Stay for the violations.

Come back in about an hour and a half.

All right.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Today is January 5th.

2026.

This meeting.

This is her with that property.

If you need to have further discussion, um, can we have you guys step out in the hallway if you guys need to have further discussion?

All right.

Good morning.

Today is Monday, January 5th, 2026.

This hearing of the local alcoholic beverage board of Marion County is now in session.

My name is Tyler Graves, and I serve as the president of the board.

Today we will hear cases in Speedway, Beach Grove, Lawrence, and then the rest of Marion County, Indianapolis.

Sitting to my left, appointed by the Indianapolis City County Council is Miss Ebony Chappelle.

Sitting to my immediate right, representing the City of Indianapolis is Mr.

Peter Luster, and serving as Secretary of this board is Ex ICE Officer Amy Sunier.

This meeting is being broadcast live on Channel 16 and will be rebroadcast several times in the coming weeks.

You are on television and the board requests that you act accordingly.

At this time, please silence your cell phone so you do not interrupt the hearing.

If you find it necessary to have a call or a conversation with someone here with you, please be respectful and step out into the hallway.

Here is the order in which we will conduct business this morning.

Next we will hear next we will call all applicants for new or transfer application on today's docket.

We will then call renewals on today's docket, which have violations or remonstrators.

After we finish today's published docket, we will consider consider the cases that have been continued from a previous hearing.

Do each of you solemnly swear or from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answer you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Thank you.

If an applicant should have remonstrators, it has been the practice of this board to accept one request for continuance from both the applicant and the remonstrator.

Should the board deem it appropriate, additional continuances may be granted.

Are there any remonstrators in the hearing room?

There are remonstrators for RC four nine zero four zero two zero, the Indianapolis Lodge number seventeen loyal order of the moose.

That's who stepped out.

They're trying to resolve it prior to testifying.

Applicants appearing in Marion County are required to have four items before the board can hear your case.

We cannot and will not hear your case if you do not have these four items.

The first, the affidavit of compliance of posting the permit advertising sign from the ATC for at least 10 days prior to the meeting hearing.

The second, the affidavit of compliance or notice sent to property owners and neighborhood organizations that you sent written notice to about today's hearing.

The third, the zoning affidavit obtained from the Department of Metropolitan Development, and the fourth, the Marion County Tax Clearance form from the Indiana Department of Revenue.

In addition to those required documents, if you are are a new or transfer application, you are required to have an inspection approved prior to your permit being made active.

Um I will give you my contact information when we hear your application.

It's your responsibility to contact me.

All right, where do we want to start?

Lawrence.

Sure.

Gonna start today with the city of Lawrence.

We have a new application calling RR 4943192.

The Blue Lagoon LLC doing business as the Blue Lagoon at 11705 Pendleton Pike.

There was no sign posted for this location.

Anyone here for the Blue Lagoon?

Duh.

I will shall it continue.

Renewal calling DL 492 1258.

Walmart stores East LP Walmart Super Center 3529 at 107 35 Pendleton Pike.

Renew without violation.

Oh therefore I make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Uh all those in approved say aye.

Aye.

Jeez.

Okay.

Renewal without violations calling RR4936548 C and C restaurant LLC doing business as L Pal Marcito Mexican Restaurant 8345 Pelton Pike.

Make a motion for approval.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Calling DL 493291.

Racetrack Inc.

at doing business as racetrack at 7612 Pendleton Pike.

Renewal with no violations, therefore I make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Calling DL 493765 PWS Fall Creek LLC doing business as pure wine and spirits at 9743 47 Fall Creek Road.

Renewal with no violations, therefore I make uh I'll take a second.

I can't speak.

I'll second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

And to get my get back in my reason.

All right.

Renewal with violation.

RR 4936592.

Um 8501 Pend Pendleton Club LLC is doing business as Harem House at 8501 Pendleton Pike.

Uh this one's still pending, so it will be continued.

Moving on to Beach Grove.

Renewal without violation.

RR 4986390.

Antoinette Pizza doing business as Napoli Villa Restaurant at 758 Main Street.

Uh renewal without violations, therefore I make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

Uh all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

That's done.

Okay, we have a violation.

We have RR 4941455, Jess and Boo LLC doing business as Night Owl Saloon and Grill at 3535 South Emerson Avenue.

We get the violation on this.

I'm sure we do.

You may have to start.

It's under night owls.

Okay.

Morning.

Good morning.

Nick, would you like to introduce your client?

Yeah, Nick Royals with Bradford and Riley.

With me, I have um Jessica Kennedy.

Kennedy, sorry.

Um, one of the owners for Jess and Boo Night Owls.

All right, ma'am.

Uh, what's your relationship to the business?

Uh one of the owners.

One of the owners, how many are there?

Two.

Um, do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why?

Because I I screwed up.

Well, yeah, how'd you screw up?

I served to a minor.

What's your policy on checking IDs?

Um, anyone who looks under 40.

What happened to your policy?

Um, I was distracted.

I shouldn't have been bartending.

Um my bartender called off and I was doing management things when I was bartending and answered the phone, it was on the phone, and I was distracted.

What time of day was it?

Uh 1145.

Yeah, it was early.

Well, how long have you had your license?

Uh we got it May of 24.

I believe so.

Yeah.

This was a location that was a problem under the previous owners.

Uh I remember.

Yeah.

So they had been put on on the pace program because of that.

These owners?

No.

No, previous ownership.

The previous ownership.

So um access did a a check, uh compliance check because of the issues of previous owners.

This is the first violation that this owners had.

Have you had any issues?

Have you had any police runs?

Um we've we've had to call the cops a few times, yes.

For what kind of issues?

Um just to help us get people that are arguing out of there or um it's been some theft in the parking lot that they've been called out there for that.

Okay.

Uh probably about four times for the parking lot.

Do you have all the lights on outside?

Are your lights operational?

Yes.

We have a light right outside the door too.

I'm not sure.

It's pretty lit up right outside the door, but I don't know how far out it is.

Because it's a multiple people parking lot.

It's true.

Yeah, it's parking lot kind of right behind the strip, right?

Well, it'd be in front of the street.

Sorry, yeah.

Second L.

I couldn't remember the I knew it was it in the strip mall, I just couldn't remember the location of the parking lot.

Well, we probably need to refocus here.

I mean the parking lot and the police runs, you know.

If something goes wrong, you call the police and you did the right thing there.

Um but you have a policy that you set.

Yes.

That you didn't follow.

Yes.

So uh that's the issue at hand here.

What's what's gonna change now?

Um, first off, I don't bartend anymore.

I do management stuff.

Um, and if I do have to bartend, it's only I don't do any management, I focus on what I'm doing, so I don't get distracted.

Yeah, be where your feet are, right?

Be present what's going on.

Okay, well, I mean they came in because the place has been a problem, and then uh to just kind of double check, and then they find that they didn't get an ID check, so you have to ask yourself do you think that's the last time they come back and see you?

Oh no, they're gonna be back.

Right.

So with that, does anybody have any further questions?

We have a motion.

I make a motion to approve.

Um haven't had it very long, and you've got a violation, and I'll follow her on that.

I just hope that we've got your attention and uh we don't see you again.

So there's a motion for approval.

I can uh second that.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye, aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Okay, moving on to speedway.

Renewal without violations, calling RR493074 Chicago's Pizza Enterprises Incorporated, doing business as Chicago's Pizza 6321 Crawford's Mill Road, renewal without violation.

Therefore, I make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All right, moving on to Indianapolis.

It's all your feet.

Calling RR 4942810, Restaurante Guada Malteco LLC.

Address 3737 East Washington Street, suite A.

Excuse me.

Anyone here for that application?

All right.

Next calling RR494-2841, King's Bakery LLC, doing business as King's Bakery, address 10069 East Washington Street.

They have requested one more continuance.

This will be the last continuance.

Calling CH4930290, Flick International Corporation.

Address 450 Alanco Circle.

Any other person is a curious.

Okay.

We need to move this one down the list.

They're running late.

Calling RR494 3049, La Ola Azul Restaurante, Mariscos Estello.

Near it, LLC.

Address 2211 South Kentucky Avenue.

Um they are being continued.

They were missing paperwork this morning.

Calling RH493040, Delta Hotel Indy LLC, doing businesses home to suites, Indianapolis downtown, 115 Pennsylvania Suite 150.

They're also being continued.

They were missing paperwork this morning.

