But I'd like to welcome everybody here.

It is uh December 2nd, 2025.

And uh we usually start this meeting up with an opening prayer, and I ask Chris if he would offer that.

Our dear gracious heavenly father, we come before the this beautiful evening to express our gratitude.

We're thankful for the opportunity to meet together today as residents and as a city council to discuss the matters before the city this evening.

We ask High Spirit to be upon us and help us in all that we do, and that we uh may express the best desires that we have for this wonderful city, and that we may continue to move forward.

And this we pray in my son Jesus Christ.

Thank you, Chris.

Okay.

Uh item two on our agenda is in regards to the park tech uh park tax grant recipients.

We're gonna have the presentations tonight.

We do have eight of these, so we've got quite a few.

Um I suspect they're all here tonight.

I guess we'll find out.

Item uh we'll start with item 2.1.

This is just for kids of Utah County.

And uh so come on up and present.

Michelle.

How are you guys all today?

Good evening.

Hi, how are you guys all doing?

So um, it is very humbly that I come to this meeting today because we were allotted a very large sum of money for the park rent tax this that we're reporting on.

And in my own sincerest and honest opinion.

Next, we built the Curtis Center, and that was major.

And when we got that finished, there were some deficits, and that's what we addressed with this.

I can make sure my phone's turned off.

Um those deficits included stage and sound, and those are some of the things that we really, really, really wanted to have be wonderful.

Do we have our PowerPoint so we can show you?

Okay.

So anyway, we we felt like we wanted to do our share, and so we all whenever we present to any of our grants, we always say we'll like to take our part.

So we did a quarter of 25% of the funds that we did for this.

So we um received $92,000, almost $93,000, and we paid $30,000 for the project.

So we just want you to know that our heart and soul was in there too.

Man, I really like a lot of these people here that I don't see very often.

I've lived in Lee Hand forever.

Okay, so let me just tell you, and I love Lee High, and I love the Curtis Center.

Thank you guys so much.

So I'm gonna tell you just a little bit about our we have the hives program that meets here at the Curtis Center, and this is our group, and you just kind of see these are some of our people and some of the things that we're doing.

We love to socialize and work and we do vocation.

And next, I don't how much time do we have?

Like two minutes.

Uh I can't remember.

Jason, how long were we going to limit each other?

Oh, well, just three to five.

Three to five.

Okay.

So, and then we have athletics for our individuals.

We opened up ours just for kids.

It's JFK Athletics, and that opened a basketball yesterday, and there were 30 spots, and they were gone yesterday.

How do you like that?

So people love what we're doing with the athletics, and that's fun.

And I know this is a little bit different than that.

But so here's a little bit of like we have the police officers come for our bowling and the firefighters, and there's I the bottom pictures of the tournament.

Next.

Thank you.

And then this is our adaptive basketball uh final event.

And this was with the Lehigh High School championship team.

And they came over and played basketball with us, and they showed off a little bit, but then they pretended like they weren't very good, and we showed off, and it was pretty good.

They kind of acted like anyway.

So that's been a we do 30 individuals and we uh we go ahead with special because as well.

Okay, we gotta just keep moving along because we really want to show you what we bought.

And then the really fun thing when you do a larger grant with you guys with the parks, you make us think about things that maybe we wouldn't otherwise think about.

We had 1,376.66 volunteer hours in that year for the parks grant, which equated to 43,000.

And I know you want to kind of see, you know, what kind of volunteerism, what kind of money there's an equation that goes into that.

That was really, really fun for us to figure out.

Like to think, wow, look at what we would have been able to, you know, what people have given to us with volunteerism.

So we've got piano players, singers, dancers, we have well in the arts, a lot of different people that come in and help us teach classes.

Next.

And then this is our Wizard of Oz picture.

So we did the Wizard of Oz, and that was the big production that went with what we purchased.

And I've got a program.

I'm gonna let you take one and pass.

We wanted to make it special.

It's upside down on the other side.

So you'll just have to kind of flip it.

We didn't flip it the right way.

So these are this is our cast.

How do you feel about it?

Just flip this way, top to bottom.

Next.

And this is the really fun thing.

The only drawback about what we've done here is you see this this the backdrop.

That's the those are the digital backdrops.

And this has been so wonderful for our people.

I cannot tell you.

Oh my gosh, it's just so fun.

So we have a back projections projector that's behind the screen.

And then this is a big and the Curtis Center's got a pretty big opening.

Well, you can see this is the biggest screen that we could buy with the back projection that we could use with the distance that we had to work with.

We wished it filled the whole thing, but these are so fun.

