I now call the December 4th, 2025 Senior Citizens Advisory Board meeting to order.

Has this meeting been properly noticed and posted in compliance with the Nevada Open Meeting Law?

Yes, it has.

Thank you.

Would the Deputy City Clerk call the role, please?

Chair O'Rearch Cameron.

Present.

Vice Chair Graham.

Present.

Member Galotti.

Excused.

Member Mosdean.

Member Drum.

Excused.

Member Lee.

Present.

Member Tilzer.

Present.

Member Young.

Excuse.

Thank you, Chair.

You have a quorum.

Thank you, Deputy City Clerk.

Item number three, public comment.

Comment during this portion of the agenda must be limited to matters on the agenda for action.

If you wish to be heard, come forward and give your name for the record.

The amount of discussion as well as the amount of time any single speaker is allowed may be limited.

Seeing and hearing none, item number four for possible action to approve the final minutes by reference of the regular meeting of November 6, 2025.

Do I have any corrections or a motion?

Caroline Mosdean award six.

I move to accept the minutes of the November 6th meeting of the senior citizen advisory board as written and presented.

Thank you.

So we do have a motion on the table to approve the meeting of the November 6th, 2025 minutes.

All in favor.

Aye.

Any opposed item number five presentation by Sean O'Brennan, Chief Advocacy Attorney for the Rights of Older Persons and Persons with a physical disability and intellectual disability or a related condition.

State of Nevada regarding attorney duties and powers under the NRS, Nevada revised statutes, Chapter 427A and Assembly Bill 461 for aging persons and persons with disabilities.

All words.

The objective of my office is to support the legal rights of older persons, which is 60 and over, and people with disabilities, to coordinate and provide oversight of legal assistance under the Older American Act, identify and mitigate abuse of older and of vulnerable adults, persons with disabilities, an intellectual disability, or a developmental disability.

And I might point out previously my statute referred to a related condition in 2025 by SB8.

That was changed to developmental disability.

So the law will be revised to reflect that, and I have reflected that on this on these materials.

So in summary, what I can provide is something called technical legal assistance.

And so that I can offer to a board such as yours or in collaboration, say with legal aid, if they would like an issue to be addressed and for me to issue an opinion.

So my statute allows me to do that, and I am considered a subject matter expert.

So that's come in handy a few times when the law may be divided among the different states and there's no clear statutory authority in Nevada, then in that case, my opinion might weigh into the benefit of say an initiative that your board has.

Otherwise, we do not get involved in policy at all, but completely bipartisan.

I can also offer legal resource development.

So one example that was in association with my office before I joined this position was the legal kiosks that you find in the self-help centers and the libraries.

That was an initiative through my predecessor as legal assistance developer with a with a legal aid.

So that's an example of the type of a legal resource development that my office can facilitate.

We also work with interventions and enforcement.

That's complaints, investigation resolution.

So for example, I receive a lot of referrals from adult protective services, also the long-term care ombudsman.

And so I am available.

I do not represent the state of Nevada.

I do not represent those offices.

That is something that I will be working on over the next year.

That's for example the rep pay type of program.

Clark County, for example, Guardian offers a REPE service, but they have a wait list.

That's just an example.

And so maybe I'll be here in a year and we'll talk about what the new state of Nevada financial management program looks like.

Oregon has a quite extensive and advanced financial management program for its most vulnerable adults.

Mine is more from the legal service perspective.

Of course, we have really excellent administrators who process all those grants.

But one example would be if the proposals going out, then I would give oversight what would be appropriate legal services to be offered compared to all the other legal services.

And then as we're managing the grant over time, then I'm checking back with the legal service providers, make sure that they are complying with that request for services.

And that's really important as we're seeing the federal position, I think is uncertain at this time if they will continue a high level of oversight.

So whether they do or not, we will be offering that at the state level.

And so I have entered an appearance in a few cases.

For example, abuse of power of attorney, guardianship cases on behalf of the individual.

Again, issues which I believe have not been fully represented to the judge, so I can on my own file a brief.

But I appreciate that.

And then again, I serve on the guardianship commission, and if you weren't previously aware, they have launched a really excellent education program.

