0:18Welcome to the City of Joliet pre-council meeting for Monday, October 6th, 2025, at 5 30 in City Hall, Council Chambers with the Honorable Mayor Terry Darcy Presiding.
0:33We'll begin with roll call.
0:36Councilman Cardinals.
0:50First, we have a presentation.
0:52Economic development updates presented by Paulina Martinez, economic development director.
1:39Good evening, members of the council.
1:41Mayor, my name is Paulina Martinez, economic development director.
1:44I also have my colleague Emily McGuire here with me, who's also part of the team.
1:50Today we'll be talking about some internal indicators as well as some external indicators to kind of gauge how the situation is going in Joliet.
2:14To begin, I'd like to share a few of the economic development divisions key performance indicators.
2:20Currently, we have 30 active internal projects in our pipeline.
2:24These include notable efforts such as the redevelopment of key properties in downtown Joliet and the leasing of the former migraine space at Union Station.
2:33In addition, we are actively collaborating with the Will County Center for Economic Development on 20 separate projects.
2:39Of those, 15 are focused on ag tech or trucking, distribution, and logistics.
2:45Our team has been focused on several new initiatives and special projects.
2:49In June, Joliet proudly hosted the IHSA Boys State Tournament with a total of 7,773 tickets sold throughout the weekend, bringing both visibility and economic activity to the community.
3:09This program offers significant incentives for redevelopment, and we anticipate bringing the final application to City Council within the next month.
3:18Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, our team has conducted 129 business visits so far this year.
3:25These visits are a core part of our strategy to better understand the needs of our local business community, ensuring they have the support to remain and grow right here in Joliet.
3:37Yeah, so um some of the impact that some of these business visits have is really creating trust in the community and having them uh feel confident enough to come to us uh whenever they have issues.
3:48One example was that in one of our visits, um we had a series of um businesses complain about a strong chemical odor within their plaza.
3:59So we um worked closely with the building department as well as neighborhood services to address this issue.
4:08So small things like that really create um some trust in in staff in in the city, it creates that uh good work in relationship with the community.
4:18And another one of the initiatives that we're working it with is with the Heritage Corridor on tourism.
4:26So one of these initiatives is the story of art in America.
4:29This is a series uh that goes around the country featuring artists in different communities.
4:35For 2026, they'll be on their fourth season, and they will be featuring communities around Route 66.
4:42Joliet will have its own episode.
4:44We will be the first community that will be featured in the series, and we were gonna be the only community in Illinois who's gonna be featured.
4:52Um five artists will have their work featured in this uh episode, who include Beverly Wines, Angelica Aguilar, Ushmar Torres, Marietta Joliet, uh, as well as Donna Frank Frank Stately.
5:08Other key performance indicators include business licenses, vacancy rate, and unemployment rate.
5:13As you can see so far, we have 65 new business licenses.
5:17We're also keep trying to keep track of the businesses that have closed so far.
5:21Those are a little harder to track because they don't report to the city when they close, but we do our best to be out in the community and reading the news to see what has been reported.
5:32So in total, we calculate that we have 53 new net businesses in Joliet.
5:37We have an overall 12 vacancy rate in Joliet, and I will go into this a little more in later slides.
5:44But overall, our retail and office vacancy rates, as you can see, is pretty healthy in the lower 3%.
5:52And unemployment rate is 4.9%, which is actually one of the lowest unemployment rates that we've seen in a while.
5:59So those are good news.
6:02This is just an illustration of business licenses that we've had so far this year.
6:10The graph on the right and the left, I'm sorry, is just year-to-date uh business licenses for previous years from 2021 until 2025.
6:222025 is also of August 31st, 2025.
6:27And on the right, you just have like a different display of the same information broken down by month.
6:33Unemployment rate, um, like I said, um, it's actually actually low, which is a good thing.
6:39A year ago, um it was one 1.5% higher, so that's a pretty big um pretty big jump down, uh, which is a positive thing.
6:49Um usually Joliet has a unemployment rate of around 6-7%, so to go down to under 5% is a huge one for us.
6:58Um, and we're pretty comparable to the rest of the region, as you can see here.
7:04All right, so for vacancy rates, really what is really driving our overall vacancy rate is the industrial vacancy rate.
7:13And you might ask why do we have a 14% vacancy rate?
7:16Uh my answer to you would be because we continue to have very healthy activity on construction projects for industrial space.
7:24In the last year alone, we added one million square feet of new industrial space.
7:29But as you can see, our office space and our retail space, the vacancy is very low, which is very healthy.
7:35And compared to our peer communities like Aurora, Plainfield, and Naperville, who have, for example, Plainfield has an office vacancy rate of 13.5.
7:45Um, we're doing very well.
7:48Aurora has a vacancy rate for their office of 4.8.
7:52So we are in good track uh in terms of our vacancy rates, not only for the city overall, but also for um for uh commercial corridors.
8:02Uh those are I would say pretty pretty decent uh vacancy rates.