Calling RR4943122, ANG Partners LLC doing business as the Burger Hook, the Burger Hubs.

5450 East Fall Creek Parkway, North Drive Suite 105.

It's gonna be a very quick meeting.

Calling RR494-3141, Big Car Media Inc.

doing businesses, big tube art space address 1146 Nelson Avenue.

Next week's next month's gonna be long.

You can go ahead and have a seat.

Okay.

Morning, Greg Genrick with Bradford with me.

Is Jim Walker and Dylan?

Delia Nealin.

All right.

What are we here to do today?

They have a license, a civic center license for the uh big tube uh art space.

Sure, which is was I think ratified by state assembly two years ago to allow for artist colonies to hold a two three-way permit.

Okay.

So they they have a permit, but we're we're applying for it.

Yeah.

The buildings have been under construction timing for the building is uh late April.

Late April, okay.

So is this your first permit in the state of Indiana?

We've had a beer and wine permit for about two years coverage.

Okay.

Um how many violations do you have on that?

Zero.

Zero.

What's your policy on checking IDs?

Everybody uh who appears to be under 40.

Okay.

What happens if one of your employees does serve a minor?

Uh we report that.

Any repercussions to that employee or like one uh one and then you're fired or a retraining?

Is there anything that would happen if one of your employees served a minor?

Retraining and a warning and then they'd be fired.

They did it again.

Okay.

Um what are the hours of operation?

The hours start to be determined to a degree, but primarily our current hours are Wednesday through Friday to 9 a.m.

to 6 p.m.

and then Saturdays and Sundays 9 a.m.

to 3 p.m.

Explain the concept.

That's yeah, but this is here's I don't hear some people.

This is the floor plan.

So it's a it's a large building.

We're going to have a couple large event spaces, and then you'll have the vendor booths, right?

As for the art gallery.

I'll let you explain all of that.

But yeah, walk walk through the concept.

What is this?

It's basically a contemporary art museum.

So we've been operating at a smaller scale this way for the last 10 years.

It's been called Tube Factory Art Space.

It's done by Garfield Park.

So what this is is a building adjacent to it that we've been able to renovate and expand into, and it'll be a continuation of what we've done over there.

So you might have music events, you might have art openings, you'll have art shows, you have community gatherings, our neighborhood has met in our building.

Um that's what that space is for, basically.

How does the alcohol transaction take place?

Does someone go to a designated bar area?

Yes.

Could you tell us a little bit just about that?

Yeah, the bar area is um set back, and we'll have a perimeter, like all the things that we're we've been consulting on how to set that up properly, so that'll all be set up.

Um, and the um that's how it's been at our other space too.

Okay, and you'll have an amphitheater outside as well, right?

Right.

So there's also this place has uh live music and markets and things that happen outside as well.

What would be the largest capacity crowd you would have?

Um 400 or 500 would be the largest, and that and we've done that recently with the outdoor event.

How many employees?

How many servers did you have?

In that case, we only had the one bar open inside the building, that current bar, and we had two people working in there at the bar.

But we had all we had six or seven other people working outside and doing handling the event.

Are the so that is the ID checked at the bar or it was checked out the bar?

Um there's signage that says you can't go into this area when you're um under 21.

How do you prevent um someone from purchasing alcohol at the bar in this case when the amphitheater is open, for example, and taking it outside and passing it off?

There's a lot of people who are walking around with security.

There, we don't have um official security staff, but we have people who are trained to walk through the event and keep an eye on everything and be monitoring for things like that.

Okay, and how will you all handle food because there's a food requirement attached to yeah?

The new building has a kitchen and it will have a cafe in it as well, and our current building has some food offerings that are just minimal food offerings, they've always been in there.

Got it.

All right, any further questions from the board?

Uh when do when do you have your first event planned or when do you plan to the first public event will be May the first.

Uh we have uh plans for a preview events.

That'll probably be April the 25th in the new building.

Some of that depends on construction time, but hopefully it'll work.

All right.

With that, I'll accept a motion.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you very much.

Calling RH 4930402 Hotels of Indy.

Hotels of downtown Indy LLC doing business as homewood suites, Indianapolis, downtown.

211 South Meridian Street.

Anyone here for Homewood Suites?

Okay.

Moving on to transfer applications.

Calling RR494 2839 TNT Enterprises LLC.

Address 5820 West 56 Street Suite 5.

I think, yeah, we were hoping to get a revenue clearance this morning.

Um I haven't heard confirmation from the client.

We possibly recall it.

Um I'll give them a call and see if they would read that as somewhere on their way.

Okay.

Calling RR494 3005 Nova Lounge Inc.

doing business's Nova Lounge, address 5030 Southeastern Avenue.

And this one and we are trying to withdraw request.

You're gonna withdraw this one?

Uh uh and then they they have identified a new buyer.

Um we're just trying to work with the commission on on getting that switched out.

Okay.

Calling RR494-3008, S and E and P L L C doing business as TBD address 6331 Guilford Avenue.

This one's requested a continuance.

Okay.

Calling RR4937564, AGT management LLC doing business as smoky waters address 5130 West 38th Street.

This application's been withdrawn.

Calling RR494 3008, Maiva Nightclub Inc.

doing businesses address 3890 Lafay Road.

I did not see a sign for this one.

Morning.

It is posted.

Let me see if when I went by, I didn't see it.

Yeah.

Do you sit there, sir?

Do you sit there behind uh so 38th and Lafayette Road?

And there was an Indiana lighting store.

Do you sit behind that?

Yeah.

What are they gonna do with that?

Okay, I agree.

Oh, yeah.

But they've torn uh they've torn the lighting store down.

I know.

I just wonder what's gonna do.

I don't know.

I'm shocked I didn't have to burn down.

It's uh it was kind of a landmark type.

Uh on the 29th, there was no time.

I think I don't know.

38th left.

Yeah, a lot going on there.

There's a lot going on in the there it was not up there today, everybody.

I don't know if it's been written down.

I think that another physics and this time and left and down.

In front there.

So you can press it up with it.

So he had it posted in the window right in the front.

Trying to figure out the orange sign.

I'll give these back to you, Alex.

Wherever it's posted, it's gonna have to be moved because I didn't see it.

I don't know.

I know like some of those windows are mirrored, so I don't know if that's the issue.

Maybe okay if we can buffet a scooter.

Yeah, maybe not something I said later.

Okay.

So do we need that use Sam?

Yes, yeah.

So we need to repost it.

Repost it, make sure it can be seen from the street clearly, easily.

And we'll see in February.

All right, I think this windows are dark over here.

Okay, that's what you find?

No.

Oh, I think I know where this is.

No, he's in the screen.

I don't know.

Exactly where it's a cross street.

Yeah.

He's across the street from the movie theater.

No, it's the it's across the street from Zoom.

Okay.

All right.

Um, come on.

So being withdrawing our application.

No.

So she's decided that they're not going to con they're not going, she's not going to stay and testify.

So if you still want to testify, you can well you're welcome to stay and testify when we call that application.

Okay.

But so it's it's still in review status?

Yes.

Calling DL4934319.

King Liquors.

Okay.

Calling out there they're here.

Oh Greg is going to have slides.

Sorry.

And then you check it.

Thank you.

Okay, morning.

Sorry.

Nick Royals with Bradford and Riley and with my apolog, um, owner for Gotra 72 uh properties for us.

Mr.

Singh is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

No, sir.

How many do you have?

I currently have five.

Five?

Yes.

And how many violations do you have on your five license?

Um I last year I have one, and then we have uh made those policies and uh where the employees that not to panic when they TC arrive.

Uh they were panicking to show um their uh liquor permit and stuff like that.

Forgot the ID and made it out of mess.

So I I I'm aware of my management to make sure that not that uh does not happen anymore.

So you've had one violation?

Yes.

Okay.

Um you're purchasing this license?

Uh yes, sir.

Any policy changes?

Anything different?

Uh it's all the same, like we check everybody's ID who look under 40s, uh, make sure you don't sell to miners, make sure they don't put any carbonated soda product in the refrigerators.

It's all the same.

What happens if one of your employees does serve a miner?

We do uh make them retrain, resatified, and uh that's for instance, and then if you know they don't understand, we we give them a uh I want to call suspension for two or three weeks, and then you know that's that's our policy.

Okay.

Are all of your um locations packaged stores?

Yes, ma'am.

Any further questions from the board?

None.

Do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second, second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you, sir.

Okay.