So if anyone is asking you what does it mean to be a guardian or what kind of reporting do I have to do if I'm going to be my adult child, say has severe disabilities, if I'm going to be their guardian or for an aging parent, those resources are now available online through the Guardianship Commission site.

Very good resource.

Some of the issues now, I'm going to go over some of the issues that we're seeing, which is no surprise, I think, to you all, but it can give you an idea of what I'm concentrating on, and then also I would invite you to feel free to reach out to me in the future if you have other issues.

Obviously, the housing stability and eviction legal defense.

What there is a gap when people are removed from their housing for hospitalization or rehabilitation, they are losing their housing.

So I'm concentrating on the idea that if you came into a facility and you had housing, when you leave the facility, you should still have housing.

That is not happening right now.

People are rendered homeless while they're receiving the medical care that they need.

And so that's an area that I'm concentrating on.

It doesn't address all of the homeless issues, obviously, but I think it will have a very material impact for our most vulnerable.

Another is the helps and services for these most vulnerable so that they can see an attorney, attend hearings, and so forth, because even for virtual uh hearings, which we do have in court, they often cannot utilize the technology.

So they need the technical assistance.

So we're working on that ways to make sure that people can preserve all of their rights, especially civil rights in a civil court, because the abuse doesn't always result in a criminal action may not rise to criminal level.

But in a civil court, your burden of proof is lower, it's only preponderance of an of evidence.

So you're much more likely to win in a civil court, but it's an onerous process, and you have to have access to the court or to technology that will take you to the court.

So this is an area of concentration for me.

Another one is abuse of power of attorney.

We continue to work on that, how to identify that and how to prevent that form of abuse because it generally is someone in a position of trust, is a breach of fiduciary.

Another is issues relating to hospice and the personal care assistance referrals for levels of care.

So we are examining that very closely, and please forward those issues to adult protective services or my office because we're giving that a high-level review.

Issues relating to aging in place.

And so the HOA will start citing and finding the homeowner.

And so in those cases, um, I intervene, and those HOAs have some powerful lawyers, let me tell you.

So I'm able to intervene and explain to them.

It's not actually American with Disabilities Act, it's Fair Housing Act.

But the process is very similar because you have to say in writing, demand I have a need for people to park there.

I need oxygen delivered at 2 a.m., whatever it is, and then they have to deny you.

That's how the rights are set up.

For example, so that's an area that it's is I'm committed to being sure that people can age in place.

And so those are the types of issues that we're seeing.

All of these are very important issues.

Um, we do have some eligibility requirements based on financial need or age, but my office can take calls really from anyone, and then I make an appropriate referral.

So that is not a barrier to contacting my office.

Our goal is to cooperate, and then the excuse me, OARA is Office of Advocacy Rights Attorney.

I just had to shorten it, it was too long.

So the Office of Advocacy Rights Attorney goal is to cooperate across government and nonprofit private sector to address these problems.

The first step is to identify the resources to address these issues.

A second step is to identify gaps in service and take effective initiatives in order to provide the service so that not one of our most vulnerable citizens is left to languish.

The regarding the bill AB 461, which was passed, it tasked ADST aging disability to implement a long-term care plan.

And it was interesting because that included services that previously were not identified by maybe any government entity except regulatory, which would be insurance and financial planning, and uh well, legal.

We do address some of the legal needs, but the state doesn't offer resources, say for state planning, like your will or trust.

So this really extended and broadened some of the requirements for ADSD to provide a comprehensive resource database to our citizens.

So we're working on that.

Started by reviewing the five or six plans on aging, we have a lot of them, identifying our services and resources, looking over the service delivery data, what are the challenges, and then the statute actually requires ADSD to survey the best practices of other states for long-term care planning.

So this is underway now.

And at the time of launch, there will be a dedicated website or landing page through ADSD.

We'll come back and let you know so you can disseminate to your constituents that there are additional resources available to them.

A public awareness campaign will be launched and a pilot program to be determined.

We have very strong Office of Community Living, and so they have more regular and extensive contact with the population.

So we'll get back to you about that.

