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Indianapolis Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - June 4, 2025

Other Meetings (I)Wednesday, June 4, 2025
BodyIndianapolis, Indiana
SessionOther Meetings (I)
DateWednesday, June 4, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:17

We'll just give you like a bright and get on there.

0:34

We kind of can report their glasses.

1:06

Yeah, right.

1:07

That has much improved.

1:30

They were into an argument.

1:33

And the button would be a good idea.

1:37

They have a lot of things.

1:39

Yeah, and you can say like funding or just getting more surface for that.

2:28

Oh yeah, we bring it over to that.

2:54

We're gonna be running a few minutes late.

2:56

Uh we're waiting for one more or two to get a quorum.

3:00

As soon as we get a quorum, we'll call the meeting to order here.

3:12

I don't think it's a cute, but it's better than we try.

3:17

I just assume get it over there.

3:19

Yeah, really.

3:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:22

However, that would give me more time at the end of the store.

3:25

Yes, yeah, that's what I think.

3:28

Yeah, it's a drawing room giveaway for it.

3:39

Yeah, the city council.

3:41

Okay.

4:10

Okay.

4:12

Yeah.

6:22

So I think another thing she is mentioned.

6:33

I think concerns with United States.

6:55

Okay.

6:56

All right.

6:56

With Kristen's appearance, we will now have a quorum.

6:59

We may have one more commissioner join us, but uh since we're a few minutes late, let me go ahead and call uh the June uh Indianapolis Historic Preservation meeting to uh order.

7:12

Uh we have two sets of minutes that are in your packet that have been uh provided.

7:19

Are there any comments or corrections to the minutes?

7:22

If not, I'll take a motion for their approval.

7:27

Approval Anson, get a second.

7:30

Thanks, David.

7:31

Uh all those in favor, please signify by saying aye.

7:35

Aye, any opposed?

7:36

Thank you.

7:37

Uh we have one old business item.

7:40

Uh we're getting close to having no old business items, but uh we have one one case twenty twenty-four COA one eight eight A Wood Place and Oli Khan at the address of eight five eight Wood Place Middle Drive is here to make his monthly update.

7:56

Ollie, please come forward.

7:58

Uh Grace, would you please uh swear him in?

8:02

Raise your right hand for me.

8:03

Do you see where to tell the truth and nothing but the truth?

8:06

Say I do.

8:07

I do.

8:07

Thank you.

8:08

All right, Ollie, give us a an update, please.

8:11

Yes, uh my name is Ali Khan, and I'm here for nine five eight Wood Replace middle drive.

8:17

And the good news is that we have finished everything which was supposed to be part of uh plan part A.

8:27

And we had updated the staff and uh hopefully they've been there and have seen it.

8:34

So everything is done before time.

8:38

Uh we had a continuation till August 6th.

8:42

Uh, but we are done.

8:43

Okay.

8:44

I'll hear from Shelby then.

8:46

Shelby.

8:47

So I literally just got back right before um so tomorrow I'm gonna do some comparison to the historic imagery that we have, the drawings that were approved to make sure everything looks okay.

8:58

And then if that's the case, I'll sign off on that final exp inspection, and then um the case will be closed out for this part of it.

9:05

So we'll be good to go.

9:06

So part A will then be done, and Allie won't need her report on part A anymore.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████46%
Procedural███████████████████████24%
Zoning and Land Use███████████████████19%
Miscellaneous███3%
Building Code Enforcement███3%
Public Engagement██2%
Public Works1%
Affordable Housing1%
Community Engagement1%
Summary of Proceedings

Indianapolis Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - June 4, 2025

This meeting of the Indianapolis Historic Preservation Commission (IHPC) covered approval of minutes, updates on ongoing cases, designation of a new hearing officer, and public hearings on several applications including expedited cases, new construction, and enforcement actions for work done without prior approval. The meeting was called to order shortly after 10:30 AM once a quorum was established.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes from previous meetings were approved unanimously.
  • Resolution 2025 R01 designating Caroline Emmacher as a hearing officer was approved by voice vote (all ayes).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Heather Sullivan (1114 East Ninth Street, Cottage Home neighborhood) spoke against the expedited application for 1306 East St. Clair Street (2025 COA 086), noting that the applicant did not attend the neighborhood conservation committee meeting and that the neighborhood ultimately voted not to support the project. Several neighbors were also unaware of the proposal. The case was continued due to the applicant's absence.
  • Darrell Gunyon (applicant for 5814 Beechwood Avenue, Irvington) provided extensive testimony on work completed without approval, arguing economic hardship and seeking a certificate of authorization. Multiple neighbors and a city-county councilor submitted letters or spoke in support of retaining the work.
  • Justin Leinenbach (applicant for 1808 North Delaware Street) explained that he replaced a front door without prior approval, citing the poor condition of the old door. He expressed regret and requested approval for the steel door.

