Today is Monday, March 2nd.

This hearing of the local alcoholic beverage board of Marion County is now in session.

My name is Tyler Graves, and I serve as the president of the board.

Today we will hear cases in Speedway, Beach Grove, Lawrence, and then the rest of Marion County, Indianapolis.

Representing the town of Speedway is Mr.

Robert Staten, representing the City of Beach Grove is Miss Angie Johnson.

Representing the city of Lawrence is Mr.

Jim Hennigan.

Serving as secretary of this board is exise officer Amy Sony.

This meeting is being broadcast live on Channel 16.

It'll be rebroadcast in the coming weeks.

At this time, please silence your cell phone so you do not interrupt the hearing.

If you find it necessary to take a call or to have a conversation with someone here with you, please be respectful and step out into the hallway.

Here's the order in which we will conduct business this morning.

We will first ask individuals who have come to remonstrate to stand and come forward to the microphones hanging from the ceiling.

Give us the name and address of the business you're here to remonstrate against.

We will then hear cases on today's docket pertaining to the town of Speedway, City of Beach Grove, and the City of Lawrence.

Next, we will call all applicants for new or transfer application on today's docket.

We will then call renewals on today's docket which have violations or remonstrators.

After we finish today's published docket, we will consider the cases that have been continued from a previous hearing.

All of those coming before the board today, whether you're an applicant or represent representing the applicant, are here or are here to remonstrate, will testify under oath.

Officer Sony will now administer the oath.

We're going to testify before this board this morning.

Please raise your right hand.

Do each of you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you have given on your application or any answer you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Yeah, I think if an applicant should have remonstrators, it has been the practice of this board to accept one request for continuance from both the applicant and the remonstrator.

Should the board deem it appropriate, additional continuances may be granted.

Are there any remonstrators in the hearing room?

Morning, my name is Captain Wayne Cry representing the Amps Metropolitan Police Department remonstrating on the point 2.0 3343 North Arlington Avenue.

And I believe they're asking for a continuance to April.

April.

Chris Staub opposing 3801 East New York Street, Rajuru Inc.

Okay.

Any other remonstrators?

All right.

Applicants appearing in Marion County are required to have four items before the board can hear your case.

We cannot, we will not hear your case if you do not have these four items.

First, the affidavit of compliance of posting the permit advertising sign from the ATC for at least 10 days prior to the meeting hearing.

The second, the affidavit of compliance or notice sent to property owners and neighborhood organizations that you sent wrote written notice to about today's hearing.

The third, the zoning affidavit obtained from the Department of Metropolitan Development.

And the fourth, the Marion County Tax Clearance form from the Indiana Department of Revision.

If you do not have all of these items, let us know when you come forward.

In addition to those required documents, if you are a new or a transfer application, you are required to have a final inspection approved before your permit can be made active.

You will need to contact me to schedule that inspection.

I will give you my contact information when we call you forward and hear your application.

It is your responsibility to contact me.

I will not contact you.

Okay.

Want to start with Lawrence?

Sure.

Let's go with Lawrence.

Okay, we have a new one.

It's uh RR 4943192.

The Blue Lagoon operating as the blue boon at 11705 Pendleton Pike.

Yeah, come forward, sir.

And do you have your application?

Uh yes.

You can hand that to the officer right here.

All right.

All right.

You ready?

Go ahead.

So your plan, you're gonna go carry out or anything like that.

Just say again for your carryout.

You go do any carry out liquor or there's a supplemental uh application for carryout.

C do plan to do carry out.

Yeah, is this your first is this your first police beverage permit?

Uh no, it's the second.

Okay.

Um we uh we launched in 2017.

We had a permit then.

Um I think it was maybe 24 roughly.

Uh we fell behind as far as uh tax violence because we were doing the tax violence internally.

Um, and as a result, could not renew the license, so the license cancelled.

Okay, um so now we've outsourced tax violence to an accounting firm, got all of that squared away.

Okay, is that for this restaurant?

Yeah, how long's your restaurant been open?

Since 2017.

Okay.

Um you had any police runs at your location?

Any calls for the police for fights, anything like that?

No.

What are your hours of operation?

We're closed Sundays and Mondays, open Tuesdays through Saturdays, approximately 11 a.m.

to 9 p.m.

Do you plan on staying open later with alcohol?

No.

Okay, so are you food focused?

Food focused for sure.

We have two food trucks as well.

So are your uh your waitresses and waiters trained in ID and people to come in and all that.

Oh, yes, that's not procedure for that.

Okay.

Well, I'm gonna make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, all second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Okay, we have another new one.

Is RR 49437 House Grill LLC operating at 4741 North Post Road?

Anyone here from House Grill.

All right, I'll show it.

Continue.

That was easy.

Okay, we have a renewal without violations is RR 493138, mama's house Korean restaurant, operating as mama's Korean restaurant at 88867 Penalton Pike.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

We have another renewal without violation is DL4931940.

DW Bar uh B L L C is Big Red Liquor is what it is.

Is 8029 Pendleton Pike.

I'll make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Okay, now we have a renewal with violation.

Is RR 4936592 at 8501 Pendleton Pike Club LLC operating as the Harem House at 8501 Pendleton Pike?

This one's still pending before the commission.

Alrighty.

That was easy.

Okay, we have another uh renewal with violation is RR4931124 Maya Sol LLC operating as Miles Soul at 8015 Pendleton Pike Suite C.

This one's requested a continuance.

Right on, that was easy.

Moving on to Beach Grove.

I have a renewal without violation.

DL 490 3421, Payless Liquors Inc.

Business is Payless Liquors at 4924 South Emerson Avenue.

I make a motion to approve.

Uh motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

All right.

Another renewal without violation.

DL 492 6678.

Wall greens Wall Green Co.

Doing business as Wal Green's number 2956, located at 1808 North Albany Street.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

And last renewal without violation, RR 493 9523.

Wall I L C doing business as walleye.

614 Main Street.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second all those in favor say aye.

All right.

That takes care of beach group.

Thank you.

Moving on to speedway.

Evan is walking.

Okay.

Um this is renewal without violation.

RR492 3978, Wingman 5 LLC 6121 or 6129 Crawfordsville Road Suite B.

Doing business as Buffalo Wild Wings, Grill and Bar.

Motion for approval.

Um motion or the yeah, motion for approval.

I'll second all those in favor say aye.

That was Buffalo Wild Wings.

Yes.

Yes.

Was there one above that?

No more.

Oh what?

Your new one.

Oh, well, I've got that at the bottom.

I'll okay.

Okay, this is another renewal.

DL 491353, Pit Stop Liquors Inc.

4948, Crawford's Vill Road doing business is pit stop liquors.

Motion for approval.

Uh motion for approval, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

RH 4930108, TPAT, LLC 6315, Crawford's Ville Road, doing businesses courtyard Indianapolis West.

Motion for approval.

Motion for approval, I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

DL 4931933, TWG, VRL, LLC 5959, Crawford's Ville Road.

Doing business is big red liquors number 205.

Motion for approval.

Motion for approval, I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Okay, this is the new one.

R R 494-3407.

Tootsie's chicken and fish, LLC location pending doing businesses.

Chicken and fish LLC.

Anybody here from Tootsie's?

Hey, come on up.

Do you have your application?

I do not.

Okay, come on forward.

Yeah.

Did you still need to have it?

Yeah, perfect timing.

So happy.

I was like, wait, I had to break my car off.

It's so much longer than I thought.

I didn't expect that.

Two-hour delay at school, whatever it's we'll have a couple, apparently.

We're gonna have a couple of two.

Well, okay, that takes care of Speedway, Beach Grove, and Lawrence.

Thank you.

All right, we're gonna move on to the rest of Indianapolis.

Starting with new permits calling RC four nine three zero zero four seven Downey Home Association Incorporated, located at 4071 South Keystone Avenue.

If you need more chairs, there's uh take either side if you need more chairs.

Morning, Mark.

Morning.

Um Mark Paul and Burrow, and this is uh Downey Homeman Associates, and I'll have each individual introduce themselves.

I'm David Jackson, president of the Downey Home Association.

I am Scott Crosson, and I am the treasure of Downey Home Association.

Mike Gilko, the grand knight for Monsignor James and Downey, Knights of Columbus, Council 366.

Wonderful.

What are we doing?

Ah, this is a new permit.

Okay, the uh it's a new location on Keystone Avenue.

This uh previously they had a location for 40 some years on Thompson Road.

Okay, the best of our knowledge it was never never a violation.

The um we would have been here on the board last month, but we had on the zoning.

What all the weather everything we couldn't get the people off of the zoning.

So we're asking so this is the nights of Columbus?

Yes.

Okay.

Well you're moving locations.

Pardon me.

You're you're just you moving locations.

It's existing nights of closest moving locations.

Right.

Okay.

And this is the required for should we run through the questions?

No.

Um, you can't move a cloud now.

So that's why they're applying for it.

Oh, yeah, we had to go for the new club.

So explain to the board how you're gonna check IDs.

So we check IDs on everybody, even though we're familiar with them and see them on a regular basis just to make sure.

Okay.

So you check everybody.

Check everything.

Do you guys you guys understand the responsibilities, the rules that come with uh ordering alcohol, how to order alcohol, the the certifications that your staff will need.

Yes, checking IDs, yes, yes, yes.

Okay.

Um hours of operation.

So um Friday from 3 p.m.

to 9 p.m.

And then Saturday, 11 a.m.

to 7 p.m.

What happens if one of your employees does serve a minor?

Pardon me?

If one of your employees does serve a minor, what happens?

Uh we have policies in place, of course, to rampand them and we will dismiss them from being a bartender in our organization.

Okay.

How about um how do you keep track of your membership and how often do you do open guest days and all of those types of things?

Open guest days will probably happen periodically.

We haven't really set anything up for that as far as uh guest days are concerned, but we would probably try to do at least one once a quarter, and we would have a membership roster on site that will be those uh if the bartender has any questions.

All of our members have membership cards, okay?

So they would have to uh present uh the membership card.

Do you all anticipate uh doing any rentals?

So allowing people to bring their own events to your facility, and if so, how do you handle that?

We we are planning on outside rentals, it will be limited to 75 or less.

Depending on the event, it will have uh we will provide security.

Um if they wish to have their own catering, we will let them uh cater their own food in.

Uh there will be no alcohol brought into the facility.

And um, we will uh definitely uh there will always be a board member on site to take care of any issues that might pop up.

Also, um if we're using outside vendors for food catering, um we would um uh encourage the outside caterer to to have their own liquor license and provide that so that we're trying to uh separate ourselves from public to paternal organization, got it.

So if the caterers bringing in their own license, then they would have to handle the bartending for that evening, correct okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye, good luck, gentlemen.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RH 493040, Delta Hotel N D L L C doing business as home to suites Indianapolis downtown at 115, North Pennsylvania Suite 150.

They've requested a continuant calling RH 4930402 hotels of Indy LLC doing business as Homewood Suites Indianapolis Downtown.

Is that the same one?

No.

No, they're they're just close, they're around the corner.

211 South the Meridian Street.

Come on in.

Do you have your application?

I do.

You can hand that to the officer.

Thank you.

All right, MC.

Sir, what's your name and your relationship to the business?

My name's Andrew Kiger.

I'm the assistant general manager.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license?

Uh no.

Nope.

How many do you have?

The uh the it would be our one and only the former one with the hotel changed ownership uh last January.

So we're just trying basically getting an applic uh new license for the new owners.

Okay.

Um so this will be your first for this ownership, yeah.

We'll go ahead and run through the questions.

We ask a set list of questions all first-time petitioners.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Uh no, our accounting department took care of the preparation.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

To the best of my ability, I believe so.

Yes.

Is there anything that you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

No.

Did you list the other members on the application?

I'm sure they did.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Oh, no.

We don't have we don't do bar service.

So this is a hotel permit or I mean a license for hotel, so you're going to have well why don't you tell me?

How's the transaction attack point?

Uh we keep everything in a locked cooler at their front desk.

The individuals have to come to the front desk, present their identification, tell us what they'd like to buy, and we get it for them.

What happens if one of your employees does not check an ID and does serve a minor?

