Good morning.

Today is Monday, February 2nd.

This hearing of the local alcoholic beverage board of Marion County is now in session.

My name is Tyler Graves, and I serve as the President of the Board.

Today we will hear cases in Speedway, Beach Grove, Lawrence.

I guess we won't.

They don't have any stuff on the agenda, but and then the rest of Marion County, Indianapolis.

Let me see who we have with us.

Representing the city of Lawrence, Mr.

Jim Hennigan.

Representing the City of Indianapolis to my immediate right is Mr.

Peter Luster.

Appointed by the Indianapolis City County Council.

To my immediate left is Ebony Chappelle.

And serving as secretary of this board is Excise Officer Amy Sunier.

This meeting is being broadcast live on Channel 16.

It'll be rebroadcast in the uh several times in the coming weeks.

You are on television and the board requests that you act accordingly.

At this time, please silence your cell phone so you do not interrupt the hearing.

If you find it necessary to take a call or to have a conversation with someone here with you, please be respectful of others and step out into the hallway.

Here's the order in which we will conduct business this morning.

We will first ask individuals who have come to remonstrate to stand and come forward to the microphones hanging from the ceiling.

Give us your name and the name and address of the business you're here to remonstrate against.

We will then hear cases on today's docket pertaining to the town's speedway, City of Beach Grove, and the City of Lawrence.

Next, we will call all applicants for new or transfer applications on today's docket.

We will then call renewals on today's docket which have violations or remonstrators.

After we finish today's published docket, we will consider the cases that have been continued from a previous hearing.

All of those coming before the board today, whether you're an applicant representing the applicant, or are here to remonstrate, will testify under oath.

Officer Sunier will now administer the oath.

If you're going to testify before this board, please raise your right hand.

Do each of you solemnly swear or from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you have given on your application are any answer you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Just barely got that one in the door.

Okay.

If an applicant should have remonstrators, it has been the practice of this board to accept one request for continuance from both the applicant and the remonstrator.

Should the board deem it appropriate, additional continuances may be granted.

Are there any remonstrators in the hearing room?

Good morning.

Chris Dobb uh remonstrating against Rajuru Inc.

3801 East New York Street.

It's a renewal without violation, so I will send them a notice to appear and continue it to March.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Any other remonstrators in the room.

Fantastic.

Applicants appearing in Marion County are required to have four items before the board can hear your case.

We cannot, we will not hear your case if you do not have these four items.

So please listen closely.

The first, the affidavit of compliance of posting the permit advertising sign from the ATC for at least 10 days prior to the meeting hearing.

The second, the affidavit of compliance or notice sent to the property owners and neighborhood organizations that you sent written notice to about today's hearing.

The third, the zoning affidavit obtained from the Department of Metropolitan Development, and fourth, the Marion County tax clearance form from the Indiana Department of Revenue.

In addition to those required documents, if you are a new or transfer application, you are required to have a final inspection approved prior to your permit being made active.

I will give you my contact information when we call you forward and hear your application.

It is your responsibility to contact me.

I will not contact you to schedule that inspection.

Okay, with that, let's start with the city of Lawrence.

Alrighty, we have a new application is RR 4943192.

Blue Lagoon LLC operating as the Blue Lagoon LLC Lagoon at 11705 Pendleton Pike.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Do you have your application, sir?

Yes, sir.

Go ahead and bring that up to the officer.

Good morning.

Yeah, I just I need the additional documents.

Not this, yes.

All right, I'll take that.

Yes.

How's the bar restaurant that uh DMO and Wallace on everybody put together over there?

Uh do you have the approval from Z?

Um I sent in uh trying to remember the original uh form was down on the 16th, and we communicated via email it was submitted with the umarized stamp via email.

Okay.

They would submit it for no, they don't submit it, they submit it back to you.

You have to bring it to the board.

So we need that approval before we can hear your application.

Do you want us to give you some time to see if you can get that approval?

If you can email it to you, if it's been emailed to you, you can email it to me.

Okay.

Um they're actually in this building now.

Yeah, no, they're not going to be able to do that.

Yeah, if you want to run over there and see if you can get if it's done, how long ago did you submit it to them?

Um the original was on a 16.

And our last communication was probably 20 seconds.

Okay.

So uh we'll give this back to you.

Um give you some time.

Do you want to run down there and see if you can get it from them?

Okay.

Any problem with Jim's gone.

It's do you do you how long will it be?

I do have to be somewhere, but yeah, 11 like you.

Yeah.

Um we'll give you an hour.

Sure.

You shouldn't need that long to think that.

That's fine.

That's fine.

Okay.

Otherwise, we'll have to continue you.

No, we'll try to get him in.

So he's the board appointment for the city of Lawrence.

Oh, okay.

And if he's done, then he's usually leaves.

So we'll give you an hour and see if we can if not, hit you next month.

Okay.

All right.

Perfect.

All right, great.

Okay, we have another new one.

It is uh RR4943254, Hunter's N D L L C operating as Hunter's Pub at 8150 penalty.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Do you have anything at somebody back there?

I was looking at my uh representative.

Which one?

Greg.

You guys can have a seat.

Thanks.

Good morning, Greg Gendrick with Bradford Riley with me as he looked young, who's the owner of your NDLC.

Second license.

Okay.

Okay, uh what would this right now?

This property has got a vacant car lot on a car wash on it.

What's your what's your uh the uh the plan on the uh car lot is to uh demolish and then build a uh new uh plaza there with a uh restaurant in it uh called Hunter's Pub.

It's uh sports bar.

We uh she operates another one up in uh Lafayette called Hunter's Pub.

It's on her V U and L L Cause I know the City of Lawrence was worried there's a food truck sitting there now.

We're just making sure it wasn't for the food truck.

No, I saw the free truck okay.

Well temporary, they're just leasing five.

I know the I know the uh billing office is our built the building construction office has not seen any plans for you to build anything on there or tear it down.

Have you submitted any of them?

Uh as of yet, no, we're in the process of uh getting the plans together on that reason currently.

Okay, my question to you should we grant a permission for a license if the building's not yes?

So what will happen is it will go into escrow and then um once the building is complete and ready to open, then I've got and do the inspection.

Okay, so well yeah, I got no problem with approving.

I want to make sure it's not gonna, you know.

So tell us a little bit more about the is it going to be 21 and over only?

Is it going to be family dining?

It's gonna be family dining with the uh the population and the demographics in that area.

Uh I would venture to say it's probably gonna be mostly over 21, but there will be uh under 21 allowed her current bar up in Lafayette's only over 21.

That would be good.

It'd be nice to get rid of that I swear that's there.

I'd be appreciated you want to build there.

That's she owns the property, so it's that's it's been there forever, yeah.

It's yeah.

How long have you had your license in Lafayette?

Uh two years.

Two years.

And how many violations do you have?

Zero.

Zero.

What is your policy for checking IDs?

Uh anyone under 40.

What happens if one of your employees does not check an ID and does serve a minor?

Uh it's not happened, but they would uh be uh written up and probably suspended further printing investigation, go through the investigation.

Is it have you do you have a written policy?

Yeah, it's in the employee handbook.

It is wonderful.

How I'm sorry, I might have missed the bet.

What's what capacity are you expecting?

How large of a restaurant?

Um probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 160.

So decent size, but not too overlay, bearing seven days a week, seven days a week.

Uh what are the hours?

Uh be from 11 to 10, probably Monday, Sunday through Thursday, and like probably midnight on weekends.

Do you have a time frame?

Because I know the city's gonna ask me when do you think you'll be tearing this down in the building?

Uh within the next 18 months.

18 months, okay.

So they can expect some paper some information coming from you people.

Yeah, okay.

Because they're gonna ask.

All righty.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Motion, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries, good luck.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Glad to see you doing something with the property.

Oh my gosh, you all right.

Okay, we have a transfer, which is RR4943234, L Phoenix, Texas, Mexican LLC, operating as L Phoenix, Texas Nex Right.

10,000 six two five Penalton Pike.

Good morning, Jeff Rakeen.

I have with me Mariano Acosta.

Um this is a transfer of ownership.

It was formerly VW's three's along Penaland Pike in the Walmart shopping center.

Uh Mr.

Acosta's got two locations currently open in Marion County.

He's held those permits uh for as long as nine years, and has had some other locations uh at various times.

Uh never had a violation in in all that time.

Uh do you want to tell just a little bit about uh what the concept's gonna be?

Mexican restaurant Tex Mex?

I uh normally think I'm uh five minute restaurant.

What's the capacity?

How many people?

I'm thinking like around a couple hundred.

Yeah, but that's a big one.

Yeah, it's a pretty good size.

Yeah, so you've had your license for nine years, no violations.

No, why?

Because I take care of it.

Follow the law.

Tell them what your carding policy is.

Yeah, they have to check ID all the time.

What happens if they don't?

Uh never happened, but uh I have to fire them because I want to have a building.

Right.

So that's good.

What are your hours of operation going to be?

I'm thinking at 11 a.m.

to midnight.

Are you going to go 21 and over only after a certain time?

Uh all no, all I'm gonna add much family focus family and food focused.

Uh so we're not switching to a nightclub at a certain time.

No, right now.

Not right now.

No.

Is there you considering that?

Um it could be okay, maybe later, but not right now.

We've had a yeah, we've got a lot of issues with place.

That's why I'm asking.

You know, it was just okay with it later to midnight, so I don't need to.

No, we'll just share with you.

We've had problems with people who have a restaurant, they come in here and ask for the restaurant permit, and then late at night, they move all the tables away and it turns into even sometimes an underage club.

We just can't have it.

No, so that question of uh for us the clarity on whether this will be or won't be turning into a nightclub.

It does matter at this point.

So could you with that information?

Not gonna do it.

All right, okay.

That's a better answer.

Uh I'm thinking something on Caraoke, but it's uh before midnight.

And I would go as far as to say you could almost do anything as long as you as the owner make sure your employees know the process, the rules and what your expectations are.

You can put karaoke easy.

Okay.

If you're gonna have a separate bar area for 21 and over, correct?

Uh it's a big bar area.

Right, yeah, I'm opening, yeah.

That's another one.

I'm good to see something go in it, yeah.

That's good.

Yeah, they're actually uh looking open probably five to six months sometime this summer.

That's cool.

They got build out that has to be done.

Yeah, so they've got all they went to the city engineer's office and they've got all that, they're starting to that paperwork.

Have you started the process?

Have you s just started the bill before?

Yeah.

Okay.

All righty.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

We have one here.

Thank you.

We have a renewal is uh DL 4934021.

Gas Garage Inc.

operating as Gas Garage Inc.

at 4601 Shayland Avenue.

It's a renewal without violation.

Without violations, I'll make a motion to approve.

Uh second that all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Okay, now we have renewal violation RR 4936 592 8501 Pendleton Pike Club Inc.

Operating as the Harem House at 8501 Pendleton Pike.

This one is still pending before the commission, so it will be continued once again.

All right.

All right, so that takes care of City of Lawrence, except for the Blue Lagoon.

Yeah, we'll say so.

We're moving on to the rest of Indianapolis.

Calling R R 494 2810, Restaurante Guatemalteco doing business as restaurante Guatemalteco address 3737 East Washington Street sweet.

Anyone here for that application?

Let me see how many times they've been continued.

I feel like we can call them.

No, we're gonna call them.

This will be their second, so I'll show them continue.

Okay.

