0:00Good evening, everybody.
0:01Uh we'll go ahead and uh start tonight's Jonesboro City Council meeting.
0:05This is uh July 21st.
0:07A year's over halfway complete, and so as we continue to move forward, we hopefully have a very informative meeting tonight, get a lot accomplished.
0:17Uh we'll go ahead and I'll lead us in the Pledge Allegiance, and Dr.
0:20Coleman will lead us in prayer.
0:25I pledge allegiance to the United States of America and to the Republicans under God, indivisible with liberty.
0:40Wishers, Father, we thank you for allowing us to be able to be stewards in this community.
0:45We just pray, Father, that the as we go through answering questions that we go through with our business that belongs to you, and you give us the praise in Jesus' name we pray.
0:58Council, if you would please confirm uh your role, attendance.
1:08And we do have a quorum present for this evening.
1:10So next, council will move on to item number four.
1:13We do have a just a few short presentations that are not listed, but they won't take long.
1:17Chief Hammerick, if you would like to come forward, I think you've got the first presentation that you would like to make this evening, and then council.
1:24I'm gonna roll on into that with uh little banks Mathis is gonna come forward, he and his family.
1:30Chief, floor is yours.
1:34Just that just a little.
1:36So, council, I want to highlight a few of our other city employees that probably didn't get the spotlight very often.
1:42You know, most of the time we deal with emergencies in the city, it's either fire department, police department that usually handles that.
1:49Uh, we had an incident on July 8th of earlier this month where we had a car wreck that was in front of Discovery Island on Matthews.
1:59You know that ditch that sits to the north side, it's pretty deep, probably about 15, 20 feet deep.
2:04Uh, we had a few of our parks employees who were out there mowing, happened to witness a car run off the road into that ditch.
2:12Uh they scaled the ditch, helped the occupants out, and a dog got them up to safety, sit with them until the fire trucks and ambulances got there and dealt with them properly.
2:20So we had the crew that was on scene to put these guys in for an award for the fire department.
2:26We thought we'd present it here and just highlight their activities that day and express our gratitude for the things our city does.
2:37So those three individuals are Antoine Blair, Antonio Blair, and Jaden Gaston.
2:43If y'all come up front, please.
2:47I don't know if Jim or anybody else with parks wants to come up as well.
2:55We're gonna give you guys a ward of commendation for helping us out.
3:11And I've also got a couple of coins if I can remember which pocket I'm putting in to hand y'all out as well.
3:20But we appreciate what y'all did.
3:22It's stuff you don't have to do that makes a difference.
3:25So thank you very much for having us here.
4:02I hope we're gonna have a written on the well, you know now it's uh it's time council to also bring up another superhero.
4:13This young man is uh his name is Banks Mathis.
4:17Banks, if you would please come forward, you and your family.
4:23Banks is uh making his way up here.
4:26Um I just want to give you a little update on who Banks is and uh what he's all about.
4:33He was diagnosed with acute flaccid myelitis.
4:37Y'all come on up here and stand by me, which is an extremely rare condition.
4:43He was one of only four children in the country diagnosed, the only case in Arkansas.
4:50And at this point, he's only the fourth child in the country diagnosed with the only case in this area, as I said earlier.
4:58He's been to Laboner.
5:00He's received treatment at Shriner's Hospital in Philadelphia.
5:05And he's done an amazing job.
5:08It affects the spinal cord.
5:11And uh Banks is a strong young man.
5:14And so I want to make you a strong citizen for our community.
5:21And it's proclamation for acute flaccid Myelitis Awareness Month in July.
5:27So I couldn't think of a better person to honor.
5:30We're raising awareness through you by promoting education among families, educators, health care professionals, and community members are essential in providing recognition to AFM and supporting affected individuals and their families.
5:45It is fitting to acknowledge the strength and resilience of AFM patients like yourself and their families.
5:53While also recognizing the ongoing efforts of researchers, health care providers, and advocates dedicated to advancing understanding treatment and support of those who have this rare condition.
6:28Inspiring others and bringing greater awareness to AFM throughout the community and beyond.
6:35So I therefore, Mayor Harold Copenhager, the mayor of the City of Jonesboro, Arkansas, do hereby proclaim the month of July 2026 as AFM Awareness Month in the City of Jonesboro and urge all residents to raise awareness of AFM and join together in advancing understanding and research and hope for a brighter future as what you and your family and banks you are doing for our community.
7:04So I am here to honor you and you need to go forward and serve that.
7:09Congratulations, young man.
8:39All right, City Council will move on to item number five, and these are items on consent agenda.
8:46Unless there's one to be removed.
8:48We do have a motion on the floor.
8:55Go ahead and cast your ballot on consent agenda.
9:06All right, consent agenda does carry.
9:08Now we'll move on to resolutions not on the consent item.
9:12This is resolution 26075.
9:20Resolution by the City Council of the City of Jonesboro, Arkansas, to enter into a facility usage agreement with Jonesboro Jets Incorporated.
9:28Whereas Jonesboro Jets Incorporated is an Arkansas not-for-profit corporation organized to promote youth sports activities through the operation of its swim programs.
9:36And whereas the City of Jonesboro is the owner of certain public park amenities known as the Jonesboro City Pool Complex and hereafter referred to as the facilities.
