Hello, Knoxville.

This is your Knoxville Beer Board.

Today is Tuesday, March 17th, 2026.

Welcome everyone here and those watching from home.

If there is anybody watching from home.

Mr.

Johnson and Ms.

Hall.

Would you please call the roll?

Mr.

Johnson.

Councilman Adams.

Here.

Councilman Debartelman.

Here.

Vice Mayor Fugood.

Here.

Councilman Grant?

Here.

Councilman Helsley.

Here.

Councilman Honeycott?

Here.

Councilman Lloyd.

Here.

Councilman Parker.

And Councilman Thomas.

Eight members present, Chair.

Thank you.

The minutes of the last meeting were distributed by email.

Are there any corrections to the minutes?

No.

And they will stand approved as distributed.

Mr.

Johnson, do we have anyone signed up for public comments germinating to today's agenda?

No, Chair.

Thank you.

Seeing no one signed up.

Reports of officers.

I don't have one.

I still have training wheels on.

Officer Presley.

Back to you in a minute.

Yes, since the last beer board meeting, uh TABC has conducted four actually alcohol compliance checks here in the city that have uh beer permitted businesses in those.

Uh the first one was on February 26th.

Uh that one.

See the businesses that actually sold alcohol to a minor on that day was Palancho's Mexican.

Hilton Garden Inn, Knoxville, Chesapeake's, Kroger on Broadway, uh, the Marriott Knoxville downtown, Balter Beer Works, and Cumberland House, Knoxville.

Uh the next one was on March 3rd.

That day, the businesses that sold alcohol to a minor was Tokyo Sushi and Steakhouse and Aubrey's and Powell.

Uh there was one on March 11th.

Uh we had some sales on that day.

That was true by Hilton, Knoxville North, the Holiday Inn at Merchant Center Boulevard, and Zelante Taquiera.

And then the last one would have been on March 12th.

I believe there was only one sale on that day, and that was La Pinata Mexican restaurant.

Did we do anything with all that?

Mr.

Johnson.

Thank you, Chair.

Uh in front of your seats, council, you have a copy of uh the report uh from the the clerk.

Uh there is one active suspension replication hearing that is for union jacks.

They're also on your agenda for this evening for an administrative hearing.

They did not file their revised remedial plan or pay their fine by the deadline, which was last Tuesday.

So the law department has filed a non-compliance complaint in that matter.

It's scheduled to be heard for a preliminary hearing in April.

Uh below that there is an overview of the beer fund.

Uh, the beer fund sits at 268,000 when we are at some 169 percent of fines uh versus the budget for fines, budgeted 10,000 for fines, and we're at about 17,000 uh received in fines thus far.

Are there questions?

That's all I have.

Thank you.

The next matters of business are items to be postponed or withdrawn.

Mr.

Byrd, are there any applicants requesting a postponement?

Uh yes, ma'am.

There are four um items eight C and 8D, Crafty Bastard Brewery, as well as 8G Petros and 8H plugged in.

They would all uh need to be postponed to April 28th if possible.

Okay, without objections, items 8C, 8D, 8G, and 8H or postponed as requested.

Are there any applicants requesting a withdrawal?

No, ma'am.

Okay, thank you so much.

Before we get started, I got a few announcements to make.

When I call the names of the businesses applying for the permit, please come to the podium, state your name and address clearly for the record.

Applicants who are approved pending final documentation need to bring their completed documents to the business tax office during regular business hours.

Applicants that have their permit approved tonight can pick up their permit at the end of this meeting.

Approved pending final documentation means one or more requirements are incomplete for a beer permit.

In order to get your certificate of occupancy, an applicant may need to apply for zoning changes, meet parking requirements, submit architectural drawings to plans, review, and inspections, and make modifications for building and codes compliance.

This may entail hiring an architect and or contractor and submitting plans of your site for review.

Staff at this meeting, we have Mr.

Bird, visits office.

We have who else we got?

MDC, who's here from MDC.

Anybody?

Oh, nobody's here today.

And Madam Chair, uh, Mr.

Johnson was not able to make it today, but I do have his cards for those who would uh need his help with the CO process.

Okay, thank you so much.

So let's get started.

Special event beer permit requests.

Dogwood Arts.

Abigail's here, yes.

She got three.

Thank you so much.

Um record.

Mr.

Bird.

The file is complete.

Move to approve.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed?

Ayes have it.

You want to tell us about your event?

