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Marion County Commissioners Meeting - June 18, 2024

Other Meetings (J-Z)Tuesday, June 18, 2024
BodyIndianapolis, Indiana
SessionOther Meetings (J-Z)
DateTuesday, June 18, 2024
StatusFILED
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0:01

Okay, we're gonna call the meeting to order.

0:03

This is the Marion County Commissioners meeting.

0:05

My name is Joseph O'Connor.

0:07

I'm the president of the county commissioners.

0:09

We are in room 260 of the city county building.

0:12

It is June 18, 2024, approximately 2.05 p.m.

0:18

And we're gonna go ahead and start the meeting off with introductions on my left.

0:22

Thank you, Mr.

0:23

Chair.

0:23

Good afternoon, everyone.

0:24

I'm Milo Eldridge.

0:25

I have the privilege and to serve as the secretary for this great commission.

0:29

Thank you.

0:31

Good afternoon.

0:32

My name is Barbara Lawrence.

0:34

I'm the Narbean County Treasurer and I'm the Vice President of the Commissioners.

0:38

Thank you for being here this afternoon.

0:43

Thank you.

0:44

First order of business will be to approve the meeting minutes for the April 16th, 2024 meeting.

0:51

Do we have any additions or corrections to those minutes?

0:55

Move approval.

0:56

Second.

0:57

Okay, we have a motion to approve in a second.

0:59

All in favor, please signify by saying aye.

1:01

Aye aye.

1:03

Opposed, same sign.

1:04

Minutes are approved.

1:07

Looks like we have no correspondence today, madam auditor.

1:12

No appointments.

1:13

So we'll jump on down to new business.

1:15

We have a discussion on parcel 9009316 with Noble Center.

1:20

Ryan, did you have anything to add or um yeah?

1:23

I've got a little intro.

1:25

Uh parcel 9009316 is a large parcel of approximately 40% undeveloped land located on North Tibbs Avenue.

1:35

This parcel completely surrounds parcel 904-5535, which is currently owned by Noble Centers Inc.

1:42

Noble Centers Inc., aka Noble of Indiana is a nonprofit organization founded in 1953 with the goal of empowering children and adults with disabilities.

1:53

Here is a photo of the parcel in question.

2:05

In 1969, Noble of Indiana leased from the Marion County Commissioners the right to use parcel 9009316 for a period of 99 years with a fee of $1 per year paid in one sum at the time the lease went into effect.

2:21

Noble of Indiana now wants to acquire parcel 9009316 for the purpose of developing the land.

2:27

They intend to submit an application through the county-owned nonprofit surplus program.

2:38

One of you would like to come have a seat.

3:11

I've been with associated with Noble since 1998.

3:15

So I have a long history with the agency.

3:18

Yeah.

3:19

I'm happy to answer questions, or I have some information to provide if that would be helpful to kind of talk you through what we're thinking.

3:25

Okay, great.

3:26

Um so first of all, thank you for your time this afternoon.

3:29

I know time's valuable and we appreciate you carving out some for us.

3:32

Um I think that folks on on this uh uh commission know that Noble has had a decades and generations old history uh with the city.

3:43

Um we have uh we were founded in 1953.

3:46

In fact, that means that we're in our 70th anniversary this year.

3:50

Um there was a group of folks who who got together and founded Noble School, and I learned recently as I'm learning the history of the organization that it was in the Cole Noble neighborhood, and that's why it was started.

4:00

And so we have found that uh the original building is where the St.

4:04

Joseph Event Hall is now.

4:07

So if you're free on August 28th, we're gonna rent it out and have a here's where it all started kind of event, and we'd love to have you there and learn more about the history of Noble.

4:16

So as an organization, we currently serve about 3,700 folks a year across the lifespan.

4:23

So babies and toddlers all the way through end of life care.

4:27

Um we we're really interested in what's happening at the Tibbs location.

4:32

I don't know if you're aware, as I've been researching it, it was originally part of the Central State Farm Colony, um, which I didn't know about and was interested to learn about that.

4:43

Uh and as Ryan mentioned, it was leased to Noble in 1969 on a 99-year land lease, and I believe there's an option for another 99-year land lease that's been added that was written in handwriting or something.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Disability Rights█████████████████████████████████████████████45%
Procedural███████████████15%
Community Engagement███████████11%
Affordable Housing█████████9%
Nonprofit Management█████████9%
Zoning and Land Use██████6%
Real Estate█████5%
Summary of Proceedings

Marion County Commissioners Meeting - June 18, 2024

The Marion County Commissioners met on June 18, 2024, at approximately 2:05 PM in Room 260 of the City-County Building. President Joseph O'Connor chaired the meeting, with Secretary Milo Eldridge and Vice President Barbara Lawrence (also County Treasurer) present. Minutes from the April 16, 2024 meeting were approved unanimously. The meeting focused on two discussion items: a proposed land transfer and development by Noble of Indiana, and an update on the Tudor Park condominium community's parcel issues. No formal actions were taken; both matters were deferred to the July 16, 2024 meeting.