We'll be having workshops and educational series, and then the plan will be monitored.

And so I've just attached a copy of my statute for anyone who would like to reference that.

And other than that, I'd like to know if you have any questions.

Hi, Nicole Graham, uh, Ward 1.

When is the launch 2026?

Do you have a date, first quarter, beginning of the year?

There's so many other people designing that website, but I a report is due to legislature February 1st, so that is already in draft about the steps that have been taken so far.

So that will be available to the public after February 1st.

At this time, we have Nevada 211 and Nevada Care Connection, which have the majority of the service resources.

I'd say it's just those additional resources that have to be added.

Yeah.

Um, I am a licensed administrator in long-term care, and this would be great for all of us as administrators to know about the platform coming.

So is there plan to get it out further or communicating?

Yeah, I again it will be disseminated to the boards, such as yours, and then we also will be disseminating to professional associations because if you're a certified financial planner or you're somehow in finance, then your professional association is going to be advised about the resource and and they're asked to, but we can't dictate that they send it to their membership.

So same for your professional association.

So we've started identifying all those different groups so they can send it out to their constituents.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh David Tills Award for the issue you mentioned at the beginning where uh residents would go into the hospital or rehab and then lose their residence.

Uh so this would guarantee them residence when they come out.

Would it guarantee them the same residence they had prior or just a residence when they come out?

That's a great question.

Well, there's no guarantees, and the state cannot guarantee they'd have their housing.

It's my personal commitment to find out where the gap is.

It it who should be identifying their housing, make sure the payments are being made.

And so for those who can return to the same housing, it's inexcusable if they lost their housing because they write a physical check and they didn't go home to write the check, for example.

So we're we're identifying in the chain where that responsibility should lay.

It's unlikely it will be picked up by a government entity, probably be the hospital or nonprofit social worker, possibly, but that would take responsibility to make sure that the person can return.

If there's a change in health condition, they're not able to return home.

The ADSC already has a pilot program underway, which is and similar to Nevada Senior Services House to Home Program, but ADST has a program called FOCUS, which is to assist the person to get into apply for and qualify for housing that would be of a different type.

It's much more streamlined if the person is in services.

If they're receiving a Medicaid waiver or they have a disability and they're already receiving services, they have a case manager.

So that makes all of that placement easier.

It's the people who aren't in services and or the hospital doesn't contact the case management in a timely way to tell them in two hours he is discharged and now he's in a wheelchair and he can't go back.

So there's just uh some fine-tuning.

Um, but I think to to if that answers your question, part of it is they're just identifying the flow and finding out who will voluntarily take responsibility for making sure that this happens.

Yes, it it does answer the question because depending on the issues of the person, uh, how comfortable would they feel not going back to where they had been for an extended time?

Uh you put them in a new area or a new residence or something, they're not comfortable, they don't know where they are, that there are other issues.

So I was just wondering if they would hold where they were, but they guarantee them someplace.

Again, there's no guarantees.

The goal is that the person would not become unhoused just because they went in the hospital.

That's the goal.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Um hi, Linda Young Lord Five.

I'd like to uh ask a couple two different questions.

Uh one question, and thank you by the way for the presentation.

Very informative.

Um I work with uh some of neighborhood um organizations, uh, community neighborhood support groups, and this kind of information, of course, is important.

How is it connected for those people with visual impairment and those people with hearing impairment in terms of sign language assistance as well as for the visually impaired in terms of braille uh materials?

Shauna Brennan for the record.

Thank you for the question.

The as a matter of fact, the requirements of medical facilities has changed this year in 2025 to require them to offer um, it's this is both a federal and a state level to offer direct and immediate appropriate assistance for the site and hearing impaired, and part of that um does allow them to use technology if the person is able to do the technology, but then also we have other language requirements in addition to the visual and hearing impairment.

So I don't, I'm not confident it's been fully implemented yet, but your individuals do have greater rights now after 2025 than they previously had.

So they're welcome to contact my office.

This does happen.

Someone's in the hospital, they're not understanding the consequences of their treatment.

They cannot give informed consent, which the doctor cannot proceed.