Calling RR494 2841, King's Bakery LLC, doing business as King's Bakery 10069 East Washington Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I'm waiting for my text made.

Okay, so you want us to hold off?

Okay calling RR494-3049, Laola Azula Restaurante, Merricos Estilo.

Wow.

Air at LLC address 2211 South Kentucky Avenue Sweet B.

Good morning.

Somebody came back.

Okay.

And you don't have the one document the posting.

Oh the sign?

Yeah.

But the sign was that.

So but I'm missing the second page of this one.

Yeah.

I got the copy key and bring the laser now.

Do you have you have a copy of it?

He got the reason I can he can bring it to me and I can probably email it to me the second page.

Okay.

Um the Delphin F and K and I'm the I just got I've got an extra day up here somewhere.

There we go.

Okay.

So we'll go ahead and yeah, well he we'll go ahead and hear him and then when we're done, have him fill that out, bring it back up to me.

He's speaking, there's some okay.

Good morning, sir.

Good morning.

What's your name and your relationship to the business?

Uh my name is Israel Garcia, and I'll all of them the owner of the uh Laola Sul.

Okay, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

No, sorry, it's like uh the second third one, the third one.

Uh the other two active?

Um no.

Nope, no.

Um well, how long did you have them?

Uh we have them for like uh uh I think like ten years.

Ten years, and how many violations did you have in those ten years?

No no violation why are they not active?

Because um I watched training my uh employees very well.

We sent to class and everything.

So this is what I that's when that people see them the bar and uh they make sure they always all the time ask for the ID.

No, um I'm asking why are they not active now?

Oh, because uh uh they was the spired uh front deck and everything, and I sell the business to other person.

Uh so the other business you owned you sold?

Yes.

So how many businesses do you currently own right now?

Uh two.

This one and another one?

Uh-huh.

Is the other one open?

Yes.

Where's that looking at?

Uh Scienceville.

Okay, what's the name of that one?

Asul Tikilan bar.

Have you had any violations on that one?

No.

What was the name of the ones that was here?

Laola Azul.

The uh L A O L A?

Okay.

Uh A C U L.

Are you asking about the previous ones?

Yeah.

The pre the previous business that you had here.

What was it called?

The previous one, the one you sold.

The one the one that should they used to be um asul to Kilan Bar number one.

Okay.

Okay.

And what is your policy for checking IDs?

All the time.

So all the time, what so we have to check uh ideas?

Wonderful.

What happens if one of your employees doesn't listen to you?

I separated to to them and uh I wanna uh fighting him right away.

Okay.

How big how many what's your capacity?

It's just ninety people.

Ninety.

Uh-huh.

What will your hours of operation be?

Uh 11 to 9.

Okay.

And then are you going to do limited separation, all family dining?

Yes.

Just family dining, no bar.

No, no bar.

Okay.

All right, with that.

Do we have any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Calling RC 493 0047 Down eat Home Association Inc., address 471 South Keystone.

They've requested a continuant.

That's interesting.

Calling RH493 0400 Delta Hotel in the LLC doing business as Homewood Two Suites Indianapolis downtown.

115 Pennsylvania.

They've requested a continuance.

Calling RH4930402.

Hotels of downtown Indy LLC doing business as Homewood Suites downtown.

Address 211 South Meridian Street.

Homewood Suites?

Calling RR4943210 Montgomery Restaurant LLC address 1060 North Capital Avenue Suite 2 through 101.

Hello.

Morning.

Good morning.

Greg is representing me.

Is Esteban Rosis, one of the owners of Montgomery Restaurant?

Uh Rosas.

Roses?

Rosas, yep.

Roses.

Mr.

Roses, is this your first alcoholic beverage license?

This is going to be my first.

Yep.

It is.

Okay.

Do you have the questions?

You want me to do it?

Yeah.

I got right.

Yeah, no.

Okay, so we've got a set list of questions we ask all first-time petitioners.

Just answer loud enough that we can pick it up on the microphones.

You got it.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Uh somebody prepared it for me.

Who was that?

Uh Mr.

Greg here next to me.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

That is correct.

Is there anything that you wish to add to this application?

I don't believe so.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Uh there'll be four other owners.

Did you list them?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

I do.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

They have a bar area.

No, yeah, there won't be a bar area.

No, it's like family dining.

So tell us, yeah, tell us what you're doing.

Yeah, so um I currently already have a restaurant in the historic uh Stutz building that's just uh right down the road from us, uh the taco shop.

And uh there was uh Barissa Parlor that was uh attendant in there as well.

Um they closed last year and the tenants there, Samara Road is the owners of the building.

They offered the space to us.

Um so we kind of considered it and we decided that we were gonna take it over.

Um so we're gonna be opening kind of like a I'm gonna say like a cafe in a sense.

Um so we'll have coffee program, craft sandwiches, uh we'll have a couple dinner services as well.

Um and with that we decided that we were gonna you know apply for a two-way license um since there's not a lot of uh other stuff there right now, currently, so we have Turner's bar next to my current location.

Um, but this is gonna be separate, so we wanted to have alcohol to offer for our guests and stuff like that.

So do you have a policy for checking IDs?

Yeah, so we're gonna be it's gonna be in the handbook, but basically every anybody that orders or purchases alcohol, you have to be carded.

So yeah.

Uh in that handbook, will it identify what happens if they don't check an ID and do serve a minor?

Yeah, it'll be clear that you know you have to, you know, chain these policies, and if you don't, then possible termination is gonna be uh option.

Wonderful.

Will this be in addition to the other location or are you closing that location?

No, well, yeah, it'll be in addition to, yeah.

Okay.

Yep.

Uh are all the same owners vote for both locations?

No, so I have one of the partners is uh business partners with me right now, us who own Julietta Taco Shop, and then there's we added two others into the into Montgomery's.

So how will management work?

Who's gonna be responsible for the day-to-day operations?

So I'll be kind of overlooking, I'll be stepping away from my current location and I'll be kind of stepping in to help train and do all that stuff with the second location until I feel that everybody's good.

Um and then at that point, one of my other business partners will be kind of taking day-to-day operations after that.

So one of the owners will be acting as the manager.

Yes, yeah, there'll be a manager in house at all times since we're already there, like be either between me or my current business partner, between somebody, so there's be a manager in house all the time.

Yeah.

What do you have plan on opening?

Um so right now we're working with uh general contractors.

We're hoping by spring.

Um right now we're kind of in the final processes of like getting all the permits and everything.

Well, all of the permits have already gotten pulled already.

So I'm hoping by spring, um, possibly sooner, but we'll see.

Yeah, we're we're right in the final stages.

The current location is basically staying as is.

We're just adding a kitchen to it.

So we took the space as is.

Um, yeah, so it's basically ready to go.

We're just adding a kitchen to it.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Post to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you guys, calling R R 494 32 32 Smoky Waters LLC, address 5130 West 38th Street.

Smoking water.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Thank you.

Clark Kirkman with Clark Quinn Law.

On behalf of Smoky Waters, um LLC with me are Myron and Shea Waters, who are the owners of Smoky Waters.

Uh huh.

This permit.

Yes.

This permit um was the Marion County 210 that was recently auctioned off.

So that's why we're you know getting in on the new applications section of the Marion County as for a 210.

Um it's on 38 West 38th Street, uh a little west of Lafayette Road in the old O'Charlie's um full service barbecue restaurant.

Um is this your first license?

Yeah.

Alright, you heard the questions, we'll run through them again.

Just answer loud enough we can pick it up on the microphone.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

No, Mr.

Kerb prepared it for us.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner?

No, no.

Both of them listed?

Yes.

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Is do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Bar 21 and over?

Yes.

Alright.

Wonderful.

Um what's the capacity of the space?

Probably 150.

150.

How many employees will you have?

Uh maximum twelve.

Okay.

Uh, do you have a policy on checking IDs?

We check all IDs.

Check all IDs?

Yes.

What happens if somebody serves a minor?

Termination.

Termination.

Um, you heard us say it earlier.

Any chance this place turns into a nightclub at night?

No.

No.

What time are you shutting down?

One, one p.m., eleven to one.

All right.

One AM.

1 AM.

I'm sorry, I'm I don't come in front of a court too often.

So tell us about the operations.

What's the plan?

Is it what kind of food are you going to have?

Is it food focused?

Is it alcohol focused?

It's food focused.

Okay, so tell us about your menu.

Um right now we have it's it's a barbecue menu, you know, your rib tips, turkey tips, uh brisket.

What's things of that nature?

We're looking at expanding the menu to sandwiches and pizza and fried chicken and things like that.

We're we're just starting to expand the menu.

So to sort of complement the bar.

So instead of just having barbecue, people can come and have all different types of food.

So this place is this open now?

It's open now.

Uh the bar area.

If it's open till one p 1 a.m.

Uh, what's the I guess what's the capacity of the bar area?

30.

I would say 40.

40 at the moment.

The entire space can be open until it's it's I mean they're they will not be, you know, turning over into you know, dance opening up a dance floor at night.

It's a neighborhood vibe type operation.

That's all gonna come from you guys, you know, top down if you guys manage it, won't any problems.

Yeah.

I was whispering to them about you know, pay attention to the violation process, and you don't want to be up here what for the renewals of violation.

It's really the only reason I show up in the violation for the rest of this board's member.

All right.

Uh with that, I'll accept a motion.

I'll show approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, fellas.

Thank you.

Thanks a lot.

All right.

Transfer.

Calling R R 494 3005 NOBA Lounge Inc.

doing business as NOBA lounge.

Address 5030 Southeastern Avenue.

Uh this one is going to be continued again.

Um they're still pending with the ATC.

Okay.

Calling R R 494 3008 S and E P L L C doing business as address 6331 Guilford Avenue.

Yeah, James Gyang.

Oh, um Jim, have you seen is your guy called Jim?

Don't do anything you can't do.

Morning, Greg Genrick with Bradford and Ryder with me is John Panster, who is the owner of S the EP L C, which is the landlord for the building at 6331 Guilford Avenue.

Okay.

And what are we doing?

He acquired the license from Buca.

It's basically screwing up for his tenant.

Oh, right.

Once the tenant comes in, the tenant will uh credit amazement agreement under John's license.

Got it.

So you don't have a tenant in place yet.

We do not.

Okay.

Do you have an idea of what you're looking for?

Are you looking for someone to open a restaurant, a bar, family restaurant?

Yep.

Um remind me and I should know, but if we grant them the license and he finds a tenant, does the tenant come back in front of us?

No.

Yeah, all right.

I mean it it they wouldn't be allowed to open until I approve the floor plan.

But yeah, we're how it runs is really all right.

So does that make sense to you?

Yep.

We don't have we don't have the opportunity to speak to who's going to actually operate that license, so then it's your license.

Um he does own other locations.

You do?

Yes.

How many other licenses do you have?

How long have you had it?

Um about three years.

How many violations do you have?

Uh currently one.

What was it for?

Umployee uh didn't have their permit.

What will you do with this license to make sure that doesn't happen?

Have policies on hand that we'll have to check all that stuff like we do now with the other.

How do you do that?

Um anybody who's working, we have to have a valid copy, photocopy of it on location.

How do you how do you kind of track when that's going to expire or do you have any process for that?

Yeah, we have well, we have a basically a ticker that if if you're up 60 days before you get up, you're noticed.

That's at the location, because you actively are involved in that location, correct?