I know you have three, but you can like if you want to just pigeonhole each one of those.

You can yeah.

The first one is um a chalk walk.

So that's our one-day chalkwalk event in Market Square.

Um we have over 300 artists decorating the ground with chalk, and we have food trucks and drinks served um all day until an hour before the event closes.

April 11th.

April 11th.

Okay, thank you.

And the next one is the one for the festival itself.

Yes.

Um record.

Mr.

Burt.

Uh that file is also complete.

Looking for a motion.

Move to approve.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Ayes have it.

You'll and you can tell us when the date is for that one as well.

Yes.

Last weekend in April, the 24th to the 26th of April.

24th or the 26th.

Okay, and then the Knoxwell's mural and music festival.

Yes, that one is May 30th, and it's in Emory Place in North Knoxville.

May 30th.

Okay, thanks.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Byrd.

Uh that file is complete.

So approve.

Second.

All in favor.

Opposed.

Ayes have it.

And you are good to go.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

And everybody knows about the Dogwood Arts Festival.

So that's all right.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Oh, I was just going to be on that.

They're yearly activities and especially the chalk walk.

They amaze me.

And it really adds a lot to downtown.

And most of its people can do it for free.

So I appreciate you.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Evape lounge.

Hello, Seth Barber, 7700 Queensbury Drive, Knoxville.

Thank you.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

The file is complete.

Motion.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Well, looks like that was easy.

Doing the second one now, or go and come back later.

I have two.

I didn't know you've had two on here.

Just keep standing there.

Sorry.

I'm apologizing.

I still want to introduce myself twice.

You don't have to.

Good.

We know who you are.

We're good.

The Happy Holler Project Hall Road 26.

Yes, ma'am.

Yes.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

Uh that is also complete.

Motion to approve.

Second.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Eyes have it.

Now you're good to go.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

The Hayes and Historical Museum Foundation.

Whitney, I think is you here.

Okay.

You have two as well, right?

Uh Whitney Patelka, 1917 Bethel Avenue.

Yes, I have two applications.

Dusk and the Dogwoods, right?

Yes.

That sounds fine.

Yeah, skin the dogwoods.

I like it.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

The file is complete.

Move to approve.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

I have it.

One down, one more to go.

And this one is the fourth of July on Mabries Hill.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Burt.

That file is complete.

Move to approve.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

I have it.

Now you're good to go too.

Thank you so much.

Sunlight fund against you.

Knoxville track and field club.

Marathon.

Jessica Mead.

No.

I guess we'll come back to that one.

Okay.

Tell them that.

We'll come back.

Well, we cycle back on through that one.

Thank you.

Casa Don Gallo.

Rooster and Brothers LLC.

Is that one?

Field House Boards.

That's jumped.

Okay.

This one.

Hi.

Luisa Nehas here.

Um I gotta say my address.

Yes, please.

1225 Bishopsville.

Knoxville, Tennessee.

I gotta hear a little bit late.

Sorry.

Um thank you.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Byrd.

Uh, we just need the certificate of occupancy.

So I'd make a motion to approve pending final documentation.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

So pending your certificate of occupancy.

You get back with him, you're good to go.

Okay.

Thank you.

This one's a question mark by that.

Go back to it.

Beard and heel field house.

Is there something with that?

No?

Okay.

Recit Patel 210, March 1 point, Knoxville, Tennessee, 37932.

Thank you.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Byrd.

We need the certificate of occupancy, health department approval, and surrender of the existing permit.

I'll make a motion to approve pending final documentation.

Thank you.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

I have it.

Thank you.

You've got some work to do, but when you get on this, there you go.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh-huh.

Postponed.

DAPS.

Southern Grid LLC.

Billy Dehart, maybe, or that you're Billy Dehart, 3509, Kesterwood Drive, Knoxville, Tennessee.

Officer Presley.

Oh, you're catching that.

Well I'm usually the one behind.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

We need the certificate of occupancy and health department approval.

Make a motion to approve pending final documentation.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Okay, you got work to do too.

On it.

Thank you so much.

Everybody got work to do.

Iron Forge Brewing Company.

Hi, this is Audrey Dabu.

Um do you know my personal address or the location of the address or does it doesn't matter.

Address is fine.

Then the six 604 East Jackson Avenue here at Knoxville.

Thank you.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

We need the certificate of occupant or certificate of occupancy and health department approved.

Making a motion to approve pending documentation.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Ayes have it.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Rosaritas, Mexican Cantina.