8:08Uh building permits, um this is the last five years as of August of that year, so August 2021, August 2022, 2022, I'm sorry, 23, 24, 25.
8:22Um I would say we are on par with the year 2022, um, and we're hoping that uh we'll meet the same metrics as of that year.
8:32Construction valuation, this is like the total investment that we're having in our construction projects.
8:38Um, as you can see, 2025 is doing very well with 441 million dollars worth of construction valuation, which is 29% higher than the previous month of July, and um overall um 38% more than uh August of last year.
8:58This is just a breakdown of the construction valuation and square footage broken down by industrial and commercial space.
9:06Um as you can see, the valuation is higher for both commercial and industrial space as compared to last year at the same time.
9:15And um, like I said, industrial square footage that was added is 1.1 million.
9:21So there's still confidence in our market that that space will be filled.
9:28And over here, I just wanted to give you an overview of the um our job market, if you will.
9:37Um, this are Will County numbers.
9:39Um we have not been able to find any databases that give us Joliet numbers, uh, but uh given the fact that we are the largest community in Will County.
9:49This gives you a pretty good picture of what is going on.
9:51Uh one of the most sought-out um occupations so far is registered nurses uh overall in the month of August, there were 740 unique postings for those jobs, and they were um usually up for about 22 days.
10:00There were seven hundred seven hundred and forty unique postings for those jobs, and they were um usually up for about twenty-two days.
10:06In comparison last year, uh it was taking them like closer to 30 days to fill those vacancies.
10:13Um organizations that are doing the most hiring right now are Soline Health, JR RJW Logistics, Walmart and July Junior College, who all have presence in Juliet.
10:28And we'll pass it on to Emily.
10:32The City of Juliette is proud to have welcomed numerous new businesses to our community, celebrating their openings with ribbon cuttings.
10:38As shown on the slide, we have welcomed new businesses such as Frida Coupe, the new Hollywood Casino, and TO's Donuts, among many other exciting new additions.
10:48The economic development division works closely with the Joliet Chamber of Commerce to assist businesses in preparing for their grant openings, helping to coordinate the ribbon cuttings, and plan any other items in advance.
11:03I also wanted to give you an update on world automotive.
11:06Um we brought this item last year because we uh signed the share sales tax agreement with them.
11:12Part of their agreement was that they were going to do facade improvements, as you can see in the picture, and if you've uh driven by Jefferson lately, it looks a lot better than it looked before.
11:22They did a great job.
11:23Also, they committed to hiring 23 people over the next three years.
11:2925% of the workforce is supposed to be from Joliet, so Joliet residents.
11:35Um what that translates to is 5.75 of those 23 employees have to be Joliet residents as of today a year ago.
11:45Um sorry, a year after, not a year ago.
11:50Um, four of those employees so far are already Joliet residents, right?
11:54So they're pretty close to meeting uh the numbers that we requested from them.
12:00And that is what we have for you.
12:02Do you have any questions?
12:07Um, you feature the ribbon cutting for a Hollywood casino in your presentation.
12:12That's something that took from uh concept to took ribbon cutting for four and a half, five years.
12:18What do we have on the table right now to expect to be built in the next two, three, four, or five years?
12:24In terms of that maximum.
12:26In terms of new business or development, yes.
12:29Um there's a lot of mainly industrial stuff.
12:33Um some of the items are a little more sensitive in nature, and I'd be happy to sit down with you and go over the project tracker with you.
12:41Uh, but most of them are industrial at this point.
13:02Next is citizens to be heard on agenda items.
13:06So this is anybody who would like to speak on an agenda item.
13:11I will go ahead and read the rules of procedure if anybody wants to speak right now.
13:18Looks like seeing none, so we'll just go ahead and move on.
13:22Next, we will have the city manager review tomorrow night's actionable items.
13:27Okay, so we'll hear from communication technology and information systems tomorrow, public safety and public service.
13:35Uh consent agenda council memo 528-25, approval purchase of one new caterpillar full size and loader from Altrafer Industries in the amount of 240,342 and twelve cents.
13:52Council Memo 52925, approval purchase of one new caterpillar for 2007 XE backhoe from Altrafer Industries in the amount of 170,006.
14:05Council Memo 53025 approval of payment for the coast share balance for the cost share balance of the design agreement for the construction of downtown plug control levy to the Department of Army in the amount of 105,000.
14:23Council Memo 53125, approval of change order number one for Ottawa Street Parking Deck Parking Access and Revenue Control System to Flash Parking Inc.
14:33and the amount of $74,138.
14:37Council Memo 53225, change order number two for the 2025 pavement marking program to superior road striping in the amount of $18,525.14 cents and payment requests number five and final in the amount of $64,098.20 cents.
15:00Council Memo 53325, approval of change order number two for the 2023 Sanitary Sewer Cleaning and Inspection Program on behalf of National Power Rotting Corp for deduction in the amount of $20,000 and 33 cents.
15:13And final final payment number nine in the amount of $58,942.44 cents.