Calling R R 494 3142, IBWE Whiskey Company LLC doing business as Circle City Whiskey Company.

No address 2032 East 46 Street.

Is this new?

It's a transfer.

I've never heard of it.

There you go.

Morning.

Morning.

Greg Gender with Bradford and Riley with me is Ru Black, the owners of Circle City Brewing.

Hey, Greg, before you get started.

Um the tax clearance.

Yes.

I had got an email from Jeff Coyle that said that.

Yeah, what was look at on that clearance?

It's a it's past the date of Jeff's email.

Yeah.

All right, we're gonna I was looking at the date on the front.

Yes, yeah.

All right, go ahead.

I'm sorry.

They have a uh distillers permit, applied for artisan's distilleries permit, and want to have a tasting room, so this is a two ten license to go with the art artist and distillers permit.

Okay.

How long have you had your artisan distilled permit?

Uh we just uh passed inspection, so it's still pending right now.

Oh, okay.

But the still is you've had that for distilleries permit we've had since uh December of 24.

How many violations?

Zero.

All right, what's your policy for checking IDs?

Uh anybody that looks under 40.

How does a alcohol transaction take place?

Um so it's a traditional bar style.

Um we we do have uh we'll have servers serving folks at tables um and then also at the bar seating as well.

What happens if one of your employees does serve a minor?

Uh first file or first uh incident will be uh retraining recertification.

Uh second incident is uh termination.

What's the square footage of your building?

Uh total square footage is three thousand.

All right, and what capacity did they give you?

Uh we have not gotten capacity yet.

Okay.

But probably two thirds of it is the distillery.

Correct.

Yeah, okay.

So the this will be a tasting room or a full fledged restaurant.

Uh well, it's a tasting room, but we do have food.

I mean, we have a pizza and we'll serve food.

So, how many um what would be the capacity of that space at the tasting room?

Uh we're planning to have seating for 30.

Any further questions from the board?

When do you plan to open?

Um February 1st, ideally, if we can get inspection scheduled.

And you're gonna have separation.

Yes, yes.

Okay.

Okay.

With that, I'll accept the motion.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second, and a second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR494 3144 86 full bar restaurant LLC.

Do a business 86 full bar restaurant.

Address 3661 West 86th Street.

36.

Do you have paperwork?

They're gonna be continuing.

Yes.

Okay.

Um I will give you this.

This is a list of the four uh documents that you need to go into.

Yep.

Okay, this explains everything.

I'm not seeing just follow all the instructions.

Um there's a zoning form that you'll need to complete and send take to that agency.

This is in addition to the application you submitted to the commission.

These are additional documents.

So um you have to send them write a letter and send a notice to your neighbors.

This is where you get a list of the neighbors that you have to send those notices to.

You need a post of writing or sign, so you need to go to the ATC and get a payload sign.

That needs to be posted.

Uh 10 days prior to your meeting.

It needs to be up so it's by the public from the street.

Um, and you're gonna put the date on it of February 2nd.

Which is our next meeting.

So we're gonna continue your application today.

Here's my email if you have any questions.

Um take that.

Yeah, the zoning form is attached in there, and then it talks about the revenue form.

This is a separate tax one than what you submitted with your application.

So this is the tax one that I need to add down, hi.

Calling our calling RR494-3147 vertical bar group LLC doing businesses just winging it.

Address 7834 Michigan Road.

This one's in continuous Nick, there is no sign posted on this one either.

Yeah, I had the side of the interest.

Good morning.

Yeah, 12.

Yeah, it just we want to see if we can get an employee or something to verify that it's still there.

Oh, when she went by on the 29th, she said she couldn't see it.

So just see.

I know it they taped in the fail.

Okay.

Oh, so then it if it fell down, then it wasn't posted.

So we'll continue you to next month.

How do we I'll put it back up?

Well, I mean the odds of the one time I come by and it's that's it's down, and then you know what I'm saying.

So it has to be up.

I have when I go by and verify it's gotta be up for the public, so we'll have to continue to February.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

We did find that that photo is posted outside of the glass.

I didn't see it.

I mean, I had I had a bunch that did not have signs.

And here's how I feel about it is that if it's posted and I go by and I'm intentionally looking for it and I don't see it, it's not doing its job.

So if I'm intentionally looking for it and don't see it, then it's not serving its purpose.

So if it's posted, then it needs to be moved.

So the photo that I sent you, I mean you can see the parking lot.

It's on the outside.

I mean it's but I'm telling you the day that I went there, I didn't see it.

It wasn't posted.

I don't know if it fell down and got put back up, but I didn't see it.

So we'll have to continue it to next month.

Okay.

And I'm saying this for everyone else in the room.

If we haven't called you yet, and I tell you your signs are not posted, I'm not arguing with anybody else.

It's gonna be continued.

Thank you.

All right.

Calling RR49431, Burchuka Hospitality Group, Indiana LLC.

Address 130 South Pennsylvania Street, suite one.

Um they're missing paperwork, so they've continued.

Okay.

Cool.

Calling RR493 7060, Antejito's Hondorino's TIA Vilma Group.

Corp.

I'm sorry.

Uh 5801 Rockville Road.

They were missing paperwork, so they're continuing.

Yep.

Calling RR 494-2249, P and T3 Investment Corp.

Doing business as sincere address 5299 East 38th Street.

Their sign was not posted, so they are continued.

Yep.

No.

Uh flick.

Is flick are you here?

Okay, I'm gonna recall.

Oh, thanks.

Uh calling CA four nine three zero two nine zero flick.

International corporation address four theological circle.

Thanks.

Wow.

That was bizarre.

Scared me.

I need to swear in before we answer.

We're gonna have you swear in.

Oh, sure.

Oh, you don't have to stay and just raise your right hand when she's ready.

Okay, and raise your hand for me.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you have given on your application or any answer you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

I did.

What is your name and your relationship to the business?

Kenneth Thompson, uh district manager with Flick Hospitality.

Could you tell us in is this a hotel?

No.

What is Flick Hospitality?

Uh we're a management company, we do corporate contract catering, so we run cafes inside buildings that had offices.

This is a it's an office.

Yes.

Complex, correct?

So this will be a catering hall primarily used for events by Elenco.

So we're we hold the food license permit and then ideally the alcohol permit to support any events they're gonna manage on site.

Um so we'll host like a happy hour Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, like four to six only for the Alanco associates, and then we'll probably have about 50 events a year for Lanco or invited parties onto the premise.

So everything will be private events.

Correct.

Uh how will you check IDs?

Uh physically, as people come in.

And then are these employees of yours or do you all be employees of ours?

Um, or we'll contract with a temp services company if we have a large event, uh and everyone will have the um certification.

And what would happen if one of your employees did serve a minor?

Uh they'd be written up.

Uh it's a final warning that happened again, it'd be terminated.

What would be the max capacity for an event that they would host?

Uh 250, 300.

Okay.

And is the building still under construction?

Uh externally, yes.

Internal is all done.

We've been in it doing food service since uh October.

Okay.

When's the first scheduled event for alcohol?

Uh once we get our license.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

I will give you my card.

You'll need to schedule an appointment with me for me to do the inspection.

Okay.

Go ahead.

All right.

Do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

And second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

Violation.

You a violation.

Yeah, sorry.

Moving on to violations.

Calling DL499105 Speedway LLC doing business as speedway number 5525.

Address 4120E Southport Road.

Let me see how many times they think.

Yep.

I feel like I've been calling out.

They've been continued three times.

I've sent them notices every time.

Therefore, I make a motion to deny based on their inability to attend the meeting.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

Uh all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

All right.

Yep.

Calling R R I'm sorry, calling RC 4904020.

Indianapolis Lodge number 17, Loyal Order of Moose.

Address 7055 East 16th Street.

This is a renewal without violation.

However, we have remonstrators that wish to speak against the renewal.

I'll have you gentlemen from appearance inside this table.

Actually, before you sat down, I'll have you grab this from me, please.

I need you to fill that out.

You can just fill it out after you were done with your testimony.

Give it to me before you leave, okay?

All right.

And then I need to start you both in.

Go ahead and raise your audience for me.

Do each of you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application are any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Okay.

And you're both here to speak against the renewal of the permit for the moose lodge, correct?

Correct.

All right.

Could we start with the board?

Um the lady came in here.

Yes.

And she said what?

So there was a representative that came in from the Moose Lodge that said that the lodge has since closed down and that they are no longer operating or wish to continue with the permit.

