0:13Good morning, everyone.
0:15Today is Tuesday, September 2nd at 8:30 a.m.
0:19And I call to order the lake county health and community services committee meeting.
0:24Did we just start the recorder?
0:26Oh, I thought they said okay.
0:28In addition to being able to attend in person, remote attendance has been made available to the public via Zoom at the link on the agenda.
0:36This meeting is being recorded through Zoom.
0:39Per county board rules in the open meeting act, attendance via remote means is permitted for qualifying reasons.
0:45As long as the majority of the committee members are physically present, which we do have.
0:52So we've been notified in advance by members, uh, vice chair Altenberg and Member Kniesnik that they will have requested to participate electronically due to one of the qualifying reasons.
1:03A fill a physical court is present, so they may be marked as present and are eligible to vote on matters before the committee today.
1:10As a reminder, two members attending remotely, please ensure your camera's on at all times.
1:18And I think we can then go to item number two, which is the Pledge of Allegiance.
1:22If I could ask Member Kasman to join me.
1:34One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
1:41Can I have a roll call of members today, please?
1:44Vice Chair Altenberg.
2:03Is any is there any addenda to the agenda today?
2:06No addenda to the agenda.
2:11Any unfinished business?
2:13No unfinished business.
2:15New business is the consent agenda.
2:18Motion by Cunningham, second by member Kasbin.
2:21All those in favor say aye.
2:268.3 is regular agenda.
2:30Is a joint resolution approving an agreement between Lake County and North Chicago School District 187 for the completion of an environmental review record.
2:39And we welcome Dominic Strozo, community development administrator.
2:43Motion by, oh yeah, I forgot.
2:45Motion by Member Cunningham, second by member Maine.
2:51Good morning, committee.
2:52Uh, we are seeking approval to enter an agreement with the North Chicago School District to perform an environmental review.
2:58Uh the school district is a recipient of community project funding that fully flows directly from HUD to the school district.
3:05Um, per the federal requirements, they don't meet the definition of a responsible entity to perform the required environmental review report.
3:13Um, so we are entering into an agreement to perform that service for them.
3:17We've entered into, I'd say roughly about 10 of these agreements since about 2022.
3:22This would be the second one with North Chicago School District.
3:25The first one I think was in 2022 for demolition.
3:28This is for uh retrofitting one of their a different property on Green Bay Road.
3:36Any questions from the committee?
3:37I just have a minor question for you, Dominic.
3:39Do we do we charge them an hourly rate or something to for the review?
3:44We are reimbursed for time and materials on these reports.
3:50All right, member main.
3:52So are we our employees doing this, or are we contracting out or both?
4:00A little bit of both.
4:01I mean, if needed, we do sometimes require third-party reports, like from a consultant.
4:06Um, but it is completed by I sign the report.
4:09So it is signed off by Lake County staff.
4:14So health department is doing it.
4:16Um, PB, you know, development staff.
4:19I'm just curious, like who's in-house doing this for them?
4:23Community development staff.
4:25Um when I first started at the county.
4:27This was my kind of my sole function doing these environmental reviews.
4:30Now there's other staff within community development that helps put them together.
4:46This is great for us.
4:55All those in favor say aye.
5:008.4 is a joint resolution approving extension to an intergovernment intergovernmental agreement between Lake County and the Lake County Housing Authority for the completion of the 24 CFR Part 58 environmental review records.
5:13Motion by Member Kasmin, second by member vice chair.
5:19So very similar request.
5:21Um, same type of service we provide.
5:23We would be providing for the school district.
5:24In this case, it would be for the housing authority.
5:27Slight difference here is the agreement with the school district is for one specific project.
5:32Their agreement for the housing authority is for all their funding streams across um what a one-year calendar year.
5:38So there could be multiple projects that come through.
5:40Um but in terms of the terms of the agreement and getting reimbursed, all the terms and responsibilities are the same as the previous agreement.
5:53Any questions from the committee?
5:57All those in favor say aye.
6:038.5 is a joint resolution accepting the emergency solutions grant from Illinois Department of Human of Human Services and authorizing emergency appropriation in the amount of 32,776 dollars for grant administration and management of the homeless management information system.
6:20Motion by Member Kasman, second by member Cunningham.
6:24So that's an appropriation of federal dollars that flow through the state.