Uh we have a process for uh corrective action in that what's the corrective action?

Uh they they would first I mean specifically with alcohol.

I don't think we have a separate one for that, uh, but I believe it would be much uh higher than typical.

Normally with corrective action, we do a verbal warning, written warning, and then uh term suspension pending termination.

Okay.

And and you understand that any employees working front desk, any employees working the front desk that are going to sell alcohol have to have an employee permit.

Yes, okay.

All right, any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve all second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Calling RR 494324 Intra Copa Entertainment LLC doing business as intra copas at 2989 West 71st Street.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Uh good morning.

My name is Esther Barber and Comarquez.

Francisco.

Oh, all right.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Thank you.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

I will translate for him because his English is not good.

Yes.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything else you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

It is the only negotiation.

Yes.

Alright.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

No.

It's a very small place.

What is it?

A restaurant?

Okay.

Okay.

This is uh in uh like uh restaurant, and it's not uh a restaurant, it's like a tapas.

They're gonna sell food.

Um the concept that he got is to have um we have the um according for what he explained me.

This a lot of the Hispanics knows that likes the football soccer, and he's gonna have all those games so people can come and have a drink with um they call it tapas, which is uh like a cheese in a small place.

And this is 21 and over only and over only para 21 years or but uh no lo queero familiar he would like to have like a family okay there's so two problems on the application it states that this is a very important part of bar I'm on uh according with him and we discussed that he mentioned like a bar and I said in the bar it's only 21 21 only and uh we talk about that and he told me okay 21 only but according he was talking to people from the zoning and I said they can be a family too so he can have minors on the kind of like a fast food restaurant okay on the floor plan it shows a bar yeah yeah it is what I was told and it's what I explained him when I apply for the um for the zoning that is what they told us in this case initially was uh a bar okay so is there still a bar inside the restaurant is un for no is como barbar is un mostrador que es donde se marca la area del barque donde van a estar la bebida alcoholica but mostrador okay this is the it's like a bar area where all the alcohol beverage would be uh separation I in esa zona no but he don't have no separation directo a las mesas ya no va a ver si no no va a ver si I asking him because I haven't been in that place he says that that is gonna be just to have all the alcohol beverage but all the alcohol was served by waiters not gonna be nobody's gonna be seated and in that it's like uh counter um since I haven't seen it yet let him know when I do the inspection depending on what it looks like he may have to put in separation if he wants to have all ages.

Okay.

Okay.

And when we schedule the appointment I just need someone there that can translate.

Do you have a policy for checking IDs?

What's that?

What's it say?

Okay he's gonna check all the IDs and uh to make sure nobody serve alcohol to a minor are you clear on the transaction so it sounds like it's a diner like is it a uh just a normally what I have for my clients uh when they took the class I also have some kind of written document in Spanish and English for the employees the employees took the class and they put the date they took the class the name and the people signed the document that in case they commit a mistake it it will be um repercussions to the mistake or error they commit to just to make sure I understand clearly what he wants to do he wants to have a restaurant with small plates like appetizer type food and then but the focus is gonna be for people to come in and play games no no watch they're gonna have watch watch the the soccer games or any other games on on the screens okay kind of like a school bar but it's not gonna be and I mean the families can go and see them watch the what's the what's the capacity?

Yeah sixty people this is a very small place.

Okay and you understand you just have a beer and wine permit.

See in the solamente I said yeah he's gonna take the class because he hadn't took the class I have a class set up for the ninth and I as always I want to make sure they fully understand all the regulations in regards to alcohol beverage.

And I as always I want to make sure they fully understand all the regulations in regards to alcohol beverage.

Okay, and all alcohol has to be delivered to the table.

Yes.

So it's this one that he told me to lasteros.

But okay, or then he's telling me they according to the games during the uh World Cup, but it normally will be from three o'clock in the afternoon till midnight.

And maybe in the weekend a little bit later, but I ask him I said what how later because they need to tell me how much that the case there is.

It will be three o'clock.

I struggle with the idea of this as a family restaurant based off of the concept, the hours of any capacity.

Um as a 21 plus bar, I'm totally fine.

Like it makes sense, but as a family restaurant, it doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true, but the application right now it's like it's a bar, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, so that's where the yeah.

Well, it it'll it'll come into play when I do the inspection.

Got it.

Okay.

So when I do the inspection, um it'll basically it'll be up to me to decide whether or not he can have the separation and it's gonna have to be bar 21 over on the case.

Okay, okay.

In that case, I mean we we can go definitely move forward, but I just wanted to voice my concerns about the family part based off the application and other elements.

But I will explain him also the curfew.

So when it comes to family, that minors cannot be after eleven o'clock at night in in that place.

Okay.

I I think the and correct me if I'm wrong, everybody, but I think our concern is that he's going to tell us he's opening a family restaurant, but in reality it's going to be a a bar.

But in la realidad basta manager un bar, no restaurant familiar.

Okay.

He says that his concept is uh to have the um whatever entertainment is on on on the TV or uh some special thing uh food which is uh what they call it tapas.

Yeah, we're clear we're clear on that part that it's gonna be we're clear on the fact that it's a tapest restaurant that you're gonna play sports.

I think where we're at now is I think we can move forward Officer Sunia is gonna do the inspection.

Yes, um, to determine whether or not he can have limited separation and then we'll just follow it through from there.

There was a bit of concern on my part about the family piece, but we don't have any issues until we have issues.

So I think that it sounds more like a sports bar.

Yeah, but with children.

Yeah, but with children, so yeah, I mean I'm fine to move forward and then we just sort out the other things that need to be sorted out as we move along with the inspection.

Yeah.

All right, with that I'll accept a motion.

Uh motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Calling RR 494 3325.

Takaria Danny LLC doing business as Takaria Danny at 6000 Southeastern Avenue.

She has more tackery, which is a restaurant, canapacos in uh uh fast food.

Ma'am, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

It's the primera.

She doesn't speak English.

All right.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Usted preparo la application or la llenoporos?

Okay.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Usted tuvo la opportunidad revisarla una vez que estuvo preparada.

For all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner.

Is there anything you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Is there at least two hundred feet between your premise and any church or school?

Do you understand that an excise officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Are you applying for carry out privileges?

No, they're gonna do the later.

Are you applying for limited separation?

Uh no, they it's very small place.

Okay.

What's the capacity?

Yeah, 42.

And then what are the hours of operation?

Well is on lasor operation de su negocio.

Ah from ten in the morning to nine p.m.

Okay, and what is the policy for checking IDs?

Oh si me piden algo de tomar menor de that.

Okay.

Uh when somebody asks for beer.

She's gonna check an ID that way she makes sure she don't sell alcohol to minors.

So all of them.

Yeah.

Okay.

How many servers will she have?

It's just one more.

Just one more type.

Yeah, because the place is small.

They have a lot of for what I understand they got a lot of carry out.

Um because the capacity is small and it they have the order and the window.

Okay, so make sure uh she understands if they order it the window, they have to have the alcohol has to be taken to the table.

Okay, so they can order it at the window, but it's got to be taken to them at the table.

See for employee or the comina con el alcohol is different.

See alguien le pinnacer.

Okay.

It cannot be served through the window.

No puedes servir that is a la ventana.

Okay.

Okay, with that.

Do we have any further questions?

Airing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Good luck, man.

Thank you very much.

Calling Ralling R R 494343.

Indy's famous Pancake House LLC doing business as Indy's famous pancake house at 1013 West Morris Street.

Good morning.

Do you have your application, sir?

Oh, next week, never mind.

I got the Oh wait.

Oh, okay.

Sorry.

You can have a seat.

All right.

So wonderful question.

Okay, so we do look at it.

Yes.

Oh, here's Nick.

Okay, uh Nick Royals with Bradford and Riley with me.

I have uh Francisco Mones.

Um owner for um Indies Pancake.

Um new location there, um, kind of tucked right in there uh at the Eli Lilly campus, um kind of underneath that top golf-esque um facility there as well.

So very small location.

Um but uh he has been open and operating for uh six months.

Six months.

Okay.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in a start?

Actually, I have another little this is our second location.

What county?

Uh Marion County.

How long have you had that license?

Uh over ten years.

How many violations do you have?

I did have one one time.

For what?

Uh for not checking ID.

Oh, what'd you do to the employee?

Um that was actually my fault.

So I got in trouble myself.

I was gonna fire me, but I can't.

Well, I mean it's funny, but on one hand, too, you set the you set the standard for how that operation's gonna work, right?

So if they see you not doing it, what do you expect out of them?

Yep.

So you gotta do better.

Uh how long ago is that?

Uh it's been it's been like I don't know like nine more than nine years.

Okay.

So what's the policy for checking IDs now?

Uh check in everybody no matter uh no matter who it is.

Do you have a written policy?

Yes, we do now.

So the employees sign that?

Yeah.

All right.

Do you know how to purchase alcohol?

Yes.

Okay.

And all your employees have all the right permits to serve alcohol?

Yes.

All right.

Hours of operation?

Uh seven, seven to three.

Seven to three every day?

Every day.

And then are you going to have limited separation?

Uh so it's just a small place.

Okay, because there's a you've got a bar area marked on your floor plan.

Is that it?

More of a countertop.

It's like a countertop, yeah.

It's not really a bar.

Uh I mean um it's just like uh ten chairs.

So it's just a very small place.

We have seven tables in there.

Okay.

When I'm there we'll look at it and see if it's gonna need separation or not.

Talk about those things.

All right.

That'll accept the motion.

Make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Calling R R 494344.

Can be sushi, Indy LLC doing business as can pie sushi 5375 East Thompson Road.

Uh probably probably that calling RR494382 Mahana Chan, LLC doing business as Thai Orchard 8145 Bass Street.

What?

Hi orchid.

What did I say?

Orchard.

Orchard.

I need Peter to read these taxes.

Have a seat, sir.

Thank you.

God with glasses on.

Yes.

One of the owners.

Okay.

One up.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes, I believe so.

I believe so.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone prepare it for you?

Yeah.

Answer loud enough that I can hear on the microphone.

Did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

Yes, sir.

Were all the answers contained in this application answered in a truthful manner?

Yes.

Is there anything you wish to add to the application?

No.

Are you the only owner of the business?

Yeah, me and my wife.

Your wife is she listed?

Ces okay.

Is there at least 200 feet between your premise and a church or school?

Yes.

Do you understand an excise officer may enter inspect and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Yes.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

No.

No.

Are you applying for limited separation?

No, no.

Table service.

Alright.

So you have a restaurant?

Yes.

And what's the capacity of your restaurant?

About six feet.

Sixty?

Okay.

What are the hours of operation?

Uh 11 to 9, Monday to Thursday, and Friday, Saturday, 11 to 10.

Okay.

Do you have a policy for checking IDs?

Yes, sir.

What's it say?

What is it?

You have one, what is it?

Right.

I cannot sell to the minor.

And what age do you check for ID for?

Oh, right.

Yeah, I can see it from under 40 or over 100.

You're gonna get yourself in trouble, pal.

I mean, it is a serious issue.

I mean, you're gonna have the ability to serve alcohol, and we want to know that you take that serious and that you have a policy and that these things matter to you.

Right, I have to check the ID, yeah.

So what is the policy?

Yeah, I cannot sell to the minor.

Right, but no, you can just get in trouble.

When would you check someone's ID?

If they look under a certain age, under what age would you want to check?

Right, it's I can yeah, pretty much see them under uh age.

Yeah, to check that or people 40 and 49er?

Yeah, 40.

Okay.

Have you gone through the um alcohol training?

Yes.

You have gone through the alcohol training?

Right, I do have that.

Okay.

So you know how to purchase alcohol and all your employees have all the right paperwork?

Right.

This was the old uh uh Thai orchid up on Bass Street.

So it's been there for probably 14 years.

They acquired the business.

So it will stay Thai orchid, stay Thai food.

Yes, restaurant, food focused, yeah, no bar, no, table service.

Okay, how many servers?

Just you and your wife, or will you have other servers?

Or no, only me and my wife.

So maybe is any in any other servers?

No, just the two of them.

Okay, and she's gone through the alcohol training as well, has her employee permit.

Okay.

Okay.