15:20Council Memo $53425, approval of change order number two for the Fairmont Water and Sewer Extension on behalf of Steve Space Construction for deduction in the amount of $162,631.66 and final payment number five in the amount of $175,316.
15:44Council Memo $53525 approval.
15:47Change order number two for the combined sewer overflow long-term control plan phase four, east side and west side combined sewer overflow regulators on behalf of deconstruction for a deduction in the amount of $488,698.15 cents.
16:03And file final payment number seven in the amount of $847,079 and 32 cents.
16:11Council Memo 53625 purchase and installation of flooring for the Joliet Police Department from the flooring guys in the amount of 199,170.
16:27I didn't get in there quick time.
16:28Um I just wanted to clarify on the police department.
16:31That's the entire building from top to bottom all throughout.
16:33It's 20-year-old stuff.
16:35I wanted the public and all that.
16:36I didn't want to think that we're putting in somebody's living room for $199,000.
16:40That's the entire building.
16:41That's whether it's carpeted, whether it's tiled, we're getting it all, and it's all 20 plus years off.
16:50Council Memo 53725, award of contract to evolve software for Project Docs, SAS renewal in the amount of $41,400.
17:00Council Memo 53825, award of contract to Heartland Business Systems for the 2025-2026 document scanning services and the amount of $100,000.
17:10Council Memo 53925, award of contract to Heartland Business Systems for the Implation of Cisco Identity Services Engine and three years of ISE subscription and support in the amount of $165,341.57.
17:26Mayor, I want to declare what I was before our committee today.
17:30That has to do with internal only with access to our our our computers and databases.
17:35It has nothing that I don't I can see getting calls.
17:50Council Memo 540 25, award of contracts to Verda GIS North America for GIS Studio Enterprise Edition for a three-year ELA agreement in the amount of $109,440.
18:07Council Memo 54125, award of contract to RTA for the purchase of Fleet 360 Fleet Management Software and Implementation Services in the amount of $75,776.72.
18:21We'll move on to agenda items.
18:23This was pulled out of consent because it's Australi Austin Tyler matter that the President Pro Temp will need to recuse himself from tomorrow.
18:33So that's Council Memo 54325.
18:36Approval of change order number one for the Rosland Street Culvert Replacement Project to Austin Tyler Construction in the amount of twelve thousand six hundred and fourteen dollars and payment request number two in the amount of $176,377.
18:52Licenses and permit applications.
18:54We have Council Memo 54525 approval of an application for a drive-thru permit for a Duncan restaurant at $107 South Briggs Street.
19:04Can I stop can I say something there?
19:07I'm extremely happy to hear this, and I want to give a shout out to the economic development team as well as neighborhood services, Ingalls Park Neighborhood and District 5 has really really impressed upon me.
19:22So I impressed it upon staff that this was a white building, this was an eyesore, they were shooting out the windows, they were trying to get in.
19:31Um the convenience store that left actually left with all the meat inside.
19:34So I am so happy for the residents in Ingalls Park to know that this is coming down, and this is going to be a dunk of donuts.
19:43Anything at this point would be welcome, especially coffee.
19:46So thank you to everybody who worked on this because they had been really requesting for a while that something was done there.
19:55This would be a good opportunity.
19:57We did it in the committee level too.
19:58If Greg, you know, just say a couple of words like you did, Greg.
20:01Um it's not directly related, but it's similar.
20:05And uh, you know, the seven brews so people knew last week there was a lot of freebies.
20:09Free coffee, free t-shirts, free this, free that.
20:12Greg, you you and Councilwoman Redman was by there once today, right?
20:16Greg, you were by there twice today.
20:18Uh I was by there once, but I've talked to other staff staff members who were by there as well, and there was a lot of things.
20:22I went by today too.
20:23We're all watching it.
20:24No, no backups today.
20:26So hopefully it was uh their successful business, but it's we don't have these problems.
20:30I think it was probably excitement of a new business as well as the giveaways that was uh creating that problem last week.
20:35And you've already talked to the to the ownership too.
20:37Should it become a problem that needs to be addressed by rewriting that would be something they would have to pay since we're creating the problem?
20:44Yeah, we've opened that discussion with them.
20:46We'll continue to monitor that location and make sure that um hopefully we don't have that problem going forward.
20:55Okay, moving on to ordinances.
20:57Um Council Memo 54725 ordinances associated with the city's edge south subdivision.
21:03Um ordinance approving the vacation of a five feet, the five-foot landscape easements and 15-foot public utility and draisment each drainage easements on lot three, four, and five in the city's edge subdivision and ordinance approving the preliminary plat of cities edge sub South Subdivision, a minor subdivision, and ordinance approving the recording plat of Cities Edge South Subdivision Minor Subdivision.
21:31So the subject site is three existing undeveloped lots in cities edge subdivision, and this re-subdivision will create two slightly larger lots from the three lots.
21:41Um it's zone B3 and currently contains two multi-tenant commercial buildings for contractor shops and similar uses.
21:49So industrial use for this one and the second one, Council Memo 54825, ordinances associated with ketone business center unit four subdivision.