9:43And whereas jets in the city desire to enter into an agreement, exhibit A for the purpose of evidencing the agreement of the parties with regard to the use of the facilities by Jets and the respective obligations of the parties regarding the use and maintenance of the facilities.
9:56Now therefore be it resolved by City Council for the City of Jonesboro, Arkansas, that Section 1 City of Jonesboro, Arkansas shall enter into a facility usage agreement.
10:02Exhibit A with Jonesboro Jets Incorporated for the use of the Jonesboro Pool Complex located at 1421 West Nettleton, Jonesboro, Arkansas, Section Two.
10:10Mayor and City Clerk are hereby authorized to execute such agreement.
10:14Mayor, just real quickly, I'm going to recuse from the next two.
10:18I asked to have them pulled.
10:20I do have a daughter that swims, but during uh comment, I'm going to ask questions about the legality of that.
10:35Do we have a first and second?
10:37Make a motion to adopt.
10:39We do have a motion on the floor.
10:41Any discussion by council.
10:46Anyone in council chambers?
10:50If you would please go ahead and cast your ballot on resolution 26075.
11:01And that does carry.
11:02So next we'll move on to resolution 2607.
11:06Resolution by the city council of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas to enter into facility usage agreement with Shark Web Aquatics Team for year 2026.
11:13Whereas Shark Wave Aquatics Team SWAT is an Arkansas not-for-profit corporation organized to promote youth sports activities through the operations of its swim programs, and whereas the city of Jonesboro is the owner of public park amenities known as the Jonesboro City Pool Complex and hereinafter referred to as the facilities.
11:29And whereas SWAT and the city desire to enter into an agreement, exhibit A for the purpose of evidencing the agreement of the parties with regard to use of the facilities by SWAT and the respective obligations of the parties regarding the use and maintenance of the facilities.
11:42Now therefore be it resolved by the city council for the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas, that section one that the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas shall enter into a facility usage agreement, exhibit A with Jonesboro SWAT Incorporated for use of the Jonesboro Pool Complex located at 1421 West Nettleton, Jonesboro, Arkansas.
11:57The mayor and city clerk are hereby authorized to execute such agreement.
12:03We do have a motion on the floor to adopt any questions by council.
12:09Questions by council.
12:12Anyone in council chambers.
12:17If you would please go ahead and cast your ballot.
12:23And that resolution does carry.
12:26Next we'll move on to resolution 26078.
12:30We have a date and time for a hearing.
13:03In and the property description follows.
13:05Whereas the petition has been presented to City of Jonesboro, Arkansas, and whereas Arkansas law requires notice of such public hearing.
13:11Now therefore be it resolved by the City Council of the City of Jonesboro, Arkansas, that the city clerk is directed to publish a notice advertising the public of such requests to vacate a 15-foot alley and that the matter will be heard before city council on August 4th, 2026 at 525 p.m.
13:26at the municipal building Jonesboro, Arkansas.
13:30Do you have motion on the floor to adopt council?
13:36Anyone in council chambers?
13:39I don't see anyone as well.
13:41If you would please go ahead and cast your ballot.
13:47Okay, and that resolution does carry as well.
13:49Now we'll move on to items on new business.
13:54We have an ordinance on its first reading.
13:56This is ordinance 26020.
14:00Suspend the rules and offer by title only.
14:03We do have a motion and the second on the floor.
14:05All in favor say aye.
14:09An ordinance amending appendix 7 of the stormwater drainage design manual.
14:13Have any questions by council?
14:17Anyone in council chambers?
14:20I don't see any as well.
14:22That'll now move on to its second reading.
14:24Now we'll move on to ordinance 26022.
14:28Move is suspend the rules and order for butt title only.
14:31And motion and floor and a second.
14:33Um any questions by council, we'll go ahead and approve them.
14:37All in favor say aye.
14:41An ordinance to amend chapter 117, Article 3, known as the zoning ordinance of the city of Jonesboro, Arkansas, providing for a change in zoning boundaries from C3 General Commercial District to RM12 LUL Multifamily Residential District with limited use overlay for property located at 2038 North Church Street, Jonesboro, Arkansas is requested by NK and Sons Investment.
15:01Any questions by council?
15:06Anyone in Council Chambers?
15:10Anyone in Council Chambers?
15:14I don't see any, so that will now move on to its next reading.
15:18Now we'll move on to ordinance 26025.
15:21Move suspend the rules and offer buck title only.
15:24We'd have a motion and second on the floor.
15:26All in favor say aye.
15:40Any questions by council?
15:44Anyone in council chambers?
15:48Don't see any as well.
15:49Now that'll move on to its next reading.
15:52Now we'll move on to item seven.
15:54These are items on unfinished business.
15:56These are ordinances on the second reading.
15:58The first ordinance is ordinance 26017.
16:02An ordinance modifying ordinance 24037, which established and consolidated special traffic patterns near Jonesboro Public School campuses.
16:16Anyone in council chambers?
16:19I don't see any as well, so that ordinance will now move on to its third reading.
16:24Now we'll move on to ordinance 26019.
16:28An ordinance by the City of Jonesboro to place various traffic signs at designated locations as determined by the traffic control committee.
16:34Any questions by council or concerns?
16:39Anyone in council chambers?
16:42I don't see any as well.
16:43So that'll move on now to the third reading.