With no further questions, I'll accept a motion.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve.

Second.

A second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling R R 494 3418.

Gangnam Castleton, LLC, doing business as sushi, yama sushi, and grill ice, ace.

6020 East 82nd Street.

I eat?

I'm thinking Ace.

All you can eat.

Oh, really?

What did you say?

All you can eat.

Oh, all you can eat.

Well now we're not going to be able to do that.

Oh.

Upload a new acronym.

Morning.

This is in the mall.

Well, it's on the outside wall of the mall.

Used to be stir crazy years ago and something else.

But actually, it's gonna be Sushiama.

Yes.

Sushi Yama?

Yeah.

Um the lease was was in Gangham Custom.

He owned both companies, so we just are going to allow his work under under their license.

Probably get at least the other than get the lease renegotiated with Simon.

Okay.

So nothing will change as far as the operation goes.

Floor plan's not gonna change.

No.

No, same stains stays the same.

What's the capacity?

It's a pretty big restaurant.

But not 200, I think.

It's a good size restaurant.

Yeah, it's a big restaurant.

Um 150 to 200, yeah.

How many servers will you have?

Um five, no.

Five two six.

Howard uh uh alcohol transactions, how do they take place?

At the table or uh it'll be um storage at the back of the kitchen cooler.

Uh it's only served by bottles.

Yes.

Got it.

Okay.

Yes.

And so this is or is not your first alcoholic license?

He does.

How many violations do you have on your other license?

Um I think uh two.

Two.

Two?

Uh for you have one license and it has two violations, or you have multiple licenses.

Okay, what were the violations for?

Uh it's uh Po tax uh tax behind uh behind so we're on expired permit.

Oh what?

So we're on an expired permit.

Oh, expired permit?

Okay.

Both of the violations are for expired permit?

Yes.

Okay.

So how does that how do you make sure that doesn't happen again?

Um it's kind of an easy one.

Like your permit has dates, right?

And it ends on this date.

So how do you how do you make sure you know when your permit's going to expire?

Uh we will pay more attention and make sure focusing on the license, make sure they if they expire, we're not gonna serving that's that's all we can do.

Not a great answer, but I mean it's it's an answer.

So I I understand you correctly, he's gonna act as the landlord.

It'll be a sub-lease under he owns both Castle and Gangham Castleton LLC and Tsushiyama and the LLC are both his LLCs.

Okay.

They couldn't get the lease renegotiated with Simon.

So basically and the LC will operate under the license, which will be held by Gang, which is the leaseholder.

Okay.

And so will you be in there every day as a manager, or are you going to have someone else work?

They're also uh manager there at the location.

Have you completed a manager's channel?

We will get that done, yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Are you all already open and operating?

Are you open and operating currently?

Yes.

You are?

Yes.

Okay.

Okay.

Do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, calling R R 4943450.

Vell Asian Cuisine.

Doing business as Vell Asian Cuisine at 8908 street, Peter Street.

Peter Street.

St.

Peter's Street.

It's down by um across the street from Greenwood Mall.

All right, Nick.

Nick Ross with Bradford and Riley.

Um how do you pronounce your name?

My name is Chu.

Chu?

Yes.

Mr.

Chu?

Is that your first or last name?

Tong is my last name.

Tong?

Yeah, Chios Five.

Mr.

Tong, is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

The state.

Second one.

What county is the first what county is your current one in?

Uh the Greenwood.

So Johnson County?

How long have you had that?

Oh, four years.

How many violations do you have?

I don't have that.

What's the capacity of this space?

Um 40?

Yeah, it's it's a relatively small location.

Um but it's yeah, I think about 40 or 45, and then it's uh table service only.

Table service only?

Yes.

So do all of your employees have the correct paperwork?

Yes.

Okay.

And you know how to purchase alcohol?

Yes.

All right.

Have you is the restaurant been open very long?

Oh I just buy the uh one month ago.

You bought a month ago?

Yeah, it's only been open for a few weeks, I believe.

Okay.

And what is your process for checking IDs?

Checking ID.

Yeah.

Whenever they order alcohol, yeah, we asked ID.

All the people who have asked for the what happens if one of your employees does serve a minor what happens to the employee if they serve alcohol to someone who's under 21.

Uh maybe that we have to talk to them and then you know we have two we have to tell them about the R rule.

Like over 18 can set the over what?

18.

Well, that he said two serve.

But if somebody who is under 21 years of age gets served alcohol, but that employee you're you were saying you would retrain that employee or we could speak to that employee about the procedure and then you know maybe that uh we have to talk to them and then yeah, we have to tell them before like before they before they work for us.

We'd have to tell them just only the rule is over 21.

Oh yeah, the last one uh the the old restaurant I you take in the class?

Yes.

So you understand the rules and regulations for having an alcohol permit?

Yes.

You understand your employees have to have employee permits?

Yes, yeah.

Are you gonna have any servers under 21?

No.

So everyone will be over 21?

Yeah, over 20.

Employee permits you have to keep track of those records.

Yes, sir.

Uh if you've got two restaurants, how often will you be in this restaurant?

So the other restaurant I do sold it.

You just sold it.

So this will be your only location.

It's only the only location.

So you'll be in every day.

Yes.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

None.

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank you.

Moving on to transfer applications.

Calling RR 494305, Nova Lounge Incorporated doing business as Nova Lounge at 5030 Southeastern Avenue.

Uh this one's still pending before the commission, so it'll be continued.

Calling RR 4943207, the point two point oh LLC doing business as the point at 3344 North Arlington Avenue.

This one had remonstrators and Greg, just for the record, you're requesting a continuance, correct?

Yes.

Okay.

How many times has this one been continued?

Uh this is the first.

The first time or second, this is the second time.

Okay.

Calling RR 4943290, Guadalajara Grill and Cantina Mexican Restaurant LLC doing business.

Oh no.

That's 6925 East Southport Road.

Good morning.

All right.

Um Dennis Isava.

This is Mr.

Saul Ramirez.

And his daughter.

And uh this was an escrow uh license, and uh now the location has been uh found yeah, ready to work now.

So you've had this license for some time, put it in escrow, now you found a location?

Correct.

Okay.

How long have you had the license?

Uh-huh.

But yeah, we we got it by auction actually.

Oh you get it.

Went immediately into escrow until you found a location, so you haven't been open, you haven't used the permit.

Okay.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Nope.

No, how many do you have?

Four.

Four?

And uh how many violations do you have?

Uh maybe two or three in 24 years.

In 24 years?

Yeah, we've been in business since 97.

What were the violations for?

Uh the last one we had was one of the servers did serve alcohol to a minor.

Um it was actually uh person like uh from you come in and I appreciate that, but I'm not excised.

Um well, okay, so you've had that happen four times.

Is it right?

Is that what you're talking about?

No, no, no.

That's just the last violation.

Yeah, well, it only once.

When it came to selling to uh minors.

The other ones were uh if I recall correctly, is uh the expiration on the one of the servers expire on the permits.

Well, what are you doing differently?

So with the last uh violation that we had, obviously he had to pay for his fee, and then we had meetings with him.

He uh uh like we tell everybody once you uh renewed your license to sell, you have to take that class that comes with that.

And uh we requested him to take it again.

Uh otherwise uh we will get rid of them and thus the last warning he has no other choice but to do that.

Good.

And what is your role with the business?

Um his daughter and um one of the managers and with the new business, I'm gonna be co-owner on this business you'll be able to do.

Yeah, on the last one.

Okay.

Well, the application only has Mr.

Ramirez as an owner.

That is uh I mean for us what we know that it's Mr.

Ramirez, it is this isn't over there.

Two lists.

Unless there's something I mean, f officially that's what we have, at least that's something private.

But uh as far as we're concerned, Mr.

Ramirez is the the primary owner.

But she just testified that she's going to be an owner.

Uh uh I'm under I'm under oath.

Uh uh I'm on that oath.

So I I will testify for what I mean in the back.

Well, I'm sorry.

No, I'm only I'm only disappointing for what I know, what I know, or what I'm aware of, which is that uh Mr.

Ramirez is the primary uh ma'am, you're going to how what percentage of ownership are you gonna have in this business?

Well I'm I'm a help in, so I don't per se I don't invest in the business, I'm gonna help run it.

So mainly he's the owner, but I'll be running the business.

Does that make sense?

I mean, as a manager, you know, if he owns it, you're managing it, that's one thing, but you did just tell us you're gonna be the owner, um, one of the owners.

So then there's a paperwork aspect of that where you have to list yourself as one of the owners.

So it comes down to do you need to amend your application?

Are you going to be an owner?

No, no, no.

Okay, but I sound like you know she is my daughter, you know, as my daughter in the case.

So yeah, financially, I'm not the owner.

I describe myself as an owner because I'll be taking care of it, I guess, as a manager.

Uh I'll be there working and making sure that the business runs smoothly.

So I'll be they're taking care of it.

Well, he issue you a paycheck.

Yeah, as uh as a worker, as an employee.

Yeah.

Just like I've been getting paid up to now.

The idea is for me to be the owner because I'm gonna be there taking care of it.

He'll be making the main decisions, but I'm there to make sure that everything runs properly.

Okay, so you need to understand though when you say those words owner and manager for this board, they mean very specific things.

Um if you are truly a manager and an employee of your father, then for our purposes, you are not an owner.

Okay.

Um so you need to be very, very careful about identifying yourself as an owner, especially if someone from excise comes in.

Okay.

So if you're being if you're on the books, you're being paid as an employee.

That's one thing.

If you're financially invested in this business, then you've now have ownership and paperwork needs to be redone.

Okay, and no, I'm not.

Are there any plans to do that?

Maybe in the future.

He's trying to help me.

I went through a divorce, and so he's trying to help me, you know, like become better financially.

So I guess that's where all this started like.

So at some point, the plan is for you to actually own this business.

Yes.

Okay.

When that occurs, you will need to refile the paperwork.

Okay.

And do a transfer of ownership.

Okay.

You don't want a false ownership, that's a felony.

Okay.

You guys comfortable with that?

Yeah.

Um I'm comfortable with it as until like I said with the last one.

We don't have issues until we have issues.

Um, you will need the manager's questionnaire, right?

Your Korean, correct?

Yes, yes.

They have a manager.

They do have one.

Okay.

Okay.

With that, I'll accept a motion.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR 494 3315 Indian Haveli Restaurant LLC Indian Haveli Restaurant 6566 West Washington Street.

Requested a continuance.

Calling R R 494316 Thai Station Cuisine LLC doing business as Thai Station Cuisine at 3317 East 86th Street.

Do you have any of the other people where I just okay?

Go ahead and have you both come forward, please.

Sir, I got to come forward.

Oh so an order of press because your application you have to have all three.

No, this is very in in Indianapolis.

You have to do the sign, but you also have to do these other things as well.

So I would believe that.

Um also offering this, the sign.

Okay, so leave the sign posted.

Would you like me to call all these at the same time?

Okay.

Calling DL4934402.

Calling DL 493403.

And DL 4934404, as well as DL four nine three four four oh five.

TWG Brill L L C doing business as part of pack, gateway liquors, 38th and mass liquors.

Party pack.

Yeah.

Is that you?

Good.

With a DVAs are changing.

Are we going to change all the DVAs?

Uh TWG.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

You're the big red.

Yes.

Do you remember the bus you guys had in Bloomington?

We had a big like whatever happened to that bus.

Uh I think uh uh trying to figure out which promotion that was, but um we just had it for a short period of time in the parking lot for everybody to take pictures.

It was it was a football game thing.

So a lot of fun.

Okay, so what are we doing?

Uh we are purchasing uh party pack south, north, uh gateway liquors, and 38th in mass.

Okay.

Lookers.

Um keeping the staff?

Yes, sir.

Any I guess you'll adopt your policies now that they're your locations.

What are your policies for checking IDs?

Uh we card anybody that is uh under the a appears under the age of 40.

What happens if one of your employees does serve a minor?

Uh we terminate them.

Termination.

How many locations do you guys have now?

Uh we have uh 108.

In Indiana?

In Indiana.

Wow.

I believe we're the fifth or sixth largest chain in the United States at this point.

Wow.

