The meeting will come to order.

Our guest chaplain is Pastor Jason Cooley.

I don't need to get that bad vibe.

Officer Jason Cooley of the Kansas City Police Department, who does work with all of our KCPD chaplains.

Would all who can please who can please stand for the invitation and remain standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Brother Cooley.

Thank you, Mayor.

Good afternoon, everybody.

I gotta find my spot.

I got a quick uh notification of this.

So the first thing that came to mind, and it just seems like life is in a state of chaos right now, just around the world.

So the first thing that came to mind for me was peace.

So if we could just bow our heads real quick.

Definitely, Father, we just thank you for this day, Lord God, and we just pray for a peace.

A peace, Lord God, that only you can give.

An unexplainable peace that that transcends understanding.

Father, we pray that over our city today.

Pray that over our leaders today, as they make the very important decisions that are before them as we move things forward for the greater good of our communities.

Father, we love you.

We praise you, and we thank you in your precious name.

Amen.

Amen.

Congratulations.

One nation.

Clerk will call the roll.

Yes, sir.

Raya.

Here.

Bunch.

Here.

Pearls.

Present.

Quartshaw.

Present.

Boo.

Here.

Here.

O'Neal.

Here.

Will it?

Present.

French?

Here.

Rogers.

Here.

Patterson Hasley.

President Robinson.

Here.

Lucas.

Here.

13 members present.

Well, Clerk, please call the special action.

Yes, sir.

250952, honoring Dr.

David Vanberg on his retirement from nearly 40 years of service to the Kansas City Health Department.

Dr.

Van Burger's present to receive the special action.

Mayor Pro Tim.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor.

It is my honor to rise today to honor Dr.

David Vanberger on his retirement from near the 40 years of service to the Kansas City Health Department.

He is a native of Kansas City and earned his bachelor's degree with the highest distinction in biochemistry from the University of Kansas in 1976, and his medical degree from Baylor College of Medicine in 1979.

He completed postdoctoral training at the University of Minnesota and then as an infectious disease and pulmonary physician in the city's tuberculosis clinic from 1987 to 2008.

He became uh medical director of the sexual health clinic in 2009, later adding oversight of the tuberculosis and travel health clinics in 2015.

He helped develop COVID-19 vaccine pro vaccine protocols and issued standing medical orders for vaccination.

Dr.

Vanberger also serves as professor of medicine and biomedical and health informatics at the UMKC School of Medicine and as section chief of infectious disease at University Health.

He is supported by his wife, Elizabeth and daughters Emily and Alyssa.

And he officially retired from the health department's contracted medical director service on October the 1st.

After decades of service, we honor you and congratulate you on your retirement and thank you so much for your level of service to the residents of Kansas City.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim.

Are there others who wish to speak to the resolution?

Harry Nunn, I'll just say this.

I had a chance to uh get to know the health department very well when I first became mayor, councilwoman Robinson, Councilwoman Boo, Councilman Bunch were with me through what was a very interesting time for our community.

We saw that y'all kept working and we actually learned the great work you have always been doing during that special time.

We wish you well in retirement, although we hope we can call you any time something may happen to break out because we know having someone with your wisdom is something very special for Kansas City.

If there are an others who wish to speak to the resolution, the resolution is now before council.

All in favor indicate by saying aye.

Aye.

All opposed.

Resolution is adopted.

Doctor.

Well, thank you.

It's quite an honor.

It's a great honor to have served the city in which I was born, not too far from the health department when it was back at Linwood and Basil.

And to see its growth.

And to uh continue its support.

Thank you.

Congratulations.

Congrats.

Congratulations, thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Thanks.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Next action.

250959.

Honoring the seven graduate companies of the 2025 Social Venture Studio Corps for champion invasive innovation and community impact in Kansas City.

GM Erickson and others.

Oh, you're proud of some make sure, you know, you can see some special.

So Councilwoman Boo.

We did a good job of surprising someone, I think.

Umor, it is uh my honor to honor the seven graduates.

Let's see how many times I can say honor today.

The seven graduate companies of the 2025 Social Venture Studio Cohort for championing championing inclusive innovation and community impact in Kansas City.

Social Venture Studio is powered by Launch KC and made possible by the collaboration between the Economic Development Corporation of Kansas City, the Downtown Council, and Keystone Innovative Innovation District.

Social Venture Studio is a national accelerator program that is uniquely designed to help start up startups address social, racial, and environmental issues within Kansas City.

Since the program's inception, it has graduated 21 ventures and earned local and national recognition.

It won the 2022 Excellent and Academic Development Award from the International Economic Development Council.

And this year's seven graduate companies are growing impressive businesses while simultaneously addressing pressing challenges within the city of Kansas City.

Jim is going to talk a little bit about each of the seven um companies that won this year, but each company has a culture of innovation and the potential to impact social, racial, environmental issues in Kansas City for the next generation.

We are so grateful for the preserv uh preserverance as entrepreneurs and the commitment to Kansas City, Missouri.

And I applaud each of you.

Thank you, Councilwoman Boo.

There are others who wish to speak to the resolution.

Here you don't have the resolution is now before council.

All in favor indicate by saying aye.

Aye.

All opposed.

Resolution is adopted.

Only reason we weren't speaking is because she said you're going to talk about seven uh entities.

So please proceed.

Thank you, Mayor Lucas.

Uh, and good afternoon.

I am Jim Erickson, Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Economic Development Corporation.

Today getting to speak on behalf of Social Venture Studio.

As Councilman Boo mentioned, Social Venture Studio is a partnership between Launch KC and also the Keystone Innovation District, who really plays the primary role of leading the program.

The goal of Social Venture Studios is to find companies that are addressing social needs in Kansas City, but doing so with a sustainable business model.

The motto is doing well by doing good.

And the seven companies that we had in Social Venture Studio this year are really a testament to that motto.

Briefly, we had Betsy B, a platform that supports crisis care and safety net pet advocacy programs by connecting them to resources during times of crisis.

We had NERU, a digital platform that centralizes therapeutic, medical, and educational records while offering community connections and resources to help families navigate developmental delays and disabilities.

We had Temple Made Fitness, an organization that combines literacy and wellness through fun hands-on events and activities that build healthy habits and literacy skills in children and families.

We had Uwazi, an AI-driven platform that enhances civic engagement by simplifying ballot language, supporting informed voting, and providing tools for nonprofits and civic groups.

Salubata, a company that creates modular shoes from recycled plastic waste using technology and sustainable design to significantly reduce a global carbon footprint, and sendback, a company that provides innovative reverse logistics in a waste reducing way.

So those are the seven companies that we were able to work with this year.

It was a fantastic cohort.

And so that was the doing good part.

The doing well part is also easy to see.

These companies represent seven of now 28 social ventures that Social Venture Studio has supported over the years.

And they're part of the overall launch KC portfolio of companies that have helped create 1,600 jobs and driven about 700 million dollars of investment to our community.

These companies and the others that have gone through Social Venture Studio and launched KC are truly the next job creators and uh economic impacts of Kansas City, and we're very, very proud of them.

So, on behalf of everyone associated with Social Venture Studio, Keystone EDC in the downtown council, I want to say thank you for this opportunity.

And I wasn't certain if there was anybody else who had some familiarity with City Council that may uh may want to say a few words.

I was gonna come up here and tell a terrible joke.

Um, but as I got up here, I got a little emotional, so this is for you.

Um you're the inspiration for Wazi and what I'm trying to do, all of you are.

Um we're in a tough time politically in this country, and um I wouldn't make this possible without people like you serving this city.

So, one thank you.

I'm about to cry.

Thank you, and then thank you to SBS, Keystone, and LaunchKC for all the support.

Thanks.

Oh, that's great.

Congratulations.

Thank you so much.

I hope you have supported.

Congratulations so much.

My son was on that.

Oh, awesome.

Congratulations.

Oh, awesome.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

Speaker.

Next action.

Yes, sir.

250960, acknowledging Veterans Day on November 11th in the United States and recognizing the contribution of Ron Cherry with a veteran of foreign wars to receive the special action.

Ron Cherry is present to receive the special action.

Councilman Duncan, honorable mayor, thank you so much.

Um it's it's it's interesting this this action today.

Uh, I feel incredibly honored to be able to honor somebody who I respect so much.

Um I'm gonna try not to get emotional.

Uh, next week is Veterans Day.

Um, as you all may know, uh, I'm a combat veteran.

I spent 10 years uh what it feels like growing up in the VFW national headquarters.

Um I had great mentors like like Ron Cherry, who we're going to recognize today, um, a veteran who has served but has continued to serve.

Uh Ron Cherry has been making what we say miracles happen on 406 West 34th Street for 25 years.

He is a veteran service officer, and for those of you who might not know what that means, um, if you serve honorably this country, the agreement is that this country is supposed to take care of you.

Umide you with the opportunity for medical care.

Um the challenge is that it often feels like jumping through hoops of fire in order to be able to get access to that care.

And veteran service officers like Ron Cherry help you through that process.

And it's a service that the veterans of foreign wars provides for free, not only to their members, but to any eligible veteran.

Ron Cherry does more than just provide you and help you through that process.