And so we bought the back projection screen, we bought the uh the projector at the screen, and then we um increased the sound in our gym.

If you were there before, it was awful.

We had a 69% increase in our volume, like we were having so much echoing, and we got pull sound to help us, and you guys all helped us with all of this is what made our production so much better.

They can when they're playing basketball in there, they can hear the microphone.

It was awful.

Remember the groundbreaking and I mean the ribbon cutting?

And then the next thing we did, we high we paid for sound system in our brand new building.

So anyway, you just is the way it goes, they told me.

I think that's dumb.

Okay, next.

Why would you get something brand new?

Okay, one of these has a which one has a video stuff?

This one?

The video wasn't able to work.

Oh, the video can't work.

Oh, we're so sad.

Okay.

Well, anyway, it's just so these not only light up your life, but they like the you know, Oz laughs and hee-haws, and so they have the sound that goes with it.

They're so so fun.

And our people can act and be a part on the stage without worrying about tripping over things.

Next.

And this is a backdrop, so we're doing a Christmas program.

And that's gonna be Monday at 7 o'clock, and we invite you all to come, and I'm gonna run the invitations back.

I ended up writing in Stephanie's car and my they're in my car.

But we and if any of you would like to come, we'd love to have you.

It's extra special.

Um, they're doing talents, but see, we're using our backdrop for that as well.

So um, I just want to say, I think that's the last picture.

Oh no, we've got a picture of the baffles, so you can see that.

We feel like overwhelmingly blessed that we can offer the arts to these people.

If you came to our talent show, our Christmas program, one of the girls dances like this.

I mean, it's just it's not great, but it's special.

I mean, I don't know what else to say.

And we have baked and borrowed space since 2010.

And everybody's been so kind to us from Alpine, American Fork, all over the county, but it is so nice to be able to have our own place from the bottom of my heart.

I thank you because I worked on this for years, and I know that um it's just been great to have the relationship with the jazz, the junior jazz, and everything's working out great.

Thank you for the money.

This is the best money you've spent as far as the arts go.

This ground round, it really is.

I'm not getting.

And we we very we we accept it humbly because we really don't want you to give it to us.

I don't know if you know that.

I stand up here and think there's all these other people that need this more than we do, but anyway, we're very, very sincerely appreciative of it, and we've put it to really, really good work this time.

Thank you.

Thank you, Michelle.

Okay.

Excuse me.

Can you be excused?

Yes, excuse me.

Yes, of course.

No, this is like church.

You have to stay together.

We have a great big party at my house in an hour.

Okay.

Thank you.

Okay, item 2.2 is the Wasatch Contemporary Dance Company.

Um, do you have a record or would you like me to connect up?

Are you your own?

I have it ready to go if I then I can control it better myself, right?

Okay, okay.

Okay.

Give us your name, by the way, too.

So what was that?

Your name.

Oh, my name's Jessica Heaton.

Um for the record.

For the record.

My name is Jessica Heaton, and I am the executive director of Wasatch Contemporary Dance.

We are here to say thank you for the funding, which helped us do this project, which is called Intwine and was a kind of immersive site-specific uh contemporary dance performance here in Lehigh that we did in April.

We pride ourselves on bringing new perspectives to Lehigh.

So this here is an excerpt from our press release written by our artistic director.

Intwine is a rich selection of the ways we connect with one another and the unseen forces that shape our lives.

By placing the audience in the round, we invited them into a personal exchange with the movement, encouraging a unique experience and deeper connection with each performance.

So what we did here is we we strung together a bunch of kind of storytelling through dance that was connected through stories and just the way that we we connect as a community.

This prop that you see in these photos was actually used in the show.

Um and people sit in the round.

So it's there's not a ton of rentable theaters that are affordable and available in this area.

So we have um looked to non-conventional spaces for dance performances.

And it ends up being very transformational, very fun for people, and to be in proximity with dance in that way is really exciting.

Um this is just a one-minute video that I'm I'm hoping has sound.

Let's give it a try.

Maybe it won't.

Yeah, we'll sing.

Ready?

But you can see that the audience is seated in the round here, and there's actually different locations in the venue, which we moved people to throughout the evening.

Um, very fun for them to get to have different vantage points.

We even went on this outdoor patio here.

Um and so they stand, they sit, just the very act of moving around really helps them to engage with the performance in a new and different way, and really has it you know be very memorable for them.

Um different from just sitting in a you know theater seats and kind of watching afar off and feeling kind of adrift and you know, distant from the art.

So we use lots of props, like you can see here.

We use paper, we use this you know, stretchy fabric that you saw before too, and we really just like to get people involved in the art with us.