22:01We have an ordinance approving the preliminary plat of Keetone Business Center, Unit 4 subdivision, and ordinance approving the recording plat.
22:09Um the subject lotted as existing 27-acre lot in Keetone subdivision at 3350 Shanahan Road.
22:16And this subdivision will create two lots from the existing lot.
22:20One for the current building and use, and a second for an additional user who could then construct their own building.
22:46Moving on to resolutions.
22:48Council Memo 55025, resolution appropriating supplemental motor fuel tax funds for the 2025 pavement marking program.
22:57This is um housekeeping for the item that we spoke of earlier in in the agenda in the consent agenda.
23:03This is just so we can um appropriate the MFT funds.
23:08Council Memo 55125, resolution declaring property of the City of Joliet as surplus.
23:14So this comes from Tri-County County Auto Theft Task Force, and these are vehicles that they have used um in the past and are getting new ones.
23:26Council Memo 55225 resolution authorizing the execution of a memorandum of understanding between the City of Juliet and Grundy County Emergency Telephone System Board.
23:36So the purpose of this memorandum of understanding is to ensure clear and secure shared talk groups across several jurisdictions.
23:47Council memo 55325 resolution authorizing CDBG funding for the 2025-2026 residential snow removal program and an amount not to exceed 44,000 dollars.
24:01I had a couple people inquire.
24:04I'm assuming the answer is yes.
24:06It went out to bid, right?
24:07People bid on this project.
24:11I think we have uh multiple.
24:14Jackie, do you want to answer the questions?
24:18So the reason why this is going on tonight's or tomorrow's agenda, uh, although it has already been approved as an activity uh by both city council and HUD is because it is going out to bid.
24:30Uh so that bid we are hoping will be prepared to uh be released by the end of the week.
24:36Yeah, I'm in full support of this program, so it is going out to bid after the okay, got it.
24:42Ask a question to Jackie.
24:43Um has the um registration begun.
24:48The registration for the residents to to sign up to have be part of the program.
24:53The registration has both begun and closed.
25:00We received a very overwhelming response to the applications, uh receiving well over 350 in a matter of 30 hours.
25:04That is what I was brought to me as the understanding that it was already completely booked up.
25:10I I just I thought it was a good idea that someone came up with for next year that we might consider um not cutting the application process off at that number and then do a lottery.
25:20So it seems fair to everybody that you don't have to be the first one in.
25:24You don't, you know, they it can be like, oh, who knows who, you know, that's not what we're looking to do.
25:29But uh, I think a lottery might be a good way to do it.
25:31So if we took in the applications, verified that they were qualified to be a part of it.
25:36And then put it into uh a lottery type process.
25:39I'm more than happy to discuss that process and see if we may be going back to that in future years.
25:46The lottery has been done in the past.
25:49Okay, and it was decided through feedback that having over 400 over 500 denials hit harder than cutting it off when we hit maximum capacity.
26:01Um but I'm more than open to discussions on how we can best make this accessible to everyone.
26:07All right, thank you.
26:10Uh Jackie, out of those 300 applicants, how many are covered or how many households are is it like uh 100, 200?
26:19So just to be clear, we received over 350 applications through the application portal.
26:24Uh we also are continuing to honor any confirmed application.
26:29I'm sorry, confirmed appointments that have been created for those that do not have computer or internet access.
26:35Um those 350 submitted applications, we have enough funding to provide these services for 330 households.
26:46Uh we are still in the midst of reviewing each application for eligibility, confirming that each person meets the criteria and are a confirmed resident of Joly Got.
26:57Um I did talk to Jackie this week about this.
27:01Uh it's a great program, and we're going to get together and we have some ideas and how we can get some more money for the funding for for next year, so we don't have to turn anyone away and make sure that the people that actually need it are getting it.
27:15So we're just gonna do some brainstorming, see if we can get some more money somewhere.
27:21And Jackie's been doing a great job, so thank you.
27:24It looks to me like if we're running uh 330, if we added 20 more, it's about 2500 more.
27:30I think we could figure out a way to fund that.
27:33So let's talk about that.
27:36I really do I agree.
27:39So we'll take a look at that.
27:40I mean, just breaking it down.
27:42It's 120 dollars per we could probably find it.
27:46The final cost will depend on the bids, but yes.
27:52Any other questions about snow removal?
27:56No, I councilwoman addressed exactly what I was gonna say.
28:02I'd like to see it expanded and some people know who you're talking to.
28:05Councilwoman Corman.
28:08There's two of us down here.
28:09Some people find this amazing coming from the fiscal hawk here.
28:13I'd like to see this program expanded if we can find a way to find it because it's always always been cut off.
28:20You know, there's always way more demand, legitimate demand than it so you know.
28:24Let us know what you find out, Councilman.
28:26I mean, are you sure we're gonna need it?
28:27We never get any snow.
28:28So I mean, what should this be the year?