Um capital investment being made into any of these stores.

Will they stay the same?

Uh yes, we fix refrigeration, uh, we put in some new fixtures, uh, new registers, uh, new uh infrastructure with uh uh IT uh to get them updated to where we need to operate.

Do you use a scanner?

Yes, sir.

You do any further questions from the board?

Have you had any violations?

Yes, one in the last year.

Okay, what was it for?

Uh serving a minor.

Okay.

And then yeah, how was it handled?

Oh, we terminated the uh clerk and it was a stained operation that we missed.

Compliance check.

We don't see them very often for violations.

Got it.

No, we don't.

Okay, I'll accept the motion.

I make a motion to approve.

And is that for all four?

That is for our four.

All right, motion to approve and I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye, good times four.

Thank you.

Uh-uh.

Calling R R 49437 log.

You say like one of eat the problem.

At 2460, East 71st Street.

Yes.

I think this is Eric Lunas, he's this whole owner of the business.

And his niece uh Andrea Perez in the Hope of Translation.

Sign and this one about the orange sign repository to the 41.

I gotta pin the name of the thing.

Do you have the names and addresses?

You have the names and addresses for the notices.

Yeah, it's good.

Okay.

And uh what was it like?

All right, so who do we have with us?

Um Andrea and Eric.

And what's your last name, Eric?

Ayala.

A Y L A.

Okay.

Is this your first alcoholic beverage license in the state of Indiana?

Yes.

All right, we have set list of questions.

Please answer out loud enough that I can hear you on the microphone.

Did you prepare this application yourself or did someone else prepare it for you?

Because it does the application delay.

Um did you have a chance to review the application after it was prepared?

See.

Is there anything you wish to add to the application?

Uh no.

Are you the only owner of the business?

See.

All right, is there at least 200 feet between your premise and any church or school?

And do you understand that an excited officer may enter, inspect, and search your permit premise at any time without a warrant?

Uh inspect that same thing.

Are you applying for carry-out privileges?

Yes.

Yes.

And are you applying for limited separation?

Yes.

Yes.

All right.

So what is this?

This is a restaurant?

Yes.

All right.

What's the capacity?

Uh 150.

150.

Oh.

Uh 100.

105.

105.

Yeah.

Okay.

Where are we at?

East 71st Street.

All right.

Um, what is your policy for checking IDs?

Uh servidores loseros deben checkout at persona until the servir alcohol.

All the servers should check the IDs before they serve any alcohol or any drinks with alcohol.

So you're gonna have an all check all IDs?

Yes.

Okay.

Do you have a written policy?

Then this one escrito esa?

Yes.

Okay, good.

Uh you understand how to purchase alcohol and let all of your employees have to have the correct permits.

Yes.

What are your uh sorry?

What are the hours of operation?

See.

Domingo, lunes, martes, yuez, uh.

Okay, so Wednesdays were closed, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday we're open from 9 to 830.

And then Friday and Saturday we're from 9 to 930.

Okay.

Are you working there as well?

Uh I am one of the servers.

Your server.

Okay.

Um this is gonna be a limited separation restaurant, right?

Like this como limite separado.

Do you have a bar?

Okay.

Focused on food.

Are you already open?

Yes, the most ability.

Yeah, yeah.

How long have you been open?

Like a year.

Okay.

Okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, we have a motion.

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve, I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR 4943379, Sullivan Hardware and Garden Inc.

Doing business as Sullivan Hardware and Garden at 6955 North Keystone Avenue.

Peter.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, we need to call some things.

Nope.

Thank you.

You've had a license before, haven't you?

Yeah.

We have a beer of one.

So this is the Sullivan's Hardware at uh 71st in Keystone.

They've had a two-way permit since I believe 2017, so almost a decade.

They've never had a violation.

And we're uh applying today to um like obtain a three-way license for the premises.

If I remember right, these were like cooking classes, grilling classes you were having.

Yes, now we actually have a full restaurant there.

Fantastic.

Well, what's your policy for checking IDs?

Uh 40 and under if somebody looks appears to be 40.

And you're aware of how to purchase alcohol and that all of your employees need the correct permits to serve alcohol?

I am okay.

Have you had any violations under the two-way permit?

No.

What are your hours of operation?

We are open uh well, the stores open eight to eight, and then uh nine to six on Sunday.

The restaurant is open eleven till eight.

Okay.

And then eleven to six on Sunday.

Did I ask you about the capacity?

What's your uh 44?

44?

So I do just family dining.

Yeah.

What type of food?

Really good food.

Yeah.

Uh sandwiches, uh just kind of a you know, normal menus.

Some of the stuff is cooked on you know on the grills and stuff that we sell.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, any further questions from the board?

How is the alcohol transaction processed when someone orders?

Um well, we have tape table service, and we also have a window.

Okay.

All right.

Uh with that, I'll accept the motion.

I make a motion to approve.

Make a motion to approve.

I'll second that.

All those in favor say aye.

Good luck.

All right, thank you.

He didn't do anything.

Yeah.

And you still gotta pay.

Calling RR 494 3408, Oishi Sushi and Ramen Corp doing business as Oishi Sushi Ramen address 600 Massachusetts Avenue.

I've screwed up a couple of pairs.

Morning.

Uh Nick Rose with Bradford Riley.

With me, I have Kenlea Browning, um, owner for Oishi Sushi.

Um, Miss Browning has uh about 10 permits, I think, currently right now, um, across the the state.

Um and um you've had permits since is it what 28?

Eight, yeah, is it for a number of years?

So she is a well-established business owner in Indiana.

Um across her locations, I think she in all of her history she has eight violations.

Um, the most recent being in 2023.

So um eight's a big number.

Uh but over 20 years and almost 20 years and 10 locations.

Um it's she she does take it very seriously and addresses those violations when they occur.

What was the latest violation for?

I believe the latest violation was a manager questionnaire um issue back in 23.

Or wait, 24 out in playing field.

Okay.

How was it resolved?

Um, here we go.

24.

Um, sorry, I should make sure I had the right one.

So it was actually looks like it was um terra hote 24 and terror.

Uh uh Coon County and Zionsville employee permits in 2025.

Um that one uh I withdraw my chair.

I didn't own it in this when that happened.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, I I didn't own that anymore.

For a long time.

Well, what is your policy for checking IDs?

Uh we shake everyone that look under 50.

Can you articulate the process you use for making sure that your employees do have the correct paperwork?

How do you how do you what process do you use?

Uh east restaurant I have the manager.

So uh I do have the like sometime that my uh uh business partner and they did all the time.

So they do the training and they have the alcohol uh permit.

Okay, the employee permit.

So what happens to uh an employee if they do serve a minor?

Okay, we fired and fire them?

Yeah, okay.

All right.

Do you have a manager's questionnaire on file for each of your locations?

For the manager.

Yes, yes, I think we have.

I don't have one.

There's not one in this application.

Who will be managing the location?

There's two other partners associated with this location as well.

And she they all the time.

One of the partners will be uh uh the poem meet also.

Okay.

So the locations will all be managed by ownership.

Yes.

So in that case they don't have to have a manager's questionnaire.

Not as long as they're listed on the application.

Okay, got it.

Okay.

All right.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

I make a motion to approve.

Motion to approve a second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh looks like a like Roman numeral somewhere.

Okay, that's what I've got.

Calling R R four nine four three four two two II construction L L C doing bus uh address location pending.

This one's requested a continuance.

All right.

Anyone need a comfort break?

Yeah, I would love one.

We're gonna take a five minute comfort break and be right back.

This is the tire.

Is it tyre or she's a data one actually trying to figure it out?

Oh really?

Yeah.

I didn't know you had talking to sitting up here.

I know when I said that I'm like, I wonder if you even know this.

No.

Really?

Yeah.

You already got tickets?

Yeah.

No, I'll be straight.

I'll be screaming.

It's amazing.

I mean, they think this uh picking a litter of these exact limits, but I'm like successful.

I mean, you got a lot of only using.

I mean, I couldn't want to have our name.

I don't remember which is not crazy.

Does he have a replacement?

Okay.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

So much money in Python.

I know, yeah, I know.

Miss Howard's back in Indiana.

This is back.

Shadow or scooter.

Catch around.

That's another couple of texts.

So we're by a couple of days late.

Well, her doctors are here, so that's why she had to get back.

Is she still trying to get there?

I mean, she's got a granddaughter who lives out there.

She lives there full time.

So it goes out there to take care of them.

So she ain't getting around at all.

Um I told her I couldn't take her up.

We had a basketball game.

I know I got your text, but I will not I would let her retreat.

Uh I just think she's more uncomfortable.

Yeah, put a ramp in and built a ramp on the front porch so it's not stepsable or she gets right along.

She does.

Call the meeting back to order.

Calling the meeting back to order, all the same rules that apply to the first half still apply.

Moving on to renewals of violation.

Calling DL four nine three two one three three.

Raj Suru Inc.

Doing businesses.

Raj Suru Inc.

Address thirty-eight oh one East New York Street.

This application has a remonstrator.

Okay.

Just make sure the green light is on on that mic.

I had multiple violations.

I gotta see if I have this one.

Yeah, we didn't see.

It just has a remonstrator.

Oh, was everyone here at the beginning of the meeting in the corn end?

Yes, yes.

All right, so you have a remonstrator, so we'll give you a chance to explain to us what's what you're trying to do.

We'll hear from the remonstrator why they're here.

Honestly, we're not a hundred percent sure as to why the remonstrance was requested in the first time.

I'll stop here.

Since there's no violation to discuss first, we'll start with the remonstrance.

Oh, okay.

All right.

And this is a renewal without violation with the remonstrator.

So Chris.

Good morning.

Uh my name is Chris Staub.

I am the elected president of the near East Side Community Organization, which is an umbrella over 19 neighborhoods in the near east side of this city.

Uh on our February docket, we'd seen that uh this application was coming back up for a renewal after several violations from back in 2024.

Uh I know there were several instances of minor violations, but the one that stood out was uh the sales to a minor.

Uh the nearest side takes that very seriously.

Uh at the time of your February uh hearing uh I had asked for remonstrance uh so that I could bring this to the Grace Tuxedo neighborhood, which is the neighborhood most greatly affected.

Uh we had a conversation uh regarding this license and as it is considered a grocery store in the neighborhood.

Uh it's actually more of a convenience store, and we heard uh items from the neighbors of what they see and what they are aware of in the community uh around this, and the biggest problem seems to be loitering, and uh some of our neighbors do use your facility and have noticed that they don't get carded.

So that was one of the reasons why we wanted to have this conversation.

So we're not asking for their license to be uh vacated, we're just asking that they remain on a probationary one-year license uh due to the fact of the violations that they had from back in uh April of 2024.

But did we give you a one year?

Yeah, we you give it a I don't remember every case.

So you're currently under a one-year renewal?

Yes, yes.

And that's what you want to make sure stance, Pat.

Just one more year, yes, that's all we're asking.

But you're currently under one year.

Yeah, yeah.

So we're this would be the renewal following the their one year renewal.

There hasn't been a full year since we heard that.

Sure.

We heard them on September September 2nd.

So um so first of all, I'd like to thank Mr.

Staub for taking my phone call ahead of our meeting.

We had a productive conversation.

Uh happy to uh discuss the matter with him.

So I I knew you know what his request was coming in.

Um as far as the the violations go, there were two sets of violations that were issued a week apart um a couple years ago.

One was for a SAC violation, minor, you know, excise going in with a youth, and then if you remember there was the issue where the Mr.

Atool's father who was there at the time, he's older gentleman, doesn't speak English well, and there was a hindering violation related to that.

And so those are the two sets of violations that we got cleared up in late summer last year.

Um as far as um, you know, set I mean, so they they've had one issue, I mean that they've had one violation for sales minor.

Um Mr.

Staub also asked about you know, could we would we enter into talking about the loitering entering into a um trespass agreement with IMPD?

And talk to my client, they've actually done that as of 2023.

They've had a trespass agreement with IMPD, and I shared that with him.

Um so you know what's a trespass agreement.

So that is an agreement with the police where you're basically giving them um more authority to come onto your your premises and um enforce loitering and get people that you know are are loitering um out of there.

