and after that, um she was um and it's actually still is put on um special observation so whenever we're conducting our team observations we're making sure that you know if if there's alcohol present that she's following the the proper protocols and how long is this location had a license?

I'm not sure right offhand.

This is the uh 2010 is when we opened, yeah, 2009.

This is their first violation with the compliance chat.

Um so corporate policy for sales to minor is not it's not automatic termination.

Uh so I don't believe that it's automatic termination, it's case by case, but um we determined you know in that instance that we would terminate but through a union grievance conversation that's tough spot for them.

Um all right, any further questions from the board hearing none?

Uh do we have a motion?

Motion approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR4904451, D and E Groves LLC, doing business uh business as 31 bar and grill address 3131 Shelby Street.

Anyway, it's okay.

Calling RR4934236 exceed expectations, doing business as La Pete Restaurant address 8487 Union Chapel Suite 2400.

Yes.

All right, sir.

Uh, what's your name in relationship to the business?

Ali the Soraki on the commanding partner.

Managing partner?

Yes, sir.

Okay, do you know why you're here?

Yes, sir.

Why?

Uh expire liquor license.

Expire employment.

Employee permit.

Okay.

Uh just pull it up here.

Do the permit.

How many servers do you have?

Probably above 50, 55 altogether.

For all your locations?

How many?

So, how are how are those records kept?

So each location the front of a house manager is responsible for keeping track of the uh mining boy.

The problem with this one was the gate keeper was not doing a good job for her own.

So, what happened to her?

Uh, she just forgot to read new one.

No, what'd you do?

So, once I find this out, now we have a database that everybody's name license expiration is there, so you know in that fence.

Okay.

Who's responsible for that?

You are yes, so that's your responsibility month a month.

You go in there, and you've got everything ordered by dates.

All right.

That's just management.

That's what we usually say, guys.

I guess you know.

But if you saw if you were here earlier, you know, these things slip and then they become another violation, then a bigger and a bigger, but are you telling the board this is a one-off and not a trend?

Yes, sir.

Because we don't have a lot of repeat.

I've never had repeat issues.

Oh are you guys changing your name?

You already did.

Yeah, you already did.

Yeah.

Maple.

Yeah, Maple.

That was it.

Any questions from the board?

Yeah, I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Great.

Thank you.

Calling RR 493 4739, KJ Bond, LLC doing business as Red's Quarter, 2137 South Marina Street.

Anyone here for Red's corner?

Okay.

Calling DL493-1516 Aldi Indiana LP doing business as Aldi.

Address 5151 East 82nd Street Suite 100.

There we go.

I'll request a continuance for that one as well.

All right, ma'am.

What's your name and your relationship to the business?

Grace Eichenberger, district manager.

Grace, do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why?

Uh we had an employee fail a sting back in March.

And she sold alcohol to a minor.

What is your policy on checking IDs?

Any customer that appears to be under 40 years of age is required to present ID.

So what happened with your employee?

She claims that she was, you know, stressed out, multitasking, distracted, although she recognizes those are all just excuses and just ultimately failed to check the ID.

But what happened to her?

Oh, she was placed on a final warning.

Okay.

And that's part of a written policy.

Correct.

All right.

Um, how long have you been at that store?

I've been over that store location since about August of 2023.

All right.

Do we have a long violation report?

Uh no, it's a compliance check.

Yeah.

Do you have any train training programs?

Yes.

So all employees um are required to sign off on our national procedure for alcohol sales when they're first hired, and then every year um thereafter they are required to sign off on that as well.

And she was reassigned that training after she failed asking.

I was just reading reading part of the report it's uh that where they went to speak with the clerk and said she didn't even know what we can get in owl was.

Is there something in the register that pops up when alcohol is scanned that says check ID?

Yes.

So she would have known it was alcohol and she needed to check an ID.

Yes.

So the transaction will go through.

Did she put in a different birth date?

It just says like appro like um meet age criteria, enter this for yes, enter this for no.

So they don't actually have to enter the birth date.

Okay.

That's so the clerks make the judgment call on whether or not they believe they appear to be under 40.

Correct.

All right.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, ma'am.

Thank you.

Calling RR 493 5179, Juicy Seafood Indy, doing business as juicy seafood restaurant bar.