28:36Um Council Memo 55425 resolution authorizing C D BG funding and subrecipient agreement with fighting chance NFP as recipient of CDBG fund administration funds and the amount not to exceed $15,000.
28:52Council Memo 55525, resolution authorizing C D BG funding and subrecipient agreement with the recovery community center of Juliet.
29:01NFP is recipient of CDBG administration funds and the amount not to exceed $15,000.
29:11Um finally, Council Memo 55625 resolution authorizing CDBG funding and sub-recipient agreement with Illinois Rock and Roll Museum on Route 66 NFP as a recipient of C D BG administration funds in an amount not to exceed 25,000 dollars.
29:31Um that concludes the agenda.
29:36Um before public comment, I have some remarks regarding BIPARC.
29:42Beth, can I jump in real quick?
29:45Todd, I just have a question.
29:47Um if one up here was to bring a resolution forward, what will be the criteria if I was a sponsor?
29:53Do I need a co-sponsor?
29:54I need three up here to support it to throw it on the agenda or what do we have to do here?
30:00He usually goes through committee first.
30:01Um does not require uh a sponsor, but we could talk later about what that perfect.
30:08Okay, I understand there are maybe some residents here tonight who want to address the council related to bicentennial park and some recent media attention it has received.
30:17We do not comment on personnel matters, and we will not do so tonight.
30:22But there is no truth to rumors that the city intends to sell or privatize bicentennial park.
30:29This park is a valued community institution, and we remain committed to offering cultural and community programming.
30:36Improvements are underway, and our focus is on preserving and enhancing this important asset for the people of Joliet.
30:45Okay, we'll go ahead and continue with public comments.
30:48So this is the time to um I have I know I have some um people signed up here.
30:54I'm going to read the public participation rules of procedure.
30:57Um so speakers should try to address all comments to the council as a whole and not to any member thereof.
31:05Repetitive comments are discouraged.
31:07The total comment time for any one person is four minutes.
31:11A speaker cannot give his or her allotted minutes to another speaker.
31:15No speaker shall engage in a debate or make direct threats or personal attacks or be uncivil or abusive.
31:21The presiding officer may limit irrelevant immaterial or inappropriate comments or statements.
31:28Um go ahead and start with um everyone that has signed up here.
31:32So Michael Obadinski, I have you first.
31:39Good evening, council.
31:40Thank you all for being here tonight.
31:42Um I wanted to say a few words.
31:44I went to the tree committee with Miss Renwick this past um the second, and there was a few things that were brought up.
31:52Few ideas that I thought were very smart.
31:55Um first is adding a tree care section to the Joliet City's website and how to take care of the trees that are existing as well as the new trees that come to the city.
32:08Um another thing I'd like to bring up is I love the ideas of community mulching, community planting, and a community education day for Arbor Day.
32:16I love that Joliet does that.
32:17I love that they do things like that.
32:20Um another thing they brought up was the different plaques for the trees when they do this.
32:27Um I noticed I walked downtown Joliet the other day, and there was the new electric boxes with like the music designs and the little QR code.
32:36An idea that they were thinking was the QR codes with a map of the different trees as well as explaining the different trees.
32:43Highly like that idea.
32:45Um I also wanted to thank all of you.
32:52Um at the last meeting I attended, I did bring some attention things to my old neighborhood.
32:57I did notice that the two district members for that neighborhood, they did clean up my uh the Cumberland subdivision and the different mediums.
33:05I did notice that, and I wanted to thank you guys.
33:07Um about the city's edge subdivision and the landscaping.
33:13I do like that idea, and I highly like that.
33:16Joliet is very on top of businesses, they're very on top of unemployment rates, they're very on top of new development, and I like that they are bringing in new businesses.
33:51The residential snow program.
33:53Um, I do like that idea, and I like that Mr.
33:56Mayor Darcy brought up bringing in a few more houses possibly.
34:00Um, where I did used to live, snow was a problem.
34:03Um we were one of the few subdivisions that got plowed last because we were the furthest from downtown.
34:10So something that I would recommend is for those two districts, um, possibly implementing some snow removal for those houses as well.
34:27I wanted to congratulate the city on doing that.
34:29Um, I took a walk around by the square and the new square that is coming, and it looks absolutely amazing and the progress that is being made.
34:36And I like that our city is bringing the history of Route 66 to our city.
34:42I love that we are upgrading things ever so slowly, and we are doing these things ever so slowly to better our city.
34:49And I again, this square, Rialto, all of the different buildings, they they are absolutely beautiful.
35:00And I again I want to congratulate everyone for the effort that they are putting into this city because I have gone to many other city meetings, and no other city has put in the effort that you guys have into Joliet when it comes to the roads, when it comes to the the projects, when it comes to the bridges.
35:16You guys are absolutely on top of all of it, and I love that you guys are doing all of these things to better our city.
35:24Um one thing I I did want to state I have heard from many residents that there is a lot of projects at once.
35:31I don't know if in future possibly uh zoning down the projects or working on specific zones instead of all over the city, but that is something that has been brought to concern that I've talked to many other residents about is the projects definitely all over versus just focusing on a specific spot.