6:28The emergency solutions grant or ESG comes from HUD.
6:32We also are recipient of that grant funding.
6:34We apply to the state for a slice of their uh appropriation as well.
6:38The funds will be used to manage our homeless management information system or HMIS, essentially staff cost.
6:44We have a HMIS coordinator on staff and CD.
6:47And this will help offset um some of their staffing costs.
6:52Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to be just an annual grant we receive.
6:56Thankfully, yes, uh, it is an entitlement grant.
6:58Um, but yes, correct.
7:02Any questions from the committee?
7:04All those in favor say aye.
7:178.6 is a joint resolution authorizing an environment and uh in intergovernmental agreement between the county of Lake through the Lake County Health Department and the village of Lakemore pertaining to the delegation of enforcing authority for on-site waste treatment system provisions in the port of Sullivan Lake.
7:35Any motion by member Cunningham, second by member Kasman.
7:42Chris Hoff, executive director of the health department.
7:44Just here to uh remind you all that uh Mike Adam uh is our taking over as the deputy, the director of environmental health when Larry Mackey retires.
7:52Uh, you'll see a lot more of him here in this role, um, introducing these resolutions and answering questions for you.
7:57So I just want to thank Mike for taking into that role.
7:59Uh share with you all, make sure you saw that news and uh welcome Mike.
8:04Thank you very much and glad to be here and looking forward to working with all of you.
8:07Uh work with some of you in the past and certainly in the future.
8:10So this resolution in the governmental agreement with the ports of the lake village of Lakemore regarding the ports of Sullivan.
8:18Um, this is kind of an unusual situation.
8:21This is a uh area that used to be an RV park, uh seasonal RV park back in the 1980s, which was regulated by the Illinois Department of Public Health.
8:30Uh, that I guess the best word to use is evolved into permanent residence, uh, trailers and different things.
8:37They turn it over to the health department.
8:39Uh a couple decades ago, we have had repeated issues out there with the homeowners association trying to deal with their holding tanks because they are such small lots, they have to have for their sewage is a holding tank, and that requires a lot more maintenance.
8:52And so we've had some issues uh various agreements that did not work out.
8:56So the village of Lake Moore, because they're it's within their village.
8:59They decided that, or they asked us if they could be have the regulatory authority to enforce our chapter 171, which is our on-site wastewater uh ordinance basically with septic system.
9:12So they can uh with this agreement go out and do some enforcement.
9:16We will still be involved in that.
9:18Um, but they will have that authority to issue any fines or anything like that if there are issues out there.
9:26And we did have this uh valid with a state's attorney uh who provided a lot of input for us.
9:35I have a general question if anyone doesn't have one to start, but I guess my question is is the health department the right is going forward.
9:42Are you guys the right entity to be doing this, or is there other departments within the health?
9:45I just kind of thought maybe public works or someone else might be.
9:48You guys are the right on-site wastewater, so that includes any septic on-site, yes, not like a public sewer.
9:57Yeah, that would be within like the village of Lake Moore or County or wherever the entity is, yeah.
10:02But on site guys, okay.
10:06I was just gonna say that our public works is an enterprise system.
10:12So that's only people who have contracts with us to do their to do their waste or some of those other things.
10:21These are wait, they're on.
10:24No, but that they don't have anything with us.
10:27They've got those tanks and they can contract with people to come pump them out.
10:32Yeah, pump out their tanks.
10:34So public works wouldn't get involved at that level.
10:38And do we do others?
10:40Are there other parts of the county where we do a similar thing then?
10:54Anybody who's on septic, right?
10:56Not like an agreement.
10:57No, that's just agreement.
10:58But anybody who has a septic, we're in charge.
11:02We health department is in charge of monitoring that, or if they need a permit for a new septic.
11:09Yep, for alteration or new thing.
11:20These are just RV facilities.
11:23Uh well, they've morphed into homes.
11:25So there are some like double wide trailers, regular, you know, trailers, permanent places.
11:31And each each lot, if you will, has its own holding tank.
11:36So there are a lot of them out there.
11:39So there's a lot of tanks.
11:40And the nature of the violations is what?
11:43Just seepage or spillage or it could be uh the tank has to be pumped every you know a few weeks.
11:48So if they don't do that, it may start to overtop.