He helps retrieve your records, and he's also that person that you call when you don't know who else to call.

Um the Veterans of Foreign Wars, um, for those of you who don't know, uh, predates Veterans Day.

Uh the Veterans of Foreign Wars was founded in 1898.

It predates the VA, and it was the Veterans Halls was the place that you could be yourself without the criticism in the eyes of the outside world judging you for how you are trying to adjust back to everyday life after you've experienced something that most people haven't.

And about 1% of those serve in combat.

So the 1% of the 1% are what makes up the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

It's why I'm a proud member to this day.

I have a have my legacy life pin on today.

Um the veterans of foreign wars, and it's why I feel incredibly honored to recognize the work of Ron Cherry as a veteran service officer, but the work of all of our veteran service officers, because we have 2,000 credited accredited veteran service officers, not just in Kansas City, but all over the globe, who are helping veterans get their care, get access to this vital care that saves people's lives, that recoupes funds for veterans right now.

Some of the people who are being affected by lack of SNAP benefits today, a lot of those are veterans.

And so to be have access, granted access to that care is the incredible work that folks like Ron Cherry do each and every day.

But also what I know about Ron is that he continues to serve not with the veterans of foreign wars, but he continues to serve his community by helping develop young men.

He's a football coach.

He coached Simi Processfully, I might add.

And uh it's just true to Ron's character.

Uh I know Ron as just an incredible person who comes in each and every day.

He doesn't get involved with the drama of the V.

He goes in and he does his work.

He serves veterans, service members, and their families because he believes in that mission.

He could be anywhere.

But he's right here in Kansas City.

We're lucky to have him.

Um so this action would recognize Veterans Day and would recognize the incredible work of the Veterans of Foreign War Wars and uh would also recognize the incredible work of veterans like you service officers, Ron Cherry.

So thank you very much.

Thank you, Councilman Bunch.

Very well said.

Thank you for your service as well.

Are there others who wish to speak to the resolution?

Here, none of the resolutions now before now before council.

All in favor indicate by saying aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All opposed.

The resolution is adopted.

Sir, I believe you're gonna speak.

Um man, that's a hard act to follow.

Thanks, Jonathan, for those kind words.

Um behalf of the Veterans of Foreign Wars and our dedicated team of uh veteran service officers worldwide.

Um, I'm honored to accept this Veterans Day of Proclamation.

Uh, we're deeply grateful for this recognition.

Um, not for just ourselves, but for the men and women who who bore our nation's uniforms, um, who born the battle of of war, um, who promised to take care of our country to fight for our freedoms.

And uh this this means a lot to us just to to be recognized on this types of stage because uh the work that we do that the work that we do um it mostly goes unnoticed and to be recognized on a platform like this is it really means a lot to us.

And um, on behalf of um the 2000 Fifth Veterans Service Officers of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, I very much appreciate it and thank you for um honoring us on this day.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you all so much.

Thank you, Sars.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Absolutely.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Love you right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Appreciate you.

Thank you very much.

Absolutely.

Thank you all very much.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Appreciate you all.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

I'm gonna come outside.

Before we proceed, I will just acknowledge someone who detests attention.

Today is Officer Mackin Gates last day with us uh in the KCPD mayor's detail.

She hates all attention.

She also doesn't love snacks.

So I will give her my bag of cheese.

It's a little card.

She is off to uh police in the Schul Creek division.

She'll be a community interaction officer.

We wish you very well, and thank you for spending your time at City Hall.

You can even stay out of the TV shot, but I'll hand it to you.

We just want to acknowledge you and say thanks.

Well, Clerk, please call the final readings debate document.

Yes, sir.

250933, appropriating $800,000 from an unappropriate fund balance of the public safety sales tax fund to fund design professional service with community resource center project.

Authorizing manager of procurement services to execute $800,000 design professional service contract with multi-studio Inc.

for the design of Community Resource Center.

Designate requisition authority directing city manager to identify and report the cost of legal compliance in the request proposal for construction of the community resource center recognizes on this is having accelerated fact they take finance committee recommends to pass councilwoman boo honorable mayor um prior resolution 240896 directed the city manager to analyze the feasibility of develop developing parcels um in close proximity to the municipal courthouse for the purpose of our community resource center uh resolution 250232 directed the city manager to issue a request for qualifications slash proposals for the design of a community resource center.

The special committee on the municipal rehabilitation and detention center recommended that the public safety sales tax be used to construct a community resource center at a central location.

A community resource center will efficiently and effectively connect justice involved individuals and vulnerable residents with necessary resources and treatment, facilitating protection to resources and treatment will improve public safety and reduce recidivism by addressing root causes and unlawful behavior.

This resolution um we had some discussion last week about this resolution.

Um and I just want to make it clear that this resolution would provide funding for the concept plan.

There are a lot of questions about what this community resources might be.

It would provide the answers that we will need to move forward in this.

This gives us that opportunity to address the issues before people go into the criminal justice system.

It provides the opportunity to address those who are reintegrating into the system, and it does so at the municipal level before they are committing crimes that will provide harsher remedies and before they get into a situation where their life may be substantially off altered.

So this provides us the opportunity and gives the information that we can move forward.

We're not deciding the permanent financing for the facility.

We're not we don't need to do that now.

This will give us the options that we can make those decisions.

Finance and governance and public safety reviewed and I can't remember what we did, but we got to this for I don't know what we did.

What do we think?

Advanced and do pass.

Advance in D pass.

Thank you.

All right.

Um, are there is there any further discussion?

Councilwoman Patterson has.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor.

So there was some discussion about the funding source, primarily, um, not the goal, but just the funding source, and that we have a lot of big ticket items that we need to plan for.

Um, so I think that we should move forward with planning for the CRC, but um propose that we use a different funding source.

So if there's any um openness to discussing a different funding source, other further discussion.

No, but we just need to talk about it.

Okay.

I'd like to hear that.

Councilman Willis.

Okay.

I was just scratching my head.

Oh, gotcha.

We're good.

You're good.

Councilwoman French.

Uh I guess can you elaborate on the proposed uh funding?

Yes.

Um, I would I would propose that we fund the study for the CRC.

Um, half of that from the violence prevention fund and the other half from the third and fourth district PIAX.

That would get us to $620,000.

After speaking with the city architect, that was the number that uh we were given that was needed for the study.

That's the proposal's pie.

I don't go ahead.

Councilman Ray.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, this was the conversation Councilwoman Patterson Hasley and I had.

Um, and I do agree with this suggestion recommendation to keep this moving forward.

Frankly, I don't know if it has the votes in its current form to move forward.

And so we're trying to offer a solution that keeps this thing.

Councilman Rogers.

I think this is an outstanding solution, and I compliment the council people for coming up with it.

Councilman Duncan.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um we have had a lot of conversations about the CRC and the public safety sales tax.

Um we know that the community resource center is not separate from our public safety strategy.

Um we had a long conversation and didn't conduct community engagement as part of the rehabilitation and detention committee.

The rehabilitation and detention committee.

This is the rehabilitation side of the detention of the rehabilitation and detention plan.

Um yes, there are a lot of big ticket items that are coming out of the public safety sales tax, um, and I support your resolution, uh, Councilwoman Patterson Hasley to have a long larger conversation of what that's actually going to look like.

Um, however, this feasibility study to Councilwoman Boo's point gets us on even footing with the detention facility to talk about let's take it from simply an idea from you know the municipal court, councilman Rogers, and a few others of us based on some other other municipalities, and actually put it in the let's start planning out and working with stakeholders.

You know, we had a brief, Councilman Boo and I briefed the the community improvement districts, talked to the downtown council as well in a separate conversation and other stakeholders.

Let's have that stakeholder engagement to really get moving forward from just a concept to a real fleshed out plan that we can actually state how big how big is this need to be?

Um, where is it going to be, and what are the vital elements that we want in this so that we can actually have a more robust discussion when we have that larger conversation to say we have an idea how much this is going to cost.

Right now we don't even know because we haven't had that stakeholder engagement and a feasibility study and a concept plan is what the architects are calling it that has all of those meaty elements right now.

This is this is a fragment of a plan.

This gets us to an even footing for a fully fleshed out plan.

Um it is in line with the public safety sales tax goals and purpose.

It was talked about in conjunction to pass the tax.

Um I want to set the record straight.

That at no time when I said that I did not support the public safety sales tax, the reason was very clear.

The reason was because we were going to support a jail first, and the jail was going to cost so much money that it was not going to leave funds for rehabilitation.

And we were having those conversations now.

And I hate to say that I was right, but folks, I was right.

Let's have let's let's move forward with phase one.

Let's ensure that we have the framework to have a larger conversation about how much this this facility will cost.

This feasibility gets us to that first step.

There's $800,000 left in the public safety sales tax for this fiscal.

The conversation in finance committee uh assistant manager Tammy Queen stated that um to fund other things out of public safety sales tax, you can borrow from that fund, so that will not stall other things coming out of the public safety sales tax for the remainder of this fiscal.

But we should move forward today as this committee substitute is written.

Councilwoman Boo.