35:57Thank you very much.
36:00Okay, Kathy Garthis.
36:10Hey, uh I remember last meeting that there was this thing, this phase one of this study for this you know, future bridge you guys, you know, that they want to put over the the railroad tracks over there on Laterway Road, because we know how bad that letterway road track crossing is.
36:29But you know, but I talk to ICC, ICC says they're gonna back Jolyette up and reimburse Joey for the money.
36:36But when I call ICC and talk to them, they told me that I say, where are you gonna get this funding from to pay Joey back for these phases, studies?
36:45They said it's comes out of taxpayers' money.
36:49So, you know, that 200 was 279,000 project of just phase one of doing a study on this thing, and then they're saying that it's gonna be phase two, there's gonna be phase three, and it's gonna be phase four until eventually the bridge is built over the railroad tracks, which every just step of the phases is gonna cost taxpayers more money and everything, and I think you know, though you guys had nothing to do with it, you know, that this stuff should all been put away when Center Point and Union Pacific came to Joey and wanted this project.
37:21We wanted their Union Pacific in a modal because I think you know, because they're the one center point was the one that did design that crossing to be the way it is, with the curves, with the medium thing, the channel all the water rain water right down to the track, and then Union Pacific cannot maintain that track and you know at all.
37:38You know, every time they fix it, as fast as they fix it, the trucks are ruining it again, or trains are ruining it, and you know, but the point is that Center Point Union Pacific got billions of dollars, you know.
37:50The taxpayers don't have the money like these companies got.
37:56So, you know, we just approve if you guys would, you know, I know you want to do the right thing, but you know, we've got to find another way to fund these things, make these businesses that are causing the issues to pay for the damages they're doing.
38:09And another thing is there's talk that I've been seen in the on the internet here about a data center.
38:17You know, we're all talking about data centers going up everywhere, you know, and these data centers are huge.
38:23Now they're talking bringing one to Joliet area.
38:26And these things, like I said, are huge.
38:28They take up huge amount of farmland, you know, and I want you to know that farmers don't always, you know, ain't farmers just selling the land out.
38:37These are landlords some a lot of the times that are selling the land, you know, because farmers do not own all the land that they farm.
38:44They rent, they pay to rent the land the farm.
38:47And then when so when the land is taken away from them, the farmers cannot make their living anymore, it lose and lose money, and they forced to sell out and get out of farming.
38:58No future farmers get to come in because they don't get to you know go out and carry on farming, but you know, we then need to understand we've got to start preserving the farmland.
39:08We can't just think keep thinking every piece of land just developing an industrial because you know what's gonna happen what's gonna happen when there's no more farmland left and farmers can't make their living and nobody gets seed anymore.
39:23I don't think I want to start eating China food.
39:26I don't want to start eating dogs and rats and lizards and snakes that like they eat over there in China.
39:32But this is what's gonna happen if we don't preserve the farmland.
39:37You know, I don't care who's trying to sell it.
39:39We just need to preserve it because we need farmers, you know, this farmers feed the world.
40:03Thank you for letting me speak.
40:06First, I want to say how proud I am of the police officers and first responders of our community.
40:11They work hard to keep us safe.
40:13They dedicate their time to us.
40:15And so many of us who call Julie at home, we feel safe.
40:19I want to share my concerns about reports of recent ice activity in our city.
40:25Many residents, including longtime community members and families, are feeling afraid and unsure about what's happening in our city, and it's scary.
40:44Contacting local law enforcement.
40:49And I think that's one of the best things about us.
40:51And I just want to make sure that that doesn't go anywhere.
40:54And nobody has to live their life in fear of coming out of their homes.
41:15Good evening, Mayor.
41:16Any council members.
41:20I live in a trivia subdivision.
41:24And uh I'm here to uh address this the councilman about uh our subdivision.
41:32We were annexed into the subdivision into Joliet in 2002.
41:38And uh I was the uh president of the clear view.
41:45And the people, some of them are gone, some of them are still here, but I guess they still consider me to be the president of the association.
41:55But anyhow, the reason I'm here is that uh we started to uh particular you know bring out petitions to uh to the city to get into curbs and gutters in our in our subdivision.
42:10Well that started in two uh 2016.
42:14Most of it was done, but uh in I think uh maybe uh right after the uh COVID thing came in.
42:26Some of it was completed and some of it wasn't.
42:30Uh Helen Avenue was completed all the way out to uh Mills Road.
42:37Now Mo Old Avenue, they started it and they stopped at Charity, and they did not go all the way out to Mills Road, and uh I think the city needs to go ahead and re you know finish this thing because uh it's been over 20 years since uh we've been annexed into this into the city, and uh I've uh had uh experiences with the late Jack McGuire, representative of the state, and also the late Senator Larry Welsh of this of the uh state, and they helped me get grants to do this project here uh to get us into the city, along with uh Will County uh district councilman, late Margie Woods, and I need you all to look at this and continue to finish this for us.