11:51Uh or they in some cases, not that thankfully this doesn't happen very often, but some of them might pump their own tank out into the wetland or something like that.
12:01So obviously those are a major violations.
12:03We don't want that happening.
12:04So but they do require a lot more maintenance.
12:07But isn't there an overseeing authority that manages the property that the people are, I think it they're renting lots within the facility.
12:16They do own those lots, they pay taxes on them.
12:20Um, so it's it's within the village of Lakemore.
12:23Um, and so they're the ones that would kind of if they wanted to do something else with that.
12:28They and part of the reason we want to do this is they have a lot of staff already in there keeping an eye on this location anyway.
12:35So they would be able to better better identify if there's some sources going.
12:39So there is no overseen overarching authority that is making sure that like an HOA or something like that.
12:46There is an HOA, and part of the reason we had a lot of agreements with the HOA over the years, but they would never really kind of follow through on it.
12:55And so that's why we've kind of gone to this method.
12:59You know, we were like, we want to try something else because it hasn't been that successful, and we're gonna see how this goes.
13:05And there is a clause, obviously, in there if this doesn't work according to our health codes, we we can then say we're gonna try something else.
13:14How many units are we there are approximately 150 or so?
13:19There's quite a few on there.
13:22I'm remaining yeah, the HOA is that one of those paper ones, like it's a it's a voluntary one, and you can pay in a 25 year whatever.
13:32It's not a legal HOA in which they are required in covenants and stuff to pay in.
13:39I'm not really sure that my guess is if it's at all.
13:43My guess is that it's probably one of those voluntary HOAs that can be as strong as the person who's trying to corral everybody, and that's pretty common to have those too.
13:58All right, any other comments?
14:00Oh, yeah, sorry, Paul Frank has his hand raised.
14:05Yeah, thank you, Chair.
14:06I just want to follow up on member Danforth's questions.
14:09Um, in terms of the nature of the violations, the name of the property has the word port in it.
14:15Is it adjacent to a body of water, or is it just the wetlands that you mentioned?
14:19Uh there is a body of water called Sullivan Lake.
14:22So why it's called the ports of Sullivan Lake.
14:24Uh Sullivan Lake is a very wetland, basically, it's only like four or five feet deep.
14:28But yes, it is adjacent to that, which eventually drains then into the chain of lakes.
14:34And so you're estimating that that that has been an issue, or do we know for sure that people have been discharging into the wetlands?
14:43Uh we don't not have uh concrete information that they have.
14:48We know that there have been issues where the tank is overflowed, whether it actually gets to the body of water or not, it is uh subject to debate.
15:00But we have had issues with mostly overflowing tanks.
15:03Okay, Chair, if I may, just one more comment.
15:05Um I I appreciate you highlighting the section of the agreement that allows us to pivot to alternative methods if not successful, because the goal obviously is compliance, right?
15:20We we need to protect the water and we need to ensure that waste is properly disposed of.
15:25Um there's nothing in this agreement that supersedes or prevents our authority for taking from taking additional action if anything that the village does is not successful, correct?
15:37To my knowledge, yes.
15:45And I appreciate all these questions.
15:47Uh, member Peterson and I have had several conversations over the years, that um, especially out along the chain, there's a lot of these tanks.
15:56And um, the state of Illinois does not require any inspection of these tanks.
16:02Um, there are, I think maybe Mike, it was you who told me, or maybe it was Eric Wagner, that there's a lot of um homeowners, maybe I don't want to say a lot, maybe a dozen or so at any one time in administrative adjudication to have uh because we have found either failing tanks, right?
16:20Or uh it's going into the water, right?
16:24Well, we've had so let me want to clarify some we're talking when we say tanks.
16:29That's different than holding tanks.
16:30If you're talking about all septic systems, there's probably you know 30,000 or so in the county.
16:36And so the holding tanks are very unique, and there's not that many of them other than force of Sullivan.
16:42Um, other than that, there are a few here and there, but primarily we don't really want those.
16:47We want in-ground septic systems because the ground does a very good job actually of eliminating a lot of the bacteria and other things that are in sewage.
16:58So, but we do get occasionally, you know, failures that we are notified.
17:02We could then proceed with our, you know, either adjudication or legal things.