I I just wanted to clarify the what you were saying is 400 from the violence prevention fund, 200 from third district PIEC, and 200 from fourth district PIAC.

No.

620 total.

And uh 20 total.

Okay, that's that's what I would miss.

Right.

If I could and what's the breakdown?

Oh, go ahead.

Councilwoman Boo.

What was the breakdown of the 620?

So it is one half from a violence prevention fund, so 310,000, and then 310,000 separately from third and fourth district PIAC, meaning $155,000 from the two, because I can math.

No, I was off or whatever.

But there you go.

Council.

I could weigh in so $620,000 is I believe what multi-studio is given as the actual amount to get through this year or so planning process.

It came to committee as a request for $400,000 and then a separate $5.

The $5.00 million was removed.

$400,000 was doubled.

I'm not sure based on what, but according to multi-studio, it's actually $620,000, I believe, for the engagement planning and that design work.

$690.

Councilman Curls.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

But I think that he answered my question.

I was just trying to figure out how we went from $800,000 to $600 and whatever that number was.

I mean, that's that's the main purpose in the thing.

So I'm I'm still kind of not clear as to where we are on that proposal because we had serious discussion about that.

But I want to make sure that we go forward with the CRC.

And if if if it stays in the public safety sales tax, I think that that gives us the best possible avenue to do that in.

Thank you, Councilman Curls.

I would note that I hear you, and in many ways I'm in agreement.

This of course amendment would keep all that money in the public safety sales tax fund such that that ordinance to come later would then be able to be used through the plan that was made in committee.

Councilman Bunch.

Actually, never mind.

Thanks.

Mayor Proteil.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor.

Um so I uh strongly support the community resource center uh and the feasibility uh of uh doing a feasibility study.

I have problems in with the violence prevention fund uh because the violence prevention fund was established with a specific purpose to directly fund community-based programs that reduce shootings, reduce violent crime through intervention outreach and supportive services, whereas the feasibility study is more of uh of a planning tool, um, and it's not the same as violence prevention planning.

We already know that we don't have that the violence prevention fund isn't enough.

It wasn't enough when we did it, and so pulling from that for a planning feasibility study takes away from that excellent programming where we've already seen results, the programming like conflict mediation, trauma response, youth engagement, other activities.

Uh actually there's neighborhood um expansion of neighborhood programs that they will be doing, and so I do not support taking it from the violence prevention fund.

Um I don't know what discussions occurred that allow for the third and fourth district to use their PIAC dollars.

I don't know if if the other districts would be open to the you know, each district splits, you know, we all split the rest of that.

I don't know if that's a discussion or not, or if other districts have the ability to do that, but I would propose uh just another not pulling it from the violence prevention fund because we are seeing success there, and uh this and I we know that we already don't have enough dollars there.

So thank you.

Councilman Bunch.

Yeah, I I well just go ahead and share my thoughts here in that I you know I'm supportive of the concept that has just been discussed, but as a uh as a per as a fallback more or less.

Um if if we're uh um I I still think that this is the right approach.

Uh that's why I signed on as a sponsor.

Um I think that I I so I'll I'll just say that for what it's worth um I may try to hop in real quick if I may um and I'll try to just be quick for it.

Um we had I haven't changed any of my views that we talked about in finance committee.

I continue to believe PIAC is kind of about when folks are calling you about sidewalks and all types of other things, and this just doesn't quite seem it.

Now I mean I don't know if everybody in the districts that would contribute have all set they down with this.

You know, we haven't had time to have that chat.

Uh I do know that we did have a discussion on um public safety sales tax.

I think we did a lot of chat on this about how this is an appropriate fund source for it.

We talked about it during the campaign because as I recall, this all arose out of we weren't just going to build a jail and we told everybody that there would be other services relating to it, and just because we have in this project discussion, which I would prefer more time on, but we may not even be there.

Um just because we've taken that out of the jail facility itself doesn't mean that it left the whole discussion itself.

So we're we're solving a lot of issues that I don't know if we have the issue.

Um odd wrinkle though that I will say is I believe there are about $800,000 left in the um in the public safety sales tax fund for this year.

There's an ordinance later on the docket for $500,000.

What I would contend is we lop off 10,000, you spend the $300,000 remaining in public safety sales tax for this year on this project that that fills the place of the violence prevention fund.

Um and then if y'all end up using the PIAC funds, that's fine.

If not, it's not we all keep it moving with a a partial compromise.

But um for the reason that said, yeah, if somebody wants to fight for the PIAC, I'm down to fight with you too.

Um if that's what we're feeling.

I also really do remember when we came up with a violence prevention fund the reasons that we have it, all of the work there.

So that's that's just where I would be.

Alternatively, we could always apply this to public safety in a future year and have the reimbursement work from there.

Councilwoman French.

So as stated before, um highly supportive also the CRC, and just want to commend our third and fourth district councilpersons for collaborating and willing to put in their PIAC money.

Um Councilman Rogers and I just spoke as well, and so we would like to throw in 155 dollars of PIAC money as well.

35,000 if that would suffice.

Um I think we've also talked to our colleagues in the first district.

Um I won't speak to them, but they are I believe willing to put in PIAC as well.

Oh we want to make this a very collaborative process.

We understand the need for the CRC, we understand the need for the the feasibility study um not wanting to use the public safety sales tax, but then also the concerns of not wanting to use the violence prevention as well.

Councilwoman Boo.

I think um if if we drop it down to 300,000 from public safety sales tax, and then fund it through PIAC, then I think that would be acceptable.

I don't think we need to.

Can I clarify one thing?

Yes, ma'am.

So my clarification was um you said the 300,000 was from the current fiscal year of the public safety sales tax.

Correct.

So we would still get to do the study of the new trunks.

Correct.

Then we were on the campaign trail without these big projects.

That was my only thing.

Is I just wanted to get it, I just wanted to get the new uh planned out to the future, so that we wouldn't run out.

We know how big the CRC should be and all of that.

So if there's a current fiscal year unappropriated of public safety sales tax, I think that's where first district, second district, third, and fourth have agreed to make up the other half.

And that would leave the 500,000 for the item that's on second rates today, and then the the rest of it can be funded through PIAC.

Yep.

But um, yes, that all seems good.

I guess folks can talk for themselves, but I don't know.

Does third district PIAC want to do this?

Or not if we don't meet the I don't sixth district will fit in as well.

So is every okay so one second, one second.

So everybody's trying to put in now, although not everybody wants to put in.

So um and the districts all talk to their folks about okay.

No, you wanted to find like the whole project.

Because right now, so it's sounding like there's an amendment working out that is 300,000, which would be almost half of it from public safety sales tax, leaving a remainder of 320,000 dollars.

Right.

And well, that's at least what some are saying.

Go ahead, Councilman Rogers.

That's not my understanding.

Because I think that Councilman Patterson Hasley spoke with the folks that know how much money they needed 620,000 800 that we had talked about.

So 620 divided by four districts is 155 apiece, and we wouldn't need any public safety sales tax.

So four districts want to do quarter 300.

No.

No, I think we want some of it to come from public safety sales tax.

300,000 to come from public safety sales taxes.

As a matter of principle, yes.

Yes.

Okay.

One second.

I see Councilman.

We'll go, Councilman Rayo first.

So my the thing I was gonna point out is that you don't need to vote on transferring PIAC dollars.

You gotta do is write a memo and sign it.

So that doesn't require vote.

But I so the the inclusion of public safety sales tax is a matter of principle, it seems um we could just put this to a vote and see how that lands and see where we are.

Okay, councilwoman Patterson has I think that we're just trying to figure figure out source.

So you know, fiscal year, this fiscal year public safety sales tax is on the table.

Correct.

Um some of us have said violence prevention fund, some of us just said no.

So there's there's that, you know.

Um and then, yeah, so those are the those are the two in question.

Um this year's public safety sales tax unappropriated fund balance are the violence prevention fund are the two options.

And for the 300, it really needs to be 310.

Um, so the 310, and that's that's the decision that and and maybe no one wants to do violence prevention fund, and the one that we need to vote on is the unappropriated fund balance of public safety sales tax.

What a what a clarification.

Yes.

690,000 is the contract 30,000 plus 30,000 for excuse me.

690,000 plus 30,000 for allowances pursuant to say that again.

So staff 720,000 total.

720,000 is the contract that staff and I talked about this in finance committee and had issues with it that staff theoretic staff theoretically is proposing, although none of us have seen that yet.

Granted, this isn't an ordinance introduced by staff, so it'll be fair to them.

Although this would be what director of general services land or someone who could give us some update on the actual cost of the contract.

The question for someone we'll keep talking for a while is what is the cost of provision of the services to be rendered, not necessarily as told to us by the potential contractor, but as told to us by our staff.

Would love to know.

I don't need the answer now, but if we could get it in the next several minutes, that'd be great.

Councilman Willett.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um I appreciate my colleagues from the third and fourth district for trying to come up with a solution, still moving um it forward, but obviously we have to decide how we're gonna split up the public safety sales tax over the 20-year life cycle of it.

And I think it's important that when you see people with good fake efforts come together and say, hey, we can actually fund that um without dipping in the public safety sales tax, which is what we're fighting over right now.