Good afternoon.

My name is Fwad Rebace.

111 South David Lane, Knoxville, Tennessee, 3792.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

That file is complete.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

I have it.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Oh, is that stuff is wrong?

Sunrise Market.

This is Dignish Humar Patel.

Uh 2845 Western Avenue, Knoxville, Tennessee, 37921.

Thank you.

Officer Presley.

I'm not showing that anyone there has attended Cast class.

I do have uh no record though for the backgrounds.

I'm doing this Thursday coming Thursday.

And no background check.

So which is no no record on the background.

Cast class, okay.

Mr.

Bird.

Well um other than the cast, the certificate of occupancy is all we need.

Okay, well at your pleasure.

Yeah.

Move to approve pending final documentation.

Second.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

I have it.

So cast class.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Volunteer landing marina.

Hi.

Madison Powers, 956 volunteer landing lane.

Thank you.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Byrd.

That file is complete.

Move to approve.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Ayes have it.

That was easy.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeehaw Brewing.

Hello, Charles Ellis 745 North Broadway.

You got four, right?

I'm sorry.

You got four.

Seems like a yes, ma'am.

Yes, yes.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Byrd.

We just need the surrender of the existing permit.

Gotcha.

Motion to approve pending surrender of the existing permit.

Second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Ayes have it.

The next one is also ehaw.

I don't I don't know.

Why do we beard in place?

Beard in place.

Okay.

I'm just trying to track them here.

Okay, thanks.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Byrd.

Likewise, we just need the surrender of the existing permit.

Motion to approve pending surrender of the existing permit.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

Ayes have it.

And lastly.

Next.

This is manufacturer distribution.

July, this one.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

I just need the surrender of the existing permit.

Motion to approve pending surrender of the existing permit.

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

I have it.

One more time.

One more time.

Beard in place.

Officer Presley.

No record.

Mr.

Bird.

Uh you guessed it.

Surrender the existing permit.

Motion to approve pending surrender of the existing permit.

Second.

All in favor.

Aye.

Opposed.

Okay.

Now you're actually good to go.

Thank you all so much.

Thank you.

Addendum to the beer board.

No come no complies.

Oh, there he is.

Pizza.

Matt Ford, 4644, Walker Boulevard, Knoxville.

Thank you.

Officer Presley.

What do we do with this?

Mr.

Byrd.

I think we're just still needing the certificate of occupancy and health department approved.

Correct.

Well, do you have an update on where you are with us?

Still in review, back in review.

So waiting on a permit still.

So between architects, engineers.

Gotcha.

Review.

Any clue on how much time you may need.

I'm another couple months.

So probably a couple months after permit in hand still for build-out.

Still waiting on permit.

What does that look like?

A couple months after your district, buddy.

So I can make a motion to postpone.

You can.

Yeah.

So I mean that's what I'm asking.

So let's stand extended to extended.

For 120 days.

For up to 120 days.

Or 120 days.

Well, if he gets everything completed before 120 days, he sees Mr.

Bird and he doesn't come back.

Okay.

That's the hope.

I would like to make a motion to extend.

Put it out four months to the beer board meeting for four months.

So that'd be April May, June, July.

To July.

Okay.

Second.

All in favor.

Aye.

Aye.

Opposed.

Okay, you have to do live, but whenever you get done, you just go see Mr.

Bird.

Thank you so much.

Beer Board Administrative Hearings for Flip Side Pub on North Shore Drive.

And Mr.

Frost.

Thank you, Chair.

As it was explained earlier, this permittee had two underage sales in less than a two-year period.

The city ordinance requires that by a certain date they file a remedial plan, which is to lay out how they are going to uh fix the issue that uh caused the underage sale and to pay their fine.

Uh there's a deadline to do both.

Uh it is my understanding uh that this permittee did neither.

Uh the ordinance automatically uh says that uh if they are late automatically the law department files a non-compliance complaint.

Uh the law department has done so as referenced at the beginning of the meeting.

Uh nevertheless, uh the permitte is here tonight to explain the situation and answer any questions that uh the members of the beer board may have uh at the end of the uh explanation uh and question and answer uh time.

Uh it'll be up to the members of the beer board to uh accept the explanation and take no further action, or if the beer board determines that further action is needed, uh they there needs to be a motion second and passing uh to refer the permittee uh to the uh hearing officer.

Uh yes, uh I sincerely apologize uh when I met with uh Officer Presley at the task.