Um this was some of our feedback from um audience surveys that we always put out.

Um great show.

I wasn't sure at first about the venue, but I ended up loving the intimate space, beautiful choreography and dancers.

So you can see we're you know, we're appealing to an audience that maybe this is new for them.

They can be kind of confused about why are we doing dance in a wedding venue?

Um, but then they end up really loving and enjoying it and just being in that proximity with the dancers um ends up being really um impactful for them.

Um another viewer said, I loved the intimacy of the space.

It was refreshing because it was so close and the audience could see from all angles, it made me look at the movement material and quality differently.

Um so we really love um, you know, challenging people in this way and getting them to see art in a different way.

Um why why do we do this and why is it important for Lehigh City to can to continue to support these kinds of works.

Um a lot of people right now are studying loneliness.

Scholars say that being lonely is akin to 15 packs of six or 15 cigarettes a day in the effect that it can have on your health.

Um a colleague of ours um said recently if loneliness is a public health crisis, then art is part of the cure.

And that's what we're doing here together as arts organizations with Lehigh City, is you guys are investing in the unity of our of our city and helping us to be together more often to have our paradigms shifted in a way that helps our community to grow, to be innovative and to to kind of be collective, having everyone together.

Um some of our impact in this show included um because this is a very intimate space, and we have to put on several shows in one day just to jam pack as many people in there as we can.

So this was a 200 patron experience over a few different shows.

Um and we like that it's kind of a small experience like that.

It's not a 600-seat venue where it's very kind of art for the masses.

Um artists that were commissioned and supported through this project were 22.

That includes dancers, choreographers, and musicians as well, and we really love getting to be able to support people in their art making, which is you know a career, and we want to treat it as such, otherwise they go away.

They go to other places that pay them, and so we really want to make sure that they stay here in Utah County.

Um this grant funded 420 rehearsal hours for our dancers, which is just about half the amount of time it took to put on the production.

Um the funds were also used for venue rental and some advertising as well.

Um, new things in this show.

We were able to provide some accessibility accommodations that were new, um, first timers for us, like um large print programs and um for hard of hearing or deaf community, just kind of scripts of things that they heard throughout the night.

Um and we were able to create five brand new works and also present three works of repertoire.

So we're really proud of what we were able to put forth for the Lehigh community.

This is our second show here, and we've received funding for a third here that will be next April.

So we're really loving being a part of this community.

Um we've been around for 15 years, and it's just been fun to expand into other parts of the county.

And this is my home.

I'm a Lehigh resident, so I'm really grateful to be here.

And we just want to say thank you for your support, and we hope we'll be around making more dance for you for a long time.

Thank you.

Thank you for your presentation.

Okay.

Item 2.3 is Hutchings Museum.

Good evening.

Thank you.

So I'm Leah.

I'm with the Hutchings Museum, which is just across the street.

That way.

I got lost.

So we're just reporting on our grant.

We got three different grants approved.

Our first one was for an event coordinator and educator.

We hired uh Ben Woodruff.

Um he has created a lot of content for education purposes for our YouTube channel for outreach programs, helping with field trips, training volunteers, teaching rooms, and sort of things.

We've also been able to add a couple of new events or bring back events that we had to drop in past years.

So bringing back different community events, like magical museum night at the museum, as well as developing summer camps for kids, and lecture series as well.

So got a couple of pictures of the events, videos.

I'm just very interactive for people of all ages, just a lot of them there.

So one of the grants was his paycheck to help cover these things.

The panels were plated glass, so if a kid fell in it, it would just basically shatter and cut lots of people up.

So we got acrylic panels.

They're a lot clearer and cleaner, and it actually just makes the room so much better.

So thank you for that.

So here's us putting it together, putting up the acrylic.

And then our last one that we did was the security and storage over at the Pink House where we have security and storage there, so we need it.

So thank you so much for your help, your support, and we really do appreciate it.

So thank you.

Thank you very much.

Okay, item 2.4 is Lehigh Area Music Association.

I haven't on a thumb drive if you need it, but I'm also prepared to work off the paper, so uh little old-fashioned.

Oh, you've been here before, haven't you?

For the record, my name is Tracy Price.

I'm the president of the Lehigh Area Music Association, and I'm going to follow with you the uh four Bs.

I'm going to be bold, be bright, be brief, and be gone.

Is a rehearsal night.

So uh thank you uh first of all for giving me the opportunity to talk with you about uh what we what we accomplished.

I'm gonna review what we accomplished this last year with the uh with the park funds, and I'm also gonna talk about the results that we saw with what was completed.