16:46Now we'll move on to ordinance 26021.
16:49An ordinance to amend Chapter 117, Article 3, known as the zoning ordinance of the City of Jonesboro, Arkansas, providing for changes in zoning boundaries from R 3 to C3 for property located at 2911 Browns Lane.
17:00Any questions by council or comments?
17:05Anyone in council chambers?
17:08I don't see any as well.
17:09So that'll move on now to its third reading.
17:12And now we'll move on to ordinance on the third reading.
17:14We have one ordinance this evening that will be voted on by council, ordinance 26018.
17:20Make a motion to table temporary until August 4th.
17:23There have been some new business developments come on this, and they've asked for a little bit more time.
17:36All in favor say aye.
17:42Now we'll move on to Mayor's notes.
17:46First, I want to start with update on some important infrastructure projects.
17:51Our multi-million dollar street maintenance and overlay program is well underway.
17:56And as of uh today, crews have overlaid portions or all of you all ready?
18:02Barbara Ann, South Culver House, Huntington, West Jefferson, Lesleanne, South Madison, Marzianne, South McClure, West Monroe, Nesbitt, Olive, Tony Ann, Union, Walnut, Warner, West Washington.
18:16Overlays will soon begin on Walnut, Vine, Floyd, Burke, Twin Oak Street, Andrews Cove, Timberlake Cove, West College Avenue.
18:25So these are quite a few streets, and I will follow and keep you updated as we move on to additional streets as they come about.
18:32The Arkansas Highway Department is also actively investing in Jonesboro.
18:37Martin Luther King Eastern Bypass is approximately 72% finished with an updated completion date in late winter, early spring of 2027.
18:47The Highway 5351 airport overpass is approximately 88% complete.
18:53Highway 351 north and south intersection improvements are approximately 57 per complete.
18:59Those improvements are estimated to be finished in the fall of 2027.
19:04So the next step will be widening 351 from Pleasant View to Peachtree.
19:09That is currently expected to start in 2027.
19:12The Southwest Drive and Parker Road intersection improvements are almost 25 percent complete.
19:18The Harrisburg and Parker Road improvements and widening project is just started and it's approximately 2% complete.
19:26The new highway 351 connector road that city partnered with Arkansas State University and the state of Arkansas is currently on the planning stage.
19:34Those planning stages are about 60 percent complete.
19:38Groundwork is underway on our new 911 center.
19:41The pedestrian street improvements project on Johnson Avenue are underway.
19:46And last week we had an open bid on the South Caraway Road Improvement Project.
19:50That big came in on target with internal construction cost estimates.
19:55All items are funded by our revenue bond.
20:00These projects represent more than total 125 million dollars in infrastructure improvements happening right now in Jonesboro.
20:05All projects we will see come online within the next three years or so.
20:11So I want to thank you to council for helping make these projects happen.
20:16And now a few items that don't involve pavement or concrete.
20:19I want to congratulate council members Janice Porter and Kevin Miller at the recent AML summer convention.
20:25They were honored for completing their level one and level two civil Pedia certification respectively.
20:31I appreciate their dedication to taking every opportunity to be available and expand their civic knowledge to continue providing incredible constituent services.
20:40The street department and breaking bonds are focusing on cleaning up litter for our drainage ways and roadsides despite the heat.
20:48This includes current hand cleaning, uh picking up at Turtle Creek, hats off to the hard work they do each day, and a big thumbs down to those who feel that they need to throw trash out the window.
21:00Quite frankly, I'm tired of it.
21:02We work too hard in this community to be proud of it.
21:06And I'm tired and tired of people dumping litter in the city that we live in.
21:12If you see these individuals, report these individuals.
21:17We plan to do enhanced patrols along roadways, and we have repeat issues, and we're gonna write tickets to anyone who makes the choice to litter in our streets.
21:27I do want to offer a pat on the back to one of the neighbors, the city of Paragall for recently being designated as one of the fastest percentage growth cities in the state.
21:37Listen, we need to continue to work together in this region to promote Northeast Arkansas, and I look forward to seeing all our region, including Jonesboro grow.
21:46Not only does it open the door for more federal funding, but it creates more economic opportunities for our local businesses.
21:52Keep Jonesboro Beautiful is finalizing plans for a planned Jonesboro public input meeting on Thursday, August 6th.
22:00It's at Lost Pizza and keep an eye out for those final details in the last couple days.
22:06Work has also been completed on upgrades to our tornado siren system, so it won't go off on its own.
22:13Where is uh I don't see him in here and Ronnie's not here.
22:17While it wasn't without a hiccup, the end result is now an improved system with better connections, coverage, and dependable activation.
22:24And no, the tone of the sirens has not changed.
22:27It's hot outside and will continue to be hot outside for a while.
22:31So please keep your pets in mind during this time.
22:33Make sure they have more water, but not as much peanut butter.
22:36If your dog is like mine, they stay out in the heat too long.
22:40And please check on the elderly neighbors and relatives to ensure they're okay.
22:45Last and most importantly, the annual stuff the bus event will be August 1st this year, next Saturday at Area Walmart.
22:53Thank you to the United Way for heading up this important and heartfelt program.
22:57And I encourage each of us to donate and help select children in the need before school starts back.
23:04Also, council, your monthly reports are now on the table that we promised last week, so please pick those up, and that'll give you updates of every department that we have in the city.
