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Kaua‘i County Council Committee Meeting Summary – July 9, 2025

County Council & CommitteesWednesday, July 9, 2025
BodyKauai County, Hawaii
SessionCounty Council & Committees
DateWednesday, July 9, 2025
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0:36

Okay, good morning.

0:37

I'd like to call our public works and veteran services committee to order we do have quorum this morning.

0:44

Um so at this time, can we clerk?

0:48

Can you please read uh one item on the agenda?

0:52

Bill number 2960, a bill for an ordinance amending section 25-11.2, Kauai County Code in 1987 as amended relating to sewers.

1:04

Move to approve.

1:05

Second.

1:07

Moves approved by council clean second by the public testimony.

1:16

Oh, you not on.

1:18

Second.

1:19

Sorry, my um second.

1:21

Second.

1:22

So approved, right?

1:24

Seconded by council member Shiro.

1:27

Any discussion?

1:30

Anyone have anything on the wanna come up and say a few words?

1:34

I have a question.

1:34

Question, go ahead.

1:35

This is the one regarding the what you bring on the fee.

1:40

Yes.

1:41

Affordable housing.

1:42

We have a question by council member Kanashiro.

1:45

Wait, what?

1:46

Wait.

1:48

We're not at public testimony yet.

1:51

Oh yeah.

1:54

Can you hold off a little while?

1:56

And then we'll call Troy too to the stand right now because Councilmember Conishure has a fast question, then we can open up to public.

2:02

Oh no, council members.

2:11

Um Troy Tunigal County Engineer for the right.

2:14

In the past, I feel like we had a proposal similar to this, but then um I think it was public work said it was kind of difficult to give a discount.

2:27

Um connection fees because then it was wasn't fair to other users on it, or was that regarding like uh I don't know, I feel like we had something similar to this before.

2:42

Um I I spoke into Wastewater staff and um uh they didn't have any comments like in that regard.

2:50

Okay.

2:52

Okay.

2:53

Thank you.

2:55

Any other questions, members?

2:57

Okay.

3:02

So at this time we'd like to open up to our public, so if you can come up and state your name.

3:11

For the record, Matt Bernabe.

3:14

Now I'm just gonna say I I I really appreciate the the intent of this.

3:21

But when I hear the word workforce, that's already alarm for uh alarm bells for me because whose workforce housing is this?

3:29

That's the first question I want to ask.

3:31

Is it the hotel industry?

3:33

Whose industry is this?

3:34

Because they should be offsetting that cost if it's their workforce.

3:38

The second thing I want to say is I live in house lots, and as you all have already heard me talk about my area being slated for sewer for many decades at this point, we have that foul smell at the at the corner of the highway that I constantly gotta smell.

3:53

And I'm not the only one, and that's because it's a lack of use.

3:58

So if you're gonna give them a discount, whoever this is, and I'm gonna say one more thing.

4:04

A lot of these houses aren't gonna end up in what we quote unquote consider locals.

4:09

That's fact.

4:10

Maybe a small percentage, 10%, 20%, but a lot of these are going to the open market at the end of the day.

4:15

And so why should we be giving discounts for more people to move here?

4:18

When you get locals like me that are looking at a $60 to $80,000 cost of converting to septic in an area that if you put sewer, you could increase the in the density more than you could if you put septic in every house.

4:32

Because if we tie it into sewer, then people like me could actually add on units, or at least a uh room, and we could increase density this way if you really are talking about helping the housing issue.

4:46

These are the kind of things that just frustrate me when I hear this, and don't get me wrong.

4:49

I understand the intent.

4:51

I appreciate the intent.

4:53

And I love these councils members.

4:55

It's nothing to do with this.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Affordable Housing█████████████████████████████████████████████64%
Homelessness██████████████20%
Procedural███4%
Public Works██3%
Budget Equity Analysis2%
Public Engagement1%
Engineering And Infrastructure1%
Environmental Protection1%
Parks and Recreation1%
Summary of Proceedings

Kaua‘i County Council Committee Meeting Summary – July 9, 2025

The Kaua‘i County Council convened its committee meetings on Wednesday, July 9, 2025, beginning at 8:30 a.m. in Council Chambers, Historic County Building, 4396 Rice Street, Līhuʻe, Kaua‘i. The Council considered an ordinance relating to sewer connection fees, approved two prior meeting minutes, and received a comprehensive Housing Agency briefing. The agenda included a possible executive session, but the open transcript shows none was convened. The provided minutes source contained no written minutes; the transcript reflects the Council’s approval of the June 18, 2025 Planning Committee and Finance & Economic Development Committee minutes.