Yeah, now does that require the ownership to call IMPD and say, hey, we have people out here loitering?

Does that just give IMPD the ability to see it and address it?

Um I'm pretty sure it's both uh both of them.

If they see a person loitering there for too many times, or as they see a person there too many times, they're allowed to issue a trespass order to them.

But and they're also times where we have to call them as well.

Tiffany, yeah, based on my experience with it, it is up to like when they're patrolling like their discretion to add that to their patrols.

Yeah, but there's no because I've been in a community space before where we attempted the same thing, so that's where my ex uh experience comes from, but it was up to the officers, you know, jurisdiction whether or not they would come with your discretion, whether or not they would come by.

Um, so it's kind of up in the air.

Deputy Dumont.

Yeah, sure.

It's a good faith agreement uh with the police department that says we can act on behalf of the owner as an agent of the property.

So in both cases.

All right.

So you know, we got these violations a couple years ago.

We worked through them.

Um, we've I've engaged with Mr.

Stabb to actually see if we can connect our um my clients with the Grace Tuxedo neighborhood, um, and just make sure that there is good communication um between the sides, and just want to make sure that you know, I mean they they want to be good community partners.

Um respectfully asking for a a full renewal, um, but it's a respectful ask.

So do you oh I I just want to make sure we ever the board remembers correctly.

So we originally heard them March of last year.

We had the hindering and the sales to minor, but the hindering I think was more concerning for us, and we actually initially denied them and and then it was it it was remanded back to us and we heard it again in September.

So we did give them a one year in September, heard the violations, but it's only been not quite, it's not been a year yet.

Yeah, thank you for the refresher.

Um so with that being said, do you have documentation from your from the neighborhood group you represent about their their thoughts or their feelings like a letter or letter head or petition or anything like that?

I do not have anything for the neighborhood other than the conversation.

Okay.

Well, we are we don't plan to hear this again if I'm understanding correctly.

We don't plan to talk about their renewal until September.

No, we of this year.

We just talked about it.

We just talked about it in September.

Because of the origin they originally up for renewal last March.

But because of the denial, the process being remanded back, and then by the time we we heard it the second time and gave them a one-year renewal, it was in September.

Okay.

So their renewal would naturally come up when it's had we heard them in March and gave them a one year last March, we would hit the one year mark.

But it's it was in September, we gave them the one year.

So it's been a little over six months.

Got it.

So their one year is technically like runs out in September.

No, no.

It would run out, it's it it's it would run out with this renewal if we don't renew the one year.

If we don't give them another one year, if we give them a two-year today, they get a two-year renewal.

Got it.

It's just because the process took a while.

Oh, does that make sense?

That it makes sense now.

The expiration date stays the expiration date, even if we continue it and it gets delayed.

Got it.

Okay, it makes sense now.

One last thing I would just suggest is that if they were to get a violation between now and their automatic renewal year next year, they would be scheduled for the local board.

So it's really just skipping the local board schedule for the purpose of a remonstrance, not actually.

I mean, you would still be called before a local board for your renewal if you were.

Well, you're supposed to be.

It doesn't always get caught.

Ricardo's pretty good.

Uh I'd like to hear from the older.

Oh, sorry, what was that?

I'd like to hear from you.

Uh about what is we we have we've uh since our our renewal in September, uh, we haven't had a single violation.

We've kept to all the rules.

We we've had excise officers come on site as well to make sure everything's good.

We've allowed them into the back and everything, no hindering or anything like that.

We just want to work with the ATC and the card and everybody still.

Huh?

Or your card and the folks that need the card.

Anybody under the age of 40, yes.

Well, for me, we don't have any violations to review at this point.

And I do understand the conversations that you've had with people in your community um and appreciate you being here, but we don't have like an overwhelming voice coming from community um like as far as documentation is concerned.

So for me, I don't feel like the renewal should be denied.

I would agree with you if we had given them a one year in March.

Yeah, but because we did it in September that's true.

They haven't had that full probationary year.

Yeah.

Um, and with the hindering report, the fact that it was bad enough that we initially denied them.

Yeah.

I would prefer to do another one year just to keep a closer eye on them.

Yeah, yeah.

I feel comfortable with that.

And if you if you do nothing wrong, if you're making sure your employees check the IDs, if you're enforcing all the ownership policies that you've put in place, we won't have any problems.

I I feel uh in line with you.

And also with good faith, we would like to join uh Nesco the near he's a neighborhood uh association that he's that would be fantastic.

We'd be welcome.

And you know, to show that we want to be community partners with everybody.

We think that's a great idea as well.

All right.

Well, this took care of itself then.

Um thank you for the representation you give to these side.

Thank you for communicating professionally and meeting them in the middle.

Uh this sucker's taken care of.

So I'll make a motion for a one-year renewal.

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Motion carry.

Thank you.

Thank you, buddy.

Calling RR 4905850.

My Inc.

doing business as Silk Show Club.

Address 3512 Madison Avenue.

I apologize.

I thought this obligation selects any violations.

Um ID is remonstrating against this location, and we're gonna request it attenuates.

Okay.

Is anyone here representing Monomy?

Monomy.

All right, so continue.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Oh, wait, wait.

We're I don't know if that violation has been settled yet or not.

It was she, yeah, it was settled like late last week.

Okay, yeah, she had to communicate with that.

So we will continue that one.

Okay.

That it for you?

That's us.

Thank you.

All right, thanks, everybody.

Calling RR4904646, Buckeye Beverage Corp doing business as Connors Pub, address 6331, North Ferguson.

This one has pending violations, so it will be continued.

Okay.

Calling RR 4917130, Joe HN Inc.

doing business as time out lounge, address 6243 Allisonville Road.

Come on up, sir.

All right.

Let's start with uh who you are and the relationship to the business.

I am John Byer, president owner of the timeout lounge, John Incorporated.

All right.

Do you know why you're here?

Not exactly.

What there was a viol.

I got a letter uh that said there was a violation that I needed to show up today.

So I have not actually seen what what it is.

Okay.

Well, you I mean it okay.

You would have seen it because you've had to have paid it for us to be here.

So there was a violation in January of last year.

Oh, absolutely.

Okay, yes.

Now you've got to be able to do that.

I'm aware of it.

Yes, yeah, yeah, that way.

Yeah, what happened?

What was the violation?

The violation was serving uh a minor with an excise officer present.

So compliance check.

Yes, it was.

How long have you had your license?

Twenty-one years.

How many violations?

Three, two of them from my mother.

Uh one of them was me that day, two days after my mom died, actually.

I just totally missed it.

Oh, you knew right away that I missed it.

We have policies I you know.

Well, how did you know right away?

I like it.

Uh, because I've been in that sting before.

I know when they come in like that, and and I mean, I walked back to another server from another place, I said I just messed up.

I know I did.

And uh, yeah, now I take full responsibility, and we do have policies.

In fact, I can tell you since that day, yeah.

I don't there's nobody I don't haven't seen that doesn't get carded for sure.

Good.

Yeah, so you've had a long uh successful track record.

Uh we have.

I mean, since COVID, obviously, it's been a little rough.

Uh I'm pretty much it uh in front of the run of the place, so and being there.

So well, Mr.

Byron says you were very polite and respectful during the incident.

Uh you're handling it professionally, good track record.

I'll let the rest of the board ask any questions they have.

Do we have any other uh previous violations on this uh permit?

Look, I did notice like in the report it said your permit had expired.

Correct that you've gotten obviously you're getting that taken care of.

Yeah, do you have how many employees do you have?

Is it just you?

Me, yeah.

You're the only one there serving.

I'm the only one.

I mean uh a gal named Phyllis 77 comes in and helps me every once in a while.

She's been there on and off through about four owners.

So uh, you know, it's just we're just a little neighborhood bar is all we are.

What are your hours?

Uh we are open on Sunday from uh well on football uh noon to nine.

Uh Monday through Thursday, we're open from four to ten, and Friday and Saturday we're open from two to twelve, one o'clock.

Okay.

So they had two other violations, one in two thousand nine, one in twenty eleven.

And the 2011 was sales to a minor.

Yep.

Okay.

Got it.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck.

Thank you.

All right.

Calling R R 491-2302 core of Indiana Enterprises Inc.

doing business as Rock Lobster, address 820 Broad Ripple Avenue.

This one requested a continuance.

Okay.

Calling DL498-4284, Shima Brothers Inc.

doing business as Chima Brothers address 4921 West 71st Street.

Chamber Brothers.

It was paid June of 2024.

This is just a minority quite.

Yeah.

So we'll move that one to the auto rentals.

Yeah.

Calling calling RR 491 9643, Wingman V LLC doing business as Buffalo Wings, Grill and Bar address 2514 Lake Circle Drive.

Oh just here when I mobile support just in case.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

I wasn't aware of Lake Circle Drive.

Why'd you come?

Uh I was I was told to come for uh uh B dubs in Franklin Johnson County.

No, that was we took care of that last week.

Oh, okay.

Well that's why that's why I'm done.

Okay, that's why I'm here then.

Yep.

Well, we'll get to it.

What is your name, sir?

Uh Cody Meyer.

Cody, what's your relationship to the business?

I'm a district manager.

Okay, so you don't know why you're here though on this one?

Not on this one.

I do.

Uh I hope so.

So this was a uh SAC check, failed sack check.

Um the employee did not check the ID, served abudweiser to the minor who was there.

Um violation was issued pretty straightforward.

It was around noon in April last year, I believe.

Cody's district manager.

I mean, if you just tell the board a bit about the policy for checking IDs and then what happened to the the employee who served and training and so forth.

Yeah, so our policy is immediate termination.

Uh we do ID anyone under the age of 40.

Uh, we do mystery shops throughout the year to monitor the to monitor that that is happening throughout the year in a non-official manner.

Um, so I can assure you that that employee is no longer with us.

Uh we do have a policy regarding responsible alcohol service that's in our handbook, and all employees uh over the last 10 months have signed off on that electronically twice since then.

So they're up to speed on every what our policies are regarding alcohol service.

Yeah, I mean, all the policies are in place and you're dealing with humans, right?

So things things happen from time to time.

We don't have a uh when is the last time they had a violation?

Just says here they don't have a I'm not I'm not sure, Officer Sunnya.

Do you have that?

20 2018, but it was deferred.

Okay.

Yeah.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, I'll accept the motion.

Motion approved.

Motion to improve, all second, all those in favor say aye.

All right, good job.

Thank you.

All right, thank you.

Very good.

Calling R R 493-4685, more cheers, LLC, doing business as teeny, address 717 Messages Avenue.

It's the patio.

Is that still for we've never heard that violation?

That has never come back up.

No, I can address it.

Go ahead.

Okay.

I didn't realize we were on the on the agenda for that.

So Alex Intermill attorney for more cheers, DBA teeny, Officer Sunier and I from the uh comments there.

There was an issue with um floor plan change or alleged floor plan change.

It goes it, they've got a an outdoor seating area that's kind of been a parking spot on Massav.

Uh it's been there for quite some time, but we could not find a signed approval of that floor plan.

We thought that we had it.

XIS didn't like what we had off in Prosecutor Wignall, issued the violation, stuck with it.

We paid it, and then since then the law has changed right to allow the patio as it exists.

So long story short, or I'm kind of rambling on here, the violation was paid, the floor plan was updated.

We were addressing the entrance to the patio before the law changed so that it would be compliant to allow patrons from inside to take a ver to be served outside, and then how does that that work?

But like I mentioned, the law has changed to simplify things, and so we're compliant, and I apologize.

And I apologize, I didn't realize that we hadn't heard that violation.

It was so long ago.

We had lots and lots of conversations over this patio, which is why I chuckled a little bit.

But um so prior to me taking over this position.

Um this patio had existed, they were under the assumption or they were under the assumption that it had been approved.

I couldn't find any documents anywhere that it had been approved.

When at the time when I came out to inspect it, it did not qualify, which is was my suspect.

I suspect that's why it had never been approved.

Um they may have had somebody out there that said you're gonna have to change it, whatever the issue was, it had never been approved and added to their floor plan.

Um as Alex said, since then the law has changed, so and a patio doesn't have to connect directly to the premise anymore.

It can have a distance of a hundred feet.