And so if appropriate, you know, we can be contacted and and speak to the hospital or medical facility, let them know that is their legal obligation, and if they have to pay someone to be a translator, they have to do so.

I find it's not at the top of their priority list, but I'm happy to come and advocate also again, adult protective services available for that because again, in order to give informed consent, you have to understand.

Thank you for that, because many of your um dis disabled um, even youth and adults and senior adults are often not great advocates to go into big um facilities or big meetings and make sure that they are getting the kind of communication support so that they understand literally what's going on.

So thank you for that.

Yeah, Sean O'Brennan for the record.

And they can't exactly communicate that they don't understand.

They don't to your point.

Thank you.

And just uh just aside to that, uh, for organizations and community groups that would want to uh support this beautiful effort that you have.

Are there any subgrants to groups?

For example, you mentioned about websites, um, having organizations be able to find information and complete information for their own self-advocacy, but maybe they don't have a website or don't have community communications connected to the whole setup for uh technology.

Um, is there any subgrants that you know of to help outside neighborhood organizations acquire some of those resources that they can better communicate with their members?

Shauna Brennan for the record, thank you so much for that question.

I've just put up my phone number.

I think I would have to look into that and get back to you.

When the grants go out, there's a certain time period to respond.

So I think I can confidently say yes, there are technical assistance grants.

Um, how much they are when they become available and the eligibility, I can't address that at this time.

Thank you.

Uh Charles Lee Award 5.

When a person is discharged and they have nowhere to go, who should they contact?

If they don't have a home to go back to Yeah, Shauna Brennan for the record.

I believe that the shelters are accepting some of the people, but if their condition is of such a nature or their medication or their diagnosis, then they will not be accepted in the shelters.

This is part of the gap that we're experiencing.

So at this time, um, I don't have a lot to offer you.

I think the social workers in the facility are the best ones to help you with that to see who has beds at that time who might be able to take them.

One of the things that's missing is a kind of a triage trauma center to process the people at first to then put them in the right placement.

So this is a gap that has been identified.

And who will be the right service providers and community partners to fill that gap is the next step, and we're gonna have a meeting about that.

Uh Nicole Graham again with ward one.

Uh uh picking up what Charles was saying, um, have you talked of other collaborations?

Um, I was recently on a training with age-friendly uh, I think it was age-friendly the hospital measures.

Is that something or other collaborations, organizations you guys are working with to capture that gap?

Shauna Brennan for the record, thank you for that question.

Right now, we were running the data analysis.

I've been in the position just over a year just to identify um what were the systemic problems, and now we're reaching out to form those associations.

So I would appreciate any connections or referrals that you could make, and so we're starting to gain that um relationship building at this time.

Uh yeah, uh Nicole Graham again, ward one.

I definitely can't.

It was with dementia-friendly Nevada, uh, Dr.

Sue.

So I will send you her contact.

Thank you.

Chair O'Reilly Cameron, on the AB 461.

I know we on the Commission on Aging uh Housing Legislation, it was brought up on several occasions about how those resources were going to be formed.

In other words, we know we have the 211, the Nevada Care Connection, and as we're looking outside of it, kind of like what you two were just discussing.

Um, how far overreach are we looking to go with that?

And in terms of what they had discussed, which I thought was great, was making sure best practices behind each one of these organizations, because I guess some of the people that brought it up had had some bad experience with various ones, and uh we're just concerned about the vetting of resources when we start reaching further and wider.

So, what kind of vetting practices were there be?

Shauna Brennan for the record, thank you for that question.

One of the challenges for a government body, including yourselves, is that we can't really endorse a private company or business or put one ahead of the other.

So I it's my understanding, and the resources I've plugged in are licensing bureaus and professional associations.

So the professional associations, for example, of the Nevada Bar, we have to be licensed, bonded insured and be in good standing.

So that's the direction that we went at this time.

I think in the future, if there was maybe a link to a Google review or Yelp or some other way to gauge if they were actually doing a good job, that might be something to be considered in the future.

That is not being considered at this time.

And it's a bigger issue because we find, say, with hospice, hospices are licensing for 50 or less, so they don't have to do the federal reporting, but they own seven of them.