43:38And uh I'm old now I'm tired, but I'm trying to do the best I can with the few residents that we have here.
43:48Uh with them, some of them are gone, the ones that are that I was with, and they helped me out a lot too.
43:58And I'm asking you to finish what you did, what you should do.
44:05Nelson here with me.
44:07He's the one that's complaining a little bit, and I don't blame him.
44:10You know, there's some things that uh should have been done, and they shouldn't be finished.
44:17So I'm hopefully looking at you all will consider doing what you decided you were gonna do 20 years ago.
44:26And I thank you, and uh, thank you very much for letting me speak to someone about this.
44:31I think the help we all need.
44:34Beth, yeah, can somebody look into that?
44:36Because ironically, this situation's always seem to happen in District 5 on the east side, and there are many other areas like that, so I want to see if they're on the docker for something soon, or and then I also want this resident communicated with, please.
44:54Uh yeah, I can talk to Mr.
44:56We do have plans to complete those roads in there.
45:00That was originally an unincorporated county subdivision that came into the study.
45:02We've been picking off the streets over the years.
45:04We can't do them all in one year because we have needs elsewhere in the city, but we do have uh that uh additional roads there in our five-year plan.
45:11I think we've completed uh you know guess 75% of the streets are.
45:15We still have a few to go, though.
45:30Hello, respected members of the council.
45:33I'm here on behalf of the Billy Lee Mocker Theater, and um, we don't know what the changes are being made.
45:40Um, there's uh a lot of questions we have, and we like a public statement addressing the changes and um the structural changes that have been uh known to us.
45:53Um I just wanted to mention, you know.
45:56I have something here, sorry.
46:00Um for decades the park has been more than a venue.
46:06It has been the heart of Joliet's artistic community.
46:09Rumors and lack of clear communication from the city of Joliet suggests a potential shift in the park's mission, one that would prioritize commercial rentals over its historical and vital role as a hub for community theater.
46:23Such a decision would not merely alter our business model, it would sound a death knell for the arts in our city, it would silence the voices of our local artists, deprive our youth of invaluable cultural experiences, and strip Joliet of one of its most cherished community treasures.
46:38We implore you, the City of Joliet to honor the commitment to public service by engaging in a transparent and open dialogue with the community.
46:46We ask for a formal public statement, clarifying your intentions, and for a public forum where the residents can voice their concerns and contribute to the park's future.
46:56We urge you to listen to the community, preserve the bicentennial park's rich artistic tradition and ensure its continued role as the cornerstone of Joliet's cultural life.
47:07Summertime on stage at the Billy Lee Mocker Bicentennial Park and Theater has long been a cornerstone of cultural life in Joliet.
47:16That as well as the Festival of the Gnomes.
47:19Um it was created and nurtured by a dedicated individual whose decades-long contributions to Joliet Cultural Affairs have built an inclusive, welcoming and free environment for artists, family, and art lover lovers of all backgrounds.
47:37This person is not just a founder, she's a heart and backbone of a community arts center, and yet now quietly and inconspicuously, decisions are being made behind closed doors that misrepresent her legacy and jeopardize the future of our community theater.
47:52The very institution she helped build is being politicized with no clear explanation or transparency, transparency from city leadership.
48:01We as a community demand transparency.
48:04We stand in support of a leader who has brought light, life, and opportunity to Joliet's cultural scene for generations.
48:22Um I participated in a children's theater at the Rialto.
48:27We had a traveling community theater group that would come through every spring and we would do a production.
48:34So that helped me learn about acceptance.
48:38Um helped me with my parenting.
48:40I have a daughter who has earned uh awards as uh empathy, um, somebody that displays empathy.
48:47So we're asking for you guys to please participate with us as community members and display your empathy for the legacy of Billy Lee Mocker Theater.
49:11Thank you, Council Mayor.
49:13Several years ago, I led a group of citizens before you who were very concerned about the fate of Bicentennial Park in Bluff Street.
49:21At that time, it was facing a potential takeover by the township who refused to say what they wanted to do with what many consider lucrative riverfront property.
49:31After a successful plea to you to leave the status quo, we were happy, but I never thought we'd be back again, or at least not this soon.
49:41Bluff Street is one of the oldest parts of Joliet, the very birthplace of our city's history.
49:46Two United States presidents are tied to Bluff Street, Abraham Lincoln and Martin Van Buren.
49:53One of the first log cabins was at Bluff in Jefferson Street.
50:00Illinois' second oldest anti-slavery society was here on Bluff Street.
50:03It wasn't in Chicago.
50:04It wasn't in Naperville.
50:05It was right here in Joliet, then known as Juliet.
50:10This history recap leads me to the current state of Bicentennial Park.
50:14Multiple people contacted me about a month ago saying the management at Bipark got the same unjust, shameful treatment that those of us who were at the Joliet Area Historical Museum and at the prison got.
50:28They were treated like garbage and without cause.
50:31Hard working and the most honest people too, naturally.
50:35I have known Lori Novotney Carmine and her family for 41 years.