Public Works & Veterans Services Committee

  • Bill 2960 – A bill for an ordinance amending Section 25-11.2, Kaua‘i County Code 1987, as amended, relating to sewers, was moved, seconded, and discussed. A public hearing on the bill had been held June 25, 2025. Councilmember Kanashiro asked whether a similar connection-fee discount had been proposed previously; the County Engineer said Wastewater staff had no comments on that point.
  • Council Vice Chair Cooley, co-introducer with Councilmember Bulasan, said the bill was worked on in prior council terms and had no opposition from the administration; workforce housing would be open to all income-qualified workers regardless of industry, with eligibility based on HUD Area Median Income (AMI). Another councilmember stated that workforce housing was between 100% and 140% AMI and that a 50% connection-fee discount would also apply to the “gap group,” described as 160–180% AMI.
  • The committee approved Bill 2960. Councilmembers Cowden and Holland were excused.

Planning Committee

  • Approved the June 18, 2025 Planning Committee minutes. No discussion; all present voted aye.

Housing & Intergovernmental Relations Committee

  • HIR 2025-02 – The committee received Housing Director Adam Raversi’s comprehensive briefing on current Housing Agency programs and projects. The motion to receive was seconded and carried unanimously.

Key Briefing Points

  • The Housing Agency includes rental assistance, development, homelessness, and administration divisions. The rental assistance division administers housing choice vouchers, veterans’ affairs vouchers, emergency housing vouchers, and a family self-sufficiency program; it supports close to 900 families and contributes nearly $12 million in economic benefit.
  • Section 8 vouchers issued to Kaua‘i households rose from 602 in 2015 to a high of 861 in 2024, with federal funding growing from $5.6 million to an estimated $12.3 million in 2025. About 860 vouchers are currently active; roughly 3,000 people are on the waiting list, and local residents can be preferred when vouchers are pulled, although a durational residency requirement cannot be imposed under federal rules.
  • A $2 million state/EPA cesspool conversion grant program has spent about 40% of funds to help 40 families.
  • Līma‘ola (Lima Ola): Phase 1 included 40 senior affordable rentals, 45 workforce rentals, 32 supportive-housing units, and 38 single-family homes for sale. All rental projects are fully occupied; the first 8 homes are sold and occupied, the second 8 are in escrow, the third 8 have certificates of occupancy, and 16 two-bedroom homes are next. Phase 2 will add about 175 units, with final permits expected in September–October and an invitation for bids before year-end.
  • Waimea: The county purchased 400 acres, with roughly 38–42 acres for housing. The master plan calls for about 400 homes, including 34 larger single-family lots, 108 smaller single-family lots, micro starter units, about 200 multifamily units, and a mixed-use main street. Environmental review is ongoing, followed by a 201H application and state Land Use Commission redistricting.
  • Kīlauea: About 50 acres were acquired for a project responding to the 2006 Kīlauea Town Plan. The draft plan aims for about 344 units, includes a live-work commercial space, and a wastewater treatment plant intended to serve the town. One more community meeting is set for July 31, 5–7 p.m. at Porter Pavilion; a road dedication is scheduled to come to the Council in August.
  • Līhu‘e: About 60 units are proposed near Kaua‘i Community College with a sewer line extension; 66 affordable apartments are planned at Rice and Umi Streets; and the Omao Ridge project will have 96 units in phase 1 and 59 in phase 2.
  • Port Allen (Kayolino): Three buildings of 25 rentals each are planned; one building burned and remains in insurance process, while two buildings with 50 units are occupied.
  • Homeless programs: Phase 2 at Kalola will add 24 supportive-housing units, expected to house 50–60 formerly homeless people. The KEO emergency shelter redesign would expand total capacity from 62 to 168 beds/units, with separate wings for men, women, and families and expanded transitional housing.
  • New initiatives include a fourth master-planned site of over 100 acres in the Līhu‘e area under negotiation, a residential deed restriction program, and a community land trust that would manage leasehold properties once the county reaches a threshold of 50 homes.
  • The director said these projects total about 1,800 new homes under development, compared with a state-contracted study estimate that Kaua‘i needs 5,000 more homes by 2030; all county-supported homes are intended to remain affordable in perpetuity.