So they're definitely have more than 50.

And we understand that, and so we're starting to look at ways to improve enforcement of reporting that already exists, but they're using ethical means to avoid the reporting.

So I will make a note of that to the work group.

Um, I think at this time that will just be linked to licensed bonded insured, and at least that's one level of protection.

Chair O'Reilly Cameron, I kind of knew that, but I wanted to get the information for the record.

And uh when it's on the website, will we make sure that we say it as such, just so that people uh, you know, our constituents, et cetera, that are using the website know that they might want to do maybe further research to see if I'm making sense.

In other words, because you know me.

I'm I'm very concerned with some of the different companies, and you brought up the hospice.

I get the the complaints all the time, uh, and there are other types, and so the concern would be to the public.

What I see a lot of times, especially with our older adults, is if it's on that website, it must be good.

And so I wanna be kind of mindfully aware, and I don't know what type of verbiage could even be put on there legally, but just you know that this is like you said, it's just the basics, it's the license bonded, you know, insured, whatever have you, so that they know to go a little deeper, maybe the caregivers, et cetera, and not just consider that the end all be all.

Because I think that's where we may get uh some challenges.

I see you shaking your head.

So those of us in the field, we hear this all the time, so we're just obviously hoping if we can't expand it right away, which is completely understandable.

We're just happy to have this passed in the first place, just to make sure that we're helping them though, even if that's just education on all of our parts while we're out there.

Shauna Brennan for the record, thank you for the question.

There is a good example with hospice that um additional hospice rights were passed this year by the Nevada legislature.

That became necessitated because people were not having their rights protected while they were in hospice care.

And so that's an example.

If the family knew or their supports knew ahead of time the 17 things to expect, then we might not have had to pass an actual law that says here's the 17 things that you're entitled to.

So uh I will take that back to the work group.

I think that's a great idea.

Right now, I understand it's primarily resource database, um, and I would welcome and invite any um suggestions and put different different trades, different fields, different boards.

We feel like this is important content.

I believe that that would be entertained.

So we would welcome that.

Thank you.

Does anyone have any other questions for our speaker today?

Just one quick question, and this may not be pertinent to we're be sure and state your name for the record.

I'm sorry.

Sorry, thank you.

Thank you.

Uh Linda Young Ward 5.

Thank you.

Um, this may not be pertinent to your area, but um 60 minutes, a whole big thing about grandparents' rights where grandparents were left out of the lives of their grandchildren and had concerns about their care and their emotional support and just kind of abuse concerns in general.

Um it's kind of growing to some extent as children and others move across different states and internationally.

Is that anything you guys do or refer people to?

Because I hear often, not often, but I hear enough where our grandparents are concerned about what's going on with their grandchildren, and they're left out, and they feel that there ought to be some kind of connection that they can have to support those children, but they don't know where to go or what to do.

Shauna Brennan for the record, thank you for that question.

The classification of grandparents that we're currently dealing with are grandparents who are raising their grandchildren.

And so we provide additional resources and services to the grandparent who's taken on the responsibility of raising the grandchildren.

And um beyond that, I think it becomes more of a civil right, which they would have to address with an attorney to try to access the children.

The law would be the law where the children reside.

So that's always a challenge, especially if they're out of country.

It is not the law where the grandparent resides.

We're focusing on prevention and protection of the older person.

Where what you're talking about is a right that's a proactive right.

And so that's an area I think that other resources like AARP have more to offer.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

Thank you so much for taking the time to come down and speak to the board.

And also I would like to remind each and every one of us and those who may be listening to the recording that this will be posted on the city's YouTube channel.

And just have we've had so many amazing speakers as this one today, uh, that that is a great resource to have your seniors, your associations, whatever have you review so that they can get the information and then they know how to look further.

So just a quick reminder on that note.

Thank you once again, Shauna, for coming in.

We greatly appreciate your time today.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Item number six report by Gregory Gray, management analyst one regarding senior issues received by the Department of Neighborhood Services, all wards.

And uh Gregagay's absence, uh, I'm um Olga Flowers Community Program Technician.

