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Leesburg Compensation Plan Board Meeting - October 23, 2026

Town Council & Commissions — Friday, October 23, 2026
BodyLeesburg, Virginia
SessionTown Council & Commissions
DateFriday, October 23, 2026
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Speaker 1

0:02

Compensation plan board meeting to order.

0:06

First item is approval of the minutes of the May 19, 2026 to vote compensation plan board meeting.

0:17

So

Speaker 2

0:18

move.

0:19

Second, second.

Unassigned speaker

0:20

All

Speaker 1

0:21

is we'll move to items for discussion.

0:28

And I think the first item is the fiduciary training.

Speaker 3

0:34

That's correct.

0:35

I'm really pleased to bring to you Andy Larson.

0:37

And Mike Sullivan from the retirement learning center.

0:42

And Andy, we've been working with Andy for about six or seven years.

0:46

He helps conduct fiduciary training.

0:48

When it comes to fiduciary topics, Andy has seen it all.

0:52

So we thought, given that the committee's still relatively new, I mean we've talked about having fiduciary training training.

0:58

It's a great um it's great to highlight in the minutes that we've heard from an expert on some of the hot issues of what's going on.

1:06

And with that, Andy, I'll turn it over to

Unassigned speaker

1:09

you.

Speaker 4

1:09

Well, thank you, Mike.

1:10

Appreciate the uh chance to chat with you about uh fiduciary issues.

1:16

And before I begin, just to be real clear, um, please don't don't be shy about asking questions.

Speaker 5

1:25

Um,

Speaker 4

1:26

I I don't have any prepared slides.

1:29

I'm not gonna read slides uh to the group.

1:32

Uh I found when I tried that, especially this time of day, I put people to sleep.

1:37

So I'd rather just just chat with you.

1:40

And if you all have questions or want to challenge, please uh do so.

1:45

But again, I think that this is an important topic,

Unassigned speaker

1:49

and

Speaker 4

1:49

there's a lot of nuance here, and when a speaker is just doing all the speaking, sometimes we miss the nuance.

1:58

So with that said, I'm gonna start with uh kind of the the cornerstone of our responsibility as a as a plan committee and what those responsibilities are.

Unassigned speaker

2:11

They were talk about some issues relating, for example, to uh cyber security, some issues relating to uh to data, and then we'll see where the group wants to uh take it from uh from there.

Speaker 4

2:24

Uh you operate under essentially four uh requirements, and these come by different names uh based on the context, but really the first one is what I call the best interest the best interest requirement.

2:42

Uh you have an obligation to operate this plan in the best interests of the plan participants.

2:51

That's job one.

2:53

And I I saw something really poignant uh number of years ago when I first started doing uh this kind of training back in the uh probably early 1990s.

3:04

I was at uh on site with uh an organization,

Unassigned speaker

3:08

and

Speaker 4

3:08

in the meeting room they had pictures uh around the room of uh of employees, and I asked for these like employees of the year or whatever.

3:17

No, they're just sweet, we just switch them out.

3:19

We put them up because we want the committee to remember that's what we're focused

Unassigned speaker

3:25

on

Speaker 4

3:25

is the participants, and I thought that was kind of neat.

3:29

So uh again, the first requirement best interest, operating the plan in the best interests of the participants.

3:36

Secondly, the expert rule, and this as the name implies your actions will be held to an expert standard.

Unassigned speaker

3:48

Now

Speaker 4

3:48

the good news is you don't have to be experts as long as you know what you don't know, and you bring in an applicable expert when you're in an area that you're not sure

Unassigned speaker

4:01

about.

Speaker 4

4:02

Thirdly, there's the plan document rule, which uh which means that you uh will operate the plan

Unassigned speaker

4:08

in

Speaker 4

4:08

accordance with the plan document and you'll keep it up to date.

4:12

Sounds pretty simple.

4:14

Might be more to it than we think, so we'll come back to that in a minute.

4:18

Lastly, the diversification rule, uh, which uh states that uh you all make available to your participants a diverse uh package of investment options that uh from which they can make elections and then you monitor those and replace uh poor performing funds.

4:36

So let's go back through these diversification rules nowadays.

4:39

Most committees do very, very well with uh diversifying with their plan assets.

4:45

Uh moving up the ladder, the plan document rule.

4:48

Frankly, most committees do an awful job with the plan document.

4:53

Well, wait a minute.

Unassigned speaker

4:54

What

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Investment Portfolio Management█████████████████████████████████████████████57%
Personnel Matters██████████████████████28%
Pending Litigation████5%
Retirement Income Planning████5%
Public Engagement███4%
Procedural█1%
Summary of Proceedings

Leesburg Compensation Plan Board Meeting - October 23, 2026

The Compensation Plan Board of Leesburg, Virginia met on October 23, 2026 to approve previous meeting minutes, receive fiduciary training, review plan performance, and approve several fund changes and a new retirement income option.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of Minutes: The board unanimously approved the minutes of the May 19, 2026 Compensation Plan Board meeting.