So that permit, no matter what we say here today, is going away.

Correct.

All right.

And yet you still wish to speak.

I mean, is it going to be denied, or is it going to just are they withdrawing their application?

Or is it going to be a good one?

Or is it going to go into escrow and they're going to transfer to some another business that's going to take it over?

So currently they have submitted the renewal paperwork.

So without any testimony, any reason for us to deny, we would approve it because there has not been any violations.

So therefore, if there's they still wish to speak, then we need to listen to the case.

Oh, even though we have over a hundred different calls from the city of the police department of the city of Indianapolis.

I we don't have we are not aware of any of those calls.

We've not received any of the things that we have to do.

We've submitted you all the documentation, a complete list of the documentation.

I've submitted I've submitted this to TUCNEA, and I've got copies of everybody wants to have it.

Yes, we would like copies of those.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And then before we get ahead of ourselves, I would like for you both to state your names and your neighbors or and if you are, what's your proximity to the lodge?

Uh my name is Wesley Colotta.

I'm at 7135 East 14th Street.

I am approximately uh 250 feet from the pavilion area of the Moose Lodge, which is directly north of my property.

Okay, you sir.

I'm Richard Maddox.

I also live at 7135 East 14th Street.

All right.

Why don't you go ahead and give us testimony and explain some of the things that are in your document and why you think the permit should not be renewed?

I'll get uh I made a prepared statement so can I so you've not read the document even though we sub we sent it to you three months ago?

Sir, I've looked through the document.

I'm just asking a question.

Okay, the other board members have not.

Okay, and we would like for you to give testimony today on the issues that you've had with the location.

This is a public hearing.

And if you're wishing to remonstrate against the out the location, then you need to tell us why you think the permit should be denied.

Would you like to hear my words?

Is that a question?

Would you like my waiting to hear from you?

Well, for seven years we've been dealing with um noise, noise, noise, and people drinking at 11 30 at night.

I'm being woken up out of my bed, and all day Sunday, all day Sunday, it's like deer creek across the way from my house.

I can feel the vibrations of the music through the back of my sofa.

That's not conducive to a neighborhood.

That's conducive to a concert hall.

If I if I set up shop next to you like that, would that be okay?

250 feet from your home.

Well, if the zoning is the zoning's correct according to everybody, because we're within how many feet is it so with um with the way the zoning done?

The way I understand is that with Indiana law that um 500 feet from the building it is if there's like 75% or more of residential area, then it won't be approved or can't have a uh an alcohol permit.

But it the the building itself is sitting on you know an acre and a half, so there's no residential buildings to you know say that you you can't, you know, go against it.

Um but the this is the this is this is the overview.

Since January 2019, there have been 115 IMPD runs for mostly noise complaints, checking the premises and various disturbances, and sometimes evolving weapons.

There are still nine overdue citations since tw September 2024 that need to be resolved at the zoning department.

They are still active, by the way.

I can only imagine what other agencies the fire, the Department of Health have been utilized to deal with issues of the Moose Lodge where resources are already stretched so thin.

Regardless of who actually owns or even handles the day-to-day operations of the business now, they still have to account for the damage that's been inflicted by a negligent business management and ownership.

Previous management has already admitted that they do not monitor anyone who leases the premises, including the pavilion.

They are in violation of multiple Marion County and Indiana state laws.

I work from home and I want to have peace when I'm on and not on the clock.

I think that I think that is what any reasonable homeowner or citizen wants.

Wouldn't that be something that you would want?

The Moose Lodge has not made any strides to encourage community involvement, nor does those in charge have the moral character to know full well what's going on and purposefully and willingly chooses to disregard how their activities will influence the community in which they reside.

The local board has worked with IMPD on multiple locations, for example, the moon bar and grill and taps and dolls to revoke the permit where it deems there's enough evidence to support such a disposition.

I have VM vehemently opposed the renewal of the permit for the Moose Lodge and urged that you deny such.

Okay.

Um you mentioned enough evidence in the two cases that you that you brought up.

Moon Bar and Taps and Dolls, I believe.

So you're right.

They came in here, they had violation reports.

We had IMPD documentation of the things that had gone wrong, they've been penalized for that.

We read those reports and we made a decision as a board.

You boys have no violation reports that have been brought in front of this board.

I mean, but they've they've they've used the prop the property improperly with their zoning violations.

But this is the alcoholic beverage commission, not the board of zoning.

So I can turn everybody loose in my front yard and serve them liquor all day long.

I mean that'd be consequences.

And well, but I mean this is why we're here.

So all hours of the night and all hours of the morning.

We've sent you guys videos.

I mean, I have video I have video that was part of the link that's in uh the the uh packet that I gave you that shows the videos of the noise that is at you know seven o'clock, one o'clock, eleven um 11 30 at night, 1 30 at night.

I've got I mean they're they're a nuisance, and they're they have they have ruined my quiet enjoyment, which I am entitled to under Indian law.

So if the zoning was correct, and then you guys move in there next to it.

I mean, it's an unfortunate situation.

I don't doubt that.

Well, if it brought head legs, he went and bumped his ass, too.

I mean, seriously, come on.

How how long have you how long have you resided at that address?

Since February of 2018.

2018.

And they've been there much longer than that.

So when you moved in, you knew the moose was no, I did not know.

Well, you have a response it's not the alcoholic beverages commission's responsibility to find out if you looked into who your neighbors were going to be.

No, but you do have a responsibility to tax paying citizens to protect us from the the outcomes of all the liquor and the unsupervised people that have been allowed to use that facility.

They walk in there with a violation, this board will handle it.

Have you called excise or um any time that you made any complaints against the moose?

Well, we called 911.

Have you called excis to complain about it?

I mean, we've contacted the city um on two on one.

And these are and on your list of runs, these are the dates where they've they've come out when you've called.

Well, those are all the runs that happened, regardless of what type of call it is.

This is all the calls that happened there.

I mean, how many but any time you called it would have been included in this okay.

Where's your neighborhood association?

There is no neighborhood association.

It's you have a neighborhood group, a bunch of a group of neighbors.

Is this you two?

It's E.

Well, nobody's come knocking on my door with the welcome wagon in eight years, so I guess we are the only right?

So to Mr.

Lester's point, um I told me you've got particularly yeah, particularly with the moon bar.

Um, not only did we have a packet of information presented to us by IMPD, they had excise violations, and they also had a slew of letters from their local community.

Um so at this point, we don't have anything to go off of uh from a legal standpoint to deny this application.

Um it sounds like the building is closed, so they are no longer quiet and join that.

Yeah, they're they're no longer operating.

Um, but if somebody does come along and is operating there again in a similar fashion, then that's something to offer Junior.

So we're gonna try to unilaterally subvert us by selling the property to someone else and transferring the liquor license.

No, it's not about subverting you.

And I also I wasn't never moving, so you're never every month.

Well, I didn't interrupt you, I didn't interrupt you, sir, so I would really appreciate it if you didn't interrupt me.

So back to the point I was making.

If there are other violations, because this business, as far as we know, is no longer operating.

So we we don't have anything to go off of.

If another business opens up in your community and you have these issues again, contact XIS and also get your neighbors to come alongside you in your efforts, and you will probably be a lot more fruitful that way.

At this point, we do not have anything else to go off of to deny this application.

Well, if you're this where we're at at this point, if the business is no longer operating, then why are you going to approve an application for a business and no longer operating?

Because we don't have a reason to deny it.

Not a leak, we don't have a legal reason to deny their application.

Okay, then I'll just go see a lawyer and we'll see about a reason then.

Okay, well, you can do as you wish.

This is this is a violation of the case.

This is nonsense.

I'm advising all of you.

Okay.

That's where you're at.

Just when I look at the don't ask them more questions, they're gonna do what they're gonna do.

When I look at the there are two calls for loud music in 2025, and they were on the same date.

Well, a dog is good on it, chain.

You think I haven't already went to the police captain?

I sold him his house.

I went to the police captain and Mr.

Leeho.

But my point is if it's a constant problem, you only called on one one day and well, that was that was in 2025.

There's been a many other times in previous years where it's been way worse.

The only reason why it's gotten better is because they're not having a like to see the ring video of all the days.

Yeah, it seems like it's yeah, if they're not having events there anymore.

This year, this year but a dog is good on a chain.

If I put a dog on a chain, it's pretty much a good one.

Real quick, real quick, calm down.

