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Space Allocation Committee Meeting: January 15, 2026

Other Meetings (I)Thursday, January 15, 2026
BodyIndianapolis, Indiana
SessionOther Meetings (I)
DateThursday, January 15, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:00

In the the drive folder.

0:02

There we go.

0:03

I think I did it.

0:05

No, we're not.

0:13

Yeah, there are.

0:15

You just have to open the click share folder and run the executable file.

0:19

Right.

0:20

Yeah, because we have a barco and it's definitely not the T.

0:24

Well, the PowerPoint's kind of irrelevant.

0:26

It's just a picture of uh the space for the lease, the lot.

0:35

Um I think we can interrupt they didn't have a presentation last night, council, so I think we'll be fine.

0:40

Yeah.

0:43

Ben, are you okay?

0:44

Are you ready if we I think Councillor Delaney's coming?

0:54

In the meantime, I can introduce you to our new asset and building operations manager.

1:00

This is David Klamanoff, making his way to Indy from Maryland.

1:05

So he'll be at all these meetings moving forward.

1:09

Welcome.

1:11

Thank you.

1:12

Do you have Maryland place on the car?

1:14

Yep.

1:15

Then I used to pull into your parking spot so I could back into mine, and now I gotta do an optional hours turnaround.

1:24

I've had it in a different parking space every day that I've been here this week.

1:27

So tomorrow maybe situation.

1:30

So we are growing the tax rolls here in Marion County one higher.

1:35

I have this.

1:36

And then oops, I should have.

1:44

Then you should hit the button.

1:45

Yeah.

1:48

Usually there's a little thing that comes up.

1:50

Ready to share.

1:52

And the button.

1:57

Unable to share because the base unit cannot detect any display.

2:04

Yeah, I'm here.

2:08

Well, here's the base.

2:10

And it's on the council.

2:15

Okay.

2:16

Um here's why.

2:20

Cord has to be plugged into box.

2:24

Cord fell out.

2:25

That reminds me of uh movie airplane.

2:28

Yeah, I feel less dumb now.

2:29

Well, it's good thing I run technology.

2:32

Yeah.

2:34

CTOY.

2:39

Great.

2:40

Fantastic.

2:41

You're welcome.

2:41

You go ahead.

2:42

Oh, I can sit with you.

2:43

Yes.

2:47

Okay, seeing as how we have a quorum, I'm going to call the order, space allocation and real estate advisory committee meeting January 15, 2026.

2:58

I'll ask the uh board members to introduce themselves.

3:04

Joseph O'Connor, I'm the county assessor.

3:09

Megan Bucksetge Director for the Department of Metropolitan Development.

3:12

Candace Harris, City County Council CFO.

3:17

Brian Delaney, City County Council District 2.

3:21

And I'm Brett Winiger, Deputy Controller for Real Estate and Procurement.

3:26

And I am filling in for the controller today.

3:28

Oh, I'm sorry, Kelly.

3:29

Please.

3:34

Okay, thank you.

3:35

Sorry for that.

3:35

You're sitting at too far of a distance here on my own list.

3:37

I can scoot over.

3:38

Okay.

3:39

I uh appreciate everybody coming today.

3:41

We'll start off the meeting with uh entertaining a motion for the approval of the minutes from our June 18th, 2025 meeting.

3:51

Second.

3:52

Motion and second.

3:54

Do I have uh all in favor?

3:57

Signal to saying aye.

3:58

Aye.

4:00

Opposed.

4:02

Minutes carry.

4:04

I'm an I'm not judge.

4:09

Before we move on to new business, I'll allow you to introduce yourself.

4:12

Hi, I'm AJ Davis.

4:13

I'm the judge in D27 in Mary County.

4:16

And I'm on the executive committee.

4:18

Thank you.

4:19

Now we'll move on to new business, which is the IMPD lease at 4150 Keystone Avenue.

4:24

Again.

4:25

Yep.

4:26

Thank you, Acting Chairman Weiniger.

4:28

Uh so just one piece of business on the agenda today.

4:32

It's a new lease, we'll say, even though I'm PD's been in the space for a while at 4150 North Keystone, and we have Deputy Chief Whether to uh explain the need for this lease.

4:44

So uh the Marion County uh city county government has existed in this space for uh 20 plus years.

5:00

Uh we had uh the Marion County Sheriff had a footprint there, uh the prosecutor's office, the youth emergency services, the uh child advocacy, uh Marion County has has had a variety of things there.

5:08

Uh when we merged uh the sheriff and IMPD, IMPD put uh various units in that building, and then when the CJC opened, uh some of the Marion County Sheriff, well, all of the Marion County Sheriff units left that facility.

5:26

Um the prosecutor's office left that facility, and then the child advocacy.

5:32

So we are the last remaining city county uh government entity in that building.

5:37

This is the old mainscape building.

5:40

Uh it's right at a hundred thousand square feet, so we are approximately a 30% occupant in the building.