Um delaying that conversation until we see what we're gonna need resources for the permanent solution.

We we talked about uh previous council meetings that we don't know what the final cost of a detention center will be for a permanent solution until we really really know that number.

Um I don't feel comfortable uh taking money from the public safety sales tax um for this, but you have a solution that I know second district, first district, third district, and fourth district are all willing to split that um design um or study, and that's to me that's a common sense solution.

We have uh contingency funds to do that, doesn't necessarily have to be done within the PIAC cycle.

Um so I think that's a common sense solution.

Councilman Bunch, I'm sorry, I don't remember you.

Councilman Bunch.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I uh I want to go back to something that Councilman Patterson Hasley said about how much we need and it uh or what maybe it was what Councilman Rea said about this being principal, and I'd actually flip it and say that what we're doing here is uh acknowledging the fact that there's not enough money in the the fund balance of the public safety sales tax to do the two things that are on our docket today uh combined, and so we know approximately what's left.

So I would say spend that down first, and then we come for PIAC because PIAC is a is a bit of an unusual uh use of funds.

It's not unheard of, and I don't think it's completely out of bounds or inappropriate, but it is I you know we'll be the first people to say, and I think the third district I we all share the challenge of PIAC not being enough to address the things that we all know exist in our community.

So all I'm saying is my preference would be I take this down to the 300,000 because we know that there's 800 total left.

Let's use the 300 first and then figure out what's left over to come out of PIAC, which I think doing the math divided by however many districts have been I I'm not doing the math in my head right now.

70,000.

70,000, it sounds like um that would be my preference, and I you know, I think we've uh fourth district has said we'll you know we'll cover we'll cover what we need to, but um yeah.

Uh so if there's an amendment to be had or it would be going down to the 300, however, I was prepared to vote on the ordinance as it is.

Woman Robinson.

Um thank you.

I just uh uh want to share that I'm gonna be voting no on this amendment uh just from a principal perspective, um, and that is that this $800,000 is minimal as relates to the public safety sales tax, and this is what the voters voted on.

They voted to make sure that we do have alternatives to making sure that we address the root causes.

Councilwoman Boone articulated that very well.

Uh no need to restate that, but this is the appropriate source of funds, and if we expect people to continue to vote for things that we say that we are going to spend the money on, and then we come back and do um a bait and switch and say, oh, we're gonna spend it with other dollars, um, I think that that's unacceptable.

Um so from a per principal's perspective, I'm gonna be voting on the amendment.

And um in addition, I appreciate my colleagues' work on making sure that we have an accounting of the dollars um and that we know where the dollars are going from a public safety sales tax perspective, and um would love to be a co-sponsor to that that's coming before us um later.

The question that I have for the uh chair of the finance committee, the $800,000 when this was passed, um, did we have the funds to pass the $800,000?

Because we held it for a week.

Um, and so when this was passed through committee, it are the funds there.

So, yes, when we passed this out of committee, there were $800,000 in the public safety sales tax, and I'm looking to my my budget people.

Um this week, there was an ordinance that we uh considered that um would have that we will take up next week because we have to not do pass that um would allocate $500,000 in public safety sales tax uh to case well to the police foundation.

Um we had a lot of discussion on that as well, and the decision was made to pass it out due pass after we have some discussion on the public safety sales tax.

So we knew, and I I know Councilman Curls had an issue with this about passing both of those out, knowing that we would have to make a decision on what we do because there would be two ordinances that would really exceed the then current um uh uh balance in this year's public safety sales tax.

Uh but when we passed this out, there was $800,000 in the in the account.

Well, Mr.

Mayor, just so thanks for coming back this quickly.

Um we have been really good about, you know, if funds, one fund runs out, then we can put a placeholder there when the revenue comes back, we can replace it.

So I think that that's the type of public counting that we need to do to address both of these things, but um we should really make sure that the $800,000 um squarely fixed within the public safety sales tax.

That's thank you, Councilman Robinson.

I will say one thing to Councilwoman Robinson's point, because we dealt with this, this is just a little council history I've been around too long for.

We very rarely, Councilman Raya made the point about how you sign a PIAC letter, all of that haven't done it for some years.

We very rarely override a council members' choices on PIAC funding.

And if what I'm hearing, uh you'll remember when you were uh joined by a different third district at large council member, it took us about two years to get to a point where council finally started just passing stuff with which you may not have agreed.

The point I'm making is if both if I'm hearing that both members don't agree from the district on the PIAC funding as a source of funds in this ordinance, then I have qualms with us using the PIAC funds in the ordinance.

Well, sir, uh respectfully this proposal, you know, we're just now talking about this, so my PIEC rep my colleague and I will have those discussions.

Um I won't be discussing those on the floor today, but what I will be saying is I'm not voting yes on the amendment, but we will discuss and together collaboratively.

Exactly.

Understood.

Um so I'd have the maybe the same point.

Councilman Curls.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Yeah, I um we've had extensive discussion in finance, and uh, you know, one of the suggestions that I had during the uh discussion was that we hold this.

Uh and obviously uh I was overruled on that, but uh I would suggest number one I would not be in support of using five PIAC dollars either because that money was designated for specific purposes and reasons.

Um I am a compromising type of person, so I would probably be willing to, but not necessarily agreeable to uh using PIAC dollars.

I would prefer not to my point.

But my other point is too is is that we had talked about the 800,000, the money was there, the 500,000 came up before committee yesterday or the day before, whenever it was.

I would suggest that we pay the 800,000 and then look for another source of for the 500,000.

My suggestion.

Is there further discussion on the I guess is there a motion before us?

There isn't a there isn't a motion, there is not a motion before us.

Discussion.

Uh I would I would concur with Councilman Curls.

Um I think it sets a terrible precedent if um everything related to municipal detention and rehabilitation that detention um has a clear line of funding and then rehabilitation.

We're supposed to scramble and scrape to find funds.

Um I would concur with the with the critiques on utilizing the PIAC.

I think that also sets probably a terrible precedent.

Um I would I would concur with Councilman Curls that let's move this forward today.

I know that uh finance had had outlined a potential solution for the other $500,000 uh allocation um by utilizing um or essentially borrowing against knowing that more funds were coming and you and utilizing that to for for that for that ordinance is what I would recommend.

Okay.

Councilman Patterson has it.

So um again, I my um my point here is that I think that we need to evaluate what we're spending on the public safety sales tax for the first trajectory.

And so um I I think I hear that the council is committed to the CRC, all 13 of us.

So uh my recommendation would be to hold this ordinance until the manager has finished his study in I think 40 days he asked for, and I think we can go forward at that point.

So I think it's fair to see what the long-term trajectory of the fund is uh before we spend it, and that's that's my only thing, is that we promised the voters multiple things stuff.

They expect a CRC, they expect 911 uh facilities and equipment, they expect Central Patrol to be rebuilt.

Um all of those things were a part of of what we talked to the community about.

And um I would and another thing that they wanted to know was you know, were we gonna be forthcoming in the ways that we were spending the public safety sales tax?

I remember fielding that question directly, like you guys are gonna get this money and then you're just gonna start spending it, and you won't have a plan and we won't know what the future looks like.

That I fielded that question personally.

So I think that it's fair um if we can't agree on uh an alternative funding source while the manager does his research, uh my recommendation would be to halt this ordinance until he completes the study, and then we take it back up.

Councilman Patterson has the I would agree with you on the whole, but not quite for the length of uh period for the following reason.

I it seems like a distinction without a difference, but this is public safety sales tax money that comes from the prior vote authorization as distinct from the next one, part of kind of why we're in this moment now.

And with this prior vote, we've spent it on a lot of things, Motorola phone contracts, cars, all types of stuff.

Um, and so I don't see it as inconsistent in use.

That being said, I think that um obviously it's worthwhile for more discussion.

And so while that may not be a four-month delay, um I would certainly entertain maybe a hold of a month so we can get more information from the manager and what we're trying to do.

Is it is that okay with the he nodded?

That he will know more in a month.

You always know more in a month.

I think the I'm sorry, the resolution that we adopted um, I think last week, five 45 days is our recall.

And I we can we have some major numbers to fill, but I we can we can probably get the way there, you know, fairly quickly.

Uh the remaining 20 percent is taking a little bit of time, but we can get we can get back to you in a month for sure.

So I understand we have a request for a hold of one month.

Is that fine, councilwoman?

Yes.

Is there any objection?

I'd fire extended.

Is there a motion for a hold for one month?

A month.

Is there a second?

Second.

It's been moved and seconded.

Is there any further discussion on the motion to hold the item for one month?

Councilwoman Boo.

Uh yes, because I don't think this ordinance has anything to do with the uh work and the resolution that we're going to take up next.

This $800,000 that's currently in the public safety sales tax is for this fiscal year.

Um the the work that I think the city manager is going to do about projecting what we have for the renewal, the upcoming fiscal year to look at what we're um going to spend it on the permanent jail, the modular jail, the funding of the community resource center is for the future.

This is the $800,000 that is currently setting in the the um in the account right now.

Furthermore, this is going to inform us of how and how much money the community resource center, where it's going to go.

This gets us on an even footing of the permanent gel, the modular jail.