With this one act acting as just the landlord, how will you ensure that the tenant is doing those things?

Because again, like like President Grace said, it's ultimately your permit your responsibility.

Correct.

We'll have to put in the operating agreement.

Um that those things have to be mandated.

Any chances that you're going to have someone come in and open a nightclub or uh a bar?

Are you you specifically know you're dealing you're looking for a family restaurant?

I mean it's a restaurant, but it'll have a bar.

I mean, there's there's two parts to it.

But would that be food but it'll be food focused?

Yes.

Okay.

But any chances of opening a nightclub in that location or anything like that.

No.

All right, with that, are we any further questions?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion approved.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling R R 494-3008, MAVA Nightclub Inc.

doing businesses.

Cheese was address 3890 Lafayette Road.

They're stuck in traffic.

Can we move it to the end of the agenda?

Sure.

Thank you.

Calling RR4943144 86 full bar restaurant LLC during businesses 864 bar address 3661 West 86.

Good morning.

You can give your application to the officer.

Okay.

All right.

Uh we'll start with who are you and what's your relationship to the business?

My name is Clarzita Clausen.

Clausen?

Yes.

Ms.

Clausen, who do you have with you?

This is my secretary.

Melin.

Okay.

Miss Clausen, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes, it is.

Alright, we'll ask you some questions.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone prepare it for you?

I did it.

Alright.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Of course.

Yes, I did.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes, I do.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Uh can people leave your establishment with alcohol?

No.

Okay.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Do you have a bar area that's 21 and over inside of your establishment?

Yes.

Yep.

Okay.

All right.

So tell us about full bar restaurant.

What type of what do we expect when we walk in there?

Well, wait till fully restaurant, Caribbean, Haitian food restaurant.

And then we expect security and follow the rules and regulations.

And we do we move on.

Anything that against the law practice that.

Wonderful.

So then the basis of that would be are you clear of all the rules and responsibilities that come with having this license?

I believe you'll follow it.

Sometimes we find people don't know.

Do you know the rules and responsibilities that come with this license?

Absolutely, yes.

Okay.

What was your name, ma'am?

I'm sorry.

Well in Vila.

Well, man.

And you're will you be acting as the manager of the location?

It could be, yes.

So you'll be running the day-to-day operations.

Okay.

Do you have an employee permit?

Employee permit, yes.

I have my background.

You have your employee permit.

And how often will you be there?

I'll be there all the time.

Every day?

Yes.

Okay.

What are the hours operation?

We're looking from 10 to 12 and Monday to end the week.

And sometime we can probably go to a car.

So you're showing you're applying for limited separation on your application.

So during the day you'll have a family dining area?

Absolutely, yes, because we have the separation exactly from the bar.

And then so far for the family separation, it's away from the bar.

Okay.

So then it at a certain time during the day, are you going to 21 and over only?

21 and over, yes.

What time?

I could say by nine.

Sometimes we focus most likely on food and everything.

So for you, we're starting international food.

So from 9 to 2 a.m.

you'll be a bar, 21 and over only.

21 and over.

Yes.

Do you plan on having live music, DJ?

What's the plan?

Uh sometime like you know.

Could be like you know, if somebody wants to say birthday party, or probably graduation, but maybe.

But we most likely focus more on food and international still on the movie at that during that late night time.

For the movements for the food?

Yes.

Okay.

So your kitchen, you know your kitchen has to be open until you absolutely, yes.

What would happen if one of your employees did serve a minor?

Oh termination.

Absolutely, yes.

Because we have to make sure they train for that in the class and absolutely yes.

We have should they check IDs and a certain time we have security as well.

You do have security?

Will they be checking IDs at the door?

Yes, absolutely.

Yes.

And then even when they come to the bar, we have to double check.

Okay.

That's good.

Um the law recently changed, so anyone that's checking IDs at the door also has to have an employee permit.

So make sure any of your doormen have employee permits as well.

Okay.

All right.

That with that, we'll accept a motion.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

And I'll give you my card so you can email me and see.

RR 494 3147 vertical bar group LLC doing businesses just winging it.

Address 7834 Michigan Road.

Okay.

Good morning.

Morning.

Go ahead and raise your right hand for me.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application are any answers you might get to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, all truth and nothing but the truth?

Yes, I do.

Okay.

What's your name, sir?

Jeffrey, Dr.

Jeffrey D.

McLam.

And your relationship to the business?

I'm a partner of vertical bar group.

Represent just winging it bar and grill.

Okay.

Is this your first alcohol beverage license?

Yes, it is.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Um our attorney.

What's his name?

Oh, Greg?

Okay, right from the uh did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application in truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

No, the other owner is Steve Locke.

Were they listed?

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

I do.

Are you applying for carry out privileges?

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Separation.

They don't have limited.

You have a bar?

Yeah, we have a bar.

Oh, you do?

Yeah, so right around the bar, yes.

You got a bigger one.

Yes.

All right.

Do you have a policy for checking IDs?

Oh, yes, we do.

What is it?

But our policies in place that um we check IDs when anyone is local Pacific age.

Um and then um if the staff does not comply, then it's a um violation.

We'll write them up the second time, then we'll uh fire them.

Okay.

Um what's the capacity?

Uh roughly about 94.

Really?

C 94.

Big wing in it.

Yeah.

And then hours of operation?

Operation varies.

Lunchtime is between we open up at 11 30.

We normally close um Monday through Monday from 11 30 to 10, and then Tuesday and Thursday we extend it um till about 1230.

Okay.

Will you be in there overseeing the day-to-day operations or will you have a manager in place?

I will be there.

I'm actually present.

Steve Locke is present.

We have a manager, Stacy is also present.

Okay, so all of you will be there every day.

Um, roughly about I do about four days a week, sometime five on busy days.

It's uh are you open and operating now?

Yes.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most to approve, motion to approve.

Second, second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Calling R R 494 3154 Burb Tzuka Hospitality Group, Indiana LLC, address 130 South Pennsylvania, suite one.

What is it?

I think it's a hotel.

Maybe we started at 9 30.

It's 10 14.

Good morning.

Morning.

Uh for the record, Alex Interrow and Coes McKinney and Evans.

I have Gavin Bush, he will be the general manager of this restaurant.

This will be their first permit in Indiana, so I don't know if you want to run through those.

I don't want to prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Someone prepared it for us.

Did you have a chance to review?

Well, and it was Alex.

It was Alex.

Do you have a chance to review the application after it's prepared?

I did.

We're all were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner.

It was.

Is there anything you wish to add to the application?

I do not.

Are you the only owner of the business?

I have not.

Did you list the other members?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between any between your premise and a church or school?

Yes.

Yes.

Do you understand an excise officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

I do.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

Are you applying?

Actually, yes.

Uh-huh.

Sorry.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Yes.

Alright.

Okay, so just to jump in.

This is going to be in the old Pure 48 space across from uh Game Bridge.

Oh, which I still call Conseco, but Gambridge.

Um looking to open in May of this year, so excited to have something back in there.

The concept's uh Doc Crow Southern Smokehouse and Raw Bar, as Gabman has on his vest here.

So Southern style cooking, still the seafood as well.

Um 288 is the capacity in there, so still the same space, but they're remodeling and doing some things.

Um they've got a location in Louisville that's been very successful, no issues down there, right on Whiskey Row.

No violations down there?

Nothing.

Nope.

So I'll let you gab and maybe fill in a little bit more about the concept and what you'll be doing in the space.

All yours.

Yeah, uh Southern side, like you said, Southern Sil Smoke House, Oyster Bar, um heavy whiskey expressions, which is super exciting to bring to Indiana.

Um just kind of replicating what we're doing down in Louisville.

So uh we do about $7 million in revenue down in Louisville now, and excited to bring that to downtown Indianapolis.

So uh looking to expand even out outside of Indiana and hopefully do three to four more locations in the next like five to ten years.

So wonderful.

Excited to do it.

But what's the layout inside like the experience?

Um so private dining in one room, and so like if you've ever been inside of Pier 48, they have that other room inside of there.

So we'll have a private dining room, we'll have a family area, and then a bar area, and then outside patio season when the weather permits, but obviously not during the dead of winter.

Yeah, so this is a corporation?

Yeah, well, it's family owned right now, but kind of expanding into the corporate model right now, so still family owned.

Trying to keep it as much niche family owned as we can.

So the uh checking IDs, tell us about the policy.

Checking IDs on anybody that sort of gets served alcohol.

What happens if somebody does get served and they're a minor?

And if they're a minor, they get terminated.

Yeah, all right.

And are are you from Indianapolis or you from Louisville?

I'm from Indiana.

Okay, so I'm from Fort Wayne.

Okay, so you understand that the rules and regulations are different here than they are in Kentucky.

100%.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

What are your hours of operation?

Uh 11 to 11.

11 a.m.

to 11 p.m.

Okay.

Do we have a motion?

Motion approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling R R 493 7060, Antihitos, Hondurinos, Hondurinos, Tia Bill McCork.

Address 5801 Rockville Road.

Oh, yeah.

Good morning.

Yeah, very excited to be here.

Greg Gendrick with Bradford with me.

Is Marco Sandoval?

The owner of the restaurant.

Is it local location?

Yeah, but over on English Avenue is now to Rockville Road.

Okay.

Um he is going to move to Rockville Road?

He already is there.

Oh, he already is?

Okay, we didn't have it listed as an.

Oh no, we do.

My bad.

Um so you've been in operation?

Yes, sir.

Um and this is your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

No.

How long how many do you have?

Just one that he's been operating there for about five years.

Oh, and he's just moving it.

Okay, well, how long have you had it?

Five years.

Five years?

How many violations do you have?

No.

What's your policy on checking IDs?

We asking people who's uh look under that 21.

And uh if we were looking for 30 years old, and we also asking for a ID.

So you ask everybody?

Yes, sir.

All right.

Uh would you fire an employee if they did serve a minor?

By the way.

Right away?

Yes.

All right.

Uh what's the capacity of your spot, your space?

120.

How many employees do you have?

Five.

Five.

What are the hours of operation?

From nine to nine, nine to nine.

Any chance this turns into a nightclub?

No.

No?

No.

I have one question.

I had emailed you about there's a question on the application that says have you ever been convicted of a misdemeanor or a felony?

You checked no.

I thought Nick could correct to that.

I apologize.

We did address that, but I will get you an updated copy.

Okay.

With the conviction.

Okay.

Yeah, we'll uh we'll need that.

So what I'll do is I will not set this for commission until I get that amended paperwork.

Yeah.

All right.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second, second.

Those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Calling R R 494 2249.

PNT3 Investment Corporation doing business as sincere.

Address 5299.

Well, I wouldn't know we move.

I do have I did the manager.

I don't have this on file yet, but this is the manager question.

Okay.

This is the original, so you need to keep that right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Thanks, Clark Kirkman, Clark Quinlaw on behalf of PNT 3, uh doing business as Sincere.

I have the owner Pam Moore and the manager for daughter Tamika Moore.

Pam and Tamika.

Okay.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

So we is.

Well, so we we um were here about a year ago on the transfer of ownership.

Oh so this is just transfer of location from a location pending status to the location.

So we've already okay.

We've already vetted you, I guess you'd say.

All right.

Um we'll update us.

Uh what is the policy for checking IDs?

Well, actually, we're we're gonna have this fancy um ID scanner.

There you go.

And right.