5:48

Um we consolidated down uh two other satellite facilities.

5:53

We were in the juvenile center and we were in the Julian Center.

5:57

So we have uh consolidated three into one.

6:01

Um I think it was Councillor Delaney last night asked me at the council meeting um uh if this was a savings.

6:09

Absolutely it was.

6:10

Price per square foot.

6:12

This is uh we are getting this space at below market rates.

6:15

Um we have been there for over 20 years.

6:20

We had a three-year lease.

6:22

The first time IMPD signed the lease was when the CJC was closing and the county auditor um was no longer going to have the lease, so we had our own lease.

6:33

We did a new three-year lease.

6:36

It was approved by the council, by the public safety board.

6:39

This board didn't exist at the time.

6:41

Um, and we followed all the proper protocols.

6:46

We entered into a three-year lease with an option to renew.

6:50

We did renew in August of 24, so we're still under term with them, but we needed to expand, get more space, and we needed uh construction and tenant improvements.

7:04

So we did around a hundred, hundred and twenty thousand dollars in tenant improvements that was built into the new lease.

7:12

But to do that, the the landlord wanted a new five-year contract to uh blend out those tenant improvements.

7:21

Uh so we are under lease now, but we're calling this a new lease because five years is longer than the original three-year term we started with.

7:30

So we have uh no, it's it's a little more.

7:34

Um so we were at 1385 a square foot uh when under the old lease, uh originally in 2021.

7:45

We kept the same rate, so we're still paying 2021 rates, so it's a little different because we renewed it current terms, knowing we were gonna do this to blend in the tenant improvements.

7:56

Our new rental rate is 1450 a foot, uh, and that is inclusive of the carpeting they put in, the new walls they put in, the walls they took out, and all of the other work they did.

8:10

Do you still only have 30% of it and you're renting the whole place?

8:13

No.

8:14

Correct.

8:15

We're at 30 percent.

8:16

The only thing we did was we grew by about 700 square feet.

8:21

Um, and what we did, we were 26 and some change.

8:25

Now we're at 27010, and what we did is we consolidated and condensed the existing units that we have.

8:35

We made them be less spread out.

8:37

Um, and then they absorbed five new units into that 700 square feet.

8:45

So we were far more efficient in the use of the 27010 than we were of the 26 347.

8:55

So does the 1450 include all the tenant approvements?

8:58

Everything.

8:59

This is an all-in lease, maintenance, uh janitorial, all things.

9:05

We also received uh broker's opinion of value for fair market rate for this area, and it's 15 to 17 dollars a square foot.

9:12

So getting a good deal.

9:16

Ben with that said, I believe this lease was also negotiated by 92C or assisted with that's correct.

9:22

Thank you.

9:22

How many officers do we have there, Chief?

9:27

Wasn't ready for that one.

9:28

I'm sorry.

9:30

I can tell you every unit that's there.

9:32

Um, I mean, if I if I'm if I'm 10, 15, 25, I'd bet 75, 60 to 75.

9:46

Okay.

9:46

And you still have the north one on college.

9:49

Correct.

9:50

Not that far from there.

9:51

So sort of, yes.

9:53

42nd in college is uh used to be our old north district or our old east district, but that's our community engagement.

10:01

But that's actually up on the block um to go out for redevelopment.

10:06

So we are we are there temporarily, but the plan is to redevelop that corner and the southeast corner for the fire department parking lot.

10:15

So that's not related.

10:17

The question that was asked last night at the council is this is not related to our North District at Washington Park.

10:24

Washington Park, which is not far from here, uh, is what the council gave us money to do um all the planning work and move forward on a new North District, which that will be brought forward in the coming months by our team and the controller for moving forward on that.

10:46

But that but district and community engagement, none have anything to do with each other, but they're all in play right now.

10:58

Any other questions, comments?

11:02

Okay.

11:06

I just wanted to comment that we heard from um I and PD last night at the public safety committee, and this did I believe it passed unanimously out of committee last night at the council.

11:17

It did.

11:18

And we have satisfied all steps in this process, public notice, signatures, open meetings.

11:25

We've we've followed the that would be an awfully big amount of officers to bring back to this building with cars, parking, uh downtown, etc.

11:38

And uh the CFO for the council and the counselor was there last night.

11:42

I I addressed that issue.

11:44

We we are bringing downtown district back into this building as part of the restack.

11:50

Uh but once we do that, we have no more space in the east wing.

11:54

We're full.

11:55

And beyond that, there are so many units that are at Mainscape that citizens need to go to as victims and witnesses and bringing them here where there is no parking, and you have to go through a metal detector.

12:07

It's just it's not welcoming for that.

12:15

All right.

12:15

Uh hearing no other questions or comments, I guess I'll entertain a motion of support of this advisory committee.

12:21

I'd like to make a motion to approve.

12:23

Thank you.

12:23

Do we second all in favor?

12:26

Aye.

12:27

Opposed?

12:28

Motion carries.