Address 2801 Lake Circle Drive.

Can you swear Mr.

Bacon in?

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Just no.

Thank you.

And sir, what is your name and relationship to the business?

My name's Lindsay Bacon.

I'm the regional general manager.

Okay.

Mr.

Bacon, do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why?

Because of a violation at that particular restaurant.

What what happened in that violation?

Uh uh guess, sir, with a card.

Um this is another another compliance check with XIS.

What is your policy for checking IDs?

Uh, right now it's a written policy, and the staff agreement that all uh patrons need to be called customers, sir, um card in regardless of the age.

And what what happened to the employee?

She was terminated.

How long have you had your license?

Uh that particular restaurant is uh what I eight years now.

They there was a compliance check in 2019 and they passed.

Okay.

Yes, so they've had no previous violations.

All right.

It's a one-off.

Not a trend.

Excuse me.

Do you feel like this is a trend or a one-off?

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR 493-5371 45 LLC doing business as the Vogue.

Address 6259 North College Avenue.

There should be two violations for them.

Continue.

Oh calling DL493-2005, Indiana Fine Wine and Spirits, LLC doing business as total wine spirits, beer and more.

Address 1460 East 86 Street.

For total wine.

Yeah.

This was their first one.

Yeah.

And even in the state, wasn't it?

Uh the first, yeah, so the first package liquor store.

We were involved in that.

If you go down uh memory lane, there was a uh former statute on the books that said to have a package liquor store license, you had to be an Indiana resident, quantified Indiana resident.

Um we challenged that law on one and here we are.

See what you've done.

It was much better when we're we're here just getting new app new permits, and unfortunately today we're here to talk about a uh compliance check that wasn't um passed.

Let's see who you have with you.

So uh David Eads store manager of store north.

Were you the store manager when this happened?

No, it was not.

It's every time okay.

Tell me what happened.

As you've been from what I understand, it was uh compliance check and uh they failed the sting.

Yeah, they sold to a minor.

What is your policy?

Uh it's automatic termination for the employee.

Um pretty straightforward.

If if the if the employee takes it home to self and doesn't involve a manager, then they're out.

If they question it, call a manager over and a manager approves it, then the manager's out.

What is y'all policy for checking IDs?

Uh anyone that appears 40 or under, we check.

And actually the the computer, the system will you flip it over, you can scan the back of it, and it will lock it up if it if it doesn't meet the criteria.

In this in this instance, I don't it it's not in the excess report at this, I don't believe it is, but um Total Wine did their own internal investigation and uh you know talked with the employee and like what are you doing?

You know that our policy is if they look under 40.

I've seen the picture of the she looks under 40.

Um and her comment was she reminded me of my nephews that are over 21, and so I thought she was over 21 as well, and just you know, didn't follow the policy, served, um, and she was terminated.

Um you may recall, maybe again, total wine takes us very seriously.

They're in the majority of the states in the country now and in every state, they'll prohibit selling to someone who's not 21.

Um, they do uh in-depth internal compliance checks of their own.

Uh like secrets.

Exactly.

And if the associates pass, they actually get a financial bonus or an incentive to you know that hey, good job, you did you know your job, you followed the policies.

So it's taken very seriously.

Employees know it.

This former employee now did not follow the policy, and that brings us here today.

She's no longer there.

Correct.

Um the scanning when you scan something, do they punch in a uh what they see on the ID or do they scan the ID?

They they could do either one, they can put it in or they can scan it.

If they scan it, then the the computer does work for them.

And if they're it actually goes a step further, if they are 21 between 21 and 22, it still stops it, and a manager has to come up and verify it and then approve it from there.

So any anybody that's on the border, we can catch two.

But then we also only allow the cashiers to do contiguous state IDs.

So if it's if it's not a contiguous state, you know, one they might not be aware of, they don't see that often.

Sure.

They'll call a manager, or if it's it's an ID, a passport or something that they might not be aware of.

They call a manager and we have to approve it.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck, sir.

Calling DL4932133.

Regisuru Inc.

doing business as Roger Surro, Inc.

Address 3801, East New York Street.

This one's kind of sound familiar.

This is a remanding application.

Um if you remember this was taxes.

This was well, it was an issue of um hindrance.

I do remember that.

He was the owner of the sun came in.