That not only does it detect fraud, um, it also will detect um uh their age and it stores information in case we need to go back and look.

Um do you have one of those and then there's a manager that controls that?

How does that work?

Well, we're actually gonna have a uh a double process system.

As they come into the door, come in, they're gonna be scanned.

Of course, we're gonna have more than one, but uh where they're seated and where they're wanting to order um to decide they want to order something to drink, then the server also will then ask for ID again, whether they're at the bar, whether at the seat, where it's gonna be a double process to ensure that we're not serving to anyone underage.

What is sincere?

If I go in there, what am I what's happening?

So sincere is um I'm the chef and manager, so um sincere, this is a new concept for me.

Um I currently have a business call since you're catering.

I've had it since 2019, and so I'm migrating into the restaurant world.

Um and I primarily primarily cater for uh corporate, um 90% corporate, 10% private.

Um this is my brunch and soul um concept.

Sincere brunch and soul house um is actually what the name is going to be.

We'll be open from 11 to 8 Wednesday through Sunday with one um extended hour day on Friday nights to 12 a.m.

Um and Sundays will be a gospel karaoke Cospel brunch type setup.

Um just to give you a little feedback about me.

I've worked with clubs and bars for 13 years.

I have no don't no desire to be a club or a bar.

This is a family-style restaurant um that happens to serve very good food and handcrafted cocktails.

Wonderful.

Uh I don't think it's gonna happen.

What happens if somebody does serve a minor?

Zero tolerance.

In fact, if they if they commit any violation in regards to ATC is zero tolerance.

To me, that's the strongest way to send a message.

But that's not gonna happen.

That's not I don't think it's gonna happen.

In my experience, it could happen.

So because I have a plan for it, right?

I have that plan for it.

When do you when do you plan to open?

My goal is to be open by February 28th.

Okay.

Um this address has had some issues in the past.

It has so just make sure you guys are food focused.

It's a restaurant, it's not gonna turn into some of the things that's been in its former life.

It is not.

And I am familiar with the people who used to own uh have the liquor licenses at that establishment.

I have once again, I have no desire to be any of that at all.

In fact, be one of the things I stand on is my brand.

And I really wanted to be downtown but couldn't find a suitable location without having to invest a ton of money because they didn't have hood systems and things like that.

So this I'm praying that this will be my first location, and then by that time I'll be able to secure a location downtown.

Um I have no desire to consort with that type of prowl.

The um when we're open till 12 a.m.

on Fridays, it will be 35 and up.

So any other time it's family kids can come.

Yes, we have legal separation.

Um I'm sorry, uh limited separation for that.

Um we are petitioned for carry out and catering.

Um and the catering is because I'm a caterer, um, so that we can do that off site.

My top account is Indiana University, Blooming Tina, Indianapolis, and they want me to have that because I'm doing the majority of their business anyway.

Yeah, it's wonderful.

We still have to get the catering application on file, but I'll get that done before the third Tuesday.

Okay.

All right.

Any further questions?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most of a motion to approve.

Second.

Second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good job.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks, everyone.

Should have just stopped talking.

Uh calling RR494037.

Relea Valdez doing business as Vila's Publito Mexican restaurant 3815 West Washington Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Yeah, I was doing it.

Okay.

Thank you.

Were you both this morning?

Were you here when we went for it?

Yes.

Yes, we will this morning.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Would you like to introduce your client?

Um, I'm Dennis Cosava.

Uh this is Arely Valdez.

Uh she is the sole owner of uh, she just got into position of the BS Pueblita restaurant.

Um these uh license was uh it escrows and uh we finally found the location of it uh so it's your license, it's just been an escrow?

Right so on the location to locate you, right?

What is the capacity of your location?

Night.

What okay?

And uh do you have limited separation?

Uh no.

No, no, is just a restaurant?

Yes.

How many employees will you have?

Uh probably is well right now we have four.

Okay, so you're open right now?

Yes, we are okay.

Okay.

All right.

Well, what is your policy for checking IDs?

Uh 40 and under.

40 and under?

What happens if one of your employees serves it?

Uh termination?

Is that part of a written policy?

Yes.

All right.

All right, you've heard us talk about restaurants and nightclubs.

On the record, is that nightclub?

No nightclub.

All right.

And did you say this is your first location?

Uh well we I have another restaurant in uh I have a license folder for seems to thousand fourteen.

In Indiana?

Yeah.

And and how many violations do you have on that?

None?

Okay.

Um just want to check something early.

You're the sole owner, correct?

Okay.

All right, I'm good.

All right.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck, ma'am.

Calling RR494 3207, the point two point oh LLC doing business as the point.

Address 3344 North Orleans.

This funds requested a continuance.

Calling RR 494 3242 Castleton Square Pavilion, LLC, doing business as outlaws steak, burgers, brews, address 5771 East 86 Street.

I used to be the okay.

It's outside them all.

Morning, Greg Gunrick with Bradford and Riley.

With me is Jim Shook, who's a building owner, and Blake Lilly, who is a tenant who operates outlaws stakes, burgers, and brews?

Yes.

Yes.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

It is for Mr.

Shuck, yes.

It is for you.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Just to answer.

Yes.

Uh so who did it?

Correct.

I'm gonna ask and you just answer back and we'll get there.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything you wish to add to the application?

No, sir.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

I own the property.

You own the property.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry out privileges?

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Yes.

Yes.

Okay.

Um all right.

Well, tell us about outlaws.

Um we have a location at HTC.

Um it's called out of stakes burger brewers.

This one's gonna be called outlaws roadhouse.

I don't know what HTC is.

Hamilton Town Center, sorry.

Sorry.

Yeah.

And just very similar menu, that kind of thing.

Um we card anybody that's under 40, and if you violate it, you get immediately terminated.

Great.

Um, what's the capacity of the space?

We're on 220.

220.

How many employees do you have?

How many do we have or how many will we have?

Will you have?

Probably around 48.

48.

All right.

In the license you have in Hamilton County.

Do you have any violations?

We had a violation two and a half years ago.

For what?

Uh serving a minor.

What'd you do?

Terminated.

Part of the policy.

Uh anybody have any questions?

So you're going to operate under a manager's agreement.

Correct?

That is correct, ma'am.

Okay.

And do you understand, sir, that the permits in your name?

So anything that happens in the restaurant, any violations that's received against the permit goes against your permit.

All right.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, guys.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Calling DL493 4375 P42 Inc.

doing business as liquor cabinet number two.

4201 post roll.

I'm surprised nobody's hit their head on this.

Down under there.

Good morning.

Again, Clark Kirkman of Clark Quinn Law on behalf of P42 Inc.

Um, you guys want to introduce yourselves?

My name is Farn Bersing, and it's my brother Gardner Viewers.

So this is a liquor store located at 42nd and Post Road.

It's a transfer of ownership.

Um they they've got two other um package store permits in Marion County that they've been operating um for a number of years, so this will just be adding to their um businesses.

How many violations do you have on the current license?

Uh one sorry.

You have one violation?

It's actually on the agenda for today.

Oh timing.

Well, uh what was it for?

I mean, we're gonna hear it, but we'll uh is the underage girl at the uh excise police officer, you know, 11 o'clock in the morning she came in.

She grabbed up can of uh Margarita and I'm playing check to her ID.

What's the policy?

Terminator, yep.

All right, and that's a written policy.

Yes, ma'am.

That's number one on the written policy.

You gotta check IDs.

How often are you there?

If you have a couple three of them, how often do you almost every day?

Every day.

Every day.

So you work there?

Yes, sir.

All of them.

Yeah.

Um anything different about this location than the other two?

Um, just the hours.

Usually all the other ones we uh we open at nine and close at 12 midnight.

This one is it's historically it's been running from eight to three.

So that'd be kind of uh just in the same hours.

We're gonna have same hours.

You're gonna keep this so you're gonna change the hours at this one?

No, we're gonna it's gonna be gonna keep it as it is and go from there.

Just do that.

Um will you keep the same employees?

No, sir.

We like to stock fresh, we like to be there ourselves, you know.

Try to you know get to know the community, you know, know the faces and whatnot.

So we have our own system, so we're we've been running for over eight years.

So we have you know adapted.

We have learned so much over the period.

So adapted according to like you know, every number uh employee agreements have been updated over time, and you're in training.

Uh we do the uh server training for every employee that we hire.

So spend like you know, personally, we watch the cameras and make sure that they're following the policies.

So that's just the two of you in this location.

Yes, it's just me, me and my brother.

Yep, your 50% partner each.

Okay, on the other locations, do you have we have uh another partner?

Yes.

Okay, is he related also or is no is what's what's his name?

Uh just like our cousins.

Okay.

And is that the only location that he owns?

Yep, those two the the one that we currently have the package stores.

Yeah, any further questions from the board?

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Okay, guys.

And for the record, should we hang out for the violation?

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

And then, sir, I need to Jim had to leave.

Oh, okay.

So the we need the Lawrence representation here to hear it.

And he had to go to work.

So I apologize, but you'll have to come back next month.

Can I just I did get the document from them?

Can I just verify quickly that's you can have to take a look while the other ones are walking up?

We're gonna move on to violations.

Wait, do you uh do we want to go back to Esther's King's Bakery here?

Hey sir.

Then we'll do that one.

That's what you'll need.

Yeah.

So we'll see you um March 2nd.

Calling R R 4942841 King's Bakery.

LLC doing business King Bakery.

10069, East Washington Street.

Go ahead and swear you both in.

Yeah, we need to swear.

Do you do each do each of you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answer you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes, ma'am.

What's your name, sir?

Uh my name is Goldini Augustin.

What was it?

Golden Augustine.

You have to talk louder.

You're gonna speak a little louder for us.

Yeah, Goldney Augustine.

Okay.

All right.

And this one's King's Bakery, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, King's Baker.

So is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

First, yes, sir.

Are you old enough to drink?

29?

This is like a young man holding up well.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Someone knows, dude.

And was that Esther?

Yes, sir.

All right.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes, we went over it.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes, sir.

Is there anything that you wish to add?

No, sir.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes, sir.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and church or school?

Yes, sir.

Did you do you understand the next ICE officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes, sir.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes, sir.

No?

No, I think are you applying for limited separation?

Do you have a bar area 21 and over?

No, no.

No.

All right.

So what's uh what is King's Bakery?

King's Bakery is currently a bakery where we um serve sweets.

And I've been a lot of customers lately been asking for food after they have a dessert or something.

So that's the reason we're trying to add uh a restaurant to it and alcohol beverages.

Okay, so you have the bakery on one side and serve his uh full kitchen.

Yeah, so if he wanna take a vanish with that instance, they are they always been asking for more food now.

How large is the space?

How many customers?

Uh it's two thousand no how many seats.

How many seats?

Um between 12 to 16.

Okay.

It's very small.

Okay.

You're gonna have to have at least 25 seats to qualify as a restaurant.

Do you have space?

I have I have space.

Is it 2085 square footage?

So I have enough space.

What's what's the fire fire marshal approved you for?

How many people?

Uh 20 25 to 30.

25.

So you do have fire marshal's approval too.

Okay.

No, um, how long have you owned the bakery?

Two years going on three.

Is that your only business?

Yeah, the only business.

That's your only business.

Are you the only owner?

I'm the only owner.

Who is Antonia?

Antonia is my mother.

Okay, and she owns a place, uh a couple businesses called Tanya's Market.

Correct.