23:15That is the end of the mayor's report.
23:18So next we'll move on to City Council report.
23:26Nothing at this time.
23:32Maybe I've got to say as someone who lives downtown having all the roads repaved after City Water and Light went through and made the sewer repairs.
23:41It's been pretty rough down there for the last year and a half.
23:44So I appreciate it getting on it and getting that done.
23:50Uh yeah, as I said earlier, um I've I've got some questions, and I really just need clarity.
23:57I'm not trying to belabor this or make a big deal out of it, but I do need some clarity.
24:02Um recently I've I've been accused of being being non-transparent, and there have been some individuals within this community that have questions my question my ethics in regard to my daughter being on a swim team and me being involved in the contract.
24:22My name's Chris Gibson.
24:23I'm a city councilman.
24:25I'm the chair of the public services committee, and I do have a daughter that swims on a local swim team.
24:31I was involved very little in some contract word verbiage here recently in regard to the two swim teams here locally and lane usage, and it was directed completely toward public safety.
24:46My question is do I need to recuse myself of everything that any of my family is involved in?
24:54I have abstained from being involved in their board because of conflict of interest.
25:00My daughter walks on sidewalks.
25:02My daughter plays in parks.
25:04My daughter soon will be driving on our city streets.
25:08If I need your accused of everything, then I need to step down as the chair of public services.
25:14So I need some clarity.
25:16Thank you, Councilman, for your comments.
25:25I think that as a general rule, what the rule is is it's considered a conflict of interest if you or a family member could in some way benefit financially from the vote.
25:39So I personally would not interpret being on a swim team.
25:44I mean, I do see it similarly as playing in a park or that we vote on improving parks equipment or things like that.
25:50Um being on a swim team, I don't see how you probably it's a financial detriment based upon my experience with you sports, but um I don't think that you would benefit financially from that, and therefore I would not see it as a conflict.
26:03I think the general rule is does a council member, does the mayor do myself or April benefit financially from this?
26:09And if so, we disclose that and you know refrain from participating in any discussions or conflicts that could arise from that.
26:19But I don't see that as what I would interpret as a conflict, just off the top of my head.
26:31One thing just I was having this conversation, Mayor.
26:35I think it touches to uh trying to help keep our community clean.
26:39Um we talked about a few years back looking at going from yard debris having to be put in paper bags.
26:46Um I feel like that is something we need to we need to get it done and go ahead and get over the fitness line.
26:52Um there's some other cities, uh Conway, Fayetteville, um, Little Rock, uh, Bitville, uh they have that requirement, and I think it's something we should go ahead and switch to.
27:04So I I don't know what the old ordinance or where it's at, or um, but I think we should bring that back and yeah, maybe get that to public safety.
27:13We'll look into that.
27:16All right, thank you.
27:18If I recall the holdup, it was making sure we had enough available for our citizens.
27:22I mean, that's what we're doing.
27:23You know, before we implemented the up at Lowe's or that was when it was early, yeah, you know, and they weren't just everywhere.
27:28I mean I can buy them, yeah.
27:30Yeah, there are a number of considerations I think that our sanitation department has given to that.
27:34Uh and what uh we we've gotten over the hump of availability of bags, you know.
27:38We have handed out bags, we still have bags that are available for the public uh to utilize.
27:43We were trying to make sure that we were could get on a schedule uh that we can pick up paper bags quicker than we were uh the plastic bags because of the deterioration factor with the paper bags, and then lastly, we were in trying to ensure educate and ensure that the public was well aware of uh the change uh until the last item that uh the sanitation uh department and I have spoken about with the mayor is a date.
28:08Uh so the ordinance is prepared.
28:10We're just trying to get a date in there so that we have adequate time for the public to make that adjustment uh to paper without the outcry uh that we anticipate uh will come from some in our community.
28:25But uh the labor intensive myth mechanism that we have with uh plastic uh and the inability to uh burn plastic it whether that's in an open pit, whether that's in an incinerator, we cannot burn p plastic according to current uh state laws, and so uh that that ordinance has been drafted is just a matter of finalizing a date and getting that through a process.
28:53That's all I got, Dr.
28:58Um you can charge it to my ignorance for not being here maybe the last meeting or two um for personal reasons, but um I saw the email today regarding the shelter building, and I I did respond with a question.
29:11I just want to make certain that uh mayor and others understand um my thoughts.
29:19You know, the last time we talked about the JPD needing a building, it was two particular buildings and they were being leased, and then now you're saying the shelter building and purchasing it for I think right at three million, and so my concern is we spending a lot, spending, spending, spending.
29:41Um what's the plan really?
29:45Because I do think and I am a believer that our JPD needs a house.
29:50They need a full house.
29:52We keep talking about it, but I don't hear a plan about it.
29:56And so uh I think we need to address that along with asking us to consider purchasing another building.
30:02So I just need to wrap my head around that that whole thing.
30:06We don't have to talk about it today.
30:07I just want to make certain that it's shared and that we can have discussions about it.
30:14Well, that's that's the whole intent of um, of course, you council being aware that I'm asking questions from council.
30:21What are your concerns?
30:22What are your questions?
30:23And of course, I don't think any of us at this table ever expected that we'd have a facility that would be inoperable.
30:29So you have to adjust off your plan accordingly every now and then.