Yeah, yeah.

Um so as it sits now, it would be approved.

Okay.

It's almost like grandfather day.

Yeah.

All right.

Um do we have a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve.

Second, all those in favor say aye.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR 493290, La Casa, De Los Moriscos, Mexican Grill No.

LLC doing business as El Rincan de Susi Central, Bantero, 2709, North Change.

Okay.

Good morning.

Morning.

This is Susanna Sanchez, the owner.

My name is Stephanie Elizondo.

I am her daughter.

I will be translating for her when needed.

Were you here at the beginning of the meeting?

Were you both sworn in?

Yes.

Um tell you what, Amy, I'll let you get started.

I'm gonna read this real quick.

Okay.

Uh, do you know why you're here?

There was a violation.

I'm so sorry, I don't know the exact date.

Okay.

I can tell you the date.

You know what the violation was?

Trying to pull it up.

Yes.

Um, so we actually only have four people that are allowed to serve her, myself, and two of our waitresses.

We actually closed that day, so both of us left.

Waitresses were not there, they weren't working.

Her boyfriend stayed, um, they were doing maintenance, they were painting outside and inside.

He was whose boyfriend?

Her boyfriend.

Okay.

He did not have an employee license, so he was not allowed to serve.

And he did serve one of his friends came in and he served the friend.

Um so he like rang up the transaction and everything.

And he was not supposed to.

He does have um an employee license now.

He's still not supposed to serve, but he he does have the license now.

Okay.

This okay, this was this happened during Ascent detail where it's it's one of those details with exercise IMPD, fire marshal's office, health department, um, they go out together as basically like a task force.

Um, and that's why they were there that evening at midnight, quarter after 12.

At the time we also were renting um the kitchen, so we had a separate kitchen staff that was not ours.

Um, they were also there preparing for I think they had an event the next day.

They are no longer renting, they're no longer with us.

What about the smoking ban signs?

Have you guys put up the smoking ban signs and stuff?

Okay.

Everything, everything was taken care of.

Oh, there's an issue with the kitchen not being open.

The kitchen, I mean, the the place, the whole thing was was closed.

They were there preparing food for their event the next day.

I believe they had some issues with that as well.

The food was thrown away.

Um bar was not open, the kitchen was not open.

So the the but the door must have been on locked.

Yes, because one of his friends walked in, so yeah, the door was unlocked.

There were two patrons sitting at the bar, a couple, I believe.

Those are the friend or those different people.

No, the friend.

I don't know.

I can't remember if we eventually we drove back.

So I remember us walking in.

I don't know if there was anyone else um from like the kitchen staff that was there.

But I do remember because I know these people, I do remember the the couple that was at the bar.

What time do you close on Saturdays?

Uh we only open Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

We open at six, close at three.

Um I don't remember what day that it was a Saturday.

But it was during I don't know if I'm sure you guys are aware, there has been um some political climate that thanks to that.

A lot of people aren't really going out.

Um Saturdays for us, usually we have sixty to a hundred people.

That day there was no one, that's why we closed um for a Saturday.

It was very, very slow, it wasn't worth it for us to stay open and pay our employees.

Um that's we're starting to get better now, but at the time that's that's the reason we close.

Got it.

So this is their boyfriend.

Is he still employed with the business or is he still involved with the business?

He's involved, um not employed, not employed, but he's involved, he helps us with like maintenance when things need to be done.

Not employed though.

So what is the fix for because it sounds like he stepped out of line, the business was close, and he you know, judging from what's written here in the report and what you're sharing.

So what is the fix to make sure that this doesn't happen again if y'all have another slow day, he's not just doing his own thing.

So he did get his employee liquor license.

Um but we don't he doesn't stay.

We haven't closed um again, and he doesn't stay by himself.

He's he knows he shouldn't he shouldn't be serving.

We don't like I said, we don't really have it's only her and I at the bar, and then we have waitresses.

So everyone has their liquor license.

Everyone's trained.

He at the time was not trained, so there was no there was no reason for him to have served anyone, even if it's his friend.

Okay.

You understand that you have to keep records of the employee permits.

That was another issue.

Yes, and she she has copies.

Okay, and copies of the training certificates, all of that is on file in the office or somewhere where it can be reached when asked for.

All of your signs smoking signs have been posted.

Yes.

You understand that anytime you're open serving alcohol, your kitchen has to be open.

You have to look at food.

We've been in contact with the whole department as well.

Okay.

With that in your issue, I'm sorry.

And your issues with the health department are all correct.

Yes.

With that, I'll accept a motion.

Motion to approve.

I'll second that.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Calling R R 4937.

Sorry.

Calling RR493737.

Guachos Fire Express LLC doing business as guachos fire express address 906 kills.

We have a suite 320.

Hello.

Good morning.

Were you scoring in at the beginning of the meeting?

Yes.

Okay.

All right, Nick, who do we have?

Uh Nick Browser Graph and Riley with May Ruby's.

Um, Trek Nago, one of the owners for Gauchos.

Um, this is one of the stalls at the garage food hall.

Um they've been there for since opening six years ago.

Um you'd like to kind of talk about what the violation was and and what you guys have done since.

Sure.

Um, so this happened in October of 2024.

We just hired this um employee, and he was like a week only uh to be hired, and our manager stepped out of the court of the counter.

So he came the employee came and served um a minor.

And this employee hasn't had didn't have any license yet because he was hired a week before.

So after that we decide to um train every retrain again all of our employees just to make sure that nobody does the same thing anymore.

Yeah.

What about the policy around having your permit?

Do you have a new requirement for how that happens?

Correct, correct.

So we are making sure that no one that doesn't have a license stayed in the I mean that everybody has to have a license that they stay in the in the store.

If we hire someone that is new, they cannot be in front of the store.

They have to be back in the kitchen.

So we're making sure that that happens.

Okay.

Is this your only location?

Uh for this restaurant, yes.

She does have two other permits, um, one on 82nd Street and then one down in Greenwood.

Um at 10 Cuts Brazilian State High House.

Any violations on those?

Yes, we had a violation on uh the one on 82nd Street.

And that was because it was served they serve a minor.

The same thing.

Was it a compliance check as well?

Yes.

And that one it they are planning to close that location, but that would be up for renewal um uh this coming year.

So that one has not been addressed by the board.

So you have multiple license, but you have a uh right now you're in a bit of a routine where you're getting hit with uh serving a minor.

So you've talked about retraining.

Is there anything else you could be doing?

They they have to take the class.

Now we had actually asking them to take the class on on the computer so they know what they have to do.

And um, yeah, you you're right.

It happens there, but that is not the same.

The same location exactly.

It is the same owner.

Okay, you're right.

Um do you do any secret shoppers where you send someone in?

We are gonna start doing that actually, especially on the south side in Greenwood.

We're gonna start doing that because it's a uh steakhouse, so we need to make sure that okay.

Any further questions from the board?

Hearing none, do we have a motion?

Most to approve.

Motion to approve all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, ma'am.

Thank you.

Calling RR493 8160 in zone bar and grill LLC doing business as in zone bar and grill.

Address 8311 North Michigan Road.

This one requested a continuance.

That's a weird spot.

Calling RR 493 8992, Indy Supermart Inc.

Address 2040 East Washington Street.

This one is still pending revocation with the commissioner.

Okay.

Calling RR4939420, Upland Brewing Company, Inc.

doing business as Upland Brewing Company, address 4939 East 82nd Street, suite 100.

They have a pending violation will be continued.

Okay.

Calling RR493-9618, Iguana's Tuckeria Restaurant Corp doing business as Iguana's Tacaria Restaurant address 2912 Maywood Road.

Yeah, Sean continue.

Calling DL493124, Saraga North LLC, doing business at Sarraga International Grocery address 8448 Center Run Drive.

You ever been in there?

Yeah.

It's gorgeous.

It's fun.

Yeah.

Hello.

Hello, good morning.

Were you all sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

I was.

I don't believe he was.

Okay.

Go ahead and raise your right hand for me.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

I do.

Thank you.

Good morning.

Um members of the board, Mark Webb.

Uh, on behalf of Saraga North LLC.

This is the um uh big grocery store that's located on uh uh east 86th Street.

It's kind of just south from Costco.

Um wonderful international grocery store.

This license used to be at their big store on 38th.

Um so I have with me um Jun Sung, who is the son of the owner and who is working and we're transitioning him into taking over management of that store.

And I also have with me Brad Nam, who uh oversees both of the Saraga stores, and we're trying to get him a little help here.

Okay.

So what happened in March of last year?

We had a SAC violation.

Umfortunately, the woman involved did not card.

So what they did was they immediately took all their cashiers and sent them back through retraining.

Um problem was this one woman, Isabella, um, was having a hard time getting it.

And so they had to make a decision and let her go.

They have always had um interview policies in terms of what they do and what the rules are.

Those now since then have been reduced to writing.

So we have specific policies.

Um the goal obviously is that all we ever do is have our name read off in good behavior every two years.

Um this is a regrettable incident.

Um I've sat here a while and I don't remember any other violations.

No, they they they've been real, they run a really tight ship.

This one, and again the this this cashier, you know, maybe this just wasn't a job for her.

And she doesn't have it anymore.

We don't have her, we don't have to have let her had to let her go.

Didn't want to, it's hard to get people to work, but you know gotta follow the rules too.

Yeah, you do so um that's kind of where that's where things are.

We'd be happy to answer any questions from the board.

I'm interested.

Uh, what percentage of your sales is alcohol?

Um, honestly, it's very little.

I would say it's it's around five percent less than that.

Yeah, I would bet.

Um well, you've got a big opportunity.

You're gonna take over this business and run it for however long, but uh you need to understand that you know you have a responsibility to make sure your employees follow these laws and these policies, and if so, you can keep that license and continue on a great tradition.

You clear on the rules and responsibilities that come with having that license?

Absolutely, any further questions from the board?

I'll accept the motion, motion to approve.

Motion to approve, all second, all those in favor say aye.

Aye aye, aye, good luck, sir.

Thank you so much.

Calling RR493 9956, RC Legacy Holdings Inc.

Doing business as Bubba's bar and grill, address 10030's washing the street.

There's two of them, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I was getting very safe, it's not pretty boring so far.

Yeah, yeah.

Yes, uh, we might have just been out.

Oh, Greg.

Greg Gendric for having riding with me as Ray, Giolli and Larry.

I'm sorry, I'm very, very hard of hearing understood.

Yeah, uh, I'll keep looking at him.

Okay.

Well, sir, what's your last name?

What's your last name?

Camillera.

Um Mr.

Camular, are you aware of why you're here?

Do you know why you're here?

Yes.

Why?

Why are you here?

What was a violation?

What's that?

What was the violation?

Uh I think there were a couple of things on there.

Um there was a not having copies of the permits in my office.

Uh there was not having the rules on the pool tab machines.

I don't have all of the I didn't study up for this, I'm sorry.

Well, that'd be a lot to remember.

Uh, I no, I mean I took them all, I obviously took them all seriously.

I think the the main one was though um I I misinterpreted the the rule change or the law change with regards to uh alcohol leaving the building.

Um we were putting caps on the uh on on if people had a drink and and then they were leaving, we would allow them to put a gap on it and go.

I I didn't understand that that was only if we had a carry-out license.

So long have you been doing that?

I'm sorry.

How how long have you been allowing people to leave with drinks to have a cap on them?

Well, it was from I I I I think officially from when the law changed.

I wanted when was that Jan January of July of 24?

Maybe 25.

January of 25 until we were cited for it and we stopped immediately.

So this is my call again.

We've already heard the first violation, it's just the second one.

The one with the opening.

Okay, okay.

Oh, okay.

We weren't allowing people to come in and take stuff out.

It was only if they had already ordered a drink and they were trying to leave, we would allow them take it with if they put a cap if it was capped, and then you had some signs missing.

But gaming signs were were down missing.

Yes.

We were cited for that, but uh there was a sign on one of the machines.

Uh with the rules.

Looks like it was a warning.

Huh?

You were issued a warning for that?

Warning.

Warning, yes, yeah.

I don't know.

Ray has since he's sold the establishment as transfer on file, which maybe heard next month.