Um, she had some have you been involved in her business?

No, sir.

I mean no, ma'am.

You you weren't working in her office?

I mean, I worked, I worked, yes, but not involved.

So were you an employee with her there?

Employee?

Yeah.

Yes.

So you did work there?

Yes.

Okay.

Um there was some trouble there at Tanya's market a couple years ago.

Correct?

Correct.

I've heard about it.

Huh?

Yes.

What happened happened there?

Uh I think she from what I've heard it she's was selling tobacco, I think, without a license, but she currently has a tobacco license now.

Is she also selling alcohol without a license?

She was, yes.

Uh-huh.

And you heard that or you personally have know about it because you're not going to be able to do it.

I've heard I've heard and know about it, and this is the reason why I'm trying to do it the correct way for myself.

I can uh something else.

Sure.

Um the mother came to me because they got a restaurant out of the Indianapolis, and I have them.

They went to the hearing and apparently she missed on this too.

I don't know what happened exactly, but she's selling alcohol without the the license and stuff.

And there was the night, obviously.

Uh and like I said, I can I can do nothing.

Okay.

So she misunderstood and was selling alcohol without a license, selling tobacco without a license.

And then also selling pharmaceuticals without a license.

She prescription medication, she's selling that in her market as well.

Yes.

Um, and then the day that officers entered the location of the market, she was not there, but she called you and had you come and let them in.

Yes, there was already in.

They were already in, but she wasn't there, so she called you and had you go there.

She yeah, how many go there, correct?

But you didn't really have any involvement in the business.

So why would she call you then?

Because she had nobody else there.

And it was uh a lot of offices there and she needed somebody to go there and talk to them.

Did were you using her office for for paperwork for your business as well?

Yeah, yeah, I had a yes.

Print like printing printed papers, stuff like that.

What it what is her involvement with the bakery?

She has no information in the bakery.

The bakery is all under my name.

It I it go ahead.

It's under your name, but yeah, no involvement.

I'm a hundred percent owner.

Yes.

On paper.

On paper, but what about the reality?

Like, is this really her place?

No, it's my place.

It's not her place.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I do everything, the bacon, the cooking, it's on me.

So if officers were to go in to your bakery, they would not find your mother.

You we would not find any documents for her businesses.

No, ma'am.

Nothing's being commingled.

Are you still working at the market?

No, I'm currently working at the bakery.

You're not helping your mother in any way anymore?

I I help her, but with paperwork, filing her taxes, but I most likely deal with the bakery.

How can you assure us that the things that were happening with your mother's market would not happen in your bakery?

That's the reason I'm taking legal action.

So I don't have to go through the same process that she went through.

I want to make sure everything is done the right and correct way.

Is she still bootlegging?

She's still selling illegal stuff.

No, she's not.

She she stopped from the day she got the offices went over there.

And she currently has a a license for tobacco, and she doesn't sell any of that stuff.

So she went back and got the legal documentation.

I mean here's what I'm saying.

I want to believe you.

I think you're doing a nice job.

But we're not a naive board.

Uh we've sat here a long time.

We see people send in ghosts, you know, and that somebody else is actually running it, but they send in someone here to get that license.

Um your mom had some challenging uh violations for this board.

I mean, selling alcohol, tobacco, all that without.

She didn't have a permit so they were criminal charges.

Criminal charges.

Yeah.

And then you add the pharmaceuticals to it, and you know, you got a real mess.

And so what we're trying to figure out is are you a part of that mess?

I'm not a part of it.

I don't want to stick you with your mom's, you know, um baggage for better lack of a term.

But we need to know that this is you, and she's not gonna muddy this up for you.

No, this is a hundred percent me.

I do everything, the cakes, the breakfast, everything is all me.

Okay.

So I don't I'm not trying to do what she did, so I don't have to go through the same process.

You have a better chance of being profitable if you don't have to pay all these violations, lose this license, have it yanked from me, everything that comes with it.

Um just share, do you let me ask you?

Do you think the next axe will come in and just double check?

Yeah, if they are allowed to.

Oh, yeah, they're allowed to.

You can't stop them.

I'm saying because of the situation at hand, I want to give you mom.

We know we know violators, we know violations and documents and who owns what.

Um, you know, they'll verify.

Yes, I will I want that to happen.

Good.

Um with that.

Do we have any other further questions from the board?

No.

No.

Okay.

Uh do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

There's a motion to approve, and uh, I'm gonna second that.

I'm gonna give you the I'm gonna second that.

Believe in and want you to do this the right way.

Uh so we have a motion and a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All right.

Um great discussion.

You know, you know where we stand, and now it's balls in your court.

And I and you know, you are going into this now with full knowledge.

So if there's a violation within this next year, don't expect to come back and say I didn't know.

Because we know you know.

I know.

All right.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

All right, uh, with that, I'm gonna before you move into violations.

I'm gonna have to hit the road here.

Okay.

But I appreciate you guys covering it.

See you next week.

Do you want to do the Maeva?

Yes.

The new one?

Yeah.

Before the break or after.

Uh we can get it done now.

And then take a break.

Okay.

Yeah.

Tyler, can I borrow your questions?

Yeah, yeah.

All right, calling uh going back to transfers, calling that one.

Okay, calling RR494308.

I've different Maeva Night Club Inc.

doing businesses.

Cheese busy six sixty-one West 86.

I'm sorry, 3890 West La Road.

Hi, good morning.

Thanks for watching.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Catch it online.

Okay.

And Mr.

Sworn and he needs to be sworn in here.

All right, go ahead and raise your right hand for me.

Do you do you speak English, sir?

Uh so is a okay.

Um, let me know if you don't understand what I'm saying to you, okay?

Raise your right hand.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes, yes.

So you understand your test, you're going to tell the truth, yes?

Yes.

Okay.

And this is Mr.

Hertalo's first permit in Indiana as well.

Okay.

Evan, you want to run through the question?

Yes.

Um, and just like Officer Sunier said if you don't understand something, um, just let us know.

Did you prepare this application yourself, or did someone else prepare it for you?

Well, you can give me a yes or no.

Yes.

Yes, okay.

And then who was it, your attorney Alex prepared it for you?

Alex, did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Okay, those eat?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in the application answer in a truthful manner?

Cool.

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

Kidding on the mediator, I'll go no.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yes.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

I'm Astay Docento.

Um you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant.

Yes.

Are you a pri are you applying for carry out privileges?

No.

No.

Okay.

Are you applying for a limited separation?

No.

All right.

Okay.

Um, so this is a transfer of ownership.

Um, cheese bus.

You may remember uh we were here on renewal of the permit in the spring for the current owner of the permit.

They had a minor loitering violation and we're on a one year renewal cycle, and so the board denied the renewal.

Uh the commission has granted our motion while that appeal is pending over the renewal to transfer the permit, which is why Mr.

DeFranco Hurtado is here today.

He has actually under Maeva been managing the premises at all cheesbus since July of last year without any issues.

Um we were here in January, but had a orange sign issue.

So but at that time it was I was able to talk to Captain Carter to see if IMPD had any issues and and they have not.

Um to be in there operating.

Um and then also I attached the corrective action plan that the current owner of Cheesebus number two has for the operations.

Mr.

Hurtado knows that all of those requirements in the corrective action plan will carry forward to his operation of El Chispas should this board uh vote to transfer the permit and the commission approved that.

Um they still use private security eclipse, they wand and check IDs at the door.

It's um a Friday, Saturday, sometimes Sundays, focusing on um concerts, um Latin music primarily, um no miners in the premises.

The something that Mr.

Hotado and I have talked quite a bit about, and he that has been implemented in the six months that he's been operating, is that servers bartenders inside know that they also have a responsibility to check IDs that they don't just rely on the people at the door, and that happens.

Um with that, we take any questions you may have.

Um any connection to the previous ownership?

No, no, it's it's an arm length transaction, Melchor Notaraban and El Chispas don't so not related, don't not friends.

No, they're they're friends, they're friends, and they've worked together.

There's another restaurant, Coco Bongo.

Uh-huh.

And so they are friends, they do know each other, but there's no family relation.

It is an arm's length transaction in the purchase agreement, and uh Melchor is not working at El Chispas, he won't have a management role.

It is this is not just paperwork where it's being placed in your name and they're going to continue to operate it.

Can you I want you to ask him that out?

Yeah, he established Orando.

Yeah.

He's the sole owner, he's the one that's gonna be operating it.

Okay.

Um, and so you're aware then of the previous issues.

Some uh most problems antes.

And you've how how long have you been operating it?

Since July, I think middle of July of 25.

We filed the manager's questionnaire and had that on file.

Yeah, okay.

There was a period where it was closed when we were working things out with the landlord and dealing with that and getting insurance in place and so forth.

How long was it closed?

Augustal.

Estaba Sarado and Augusto Masolinos, yeah, through August, maybe right in there.

Just we wanted to make sure that the security.

It's been closed since August.

No, no, no, no.

Just a brief period of time.

We filed the MQs and then we were working with the landlord to have Maeva sign on to the lease was the issue because we couldn't have the MQ.

So anyway, there was a brief period of time where they just didn't have any events.

Um it was August and then reopened and started having events again in September.

The uh the security contractors is or this is the same contractors as before.

Uh they're new.

Eclipse in pain side had just and they but they are a different contractor than the contractor that had the problems when we were here on the renewal.

That the if you'll recall there was a a young woman who came in with her mom's passport and her mom was with her.

So um that security company is gone.

Eclipse is the new and the reason that they police officers were speaking to her was because there'd been a shooting away, yeah, off premises, and then she was there and involved and said that she'd been drinking where Cheesebus they came back.

Yeah, off premises, and then she was there and involved and said that she'd been drinking where she space they came back.

They didn't find that they had sold her a drink, but she was definitely inside, so I believe this was a minor loitering, not a minor not serving a minor.

But they understand miners are not to be in there at all.

There's no separation.

Have you personally met with IMPD?

Oh no, no.

No, probably a good idea.

Okay.

Yeah, I think you should set up that meeting with Carter or Detective Maston or someone to sit down and make sure everyone's on the same page.

We will do that.

Anybody have any further questions?

Uh yeah, I think I'm good.

Um took a motion.

I make a motion to approve um all those in paper.

We got a second.

Oh, second.

I'll say I.

All right.

Um now we're in Lower.

Yeah, we can take the take a break.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Uh five minute break.

So missed them.

Uh I was I expect the L cell was trying to do directions for the party on the world personal take up the class may have been checked.

Yeah, they were just they were supposed to go first this morning.

Uh I know that's the second continuous are they still even recording or they have to be.

Yes, we divide over then when I think what we're doing.

Uh, you shouldn't get that.

We're gonna report this.

I am on the case.

Um I think it's really well.

All right, we are going to begin.

I'm gonna go back and call RR four nine four two eight one zero, restaurant restaurante, Guatemalteco, LLC doing business as restaurante Guatemalteco address thirty seven thirty-seven East Washington Street Suite.

Do you have their paperwork, Dustin?

This is Sandra Otru and her husband.

What's your name, sir?

I'm Henry.

Henry, what's your last name?

Doris.

Doris DeLeon.

Oh I mean more than four items that was also described to the insurance.

It's been updated with the name that I can use.

I just need one though.

Okay.

All right, I need to swear you both in.

Or swear all of you.

Well, you were here, weren't you?

Maybe swear you both in.

You both speak English?