This gives us the information that we need for the city manager to make those inform the decisions to bring back to us.

So I think waiting a month or 45 days or however long is just provide giving us less information than we have now.

And so I would strenuously object.

I'm in bunch.

Um I would add that we've we've presented a solution that can work.

Um I think we're still at there is a compromise on the table that has not been formally moved.

I think it makes a lot of sense to go that direction.

I doesn't sound like every district is going to be on board with that.

That's fine.

Um I but what I'm can what I'm interested in is finding a citywide solution, a citywide fund that can cover most of this, and then the council districts can come in if they want to to help fund this.

We know that this is a priority, it's been discussed since to my recollection since 2020 when SFS first came to the city council to present on this matter.

We know that this is a priority, and this is the this is the project, this is the contract to identify all those things that councilwoman Brug just said.

We we you know when we were saying we don't know how much is gonna cost, we don't know where it's gonna go, we don't know what all is going to be in there.

That's what this is for.

If we want to get to that level of programming and concept conceptual design, we have to pay for it, and this is our option to do that.

So we either can pay the full $800,000 out of the out of the public safety sales tax, which I'm prepared to vote on, um, or we could go with the amended version and do that.

I just want to do it, so I also strenuous strenuously object to the whole councilman Ray.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, and I I respectfully and very, very councilwoman Boo, respectfully disagree.

Um, and and in part because I I think a major distinction here is that this is the beginning of a funding process of a very large project that we're all committed to and it puts us on that trajectory, and this kind of brings us back to our conversation from last week on this item about sequencing.

Um that's for return, that's where we'll all go, and I'll discuss why I support the hold.

Um I won't go into too much detail, but you know, it's my opinion that we just took a serious, serious step back in our most recent conversation on the permanent facility, and now we are reevaluating a whole host of things that we had already had figured out.

And now we want to fast track this through while we have taken a step back on the actual permanent solution that we made a promise to voters on.

And so I just I'm not inclined to make those decisions until we get the permanent situation figured out.

I'll just say just for clarity of record, city council has never had the opportunity to vote on anything permanent facility related.

We under, I'm sorry, there were the two things that we've been able to vote on.

I'm not looking to debate you, and I just don't think we need to not counsel necessarily for trying to be methodical and come up with good cost savings in perhaps the same way we're trying to do in connection with the CRC.

I don't think we've taken any material steps back on almost anything that we're doing.

As to this point, uh, and I agree with you, but we can debate it too, because I do enjoy that.

But nonetheless, I think on this point, there are still questions in connection with this, and I think what I would say the there are many rationales for the hold, but one thing that I actually like about this in this situation is that I'll just be honest.

The original ordinance came to us as about a six million dollar appropriation.

That was likely an appropriation that was actually looking to do real work on what it is we're building.

To Councilwoman Patterson Hasley's point that did it did not originate just as a we need generalized ideas.

We were looking to really start a project and to start a project that would actually have some real cost before we've identified what that real cost might be, what that project may be.

Just looking at the caption during the debate.

Do we need a new building?

Can we use one that's that's an existing building?

What is the broader program?

And I actually think this is more of the sort of thing where we need an understanding of what we are asking for, not from architects who would be the recipient of the contract.

So they will give us something that is a building.

Maybe they'll hire other people who say other things about what it is.

We're hiring an architectural firm to design basically a building project for us, not have a discussion with us about maybe they'll say some CRCs have this, some CRCs have that, but this isn't actually about what the CRC itself is about.

So I certainly welcome further discussion on like what that approach would be.

But before we're just getting to design, because what I suspect, and I think the councilwoman's right in bringing a motion, is that they will keep bring us a building, and they'll say, hey, this is a 45, 50, whatever million dollar building.

And we'll all say, should we or should we not?

And if we're making that decision in the abstract without having actually an answer on some of the other things that are real cost drivers, then that's where I start to have some level of concern with what we're doing.

And it is it's a it's a contract relating to that, not necessarily related to the program.

I think we're putting the structure ahead of what it is that we're actually trying to do before we know if we have the money to do it, and I'd like us to have more discussion on that prior to us just starting that process down the line.

Councilwoman Boo.

We've hired consultants to give us ideas about where to put a baseball stadium that are not traditional, you know, consultants on those type of things.

We've hired SFS to give us ideas of you know where to put a jail that frankly have gotten us six years down the road and not given us the information that we need.

We've we hire consultants to give us information that may not may or may not necessarily be can specifically construction of buildings.

The whole purpose of this that we are we plan to instruct them to do is have those discussions.

Uh Councilman Deccan and I have had discussions with the community improvement districts to say that you are going to be involved in this process.

They will do what we have we asked them to do as part of this discussion.

Councilman um what what's your name?

Bunch funds.

Sorry, I'm getting a little worked out.

Councilman Bunch and I have signed on as co-sponsors of this.

This is important.

We've had discussions in committee to change to take out the six million dollars to refine this.

We've held this a week, we've had discussions to make sure that we're getting this right because really what this is is a concept plan.

We're having discussions now about making alter uh alterations.

If we stop this, if we have we can have discussions, I can have discussions with councilman bunch about what I think a community uh resource center is.

But I do I'm not gonna go out there and do the research.

I'm not gonna have I don't have a background in this.

We need to hire someone, and I know we don't like consultants, but we hire them for everything else.

Uh, we need someone to go and present us with the options.

That's what this did.

Five years ago, we hired someone to do the jail.

Um, not saying it turned out very well, but we did.

So we at least need to get someone with some professional experience to provide us with a concept plan.

That's uh to at least get us on the the footing, the whole footing.

Councilman Bunch.

Councilwoman Boo to take most of the words right out of my mouth.

Uh but it it's worth repeating that we hired SFS architecture to do this same type of work, the initial planning uh for the for the detention facility.

And multi-studio is not just an architecture firm, it is also a planning firm that does a lot of great work in regards to urban planning.

Um and so I I don't think it's out of the ordinary for uh for an architecture firm that also does a lot of planning to also this was an RFP, like someone selected this, uh presumably a selection committee, knowing that they were capable of doing this work.

I I don't think that this is just a contract to design a building.

It's not nearly enough money to design a building.

This is the initial programming work that needs to go into ask answering those questions that have been asked.

Where is it gonna go?

How much it's gonna cost?

Uh what kind of programs are gonna be there?

Councilwoman French.

So I have to agree with Councilwoman Boo and Councilman French or Councilman Bunch almost.

No one remembers my name.

Who are you?

And understanding the importance of having this upfront work and this upfront design work and the community engagements, and I work for a consulting firm before, so I actually do like consulting.

And uh multi-studio is like I said, um, an architectural firm, but also a planning.

So I think we do need a plan.

It's just what we are debating is the funds.

Right.

So most of us agree that we do need this.

This is very much appropriate and needed.

It's just the source of funds that this is coming from.

And I feel like as a council as a body, we have worked together to try to come up with an alternate proposal for funding.

And here's how many.

I would like to see us move forward with that.

Um, I think it would be a lot more agreeable.

We could still get this done.

Um, I don't want to see it held and held up any longer.

I would like to see this move forward.

I would like to see uh what the possibility of this is, and then I would also with the ordinance coming up um here shortly, would like to see like the brevity of like the whole fund itself and how we are gonna spend that out for future funds.

Is there further discussion on the motion for a hold for one month?

This is the process to get for the hearing on the clerk recall the role.

Ray?

On the hold for one month.

Got it, thank you.

Um Parkshaw, nay.

Boom.

Doc in no aye.

Will it?

Aye.

Print no.

Aye.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson?

No.

Lucas?

Aye.

Six.

Yes, it says seven nays.

Motion fails.

The ordinances for council.

Is there any further discussion on the ordinance before council?

Councilman Duncan, and this is just the pure ordinance.

Correct.

The committee sub currently are the same.

Yes.

Right.

So I just I just wanted to clear up a couple things.

Um funding this today with the public safety sales tax uh at $800,000 does not prevent additional allocations from the public safety sales tax for future ordinances that we will vote on next week.

Um I want to read just very quickly the project scope of what we're actually getting with this $800,000, which is closer to 790, actually.

Um a project vision and narrative, an engagement summary that includes stakeholder and community engagement, a program, engineering narratives that has civil structural structural and map um design, code analysis, lead analysis, project schedule, a city approval process diagram, site selection and development, concept design with three to four renderings, diagrams and site plan, and a cost estimate is what we are getting today.

That's what we are voting on today.

That's that is the concept plan, that's and that will put us on even footing with the detention facility.

We understand that this plan um will take at least 27 weeks to complete, which by that point in time we'll have had a larger discussion about the public safety sales tax and everything that we're going to take out of it in the future.

So I would encourage you all um to vote yes on this today.

We've talked about this at nauseum.

I think it's time that we move forward with phase one so that we can have a larger conversation about our public safety strategy.

I think the question I would be inclined to ask, and I guess we can it seems long now, but if we do it today, we don't have to do it later.

What's their guidance on site?

So for example, they're bringing us back a site location or recommendations.

With what contours do they decide?

This body voted to uh examine sites city owned and otherwise near the municipal court.

