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Kauaʻi County Council Committee Meeting on Emergency Sheltering – February 5, 2025

County Council & CommitteesWednesday, February 5, 2025
BodyKauai County, Hawaii
SessionCounty Council & Committees
DateWednesday, February 5, 2025
StatusFILED
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All right, ready?

0:03

Morning, everyone.

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Welcome to the committee meetings of February 5th.

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Today we will start up with our public works committee, Mr.

0:10

Caralho.

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The cloud order, the public works committee.

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So the directly reflect on members of president.

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We have the first item.

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One and only item.

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Minutes of the January 22nd, 2025 Public Works and Veterans Services Committee meeting.

0:29

Second.

0:31

Any discussion, if not should carry.

0:36

After the book.

0:39

All those in favor.

0:40

I thought we did that already.

0:41

I pollsly carried.

0:45

And that completes our discussion for today.

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And I would like to call the order of the public safety and human services committee.

0:52

Let the record reflect that all members are present.

0:55

Clerk, could you please read the agenda item?

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PSHS 2025-01 communication from Council Member Cowden requesting the presence of emergency management administrator Renese Bane, Regional Disaster Officer with American Red Cross Pacific Islands Region to provide a briefing regarding emergency sheltering abilities and capacities on Hawaii, including the American Red Cross's roles and responsibilities as well as related services the organization provides in support of the Kauai Emergency Management Agency's mission.

1:25

Okay.

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Okay.

1:29

Thank you.

1:31

Can we have Kima come up?

1:33

And then I want to thank Renee Spain for being on Zoom, is that correct?

1:40

Or on Teams?

1:43

Is she there?

1:45

Could you guys can come up?

1:48

Both of you.

1:55

Okay.

1:59

All right.

2:01

Doesn't look like Renice.

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I'll have whoever is here introduce himself.

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I'm the regional executive or the CEO for the American Red Cross for this for the Pacific Islands region.

2:13

Renee's connecting right now.

2:14

I think she's having some issues.

2:16

Renee, are you on?

2:24

I missed your name because the sound was coming up.

2:27

What is your name, sir?

2:28

My name is Tony Briggs.

2:30

Tony.

2:33

Okay, thank you, Tony.

2:36

Um I'm kind of speaking slowly for a moment here, just wanting, you know, to have her on there.

2:42

I really appreciate everybody being here.

2:45

The reason why I I call this uh agenda item is because it's been a number of months now.

2:53

I think almost since late last summer since we have had a Red Cross person here, and I want to just be really sh, you know.

3:02

I honestly I want a new Red Cross person on the island, and um just trying to understand where we're at and so how we can help us get to even a more solid place.

3:13

So I believe we're gonna start with KEMA, Kauai Emergency Management Agency.

3:17

So thank you.

3:18

Um I will be happy, Elton, to let you do your presentation.

3:23

All right, uh El Tinucio Emergency Management Administrator, uh assisted by good morning, uh Solomon and all XO with the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency.

3:33

So hopefully I use this thing correctly because I have a clickable link.

3:41

But anyway, um, quick presentation uh about the requested emergency shelters briefing.

3:47

So let's start with history.

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Uh I want to go back to you know, way before our time with KEMA to our Cold War era, civil defense days.

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Um we did have a shelter uh network, uh sites identified, and you can see on that historic map up there, caves and tunnels, including the dry cave, uh, although in hyena, all of these stronger structures, um areas that you know very few people know where they are anymore if they still exist.

4:34

The next general period of time that I can discuss where state civil defense and uh Kawaii Civil Defense Agency uh were the respective names of Haima and KEMA at the time.

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And uh state civil defense used to have more of a leading role uh in the shelter side, and they work with KEMA and we uh well KCDA and uh we would uh produce these uh infamous yellow books with all kinds of different uh technical data and identified shelter locations throughout the island.

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However, and admittedly, uh back in that time, they would look at what seemed to be hardened structures, those built more robustly, if they could replace glass with uh louvers that wouldn't shatter, if uh, you know, windscreen kind of things, if they could put you know, adequate number of people, um, you know, so it wasn't an engineering type assessment, and that lasted for quite a while.

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Public Safety██████████10%
Public Engagement████████8%
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Youth Programs1%
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Summary of Proceedings

Kauaʻi County Council Committee Meeting on Emergency Sheltering – February 5, 2025

The Kauaʻi County Council held committee meetings on February 5, 2025, starting at 8:30 AM in the Council Chambers. The primary focus was a briefing on emergency sheltering abilities and capacities on Kauaʻi, presented by the Kauaʻi Emergency Management Agency (KEMA) and the American Red Cross – Pacific Islands Region. The briefing covered shelter history, current refuge areas, partnerships, and staffing challenges.

Consent Calendar

  • Public Works & Veterans Services Committee: Approved minutes of the January 22, 2025 meeting.
  • Finance & Economic Development Committee: Approved minutes of the January 22, 2025 meeting.
  • Committee of the Whole: Approved minutes of the January 22, 2025 meeting.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Tommy Passerell (Līhuʻe resident): Criticized FEMA's response to past disasters, questioned overall preparedness for a major hurricane or tsunami, and urged the council to coordinate a comprehensive plan. He also noted the one-year anniversary of Toby Keats’ passing and acknowledged his support for troops.
  • Additional speaker (name not given): Questioned who is responsible for planning post-disaster bridge replacements (e.g., Acrow bridges) and emphasized the need for pre-event planning. He praised the Red Cross and KEMA but stressed that FEMA’s response is inadequate.