Discussion Items

  • Fiduciary Training: Andy Larson and Mike Sullivan from the Retirement Learning Center presented on fiduciary responsibilities, including the four core rules (best interest, expert rule, plan document rule, diversification rule). They emphasized the importance of documenting decisions (what and why), reviewing plan documents every 2-3 years, cybersecurity and vendor contract reviews, data privacy (including data sales by vendors), evaluating managed accounts (fees, data points, algorithms, investments), monitoring target-date funds (indirect fees, participant misconceptions), and fiduciary liability insurance. The presenters noted that participant complaints are a common trigger for lawsuits and that good documentation is the best defense.
  • Plan Performance Report: Total plan assets as of June 2026 were $40.2 million, up from $37.2 million at the end of March 2026, the highest since moving to Nationwide in 2024. Target-date funds comprise 40% of plan assets ($16.1 million), domestic equity 33.3% ($13.4 million), and stable value 13% ($5.2 million). The top four funds account for over 40% of assets.
  • Fund Change - BlackRock Equity Dividend Fund: The board discussed replacing the BlackRock Equity Dividend Fund (large-cap value) with the Columbia Dividend Income Fund due to the departure of the entire investment team and analyst support. The Columbia fund has a lower expense ratio (0.40% vs. current 0.54%) and similar performance. The change affects 95 participants (page 95 of the report). The motion passed unanimously.
  • Fund Change - EuroPacific Growth Fund: The board discussed replacing the EuroPacific Growth Fund (international) with the Victory Pioneer International Equity Fund after the fund had been on the watch list for over a year due to poor risk-return profile (bottom-right quadrant: higher volatility, lower returns). The Victory fund has lower expenses (0.39% after rebate vs. 0.74%), better long-term performance, and a more concentrated portfolio (64 vs. 372 holdings). The motion passed unanimously.
  • CIT Conversion: The board approved converting mutual fund versions of American Century and Wasatch funds to collective investment trusts (CITs) to lower participant costs. The Allspring CIT was removed from consideration as its mutual fund class was already cheaper.
  • Retirement Income Builder (RIB) Option: The board discussed adding a guaranteed lifetime income option from State Street, designed specifically for governmental entities. Key features: income begins building at age 47, payouts start at age 65, with a high-water mark mechanism locking in gains quarterly. Fees are 9 basis points during accumulation and 20 basis points during income building/withdrawal. Loans are not permitted within the RIB, but participants can keep other assets for loans. Spousal survivor options are available (irrevocable election). The option is portable to other plans offering the same product. The board approved adding the RIB option, with the launch to align with the fund changes (targeting December 2026).

Key Outcomes

  • Approved Minutes of the May 19, 2026 meeting.
  • Approved Fund Change: BlackRock Equity Dividend Fund to Columbia Dividend Income Fund (effective November/December 2026).
  • Approved Fund Change: EuroPacific Growth Fund to Victory Pioneer International Equity Fund.
  • Approved CIT Conversions: American Century and Wasatch mutual funds to CIT versions.
  • Approved New Option: Retirement Income Builder (RIB) added to the plan as a target-date-like investment option.
  • Next Steps: Participant communications will be sent at least 30 days prior to changes (targeting November 2026 letters for December changes). Education workshops will be scheduled to inform employees about changes and the new RIB option. The next meeting will include a one-year participant engagement report.

Meeting Transcript

Compensation plan board meeting to order. First item is approval of the minutes of the May 19, 2026 to vote compensation plan board meeting. So move. Second, second. All is we'll move to items for discussion. And I think the first item is the fiduciary training. That's correct. I'm really pleased to bring to you Andy Larson. And Mike Sullivan from the retirement learning center. And Andy, we've been working with Andy for about six or seven years. He helps conduct fiduciary training. When it comes to fiduciary topics, Andy has seen it all. So we thought, given that the committee's still relatively new, I mean we've talked about having fiduciary training training. It's a great um it's great to highlight in the minutes that we've heard from an expert on some of the hot issues of what's going on. And with that, Andy, I'll turn it over to you. Well, thank you, Mike. Appreciate the uh chance to chat with you about uh fiduciary issues. And before I begin, just to be real clear, um, please don't don't be shy about asking questions. Um, I I don't have any prepared slides. I'm not gonna read slides uh to the group. Uh I found when I tried that, especially this time of day, I put people to sleep. So I'd rather just just chat with you. And if you all have questions or want to challenge, please uh do so. But again, I think that this is an important topic, and there's a lot of nuance here, and when a speaker is just doing all the speaking, sometimes we miss the nuance. So with that said, I'm gonna start with uh kind of the the cornerstone of our responsibility as a as a plan committee and what those responsibilities are. They were talk about some issues relating, for example, to uh cyber security, some issues relating to uh to data, and then we'll see where the group wants to uh take it from uh from there. Uh you operate under essentially four uh requirements, and these come by different names uh based on the context, but really the first one is what I call the best interest the best interest requirement. Uh you have an obligation to operate this plan in the best interests of the plan participants. That's job one. And I I saw something really poignant uh number of years ago when I first started doing uh this kind of training back in the uh probably early 1990s. I was at uh on site with uh an organization, and in the meeting room they had pictures uh around the room of uh of employees, and I asked for these like employees of the year or whatever. No, they're just sweet, we just switch them out. We put them up because we want the committee to remember that's what we're focused on is the participants, and I thought that was kind of neat. So uh again, the first requirement best interest, operating the plan in the best interests of the participants. Secondly, the expert rule, and this as the name implies your actions will be held to an expert standard. Now the good news is you don't have to be experts as long as you know what you don't know, and you bring in an applicable expert when you're in an area that you're not sure about. Thirdly, there's the plan document rule, which uh which means that you uh will operate the plan in

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