Um that that work is not exhausted yet.

And so for those of us who may say I don't think it needs to be necessarily near municipal court.

We voted on that.

I understand.

I understand.

And I'm just trying to decide how to vote today because I don't want to necessarily have to vote against the ordinance if I wanted to say I'd like you to explore something broader than that.

But basically to my question, the contours of their study are limited in what has previously been passed in resolution.

Sure.

I mean, I don't think so.

I I I think it'd probably be limited to the funding, right?

Similar to the conversations that we had earlier about expanding site selection.

Um would probably require more study for the concept plan.

Because what I'm concerned about is, I mean, I I've heard and same thing with the jail in some ways, and I guess it's good we're having the discussion now.

I've heard discussion of a potentially five or six-story building next to municipal court, which I think would drive up expense dramatically.

I've heard about a kind of targeted set of locations, and so I share everybody's view of the quality of the project.

I just want to make sure I I would just say, I don't know if I would love a project that's six or seven stories.

And so if I can love a project that's six to seven stories.

And I I think that the when we've when we talked, and you sat on the selection committee.

I do heard about trauma-informed design is one level.

So best practices for public safety for to ensure that we don't have blind spots in a facility like this is to ensure that it's on one level.

Understood.

So the question becomes then is that one level still mean that it's close adjacent to municipal court?

Do we expand it further and more broadly to the point to what extent do they have the freedom to provide that to us?

I think one of the challenges that we've had still going on jail previously was because at certain times we thought we were cabined to just a few locations, and then years later, perhaps to Councilwoman Boo's point, right?

We learned we're not cabin to those locations, and then we expand it.

Then in some ways it it starts to change what the discussion is.

How can we make sure that we avoid some of those perhaps missteps in this so that we're not going down a track that seems inevitable that we have to just vote down later or something of that sort.

I mean, I would think that part of their work product would be to evaluate that.

If they thought that you know there's not any locations or there's a better location, and I mean the this is to exec execute a design professional services contract, the city managers here.

I assume he's gonna negotiate it with the help of our attorneys.

That I mean, if there's he's seen what our our difficulty is with respect to the jail, I mean, if there's the purpose, I hope would be to bring us back the best possible option.

And so if you know, if there's another option that's the best possible option, I would hope that the contract would allow for that.

I would hope so too.

I mean, that would be my clear request that if there's a best option within the city, not something that's been decided necessarily in a prior discussion that was not council or our full body, that we have the flexibility for that.

That's mainly what I'm I'm asking for.

Because the prior vote we were just talking about um we need somebody to help us come up with these designs, we need some understanding.

Part of the reason is because sometimes we don't know the questions even to ask or the places that may be best.

So what I don't necessarily want is just for us to be stuck with something without having some ability to I don't know, have a real broad discussion and get choices back that give us that freedom that we just voted on in the prior motion.

Absolutely.

Councilman uh O'Neill.

Yeah, I'm I'm kind of along the same line of thinking.

My my biggest concern is that we have not up to this point had any input into the development of this CRC.

And I don't want one project coming back to us as the recommended version of what we're looking at when only I don't know who's who's setting the matrix of what we're asking for this uh organ the the uh design firm to actually come back to us with.

Um I mean, I think Jonathan has an idea of what he wants.

I think Nathan has an idea of what he wants.

And I don't want one project coming back to us as the recommended version of what we're looking at when only I don't know who's who's setting the matrix of what we're asking for this uh organ the the uh design firm to actually come back to us with um I mean I think Jonathan has an idea of what he wants I think um Nathan has an idea of what he wants everybody has a different idea and I just don't want to be shut out of the the process I guess that I want I don't want this to come back to us in a form of a 80 million dollar pro um uh CRC that should be here and that's what the consultant comes back and tells us I I would like to your point have some flexibility as we go forward because if we're gonna spend this money on it on a design it needs to be a design that we can all support or at least have options in the design so that we can we can have choices just like we're talking about with the Jul.

Councilman thank you councilman O'Neill Councilman Duncan no thank you councilman O'Neill I I'm in complete agreement uh with your with your statement um we are all stakeholders and so when we talk about stakeholder engagement within the contract all of us will be included in that um the the municipal rehabilitation and detention facility um committee did initial work that got us to this point to get us to an RFP um which is now we're having that stakeholder engagement to say what are the most vital elements of this because right now up until this point it's been councilman rogers and I working with the municipal court department of corrections um university health and and visiting other municipalities to see how they've done it well um which has informed us so far um but I'm not an expert on rehabilitation and and so I I think I have I you're right I I have an idea of I think what what could help us get get us there um but we need that stakeholder engagement the professionals to conduct that to inform what this concept plan will be and that's that's what we're voting on today all right there's a further discussion on the ordinance hearing on clerk will call the role on the ordinance right now no curls aye artshaw aye boom aye aye o'Neal aye will it no aye Rogers no Hasley no Robinson aye eight eyes five nays the ordinance passes next 250951 directing city manager to prepare and present to the council a projection of project cost over the lifetime of the public safety sales tax finance committee recommends do pass councilwoman boo okay uh mr mayor this ordinance is brought to us by uh our colleague councilwoman um patterns hasley and we talked a little bit about this um earlier um with the last ordinance this would direct the city manager to prepare and present to council a projection of the project costs over the lifetime of the public safety sales tax finance governance public safety reviewed him recommended advance and do pass thank you councilwoman uh boo is there any further discussion hearing none the clerk will call the role aye curls aye parkshaw aye aye aye will it all right I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor and I hold on hold on one second um on this just wait till we're done voting and then we'll come back to Rogers Patterson Hasley Robinson I Lucas I 13 eyes ordinance passes you would like to be added as co-sponsor of this resolution so we'll I thank you we'll add uh French and Robinson thank you 250942 direct and city manager evaluate crater regulations in other Missouri municipalities and make recommendations within 30 days for any necessary code amendments to regulate the cratum in the city neighborhood committee register pass Mayor Pur Tim thank you all mayor kratom is not regulated by controlled substances act it can cause uh psychoactive effects in those who consume it many craton products are marketed without regard for prospective consumers age and the city finds it necessary to explore regulations related to the sale and use of kratom products to protect the general health safety and welfare of Kansas Citians and the uh neighborhood development committee reviewed and agreed and and recommended to pass.

Thank you councilwoman uh mayor pro tem councilman downkin thank you mr mayor uh I want to thank councilmember Willett for his leadership on this I'd like to be added as a co-sponsor um currently having conversations um and was working on legislation which I think your office is working on too um looking at uh marijuana alternatives which aren't marijuana alternatives at all and have no age restrictions and so it's the wild wild west out here especially with we got great gaming machines we got we got legal cocaine and legal heroin and legal weed and we we gotta get we got to give this under control.

We got we got legal cocaine and legal heroin and legal weed and we gotta get we got to give this under control.

Amen.

Very real challenge.

Thank you, Councilman Willett, for um your work and and councilman Duncan and others who are working on it because we're seeing incredible impact in our community.

What he's talking about with legal cocaine and legal all this other stuff is that by changing the compound ever so slightly, you can often have this sold in some ways in venues within the city gas stations and others, and so making sure we come up with ways to make sure it's not harming our community is important.

Is there any further there's no further discussion?

The clerk called the roll Raya Blanchles, aye Parkshaw, aye aye.

Aye O'Neill, aye, Willet, aye French, aye Rogers, aye Hansley, aye Robinson, aye, Lucas, aye, thirteen ayes.

The resolution is adopted.

Mayor Pro Tim.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor.

I move that the charter requirement for reading of ordinances on three separate days be waived for the ordinances on today's document listed as committee advances and that these ordinances are advanced for final reading and consideration at this time.

Second.

We're moved to second.

Is there any further discussion?

Hearing none, the clerk will call the roll.

Rayum.

Aye.

Burnt.

Aye.

Colonels.

Aye.

Parkshaw.

Aye.

Aye.

Duncan?

Aye.

O'Neill.

Will it?

French?

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Chair.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Lucas.

Aye.

Twelve eyes.

Motion passes.

Well, the clerk received the items on the advanced consent document.

Yes, sir.

250939.

Approving plat of parade part first bus in addition to Jackson County, Missouri on approximately 12 acres, joining located northeast corner of Woodland Avenue, East 18th Street, creating four lots, one track for the purpose of multi-unit residential development.

Except a various easements, authorized director of city plan development and director of water service to execute and substitute agreements.

Directing the city clerk to facilitate the recordation of the ordinance and the test documents.

250940.

Approval in the platter of Creek Side, second plat in addition to Clay County, Missouri, and approximately nine acres joining located at the northwest corner of Northeast 104th Street and North Hawthorne Avenue within the existing creek side development.

Creating two lots, uh 28 lots and two tracks for the purpose of residential development, separate various easements, establishing grays on public ways, authorized director of city plan development and director of water services to execute and substitute agreements, directing city clerk to facilitate the recordation of the ordinance and his health documents.

250945.

Approval and authorized the discharge of a special tax bill and waiver of the resulting liens on real property, commonly known as 3619 Robert Street.

Neighborhood committee from Mr.

Pass.