Discussion Items

  • Old Business Update – Case 2024 COA 188 (858 Wood Place Middle Drive): Ali Khan reported that Part A of the approved work was completed ahead of the August 6 timeline. Staff will inspect and close that portion; Part B remains continued to August.
  • Expedited Cases – Five cases were listed: 2025 COA 086 (continued due to community opposition and absent applicant), 2025 COA 111 (moved to end of agenda due to commissioner recusal), and three others (2025 COA 132, 134, 137) were approved by a single motion with no objections.
  • New Application – 2025 COA 151 and 2025 VHP 005 (1827 North Pennsylvania Street): Jason Wolf proposed a carriage house on a vacant lot to house the owner’s dependent brother. Staff requested more traditional detailing, but the commission found the transitional design acceptable. The commission approved a certificate of appropriateness and two variances (secondary dwelling unit without primary structure, and owner not occupying as primary residence) with stipulations, including a recommendation to adjust the balcony railing for a more open appearance.
  • Work Without Approval – Case 2024 COA 356 (5814 Beechwood Avenue): Darrell Gunyon completed window replacements, a front door, siding dormers, an octagonal window, and a sun porch without permits. Staff recommended approval for some items (e.g., railing, door replacements, greenhouse demolition) and denial for others (e.g., first‑floor windows, front door, rough‑sawn siding, sun porch). Commissioner David Baker noted the property is classified as “non‑contributing” in the Irvington plan, which allows greater latitude for changes based on neighborhood context. After discussion, the commission continued the case to July 2 to allow staff to re‑evaluate using the non‑contributing guidelines. The applicant agreed not to sell the property before that hearing.
  • Work Without Approval – Case 2025 COA 140 (1808 North Delaware Street): Justin Leinenbach installed a steel front door without approval. Staff recommended replacement with a wood door. However, the commission found the door visually acceptable and noted the previous door was not original. The commission voted 5‑1 to approve retention of the steel door, with the stipulation that no further changes be made without approval.

Key Outcomes

  • Resolution 2025 R01 passed unanimously to appoint Caroline Emmacher as a hearing officer.
  • Expedited cases 2025 COA 132, 134, and 137 were approved as read. 2025 COA 086 was continued to July 2. 2025 COA 111 was deferred to the end of the agenda (no action recorded in transcript).
  • 2025 COA 151 and 2025 VHP 005 were approved subject to eight stipulations and one note for the COA, and approval of both variance requests. The applicant was asked to work with staff on the balcony railing design.
  • 2024 COA 356 was continued to July 2, with the applicant agreeing not to sell the property before that date. Staff will re‑evaluate recommendations based on the property’s non‑contributing status.
  • 2025 COA 140 was approved (5‑1) to retain the steel front door, with a single stipulation prohibiting further changes without staff approval.
  • Meeting adjourned after all business was completed.

Meeting Transcript

We'll just give you like a bright and get on there. We kind of can report their glasses. Yeah, right. That has much improved. They were into an argument. And the button would be a good idea. They have a lot of things. Yeah, and you can say like funding or just getting more surface for that. Oh yeah, we bring it over to that. We're gonna be running a few minutes late. Uh we're waiting for one more or two to get a quorum. As soon as we get a quorum, we'll call the meeting to order here. I don't think it's a cute, but it's better than we try. I just assume get it over there. Yeah, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. However, that would give me more time at the end of the store. Yes, yeah, that's what I think. Yeah, it's a drawing room giveaway for it. Yeah, the city council. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I think another thing she is mentioned. I think concerns with United States. Okay. All right. With Kristen's appearance, we will now have a quorum. We may have one more commissioner join us, but uh since we're a few minutes late, let me go ahead and call uh the June uh Indianapolis Historic Preservation meeting to uh order. Uh we have two sets of minutes that are in your packet that have been uh provided. Are there any comments or corrections to the minutes? If not, I'll take a motion for their approval. Approval Anson, get a second. Thanks, David. Uh all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye, any opposed? Thank you. Uh we have one old business item. Uh we're getting close to having no old business items, but uh we have one one case twenty twenty-four COA one eight eight A Wood Place and Oli Khan at the address of eight five eight Wood Place Middle Drive is here to make his monthly update. Ollie, please come forward. Uh Grace, would you please uh swear him in? Raise your right hand for me. Do you see where to tell the truth and nothing but the truth? Say I do. I do. Thank you. All right, Ollie, give us a an update, please. Yes, uh my name is Ali Khan, and I'm here for nine five eight Wood Replace middle drive. And the good news is that we have finished everything which was supposed to be part of uh plan part A. And we had updated the staff and uh hopefully they've been there and have seen it.

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