I'm getting fired up, and it's based on the way you're communicating.

Well, I'm being disrespected here.

I don't think I don't appreciate it.

Well, tell I don't, I'm I'm getting to yeah, we're on the same page with each other.

Here's what I'll tell you.

The board does not have the ab ability to make a denial when there's no violation.

You've done your homework.

Does this board have the authority to take this license if we wanted to right now?

You've been board don't have the they don't have the don't have nothing but a rubber stamp from where I've seen what I've seen legally.

Well, let me know.

You know how it's a rubber stand, that's all you guys do.

Okay, let me tell you where you're wrong.

This board makes a recommendation to the state of Indiana.

So does not rubber stamping.

Well, but the we gave you that three months ago and suddenly we're reviewing it today.

I'm ready to do that.

I'm ready to have three postponements.

You were ready before I even walked in the door.

I wanted to give you a chance, boys, but that this hasn't gone well.

Yeah, I'm gonna take a vote.

I'll make a motion make a motion to approve.

Second, second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Then our business is concluded here.

Thank you very much.

Sorry about that break any of you, but it's called passion.

Try getting some of it.

Have a backbone.

Oh yeah.

Oh, I ain't got what are you doing?

Let him leave.

Did you have a question?

Yes.

What is it?

I'm here for 108.

Yeah, and Miss Barber had emailed me and asked for a continuance, so you'll you'll you'll have one more continuance granted to February.

If you're not ready to go in February, you'll need to file a withdrawal form.

Okay.

I emailed her this morning.

Okay, thank you.

Calling RR 4905850.

Doing business at Silk Show Club address 3512 Madison Avenue.

So calling RC4918199, Garfield Post Realty Corp doing business as American Legion Post 88.

Great.

1446 Olive Avenue.

Olive Street.

Sir, what's your name?

Richard Means.

What's your relationship to the business?

I am commander of the post.

Do you know why you're here?

I honestly do not.

I'm assuming it's from the tax.

We got behind on taxes and we paid it.

We didn't miss.

I guess we had a had a hearing December.

I did not know.

Thank you.

All right, let's get into this here.

Retail to retail alcohol sales refilling employee permits.

Can I go into yours?

Yeah, already.

All right.

Well, where do you buy your alcohol?

Okay, yes, we have our vendors.

You have your vendors.

We do.

Got Monarch.

Um for the others.

Where are you familiar with what happened?

I yes not you bring it up, yes.

Um we had a bartender.

Well, I had a couple that was volunteering at the post.

And instead of going through us, they were apparently going and getting stuff from the liquor store.

Um they're no longer with us.

So and after this, I made it a point to tell her when you cannot, no matter how well we, you know, we're gonna run out.

If we got the money, if we don't have the money, we're gonna just run out.

So I made it known that we don't do that.

So that was the issue.

They hadn't run out of the liquor that was there at the site and then ran out to go buy some.

Yeah, and they done it a few times.

It looks like there were three different receipts found.

Yeah.

Um, but you understand and you've educated the bartenders that that they can't do that when it's out.

It's out.

You have to go through a wholesaler.

Let's see when your last violation last time had a violation.

And while she looks that up, how frequently were you all or how frequently are you now getting your wholesale delivery?

We are is it okay if I this is my fiance.

She also helps with the orders.

Yeah, bring her up here.

Can she come up and help me out?

We have a now we have a bar manager, and she helps out as well.

She knows what what's in stock, and um we've got a lot of the there's a lot more freedom now on the orders as far as my instead of if we run out, we run out, but a lot of our stuff's caught up where that shouldn't be an issue, hasn't been an issue.

Um so we order from Southern Glacier about once a month for the spirits, then the beer distributors, it's about every two weeks.

Then you're clear that if you're out, you're up as you said.

You can't this is just internal controls to me, is what I'm hearing.

I mean, I don't believe I guess it's malicious.

You knew what you're doing.

Well, but yeah, fact is they knew not to do that.

So that's where that's what our challenge is.

They knew not to, they still did it, and the internal controls wasn't really catching anybody from doing it.

So tell us how how that what changes.

What's what's gonna change from this violation moving forward to make sure we don't find ourselves in this position again?

Those people are no longer putting it.

Those people are no longer putting and then all the I guess anything anytime anything gets ordered, it is there's been an inventory list and it gets submitted to the finance officer.

The finance officer and then they order.

Okay.

So it before, I'm sorry, before I I didn't know how to go about ordering the stuff, you know, work full time and but whatever, no excuse, but they would just order order.

Assuming it was handled, right?

After when exercise could come in and it it floored me, I had no clue.

Um like I said, they're they're no longer with us now.

We got the we have a bar manager and she helps in as well.

Everything goes through our finance officer.

He makes sure, you know, he makes sure a the money's there.

The order doesn't go in, he puts the order in.

He gets a wish list, then he'll check out the finances and he orders.

Well, there's your internal control.

And that's that's how it that's how previously though, someone who was at the bar and said we're light on this, they've just made after after that incident, our old finance officer.

I I made it so that every every order goes through him, the finance officer.

Finance officer's changed, but it's still a finance officer's responsibility to to put the orders in.

You know what I mean?

Everyone knows it is not okay to bring a bottle of anything in there.

You know, we sell water.

Yeah, a bottle of anything.

How long's the club been there?

Oh Jesus.

Well, it's close to about a hundred years.

Yeah.

Okay.

Their last violation was 2004.

Wow.

Okay.

And I thought it was it's taxing.

No.

Okay.

With that, I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck, guys.

All right, thank you.

Calling RH4922077.

Circle Block Hotel LLC doing business as Conrad 50 West Washington Street.

Anyone here for the Conrad?

Calling RR4912302 Corps of Indiana Enterprises Inc.

doing business as Rock Lobster address 820 Broad Ripple Avenue.

Here's a rock lobster.

Calling DL492514 KJ Petroleum Inc.

doing business's BS Food BS Food Mart.

Address 38TN North German Church Road.

Show them continue.

Calling DL491 4298 liquor cabinet number five LLC doing business's liquor cabinet address 30 32 West 16th Street.

Can we get your name and relationship to the business?

Ray Van Verir.

Uh Ray Vandevere, owner.

All right, Ray, do you know why you're here?

Uh failure to post signs.

Uh believe there was a uh we had some cigarette pricing that was below cost also.

We had a few things going on.

Smoking signs, that was part of it.

Um do you have an employee without an employee permit?

I just I don't think we had it there, the copy, but I I'm sure he had valid permit and was I'm sure you guys were given a copy of it if if you need it.

So yeah, so you were missing copies of all your employee permits in your training records.

Have you have you fixed that?

Yes, yes.

You had them, you just didn't have them there.

Correct.

Is that just I mean they were all renewed, all done, everybody had one.

Uh apparently the copies that were there nobody could find uh on it.

I mean, each employee can actually pull them up on their their own website for their payroll, also have you are resolved where them being able to be easily located.

Yes, yes.

Okay, so what was the resolution?

Well, they're we just now keep copies at the store in a file also where they can be ex accessed by yes.

Now the smoking of the signage like the no smoking, unfortunately.

We had a window break and somebody didn't put them back up and but you had people smoking in there too.

Uh I was not aware of that one.

I was a uh oh there was that smoking in the entry, right?

Yes, yes, yeah.

That's that's been addressed.

Hopefully, you know, you can't be there every day, but hopefully that's was that employees or uh I believe that was an employee.

Yeah.

From the door.

How many locations do you have?

Uh we have five.

Are they all in Marion County?

Yes.

Have you had violations on those other permits?

Uh it's been years maybe on it.

Uh and then you had something that was on the prohibit was not on the commodities list.

We're selling cookies.

I that could very well be that somebody brought in cookies.

I mean it's free Olay has cookies on there.

What was it?

I mean it's it just says the premise was selling a variety of cookies, which is not on your commodities list for a package store.

So uh as a question, so cookies are not if you get them from free light, it's not on the list.

No cookies.

Okay.

Well, we'll make sure that's out of there too if that's the case then.

And if you need a commodities list on what you're allowed to sell, um, because it's very specific.

Right.

Uh you can get that from the ATC's website.

I'm just curious about the pricing.

How are you selling for less than so they're say there's a price increase, and maybe they missed a pack or two when they changed them in the computer.

I'm I'm guessing that's what happened.

I mean, I don't want to sell anything below cost, you know.

So thank you.

It looks like there were two different types or two different brands that were below cost.