Uh I have no uh senior issues to report for the Department of Neighborhood Services.

Thank you.

Item number seven, report by board members regarding senior issues and events within their council wards and at large, all wards.

And as always, want to be respectful of time.

We're doing a little better today, but we want to be respectful of time, just in case, because I know there's a lot of issues.

And first up, we have ward one, Nicole Graham, Vice Chair.

Hello, Nicole Graham Ward One.

Uh, just a few highlights for Word One that I've seen.

Um, excited for uh not specifically, but throughout there is a bunch of three square senior community for outreach of food.

Um I know there's a couple throughout uh the month of December.

Um I know one will be happening at the Clark County uh library, so definitely look for those.

Uh we also uh starting for January and February, uh neighborhood services and the reach are doing an outside uh on-site uh community outreach for the community that will be taking place at Lumina.

Um it will be from 10 a.m.

to one on the 15th and 16th of January.

Um so looking forward to that.

And that's it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And wards two and three are absent today.

So next we have word four, David Tilser.

Uh David Till's award for uh I've been spending a lot of time talking to the the people in in my ward.

Uh as everyone knows, I I do live in Sun City, so I speak to those people more often than uh any place else.

Uh a few things I just like to mention.

Uh this week was considered older driver safety awareness week.

And what that is is uh some driving schools got together because they feel there are issues with seniors that are driving.

They're considering seniors 65 and over.

And what many of these uh driving schools are offering, uh they say things change when you hit certain ages and you may not realize it.

Uh people in their 60s and 70s and 80s are taking different medications than they were taking in their 30s and 40s.

That may affect their driving uh issues.

Uh their reflexes have changed, the timing may be adjusted.

Uh the hearing and vision issues may become more pronounced than they were years ago.

So a few of these driving schools are actually offering uh they're calling it behind the wheel issues to just see how these people are doing.

And and some of them are offering this, uh, some at no charge, some at minimal charges.

Uh so uh that's one to look in.

It's this week, but I'm sure at any point, if anybody feels they or a spouse or or a friend needs some help with that, I'm sure that's available.

Uh I've been getting notices about senior scams through Medicare and Medicaid.

Uh people are looking at their summary notices, and they're getting charges of um materials and services that they did not get.

And at some point down the road, they are gonna be billed for this because it will say it's not covered.

So uh I've been encouraging everybody when they get their monthly summaries from Medicare, Medicaid, to just make sure there's nothing on there that they didn't that they didn't get.

Uh and speaking with some Metro uh people that do show an extra interest in the senior community, they're saying that they're noticing that the the older adults that are living in senior communities are getting tapped more and they're targeted more by all of these different phantom billings because uh it's easy to do it when everybody in a development is getting this the same kind of overcharges.

Uh so they should just check monthly uh to make sure whatever they're getting is what they have been actually receiving.

Uh there have been uh a lot of scams.

Uh I know of several also in Sun City.

Uh and most of them have been uh people ringing the doorbells saying they're there to repair the garage door.

They know the garage doors uh not working properly.

Uh that gets them into the garage in the house.

They're also uh people saying that that they're from the water district and offering and other people offering to help them set up living trusts.

All of these are scams if they come to the door.

So again, please monitor that and uh don't listen to anybody unless you have actually contacted them.

Uh on the brighter side.

Uh a few nights ago, Sun City had actually on December 1st, their holiday outdoor concert.

Uh it was excellent.

It was attended by about 250 people, hot chocolate, hot coffee, cookies.

Uh just like they had the cookies were excellent.

Uh Sun City also had Thanksgiving dinners for those that had no place to go.

Uh they had two seatings on Thanksgiving, and both were sold out.

And everybody I spoke to that went to it said it was wonderful and and they really enjoyed it.

Um the Sun City restaurants, I believe at least one, possibly two, are having Christmas Eve dinners for those that want.

Uh one of them I know is sold out.

They're thinking about adding the second restaurant, and there's also a New Year's Eve party that has been sold out.

It was sold out in two days of them advertising it.

So these people still want to go out and enjoy and celebrate.

So that's that's a really good thing.