We thought the son wasn't honest with us.

They asked the commission if the we would rehear it with the in here.

And so that's for that.

Okay.

Okay.

Um raise your right hand.

Do you solemnly swear if reminder of the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might get to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and not the metal truth.

Yes, I do.

Then state your names for the record.

Uh to a verbal.

And you're the owner, sir, correct?

Yeah, well, we're both co-both call owners.

You were not, were you an owner at the time?

Yeah.

You were here last time.

Yeah.

Right, and Regener was um traveling um back in March.

So and I was not present um at that hearing either.

So you know, we had um uh, you know, Officer Sunier already kind of reminded the board of what previously occurred.

Um we asked for remand because you know, I was able to work with the clients, get certain documents.

I'm hoping to present them to you today and just clear up what happened in March.

Um again, there were two violations that they had that that they had since their last renewal.

One was a uh SAC check fail.

Um and the other was for yes, for there was uh hindering the display of the permit and then failure to post no smoking signage.

Um first on the SAC violation.

I just would like to note that they have um actually installed an ID scanner now.

Um so they you know they they're they use that for every transaction, they they card everyone and it it shuts the transaction down if the ID doesn't come back with an over 21.

So they've you know hopefully addressed that going forward.

I they did also provide me this, you know, they did pass um last year a tobacco check, so that this is from the FSSA congratulating them on passing that age restricted uh purchase check.

So the um the other violation, there were basically two issues.

Um one had to do with receipts that were in the back office that you know showed these negative transactions, and the other had to do with the clerk.

Um in the incident report, the clerk it talked about the clerk and um you know he wouldn't give his last name, and I would just like to present, you know, there was some wondering of of what was going on there.

Um this was provided to excise following the incident report in the settlement, but this is like uh his one ID that they knew at that they did have um showing he he really does only have the one name, so um this employee was in training, and he after this all occurred, he was dismissed.

He's you know he's no longer working there, uh never completed his probationary period.

Um the other issue, and a tool can um probably explain this better than me, but basically their software at their facility went haywire, and they were inputting new um products into the system, a decimal place was off, and all of their accounts for their different departments went negative.

Um they ended up so these um right here are this is from their um the carrier for VeraFone showing that they had a they had to remotely restart their software, and this is actually from this is another log from the company that if you go to the very this is what the company provided when a tool reached out to say, hey, can I so this is the case number that was opened for it, and it's so they had to remotely restart like it was actually you know the the what's important to note is that it was an issue on the software end, and so they rang through these negative um charges, and then the and then they rank it back through positive to fix the glitch and and tool is there is there anything else?

Yeah, that's basically it.

Uh we contacted varifone in regards to this uh issue.

They had to reload then restart the software fully and upgrade our system fully, and that's what you've now upgraded your yeah, it's you had a you had an older yeah, older software system on our commander unit.

And that's when excise comes in.

And excise, yeah.

So the XIS came in on the 27th, and then they fixed it the next day on the 28th.

Yeah, by contacting verifying, we have to wait for them to do it from their end because we weren't able to do it from ours.

So we had this issue and we had a minor served.

There was yes, that there was a sack violation.

So the person in training.

Right.

When somebody went to the back, I think that's a different different thing.

This one, um they'd have so they had these ACT violation that was was dealt with and issued on a date, a certain date, and then officers went back in later on, um, because the clerk wasn't providing his full name during the compliance check.

And then additionally, while they're in there, they found some other things like the failure to post the smoking science and the permit, and then ultimately the hindering.

Um so one of the issues, and I understand that there's there's there are glitches that happen with computer systems, but in the report it states that uh find it.

Mr.

Verma, is that you?

Yeah, that at one point in the office you picked up a stack of receipts and stood up and moved them to your pocket, like you were going to put them into your pocket.

Actually, I was they were using this what I mean.

I was throwing it up.

Okay.

I'm sorry, I don't I can't hear you.

Uh can I speak for him because his English isn't that that well?

So uh he was actually trying to just throw it in the garbage because at that point they we had already contacted Veriphone and the receipts were useless, but for some reason the excise officer said that he was attempting to put it in his pocket.

Do you understand you understand how that looks when officers are looking through documents on your desk because of a stack of papers and kids?