Unique violations.

What's what's your day-to-day with the business?

What do you do?

I I'm there every every day.

Um I'm around, I get phone calls, I'm still there, I'm still working, you know, 40-50 hours a week.

I've got two supervisors, too, that's over the stores too.

Just something that fell through the cracks, not having the signs up.

I mean, they know to but that's part of their job to keep an eye on, make sure everything's there.

Yeah.

But you have a manager that's responsible at each store for the day today.

Yes.

Yeah.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most to approve.

Motion to approve.

Is there a second?

I'll second.

There's a second.

Uh all those in favor say aye.

Thank you.

Calling RR4918922, Jenny B L L C doing business as OB's pub, address 2102 North Midhoffer Road.

OB's Pub We're gonna be here forever.

Okay.

Uh calling RR 4930194, MCO Inc.

doing business as MCO Inc.

Address 64 66 East 82nd Street.

There are two reports for this one.

Oh, you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

Yes.

Okay.

What's your name, sir?

Sorry about that.

Go ahead.

Joel Burke.

I'm one of two owners.

One of two owners?

Yes.

All right.

Do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why?

We have a violation with I believe it's our poll tabs and with uh keeping receipts for um tabs that had walked out.

There's a little bit more.

We'll read that.

Is there more?

I'm not aware of the other.

Operating uh with an expired alcohol permit.

Oh will the sign that you had displayed was inspired.

Yeah.

Expired business permit, display permit, and then the house rules for the gaming.

Okay.

How long have you had your license?

Uh that one we've had since 2013.

How many violations do you have?

Uh outside of these.

I believe this is our second time here.

You know what the first one was for?

Yes, we had in former employee that had served somebody without carting.

It also appears that the kitchen was locked up and inaccessible and you weren't serving any food.

Yes.

That was something that was addressed because they had made that decision on that day without our knowledge.

Yeah.

When you say they our kitchen staff uh decided that they were slow, so they wanted to close, so we addressed that and found new kitchen staff.

Okay.

As far as the credit sales go, tell me what the rules are on that.

So we have recently updated our equipment.

Um we weren't able to capture uh credit cards.

We had to keep them uh to start a tab in the previous one, and then if that card was denied or something like that, what we'd do is we'd wrap the receipt around it and they couldn't get it back unless they were they uh paid it to get it back later.

Uh now we are able to capture the card, hand it back to them, so no matter what, that card goes through that day and everything's done and complete on that shift in that day.

Um so kitchens open now.

Yes.

That's been fixed.

Yes.

The credit sales has been fixed.

Yes.

Pull tab game rules are up and posted.

Yeah, the credit thing, it reads as if this was a common practice.

Just so I'm clear.

Are you saying if if you come in and say, hey, I want to run a tab, somebody would give you a card, but you couldn't run that card at that moment.

Well, okay, so we could to close out the tab, but to like continue to order drinks consistently like throughout the day, we we would just have to start it by name, and then when they came to close out now, if they left that day and we tried to run their card and it didn't go through, then we would have their card and their name on it and wrapped.

So yes, it was it was practiced that way.

I was not aware that we could not collect the sales from that on another day.

And once we found that out, we ended that practice.

Makes sense the customer leading.

And then your alcohol permit was current, but you had the expired one posted.

So that's been corrected.

So we've got the current what we went back and it was on a different stack, and we didn't realize that it'd come in to exchange it for our frame picture.

All right, it's management, I'd say.

Just clean it up.

I mean, some of this stuff's not the worst we've seen, but it does seem like there's uh enough of them here that's yeah, they were something's not happening that needs to be happening, and it's your responsibility to make sure it happens.

Yes, sir.

All right.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

We make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, second second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye, good luck, sir.

All right, thank you very much.

Calling DL4930308 Lakes Ventures LLC doing business as Gresh Time Farmers Market 2342 West 86 Street.

Fresh time, yeah.

It is fresh.

Okay.

The typo.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I don't see it.

Lisa McKinney with Bose McKinney Nevins representing Lake Ventures LLC.

I'm Mike Foster, I'm the store director.

So we're here to oh sorry.

So we're here today on a SAC violation.

We're an employee, um, as you can see from the report, um, uh circumvented and put in a fake birth date.

Uh crazy.

Um, but did do it, went across every uh violated the law and the rules from fresh time.

How did you catch them?

I mean, was it an excise officer came out?

Excise officer came out.

I thought maybe it's intern.

No, it's a compliance check.

Yeah, compliance chest, sorry.

Um, and then um Mike is um new, um, came in and I think you said October, November.

Um, as completely, I'll let you tell them some of the changes you've made to the store.

I've done this for 45 years, so I was semi-retired and fresh time.

I had opened up multiple stores.

I was director, store manager training for the company.

They approached me when I come out of retirement and take over this gigs.

I said, okay.

I gave them a two-year commitment, but it's just structurally, they just there's no ground rules or there's nobody stays in their lane.

So on this particular situation, um, when that happens, you'll they will be retrained and they will also be given a final warning the second time they're gone.

Um, there better not be a second time because I personally stay up front regularly.

I watch and observe, and I have everybody the law says 40.

I prefer everybody get carded.

I'm 70, I don't have a problem getting carded.

I actually kind of laugh about it, but I get it, and nobody really seems to matter with that kind of thing.

So that's what we're doing now.

Um it is fixed, and we do go through training every year, but I know personally now I'm actually up there involved, even though they've been through the training.

I'm there watching and seeing that it's actually occurring.

And they don't go on the floor unless they've been trained.

That's correct.

Correct.

So he's taken a full um taking it very um seriously and completely working with all the employees at this store to get things right.

All right.

Any thoughts from corporate about um installing the scanners as opposed to having the cashier manually check the IDs?

You know that that's above me with Meyer, because Meyer actually owns us.

Oh okay.

And I so I I don't know.

Uh they probably have more communication with the legal team than they do with someone like me as a store director.

Um as far as the training part goes, when I was training the stores, we just followed the policies.

I I don't like to read between the lines.

There's no gray area, it's written, that's what it is.

Did they did the employee sign something?

Is there some sort of correct?

He's no longer with the company, but he did sign something, and the manager's no longer with the company.

Not for that reason, just for other reasons.

But yes, I I actually have it on file and I actually read a statement.

He acknowledged that he did it.

Okay.

But did they do the employees have are they given something to sign that says I understand if I serve a minor, these are the repercussions?

It's electronic, yes.

Okay.

Well, I'm hearing what I want to hear.

There has to be an adult in the room.

Right.

Somebody's got to be in charge.

Uh any further questions from the board?

Yeah.

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR 493102, Lincoln Irvington.

LLC doing business as Lincoln Square Pancake House, 5648 East Washington Street.

Anyways, everywhere.

Yes.

Calling RR4934949, Bin Bars Inc.

doing business as the pub Indianapolis, 30 East Georgia Street, Suite A.

Killing McGreg.

Oh gosh, Mr.

Hansen.

Oh, he was just here.

Yeah, he was here with come back.

Yeah.

I'll come back.

Yeah.

Calling RR493 6984, Bat Dance Delhi, LLC, doing business as Fat Dance Delhi 5410 North College Avenue.

Good afternoon.

Good morning.

How are you guys?

Do well.

What's your name, sir?

My name's Dan Durma, the owner.

You're the real Dan.

Oh, my darn.

Uh why are you here, Dan?

Uh convoluted.

Just the short story is there is a violation.

Uh the permit expired for this particular location on the 19th of August.

And uh it was not renewed at that point through the boards, and I believe XIS came in, and I'm not sure exactly how it all happened.

There's a story behind everything, but um so the company had a permit and expired, and you just you just missed the date.

No, I I actually I have five locations, five restaurants, and uh I a lot of juggling, right?

You know, difficult.

And but I I this the application was completed electronically through the system back in April.

Everything went through.

Uh the we'd submitted all the documentation, the tax clearances, the C wise, everything was submitted.

There's some mis failed communication, I guess, uh between the processor, uh processor is requesting new things or uh additional documentation.

Well, it did an updated CY, which we've I've been with since 2009.

I've never ever had that question, never had that issue before.

Asked question, resubmitted, submitted no one, still nothing.

The back resubmitted the tax clearances.

There was on a PDF with one of my other restaurants.

Um four days later, the processor responded after we submitted, resubmitted them, and said his response was can you separate the PDFs and send them back to me, which uh to me laugh a lot in my third grader can do that.