30:32And so these are things that we're gonna have to make adjustments in the community, and that's what the FAQ will do, and I appreciate your comments.
30:39So we'll answer those questions.
30:42So let me let me say this because you said plan, and that's the thing that I've been saying.
30:47I haven't heard the actual plan.
30:50And I'm talking about the plan for the JPD having a facility that will house them.
30:58That's what we'll bring through with the FAQ.
31:07Uh question, uh, Mayor.
31:10I I was reading about Fort Smith having a problem with, I guess folks are bussing homeless people into Fort Smith and they're having to take action.
31:18Have we seen any problems like that here?
31:20Nothing I'm aware of.
31:22Um matter of fact, I think we've seen kind of a downturn a little bit.
31:26I haven't um I drive a lot, and um I haven't seen as much.
31:31You got anything to add to that?
31:39From time to time, there's always transient people in and out uh as far as a huge influx of different faces that we normally see on the street corners, uh, not really a whole lot of difference.
31:52Uh so nothing's really standing out.
31:54Uh we can certainly check with uh shelters that provide needs to these individuals and see if there's new faces in town, but uh like the Hope Foundation over on Fisher Street, but uh to my knowledge uh we've not seen that.
32:09And since the borders have shut down, uh we've seen a decrease in illegal immigrants uh coming into our area, also that was in fact a bigger problem, and then just to the homeless issue, and a lot of them are being bussed up to this part of the state and dumped by the busloads in uh nearby counties and Fort Smith may have more of an issue being on the border of Oklahoma, who knows?
32:37I'm just must keep our eye on Fort Smith and keep her eye here.
32:40So thank you, Mayor.
32:43I'll contact the mayor there.
32:44I know him well, so I'll contact him and get a follow-up with you.
32:53All right, now we'll go to item number 10.
32:55These are items for public comments, and we do allow the public to come forward.
32:58Uh you have up to five minutes, it's limited to three individuals to speak on whatever you'd like to speak on that wasn't addressed earlier.
33:06If you would anybody, yes, ma'am.
33:08Please come forward, state your name and address.
33:11You can move the mic down a little bit.
33:13You think I need to.
33:15Um, Melissa Baldwin, 927 West Matthews.
33:19And I would like to start with a positive note.
33:25Richardson and Chief Elliott from meeting with Miss Slicer and I to talk about an issue that we have, and not only the two of us, but we've talked for I have talked to some other people and have the same issue.
33:37Um being a 927 West Matthews, I invite keeping it on a positive note.
33:44Thank you for the roads.
33:48And thank you for the sidewalks.
33:49You will never hear a West Ender gripe about the sidewalks.
33:53We've got bikers, we've got trikers, we've got dog walkers, we've got well, I don't say people walkers, but I mean people that walk, uh runners, it's fantastic.
34:04That being said, and I do feel like I come from the best neighborhood in Jonesboro.
34:09One of the oldest, and one of the best, and making baby steps, getting better and better and better.
34:14But there is a bit of a blunt.
34:17And um, and I don't blame the city.
34:21I believe this is about Airbnbs, and I blame the host.
34:27It's not the city, it's the host.
34:29And as we all know, you've got good host and you've got bad hostess and everything.
34:35And so after speaking with you kind people, I I started researching more and it says Arkansas has no statewide licensing system or unified rule book for Airbnbs or short-term rentals.
34:49Instead, state law prevents outright bans, which is fine, but leave specific regulations, codes, and permitting up to individual cities and counties.
35:02I like them not against them, not against them in Jonesboro.
35:07I'm like I said, you gotta be good though.
35:10Um and that led me to some questions.
35:14And I I gave you all these, and like I said, please disregard the misspelled words and the typos.
35:19It was one in the morning.
35:22Um a lot of this falls on Darrell planning and zoning.
35:27It seems like they kept mentioning planning and zoning and everything I looked up.
35:31And are the host or the Airbnb services aware of our codes and regulations, or or do we have codes and regulations, specific ones?
35:43Is there a list of them that if so, could I at some time get a list of what what they are?
35:51Um that's my first one.
35:54The emergency phone number.
35:56Well, that's that's great.
35:59I mean, it is, but the police can't be everywhere all the time, and they don't know there's an emergency there until a neighbor calls and says, Hey, we've got an emergency going on in this neighborhood.
36:13And we were talking to one of our council people, and I was fussing and another neighbor was uh concerned about it.
36:21We didn't call the emergency hotline because I I wasn't dying, I mean at that point, uh, and I sat on the line for 20 25 minutes, and as I did, party got bigger and bigger and more out of control and more out of control.
36:41I have been told, advised since then to call the emergency number because it does get out of control.
36:49Um three, how many, and this this was touched upon after the last meeting, how many legitimate complaints are allowed for these bed and breakfasts to lose their license or Airbnbs.
37:06Is there a set number?
37:08Because I'm I know Chief Elliott over there, I know he must have gotten 200 calls one day at least, and it was legitimate complaints, very legitimate complaints.
37:22It should not have been going on in our neighborhood.
37:26So is there any way that they can be?
37:31I know some of the bigger cities have huge fines, huge fines, but at some point if they just keep doing this over and over again, they've got to lose their license, and they just can't continue doing that.
37:47Um I feel like the host has a responsibility to the neighbors to be to thoroughly vent his renters.