Now, overall, your support enabled us to continue to do what we do, and that is to represent the city of Lehigh in front of hundreds of thousands of people over the course of a year, uh, and in locally to enrich the uh culture of the uh of the citizens of Lehigh with our historical heritage and with uh with the gift of music.

But the grants that we received enables to do more of that more of that.

So I'm on page two now.

Specifically, the the we got two uh grants.

One enabled us to buy a trailer.

That was important for us because it enabled us as we grow as a band and we continue to grow, we can now move our stuff and uh go to various venues, and I'll talk about what that did for us in a minute.

We also uh were enabled uh we're we were able to uh get some additional rehearsal space and uh better performance venues, and that made a huge difference in terms of our audiences and what we were able to accomplish.

So uh you can see the the page three is just a detailed breakdown of what uh how we spent the money.

We spent it all, and uh along with some of our own funds to accomplish that.

Let me talk about the results on page four.

Uh specifically, two of our key performance indicators.

We uh as a result of what uh we uh were able to uh receive.

We supported two more community events last year, this last year than we did in previous years, and our non-parade audience grew by 25 percent.

That's a conservative estimate, it's probably closer to a third.

And those are two things that will continue to keep compounding.

We expect that we're gonna continue to grow in that respect next year and the year after that, and the year after that was a result of what we were able to accomplish.

And uh so we expect that to uh to continue.

Last page.

Um we can't say thank you enough.

We try and mention our sponsors every time we have a chance.

We have it on our banners, we have it on our website, uh, we do it in our performances, but really can't say thank you enough.

And uh and and from uh from one of a vanishing breed, uh myself, one who was born in Lehigh Hospital back in the day, uh, who uh attended meetings as a young boy in the old tabernacle, and uh actually played in the sil in the original bandwagon back in the 1960s and 70s with my uh trumpet back then, and uh who has ancestors four and five generations back who did the same thing.

Uh just can't tell you how much of an honor and a privilege it is to participate and share something with not only Lehigh but the surrounding communities with something that is so quintessentially Lehigh.

And we hope to be able to do that uh going forward.

Thank you very much.

Your support made it possible.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And as a reminder, anybody comes up for the benefit of our recorder, please state your name when you got it so it gets on the record there.

So uh item 2.5 is Lehigh City Arts Council.

My name is Curdy Listen, I'm the president of the Lehigh Arts Council.

Um first off, I want to say uh, yeah, I'm I'm glad they got a new space too, because last time I came out to the art center and they were still in our space, they were out in the hallway all the way down, like trying to cram into this little room.

So it's I think it's been really nice for them to not be in the in the music room at the Art Center.

Um I want to thank first thank all of you for supporting the Lehigh Arts Council.

And for those of you who are not going to be around this next year, thank you, thank you for your service to Lehigh.

Really do appreciate that.

Um, as far as the Arts Council is concerned, um, with the grants that we received last year.

Uh we were able to do I didn't count these, I should have.

We did four main stage shows and we did three sessions of four youth shows, which involved 661 kids.

Um we um had sold um 13,000, over 13,000 tickets to all of those.

And because we were able to free up funds from using the park tax to pay for like show royalties, we were able to do things um like if you've ever been in the art room in the art center, the floor was horrendous.

It was paint everywhere.

We were actually were able to pour an acrylic nice floor with funds that we had because of the art tax as a result of being able to pay for the rights that freed up funds so that we were able to blade that full floor.

Also, this is huge.

You may not think this is huge, but this is massive.

Um our popcorn machine broke.

And we had to do two shows without a popcorn machine, and because we had extra funds, we were able to upgrade our popcorn machine to a better popcorn machine, and now we're back on track.

But we had people literally like upset that we didn't have popcorn at our shows.

Um so and we had little the little skinny pop bags, and that wasn't good enough.

They needed fresh popcorn.

Um one of the things with theater is the technology is always changing, it's always updating, it's always getting better.

Uh with that, our light board had gone out of um support.

And so any time the light board had a problem, it couldn't be fixed.

So through the park tax, we were able to um purchase a new light board.

Well, one of those things with buying new light boards and those kind of things is other things need to be upgraded at that time to be compatible with that board.

So we had to put a new um electrical um in the theater because we wanted to be able to run some lights that weren't able to run on the previous board, which makes our show that much better.

And so the park tax helped us pay for um $9,000 in electrical work to have um new circuits brought in and put in so that we could have all um new new lighting, LED lighting that's all can be any color you want, it can do all kinds of things, it's very neat.

Um, along with that, I don't know if you remember, but we used to have the old can lighting for the um for the uh seating lights, what are those called?