I said they're both there just printing them off as a PDF, one for you know, I mean so it's there's some contention there.

I'm not sure what happened.

Then the we thought we were good, everything was there.

Uh I followed up.

I I didn't bring the email thread and train change with me today, but followed up.

Uh no responses, no responses.

Came to October, or well, came to August.

So the play desired.

My mom had very sick, ended up passing right in that time.

Uh we thought the license was should have been at the board, was good, should have been renewed and no violations.

Um that didn't happen.

I r had to resubmit another extension, an additional extension, got that submitted.

Then that so then it wasn't again until October that somebody responded the processor, uh Salzar responded uh after we please advise what's going on, what's going on?

Um asked for the same material again.

So we already submitted this.

This is the third time we've submitted it.

And this was to Kurt Smith, uh, now at this point, who came took over, I guess because Salazar was on vacation or something.

In any case, there was a was a lot of up and downs, miscommunication.

I ended up talking with Marin, uh, manager down over there for the processors, um, or Maria, uh, mayor.

And uh she agreed, understood.

We had to file another application, the extension, which never should have.

Uh had to never should have gotten this far.

None of this should have happened, it should have been approved a long time ago.

I so honestly, I I'm not sure quite what happened.

You need to prepare it, pal, or somebody to help you.

I mean, your processor did you know favors, but the permit didn't get done.

It does sound like you're on it.

I like I said, I I was on it was filed in April, you know.

I mean, the typical time frame.

I what about uh the requirement for the a copy of the insurance is a fairly new law.

So that's something you've been when you've been in business for a long time that's new to all the owners.

Um so that was one issue.

The fact that the business permit had been expired, but then there was an issue also with the employees permit um and the manager's questionnaire not being filed.

Chad Cochran, yes, who I didn't I do not have his the paperwork.

I I can search it up in an email, but that was all he completed completed all that, paid his dues, rectified all that, my understanding.

I think he's been expired a couple of years.

His has he he had been expired since 2022.

Um but do you have you have he's shown you documentation that he's current now?

Yes, yes, and he's still your manager at that location.

Yes.

At that location, yes.

The employee permits often do you check them?

They're checked.

Well, every new employees and they're all they're monthly, they're set up in a we have a spreadsheet in our drive, and so they're all held in the city.

But this particular manager, who's who who's that that's I'll take that ownership.

That's my blood.

I don't take that ownership.

I I did not follow up and check on that.

That is 100% my fault.

Yeah.

I mean, they you know it's a problem if the person that's supposed to be checking the manager that's supposed to be doing all the documentation and checking is not taking care of himself.

Just too loose.

Yeah, it's just too loose.

The processor, and this, you know, like she said, persons in charge is still not doing it themselves, so just tighten up.

I am sorry.

We're working on my very hardest to.

Have you had violations at your other locations?

I've had one other violation.

It was at the car location.

It was actually there was one since 2009, there's been this would be the third that uh this what we're here for today.

There is an employee that drank beer at the car location, they were terminated.

We have policies and everything in place.

People sign, terminated no uh you know uh and then the same thing happened at this particular restaurant several years back, and that that person was terminated.

So I don't remember him real heavy being in here.

Yeah.

Um so you have a manager at each of your locations.

Yes, ma'am.

Have you submitted manager's questionnaires for each of those managers?

Because I'm not seeing one in here yet for him.

For Chad Cochrane.

Yeah, the manager's agreement or questionnaire.

I I will I did not submit one myself.

Okay, so you so that's something that you would submit because you have as the owner have to sign it.

Check okay.

Okay, so make yourself a note that you need to you need to get managers questionnaires completed for each manager at each of your locations and submitted for each of your locations because XIS will come back and we'll check and you have that done.

First thing done today.

Okay.

All right.

With that, I'll accept the motion.

I'm leaning toward a one year.

We'll take a one year.

Yeah, just based off of the type of violation and the frequency of it.

Um, but yeah, okay.

That is my thought.

So motion for a one-year renewal.

Is there a second?

Second.

Motion and a second for one year renewal.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Sir, what this does, it gives you 12 months to clean up this paperwork aspect of the business.

Yes, sir.

All right.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Please make sure you get those managers' questioners.

Yes, sir.

Thank you very much.

Calling RR4938992 in the Supermart Inc.

address 2040 East Washington Street.

This one still has the pending revocation.

Okay.

Calling RH4930252.

Garnett Hospitality Inc.

doing business as fusion.

Grill and bar address 2930 Waterfront Parkway West Drive.

Oh we heard them last time.

Nope.

Anyone here for that location?

Show it continue.

Calling DL493-3124 Saraga North LLC doing business at Saraga International Grocery, 8448 Center Run Drive.

Anyone here for Saraga?

Oh my goodness.

Calling RR4990796 Midwest T G I F Inc.

Doing business as TGI Fridays.

Address 3502 E 86th Street.

Morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Clark, you know why you're here?

Clark Kirkman with Clark Quinlaw on behalf of Midwest TGF.

And I talked with Officer Sunier before the hearing today.

This location had a uh SAC violation in April of 24.

Um the location's actually closed.

It closed in October of 25.

Um, and the the business is actually the process of getting a transfer on file and then selling the permit.

Um so we're just here to the there's no plans for it to close.

I mean to reopen.

Um there's no one here to there's no one local to represent the business.

That's why I'm here by myself.

Um but we're just asking for a renewal so we can move forward with the company will then sell it to someone else or the unaffiliated third party.

Correct, absolutely.

This was a sack by or a compliance check, no other circumstances check.

All right.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye, aye.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Well, a lot of people we have a lot of people left.

Ma'am, why are you here?

Me?

Yes.

Um I found a notification that said I I don't think I had to be here, but that it might be hooved me to be here.

Did you have any violations?

No, sir.

Do you have a you're over in a without violation, so you do not need to be here, and we will vote on your renewal here shortly.

It's part of the automatic renewal, so you have a great month.

Oh, thank you so much.

Why are you here?

TNT Enterprise LC and Department.

Here's our situation.

On the summer side of the tax protest, you prefer that on Friday.

They went to get it clearance this morning.

Or the new companies that are open yet.

So we have everything else.

We'll have the clearance probably in by Wednesday or Thursday.

It's been on your docket for the last four months, I guess.

Oh sure.

Um it's all everything's been submitted.

You're just waiting.

The tax clearance, yes.

And we can you want we can treat it like the other one where I'll hold it, not set it until I get to the okay.

Sorry, you two could come forward.

So we'll we'll run this and we'll have a vote, but you won't do anything with it until you get the paperwork.

But you need to see you again next month.

Okay.

All right.

Are you two?

Do you understand where we're at with all this?

There's a document we have to have for this to be official, but we'll go ahead and hear the case and as soon as you get that documentation, then the excise officer will run it through the process.

If we don't, then she won't.

I'm gonna take Greg's word for it.

But yes.

Were you sworn in?

No, they were not.

Okay.

We'll have you raise your right hand.

Do each of you solemnly swear or for not or let me start over.

Each of you solemnly swear or affirm under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application, or any answer you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, old truth and nothing but the truth.

Yes.

What are your names and relationship to the business?

My name is Takara Harper.

I'm the owner.

Gays not really relationship to the business.

No, it's the board.

Okay.

Greg Gender with Bradford and Riley there.

Going over to location at the northeast corner of Lafayette Road and 56th Street.

There's a gas station.

Yeah.

This will be a barbecue restaurant.

Yep.

Okay, I know where you're at.

All right.

Um is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes.

All right.

Uh I have questions.

Give me a read.

Sure.

All right.

We ask all first-time petitioners this list of questions.

Ask answer loud enough that we can hear you on the uh the microphones.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Prepare myself.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answer in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

No.

No, no.

Who's the other owner?

Tania.

Where is she today?

Working.

Was she listed on the application?

Yes.

Okay.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

No.

This says yes in the application.

Do you have a bar area?

Oh, yeah.

By the way.

Yes.

So there is limited separation?

Yeah.

All right.

Do you have a policy on checking IDs?

Yes.

Anyone who need anyone who's asking for an alcoholic beverage IDs need to be checked.

What happens if one of your employees does not check and does serve a minor?

Automatic termination.

What's the capacity of your space?

How many people can fit?

Uh believe.

I think it's about 60, 70.

Yeah, it's probably not a real big space.

Yeah, it's not that big.

And then what hours of operation will you have?