38:01You don't let a rapper rent your house, put it on Facebook, we're doing a video.
38:10I'm from Blyval, which he's been back here, and he's not very savory.
38:16I'm doing I'm doing a video, and I'm renting a house, and if you want to be in my video, come on down.
38:24That's not acceptable.
38:27There is a business next door to that house.
38:31That parking lot is packed.
38:35I would guess, of course, my husband's back here and he said, You're exaggerating.
38:40I would say probably 50, 60 cars.
38:52I'm not I'm exaggerating.
38:54I I mean it it was packed.
38:56So um I just would like to know, like I said, if there's a list and to possibly to meet with you all again and see what we can do, because it's not just my neighborhood, it's not just Miss Slicer's neighborhood.
39:13There was another little lady sitting over here, and she had to leave.
39:16It was her neighborhood.
39:18And it's it's not all Airbnbs, it's not all neighborhoods, but it's it's a problem we have.
39:27And I don't, you know, Carol Ms.
39:29Baldwin, yeah, your your time is up, and I know it.
39:36Everybody knows I talk fast.
39:38Well, no, I and what I want to say is too.
39:41I know that the earlier meeting were you here, I noticed that several of uh the residents were here earlier, and I know the meeting before it was kind of alluded to.
39:48And Carol, do you want to add something there?
39:51Yeah, we don't normally, but I know a lot of you have the same questions.
39:53So I want to point you in our code.
40:00Um, if you start at section 42-146 and go down from there, it talks about short-term rentals, what what they're required in order to get their privilege license.
40:08Um, what they have to post their permit, and then 42-150 talks about the revocation of that privilege license.
40:18And it says that we require them to have a designated local agent or local contact person.
40:25We talked about that a little bit earlier.
40:27But if they're unresponsive or unable to be contacted, and the owner doesn't remedy the issue, that's a grounds for revocation of their privilege license.
40:36If the property is deemed a nuisance by the mayor or his or her designee, factors which may be considered in deeming the property a nuisance include but are not limited to criminal activity on the premises, repeated complaints of loud noise on the premises, trash or debris on the premises, parking of cars in areas not designated for parking, so that might not the parking lot across the street might not count.
40:58Um, such as on the yard or grass or in such a way as to impede traffic on the street, and then failure to post their current privilege license permit on all online or other rental advertising.
41:10And of course, they have a right to appeal that if we revoke their privilege license.
41:13But those are the general guidelines.
41:15So there's not like a set, you know, 15 noise complaints.
41:19It's just repeated complaints of loud noise.
41:22So more than one incident.
41:26Apparently, what what I got?
41:28It said recommended for an area of this size, Jones for Arkansas.
41:32And it gave out and put the recommendations on the back, and it was spelled wrong.
41:35That was spelled wrong too.
41:36But apparently, those those are what you've got.
41:39So some of them are very similar to what we've already adopted.
41:41And like I said, the biggest problem is finding them, making sure that they have a privilege license to even have something to revoke.
41:50Um and then enforcing it.
41:53You have to put teeth in the privilege license.
41:54And and determining whether it's worth expending money on a service that can do that for us.
41:59Like I said, they were surprisingly expensive to me.
42:03Um, but we're doing that research to see if that is something we you know might it might be worth council looking at to invest in.
42:10Um keep me up today.
42:13But I did want to point you to that section and the key is for neighbors to call them in so that we first of all know that they're there to determine whether they have a privilege license, and second of all, we can try to deal with the issue and talk to the owners and explain what our rules are about short-term rentals.
42:34You're well appreciated.
42:37Do you have a different subject?
42:39Or is it the same same met with her as well?
42:42Let's don't be redundant then with the no, it is not redundant.
42:45Okay, and I will speak, please.
42:47Um, I'm Karen Slicer.
42:49I live at 5709 Slimbirds Drive here in Jonesboro.
42:54David McLean, Councilmember Klein and I live in the same neighborhood.
42:58The party that I'm going to speak about.
43:02The party that took place, the party that took place on May 16th that I'm going to speak about.
43:07There's exactly two houses between him and the Airbnb.
43:11So I will tell you also full disclosure that I might be a little nervous because I'm not used to speaking, but before it says prestigious people.
43:20And so anyway, and also disclosure, I am the HOA board chair for our neighborhood, which is not truly an honor.
43:34May 16th, there was a terrible, terrible party in our neighborhood.
43:40And I was gone that night working in a veteran's dinner.
43:43And so Sunday morning I looked at my phone, and I had had the volume down because I was at a uh someplace where I didn't, and I as forgetful as I am, I forgot to turn the volume back up.
43:54Sunday morning, I had scads of messages and calls.
44:00This party that went on.
44:02The people live in Fayetteville.
44:04They used to live, of course, on the street.
44:06This is not much of a concern to them.
44:09But I will tell you there's nine-eight homes in our neighborhood.
44:13Uh this caused a lot of havoc and fear.
44:16Drugs, bear bottles being thrown in other people's houses.
44:22People blocking the street.
44:24The police had to be called.
44:25One policeman came out, he could not handle it because these people refused to move their cars from blocking the street.
44:33So more people were called.
44:34There was four three or four dispatchers working on this call.
44:38Um this house is on Smithfield, it's worth about maybe 475,000 dollars, and that's been turned into an Airbnb.
