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Special Common Council Meeting on Municipal Organization and Leadership - September 23, 2026

Common Council & Committees — Wednesday, September 23, 2026
BodyLa Crosse, Wisconsin
SessionCommon Council & Committees
DateWednesday, September 23, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:01

Council members that are excused.

0:06

So to begin this, obviously, this meet special meeting was called to discuss uh the municipal organization and leadership.

0:14

I'm going to read um a little descriptor and then kind of lay out how today is going to go.

0:20

Uh this meeting will explore how different approaches to municipal organization and leadership can support clear roles, effective decision making and accountability.

0:27

We'll consider various organization models and how each could strengthen day-to-day operations and better position of the city to serve the community.

0:35

When I um invited some individuals to come today to help with this conversation or discussion, I should say.

1:45

So without further ado, um, Professor, I'm going to turn it over to you.

1:56

It works.

1:57

All right.

1:58

My name's uh Jeremy Arney.

2:00

I've been at UWL in the political science and public administration department for 18 years.

2:06

Um I've worked on several projects with the city while I'm here, Oktoberfest stuff, family zone stuff, working with the police officers as well and with some department heads.

2:18

So I have experience that way.

2:21

I don't know if you want me to go into background on education and all of that stuff.

2:27

You guys do.

2:31

All right.

2:32

Uh let's see.

2:33

I have a undergraduate, two undergraduate degrees, um, double-majored in history and sociology at Colorado State University.

2:43

I also had a master's degree in sociology at Colorado State.

2:49

Um the title of that was listening to the political voice of young adults.

2:53

So I went and interviewed um young adults on college campuses about um their political views, and that included incarcerated young adults as well.

3:02

So I went into a couple of jails and halfway houses um to talk with them.

3:07

I worked for the city of Fort Collins while I was working on those degrees in uh at CSU.

3:13

Uh, worked at the downtown community center and the senior center, and um ran some youth uh programs for kids with disabilities during the summertime and other leagues and things like that.

3:27

Uh I moved to Denver and got a PhD in public affairs.

3:32

So at one point when I had to take those exams, I knew everything there was to know about public management, public policy, and public administration.

3:41

Um, I've worked with the Boulder SWAT team and FBI agents on certain projects while I was in Denver.

3:49

So I have a background of education and experiences working with City and I love the city, uh, even though I don't uh live in the city.

3:58

I I work here and um every day and want uh the city to succeed.

4:04

And like turn it over to uh Jess and Jay.

4:12

I can outsmart the microphone.

4:14

All right, is that Bert?

4:16

Can you hear me now?

4:16

Okay.

4:17

Well, good afternoon, everyone.

4:19

My name is Jay Shambo.

4:20

It's a pleasure to be here.

4:21

Jess and I are gonna share a little bit about our firm and then just jump into our bios and and and the presentation at hand.

4:29

I think the really exciting stuff is this, of course, but then also the questions and conversation discussion that we all might have at the conclusion of this.

4:38

Our firm has been around for uh a year and a half.

4:41

Uh, we both were practitioners.

4:43

Uh my educational background is not as vast as the um professors, um, but I do have an undergrad and a master's in public administration uh from UW Green Bay and Oshkosh.

4:56

I served a life's work in local government all in Wisconsin.

5:00

I got my start not too far from here in Clark County, a rural area that had twice as many cows as people and really learned a lot about humans and individuals and how they enter how they interact with this thing called government and had a great mentor at that time that encouraged me to pursue a master's in public administration and leave the planning field.

5:20

I started as a planning director and then finished my career at villages, counties, and then the last 10 years at the city of West Bend as the city administrator.

5:31

I did have an opportunity to serve on the League of Wisconsin Municipalities Board prior to that.

5:36

Chose to not retire from the profession, but rather leave and start this company with Jess Wilds.

5:47

Good afternoon, everyone.

5:48

Thanks for having us today.

5:49

My name is Jess Wildes.

5:51

I'm a partner of innovative public advisors.

5:53

And my background is a little different from Jay's and in Dr.

5:56

Jay as well.

5:59

And I got my start in communications.

6:01

I have a master's in marketing and communications, served for many years as in the private sector and not profit sector as communications director, mainly in higher education.

6:11

Then at one point, uh met an individual who opened my eyes to local government administration.

6:18

I started at the city of West Bend to begin their communications department to start it and to create a consolidated department that would position the city for success.

6:29

That position quickly grew into an economic development manager role.

6:32

And then I went back to school, also got a second master's degree in public administration, and I later served in an assistant city administrator.

6:40

Jane, I started this firm because we are advocates for professional public management and belief that innovation is needed at all levels of government, municipal government, county government, and we're just here to help.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Personnel Matters█████████████████████████████████████████████55%
Municipal Organization███████████14%
Budget Equity Analysis███████8%
Public Administration████5%
Fiscal Sustainability████5%
Procedural███4%
Governance Structure██3%
Public Engagement██3%
Grant Funding██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Special Common Council Meeting on Municipal Organization and Leadership - September 23, 2026

Note: The agenda listed the meeting as Tuesday, September 22, 2026, but per the user instruction, this summary uses the date September 23, 2026.

The Common Council of La Crosse, Wisconsin held a special meeting to discuss municipal organization and leadership models. The meeting featured presentations from Dr. Jeremy Arney (UWL political science professor) and consultants Jay Shambo and Jess Wildes of Innovative Public Advisors, followed by council deliberation on the city's current structure and potential changes.