Yeah, I do speak by Ma'am, do you speak English?

Hello.

Let me know if you don't understand something.

Raise your right hand.

Both of you.

Raise your right hand.

Do each of you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on the application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Yes.

Okay.

Is this your first permit?

Yes.

Do you want to do the question?

Sure.

All right.

Uh, did you all prepare this application yourself or did someone do it for you?

Okay.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in the application answer in a truthful manner?

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

Actually, if I may, um there was a misunderstanding of they would like a carry out and those words.

This is a restaurant permit with inside the grocery store, correct?

Yes.

Yeah, so you can't do carry out on that.

Okay.

All right.

Um, are you two the only owners of the business?

Yes.

Okay.

Is there at least two hundred feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Okay.

Do you understand?

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Like will you have a separate bar area away from the restaurant?

It'll just be okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Who who owns the grocery store?

Who owns the grocery store?

We are.

No.

No.

She's the only one.

Okay, pardon me.

Uh so she is the only owner for this.

Okay, so first you say no, you both own the grocery store.

Now you're saying just you ma'am, you own the grocery store.

Yeah, she's the only one on the worst store.

I'm not, yeah.

Then what's your role with with the business?

Well, I'm working there with you know, she's my wife, so I'm there too.

So you uh I'm working.

She helped me.

He's the lawyer.

Manager.

Do you you lease this building or you own this building?

No.

You rent it?

Yeah, right.

Whose name is on the lease?

Uh the name on the lease is my name.

Your name and then Abner Achella?

That's your brother in law.

That's your brother.

Yeah, he's my brother.

What's his role in this business?

He worked there.

Uh actually we make a mis uh it was misunderstanding when we uh uh got the lease for the building, and I don't know what his name was in the in the lease.

So I was trying to take him out because uh I don't know what happened, you know.

And uh but you know, his name is on the lease.

So in my name.

Okay.

Is it to be amended?

Are you are you too are you planning to take them all for the lease?

Yeah, yeah.

Well the lease was signed in 2019.

So there was a mistake when the lease was signed, but it's been since 2019.

And you've not fixed the lease.

The thing is that uh they changed ownership, you know, for the building, and then the older owner send the same paperwork to the new owners.

And then they they didn't say anything to me because I want to do it, you know, just take him out of the lease because uh but they didn't say anything, so that's the only issue.

The only reason is he's he's in the lease.

So this the well this lease expired June the one you signed in 2019 expired June 30th of 2025.

Did you sign a new lease in 2025?

Yeah, with the new owners.

With and with but with Abner's name on it still.

Yeah.

So you still didn't change it then either.

Yeah, um yeah, I did I didn't.

So you're on the lease, he's on the lease, she owns the business on paper.

Mm-hmm.

She's not on the lease.

No, she's not.

You've had someone on the lease you think should be removed for the past seven years.

He's still on the lease.

He also has criminal convictions and he does not qualify for an alcohol permit.

Okay.

So uh I your answers to our questions are not making any sense as far as ownership goes.

Do you own this business?

No, I'm not.

Uh the only thing I my name is on is on the lease.

But she owns the business.

I mean that on the paperwork, she is the owner.

I understand on the paperwork she's the owner.

I'm asking in actuality who owns this business.

Well, I'm not, you know, it's it's um only my name is only on the list, like I say, but and uh I work there with her, you know, I help her, you know, but she is the owner, and that's that's the only thing.

And uh I didn't know that uh he had uh something to do with the felonies or something like that.

Tell me tell me what you you say you work there, tell me what you do.

What are your responsibilities?

Uh I'm doing like uh my role is like a manager, you know, helping her with the people who work there, see if everything goes, you know.

Uh they doing the the job what they supposed to do.

That's that's my role there.

You're in charge of the people?

Yeah.

Every day.

Uh yeah.

Most most of the do you do you do hiring and firing?

Uh she's the one who does the hiring in and fighting and I uh I do the fighting as well if we I need to.

You do what, I'm sorry?

I'm I'm firing people if I need to, you know, because she's been telling me that I can do that.

But she's the one who does the hiring most of the time.

And then what do you do every day at the business?

Her?

Yeah.

Well, she does everything, you know.

Uh she does the the closing and nine, and uh he she goes to uh the paperwork that we need to do in there, so you know, do the uh uh take all the hours that people you know make every day the the payroll, you know, she make send it to the uh uh the counting, you know, who do all the the checks for the employees?

Well, what does Abner do there?

Yeah.

What does Abner do there?

Uh she works there as well, you know.

Uh she helped like uh in uh cashier and she have uh sometimes in the kitchen, and he does multiple stuff there.

Abner, whose name is on the lease is a cashier.

Yeah, he works there on the cashier and he worked in the restaurant as well.

Like uh the same I do, you know, I work every every how did how did this mistake happen where Abner Abner gets on this lease?

So it was a mistake.

How did that happen?

Uh actually we start as as partners, you know.

When we start, we we started as a partner, he was my partner where I mean she was a partner with her, and then when we signed the lease, uh she was still a partner with us, and that's why he is in the and uh and uh in the lease.

So that's that's that main so he was a partner, he was a part owner, and now he's no longer a part owner.

He's still on the lease, but now he's I know I know this is something that uh I didn't think that needs to be taken care of.

But this isn't something that just happened.

This this was seven years ago.

Um really much.

I think we'll have moved them as prioritized and it just got away from the thing.

Yeah, uh I talked to the uh new owners of the uh the building, and then I told them to I want to remove him, and they they they told me no.

That I don't need I don't need to move remove him.

Because I told him that he's not my partner anymore, and I told him that I don't want him on a lease, and they told me no.

Okay, so well the problem for us is that the owner, the applicant on the permit, the owner of the alcoholic beverage application or permit, has to have a valid lease.

She is not on the lease.

Not only that, the other person on the lease is automatically disqualified from being able to hold an alcohol permit.

Okay.

So I have any more questions?

No.

Um make a motion.

If not, I'll make one.

I'll make a motion to deny um for all the reasons that Officer Sunier offered.

Um I think that the business, the the paperwork just needs to be in order in order to move so uh move forward properly.

And right now, I just we're in an improper place to move forward with this.

Uh second that for the same reason.

Um I think it's more moral character.

I think it's uh it's described in the the denial.

Okay.

Um so it's been moved and seconded to deny all those in favor of the time.

I'm sorry.

So it's the denied three to zero today.

The application, your uh application will go go before the commission, state commission, they'll review the testimony from today on February 17th.

You'll be notified of their decision, and you will have the ability to appeal if you choose to do so.

Just okay, just change everything on the okay.

Thank you.

All right, um, okay, I gotta go there.

We can score that.

Calling R R for Night.

I'm going over the weekend square.

Oh, you're going back to that way.

Yeah, I'm gonna skip up one.

Oh, okay.

Uh calling RR 493 3102, Lincoln Irvington LLC doing business as Lincoln Square Pancake House, 5648 East Washington.

So I can find it.

You need sworn in.

Or what you you do need to.

I was sworn in.

You weren't sworn in, okay.

This is Peter Pasta, who is a director of operations for like a square pancake house.

Yeah.

Let us get to our violation report.

Okay.

Do you know why you're here, sir?

Yes.

Okay.

So the location had a violation.

What was the violation?

Uh we had a new employee that didn't follow policy.

I was immediately terminated.

There we go.

Uh can you walk us through what happened?

Yeah, she was as uh person came in, they ordered a mimosa.

Uh the our policy is a hundred percent card everybody.

She did not.

She provided the promotion and then violation occurred.

After that, we brought up our handbook, showed her where the policy is terminated.

We terminated her and the story.

We then just because that happened, we have 16 other licenses as you know in Indiana, because all 16.

We actually reiterated and read double our efforts to make sure everyone understands, every manager will understand how strict we are with that policy.

Uh we have no other violations, any other location.

All 16.

This first one, and uh we dealt with it and not happy about it, but it happened.

What happened with the employee permit?

Because this employees uh permit was also expired, and they did not have it on the she was a new employee, she was supposed to bring it in.

She shouldn't have been served.

She should have had the manager server.

Another reason she was fired, yeah.

She was she was doubly involved.

Yeah.

Yes.

She was just started like probably the day before.

She was putting your permit.

And we didn't know she had per table ordered it.

What happens in that policy?

When they get hired, they have about three or four days of bringing their permits.

Until that time, the manager who has a permit, valid permit, should be serving all those for them.

Um but she wouldn't didn't go to the manager.

Didn't follow policy at all.

Got it.

So now is there an internal policy within Lincoln Square to track employee permits a little better?

Oh, yeah, there's a very good permit.

There's actually a spreadsheet and a policy handbook.

We have followed on a spreadsheet every single store.

That's audited by me at every store.

Okay.

Yeah, at every store we cut every probably on a weekly basis.

I go check them, make sure everyone's on there, who's on it, who cancer, who can't serve.

Um we try not to hire anybody who can't.

We really don't our sales I mean, most of the sales are less than three percent.

Uh we very rarely sell them any uh very few, but we have it because there's a few customers that do like them.

But it's very m minimal by sales, but still we're seeing now.

That's why we added to all our stores.

Got it.

Um I don't have any more questions.

Uh is there a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Thank you.

There's a second.

I'll second.

Although the paper say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion passed.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR 490 5850, my Amy Inc.

doing business at Silk Show Club.

Address 3512 Madison Avenue.

This one is uh going to be continued for a pending violation.

Calling DL490 5028 DNN L L C doing business as DN Lickers.

Address 2702 Westmore Street.

Dere we go.

Um Alex Intermel with Bose McKinney and Evans, and I have Gary Tiplick, he's the owner of DN Lickers.

Um this is a violation.

There are two violations here.

One is signage, um, the tobacco signage specifically, the little stickers and whatnot that you have to have on the door.

What happened there is there was a a smash and grab actually at the store uh last spring, and when the door was replaced, the stickers didn't get put back up promptly.

And when excise came out um to take a look at things, they weren't there and they were cited.

The stickers were immediately put back on, and that was remedied, and that is all good.

Then there was also um an issue with the employee permit.

That was also remedied uh immediately.

Employee permits were updated, and Mr.

Tifflick checks every month, make sure that everyone has uh their employee permits and their training uh on hand, up to date, current at the store, and no one takes the floor, can start working until they have those permits uh in hand and ready to go.

So that was the change in policy.

What's this process for uh checking those permits?

Um what was it in the past and what what is it today?

Uh it was in the past uh with the safe serve that you had uh was it like uh uh time to get that along with your uh with your alcohol permit, but now I'm requiring that you have to have both before you start.

How many locations do you own?

Two um you have a manager at each location, or are you there?

I have a manager at each location, and I'm at each store every other day, roughly.

How many employees do you have?

For this location, at each location.

Um total like 15 okay.

So you have a policy in place now on checking the expiration dates, checking to make sure that you have both the employee permit and the cer and that certificate.

Correct.

Are both active?

And where you have a uh set location where those can be accessed, what if you're not there?

Yes, I have them on uh uh door to be posted.

And then is it your responsibility or the manager's responsibility now to check to keep on top of those to make sure they're not expired?

Both, but ultimately I'm responsible.

Okay.

How many employees you get?

Uh like 15.

And then uh how many viol how many violets do you have on your other business?

Violation.

Any?

I don't think so, T.

No surprise or anything in the past.

Nothing I can think of in the last eight, ten years.

How long have you had this permit?