Uh and then finally on Saturday, November 15th, Sun City had uh their their annual semi-annual shredding sponsored by our councilwoman uh Polanski.

Uh if you remember, it was a Saturday, it poured that day.

And and I went and there was the councilwoman, no umbrella, just a little rain jacket and a hat, and she was grabbing all of the shredding out of the cars and putting into the trucks.

And I looked at her and I said, Councilwoman, what are you doing?

She goes, I love doing this.

Uh so I mean, I I love working with her.

She enjoys what she does.

And uh that's it.

I'm gonna keep checking with people at living in Sun City, it's easy to find out the issues because they're all around me.

Uh so I will continue to do it, and uh I'll bring all the good news and the issues that need to be looked into uh to the board.

Thank you.

Thank you, David.

And I'm Chair Rear Cameron, also worked for, and it has been nothing but an absolute pleasure to have someone actually living in Sun City.

I am not in Sun City, I'm just outside of it, so it of course it makes it so much better, and we can work together, and I love it because I get to hear more about what's going on with all the seniors.

And I too have been hearing about all of the scams, and wanted to address also with the explanation of benefits for your health care and everything coming in when there's a service not being done for the record if anyone's listening and for if you get any, I know um it it happens all across the board in all wards.

Make sure that they're turning it in.

Turn it in, because there are a lot of services that are billed that are not done, unfortunately, and that's only gonna help people like Shauna to do her job so much better, and all of us when we're out there.

So that's the first line of defense that they need to do is make sure they're turning it into uh whatever their insurance is, whether that's um you know, private Medicare, Medicaid, so that we can get a handle on that.

Also, I've been getting the complaints about the people trying to do the living trusts and wills and POAs for eons.

I mean, it's been going on for a very long time.

Um, and there's even been companies that have turned into the Secretary of State because they weren't even um licensed to be doing it.

They were licensed to do the preparation of the documents, but not to advise or do anything else.

In other words, you sit down in front of them, they plug in the information that you've already made the decision of.

They do not help you make decisions because they are not licensed to do so.

And I know the Secretary of State has been uh cracking down on that a little bit and really working with the doc prep companies.

Um, not all doc prep companies are doing it, so this has nothing to do with them as a whole, just to be mindful of what their position is and what they are and aren't allowed to do, because that will help because think of it this way if they're preparing the documents and you're getting advice from somebody that doesn't really truly know, maybe their knowledge is more in a California, whatever have you, then they leave town and nothing happens to you or the person that it was written up on, then we don't know about it until they're already gone, because it doesn't mean people are gonna pass away right away.

So unfortunately, it's a very lucrative business for companies that have done it in the heavily senior populated areas.

So just be mindful.

Not everybody is, and you definitely need to get it done.

I gotta put that plug in, right?

And also the complaints, uh, one of the reasons I work so closely with Shauna at times is because I hear the complaints with the HOAs.

Uh, there's a lot of different rules in the HOAs, but then there's a lot of things where there will be changes.

And one of the things I want to say about that is if you're living in a larger HOA community, what you'll want to do is be mindful of who you're voting in to the board.

Make sure the board is active and making sure that your directors are doing exactly what they're supposed to and in the best interest, because you're literally paying for that.

You're literally paying for it.

And I don't just hear that, and that's not a Sun City thing, that is literally all across the valley.

So you want to be mindful of that.

Um, and definitely continue to get your information into people like Shauna so that she can keep making a record of it and to all of us because then we can pass it along to her.

Um, then the other thing is Metro.

So at some of the events that I go to quite often, I'm hearing a lot of Metro.

They're pulling me aside and talking to me about how they see all the red flags when they go to a home of the elder abuse, but there's nothing that can be done because once again, the person, I know I've said this before, the person has to actually say that it is indeed happening.

That's the way it works in our state of Nevada.

So I wanted to make sure that goes on record again.

Uh so it's even a problem for Metro.

So understand if you know you you're telling APS or Metro or whoever that they have certain guidelines that they have to go by.

So it gets very tricky, very tricky, and I know a lot of that is gonna be addressed again very soon because the elder abuse is running rampant, it really is.