Excuse me, I need your name and address for that.

I'm sorry, Aaron Nelson 124 South North Shore Drive.

Thank you.

Not quite uh when I I met with uh Officer Presley about this incident uh at the task class, and um uh I I misunderstood the instructions and uh apparently did not get the mail at my address uh either.

We are taking this very seriously, and uh I I apologize for wasting your time.

Uh we are 100% behind this and taking it very seriously.

I um I it's complete misunderstanding on my part.

I I just want to confirm that everything that was supposed to be done by the certain date has been done.

The permitte has paid the fine as of yesterday and filed a revised remedial plan that has happened, it's a copy of that's in front of your seats.

Okay.

So uh Mr.

Frost.

If he went to a hearing office, if if it went to a hearing, he would have to produce nothing more than he has already produced, correct?

Well, let me parse that a little closer.

Yeah, tell me he is already going to a hearing because he didn't comply uh with getting things done in a timely uh manner.

That's happening no matter what you all do to decide tonight.

But uh if he if you all refer him on to the hearing officer for the underage sale, which is what is before you tonight, then you would uh then he would also have to explain the situation uh there to uh a hearing officer.

Okay, thank you.

I will I'm sorry, I I I did pay my fines to the state, and I I want to make this very clear that uh by no means did I intend to uh lapse on this.

I I just made a uh a mistake and and I apologize wholeheartedly.

Um I we have every intention to take care of this.

Uh I have uh ID scanners, I've I've talked to my entire staff, we're taking this very seriously.

I wholeheartedly apologize.

Yeah, I mean, I I just want to make a comment.

I've actually been to Union Jacks establishment.

I think it's a great establishment um friendly environment.

Um this is uh no my my first time up here on beer board.

Um and I'm a firm believer in giving people that opportunity uh to make things right.

Um so I just you know you being a man of your um I want to give you that opportunity.

Thank you.

So I just wanted to make that a note.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, uh I'll I'll agree, but you know, you do have a couple strikes against you, so you know obviously you know you do take it seriously and and clean up the process because and and when you are asked to provide the information, part of the reason you're asked to provide it in a timely manner so that we have chance to review it prior to this meeting.

believer in giving people that opportunity uh to make things right um and so I just you know you being a man of your um I want to give you that opportunity thank you so I just wanted to make that a note thank you very much yeah I'll I'll I'll agree but you know you do have a couple strikes against you so you know obviously you know you do take it seriously and and clean up the process because and and when you are asked to provide the information part of the reason you're asked to provide it in a timely manner so that we have chance to review it prior to this meeting so um but that being said I agree with councilman grant and everyone so I've read the report and of course listen to your testimony so I do not intend to make a motion to send them to the hearing office for further action councilwoman Parker no I didn't have anything on this item oh okay your lot was on okay thanks um it's been on for a while so I guess you know do I formally make a motion to approve because if we do not make a motion to basically yeah to rule it day rule it did I do that to people I'm kidding I was supposed to rule this data that's what I'm just quoted from the lawyer so we take a we're taking no action so it's a good thing for you wonderful thank you very much I I appreciate your time I just have a question for clarity because uh council frost said that they're going to a hearing regardless and then um councilman honeycutt just said he was not referring them to a hearing so clarifying so they are going to a hearing because they failed to comply with the timeline for the uh remedial plan and the fine uh there was the opportunity this is probably not the the best legal terminology for a double dip at the hearing if you all did not like what this gentleman had to say or if the uh situation was very egregious uh so what would have happened had you all sent it to the hearing officer they would would have amended their noncompliance uh law department would have amended the non-compliance complaint to add uh the underage sale issue but if you all take no action uh it will only be uh heard in terms of not doing things in a timely manner okay thanks for clarifying you're welcome you want to could we make sure that we get a good address on file because they're probably gonna send some more certified mail to you certainly you can get sure you're getting everything and I just also want everybody to know there was another part to this y'all saw where he was or where his business was issued a citation about cast he took care of that immediately as soon as they were issued that citation he came to class like the next week and took care of that so that was that's null and void that issue's dead I actually had that uh taken care of in court they didn't have to appear on that so he he was very timely about that but we want to make sure that with Mr.

Bird and with uh Mr.

Johnson here and everybody that we've got a good address that we can get that to I do need to change my mailing address because uh that is that is not my main office so that that's I think that's a big reason why I haven't been receiving mail you took care of all that but you wanted to provide the address now just that we have it okay sir thank you I can email you um the new certified address form and and thank you Mark yes sir thank you very much okay you're good to go all right thank you I appreciate your time thank you sound like that sheriff Amelia Parker Ms.