Oh god.

I think he's kind of realized there's a lot more to this is a lot of work.

Uh huh.

Well, and if it's not done, it becomes dangerous for the neighbors.

It's a lot of work, and in three years I hadn't been able to really find a bar manager that uh, you know, uh that that was reliable enough to be able to trust so it dedicated a lot of time, and I it was too much for me.

All right, so here's solved you've solved.

Yes, yeah.

Transfer's on file, and keys are on file.

That helps a bunch.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, with that information, do we have a motion?

Motion to approve motion to approve all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Great, thank you.

Thank you.

Calling RR4941.

State too far.

Call you.

Calling R R494 1113 State Street Pub Indy LLC.

Doing business State Street Pub address 243 North State Avenue.

Hello.

Were you were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting?

I was, yeah.

And who are you, sir?

Uh, my name's Mark Tester.

I'm the owner of State Street Club.

Do you know why you're here, Mark?

Um assuming because of a violation I got last year.

Do you know what the violation was for?

I do.

What?

Um I had an employee who I mean, how in depth do I have to get?

Just tell me what happened.

Basically, we got like um violation because I had an employee who uh was working door and sold a controlled substance to an excise officer.

Okay.

Well, yes.

I was as I was very surprised.

So my first thought is you know, that's not the first time, right?

The very first time they've tried to sell, they get hit with an excise officer.

I'm gonna guess this has been going on for a while.

I can't confidently answer that.

I really don't know.

I was totally unaware of the situation.

They were there on a complaint.

It was they were doing the investigation because of a complaint.

And I know when you were here for your last violation, um, that report says that they initially were in there for the for the complaint for the sales of drug sales.

I was not aware of that, never heard that.

Um my last violation was as far as I was under the impression of and what I was charged for was because we had a patio door that we normally had open.

So basically, like right by our front door, there's a patio uh door to our patio, which for like the preceding eight years had always just been open.

Um, and then what we got a violation for was the excis came through and basically was like you can't have this door open because if people go out the front, uh they could just like leave instead of going into the patio, which would be like the you know, why we had it open, and then they basically were like you have to keep this shut and then route people through the bar, um which we then did.

But um, as far as why they were there initially, that was never brought up.

Um, and I was there.

Well, they wouldn't have brought it up that day because it was still an ongoing investigation.

Okay.

Um how long did this employee work for you?

Um about a year.

What happened when you had the conversation with the officers when they took when they issued the violation?

How did that conversation?

The most recent violation.

Yeah.

Um the officers came in with the detective.

Um they asked if the employee was there.

Uh I said no.

They took me outside uh into our back patio where we talked to them.

Um they didn't give me any details about what was going on.

Um I asked what was going on, and the detective basically told me you can fire this employee, or you can keep them on and you'll be considered complicit.

But they didn't give me any other information other than that.

Um I spoke with the employee the next morning, he told me what I did, and I fired him on the spot.

Um did you call the officers a liar when they first told you?

No.

You didn't?

No.

I what would I have called them a liar for it?

They didn't tell me what they didn't tell you that you're getting a violation for an employee selling drugs inside your bar.

No, they didn't tell me why I got the violation or why I was getting the violation.

I asked multiple times what it was about.

So they they called you, just helped me walk me through it.

They called you.

You answer your phone, it's a number you don't know.

They didn't call me.

Oh they just showed up.

Oh, they showed up.

Yeah, they showed up while I was working.

I was DJing at the time.

I wasn't working that night, I was there DJing, so I was in the sound booth.

Door guy came up, told me XIS was there.

I walked up and was kind of like we had people in the bar, so I was like, hey, can we have this conversation out of the back patio?

They took me out to the back patio and basically like stood in front of the back door while they told me all this stuff was going on, and I was like, I don't I don't know what's going on, what's he in trouble for?

They didn't tell me anything.

They refused to give me any details.

Um they then asked me when he was working next and what his phone number was.

I was like, I believe he's working this weekend.

I was like, I don't know his number off the top of my head, my phone's in the bar, and then they basically reprimanded me for not knowing my employee's phone number by honor.

Um so I mean I was cooperative.

I told him when I believed he was working next, but I would need to check the schedule.

Um, but throughout that entire conversation, no one ever told me what he was being accused of or anything.

The only thing was that they said it was something serious, and that if I didn't fire him, that I would be considered complicit.

So that was at the that was the day they came and talked to you at the bar.

Then several days later, or at some period later, they one of the officers called the bar and spoke or went to the bar, you were not there, an employee, they asked an employee to contact you.

Yes, I was contacted and spoke on the phone with an officer.

Yes, that was the day that they came in and tried to arrest a person who was not the person they were trying to arrest, which I also have on video.

And that and during that conversation, were you told what the violation was for?

Um I don't recall exactly.

I was on the phone, and this would have happened at like one in the morning.

I had just played a show in Iowa on the touring musician as well.

Um so I don't remember the exact details of that.

I did tell them that I had fired the employee um the day after that they came the first time and told me that he was in trouble and basically told me like if you fire him, you're good.

Um if you don't fire him, then we're gonna assume that you knew what was going on.

And I was literally like, what's going on?

Like, I was like, what am I being accused of?

Am I being accused of anything?

And they said no.

So and then the next time I talked to them on the phone, they were basically like, I don't understand how you couldn't know about this, which is pretty speculative.

So that this phone conversation happened at 7 30 in the evening, not late at night.

Uh 7 30 in the evening.

April 25th, 2025 at 7 30 p.m.

April 25th.

I don't recall that phone conversation.

I did get called on April 25th.

I don't know about that.

The only time I really remember talking to them on the phone when I wasn't there would have been a Friday night because it was one of our club nights.

Um I'm reading I'm just reading the report.

Yeah, totally.

The officer says I explained to the owner tester that the business was receiving a violation.

I explained to Tester what the violation was for, and the owner tester immediately called me a liar.

That's I explained to Tester that I would not be arguing with him about it over the phone and that the violation would be left at the premise.

Yeah, I that didn't happen.

I mean, I don't know what I would have called him a liar for.

I mean, is there any context to that?

Like if he's explaining the violation to you, he's explaining what the charges were, which would have been public.

Well, I wouldn't have sentenced for drugs.

Yeah, and I the employee told me what he did the next day, and I fired him for it.

So why would I be calling an officer a liar after I think why I'm asking you?

I don't have the answer for that because I don't recall doing that, and I don't feel like I would jeopardize myself in that way.

The only phone call I got from them, like I said, that I recall was while I was in Iowa.

I got a phone call from them.

They showed up to try to arrest this former employee.

They went in there and tried to cuff a customer of mine.

People were all around them, being like, This is not the guy.

They kind of like scrambled, panicked, and tried to leave.

My sound guy called me, put them on the phone with them.

That's the only phone call where I wasn't there that I remember having with them.

Outside of that, I believe I was there the other times that they showed up.

How were you made aware of the violation?

I was made aware of the violation because they showed up in person, right?

Like what I explained before when they came and said that my employee was like in a lot of trouble.

Um, they needed his contact information.

We went outside to talk.

I asked multiple times what he was in trouble for.

Um that day, they didn't tell me anything, but the next the next day I talked to my employee and was like, what's going on?

Met up.

He confessed to me what happened and what he's in trouble for.

I fired him on the spot.

How often are you in the bar?

Um, I'm in the bar almost every time we're open, either bartending or running sound.

Um according and according to this report, the the office the undercover officer said that this drug transaction happened at the bar on the bar top out in the open.

I don't know anything about that.

But you're there every day.

I'm not there every day.

I mean, I've been running this bar since like 2018.

But you just said you were there whenever it's open.

I said I'm there almost every time it's open.

I'm either bartending or running sound.

If I'm running sound, I'm like, I could be anywhere in the bar.

But I absolutely did not know that this was going on.

And I don't know anything about this happening on the bar or what.

Like But that maybe is part of the challenge I have.

You know, doorman with code to line up drugs for patrons.

If your point is I didn't know, well, there's a part of that, it makes sense, but um these are your employees, man.

They're not they're not worried about you.

I know that.

I fired him the next day.

I paid the fine on his behalf.

As far as I'm concerned, that dude owes me a thousand dollars.

And you and him.

Well, exactly.

But I'm saying, like, I didn't fire any of this.

Like, I asked for questions, I asked for information when they first showed up.

They gave me none.

So I had no idea what was going on.

I had to talk to that employee myself, and I did exactly what they told me that I would have to do.

So from there, like here's my problem with your version of the of what happened.

I have a couple issues with it.

I understand why when they first went in there looking for this employee, they didn't tell you exactly what was going on because they were looking for someone that was getting ready to be arrested for felony drug sales.

Yeah, I understand that.

The problem I have is when the report says they called and spoke to you on the phone and explained exactly what you were being charged with.

Like I we we've been doing this 20 years.

We all explained violations almost exactly the same way.

You would not have been issued a violation without being told what it was for.

Right.

I'm saying when if they would have talked to me on the phone, if I would have been like so, basically, conversations I had with them, there was a few conversations where they basically implied that I knew about this.

So I could only imagine that the only reason I would have been like, you're lying, is if they went hard on that.

Because there's just no way.

I care so much about this place.

I spent all my time over the pandemic keeping this bar open, giving grants what was under other ownership.

I mean, we provide like a community space for all kinds of different people, different subcultures.

Like I would never jeopardize that.

This place is like my livelihood.

How many other violations do you have?

Um, I believe just the one that I got uh before this, where it was for the uh the doorway uh to the patio not being.

How long have you had the license?

Uh I took over ownership two and a half years ago, so I guess it would be like two November ago.

So two years, two violations.

One of them with narconics involved.

I and I I gotta be honest to you, I have a hard time.

If you're if you're there as often as you say you are and you're as involved as of as much as you say you are, I have a hard time believing that you didn't know that this was going on.

If when it's done open openly on I'm not there every single time that we're open.

I mean, like, I don't there's no way, like well, even if let's say this, your your employees don't respect you enough to even worry about it.

That's why you got fired.

I had no idea this was happening.

This is like all speculative.

We're not gonna I mean I'm not gonna say that you did.

Uh you say you don't, and I can't prove that you did or don't.

Um we've got a report in front of us.

Those are the facts.

You've had your license for two years.

We have two violations, and one of them is pretty significant.

So for the board and uh sake of time, I'd say uh the furthest I could go on a limb is a one-year renewal.

I'm aligned with the one-year renewal.

I think that there does need to be some internal work done to tighten up procedures, hiring, all of that, so that we don't have to do this anymore.

Um drug use is a rampant issue in our community.

Um yeah, I just think that more due diligence from you as an owner needs to happen to ensure that this doesn't take place.

Um, and whatever you need to do to build a better relationship with law enforcement, um, so that there's not this contentiousness if you while we're having discussions about things that are going on, your employees, whatever else.

Um, but I feel aligned with uh you Tyler is like the furthest would be a one year.

I don't doubt that you love the place.

Um have questions whether you can manage it or not.

Does that make sense?

Uh yeah, I mean I understand what you're saying.

It's one thing to love something and have a passion for it, but it's another to have the ability to actually manage it and run it.

No totally and I understand that perspective.

I mean I don't hear full accountability so if somebody said they wanted to deny you I'd probably vote that way.

Yeah.

I did I did fire the employee and pay the fine.

Yeah but you also say what you didn't know.

I mean as the as the owner and you're also saying you're always there.

So I mean what I didn't say I'm always there.

I said I'm there most nice.

Yeah you make it seem like you're there and you you you uh you sh you're there enough where you should know what's going on.

And you look at your attitude now it just stinks.

I don't I will I if I could deny you by myself I would and this yeah and I remember this attitude from the last time we had you here for the other violation and there wasn't a whole lot of accountability taken then either.

Um and that was a floor plan issue so um I know exactly what was said when we did when I did the inspection and what you were told about the patio because I was there and I said it.

Um so I I'm I'm more aligned with Peter.

Somebody needs to make a motion I'll make a motion.

I'll make a motion for a one year renewal.

Thank you.

Is there a second?

Second now there's this motion and a second all those in favor say aye.

Aye.

So we're split those opposed all those opposed aye aye so we're split two to two here.

Rare.