Uh as far as events and things, I encourage everyone to sign up for the Ward 4 newsletter so that you can find about find out about things like the shredding.

I know that's a Sun City thing, but uh some of the things are involving people outside of Sun City, so you want to make sure that you're getting that information as well.

Not everyone can go to the things in Sun City.

Um that's an exclusive community, so you'll just want to make sure you get that newsletter so you'll know exactly what's going on, especially with the holidays.

And I will leave it there so I don't take too long.

And next we have ward five, Charles Lee.

Hi, Charles Lee Warfare.

If everyone would download the app Ways, and um they kind of help you maneuver around town better.

So it would make your you know life a little easier traveling.

So that's it for me.

Thank you.

And also word five, we have Linda Young.

Thank you.

Uh I have nothing to report at this time.

Thank you.

And ward six, we have Caroline Mosdean.

Thank you, Chairman.

Uh the only things I'd like to say, first of all, is I hope everyone had a happy and healthy Thanksgiving for everyone here and everyone listening, and that they're preparing for uh again healthy, happy, safe uh holidays as they come about.

Um I would like to uh just reiterate what uh Deanne had mentioned about the newsletter.

There's not only the newsletter for each ward, so uh everyone listening should try to remember.

Sign up for as many of the newsletters, and also uh the city of Las Vegas has a more general one.

There's a myriad of programs you can only imagine for the holidays.

I don't want to mention them all.

The only two I'm going to mention though are because they are coming right up, they're right upon us.

Um, and the first one is Tamales and Mariachi Festival.

It's on December 6th, and it's right here at the Las Vegas Civic Civic Center, and it's uh 10 to 4.

So that is just this weekend that's coming up, and the same day on December 6th.

If you're out and about for part of the day and want to move on, um, there's the Cowboy Christmas and classic car show, which is going to be at uh Floyd Land Park at Thule Springs.

But again, please refer to these.

There are newsletters, there are flyers around every one of our wonderful uh council people uh put out a lot of information.

So please take advantage of that uh for this month and for months to come.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yes, there's a plethora of events right now, and also it just reminded me for the record, Chair Rear Cameron.

We also have a senior newsletter with the city of Las Vegas, so you want to get signed up for that too, so you can see you may want to be active and go to another board's events, and so you'll be able to see a lot of the things there too, and invaluable information.

And now we have item number seven report excuse me, item number eight discussion regarding next steps and future topics of the senior citizen advisory board, all words.

I know we have a running list that we've been kind of doing our check marks with speakers to get information, but does anyone have any other things you'd like to discuss as a board?

Uh David Tills Award 4.

I I just for the record, uh what I was speaking about with all the Medicare and all those frauds.

I was able to get a phone number.

If everybody gets exhausted trying to get through to Medicare and Medicaid, uh I was given the phone number for the Health and Human Services fraud line.

Uh it's an 800 number, it's 1800 447 847.

That's 1800 447-847.

And I actually called it, and it's fairly easy to get through to, and it's a national fraud line, and hopefully they can help you.

So I just wanted that on there for the record.

Thank you.

Thank you, David.

That is valuable, very, very valuable because yes, you can get exhausted going through prompts.

Thank you.

Are there any other uh future steps or future meeting topics that anybody would like to see covered that we don't already have on our list?

Okay, we don't have any item number nine, citizens participation.

Public comment during this portion of the agenda must be limited to matters within the jurisdiction of the board.

No subject may be acted upon by the board unless that subject is on the agenda and is scheduled for action.

If you wish to be heard, come forward and give your name for the record.

The amount of discussion on any single subject as well as the amount of time any single speaker is allowed, may be limited.

Seeing and hearing none.

We are now adjourned.

Our next meeting is uh January 2nd at 1 p.m.

Right here.

Is it second or third?

Yeah, the first Thursday.

No, no.

It is.

Oh, okay.

So it is the second Thursday.

I'm sorry.

See, now I have my dates mixed up.

You can tell it's the holidays.

So our next meeting will be on the second Thursday rather than the first Thursday of the month due to the holiday.

And that will be at 1 p.m.

right here in the Civic Center building, second floor, building A.