The you know what I'm talking about.

Um we were able to upgrade those to actual like theater auditorium lights that were separate on a separate system that could be dimmed and controlled with our new light board, so it makes it really nice.

You can actually see the floor and not trip over chairs and make it to your seat.

That also allowed us to then use the old system that was uh still there, the old CAN system, and replace those with brand new work lights.

And so now we can actually see the whole stage when we're working on it without having to turn on our our show lights and burn those out.

So we really do appreciate that.

And last but not least is that we wanted to start a new um visual arts program, uh, the digital art program, so that everyone knows everything's going digital, and so these kids that were coming and doing our arts wanted to learn the um the new Adobe suite and all this kind of stuff.

So we've actually um had two sessions that have both sold out of our digital art, and through the park tax, we were able to buy um iPads with the pencil and the case and everything for them to be able to, if they didn't have it, we had it for them so they could use those tools to learn how to do digital art.

This upcoming year, we're doing instead of being an introductory course, we're doing an introductory course and a more advanced course so that we're continuing it.

So that's just growing.

I'm gonna add another iPad to that um group because we get so many people that want to come.

We actually have kids um pairing up on one iPad to be able to be in that class, and so we're gonna add another iPad um that we have some extra fun so that we'll be able to have one more for those kids.

Um but we're really excited about it.

We also uh I was just talking to the um hive people as they laughed.

We're very, very excited about the growth of our um stage for everyone um group.

And I wanted to make sure that we weren't conflicting with them, and it turns out we're not there a day program, ours is an evening program.

But I noticed in their picture several kids that do our um special needs as well.

And we've just grown from I think when we started it was like 10 kids, and now we're at 34.

And so that program has really kind of taken off for those kids and they love it, and we love having them, and we'll continue to do it as long as we can.

Most of what we do for that program is just donated for free, and just to let those kids have an opportunity to be on stage, which we think is great.

Anyway, that's all I have.

Thank you very much.

We appreciate everything you guys do for the War US, and we appreciate the park tax.

Thank you very much.

Okay, item 2.5 is the Lehigh City Arts Council.

Oh, I mean, I'm sorry, Lehigh Historical Society Archives.

Sorry.

You don't want to give your presentation again.

Really, how it's worked out is we hold our recreation up there, but we've also held events.

And so if we have an event that we want to do, we contact them, we make sure that they don't have a conflict, and they've been really good to work with.

Um, we had our Kevin Bacon's concert up there when we did the grand opening, we basically said we get all the parking, we you know, rodeo week, we get all the parking, um, things like that.

So we don't use our full thirty percent with our recreation programs.

Um, and there is a lot of misconception that goes on up there as well.

Uh, people think that they can't go up there and do things realistically.

What they can't do is if it is an outside organized team, such as Northern Utah County soccer, um, soccer from Saratoga Springs, any of that, they can't go up there and practice on the fields.

Uh, frankly, Arsenal put in a lot of money and take care of them very, very well for the field space.

And so it's kind of the competing interest for them.

They don't want to do that for other organized clubs.

So, our recreation has the ability to go up there and use it anytime they want.

Um, minus if they have games up there, but there's there's always places for them to practice.

Um, so I mean Bart, wouldn't you agree?

This is Bart Preston as well.

He's president of Arsenal talker.

So we have uh Bart.

Yeah.

Yeah, Bart President, President of Utah Arsenal.

And uh, we love having the rec program up there.

They're up there, we have dedicated fields where they come up there and play games and practice.

And we love seeing them up there.

And I think for us, one thing we're really proud of too is it's not just soccer.

If you've been up there a lot, there's I think it's the default dog park for Lehigh as well.

Every park is.

Yeah.

Um something we're proud of when we welcome that.

We want to see people up there flying kites and playing catch and walking their dogs and running and playing, and that's something that we appreciate as community members.

We think that's important, something that we will continue to support going forward.

Yeah, there's actually a lot of interesting things that do happen up there.

Like uh they tested they've tested some military drones up there from time to time.

I got invited to one of those circumstances where one drone chases down another one and captures it.

And uh it's pretty it's pretty fantastic.

That space is used for a lot of stuff.

So we do have a community impact report we'll pass out to it so you guys can see kind of how we look at the impact that we've had.

Um bottom line for us, we believe that our partnership has been positive for the community.

Um so much use goes on up there, and we love to see it.

We just hope it can continue.

So, Steve, the city soccer programs aren't hurting for field space.

They're okay.

Yeah, this okay.

Our recreation program didn't even use the space until a few years ago.

I mean, until I realistically put a brick and mortar restroom up there.