Council Discussion

  • Councilmembers asked about waiting-list mechanics, local preference, homeless prioritization (families with minor children, kupuna, and domestic violence victims), staffing (fewer than 30 employees), funding sources (more than half of personnel expenses from non-county funds), and income tiers, including potential gaps for households above 120%–140% AMI. The director said market studies guide unit mixes, and federal funding rules prevent durational residency preferences.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Matt Bernabe testified on Bill 2960 and the housing briefing. He opposed sewer connection-fee discounts for workforce housing, questioned “whose workforce housing” and the definition of “local,” and said a sewer tie-in in House Lots would cost him at least $10,000–$30,000 while septic conversion would cost $60,000–$80,000. He later reiterated that being on a list does not make someone local and urged the county to bring sewer service to House Lots; he was cautioned against swearing.
  • Sherry Cummings testified on the housing briefing. She disputed that the Port Allen Kayolino project is at 100% occupancy, saying very few families are there and are struggling. She spoke about Marshallese families, including COVID-affected families and homeless communities, who face barriers navigating assistance systems and need interpreters. She asked what will happen to federal dollars and income-eligibility requirements if the intended eligible population cannot be found, and she urged attention to DHHL beneficiaries.

Finance & Economic Development Committee

  • Approved the June 18, 2025 Finance & Economic Development Committee minutes. No discussion; all present voted aye.

Committee of the Whole

  • No items were on the agenda, and the committee was not convened for substantive business.

Key Outcomes

  • Bill 2960 (sewer ordinance amendment) was approved by the Public Works & Veterans Services Committee; Councilmembers Cowden and Holland were excused.
  • The June 18, 2025 Planning Committee minutes were approved unanimously.
  • The Housing Agency briefing (HIR 2025-02) was received unanimously.
  • The June 18, 2025 Finance & Economic Development Committee minutes were approved unanimously.
  • No executive session was held during the open portion of the meeting.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, good morning. I'd like to call our public works and veteran services committee to order we do have quorum this morning. Um so at this time, can we clerk? Can you please read uh one item on the agenda? Bill number 2960, a bill for an ordinance amending section 25-11.2, Kauai County Code in 1987 as amended relating to sewers. Move to approve. Second. Moves approved by council clean second by the public testimony. Oh, you not on. Second. Sorry, my um second. Second. So approved, right? Seconded by council member Shiro. Any discussion? Anyone have anything on the wanna come up and say a few words? I have a question. Question, go ahead. This is the one regarding the what you bring on the fee. Yes. Affordable housing. We have a question by council member Kanashiro. Wait, what? Wait. We're not at public testimony yet. Oh yeah. Can you hold off a little while? And then we'll call Troy too to the stand right now because Councilmember Conishure has a fast question, then we can open up to public. Oh no, council members. Um Troy Tunigal County Engineer for the right. In the past, I feel like we had a proposal similar to this, but then um I think it was public work said it was kind of difficult to give a discount. Um connection fees because then it was wasn't fair to other users on it, or was that regarding like uh I don't know, I feel like we had something similar to this before. Um I I spoke into Wastewater staff and um uh they didn't have any comments like in that regard. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, members? Okay. So at this time we'd like to open up to our public, so if you can come up and state your name. For the record, Matt Bernabe. Now I'm just gonna say I I I really appreciate the the intent of this. But when I hear the word workforce, that's already alarm for uh alarm bells for me because whose workforce housing is this? That's the first question I want to ask. Is it the hotel industry? Whose industry is this? Because they should be offsetting that cost if it's their workforce. The second thing I want to say is I live in house lots, and as you all have already heard me talk about my area being slated for sewer for many decades at this point, we have that foul smell at the at the corner of the highway that I constantly gotta smell. And I'm not the only one, and that's because it's a lack of use. So if you're gonna give them a discount, whoever this is, and I'm gonna say one more thing. A lot of these houses aren't gonna end up in what we quote unquote consider locals.

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