Parker yeah yes now you have your live for written yes well I'm it's really for I guess maybe the end of the meeting I turned it on wanting to hear more about Hollaroo we went through that section so I was hoping maybe at the end of the meeting we could get an update on Holaroo since Hollaro is still in the house we can do oh he's still here we can do that absolutely amazing thank you so the only thing left we have is the cast some plots and we'll go back to I will go back Knoxville track club listen back over here over here did somebody come in track and field oh here we go she's actually been running last slide hi spot your name and address for the record Jessica Mead it's PO box 5226 Knoxville Tennessee 37950 thank you officer Priscilla no record Mr Bird the pilot is complete move to approve all in favor opposed you're good to go too thank you so much now we can do the cast all right this really look like a lucky day Mr.

Explain all the cast stuff here, please, sir.

All right.

So members of the beer board, we're under item 12 of your agenda other business hearings on permittee compliance with CAST class requirements.

As called for in the beer code, uh, you know, when new people, new permittees are getting uh their permits, they have to go through the task class, and that's noted uh in the paperwork, and Mr.

Berg will say if they've done that or not.

But there's also an uh requirement that a person on the permit must do that on an annual basis.

And uh thanks to the audit committee and beer board chair writer uh and the city internal auditor uh and officer Presley, they looked at and we have a number of uh permittees that have not been complying with their annual task class requirement.

So before she left office, beer board chair writer uh sent out a letter to uh the people that were the um most delinquent, and uh if they hadn't gotten their uh class up to date, they were to have been at the February beer board meeting, but the good news was all of those uh permittees did get the task class uh taken care of, and so that was not on your February agenda.

Uh unfortunately, uh you know there's a list of people that uh are on the agenda for tonight uh because they are out of uh compliance with the annual requirement.

Uh Officer Presley will tell you that uh the class is uh given probably 50 times a year every Thursday, uh all of the people uh not in compliance uh received a letter.

Uh Mr.

Johnson provided me a copy of letters that went out on January 28th, uh explaining the situation and about how they needed to come into compliance, and then if they did not come into compliance, a second letter uh I believe was hand delivered uh that was dated March 12th.

And if those businesses have uh not come into compliance, they're supposed to be here tonight uh where they need to be able to explain why uh they have not uh gotten this done in however many years uh Officer Presley might have that uh uh have that information to share.

And uh they're out of compliance.

Uh they you know you all could decide to send them uh to a hearing officer uh to help get them uh back into uh compliance and uh there could be fines associated with that.

So I would go through them one by one.

I have a question.

Yes, ma'am.

So if people are out of compliance, are they in effect operating without a permit?

I don't know.

Uh that would be a determination for the law department.

I don't make those decisions.

All right, so that was my question.

So it's like if they go to a hearing, is that what they determine?

They could that just fine?

They could have no, that could be a suspension or uh revocation of their beer permit.

Okay.

We wouldn't necessarily do that.

That goes to the hearing.

That's done by a hearing officer.

Good.

Thank you.

Councilman Parker is that um well, I do remember discussion perhaps at the audit committee or perhaps previous beer board meeting about their annual process for renewing their permit, they have to pay a fee every year or something like that.

And there was we were wondering when they go through that process why they couldn't check to see if they had taken the class at that point.

Um, and that seemed to be not a good not a process that we could move forward with.

Um so it seems like they're able to continue to operate under that permit and believe that their permit uh um is still good even if they haven't taken the class.