100% my father didn't really understand what was going on at that moment, so he was just unaware of what he was doing at that moment.

And I would also just note that um they got these NOVs and settled them immediately.

So they didn't contact an attorney.

They didn't, you know, I mean, if if they had contacted me to kind of go over this and their side of the story with the prosecutor, you know, hopefully we would not have had the hindering violation on the settlement.

But you know, they I mean the settlement it was issued on March 22nd, it was signed and settled on March 28th.

So tell me about the state.

You we we voted, I guess we voted to deny.

Voted to deny, then you um so it was so it went into the uh administrative appeal process.

Umce I really got working on it, um, I guess I just thought that rather than go through a full-blown administrative appeal, what I had gathered, I I thought was enough to just come to this board for a do-overhearing.

But you had to tell some.

I had I had to I filed um a motion to um for remand to the local board with the Alcalan Tobacco Commission that vote was approved by the four commissioners of the ATC and they voted they reviewed this new information before they send it back to us.

They I didn't I didn't give them this evidence, no.

So you didn't um I I told them in my motion that um you know I had information that I would like to present to the board for all intents and okay.

Um the other question too.

I have on the hindering, because hindering to me is a big deal.

That's a big one.

And the reason it's a big deal is because when you apply for a license and you and you're given a license, you state that you understand that you got to cooperate with XIC police.

Um the officer stated in his report that you told you told them that that Santi was not an employee.

He was in pro his probationary shadowing training period at that point in time.

He wasn't really in just seeing how that worked at that point in time.

We could call it training, but he was literally his first two days there.

But you were paid.

Yeah.

No, he was not being paid, not paid.

He was wearing a sh a shell shirt, an employee shirt.

He had sold to the miner previously.

Yeah, so when he had sold to the miner, he was doing it while we were all in the back uh dealing with inventory and things like that.

We shouldn't have even done the sale in the first place, and that's our fault for letting him, you know, uh, so he's in training.

Yeah, we're not disputing that.

No, I'm just I'm just trying to understand.

He's in training, he's behind the cash register, and he's not supposed to be making any sales, but he's left unsupervised behind the cash register to make sales.

He wasn't unsupervised at that moment of time when he made that sale.

Uh there was actually three people behind him, uh, including my mother and uh what's it?

Uh my cousin was there as well.

So there's there was other people there that weren't he wasn't just standing there unsupervised.

So there were people there watching him serving him make a sale.

Yeah, the the original people that the my actual workers were working there, but they were working with the inventory and like putting cigarettes packs up and everything else.

And while that happened, a customer came in and he took the initiative and which he should have and did so and it just so happened that it was a compliance check and it was excised.

Unfortunately, yes.

But this is our first violation since we've ever gotten it, and even since then we filed extensions and had no violations, we've upgraded our system.

We just want to do right by this, and we don't believe that one distinction.

Yeah, to that point.

I mean, that this is from March of 2024.

So, you know, they've been operating for over a year since this um up until then had had a uh good record of compliance.

Um this occurred.

You know, we're asking for um a renewal and to continue to show compliance.

I will I will tell you I don't know if you guys remember, but this was a location I went into myself prior to the meeting because I wanted to see if they would comply with excise, and they did the day I was in there, they were very compliant.

Yeah, employee had an ID.

Um Mr.

Verma was out of town, but he was willing to send his daughter into the office to unlock the office unlock the office for us.

Um I was fully prepared to come into this meeting at the that meeting and approved them at least for one year.

But then we felt like I'm sorry I forgot your name, sir.

A tool.

I I I felt we've we the board felt like he was not being honest with us at the time his answers to our questions didn't make any sense.

Kind of like the answer just now about the employee.

Well, he wasn't employee, he wasn't being unsupervised, he was just shouldn't have made the sale, but he did make the sale and just I happen stance was excise, you know, coincidence.

Well, it's let's do this in the matter of I feel like we've heard this case a couple times.

I'm gonna make a motion for a one-year renewal that gives you guys 12 months to show us that that the that these are problems of the past.

You've got your software in place now, so we shouldn't have any problems there.

You know the state rules.

Uh I make a motion for a one-year renewal.

Is there a second?

Second.

Motion and a second for a one-year renewal.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries good luck.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Very much appreciated.

Thank you.

I think your your phone was blinking again.