11 a.m.

to 9 p.m.

Okay.

So you is it gonna be primarily food focused?

Yes.

A bar, food focused, family restaurant.

Okay.

What's your relationship to Carlos?

He's my father.

So you're purchasing it from him?

Yes.

Did you work for him at the other location?

Yes.

So you're purchasing this license from your father?

Yes.

And how long did he have the license?

About maybe nine, ten years.

How many violations did he have?

Do you know?

I do not know.

What was the name of the place?

Harper.

Harper's Bar and Grill.

So on Guy and Road and 56th Street.

He had one in 2024.

Before that, too, I believe, before I was involved with him.

Yes, okay.

Just see if she happened to be there.

What was your role at Harper's?

Um, I would just collect money at the door from time to time whenever the help was needed.

So you weren't managing or anything like that.

Um looks like it was for employee for employee records and employee permits.

So you understand that everyone that serves alcohol at your location has to have an employee permit.

Yes.

And has to have a server training certificate, go through the training.

They have to keep those originals on them when they're working, and you have to keep copies of those somewhere that's accessible if X ice comes in and ask for them.

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Our um alcohol transactions handle at the restaurant.

How do you anticipate them being handled?

Like if someone messes up or just period.

No, when someone wants to order uh an alcoholic beverage, how did I do that?

Ask some ask them for their ID.

When you come to someone's table, if they come up to the counter.

I come to the counter.

So they have to come up to the bar to order.

You won't say alcohol orders from the table.

No.

Okay.

If they're in the family dining area, they still have to come to the bar to get alcohol.

Um, it will really just depend, honestly.

I haven't right now I have it said to them coming up to the counter.

So place your orders and you would do table service once you get the order and there's a bar they exited.

Yes.

So you come in, you place your order at a counter.

No, they'll have menus to look at, but as far as alcohol, they'll come to the counter.

So we have waiters and waitresses.

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

We can talk about this a little bit more when we do that when I do the inspection.

Okay.

Make sure we're all on the same page.

Thank you.

If you have questions, that's the time to ask.

She has all the answers.

Okay.

When do you plan to open?

Um March or April.

Okay.

All right.

Well, we need a good barbecue spot up there, so look forward to having you.

All right.

Any further questions?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

All second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh let's uh still have some time.

Who?

Joel with them bars.

Yeah.

Violation.

Yeah.

No violation.

Okay.

Calling RR four nine three four nine four nine.

Ben bars inc.

Doing business as the pub Indianapolis.

30 East Georgia Street Suite.

This is your business too.

Yes.

Okay.

Well, we know who you are.

Why are you here?

I believe it's for the same thing.

It was the credit card tabs that we have rectified with a new system there also.

Yeah.

And food sales.

And you have an employee that was acting without a permit at this location.

Yes, I thought that was on the last one.

Yeah.

Yeah, examination examination of permit by employer display, employee acting without a permit, credit card sales prohibited, and then house rules.

So yeah.

And the house, the house rules, we did.

We had just bought a sign, put it up, but I guess they didn't have all the rules on the house rules.

There's missing a couple.

So we had to get a new sign that had Where'd you get the signs?

Uh from our distributor.

From the from the police have distributor.

I guess it was missing one or two that they said wasn't up to date, and so it was just an adjustment because we were like, we just got it.

So kind of the same issues that were going on at the other location were going on at this location.

All of it's been rectified.

Yes.

Um play permits are good.

Yeah.

Even better track of those.

Yes, we had them in a file in a in a file thing.

We moved it to a three-ring binder that is accessible from behind the bar.

So when asked for it, it's just instead of looking for it.

Okay, because you'd have a you'd you'd received a violation for that in 2023 for the same thing.

Yeah.

But if exercise came in today.

It's in a three-ring binder right behind the bar on a shelf.

Be current.

Everybody would be current.

Everybody would have their permits with them.

All the signage is posted.

I can get whatever food.

Yes.

I want to order.

All right.

With that offset a motion.

So um I'm leaning toward one year just because there was like two cases ago where I pointed out because of the frequency of fat dance was the other case I'm referring to.

The frequency by which the type of violations were happening.

It just illustrates like a management issue.

I'm not going to do that, but that it had I known that these two were together, you're very, very close on that.

Understandable.

Yeah.

So I'll make a motion to approve, but when it's an offered at caveat.

There's a motion to approve.

And a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, let's go in the very back.

We have two back here.

Who are you and why are you here?

Um my name is anyone.

Okay.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Uh my name is Haredi Valdez, and I'm here because we finally got out of location for up and do license.

Uh this was uh an escrow.

Um uh license.

And uh I didn't even know if we was she was supposed to be in if it's the name.

This is the permit number.

Okay, the wow, that's a good question.

Uh the uh the public isn't just honey already a it's what I'm sorry.

The pumping's in the honey.

It's in her name.

A R the other one.

I ready by this.

No, the permit's in her name.

I see.

Yeah, so have you filed the paperwork for the transfer of location?

Um yeah, we filed a couple for that for location.

Oh, what i so it's in escrow.

Was it location pending or were you just constru waiting for the case?

Right.

So we finally found a location and all that.

So I think we have a hearing for February.

Oh, so it's in February.

But but there was uh an extension hearing.

Oh a renewal.

A renewal for it.

So you had to renew it.

So if it you're an escrow and it's just being renewed today, you did not need to be here today because there are no violations against it.

But we will see you apparently we will see you next month for the transfer.

I I thought so too.

I had uh well, but my assistant actually you know uh option to say she talked to the process and uh she was supposed to be in the yeah, just I don't because I don't have you on the list of violations.

So it's a renewal without especially if it's an escrow.

Okay.

So yeah, so next time just email me and check with me.

You do have an essay, right?

My assistant told me, so you know who to play, right?

Don't look at me again.

Okay, yeah.

So we'll see you next week.

Apparently, thank you.

Now, sir, right here, but sir, do you have uh you're with him?

Okay, I think that should take care of it.

Trying to make sure that we probably missed the uh yeah, we called him earlier.

Oh, this is you all running up burger hub.

He's on the new applications, so we need to recall that one A and G partner.

Oh yeah.

Third from the bottom.

You see that Peter of here.

Oh, okay, cool.

Um, four three one two two ANG Partners LLC, do one business's burger hubs address 5450 East Fall Creek Parkway Drive, suite 105.

And I will be just throw you both in go ahead and raise your right hands for me.

Raise your right hand.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Okay, all right, sir.

Who are you?

Uh my name is uh Emmanuel Government.

I'm uh the owner of the burger hubs.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yeah.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Oh, someone else.

Who was that?

Uh Mr.

Sachs.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

No.

You didn't see it after he Oh, I saw everything.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Were you were you truthful?

Yeah.

Okay.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

You want to put any new information in there?

No.

Okay.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes, I am.

Okay.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yeah, I suppose I am.

Uh do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry out privileges?

Can people leave with beer?

No.

Okay.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Do you have a bar only?

Like a bar area?

Yeah, bar area.

Okay.

Does that match?

Uh yeah, I think it does.

Yeah.

Uh we do we do have uh a bar day already.

Yeah.

They do show limited separation.

All right.

What what's your policy for checking IDs?

Uh yeah, before we start, we have to check.

So everybody?

Anybody.

What uh what are your hours of operation?

How when are you open?

11 to 9.

Uh seven days a week.

Um for now, six days a week.

Monday to Saturday.

Okay.

And what is the capacity of your space?

Surround 50 people, I believe.

Okay.

What what's uh what's what's special about this burger place?

We're just sailing burgers and salad, you know, just food.

Okay.

So this would be food focused on the colour.

Yeah, food focused focus.

Yeah.

Um, how many servers will you have?

Right now we are only two in the front and then two in the back in the kitchen.

Okay.

Um you understand they have to have an employee permit in order to serve.

Yeah, for now, I only have uh a permit for thermostat, but uh you know.

I notice your first liquor license.

Is this your first restaurant?

This is my first first one, yeah.

Okay.

And you know how you have to order the alcohol.

You can't just go to the store.

No, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

With that, uh, I'll accept the motion.

Most to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

All right.

All right.

Thank you.

Goodbye.

All right.

Any further business?

Uh the automatic renewals.

Okay.

Thanks.

All right.

So I'll make a motion to approve the automatic renewals.

Is there a second?

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Is there any further business for this board today?

Hearing none seeing none, I make a motion to adjourn.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

Those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Meeting is over.