Um we had portables up there and it it was kind of, you know, um we we didn't use I believe it was Olympic Park this year.

Um no, excuse me, it was North Lake Park this year.

Yeah, we moved everybody out to Olympics.

So we're able to, with this additional space, we're actually able to rotate some of our usage to give the the fields that we do use a break and let them regrow.

Um we don't have the heavy maintenance practice that these guys are doing, and so it does take us more time.

So yeah, because of that.

And Mr.

Mayor.

I was just gonna add from the original contract.

Passive use of those fields is not included in the 30 percent.

So it's in addition to when those fields aren't being used by Arsenal, then our residents can use it for passive uses.

Yeah, and then the 30 percent is all for our active programmed use.

So just want to make that clear.

And I've actually even met with uh two other uh soccer clubs, right?

Utah County was one of them, and I can't remember the name of the others and some other some other sports uh interest people I've met with, and they said we want the same deal that that Arsenal has.

So I said, well, that's great.

Let me let me explain to you what the deal is, and when we're all done, they're like they're doing that.

I'm like, yeah, they're doing that.

And they always like I never hear from them again.

That's it, because when they realize the the maintenance, you know, uh of all the land, which includes fertilization, the irrigation maintenance, uh, the topping of the of the field, which has has to happen regularly, and all the material they have to bring in to maintain a field like that.

I mean yeah, Jerry's back there, and I you know I've seen yeah, what you're out there like you or somebody else is out there at least once a week out there working on those fields, and uh it's just an incredible amount of time.

So uh I'm uh I'm appreciative of it because I don't know how we would get this done any other way.

I I also have met with countless other groups, and realistically what it comes down to is uh a qualified maintenance technician.

And I hate that Jerry's back there because he's gonna get a bigger head than he has.

But realistically, Jerry can't get any bigger.

There's there's truth to that too.

But there is there is a reason that Arsenal up there has been very successful, and it's because they do have a qualified maintenance practice and they do a great job.

So they do.

Okay.

Uh council.

If there's no other questions, I'll take a motion on item 4.2.

Mr.

Mayor, go ahead, Chris.

Go ahead.

Mr.

Mayor, move that we approve resolution 2025-85 in agreement with Arsenal for sports field maintenance.

I have a motion to approve uh by Paul.

Do I have a second?

You're fine.

You're fine.

I'll give the second to Chris.

Any questions on that motion?

Paul, I'll start the voting with you.

Yes.

Heather?

Yes.

Chris?

Yes.

Michelle?

Yes.

And Paige.

Yes.

Okay.

Thank you.

With that, uh, we go to our item number five, which is our noise control ordinance discussion.

Mayor, these next two items are just discussion items, not voting items.

They are just both discussions.

Yeah.

Okay.

Should we make some noise or try not to make noise?

Yeah.

Um sorry to interrupt real quick, but Craig is online.

Oh, okay.

So if you have questions, he and Kim are the put this draft together and so he'll be available to answer your questions.

At least for about 20 minutes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll take as long or as short as you want on this.

I guess just kind of a quick overview.

Um we were asked to look at the noise ordinance I think it was very early this year.

Craig and I came up with a draft.

We we presented it similar setting, just discussion.

We got some feedback, uh, and now we're back.

We're trying to implement what we heard the last time we were here, which I think was August.

Or maybe we even looked at it one other time between then.

Um but this is really this is your policy decision, how whatever you feel like you want in your noise ordinance, we will implement that.

So I just want to make it clear that we're you know we're not advocating what's best or not.

We'll we'll implement what you feel is best.

Um but anyways, let me walk through the the this is the latest draft.

Um of the things that we is new from any of the presentations we've done before, Craig picked up on this early on in the ordinance that talks about um you know what is the actual penalty.

If somebody violates the noise ordinance, they're found guilty.

Well, it's a class B misdemeanor, which is on par with a DUI.

I mean, it's of serious infraction.

So Craig's recommendation was to downgrade that, I guess if you want to say that to a class C misdemeanor, which is still you don't want a misdemeanor on your record either way, but it's not, you know, we're we're not talking DUI status.

So anyways, again, if that rings okay with you, we'll we uh put that in the draft.

Uh it's mentioned a couple times.

There it is again, class C.

So we're just changing all those references for those who have violated the ordinance.

Um then when we get into most of the changes are in the last few discussions have kind of revolved around.

How do you measure real quick back on the punishment side of things?

Uh you know, if they're found guilty in the case of like a business, who's like who's cited with that misdemeanor?

Yeah.

Is it the person that's operating the vehicle?

Is it uh just curious?

Yeah, so I can answer that.