Um so it seems like they're able to continue to operate under that permit and believe that their permit uh um is still good even if they haven't taken the class I I understand what you're saying uh council member Parker uh but the uh uh their um as a permit holder uh you're charged with being responsible for knowing the law uh that applies to uh the running of your uh business whether it's a beer permit or another situation uh in my opinion uh the current beer board chair and the former beer board chair um uh gave plenty of notice uh encouraging these places to come up uh into compliance and with two different letters and uh for whatever uh reason uh they did not if they're here tonight they have the opportunity to try to explain uh the the circumstances and are you recommending a certain action well uh no I'm not um I I think you know you could uh depending on what you hear from people uh you could take uh no further action uh or you could uh send them to a hearing officer for a suspension revocation hearing I would anticipate that if someone is sent to a suspension revocation hearing that there's a pretty good chance that they'll go to the task class real soon to try to uh avoid uh the situation just like the gentleman that was here from uh Union Jacks I'm not sure she's done okay so can we call it call them call numbers quality restaurant concepts doing business as Applebee's there you go yeah name is Jared Hickson 2912 Knoxville Center Drive thank you officer Presley can you give us uh yes I I can tell you uh that this business has not attended since April 13th of 2023 so that would mean that they would have expired in the following year April 13th of 2024 I have uh sent them letters from my office I have actually personally served someone myself out there with a letter prior to this process starting to try to encourage them to come uh but we've not had anybody come to attend we've been unsuccessful with that um I I'm I move we send this person to a hearing officer second that's just okay excuse me go ahead and give us an explanation please um midway through the year of 2024 human resources came in and either fired or transferred three out of the four managers for my restaurant um so I was left to run my business by myself and due to time management wasn't able to make it to the class okay I still move that this go to a hearing officer I'll second that in discussion I I do have a question is he already enrolled for the task class have you already enrolled for the two years previous I kept up with it yes sir okay so two years proved okay thank you yes sir any further discussion what two years sorry for 21 and 22 since we took it in 23 years I went missed it for 24 and 25 and have gotten letters and served and haven't been able to find the time to go so I think that deserves letting a hearing officer decide what to do rather than us I think what councilman grant was trying to ask is are you already listed on the beer permit as someone who can actually attend the class or do you need to go through the process of getting listed on the permit?

No ma'am I'm already on the you're already on there I'll just verify thank you.

Thank you thank you I'll I'll add a distinction that the person taking the task class has to already be on the beer permit.

So it I mean I if I'm not on for example if I'm not on the beer permit for you know whatever not Watson's it doesn't matter if I take the task class that doesn't count oh you didn't have it okay Councilman Parker um for me since this is a new uh process a new attempt to ensure um businesses are complying with you know long established policies um for me it would be reasonable once the letters are sent out uh and they appear on our agenda if they attend this meeting this is our opportunity to hear from them um and at that point reiterate that um uh the annual task class is is uh um must be you know complied with and then if that

For me, it would be reasonable once the letters are sent out and they appear on our agenda.

If they attend this meeting, this is our opportunity to hear from them.

Um at that point reiterate that the annual task class is uh must be you know complied with.

And then if that is not complied with once they appear on our agenda, then we send them to a hearing.

But I do like the opportunity for individuals to come forward, explain why they haven't complied, us to be able to uh have a conversation, uh emphasize the importance that they do comply, and then at that point, if they don't send them to a revocation hearing.

That would be my um suggestions and acknowledging that that we are um after many many years of having this policy in place, we are now taking steps to ensure that the policy is followed.

Maybe we can take a few steps before sending folks to revocation hearing.

We have a motion on the floor and a second.

I'm I'm gonna speak to my motion.

Okay, go ahead.

So um the reason I made my motion is I I don't think it's due to a lack of trying on people to get people into compliance.

And if this had just been missing it for one year, maybe, but this is missing it two full years, and here we are, it's 2026.

So I I just respectfully disagree, and I attend to um vote in favor of sending this to a hearing because I think until we start holding people accountable, um we're gonna continue to deal with this.

Yeah, I mean, I agree.

Officer Presley said she made a number of attempts.

They use mail, she went out there physically herself.

Um I don't think this is you know an attack on this gentleman.

I think it actually caused him to say, you know what?

Let me go ahead and get you know this task certification.

So and I hope that's you know um how you take it.

So again, I'm gonna support Vice Mayor if you get on this.

Um I'm more than happy to attend the class, regardless of what the outcome is.

Thank you, sir.

Appreciate it.

Absolutely.

Is that it?

Nobody else can think okay.

Just always take a vote.

All in favor of the motion.

Aye.

Aye.

Opposed?

Okay.

No.

So it will go, but you can do that.

Cast class any Thursday before it'll be this Thursday, ma'am.

There you go.

Thank you so much.

Um will I need to follow up with anybody or see the notice on the hearing?

I'm not sure that would be the law department.

Will you will be in contact with you?

I'll send a letter, right?

I don't know.

Yes, letter.

A letter.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yes, thank you.

At all, no.

Okay.

There's Sarah Powell, not that which one?

Uh 2050 South South Ridge Road.

Okay, you can come up.

We need to dispose of this one first.

What name?

We have to get rid of that.