I mean the board usually can put you know this is a unique case and you're not doing yourself any favors I'll give you that.

So what this means with a split vote is that it'll go to the commission.

The commission will review the testimony from today um they'll look at the exise reports as well and they will make a decision um they could do one of three things they could well actually it's a split vote.

So they could do a couple of things.

They could approve your renewal they could deny a renewal or they could remand it back to us and ask us to hear more information on it.

But whatever they decide you will be notified of their decision and if you don't like their decision you will have the opportunity to file for an appeal.

Okay.

Okay.

Enjoy the rest of your week Peter I need your reason oh there we go I got you think it's moral high left yeah the whatever those are work.

Yeah the applicant does not maintain high and fine reputation that's one number number one I'm going with high and fine and allowing criminal apps to take place on the license promise.

Actually add that to mine.

Okay.

What was that?

State street?

Yeah.

Uh okay calling RR4941143 Southern Brass Indianapolis LLC doing business as Terra Wild Chubb Brazilian Steakhouse address 8487 Union Chapel Road.

Yeah suite 120 20 morning again all right Al for the record Alex etermill and Ronaldo Piazza and this is uh a violation as you know this was an employee permit and failure to post there was uh according to the report an anonymous complaint made about um servers or employees not having their permits excis came out and did the investigation discovered that there were in fact I think two employees they weren't working that day but that did not have their server permit and Ronaldo I think you also did not have your server permit as the manager.

All of that has been fixed employee permits and training are uh on file at um terra gotcha.

Ronaldo can talk about how he checks and make sure that everyone has employee permits and the training that it's up to speed.

Importantly um also Ronaldo has his uh employee permit and although it doesn't show on the permit page for the ATC we have filed the manager's questionnaire for Ronaldo to list him as the manager.

The first form that we filed there was a problem with the signature that has been refiled so hopefully that will be updated online um soon as well but um Ronaldo if you could just explain to the board briefly about how you check employee permits to make sure that we don't have this issue yes uh we we got a ready to use these and then I know uh I was the one I don't have it but that was uh uh just moving to Indianapolis and then uh I gotta do this but the the first thing we we hire people and to make sure we uh uh uh get the liquor license and uh uh the check whatever sing one and they put them file in the issue we did not have in file these was I was that was the the the big mistake and then and we haven't file you have a single is the question they had it they didn't have it in the file they didn't have it at all.

um soon as well but um Ronaldo if you could just explain to the board briefly about how you check employee permits to make sure that we don't have this issue yes uh we we got it very serious these and then I know uh I was the one I don't have it but uh was uh I just moved into Indianapolis and then uh I got it is very serious but uh the first thing we we hire people and to make sure we uh uh uh get it the liquor license and uh uh the check whatever sing one and they put them file in this year we did not have in file these was I was the the the big mistake and then and we have your file every single is the question they had it they didn't have it in the file they didn't have it at all one didn't have it and the only didn't have the file and so and so now just to clarify some new hires before they take the floor and they're on Terra Gasha's gotta have that employee permit and the evidence in hand and then the file before and how are we checking expiration dates?

We haven't file we and then we we you you check every month uh we did or the manager yeah okay this is the easy stuff right this is the management the paperwork exactly the fact that you didn't have it doesn't help much no that sticks out to me I'm trying to understand how we come to be that a manager's running a restaurant doesn't have an employee permit.

Yeah I I interested it but then we just opened a restaurant and I got it for completely for God and it was little busy this was I responsibility I was big mistake yeah I did.

It's all taken care of yeah not gonna happen again no you understand uh the I know you're not from Indiana but you understand there we have specific rules and laws regarding alcohol that you have to comply with I understand have you taken the class yep so you have your certificate yeah I have it.

Okay.

All right any further questions hearing none do we have a motion approve motion to approve I'll second all those in favor say aye.

Aye thank you very much thank you thank you.

Well I small calling RR493 6804 New Living Investments LLC doing business at Shadow Lounge and Restaurant address 2380 East 54 Street a lot of people here I'm afraid we had a couple that got a theater action out of us were you sworn in at the beginning of the meeting no ma'am all right go ahead and raise your right hand for me.

Do you solemnly swear from under the penalties for perjury that the answers that you've given on your application or any answers you might give to any questions asked by this board to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I do thank you.

Sir what's your name for Greg you want to introduce your client sure this is Fred Leachman who's the operating manager over at um shadow lounge.

Leechman yes who's the owner of that place um Stefan Butler.

Okay where's he uh he's not here right now he's out of town oh he's out of town yes sir but what is one operating day today's MQ on file for it.

Okay.

Why don't you tell us what happened so we had a I had a new employee he was he ain't been there for two weeks uh exise sent in um we have been open a couple months and exciser sent in a uh uh a minor with the excise officer and he uh didn't card him he only been there for two weeks uh he was terminated on the spot um because he had just took the class and he just got out of training too so he was he's from out of tea he was from out of town he's from New York he had just came here for a job asked for a job we had just trained him the week before it was a morning time it was like 11 a.m and he had came in um we was looking for morning it's hard to find morning uh bartenders because of this very slow during the morning time so uh he came in for a job uh been there about two weeks got out of training one week the second week uh swind uh exiser sent in and he didn't uh card um the young lady uh so uh we terminated him on the spot pretty sure you gotta be 21 in New York to drink too so you should have known better right yeah but yeah but that's the and you know he complained he he was very upset about losing his job but the problem was is that he had just took the uh safe serve class like that week before so he should have knew the you know and then I I honestly told everyone that excis was coming so I expected him to come so I don't know why he wasn't uh wasn't ready.

It was early in the morning though so but unfortunately he cost the company and uh so I had to let him go.

Yeah it reads in a report like he was just trying to get through the transaction.

Yeah um so with your other employees what kind of training are they going through because of course they go through the what's legally mandated but as far as their training with you as a manager we require you to check everyone ID regardless of 40, 50, 60, 70 but normally we do have a door guy um so and uh it is always an assisted there too so now uh there's someone at the door to check IDs now uh regardless of whatever time of the day it is when you come in there's someone there to check your ID uh even before you get to the bar.

So now uh there's someone at the door to check IDs now.

Uh regardless of whatever time of the day it is when you come in, there's someone there to check your ID, uh, even before you get to the bar.

And you know those door met guys have to have employed.

Yes, yes, so everyone has a permit.

Uh well, it's my servers there too, so his servers uh there.

It's a it's a full restaurant.

We open 11 a.m.

every day, so uh that law changed not very long ago.

Oh, yeah.

Oh no, I'm I stay up on the laws.

I watched this board meeting uh every time we come on.

Um I know exactly what goes on every time this board comes up, so I know what's going on.

Uh everyone has a uh a permit.

How uh how long you had your license?

Uh a couple years now.

But this one had happened literally like three, four months after I opened, so it was very, very new.

Uh we was very new, uh opening May of last year.

He was a new worker.

Okay, we're on the list, and you're right, they do come back.

So uh I want to see you successful.

So get your employees to check the IDs.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Uh any further questions from the board?

Airing none.

Do we have a motion?

Most of motion to approve.

I'll second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Good luck, sir.

Thank y'all.

Now start with ma'am.

You're right here in the front.

Why are you here?

Um violation on speedway.

Speedway.

Speedway, LLC 4120, East Southport Road.

Oh, speedway.

Speedway.

You know, that continued from is that continued?

So it was this was one that was continued three times and denied it.

T Slime Kenny was here.

We know someone in licensing, we they want to climb up the time.

Let them know that was first.

So it went to the commission, we filed a motion, asked for it to be remanded and set it for consideration today.

What was what's the permit number?

It is 4991005.

It showed on the permit page being separate today.

Yeah, it's on my list.

Okay.

I just did I didn't tag it as one of the violations.

Okay, I found it.

Sir, do you mind taking your hat off for me?

Sure.

Well, appreciate you.

So we've got a violation that we can talk to you about, second check, but also wanted to dip the board.

This well, okay.

I don't think I'll vote on this one.

Oh it's not speed was speedway.

Yeah, that's what threw me off.

But all right.

So for the record, Alex and Reno again, and with me.

I mean Drake Young, I'm the area leader over the speedway gas stations.

I'm Wade Smock, I'm the current manager at that speedway 4373.

So the first is the violation.

It was a survey of alcohol compliance assignment check.

Um then they have seven speedway, which is owned by 7-Eleven.

They have policies in place that they was checking by 40.

Um, and this employee did not do it.

We've heard that story many, many times.

Um trained and then don't do it.

The employees terminated.

Um, but then importantly, um, there was a way maybe you can explain what you did to achieve.

Uh you know, there's a register and the registers have to be set.

Okay.

What is allowable to be processed without ID and what is.

And speedway's policy is you you guard everybody.

We have the computer set to where you cannot bypass ID, but he had his computer set to where you could as I bypass ID.

And it's uh as soon as he was relieved and I come in, the first thing I did the very second I walked in the doors and went straight to the computer and I changed it to where it can no longer be used that way immediately.

And I was actually shocked that he had it that way.

Can he change it back?

It can be changed back, yes, but it has to be done by a manager.

It does.

It has to be done by a manager.

And there's some code or some yes, my sign in codes.

So it's just an oversight, his never got set the correct way.

Is that he either set it in?

Let me address this one.

Um a few months prior to that.

We changed our operating system from a blue cube system to a RIS system where Blue Cube, it was automatic that we had to set ID for alcohol with the new system, it gives the managers accessibility to maneuver that around a little bit.

So we did submit that into the corporate office, and they are working on a fix for that.

How long have you had your license here?

It's been there for quite a while.

I ran this location for 10 years prior to my so at least 12 years, and this is gonna be the first.

That's what I was gonna guess.

Yes, your first.

Yeah.

Whose responsibility is it to appear before this board when they're when there's a violation?

So that that's the next part in what I handed out to you.

Um ultimate the reason why there was a miscommunication and internal policy issue about getting the notice that it was served at the store to corporate in the compliance uh department.

What I handed you is a summary that has gone out to every store in Indiana.

Um it's now a corporate policy, I believe, for all of their stores nationwide.

Um, and you can see highlighted any notice, it goes, it gets filed to zip line, which is like an internal document management reporting um portal or system that they have that then gets to the compliance team so that the compliance team knows hey, we had a violation, or we need to show up at this local board hearing, and then they can coordinate with local council, and then managers, area managers to make sure that we are showing up when we're supposed to be there and not uh failing to appear.

Something that uh the speedway takes very seriously.

I apologize for this oversight, um, but it has been addressed.

Um, Commissioner McGinn, when we were asking um for relief to come back and be able to explain this to the she reacts specifically that we give you details about um what's been done, and that's that's the exhibit that I handed you.

So we don't anticipate that this will be an issue moving forward.

All right.

Uh any further questions from the board.

I feel comfortable.

All right, I'll accept the motion.

Motion to approve, all second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye, aye.

Motion carries.

Good luck.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, sir.

And the toboggan.

Why are you here?

With uh for renewal for action enterprises in Indianapolis.

I wasn't sure if I needed to be here.

Yeah, but you don't have you on our list.

It was a renewal, you don't know you don't have any violations.

Are you aware?

I don't think so, no.

Yeah, so I bet you're part of the automatic so you can take a look real quick.

Okay, Action is the name of the company.

Uh Action Enterprises of Indianapolis.

1105 Crossback Street.

We have two permits last violation of 2017.

Were they separate today?

Um that's a 210.

So two separate permits.

Yeah.

Where are they?

The permit numbers.

Well, I see an album uh three-way permit.

Oh, here it is.

Yeah, and both two tens.

Okay, yeah, your renewal without violation.

So the only time you have to appear before the board is if there's a violation during your renewal period.

Okay, um, you'll always get that letter that notified you that'll say if you've had a violation you need to appear.

Um if you haven't received a violation, you do not need to come to the board.

Okay.

Save yourself a few hours.

Yeah, okay.

Uh well I know I have some violations on the other, so I'll be back.

I guess when that gets up for renewal.

All right.

Okay, have a great week.

All right, I'll make a motion to approve the automatic renewals.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

I make a motion to adjourn.

Is there a second?

Second.

Second.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Meeting's open.