It would actually be both.

Uh we can charge both the business and the individual who's operating a vehicle or who's causing the noise, or anyone that aids at that sort encourages the sound.

Thank you.

Yeah, in fact, um kind of skipping to the end.

This section, we added this whole section because that was one of the concerns is who do we actually cite?

So this is all brand new.

It says the following persons or entities may be held responsible for any violation.

So whoever's causing the noise, the business owner, the property owner, and then like Craig said, anyone that is part of the noise making.

Um says responsibility may be assigned to one or more either jointly or in individually.

So hopefully that would resolve who ends up with a class C misdemeanor.

Um so okay, so back to how do we measure the noise.

Um I think last time we talked about that we we were proposing to get rid of the word microphone because a lot of new technology it doesn't use an actual microphone.

And I'm gonna I I know um council member Newell had some specific things, and I and those are what are highlighted in yellow.

She read through this once we posted or I think we sent her the draft um just before we posted it in the packet.

And I don't know if you want to speak to those specifically, but um I've put them in the draft so you can see like probably where they would should land.

And I think you had already identified, you know, this section.

You had some recommendations.

So the first one is on what type of meter are we gonna use?

And and yeah, I'm grateful for Heather.

She did some research, like what we had cited in the code.

This ANSI, it's outdated.

So I don't know if you have any other additional information or just that the way we're gonna do that.

That was the and just to this now puts in the US standard and the international standard.

So whatever our devices are that we purchase, they would be classified as that.

The code how do we had it before they don't make monitoring devices with that kind of standard?

So there could be issues if we take it to court and it and it wasn't measured with the device that says in our code, so this way would just give us that full protection to make sure.

Yeah, that we're using current technology and that it's rated, yeah.

Are are these kind of standards too?

So if the technology improves, it would still have to comply with these.

So in other words, we wouldn't have to constantly be coming back and updating the code.

It's the most recent one, so I would hope so.

It's the most recent one, so I would hope so, but I guess I mean the ones we were using were from 1971, I think it was, and the like 1984 standards.

So I'd hope that this would be the standard for I just think about there there are times where we have code where it's tied to state statute, and if state statute changes, then we just automatically comply with that.

So I wonder if there's Do we say like the most updated standard in there?

Yeah.

And so we don't have to bring it back every time or yes, we can just or current.

Oh, go ahead, Craig.

Yeah, and that's one thing that we can add is we could we could use those and then maybe put or current like if there's a governing acceptable.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And and maybe from instead of an Z acceptable because we could also just put current generally accepted standard.

Okay.

I'm just trying to avoid, you know, us getting two, three years down the road and all of a sudden these are outdated.

There's stuff that's way better, way more accurate, and we're still referencing this, so from an enforcement standpoint, pressing it.

Especially for prosecuting it, and then yeah.

This would be basically the kind of standards of the monitors that we can buy right now.

Yeah.

That would be and it's also holding it to a higher standard than just going and and buying something.

Yep, you know, ran off Amazon.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Uh so that is the device, and then how we actually measure the noise is this next section.

And I and in the previous discussion it came up, well, who's who's doing the measuring?

So we tried to identify, and again, if you don't like this, or you want to have somebody else, or you want the property owner as somebody who could take the measurements, but we felt like it should be either a police officer or and this is a nod to the future now that we've amended our budget, the code enforcement officer.

So we felt like just identifying those two, or I guess it could be more than one officer, but those two sources are the official measures.

So I guess a resident could take their own reading, you know, say there's noise at night occurring and they take their own reading, yeah, it's out of code, and then they'll they would need these people to come and confirm their reading.

Um then yeah, some of this is just clarification on instead of microphone measuring device or sound level meter, where it needs to be positioned, and some of this is already in there, you know, five feet from a wall because you can have noise that reflects off those things and amplifies it.

Um then uh again, some of Heather's uh suggested additional language on because I guess these meters can be calibrated just like light meters and some other measuring devices.

We'd want to make sure they were field calibrated before and after the measurement.

So they'd have I would assume there's a way to do that where you have a known decibel um level that you send out and it reads it, you know, and you has to be like a like our speed radar guns or something.

Yeah.

Can I ask a question, Kim on this?

So as far as so we we purchased uh what are they called?

Noise detection meters.

Yeah, noise measuring device.

So if by this section, that that would mean either the peace officer or the code enforcement officer would use those instruments.

If I guess is that if a complaint comes in and someone specifies, hey, at this time, this day, or this day of time of day on a repeated basis, then this occurs and they bring in a recording or something.

Yeah.