Okay, because I just figured my name is Megan Inman.

Uh 11 South Rich Road, 37924 in Knoxville.

Okay, one second.

So we finish with her and then because they're all together.

Okay.

Just sit right there at the front.

We have to do the further the first ones first, I'm told.

That was my bad.

So this is the one on Sutherland Avenue, and there's no one here for that.

So Mr.

Frost, what do we do?

I move approval.

I move to send them to a hearing officer.

Second.

Second.

Any discussion.

Well, Officer Presley, how far out of date is this location?

So this location is uh about the same as the other.

It was 720 of 23 when it attended.

Uh they have a little bit of what I would call kind of a special situation in the fact that the gentleman I spoke to there, he just became the manager there, and he is not on the permit at this time, but he had actually attended CAS within the past year for a business he prior worked at.

So if he would go down and get on the permit, that would be a real simple, quick resolve for this for this business.

If he just goes down and gets on the permit, and we talked about it, um, he seemed open to doing that.

He just wanted to talk with the district manager first before he did so.

I've not heard back from him.

That was Friday when I served that notice to him, but I would like to see them uh take care of that easily that way.

I I'm sorry, I'm just so confused because by the time I mean these the business owners, the people who know about this have been getting notified for a couple of years, and that is what bothers me the most that that people have been notified.

It's not like nobody told them their beer it was time to do their task class, they just didn't do it, and nothing had ever happened to them.

And um the beer board has decided to take its obligation seriously, which is if you're out of compliance, you're out of compliance, and there's a consequence.

Um a rule not enforced is not a rule.

So I you know, I don't want to I don't want to unduly punish someone, but if corporate headquarters isn't paying attention, that's my concern.

So I have a motion if y'all disagree, we can vote that down.

I'll take it.

Okay, thank you.

Go ahead and vote on it.

Anyway, further discussion, Charlie.

Yeah, I would agree, and there's like four from Dollar General and on this thing, and it I think it does, it's probably not as uh negative toward the people that are showing here, but it's a corporate thing, and I think until we start enforcing it, uh this is gonna keep going on.

So I agree with the motion.

So okay, all in favor?

Opposed, I seven.

So the one uh Southern will be sent to a hearing officer.

Amherst Road is the other one, and I don't think there was anybody here either.

So nobody here for that.

It's like I'm on one with a second while I move so that we that we're called out one more time.

Amherst Road, uh Dollar General.

I think there was only one person here.

Sorry.

I I moved that we send this to a hearing officer as well.

Second, and just for you goes from what was their date?

Uh they attended the same date as Sutherland Avenue 720 of 23.

Okay, okay, okay.

You second that didn't sound like thank you.

Thank you.

Any discussion?

All in favor?

I opposed.

I have it.

That one will be sent to a hearing officer as well.

Now, South Rich Road, we have somebody here to talk about.

Uh hi, my name is Megan and Men.

Uh 110 Southridge Road, 37924.

Um, to speak on why my store hasn't is basically turnover.

I don't know if you guys go into Dollar Generals, but it's mostly one employee, and it's you try to do the most you can.

And my particular man, I've been in this store since 2024, but I just become into management.

My district manager keeps changing.

So since October, we've had a district manager that's kind of given us guidelines and what we're supposed to do.

I did receive a letter in February, I believe.

I showed up to the class, but didn't really have much direction from my district manager, so I didn't know that you had to do cash, so I had the cards, so I left.

Um I haven't had the opportunity to get back in there.

I'm the only manager on duty in my store, and even today I worked till I came here, so it's just hard to get both.

But I have intentions on going to the class.

I just that's that's the reason that location.

I can't speak for the other locations, but turnover and just not having help is the reason my location is delayed.

I don't even know when the last time they were there.

In the class, when he was uh this one was actually five, four of twenty-three.

Are you listed on the permit for this business?

Have you been through background checking and everything?

I haven't done the background check.

I went to the city county building and filled out an application.

I didn't do the background, I haven't done the fingerprints or the background.

Um I literally got an application from my district manager, met me today because she knew I was coming here and gave me an application to fill out and said she was sending a bunch of us to the class next Thursday.

Um, but every time that I've gotten something I've tried to go forward with it, I just didn't know the direction.

There's really no information being shared in those stories.

Okay, so vice mayor.

I think I've met with you before at the class, and then you told me to follow back up with yeah, you look familiar.

I think we talked maybe about the process there or something or something.

Yeah.

So again, my my issue is not with you.