17:07We could go have to go to the state's attorney to do that.
17:10So, but most of the time it's just very, you know, surface on the ground.
17:14It's not like going into a water body.
17:16We rarely find that to be the case.
17:19Uh I just know in the state of Wisconsin by law, they have to people have to have their tanks that are underground inspected to make sure that they're still um in working order, but that's not something that we do in the state of Illinois, which is a shame, particularly for us here in Lake County.
17:34Um, 30,000 septic systems out there.
17:38And if you have some that are leaking, especially into a body of water, it's a huge problem.
17:43So anyway, we've talked about that too, haven't we, Mike?
17:47Thank you, Chair Hart.
17:50Fascinating conversation.
17:51I'm not sure if you guys were expecting that, but that was very helpful.
17:54Any other questions from the committee?
17:57All those in favor say aye.
18:01Thank you, gentlemen.
18:02And great to have you coming here more, Mike.
18:08We'll move on to our last agenda item.
18:13What an efficient meeting.
18:14I told you we were having one.
18:17No, no, no, not yet.
18:21Well, I think Director Serena hope this doesn't take an hour and a half.
18:25All right, 8.7 is joint uh committee action approving contract modification one with North Chicago High School District 187 for a comprehensive career pathway program to workforce innovation and opportunity act youth in the amount of 137,900 with one year renewal option.
18:45A motion by member Cosman and a second by member Maine.
18:53Um, so part of our youth funding we receive through the workforce innovation opportunity act allows us to work with high school students.
19:01And working with high school students, it's providing job readiness, career awareness, and exposure to work-based learning through a work experience, paid work experience.
19:10Um, North Chicago High School has demonstrated success in this area.
19:14This is would be their sixth year in delivering this program.
19:17It has grown over those six years.
19:19We started with 15 high school students, they target the seniors, and we're now at 35.
19:25Um, the success of the program is based on earning a credential.
19:30All of the students earn their high school diploma, skills gain.
19:33They gain skills around career awareness, job readiness skills, understanding what it means to work in the workplace and through some paid work experience.
19:42And then transitioning into post-secondary education, employment, or enlisting in the military.
19:48A hundred percent of the students do graduate high school, about 70 to 80% transition onto post-secondary education, with the majority going on to CLC.
20:00And those that are choosing to transition into employment, come to the job center for additional assistance.
20:04And there they could also take advantage of our programming through additional work experiences, paid internships, or paid tuition through additional schooling.
20:14So recommending this program to continue for another year.
20:26I'm remember talking about it, I guess a year ago.
20:30Is it been a year exactly?
20:33Member Cunningham, did you have a comment?
20:36I serve a workforce executive board in the board.
20:40Well, and I have to excuse myself, but funds is involved.
20:45Thank you for letting us know.
20:48Any questions or comments?
20:51This we talked about it at length quite a bit last year.
20:53And so glad to see us doing this again this year.
20:56Um, any questions from the committee?
21:02They've been doing this for a long time.
21:05It just up the funds.
21:08You know, each year, the county up the funds.
21:10And I think Audrey and I gave uh uh X accounting, they add it like six to five more different you guys wasn't here then and was here.
21:23So uh this is something good for the school, and it went real it goes very well in it in my district, Chicago High School in the ninth district.
21:33So uh, but uh and uh Jennifer went real well with them.
21:37So it's this is something that and we had no problem.
21:45All right, all those in favor say aye.
21:51Oh, with one excused.
21:56Thank you, Director Serena.
21:59Item nine is a county ministers.
22:02Uh county administrators report.
22:03Do we have one today?
22:05Yes, a two-hour report.
22:08No, I just want to make sure that everyone has had a chance to meet Lacey Simpson.
22:12She's our new assistant county administrator.
22:14This is our first time attending this committee.
22:17So welcome to Lacey.
22:19She worked before she did in human results.
22:23She liked it so much she came back.
22:27Well, welcome, Lacey.
22:28Met you last week, obviously.
22:29I forgot that some folks may not have.
22:31So good to have you.
22:34Anything else on the administrator's report?
22:39I do not believe we have one today.
22:43Do we have any member remarks?
22:46I think this is what let's mark the clock here.
22:50This is I think the fastest we've had in two years, at least two years.
22:58We will see everyone at the beginning of October.