50:41I went to school with her.
50:42I did plays and musicals with her.
50:44I took acting lessons from her wonderful mom Jan at Bicentennial Park.
50:49You will not find a harder working, more honest, more decent Joliet family than the Novotneys, whether they're distributing communion at mass, teaching, putting on plays, or running a theater.
51:02These are good people, especially Lori.
51:05Since Lori took over Bicentennial Park, I have never seen so many events at that venue ever.
51:11She's had film fests, poetry readings, art, musicals, plays, flea markets, Shakespeare, and the beloved concerts on the Hill, not to mention Festival of Gnomes and Drunken Known.
51:23Lori and her family have been a part of Bicentennial Park since its inception.
51:28They are as much a part of the park as Billy Leemarker ever was, and I knew Billy and Billy would not disagree with me at all.
51:36We citizens will not stand by and let you push Lori out or any of her staffers.
51:42If you need to do some housekeeping, I suggest you perhaps look at some of those foundation members.
51:47I also heard Ramlings at Jolia Drama Guild might take over.
51:52I enjoy their work, but let them stick to plays and let people who know how to run a business, how to run a theater, in other words, Lori, do her job.
52:01I also heard some out-of-town woman was brought in to run things again, no more out-of-towners.
52:09We are not Chicago, we are not Neighbor Vote.
52:13We are the city of champions.
52:14We want to stay that way.
52:16Keep Lori where she is.
52:17We won't let her be a fall guy for anyone else's shenanigans.
52:21Nor will we allow the demise of the theater.
52:24By the way, you already had that Doma Unity at the theater.
52:27When you go outside and you see the smiles on senior citizens' faces on Thursday nights for concerts on the Hill.
52:34You're bringing together people of every age, every economic background, racial, religious, everyone coming together.
52:41You had that already.
52:43And you think this theater will be successful without Lori running it?
52:47I think you're in for a rude awakening.
52:49She knows how to do things there.
52:52And I hate to see anyone go through what we went through at the museum in the prison.
52:57We're still feeling that fallout.
52:59Every time I see Christine Johnson or Mike Johnson or Ron Trujillo or Kara or Dan or Rob, the rest of us.
53:09We were treated like garbage, and I'm not going to let anyone else go through what we went through.
53:31I've been part of the Bicentennial Park Theater community since 2018.
53:35Before I found this theater, I was lonely, deeply depressed, and felt my life had no meaning.
53:43I even considered ending my life.
53:46Then in 2018, I joined the Bicentennial Park Theater community, and everything changed.
53:54This community gave me purpose, friendships, and a reason to keep going.
54:00In 2021, believe it or not, I was diagnosed with stage three chronic kidney disease.
54:05And then stagery cancer, all on a solitary kidney.
54:10During that time I experienced a spontaneous pregnancy through the treatments.
54:14Doctors urged for me to abort to save my life, and I said no, because I chose to fight for mine and my daughters.
54:23Today I'm three years cancer-free, and my daughter is three years old, a living miracle.
54:29And I truly believe I wouldn't be here without the support and community I found at Bicentennial Park.
54:36Please, if there is any question about the future of BIPARC's traditions, please let them continue.
54:46It's just, I'm just one story of a life that's been saved.
54:52It's a place where people can heal, grow, and find hope just as Billy Leemarker intended.
55:00So we can save more lives if we continue these traditions.
55:09Okay, that's all who I have on the list.
55:11Is there anyone else who would like to speak?
55:15Is there anyone else who would like to speak?
55:24Hi, my name is Sadek Pranwala.
55:27Um here on behalf of the Dugan Development on the Corner of Washington and Briggs.
55:32Um I just wanted to bring up a few notes before you guys do uh discuss those items.
55:38I know there's been a lot of um issues with um recent, you know, new developments that that have drive-throughs that back up onto the street.
55:49I just wanted to let you guys know that we did have a traffic study conducted by KLOA.
55:55And um we have about uh 11 car stacked from just the drive-thru, and that doesn't include the front of the building.
56:03With that included, there's about 17 or 18 cars, which is more they can they concluded that's more than ample for that um space due to the traffic of that street, and it should be little to no impact.
56:16I believe they said there would be about a three percent impact um on traffic in that area, and that would mostly be between 7.50 and uh 850 a.m.
56:27Um the other two issues that were brought to my attention were um so our order board, it's not next to a residential uh building, it's actually next to a commercial, it backs up into a commercial space, and the only residential in on that um lot is that's actually owned by us and it's part of our development.
56:48Um so if you guys have any other questions that come up later, please feel free uh for you to reach out to me or my team.
56:57Okay, is there anyone else who would like to address the council this evening?
57:02Okay, seeing none, I did receive a request for closed session.
57:05Is there a motion to go into closed session to discuss personnel, collective bargaining, land acquisition, or conveyance, pending or threatened litigation, after which the meeting will adjourn?
57:12So we'll it's a motion and second and to approve.
57:15Councilman Cardinals.
57:19Councilman Moreno, Councilman Mudron.