Oh, I know.

Um, but I think we need to get district management's attention that this is a big deal if they're gonna sell beer in their stores that they find time for y'all to go.

Yeah, no, I agree completely.

And so, because you shouldn't be this stressed out about trying to manage and still get their own.

Oh, I didn't even know anything about it.

Like I didn't know about the meeting, I didn't miss a lot.

So I who comes, does the owner come to the hearing?

One time it was the district manager that catched member of the manager.

Well, it has been the manager with the district manager, I think, one time is best I recall since I've been on council.

I'm gonna make a motion that we send it to a hearing officer, and it's not you, but I just think district management needs to get the idea that this is you can't let stores go for two years without making sure they're in compliance.

Oh, that okay.

A discussion yes, yes, thank you.

Um if this is the the process that the beer board wants to continue to take.

I just want us to question why we ask that individuals appear before us for this meeting.

If we know we're automatically gonna send them to a revocation hearing.

Um I'm satisfied with individuals who appear at the revocation hearing being given that chance to take the class, because as you've pointed out, it we may not be sending the message to the people that we need to send the message to, but we are making the working class kind of run around a little bit more.

Um I think that we can resolve it here in this meeting.

But if we're not gonna do that, let's think about how we are using this meeting time if they're automatically going to be sent to the hearing.

It seems to me like some of that would be dependent on how far out of date they actually were.

It just so happens that Dollar General doesn't seem to their management from wherever they live, and I don't know where that is, it's not very communicative.

Yeah, that doesn't seem to be the standard.

I think I think the standard we're setting tonight is everybody goes to the hearing.

I don't think that's true because we'll have different dates.

Like I don't like I don't know what date she's got on here.

I also think different situations tonight.

They've already taken the class, then they will comply.

So it seems all situations, at least for tonight, we are sending to a hearing.

Well we don't know yet because there's some on here that have different situations besides the ones we've heard so far.

So I'm going to speak because my lights been on and everyone else seems to just jump in, so I'm going to uh I I do see a difference thinking about the dollar generals that we've just seen a cascade of um that this individual is speaking about really not having any communication, not being in the info um stream, and a willingness to be here, and I do think it's we're trying to get to the district person who can make a change here, but I think there's a good faith in in her being here and and doing the right thing and trying to.

So for this one, I would not want to send them on, but to provide some other uh another month or something so that the person gets here to do what we need to have done.

Okay.

Um I'd like to amend my motion.

Okay, to postpone this for one month to give them time since she's here to get in compliance.

I will second that motion.

Yeah, I'm and I so I'm sorry if I might I agree with you.

I think this is a great compromise on this particular situation.

Miss Admin is your last name?

Admin?

Uh first of all, I hope your managers give you a raise and understand.

Yeah, but yeah, let's all give her a route of applause, seriously.

Uh you know, out of all of the people, all of the dollar generals on here, you showed up, you you know, you were here tonight.

We're trying to send a message to your bosses that they need to support you, uh, and they're not doing that currently.

So uh that's the reason for what we're trying to do.

And so uh, but you being here tonight, thank you.

Thank you for uh speaking on behalf of your store.

I hope your management uh understands that and appreciates it.

Um I'm happy to support the motion to give you another 30 days to work with management before we have to deliver that message.

So thank you.

Thank you.

All in favor?

Opposed.

Okay, you win the trooper award.

Okay, so you no, no, I'm not done yet.

I'm not done.

No, you don't have to walk back, so but you get the trooper award, so but you need to make sure that you get your name on the beer permit, you need to talk to Mr.

Byrd, and then take the cast class some Thursday before next month, and then you'll like be just I don't know.

Yeah, she literally showed up today and told me it was 35 for the background and 50 for the class and all this stuff.

So I have all the papers that I have to fill out to take that now.

I just I just got them today as before I came here.

Okay, sounds like she's on track.

Yes, thank you so much.

Star Plains Pike, is that where we are?

Strawberry Plains Pike, Dollar General.

Maybe they should hire her.

Okay.

Can you do two stores?

So nobody's here, Lynn.

Go for it.

I guess another day.

One thing.

Oh, oh.

We have somebody.

Yes.

Oh, great.

Okay.

Here you go.

7575 Strawberry Plains Pike.

State your name and address for the record, please.

Stacey Murray.

Address.

7575 Strawberry Plains Pike.

Okay, Officer Presley.

Uh they have not attended, let's see, straw planes since.