Maybe it's often no, you're the guy behind you.

Keep catching this disco ball reflection.

DA 493 2227, Rockville 73.

Inc doing businesses, King Liquors.

Address 7302 Rockville Rome.

All right, sir.

What is your name and your relationship to the business?

My name's Sucrina Deep C so I'm the I don't place for them.

Then they are not here.

I look after the police.

Are you an employee?

Do you work for this establishment?

Are you paid by these people?

Whenever I go there then.

So what is your role?

I'm wondering if you should even be here.

You are a manager.

Yes.

We uh put on other location for them.

Do you do you have a manager's agreement on file?

Do you have an employee permit?

Uh yes.

You do?

Do you have a manager's agreement question a manager's questionnaire on file that show that shows the commission that you're the manager?

Uh no, because the owner, the man the guy who take it, he's out of tone right now.

So that's why on behalf of him.

Let's just postpone this.

I'd like to talk to him.

So you tell him wherever he's at that we'll have a meeting the first Monday of next month, and at 9 30 we'll start it and he can be here.

October 6th.

Sure.

He needs to come to the meeting on October 6th.

Sure, I will tell him that.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling DL493.

2305 Indy Smoke Time Inc.

Doing address 1904 this Broad Ripple Avenue.

All right, sir.

What's your name and your relationship to the business?

My name is John Palcing, and I'm the owner.

You're the owner?

Yes, sir.

Alright.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes, sir.

Why?

My employees sold uh the miners.

All right.

Uh and the smoke sh.

What happened?

There you go.

Walk through it.

Oh.

Someone came there and he did not check IDs and it sold to that.

He did a mistake, and after that we just fired him because our policy is uh if somebody said to the miners, it's maybe terminated from the job.

But he worked for us last uh two years, and I gave him a chance for a given green.

Like I would retrain him, you know.

I know he's still working same location, but how many employees you had?

I have four employees.

Do you have a training program on checking IDs?

Yes, sir.

How long have you had your license?

Uh this location uh last uh two years running.

How many violations do you have?

Uh just only this one.

This one?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

How does the transaction take place?

Do you have a scanner?

Yes, sir.

So you scan the ID?

I know.

No, actually check the ID.

You check the ID and then you punch in numbers.

Uh no, not punching numbers.

You just hold it.

It's there.

You just look at the ID.

Yes, sir.

Leaves you a little vulnerable.

Uh from an ownership standpoint.

There are scanners out there that will not allow a transaction to take place unless they're above the current the right age.

We are working on that too, like putting all of the locations.

We did like a couple locations like a but we are working on that too.

How many locations do you have?

Uh for that beer and uh beer serving two locations.

One on the broad ripple and one on college avenue.

But I have a tobacco store, which one's scan ID too.

Or just tobacco.

Yes, sir.

Yes, ma'am.

Do you ever send in secret shoppers to check your own staff?

Uh we do like a our manager, you know, and uh but we don't send like a everybody knows each other.

So we try to send like a like buttful buddies, you know.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion approved.

Motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Calling RR4937365.

Copia LLC doing business as another broken egg cafe.

Address 5025 East 82nd Street.

Sweet 2500.

Anyone do this one, Mr.

Craig in?

You need sworn in, please raise your hand.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Okay.

What's your name, sir?

Wesley Ryan Craig.

Any relationship to the business.

One of the things co-owners.

How many like locations do you have?

Uh in total, we have eight locations.

As far as Copia is concerned, we have five.

How long have you had the permit at this location?

2017.

No, sorry, 2021.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why are you here?

Uh one of our employees did not check an ID.

It was a compliance check.

Yes.

What's your policy for checking IDs?

Uh anybody who orders alcohol gets checked.

Regardless of age?

Correct.

So what happened with this server?

She just decided not to check.

And when the alcohol was then brought back to the guest by the bartender trying to help out, he's the one that got danged.

So it was kind of a the right person did not get the correct fine.

It's the best way to explain it.

So someone else brought the alcohol to the table.

Server took the order, the bartender would server took your order, did not card them.

Put the order in, the bartender was doing doing a solid by helping her out by delivering it to the table.

And he dropped it at the table.

Honestly, what should have happened is she should have carded the first time.