Um 1998.

And this is your first violation here.

Um in the last eight, ten years, I don't think.

I couldn't specify a date.

Yeah.

I just have one more.

So the officer was responding to multiple complaints about underage service.

What is your policy for checking IDs?

Uh 40 and under.

40 and under.

So is there um like at the point of sale?

Are they scanning, or is it just up for the manager to just look at the ID before processing?

Each person working there to look at the ID.

Okay.

If they look 40 or understand okay, and what is the policy for when somebody does serve someone under age?

Turbination.

Okay.

And that's saying your written employee policy.

Yes.

Okay.

We think just to piggyback on that.

We saw that in the report.

We suspect but don't know that that was that complaint was related to a recently terminated disgruntled employee.

Okay.

Well, and and there was no evidence found of my sales to mine.

So uh with that, is there a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Second.

All notes all those in favor say aye.

I would not order.

Uh all right, calling RR 4917130.

Joe HN Inc.

Door Business as Time Out Lounge address 6243 Allisonville Road.

Anyone here for timeout lounge?

Okay.

All right.

So continue.

Calling RH 492077, Circle Block Hotel LLC, normal business as Conrad Indianapolis.

Address 50 West Washington.

Were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

Yes.

Okay.

So for the record, Alex Sittermill and I have Ryan Fitzgerald, he's general manager of the Conrad downtown.

Um you may be I see a scan in the report there.

This is actually related to the Capitol Grill, which is embedded inside of the hotel and they utilize the the hotel's permit.

Um this was uh another uh employee permit situation was actually the manager at that time, John Mahoney, he did not have his employee permit updated when they came in when XIS came in and took a look at things.

He Mr.

Mahoney is no longer manager, it's a fairly recent change, but um at the Capitol Girl, but he did remedy and have his permit in place, the violation was paid.

Um and then Ryan can tell you his team works hand in glove with the Capitol Grill team to make sure that all employee permits are current, training is there, and that though the the evidence of that the paperwork is on site um able to be viewed by excise if they stop in.

So it looked like it's like two or three years expired.

Yeah.

How did it go that that long?

Uh breakdown in checking in the policy.

According to Miss, I've got an email from Mr.

Mahoney.

He which I don't think explains why it went two years without being renewed, but he moved from employee to manager and didn't renew his employee permit.

I'm not sure if he thought that because he was a manager and not a server anymore that he didn't need it, but he was informed that yes, he did need that.

He renewed it that day or the next day after the violation was issued, and now um you know Ryan and his team are double checking, making sure that the Capitol Girl folks, everyone working in there does have their permits.

Yeah.

So explain to me, you're the general manager of the hotel.

That's correct.

Um how do you oversee both the hotel and the restaurant?

How does that work?

So we require them now.

We obviously reviewed our policy, but we we look at that on a monthly basis with all of their you know, any additions to team members.

We've also taken it a step further to calendar those expirations to give us a 60-day heads up that they're coming.

Um so both our team, our director of human resources director, food and beverage, as well as their management team are working in conjunction now together to make sure that this does not repeat.

Is there some sort of written outline on whose responsibility who has what responsibility or we do we have an SOP that we're we take responsibility to our liquor license, but we also require them to follow the same relative policy that we have?

We ask them to write that policy for their own business, but but we have our own that that assumes responsibility for oversight of this.

Okay.

Any further questions?

Is there a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR 491-2302, core of Indiana Enterprises Inc.

doing business as rock lobster.

Address 820 Barripple Avenue.

Hello.

How are you doing?

Yes, Ms.

Johnson.

What's uh your name?

Steve Wentland.

And uh your relation to the business owner and manager.

Let me look at something really quick.

You had a second violation.

More recent violation.

Was that just paid?

Um believed only when we have is the uh the character issue, but it was paid immediately.

For the previous owner.

For what I'm sorry, for no employee for that.

Uh I've got one that was paid on in January 2025, and then I've got one looks like it was entered August of 25, and it still shows pending.

I don't have a word.

That was a violation for determination of reputation and character and high and fine reputation.

Uh that one I don't have the gentleman's name, but I've talked to him several times on the phone, and he is informed you that he would get back to me that they were doing an investigation in that prior case.

That was on that was against Robert Sabatini, who's no longer involved in the business, correct?

He's employed by me, but he is not as a management.

Okay, explain to explain to me how that worked.

Um I bought the bars uh from him.

He's on them for 30 years.

Uh just kept him on board to help the kind of day-to-day receiving the deliveries type stuff, and uh most of his hours are uh served while we're not open, like we don't open until five, so he's usually there in the daytime just to be there for the cleaning people to come, the food deliveries and help with some basic stuff like that.

And my deal was to keep him on for a little while after we bought it just because kind of didn't want to just kick him to the curb.

Okay, um, well, reading through this report, number one is pending, so we we can't hear this violation until it's settled.

What I would like to do is continue this one to March.

Um I will talk to the prosecutors, see what the status is on this on this violation, and then also I would like to sit down and talk to you because of the nature of the violation and his involvement, make sure I'm comfortable with where we're at as far as ownership.

The case that they brought that to us for is still pending, it's not even been uh like trial yet.

So I was kind of my I was kind of confused how they can do that when it's not even it's not even been proven guilty yet.

So well, there's you you have the criminal criminal aspect and the criminal charges, and then you have the administrative violation and which involves the the alcohol permit.

So we're just here on the the alcohol violation, yes ma'am.

Um but again I want to sit down and have a conversation with you, yes, ma'am.

Make sure that I'm comfortable with the ownership structure and his involvement in the business.

So let's go ahead and continue your renewal to March 2nd.

Okay.

Uh what's your expiration date?

Are you currently open and operating?

Yes, ma'am.

Are you on an extension?

I believe so, yes, ma'am.

So you know when your extension expires?

Um believe February.

End of February.

So I thought it was a point.

An extension.

Okay.

Um we'll continue to see and uh in the meantime.

Both of them or for the I mean it's kind of it doesn't really make sense to sit here and listen to one and then we'll do them both at the same time.

Um, so just get with me at some point.

We'll send them.

Anytime I can make it available, you just let me know when they're wanting to reach out to you or yeah, just reach out to me.

You can email me or can I get one of your cards?

Yep, you sure can.

You're welcome.

Calling DL 492 5514, KJ Petroleum Inc.

doing business as BS food mark address 3018 North German Church.

Were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

Were you here at the beginning?

Yeah.

You were sworn in.

Okay, go ahead and see it for me.

Uh what are your names?

My name is Gluanson.

He was the name of Jess Watson.

And what are y'all relation to the business?

Um you have the bull to both our owners.

Okay.

Do you know why you're here?

Yeah.

Why are you here?

Do you know how to sound on my random windows?

Also tell them to you have to put all some sound on your partner license.

Do you have to put a white?

Okay.

So we had a couple of issues when the officers were there.

We had the signs.

You didn't have your signs posted.

Those are posted now.

Oh, you're no smoking signs?

Yeah.

Um, and then your your permit, your alcohol permit.

You have that posted?

Yes, ma'am.

And that was another issue, it wasn't posted, correct?

We already posted over.

This is uh convenience store.

Yeah.

How did all this happen?

We're probably doing somebody like a rookie of the what are the new doors and got to put to those signs over to you.

You understand you have to have them posted where the public can see them.

Just me.

I don't have any other questions to you guys.

Um even though it's just signage, I know this is still serious.

Yes, you can lose your license over Yeah, just you'll be good to do something.

Okay.

Cool.

Uh is there a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

All those on paper say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Calling RR491-8922 Ginny B L L C do a business as OB's pub address 2102 North Midhoffer.

Good morning.

Good morning.

You sworn in at the beginning of the day.

Absolutely.

All right.

What is your name, ma'am?

Mary Donsilor.

What is your relationship to the business?

Owner manager.

And how long have you owned it?

Uh coming on 17 years.

Okay.

Do you know why you're here?

I'm a little confused, but I believe it was you that I spoke to that explained to me that it was an open violation from 2024.

That was paid, and I brought the I yeah, it is paid.

So the way that this works, I know you were a little confused.

The way that it works is once you're issued a violation from excise, the commission sends you a settlement agreement.

Um you sign that, you pay it, then you come to the board and we discuss what happened.

Okay.

So there's two separate things.

You've got the payment of the violation and then the renewal.

Okay, okay.

Because I got my license last year.

That's where I was confused.

Because yeah, so now you typically come before the board every other year as long as you don't have a violation, it got missed.

I should have come last year.

It's fine.

I had it kind of.

I just want to make sure you understand.

I do now.

Okay.

All right, great.

Okay, so what happened with the violation?

As far as how did they obtain the violation?

What happened?

Why what happened when excise officers were there?

They came in asking for video footage from an incident that happened in my parking lot.

I set that up for them.

That happened on a Saturday into a Sunday.

They were there on a Tuesday, and they went through all of my cameras, and that's how they violated me on my bartender serving the waitress at 3 13 in the morning, her shift drink, yes.

Okay.

So they were there investigating a shooting that happened outside.

Correct.

Did they find that the bar had any involvement in the shooting?

No.

But while they were there, they saw that you were served selling after hours.

Not me.

Not you, but your employee, but which means you're not going to be able to do that.

Because I was correct.

What happened to those employees?

They were suspended for a while.

And money hurts up when you're used to having money every day.

It hits.

So how long have they been working for you?

Uh Ashley, four years.

Davey on.

I just we figured out was the waitress.

She's been there twelve years.

Did they did they know they weren't supposed to do that?

Absolutely.

Okay.

What about the smoking inside the restaurant?

That was absolutely they know they're not supposed to be doing that either.

And they know I have now 24 cameras inside my bar.

And then I can pop in any time if I'm not there and look and see what they're doing.

Got it.

How often how often are you there?

I'm there every day.

My hours vary.

I don't keep the same hours.

They don't know when I'm coming or when I'm going.

In I know you probably not food focused, but you have to have the minimum food required.

Oh, I know.

Yeah, because I know that he I did the dried powdered milk, the ramen noodles.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

So you know what food you're required to have.

Yes, ma'am.

All that's been corrected.

Um and then probably the big one are so we're going on two years, so yes, it has been.

Make sure that they're not expired.

I I know their self-life's good for three, so I'd keep an eye on that too.

Um so then I guess probably the big one in the report is are the server training certificates and the employee permits.

Is it whose responsibility is to keep track of the employee permits?

Mine, but it's also theirs.

They are adults.

You should be you should know when your license is, but yes, I do have to remind them.

It's like having children.

Yeah.

And you have copies of all of those?

Yes.

How do you check those to make sure they're not expired?

Do you have a system?

I have copies of them right there in the file folder, and I have it on the outside when each one each year that it comes up and expires.

So do you go through them periodically, like once a month?

If my employees would change, but they they haven't changed, so they have the same expiration, their expiration hasn't changed, so I know on the back of my folder when their expirations coming up.

I guess my question is how often do you look at that?

Right.

I mean, I see it every day.

So it's posted somewhere in your office.

How many how many employees you got?

Five.

So you got all their expert expiration committed to memory?

No, it's on the back of my uh envelope.

I got it in a folder.

They're they're in the folder, but then I have their names on the outside when they expire.

So it's like hanging up, so when you're you see it every day, so it's in a folder on a folder on the door.

Okay.

That's what we're trying to figure out.

Yes.

Okay.

Um you got any uh other violations in the parking lot?