12:30

Chief, I also want to extend my apologies.

12:32

This advisory committee was revamped and instituted in order to give support to the council.

12:38

So that normally you'd go to the council with this board's approval, uh, particularly with two counselors as voting members, and uh the timing obviously didn't play out for that.

12:46

So then sorry.

12:50

Yeah.

12:50

No, no, it's it it went okay last night.

12:52

It was I think it did, yeah.

12:55

There's a clause in the existing lease that says a new lease shall be done within six months, and that seems like a lot of time, but with all the negotiations and everything, it was it was a quick turnaround.

13:06

Very good.

13:07

Ben, um, we only had one topic for new business, so I guess we can go into old business if you have anything.

13:12

Uh nothing, I have nothing else on the agenda.

13:15

Just for the next meeting, uh, we'll have a similar presentation like this for the clerk's uh records warehouse.

13:21

Um, another lease that's over 250,000.

13:25

Um and then next time we'll give some updates on some city county building improvement updates that also involve Chief Wethington and they hopefully they'll be moved into their new space.

13:41

Uh I can't speak to that right now.

13:45

Yeah.

13:45

Yeah.

13:46

I better adjourn this meeting before it gets more expensive.

13:49

Um with that said, I think our next meeting is March 19th.

13:53

Um, any other comments from the advisory committee?

13:57

Okay, hearing none, I will take a motion to adjourn.

14:00

Move your second.

14:02

All in favor.

14:03

We are adjourned.

14:05

Congratulations, you get to make your 230 meeting.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Summary of Proceedings

Space Allocation and Real Estate Advisory Committee Meeting – January 15, 2026

The Space Allocation and Real Estate Advisory Committee met on January 15, 2026, from 2:00 PM to 3:00 PM in Room 260 of the City-County Building. The committee approved the minutes of the June 18, 2025 meeting and voted unanimously to approve a new five-year lease for the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department (IMPD) at 4150 N Keystone Avenue. Old business items, including capital projects and City-County Building improvements, were deferred to the next meeting on March 19, 2026.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of June 18, 2025, meeting minutes: Motion by Brett Wineinger (proxy for Chair Abigail Hanson), seconded by Brienne Delaney. Passed unanimously.

Discussion Items

  • New IMPD Lease at 4150 N Keystone Ave: Deputy Chief Kevin Wethington presented the need for a new five-year lease for IMPD at the former Mainscape building. IMPD occupies approximately 30% of the 100,000 square foot building (27,010 square feet, up from 26,347 square feet – a growth of about 700 square feet). The new lease consolidates three satellite facilities into one and includes $100,000-$120,000 in tenant improvements (carpet, walls, etc.). The rental rate is $14.50 per square foot, all-inclusive (maintenance, janitorial), compared to the prior rate of $13.85 per square foot (2021 rates). A broker’s opinion of value placed fair market rent at $15-$17 per square foot. The lease was negotiated with assistance from the Office of Finance and Management. The committee noted that the lease had already been approved unanimously by the City-County Council’s Public Safety Committee on the previous evening (January 14, 2026).

Key Outcomes

  • Vote on New IMPD Lease: Motion by Brett Wineinger, seconded by Angela Davis. The committee voted unanimously to approve the new five-year lease for IMPD at 4150 N Keystone Ave. The vote was recorded as “all in favor, none opposed.”
  • Next Meeting: The committee scheduled its next meeting for March 19, 2026. The upcoming agenda will include a similar lease presentation for the Clerk’s Records Warehouse and updates on City-County Building improvements.

Meeting Transcript

In the the drive folder. There we go. I think I did it. No, we're not. Yeah, there are. You just have to open the click share folder and run the executable file. Right. Yeah, because we have a barco and it's definitely not the T. Well, the PowerPoint's kind of irrelevant. It's just a picture of uh the space for the lease, the lot. Um I think we can interrupt they didn't have a presentation last night, council, so I think we'll be fine. Yeah. Ben, are you okay? Are you ready if we I think Councillor Delaney's coming? In the meantime, I can introduce you to our new asset and building operations manager. This is David Klamanoff, making his way to Indy from Maryland. So he'll be at all these meetings moving forward. Welcome. Thank you. Do you have Maryland place on the car? Yep. Then I used to pull into your parking spot so I could back into mine, and now I gotta do an optional hours turnaround. I've had it in a different parking space every day that I've been here this week. So tomorrow maybe situation. So we are growing the tax rolls here in Marion County one higher. I have this. And then oops, I should have. Then you should hit the button. Yeah. Usually there's a little thing that comes up. Ready to share. And the button. Unable to share because the base unit cannot detect any display. Yeah, I'm here. Well, here's the base. And it's on the council. Okay. Um here's why. Cord has to be plugged into box. Cord fell out. That reminds me of uh movie airplane. Yeah, I feel less dumb now. Well, it's good thing I run technology. Yeah. CTOY. Great. Fantastic. You're welcome. You go ahead. Oh, I can sit with you.

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