Noble of Indiana Parcel Discussion

  • Staff (Ryan) introduced parcel 9009316, approximately 40% undeveloped land on North Tibbs Avenue, leased to Noble of Indiana (a nonprofit serving people with disabilities) since 1969 on a 99-year lease at $1 per year. Noble now wishes to acquire the parcel through the county-owned nonprofit surplus program.
  • Noble's CEO (unnamed in transcript) presented plans to develop the land, including: 120 units of low-income housing (in three buildings) via IHCDA tax credits in partnership with TH Investments; a new corporate headquarters with health, fitness, and sports facilities; outdoor soccer/football fields; and a pickleball court. The goal is to create integrated recreational spaces prioritizing people with disabilities. Currently, Noble serves about 3,700 individuals annually across Marion County and beyond.
  • The CEO noted a time-sensitive need to apply for zoning before July to meet tax credit deadlines, requesting a consent form allowing Noble to petition for zoning before ownership transfer.
  • Commissioners commended Noble's work and expressed support but raised questions about the timeline (3-4 years for completion), confidence in tax credits (alternative fundraising exists), and the condition of the existing building at 21st and Shadeland.
  • Corporation counsel advised against taking action at this meeting due to late notice; the item will be placed on the July 2024 agenda. Staff will provide the nonprofit surplus application form.

Tudor Park Parcel Update

  • Staff (Ryan) discussed parcel 702-9586, comprising Tudor Park Drive from 38th Street to the former clubhouse. The parcel had delinquent taxes dating to 2003, leading to an $850,000 tax delinquency, and was sold at tax sale around 2005-2006. The Tudor Park condominium HOA is under court-ordered receivership to address years of mismanagement.
  • Attorney Earnhardt, counsel for the HOA, explained that two adjacent parcels (common elements) have been transferred to a new not-for-profit corporation (Condos of Tudor Park Inc., a 528 exempt organization). The street parcel was recently ruled tax-exempt by the PETER BOA board. The goal is to transfer the surplus parcel to the new HOA, allowing demolition of the dilapidated clubhouse once finances stabilize.
  • Staff noted the nonprofit surplus program requires 501(c)(3) status, which the HOA does not have. Instead, they recommended using the abutting landowner program (parcels valued under $50,000) to combine the road parcel with adjacent parcels. Letters will be sent to abutters. A special abutting process may be used due to encroachment issues.
  • The item will be presented for formal action at the July 2024 meeting.

Key Outcomes

  • The Noble of Indiana parcel discussion will be added to the July 16, 2024 meeting agenda for potential action (consent form for zoning and surplus program transfer).
  • The Tudor Park parcel transfer will proceed via the abutting landowner program at the July 16, 2024 meeting.
  • The next regular meeting is scheduled for July 16, 2024, at 2:00 PM in the same room.
  • Meeting adjourned without any votes taken.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, we're gonna call the meeting to order. This is the Marion County Commissioners meeting. My name is Joseph O'Connor. I'm the president of the county commissioners. We are in room 260 of the city county building. It is June 18, 2024, approximately 2.05 p.m. And we're gonna go ahead and start the meeting off with introductions on my left. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Milo Eldridge. I have the privilege and to serve as the secretary for this great commission. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Barbara Lawrence. I'm the Narbean County Treasurer and I'm the Vice President of the Commissioners. Thank you for being here this afternoon. Thank you. First order of business will be to approve the meeting minutes for the April 16th, 2024 meeting. Do we have any additions or corrections to those minutes? Move approval. Second. Okay, we have a motion to approve in a second. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye aye. Opposed, same sign. Minutes are approved. Looks like we have no correspondence today, madam auditor. No appointments. So we'll jump on down to new business. We have a discussion on parcel 9009316 with Noble Center. Ryan, did you have anything to add or um yeah? I've got a little intro. Uh parcel 9009316 is a large parcel of approximately 40% undeveloped land located on North Tibbs Avenue. This parcel completely surrounds parcel 904-5535, which is currently owned by Noble Centers Inc. Noble Centers Inc., aka Noble of Indiana is a nonprofit organization founded in 1953 with the goal of empowering children and adults with disabilities. Here is a photo of the parcel in question. In 1969, Noble of Indiana leased from the Marion County Commissioners the right to use parcel 9009316 for a period of 99 years with a fee of $1 per year paid in one sum at the time the lease went into effect. Noble of Indiana now wants to acquire parcel 9009316 for the purpose of developing the land. They intend to submit an application through the county-owned nonprofit surplus program. One of you would like to come have a seat. I've been with associated with Noble since 1998. So I have a long history with the agency. Yeah. I'm happy to answer questions, or I have some information to provide if that would be helpful to kind of talk you through what we're thinking. Okay, great. Um so first of all, thank you for your time this afternoon. I know time's valuable and we appreciate you carving out some for us. Um I think that folks on on this uh uh commission know that Noble has had a decades and generations old history uh with the city. Um we have uh we were founded in 1953.

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