Discussion Items

  • Presentations on Organizational Models: The consultants outlined five common structures: Chief of Staff, Administrative Coordinator, Director of Operations, City Manager (Chapter 64), and City Administrator (Chapter 62). National data from ICMA showed that 75% of responding U.S. cities with populations over 5,000 have a chief appointed official, with 53% of cities 5,000+ and 62% of cities 50,000+ employing professional management. In Wisconsin, 129 of 190 cities (68%) have either an administrator or manager, with 117 administrators and 12 managers.
  • Current Challenges Identified by Council Members: Multiple council members cited a lack of clear lines of authority, inconsistent accountability among department heads, and insufficient continuity across elections as key problems. Council member Goggin emphasized the need for a single point of supervision for department heads. Council member Trost noted that department heads sometimes disengage from political chaos, and council member Weston highlighted the difficulty of holding the mayor accountable for policy implementation. Council member Stine pointed to the value of professional management for grant-seeking and long-term planning.
  • Comparison of Models: Council members debated the merits of a City Administrator (reporting to the full council) versus a Chief of Staff or Director of Operations (reporting to the mayor). Mayor Washington-Spivey expressed interest in a Director of Operations as a cost-effective, less disruptive alternative that supports the existing mayor-council structure. Council member Dickinson questioned the salary ranges for different positions and how they are determined. Council member Newberry raised concerns about the political vulnerability of positions created by simple ordinance versus charter ordinance.
  • Budget and Transition Concerns: Several council members, including Janssen and Goggin, emphasized that the primary barrier to a City Administrator is the cost (estimated around $200,000) and the difficulty of justifying new spending while requiring department cuts. Consultant Jay Shambo argued the position often pays for itself through grants and efficiencies, but council members requested concrete financial projections. Council member Mindel asked about the timeline for visible positive changes, and the consultants noted incremental improvements would begin immediately but full transformation takes time.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion Passed (20:20): Council member Weston moved to direct the finance team, under the mayor's direction, to develop cost scenarios for multiple position options (City Administrator, Director of Operations, Chief of Staff, etc.) for the 2027 and 2028 operating budgets (and possibly 2029). The motion passed unanimously (voice vote, no opposition recorded).
  • Next Steps: Council members requested that the financial analysis be distributed before any further meetings. Council member Stine asked for specific written proposals for each option, rather than continuing general discussion. Council member Janssen advocated for interim solutions before the next mayoral election, while maintaining interest in a future City Administrator. A follow-up meeting will be scheduled after the financial report is available.
  • Future Engagement: Council member Jenssen requested that department heads be included in future discussions; Mayor Washington-Spivey noted many were present as observers and would be invited to participate moving forward.

Meeting Transcript

Council members that are excused. So to begin this, obviously, this meet special meeting was called to discuss uh the municipal organization and leadership. I'm going to read um a little descriptor and then kind of lay out how today is going to go. Uh this meeting will explore how different approaches to municipal organization and leadership can support clear roles, effective decision making and accountability. We'll consider various organization models and how each could strengthen day-to-day operations and better position of the city to serve the community. When I um invited some individuals to come today to help with this conversation or discussion, I should say. So without further ado, um, Professor, I'm going to turn it over to you. It works. All right. My name's uh Jeremy Arney. I've been at UWL in the political science and public administration department for 18 years. Um I've worked on several projects with the city while I'm here, Oktoberfest stuff, family zone stuff, working with the police officers as well and with some department heads. So I have experience that way. I don't know if you want me to go into background on education and all of that stuff. You guys do. All right. Uh let's see. I have a undergraduate, two undergraduate degrees, um, double-majored in history and sociology at Colorado State University. I also had a master's degree in sociology at Colorado State. Um the title of that was listening to the political voice of young adults. So I went and interviewed um young adults on college campuses about um their political views, and that included incarcerated young adults as well. So I went into a couple of jails and halfway houses um to talk with them. I worked for the city of Fort Collins while I was working on those degrees in uh at CSU. Uh, worked at the downtown community center and the senior center, and um ran some youth uh programs for kids with disabilities during the summertime and other leagues and things like that. Uh I moved to Denver and got a PhD in public affairs. So at one point when I had to take those exams, I knew everything there was to know about public management, public policy, and public administration. Um, I've worked with the Boulder SWAT team and FBI agents on certain projects while I was in Denver. So I have a background of education and experiences working with City and I love the city, uh, even though I don't uh live in the city. I I work here and um every day and want uh the city to succeed. And like turn it over to uh Jess and Jay. I can outsmart the microphone. All right, is that Bert? Can you hear me now? Okay. Well, good afternoon, everyone. My name is Jay Shambo. It's a pleasure to be here. Jess and I are gonna share a little bit about our firm and then just jump into our bios and and and the presentation at hand. I think the really exciting stuff is this, of course, but then also the questions and conversation discussion that we all might have at the conclusion of this. Our firm has been around for uh a year and a half. Uh, we both were practitioners. Uh my educational background is not as vast as the um professors, um, but I do have an undergrad and a master's in public administration uh from UW Green Bay and Oshkosh. I served a life's work in local government all in Wisconsin. I got my start not too far from here in Clark County, a rural area that had twice as many cows as people and really learned a lot about humans and individuals and how they enter how they interact with this thing called government and had a great mentor at that time that encouraged me to pursue a master's in public administration and leave the planning field. I started as a planning director and then finished my career at villages, counties, and then the last 10 years at the city of West Bend as the city administrator. I did have an opportunity to serve on the League of Wisconsin Municipalities Board prior to that. Chose to not retire from the profession, but rather leave and start this company with Jess Wilds. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for having us today. My name is Jess Wildes.

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