44:45This is at least in J Jason Stinnett that owned the house.
44:49They now live in Fayetteville.
44:51Um we've had trouble ever since the very moment that they decide to make this into an Airbnb.
44:56This was not the only time, but this was the worst time.
45:00Street was I went down the next morning street all the way around the curve, Councilman claimed was broken glass, beer bottles, stubs.
45:09I've never smoked pot, don't know what it looks like, but I was informed a lot of those stubs were pot.
45:15Um you can still smell it.
45:18So the police, as I said, were called, they could not handle the one policeman couldn't handle it.
45:24This went on till after five in the morning.
45:26We had women that were alone with their children that were terrified because these cars were driving through yards and around houses.
45:34They had no business being there.
45:37Um so as HOA board chair, I'll tell you, I'm not as sweet as she is.
45:42I'm a little bit sour.
45:44I fully intend to pursue ways to strengthen the laws, increase fines in order to keep the Jonesboro neighborhoods safe.
45:51We have a beautiful neighborhood, but that's beside the point.
45:54All neighborhoods, regardless of the class of people or the class that we think they're in, deserve to be safe and to be able to have peaceful evenings.
46:04So when meeting with you all, I appreciated that so much.
46:10But an event where they advertise the party is illegal, they charge.
46:15People come from everywhere, they act like fools.
46:20Um so anyway, I think they need to follow the ordinances and requirements.
46:25If an air, what I what I've looked up is an event at a house, it's taxed like a hotel.
46:32And if it's taxed like a hotel, then by golly, it is a hotel.
46:39So anyway, talk about leaving the lights on at a hotel.
46:42They were on for 24 hours.
46:44So according to the Airbnb, he called the police and asked them to remove all the party.
46:49He has a camera, he got a lot of calls himself in Fayetteville.
46:53He asked the police to remove the people, and in meeting with you all, we found out that the police cannot remove people under that circumstance, is what we understood.
47:03Not the people that actually rented it.
47:05Now the rest of the people that rented it.
47:08I'm sorry, it's wrong.
47:10So uh lastly, I will just say that um our board, we have we have an attorney, we're strengthening our bylaws.
47:17Um, but what I need for the city council to do is realize that number one, we're not going away.
47:22Number two, that I will be willing to work with you.
47:25I do have some ideas on representatives and things, and I will be willing to work with you as Ms.
47:32And I have quite a few neighbors here.
47:35So we will work with you uh to figure out how to anyone operating these short-term hotels.
47:41You know, we need respect, we need peace.
47:44Uh, and we won't be appeased or placated.
47:46So we expect to want a solution, but we will help you work at that solution.
47:51And period time, yes, sir.
47:54If you would please come forward, state your name, an address.
47:58808 Glocks for Close at Bridger Place.
48:01I was up that morning and it's like 430.
48:04Um, and I heard the screams and stuff from the other side like the neighborhood, and I knew you know something that we don't really hear, so uh I called 911, and by the time I got in the truck and went to the stops at the end of uh bridge and close or bridger uh drive.
48:20I looked at the left and I'd already seen the cop cars down there.
48:23I saw all the people when the cars were more on this drive.
48:26I was like, I told dispatchers like this, send everybody you got send more.
48:29There was the city, please, here's the sheriff's department, tow trucks.
48:35I looked to the right towards that house, the cars are parked in the yards.
48:41I mean, it was just I don't know.
48:43I know our neighborhoods been through the tornado.
48:46Uh for one, I mean police fire everybody, they did not get paid to deal with that kind of crap.
48:51You know, we invested a lot of my parents a ton of time and money into that neighborhood.
48:56Um he was out there on foot.
48:59Well, we didn't have any pyro bows or lots after the tornado.
49:02I mean, we were trying to keep it as safe as possible.
49:04A lot of people work at steel mills, then their wife's kids are at home, and then you have like she said, you're gonna turn it into just a party.
49:13I mean, I know somebody needs to do something.
49:17Something needs to go.
49:18Because I mean, I know when they come in our neighborhood, I don't know if they come on our property.
49:22Lead poison is very deadly.
49:24And when they come to that kind of party back again, I mean, if they come over the grass, they're on our property, and we'll do what we've got to do.
49:30We're gonna put up with it.
49:32So I think it'd be safer if you all do and I and I will add too, we've already uh ended our we have three minutes left in our 15 minutes.
49:41So just a minute, Miss Lack.
49:43Um I think it's also imperative that we realize these are expenditures that come on the city as well.
49:49And so um that's very costly when these events occur in our community uh because we have to obviously provide the resources to make that happen when they need to be somewhere else.
50:00So yes, ma'am, you've got three minutes.
50:02Mayor, before she speaks, I just quick question for Carol.
50:06Obviously, these two events were heavily reported to the police.
50:10What action or what penalties became of that case?
50:15I couldn't answer what ticket might have been written that night.
50:19We're still re-argent and that we wanted to get all our documentaries before we reach up to the owners of the property.
50:25Chief there are rest made vehicles towed and the party subsequently disbanded.
50:29But as they said, it it took a lot of resources to to handle the situation, but uh there was action taken, and as Ms.
50:39Duncan alluded to, that we cannot forcibly make the person that leased or rented the place to leave, but we can the other occupants, and essentially that's what happened.