I have in 17 years, yes.

Um I'm sorry.

Yeah, three of them were um from bartender serving minors.

Uh one of them was where they tried to say I falsified information.

I proved that I did not falsify information.

So those were the last violation for this location was 2011.

Oh, okay.

All right.

We appreciate that.

Are there any more uh questions?

I'm just glad it was clarified to me though, because I I know I that I told you I said I didn't understand.

Sure.

So uh is there a motion?

Motion to approve?

Is there a second?

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Okay.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Have a great day.

Street one.

Uh suite one team.

Did I send you guys it carried over from the next one?

Yeah, I think I might have skipped it.

Let me I'll send it to you guys real quick.

Okay.

Were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

I was, yep.

What is your name and your relationship to the business?

David Andrus, owner.

Oh, well, we're getting that.

Can you tell us what happened?

Uh so it looks like we had violations for uh serving after hours and failure to clear the the drinks off the bar by 3 30 and uh employee permit.

Uh wasn't done properly.

So the uh after hours, is that something you had to do regularly or just kind of got caught this time?

So I'm not trying to make excuses, but just bringing context.

That was the night of the Big Ten championship with IU and Ohio State, and we were it was the single busiest night we've ever had, so I mean, obviously I suspended the bartender that um that served after 3 a.m.

and we've implemented new uh procedures where uh you know last calls 15 minutes, everything's 15 minutes ahead just to avoid anything like that ever happening again.

So I know that was a big event, but being downtown there's lots of big events, right?

Correct, yeah, all the time.

So you need to make sure that you have something in place where you can handle handle big crowds and big events, yeah.

Um you have any other violations?

Yeah, there was uh an employee permit.

Uh he had applied for his uh liquor license, and we had the receipt and my front of the house manager.

How long ago was that?

When was the violation?

Yeah, how long yeah?

Uh I think it was in like September.

Oh, well, it was recent.

It was recent, yeah.

Um it was the same day they came in to review the cameras to get the the other violation.

That's how they caught that violation.

Um it was corrected on site.

The employee uh I guess accidentally put that he was out of state, had an out of state license or something.

So they corrected that day, and the his permit was issued.

So I was there when they wrote issued the violation.

I feel like there was more than one employee that had issues.

I'm trying to send this report to them.

Okay, see they should have it on.

Um go back and look at it.

I think there might have been someone whose serve safe had had expired, um, but she was not on, she wasn't working that day, I don't think, because we went, I I believe the front of the house manager went through all the files with the the officer.

Yeah, and uh that was the only violation with anyone that was working that day.

I think we have staff that are you know that I know we have one girl that she was on maternity leave, so she was out for several months.

We've got a lot of you know, front of the house that are on pickup status.

Okay, so yeah, so according to the report they had Michael who was working on an expired permit.

Yeah, that was the one that was with the out of state driving record.

Yeah, then we had Steven who was working off a receipt that had been dated 12325, but he'd been there for almost two years.

Um we had Caitlin who was expired November of 2025, and then there was one training certificate in the restaurant which was expired for the entire staff.

So there were no training certificates for any of the employees.

Whose responsibility is it to maintain these records and make sure they're out?

Ultimately mine.

I mean the front of the house managers who does it, but again, those people uh we have a lot of staff that work on an interim basis.

I know for a fact, Caitlin, she just had a child, she's been she hasn't been there for years.

Um, but we can still keep files in case they ever want to pick up, and we have gone through since then and updated everyone's safe service certification to make sure we have a copy of it and make sure everyone has current liquor licenses.

Um what would how come you wasn't checking that before?

We were uh I think the the serve safe certification was one that uh my front of the house manager didn't realize that that was uh uh a necessity to you know at the same level as the liquor license.

Because I think aren't there some that have no expiration dates like on the serve safe?

No, I don't know.

From back in the day, no, okay.

Um manager Munos, manager, uh have you completed a manager's questionnaire for him?

Because there is at the time of this report, there was not one on file.

Okay.

I don't know if we've if that was on the we will get it done this week.

Okay.

So we're still missing the manager's questionnaire, but everything else has been corrected.

Is mine is my questionnaire not on there, or you just need both of ours?

If he's operating as a manager, then he needs to have a manager's questionnaire on trial.

Any more questions?

Any questions?

Any more questions?

Okay.

Um is there a motion?

I'll make a motion to this is a lot of small issues here.

I'm gonna make a motion for one year.

A lot of management issues here, which is a a lot of uh basic stuff, but this can lead to other things.

So I'll make a motion for a one year.

Second.

There's a second.

Um all those in favor say aye.

I motion carries.

Motion carries.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And that's assuming that manager's questionnaire gets submitted.

Yes.

Calling RR4905386, Milo Entertainment LLC doing business as the red room, address 902 East Westville Boulevard.

See how you send secure so that it'll log in for that.

Oh sorry.

I have to say it's all send it.

It's all right.

Ties don't do that, but I gotta figure out how to not do it.

Alright, what is your name, sir?

Uh Eric Hinton.

What is your relationship to the business?

Partner and general manager.

Were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

I was.

Okay.

Do you know why you're here?

I do.

Why are you here?

We received a violation for not presenting the fact that we are food compliant for customers.

So you didn't have the minimum food service.

We did.

Um the a plain clothes officer arrived uh right after doors and asked the bartender a question.

Um he forwarded them to a restaurant down there uh in Broader Pool area.

Um since we are a nightclub, we don't serve dinner, but we do have all the food compliant um items and menus in place.

He the officer, uh the bartender asked the officer if he wanted to check see the items, check that them's officers or not.

Well, you know, having the items is one part of it, it's having them available and serve as the other part when they're at then when they're requested.

Correct.

We failed to do that.

What is your um policy now that you've been made a weird that if somebody requests it, it needs to be provided.

I I put a menu behind the bars for them for the bartendant to simply just hand the food compliant menu.

We don't have a kitchen, we do have uh microwave, and we have all the necessary the hot sandwiches up to 25, the ramen noodles, the milk, everything.

And uh we had a bartender training on what to say to customers when they ask for for food.

Okay, which I'm guessing is probably not very often.

Not very often.

I did sell one hot pocket uh last month.

How much your hot pocket?

Oh man.

Wow, excise officer told me I could do up to 40.

I decided 30.

She was hungry.

Goodness.

That's tough.

I know we laugh.

Right now we're laughing about it, but it is a requirement, it's part of the permit.

You have a restaurant permit.

I know you're not your business is not centered on food, yeah.

But that is on us completely, 100%.

All right.

Uh is there any other questions?

Was there a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Is there a second?

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Thank you for your time.

Calling RR4933102, Lincoln Irvington, LLC.

Calling DL4931160, B15 Inc., doing business as B15 Inc.

Address 15 Beachway Drive.

Okay, there we go.

First point.

Guys are back.

Yes, ma'am.

I know we touched on it a little bit earlier when you were up here, but remind us again of what the violation was for.

Um it happened last year uh in May.

Um it was in the morning around L1 a.m.

Uh excessive police officer sent her under a cover under age agent inside to buy a can of beer.

It was a Bud Light Margarita.

Uh she came to the uh register, you know.

My employee, uh our employee, uh served her, didn't check the ID, you know, and just let her walk out and completed a sale, which is uh obviously a strict violation.

You know, there's no there's no suspensions, there's no this straight up termination, you know.

We have an agreement with uh every employee that we hire, and we do check over cameras and you know, do talk to them if we ever you know see anything suspicious.

And because their excuse was uh they were just too busy.

Nobody's that busy 11 a.m.

in the morning.

You know, they were dealing with the customer behavior, you know, they were distracted.

There's there's no excuse.

You know, two these are two basic uh rules for having a leaker servers, you know, check IDs, and second is don't don't sell it to anybody who's intoxicated, you know, basic information.

Is the policy to check everyone's ID or just if you're under 40?

Uh everybody under 40.

Okay.

What happens with if they violate this policy?

So just this person was terminated.

Yes, sir.

Yes.

Okay.

Because you know, you you go back to one, then you know it's leniency, it's a message, it's a wrong message to all the other employees.

Because now we have the the green ticket posted on every register in both the businesses.

As a reminder, it's another step, you know, a player like, hey, check IDs.

You know, it's clearly stated there's three or three violations, you know.

Then you're underage coming to a store, you know, then selling them is another this because there's three violation tests you just want, you know, but just serving somebody under age.

We we have installed well, we figured out like a way to scan IDs too.

That was gonna be my next question.

Yes, we have um it's called the Krona POS system.

So you cannot complete a sale without scanning an ID.

Yeah, 10x transaction can go through, but having to physically scan the ID.

Or if they so we are we for this is a new system that we are updating all the all the scripts.

So then at so you don't have that in place, you're gonna put that in place.

No, no, we we for the current system is it doesn't scan all the state IDs.

It's like but Indiana, Indiana, and like uh like only one or two state IDs that don't scan.

Then the the employee just you know manually checks it himself.

Okay, so it it scans 99% of the ID is just few states that and that's just because the the system that we have right now, the both the stores which are being updated, it's PC America, very old data.

The new system that that we're gonna start the new store is called Krona POS.

And you know, they should all 50 states and everything, even international, they do everything.

That's the main reason us switching the PUS system, you know.

Because you know, we don't want there's no argument, there shouldn't be any argument with the employee and the employer.

Why do you sell it underage?

You know, now we have the system capabilities.

ID should be scanning.

And if they're not scanning, you sell underage.

There's no excuse.

Uh we don't want to hear excuse.

But if you only card 40 and under, how do how do you get around scanning the ID?

Is there we were getting a lot of uh no no no?

So you either you have to scan the ID, you have to punch in the date.

You can't press cancel and just overwrite it.

You have to either scan it or have to enter their date.

You have to ask the date.

So if they look over 40, you ask them their data burden and enter a data burden.

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

You can't you can't overwrite this that option when when you go to checkout, you have to either scan it or enter the ID.

But but an employee who was who didn't care and was busy, could just type in any date and override it though.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

Yep, yes, sir.

So you guys said that you actively monitor your actively monitor, like I said, even the violation.

We have it posted on all the register, the green ticket, you know, just another step of uh just a measure, you know.

And other than that, you know, just eat their heads about it, you know, every week, you know, they hit us for it, but this is the part of the job.

Yeah, it's and it's very basic.

That's that's the disappointing part.

You know.

Well, at least you're trying to take a step to um was there any other questions?

Is there a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

All those in favor, uh, all those members say aye.

Aye.

Motion carries, I guess.

Calling RR4935087, INH Investment LLC, doing business as morning, breakfast and brunch address 2654 Lake Circle Drive.

This one has two reports.

Hello.

Good morning.

Were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

Yes.

Um, he owns fixed resonance for over nine nine years.

Nine years, yeah.

And uh is the first violation that he got to get is the first violation.

Yeah, for this incident it is.

I mean, we serve a it was a new employee, she was two weeks in the job, she served their minor.

Okay, it looks like I'm shown two violation reports for this location.

One was the uh layout.

We added the patio and we've got to notify you guys.

And actually you were the one that came in and inspected.

Um there a shooting inside your location?

Oh, yes, there was uh two years ago.

Okay, what happened there?

An employee, some a customer, she got upset, and an employee the customer was actually walking out, and the employee decided to instigate it, and uh the customer pulled a gun on her and hit her in the head, or she hit in the head with the gun, the gun fire into the ceiling.