The clerk will call the roll.

Raya.

Aye Flarch.

Aye.

Aye.

Barkshaw.

Aye.

Boo.

Aye.

Duncan.

Aye.

O'Neill.

Willett.

Aye.

French.

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

Twelve eyes.

Ordinance pass.

Ordinance says pass.

Yes, sir.

250928.

Applying the special skills waiver of the residency requirement of the city code of section two 721.1 for Rafael Oripisa, who is to be selected as a member of the construction workforce board.

Finance committee recommended repairs.

Oh, that can do it if you want to go ahead.

It's your committee.

Oh, do you want to do it?

I was just going to say just so folks know there.

So a res the residency requirement actually applies to boards and commissions as well.

Under Missouri law, you have to be a Missourian.

Under Kansas City ordinances, by and large, you have to be a Kansas City and with certain exceptions.

The broadest exception is for areas of special skill or technical expertise.

The individual nominated here is uh resident of Missouri and non-Kansas City and so the uh ordinance fairly simply just looks to apply that special skills waiver of the residency requirement as to this item.

Finance reviewed and recommended advanced due pass.

Is there any further discussion?

And by the way, because we have a few committees that need some appointments and occasionally have out-of-towners and such, you may see more of these as time goes on.

Okay.

Councilman Duncan.

I just want to stand and say that uh this makes complete sense.

The fact that Ralph is a president of the building trades.

Yep.

That affects the entire region.

So thank you for this.

There's no further discussion.

The clerk called the roll.

Raya.

Aye.

Funch.

Aye.

Pearls.

Aye.

Parkshaw.

Aye.

Boo.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

O'Neill.

Aye.

Willet.

Aye.

French.

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson?

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

13 ayes.

Ordinance passes.

Ordinance passes.

250950.

Committee committee substitute amending committee substitute for ordinance number 230582 by repealing replacement section one B and C for the purpose of aligning with the negotiated terms with the Convention and Visitors Bureau, Kansas City Duran Business as visit Kansas City Finance Committee to pass.

Councilwoman Boo.

Honorable Mayor, I thought you were going to explain this one too.

But the short version of this is when the original ordinance approving the contract with the with the visit KC was approved by the council.

There were some deletions of certain sections in the ordinance that were inconsistent with the contract that was signed that resulted in the underpayment to visit KC.

But on the other hand, visit KC was not paying for certain payments that were required to uh pay with respect to the Lowe's hotel.

In the end, it resulted in a net payment due to Kansas City, but this ordinance would also clean up the omission of the deleted items items in the contract.

So in some it's good news for the city, but it will clean up um the omissions.

And um, I think Tammy's not jumping up, so I must explain that right.

Finance governance public safety reviewed and recommended advance and due pass.

Thank you, Councilman Boo.

Is there any further discussion?

Harry, now the clerk will call the roll.

Ray?

Aye.

Bunch.

All right.

Curls.

Aye.

Parkshaw.

Aye.

Aye.

Duncan.

Aye.

O'Neill.

Aye.

Will it?

Franch?

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Harrison Hanson.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

Twelve eyes, one abstention.

Ordinance passes.

250937.

Accept an improvement of grant award in name out of 2 million 2018 with the U.S.

Department of Housing and Urban Development for the Housing Opportunities for Person with AIDS and recognizing this ordinance is having an accelerated technical date.

Neighbor pass.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor.

This is our annual Hope Award.

It provides housing services for people living with HIV.

Uh services and the neighborhood planning divid development committee recommended pass.

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim.

Any further discussion?

Hearing now, the clerk will call the roll.

Raya.

Aye.

Bunch.

Aye.

Pearls.

Aye.

Parkshaw.

Aye.

Boo.

Aye.

Duncan.

Aye.

O'Neill.

Aye.

Willet.

Aye.

French.

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Catherine Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson?

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

13 ayes.

Ordinance pass.

250943.

There's only about one point four 1.8 acres running located at 150 feet north of the intersection of North Platte Purchase Drive and Northwest 78th Street from District R-80 to District R 7.5 to allow for creation of an additional residential lot.

Neighborhoods do have to pass.

Mayor Pro Tim.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor.

This ordinance uh it is a rezone for approximately 1.8 acres.

The subject site is currently a single unplatted lot, and the request does not require an accompanying development plan, special use or area plan amendment.

However, there is a minor subdivision type two lot split application currently on hold until this proposed rezoning is complete.

The neighborhood planning development committee review recommended due pass.

Thank you, Councilwoman Mayor Pro Tim.

Is there any further discussion?

Harry None, the clerk will call the roll.

Raya.

Aye.

Bunch.

Aye.

Pearls.

Aye.

Barkshaw.

Aye.

Boo.

Aye.

Duncan?

Aye.

O'Neill.

Aye.

Will it?

Aye.

French.

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

13 eyes.

Ordinance passes.

250944.

There's only about one acre, generally located at the northeast corner of Broadway Boulevard and West 40th Street from District UR to District B 3-2 to allow for an entertainment venue.

Neighborhood committee to pass.

Mayor Pro Tim.

Thank you, Honorable Mayor.

This area, uh this applicant is requesting to rezone approximately a little less than one acre from district UR, urban redevelopment to a community business zoning.

And um to be uh reviewed by the city staff, city, the CPC and Board of Zoning Adjustment.

The um this is the one, this is the one that actually has the waiver on parking, right?

So I'm sorry, I'm lost in my notes.

We did a special waiver on uh parking, and so I'll I'll finish, but I want councilman uh bunch to add his extra comments.

The neighborhood planning development committee reviewed and recommended due pass.

Uh but if you'll just go ahead and add the details on the parking, please.

Uh that would be uh um, I believe through a waiver uh variance that would still have to be approved by BCA.

So they're there, um but this this one was almost uh I would say a casualty of our excessive uh minimum parking requirements that are under review right now uh by the planning department.

But this one uh the new zoning will allow them to operate as this um small uh entertainment venue, but then they'll have to come back to BCA for a parking variance is all and um and so uh for I I can't speak for both of us.

I haven't actually talked to Council Ray about this, but this is the fourth district, and I I certainly support it.

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim.

Yeah, I found it in my notes.

I uh it does propose a variance of 134 parking spaces.

I'm just wanted to make sure the record uh reflected that.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

If there's no further discussion, the clerk will call the rolls.

Aye Bunch, aye, girls, aye, Bark Shaw, aye, blue, aye, aye, O'Neill, aye, Willet, aye, French, aye, Rogers, Patterson Hansley, aye.

Robinson, aye.

Lucas, aye 13 ayes.

Ordinance passes.

Girl 911.

Directing city manager issue a traffic control permit under certain conditions and subject to the approval of the public works by the state for the St.

Paul Episcopal School for closure of Walnut Street between 40th Street and 41st Street during school hours.

Transportation committee to pass.

Um Robinson.

Um, thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

This ordinance allows for the closure of Walnut Street between East 40th Street and East 41st Street during the school hours.

It will improve safety for students, faculty, staff, and the community of the St.

Paul's Episcopal Day School and additional traffic call me measures will improve safety for all residents during and after hours in the weekend.

The project will be fully funded and maintained by the St.

Paul Episcopal Day School.

The closure of the walnut um street is for the hours of 9 a.m.

to 3 p.m.

Monday through Friday.

Uh review of the permit for possible renewal at the end of the summer.

School classes will happen, and they will have to maintain bicycle access on the street and pedestrian access on the sidewalk.

Um, we do uh want to acknowledge our colleague um councilman uh Rea in um his uh fourth district mate, uh Councilman Bunch displaying uh incredible leadership um to ensure that the community and the school works collaboratively for this resolve.

The transportation infrastructure operations committee recommended events and due pass.

Thank you, Mayor.

Uh Councilwoman Robinson.

Is there any further discussion?

Hearing now, the clerk will call the road.

Ray.

Aye Bunch, Girls, aye, Mark Shaw.

Aye.

Boo.

Aye.

Duncan?

Right.

Neil.

Aye.

Aye.

French.

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Lucas.

Aye.

13 ayes.

Ordinance passes.

250919.

Authorized amendment number one in the amount of 69,914 to a design professional service agreement with Kimley Horn and Associates for the Northeast 52nd Street Improvements, Maple Park Middle School and Elder Nursery School Sidewalk Project.

Total contract amount not to exceed $749,914.

Recognizes Words as having a effective date.

Transportation is due pass.

Councilman Robinson.

Mr.

Mayor, we did have a common theme in our committee this week, and it was safety for school children.

And this ordinance is along that vein.

It is included in the budget, and we'll make those improvements for the children at Maple Park Middle and Elementary School and improve their sidewalks.

And so Transportation Infrastructure and Operations Committee recommended events and due pass.

Thank you, Councilman Robinson.

Is there any further discussion?

Hearing none of the clerk will call the roll.

Raya.

Bunch.

Aye.

Curls.

Aye.

Park Shaw.

Aye.

Who?

Aye.

Donc?

Aye.

O'Neal.

Aye.

Will it?

Aye.

Aye.

Rogers.

All right.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

13 ayes.

250920.