Discussion Items

PSHS 2025-01 – Briefing on Emergency Sheltering

  • Elton Ushio (KEMA Administrator) presented a history of sheltering on Kauaʻi, from Cold War-era civil defense to the current system. He explained the shift from “shelters” to “hurricane refuge areas” (Best Available Refuge Area standard) and noted that 16,400 shelter slots currently exist, with approximately 2,000 more to be added after renovations at the Kauaʻi War Memorial Convention Hall and Kīlauea Gymnasium are completed. During Hurricane Iniki (1992), 8,000 people used shelters out of a population of 53,000; today’s population is about 73,000. He highlighted the 2023–2024 Innovative Readiness Training (IRT) program with the Department of Defense, which assessed many facilities. He also noted that no current shelters are rated for nuclear fallout.
  • Tony Briggs (Regional CEO, American Red Cross – Pacific Islands Region) and Renese Bayne (Regional Disaster Officer) presented the Red Cross’s role in sheltering, mass care, volunteer training, and partnership with KEMA. They described the disaster cycle services, volunteer engagement, and the challenge of geographic distance across the Pacific. Bayne stated that on Kauaʻi there are 46 trained disaster volunteers and another 40 non-disaster volunteers. The Red Cross is currently without a full-time community disaster program manager on Kauaʻi (vacant since September/November 2024). Bayne and Briggs acknowledged that low pay is a barrier to hiring local qualified candidates.
  • Councilmember Cowden (requestor of the briefing) expressed concern about the lack of a dedicated Red Cross staff member on Kauaʻi, the high turnover, and the team’s newness. She cited the Maui Wildfire After-Action Report (observation 8) on sheltering challenges and asked how the council could help. She noted that the position’s pay is insufficient for the cost of living and suggested recruiting retired first responders.
  • Councilmember Raposo asked about the timeline for bringing the Convention Hall and Kīlauea Gym back online as usable shelters. Ushio deferred to the Department of Parks and Recreation for specifics but noted that currently those facilities are not usable.
  • Councilmember Kuali asked about the difference between “shelters” and “refuge areas” and how the public will be notified during an emergency. Ushio explained that the BARA standard is a minimum engineering assessment and that KEMA will announce open shelters via press releases, website, and radio.
  • Councilmember Kanashiro inquired about the lack of shelters on the North Shore (only Kīlauea Elementary and Kīlauea Gym, the latter under renovation). Ushio confirmed that there are no other shelters farther north and that many previous facilities are in tsunami evacuation zones.
  • Councilmember Holland asked about nuclear fallout protection, sheltering agreements with the Department of Education, and the role of county/state employees in staffing. Ushio stated that no current facilities are rated for fallout, and that staffing remains a partnership with DOE, Parks and Rec, and Red Cross.
  • Councilmember Cavaliero asked about the per capita shelter capacity compared to other counties. Ushio said Kauaʻi fares better than Honolulu but is second to Hawaiʻi County.

Key Outcomes

  • The committee voted to receive the communication (PSHS 2025-01) and the briefings from KEMA and the Red Cross. The motion carried unanimously.
  • No formal directives were issued, but councilmembers expressed a desire to support recruitment of a local Red Cross disaster program manager, potentially by advocating for a cost-of-living adjustment from Red Cross national leadership.
  • Councilmember Cowden offered to write a letter to Red Cross headquarters to request higher pay for the Kauaʻi position.
  • The council noted the upcoming hazard mitigation plan update as an opportunity to document shelter needs and prioritize projects.
  • The meeting adjourned after the Committee of the Whole minutes were approved.

Meeting Transcript

All right, ready? Morning, everyone. Welcome to the committee meetings of February 5th. Today we will start up with our public works committee, Mr. Caralho. The cloud order, the public works committee. So the directly reflect on members of president. We have the first item. One and only item. Minutes of the January 22nd, 2025 Public Works and Veterans Services Committee meeting. Second. Any discussion, if not should carry. After the book. All those in favor. I thought we did that already. I pollsly carried. And that completes our discussion for today. And I would like to call the order of the public safety and human services committee. Let the record reflect that all members are present. Clerk, could you please read the agenda item? PSHS 2025-01 communication from Council Member Cowden requesting the presence of emergency management administrator Renese Bane, Regional Disaster Officer with American Red Cross Pacific Islands Region to provide a briefing regarding emergency sheltering abilities and capacities on Hawaii, including the American Red Cross's roles and responsibilities as well as related services the organization provides in support of the Kauai Emergency Management Agency's mission. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Can we have Kima come up? And then I want to thank Renee Spain for being on Zoom, is that correct? Or on Teams? Is she there? Could you guys can come up? Both of you. Okay. All right. Doesn't look like Renice. I'll have whoever is here introduce himself. I'm the regional executive or the CEO for the American Red Cross for this for the Pacific Islands region. Renee's connecting right now. I think she's having some issues. Renee, are you on? I missed your name because the sound was coming up. What is your name, sir? My name is Tony Briggs. Tony. Okay, thank you, Tony. Um I'm kind of speaking slowly for a moment here, just wanting, you know, to have her on there. I really appreciate everybody being here. The reason why I I call this uh agenda item is because it's been a number of months now. I think almost since late last summer since we have had a Red Cross person here, and I want to just be really sh, you know. I honestly I want a new Red Cross person on the island, and um just trying to understand where we're at and so how we can help us get to even a more solid place. So I believe we're gonna start with KEMA, Kauai Emergency Management Agency. So thank you.

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