50:50So big problem, it took a little bit to get addressed.
50:54Obviously, they left a path of destruction in the process.
50:58But uh as they alluded to, uh we did have earlier meeting uh to discuss this, and uh as discussed in public safety, we're looking at other ways to amend our current ordinances, uh maybe get a little bit more teeth into uh what we have in place.
51:16I know Miss Duncan is doing research uh across the state, uh other Airbnbs on how the police handle situations when they arise there.
51:24So this is a problem since uh it has come to light.
51:28Uh I brought up there were some other issues we've had besides these two.
51:32Uh so it's kind of becoming a problem.
51:35Uh historically in Jonesboro, we've seen these what called pop-up parties take place and uh abandoned buildings or buildings not maybe empty, and somebody will rent it to them for a night to throw a pop-up party, and we hammered down on that pretty hard along with our fire marshals.
51:55So now the end result is they resorted to going to Airbnbs and uh hosting the party until it gets shut down.
52:04That's essentially what's happened.
52:05There won't throw a party until we come along and run the fund and shut it down, but it's a at the expense of the these own homeowners, you know, losing their sleep and and destruction of the property and neighborhood.
52:19So uh very good dialogue tonight on on the topic, and uh we are currently looking at it, and uh I agree with these individuals that uh I'm looking to do what we can to put more teeth into it.
52:34And I think there's a lot of top, a lot of discussion in the earlier meeting about the number of people that could be there on the lease and have have a little more enforcement on that end.
52:45So I think there's some things that's coming that will address this for not only their neighborhood but across the city because I know of two other areas where we had the same problem.
52:57It is here, but I will say that not to defend any bad short-term rental owners.
53:04But what I think we also find is you know they're reading it in different names.
53:10So you may have had you know John Doe who threw the 300 person party, and you're like, Well, I'll never rent the John Doe again.
53:16Well, John Doe's probably not the person who's on the rental agreement next time.
53:19It's Sally Smith, but Sally Matthew.
53:24Yeah, I would leave that name out, but I'm not blaming them.
53:27They worked the system party, but so some like any law we have or any rules we have, people learn to work the system.
53:33So we always have to stay on top.
53:35I was thinking at a much simpler level.
53:37I was thinking about uh disturbing the peace, illegal parking, all of those.
53:42Just the basic small things you blow in there and ride everybody up for that, and you know, all of that our noise ordinance, all of that still available.
53:52All applicable still.
53:53Yeah, I mean, because we passed a uh decibel noise ordinance.
53:58So I mean still have that.
54:00Then I assume if it's like I didn't recognize her as Ruth, I call her Missy, but as Missy said, I would assume there was illegal parking in people's yards.
54:09There was that particular night, uh the party grew pretty quick.
54:12And uh as she alluded to, that yes, I received several phone calls from people in the West E.
54:18I think along with uh the mayor's staff and and the mayor, uh, and we put resources into it, and of course it took a little bit to get it defused and get it moved out, and but you know, w we got it done.
54:33Same thing in their their neighborhood, yeah.
54:36It may have started out with one officer, but you know, it took additional resources, which takes away from other calls, uh, because we have to pour everything into, and then with the help of the sheriff's office, uh, you know, coming to help disperse the big party.
55:00And again, the problem is not people from Jonesboro necessarily, it's out-of-towners coming in and taking advantage of our amenities and hosting these parties, and then from there they hit the some of our convenience stores and gather on lots and cause problems till three or four in the morning.
55:09So it's like playing whack-a-mo all night on some of these weekends that we'll start out with a party, we'll bust it up, they'll gather on the parking lot over here, and we have to go over and bust it up until they finally get tired of us and go back to their respective how homes, you know, outside of Jonesboro, other counties, other cities.
55:29So, not a new problem, it's just they're taking a different approach by going to the Airbnbs for their pop-up parties and which includes us videos and all that.
55:43If you would please come forward, state your name and address yeah, Patty Lack, 4108 Porse Hill Road, and this is a request to you, Mayor Copenhaver, and to all you city council people, and also to to Darrell Smith.
55:59Is that today at the BZA meeting is that there was one of the variances being requested, and this was to put the uh TSC store in the old Fred's building.
56:11And they had the plan and they were asking for three variances.
56:14They got two of them, and the third one came up, and it pertained to the road that is behind where Gina's is, and apparently that is a private road, and there was some solutions to it, but they left there knowing that guess what, we're not gonna have a TSC store because that TSC store is going to go probably to Brooklyn or it's gonna go to Paragol.
56:38And the downfall that we have here for the city is that we're gonna lose a lot of tax dollars and we're gonna lose a really good store.
56:45So I don't know if you mayor and all you council people can review that a little bit and maybe work with the applicant and see how that can work out.
56:53Because it wasn't a huge issue, but I think if we lose that store, I think there's gonna be sales tax dollars, but also too, that's one more store that we're not gonna have here in town.
57:05And the reason why they're moving is that the location that they have over there on Redwoof Boulevard, they're gonna move to a bigger store or a location.
57:13The parking lot is gonna be better too.
57:15So I hope Mayor, you can work with the applicant there, and we can keep that store here in Jonesboro.
57:22All right, that's the end of public comments.
57:26Next we move on to item 11.
57:27This is adjournment.
57:30Motion in favor, all in favor, say aye.