And when he brought it to the table, he should have recognized that it was someone who was underaged and stopped and said, hey, what he did from what I was told from our internal investigation, he sent the alcohol to the person that looked the oldest, but it wasn't the person that ordered it.

So it's kind of a calamity of airsport.

How long did you say you had your license for?

Uh since this location, 2021.

And how many violations do you have?

No.

What happened in this scenario to the employees?

Uh the original server was termed.

The bartender who took it was written up and also went back through and had to do the retraining through the corporate training, alcohol training program.

Through another broken egg of America.

Sure.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR49398 PC Entertainment LLC doing business as Nevermore.

Address 39 Jackson Place Suite 135.

Anyone here for Nevermore?

Okay, so I'll continue.

Calling RR4938992 in the Supermart Inc.

Address 2040 East Washington Street.

This one's gonna be continued pending as a pending violation.

Calling RR493978 Fusion Inc.

Do a business as Moon Bar Grill, address 148 East Market.

This one's been continued.

But before I move on on that one, I just that's the one that we talked about at the beginning of the meeting.

Um and said that we would continue it because as a public information request.

I just want to make it really clear because I don't want to set a bad precedent.

Yeah.

That it wasn't because he just received the items for um from IMP this morning.

That was not the reason for the continuance.

The continuance was because he had submitted a public information request a month ago and hadn't received the information back to review that.

I just I want to make that clear distinction.

So the distinction is that help me out with the morning part.

Because that's part of, I mean, I think it was a 30 days ago.

He only got it this morning.

Which is they're not required, they're not required to present him with the exhibits prior to the meeting.

Uh huh.

Um so that I just want to be clear, I don't want to set it back precedent and and have that, you know, we we start seeing a lot of those requests.

That was not the reason for the continuance to continues because he had gone to the city, he had requested put in a public information request a month ago and hadn't received information back from them yet.

Yes.

Okay.

Right.

I just want to put that on the record.

Yes.

Because I could see where you could start making this request on a Friday, knowing we have a meeting on a Monday, and there's just no what?

Yes.

But if you give me 30 days, then I start to say, well.

Yes.

All right.

All right, Jamaican Breeze.

Yeah.

Um, RR4940164, Jamaica Breeze Sports Bar and Grill, LLC.

Do a business at Jamaica Breeze Sports Bar and Grill address 4189 Keystone.

Good afternoon.

Good.

Oh gosh, it is, isn't it?

So thank you.

You need sworn in?

Yes.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you have given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

What's your name?

Howard Mason.

And your relationship to the business.

I'm the owner.

Okay.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes, I am.

Why are you here?

I had a staff served uh minor September 13th, about 1140 in the morning.

This is a compliance check.

It was that side.

There were a couple couple other issues too, right?

Yes.

Okay, what else?

Um it was a server that was not supposed to sell alcohol, and the customer actually took out the household.

They were allowed to walk out the alcohol.

What's your policy for checking IDs?

Uh everyone gets checked.

So what happened to the employee you did not?

She got verbal and a written uh warning.

But first, she was not a bartender.

She was not supposed to be serving alcohol that day.

I was present and I was supposed to be the one serving onto my bartender came.

I was on the premises, but not in front or at the bar.

Okay.

And we just opened up like 30 minutes.

She had a rush uh lunch line and uh exercise walk to the bar with the miner.

And she was went over there, asked them what they wanted, and she wasn't supposed to.

She was supposed to get me.

So she knew she was supposed to come and get you.

Yes.

And she did just decided on her own to serve.

Yes.

Yeah, and they've got that even in the report.

Yeah.

So you understand you've got all your employees that serve have to have employment.

Yes.

How many and how many servers do you have when with employment?

I have three servers and two bartenders.

Okay.

And everyone's current has em how do you keep track of their expiration dates?

So um me and my wife, she has it in our calendar.

She has all their information in the calendar so she gets a notification when something expiring or needs to be renewed.

Okay, and then as far as the carry out goes.

So apparently the miner said they had to leave and she put the cat back on the beer and said she could take it with her.

Because we have a patio, she thought she was gonna sit on a patio, but that wasn't the case.

So you under you you your employees know that there's no she was never supposed to even be serving.

Okay at all.

So this was your first compliance check?

It was.

And and they gotcha.

So they're coming back.