Estimated appropriating revenue and amount of 3 million 260,217 dollars and a capital improvements grant fund incorporating 4 million 988,791 dollars on an appropriate fund balance of the capital improvements fund to the Northeast Vivian Road Street Scrape Improvement Project.

Authorizing director of public works to enter into a mitigation and air quality agreement cost share second supplementary agreement with the Missouri Highway and Transportation Committee designate requisition authority recognizes ordinance as having so effective date.

This um is a long time coming, and we are all popping champagne bottles because we're approving Northeast Vivian Road of the streetscape improvements along that corridor.

Um the revenue is intended to come from the Clay County Road and Bridge tax receipts.

Um the revenue is in the amount of three point two six million dollars, um, and the total sum is over 4.9 million.

Uh we do also want to recognize the superior leadership from our Northland colleagues to work working with Clay County to um secure these additional funds.

The Transportation Infrastructure Operations Committee recommend advance and do pass as a committee substitute.

Thank you, Councilwoman Robinson.

Any further discussion?

Hearing none, the clerk will call the roll.

Raya.

Aye.

Aye.

Parkshaw.

Aye.

Boo.

Aye.

Aye.

O'Neill.

Aye.

Willet?

Aye.

French.

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Patterson Hansley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

13 ayes.

Ordinance passed.

250927.

Amending chapter 70, Article 12, Code of Ordinance entitled Traffic Control Signals Signals Devices by amending Division 954 entitled Traffic Control Legend, including section 70-954 A3C of the Code of Ordnance of Kansas City, Missouri related to right terms on residents to prohibit right terms in school zone when school zone speed limits are in effect.

Establish the definition definition for school zones, school zone hours, and high injury network areas.

Directing the installation of appropriate signage and effective intersections in accordance with the prioritize implementation schedule.

Authorizing Director of Public Works to grant waivers under specific conditions.

Appropriate the funds signage implementation, directing city manager, incorporate the school zone guidelines and standards in city traffic engineering and operation manual and establish an effective date.

Transportation readings pass.

Thank you.

Councilwoman Robinson.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

As stated, this eliminates the right turns on red during arrival and dismissal times.

It will reduce potential conflict points between vehicles and student pedestrians, particularly in intersections adjacent to schools.

This ordinance is consistent with the city's commitment to Vision Zero principles and the goal of eliminating traffic related deaths and serious injuries injuries on Kansas City streets.

School zone designation can be requested by any school through the Department of Public Works.

This prohibition shall only take effect at an intersection once appropriate signage has been installed.

And again, we want to thank the incredible leadership of our mayor for bringing this forward in the outstanding advocacy during our committee from Council McCurl's regarding ensuring that schools are safer.

Mr.

Mayor, there is a amendment from the floor.

Yep.

And so I would like to move that the committee substitute for ordinance number two five zero nine two seven be amended so that it reads as in the documented title committee substitute for ordinance number two five zero nine two seven as amended, which has also been distributed to all council members.

Second then moved and seconded.

Is there any further discussion on the motion?

Council um hearing council.

I don't know if we're then motion, but in committee it expressed to be a co-sponsor and is not reflected.

So make sure.

Please add councilwoman French as a co-sponsor on the item.

All right.

Any further discussion on the motion?

Hearing none, call the roll.

Raya.

Aye.

Bunch.

Aye.

Earls.

Aye.

Shaw.

Aye.

Aye.

Duncan?

Aye.

O'Neal.

Aye.

Will it?

Aye.

French?

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Aye.

Um sorry, Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

Thirteen ayes.

Motion passes the ordinances amended is before council.

Any further discussion?

Um, Mr.

Mayor, this amendment just provides funding for public engagement to notify the public about the changes.

So thank you.

Councilman Robinson, thank you to the committee for how y'all dealt with this important project.

And our hope is that we're able to keep our kids safe, which is the most important thing we do.

If there's no further discussion, the clerk will call the roll.

I'm sorry.

Sorry.

Councilman Willett, is your hand up?

Yes, sir.

Oh, sorry, go ahead, sir.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

I'd like to be out as a co-sponsor.

Uh thank you for your leadership on this.

I know that um last year we just updated to allow middle schools and high schools to be part of school zones as well, um, not just elementary schools as more students are walking from um varied radiuses around schools.

Thank you, Councilman Willard.

There's no further discussion.

The clerk will call the roll.

Raya.

Aye.

Bunch.

Aye.

Burrells.

Aye.

Parkshaw.

Aye.

Aye.

Donc?

Aye.

O'Neill.

Aye.

Will it?

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Patterson Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Aye.

Ordinance passes.

Next item.

Honorable mayor.

Oh, sorry, yes.

Mayor.

I move that the charter department for reading of ordinances on three separate days be weighed for ordinances on today's document listed as second readings, and if these items will be placed on the document next week for final reading.

Second.

It's been moved and second.

Is there any further discussion?

Hearing none, the clerk will call the roll.

Aye.

Bunch.

Aye.

Pearls.

Aye.

Farkshaw.

Aye.

Who?

Aye.

Aye.

O'Neill.

Aye.

Will it?

Aye.

Ranch.

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Patrick Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

Thirteen ayes.

Uh motion passes.

Mayor pro tem.

Honorable mayor.

I move that the charter requirement for reading of ordinances on three separate days be waited for the ordinances on today's document list as first readings and that these ordinance be introduced as listed to the committee so designated.

Hardest motion of the day.

Is there any further discussion on the motion?

Terry Novicler called the roll.

Raya.

Aye.

Pearls.

Aye.

I think aye.

Duncan.

O'Neal.

Aye.

Will it?

Aye.

Ranch?

Aye.

Rogers.

Aye.

Hasley.

Aye.

Robinson.

Aye.

Lucas.

Aye.

13 ayes.

Ordinance passes.

Is there any oh there's a lot of further businesses coming for council?

Mayor Pro Tim.

I request the clerk to receive docket and read an ordinance prepared too late on today's to be on today's docket.

There's three ways.

The clerk will receive the ordinance, assign a number and read the title.

That ordinance number is going to be 250968.

Amending committee substitute for ordinance number two five zero eight five five bar appealing section one in place in a new section one to direct the city manager to engage child care aware of Missouri Kids Win Missouri Tutrice for the purpose of establishing administering one year tri-chair child care pilot program.

Councilman Ray.

Thank you, Mr.

Mayor.

Um, I will there are three of these that are related uh in regards to the West Bottoms.

Yep, and then one that is not I will start with the one that is not related, employering number six one eight eight.

Receive docket and read an ordinance prepare too late to be on today's docket.

Uh the clerk, pardon me.

The clerk will receive the ordinance to sign a number and read the title.

Approving and development plan on about 3.14 acres joining located at the northwest corner of East Front Street and North Century Avenue from District M3-5 to allow for approve approval of a development plan for detention and correctional facility.

Refer to the neighborhood planning and development committee.

Councilman Ray.

Thank you, Mr.

Ray.

I request the clerk receive docket and read an ordinance prepare too late to be on today's docket.

The clerk will receive the ordinary.

Can I make this for all three, or do I need to do the script for each one?

Probably yes.

Let's just go with each one.

Okay.

The clerk will receive the ordinance, assign a number and read the title.

Okay.

The last four numbers are 6185.

The ordinance number is 250970.

Approval the second amendment to the West Bottoms Tax Increment Financing Plan authorizing the city managers to enter into a first amendment to the redevelopment agreement between the city of Kansas City and the TIFF Commission.

Refer to the finance governance and public safety committee.

I request that the clerk receive document read orders prepare too late to be on today's document.

The clerk will receive the ordinance to sign a number and read the title.

That number is going to be 250971.

Estimated revenue and amount of six million nine hundred forty five thousand seven hundred fifty dollars in the special obligation bond series 2026 B project fund number 3457.

Appropriating the same and fund number 3457, authorizing construction contract with infrastructure solutions with a total value of 5 million 577, 711 for West Bottoms Phase 1 Tranch 2 project.

There's a requisition authorities declaring the intent of cities to reimburse the cell phone bond proceeds for certain expenditures.

Refer to the finance governance and public safety committee.

Councilman Raya.

Mr.

Mayor, I request that the clerk receive document and read an ordinance prepared too late to be on today's docket.

The clerk will receive the ordinance to sign a number and read the title.

That number is going to be 250972.

Authorizing city manager execute a public access easement with the West Bottoms Pro Master LLC and West Bottoms Pro Code Master LO Master 2 LLC for an area generally located at the northwest corner of West 11th Street and Santa Fe Street.

Refer to the neighborhood planning and development committee.

The clerk will receive the ordinance, assign a number and read the title.

That number is going to be 250973.

Directing city manager develop a proposal for the establishment and support of a regional relief fund to be used in connection with the Mid America Regional Council for the purpose of supporting services that have been negatively impacted by the federal administration and report back to the council within 30 days.

The clerk receive the resolution, assign a number and read the title.

The number is going to be 250974.

Direct and city manager aligned agencies that provide economic developments and is involved in the development and regulation of data centers and ensure uniform adherence to the evolving best standards and practices.

Refer to the special committee for legal review.

Is there any further business to come before council?

Hearing none, we'll stand adjourned.