Then the city will take those devices that were purchased and use those to go and detect, see if they can detect it and what variable it's detection the detection is at?

Is that accurate to say?

Yeah.

I think that's the how it would work.

So it's still uh which I mean it's always reactive, right?

Um there's not really a way to be proactive, but um but that's the intent.

Is the city staff one of those one of those positions or someone would take that equipment and go measure that sound?

Yep.

Okay.

Yeah, I would guess most of it would be handled by the police department.

You know, say there's a loud party at night and neighbors are complaining, they could go out and they'd have the device with them and take a reading and say, yeah, they're definitely in violation or however.

Kim, let me ask you on that question.

Let's say somebody is having a loud party at night or something.

If like if it's a wedding of once in a uh tenure or even an annual event, right?

They may not be aware of how noisy they are.

Sometimes they don't think about it.

Do the police dot do they just come out and and measure the noise or do they stop and say no?

We're just gonna tell you you need to turn it down.

Turn it down.

And if they if I mean at what point do you decide okay, they're they're guilty of a class C misdemeanor because you would think there's gonna be a lot of circumstances where people are just it's it is completely unintentionally and if they adjust for it, that's great.

It's what they don't adjust for it.

Yeah, you know.

And and I don't want to speak for um Chief Paul, but I do know that our officers are really good at um doing community policing and education first, uh especially on things like this.

However, there are times when yes, they might cite someone, it'll come to our office, we'll review the facts, meet with the the alleged perpetrator, and then determine whether or not to go forward or not.

So there is that added uh safety into it.

Okay.

That answers the question.

Yeah.

I think it would have to be, you know, we're we don't care.

We're just you know, yeah, that I mean if it's somebody who's blatantly in violation that's a whole different aspect than somebody who was just didn't understand.

Yeah.

Okay.

Uh so we talked about the calibration number three, and yeah, we'd had some misnumbering that Heather caught.

Um, but I think three is just some clarification on like if it's inside of a building, because even if the noise doesn't emanate outside there's for people's health and their hearing, we have noise limits.

Like if it's a indoor party, you yeah, anyways, this talks about how you take those readings.

Um and then we did add four based on previous discussions here.

Um we wanted to make sure if a noise source that's identifiable and it can be measured in two different zones, like say a business is next to both residential and commercial, the reading that we would create create the I guess the decision on w whether there's a violation would be the less restrictive zone.

So we'd take it from the residential measurement, they'd have to be below those decibels.

So probably what it said is the most restrictive.

Yeah, yeah, the most and yeah, Heather um is recommending that we add, you know, that it's measured at the receiving property.

We probably should clarify where the measurement is taken.

Um let's see five is also from Council Member Newell's recommendations.

And this one, yeah.

Um I guess what this would say is that the noise has to occur for at least three consecutive minutes to constitute a violation.

So if it's just kind of a one time or you know, somebody accidentally bangs something, or uh but yeah, it has to be ongoing, I think is what your because we have like the different categories of sound.

So then it was like, okay, how long is continuous sound?

How long do we does that have to be for?

Is so I think we need a and you know, I don't know if three minutes is the right thing, but it there needed to be a a time, you know, a timer to say this is how long this sound is for, and that's what's constitutes it being continuous or intermediate.

So yeah, and that would be like over a three-minute period of time, how you know are you hearing this sound going in?

It wasn't just the the one-time sound.

Yeah, yeah, that's okay.

I see what you're saying.

Because it this is specifically for continuous or it intermittent, and then I think there's another category for just impulse.

Impulse, yeah.

That would have been three minutes is a long time if you want us to look at that and see what other jurisdictions are doing.

Um we could also add some language into inner you know, intermittent noises and have them, you know, whether or not you know, each when does the three minutes start, and we can we can dive into that a little deeper if you'd like us to.

Yeah, because I don't I don't know that that three minutes is the right number either.

Is it gonna be 30 seconds?

Is it you know how long do they need to measure that for to be in violation?

Yeah.

Okay.

So yeah, I've added a note that we'll check into that.

And then I think just a quick comment on that.

I I mean, I the thing I I struggle with a little bit with these kind of policies is they're they're needed.

But one, how enforceable how much are we able to enforce?

Two I I think the I I mean, I think a noise violation is gonna be fairly obvious, but I think the I think the person, I guess making the noise needs to have a little bit more of the uh what's the term I'm trying to think of?

Um have a little more latitude, right?

Then the person may be complaining about the noise.

Um I think if we make it so restrictive, it's gonna be harder to enforce.

And two, it it's gonna be, I mean, potentially you're gonna have so many complaints.

I mean, for example, let's say 30 seconds, right?

If if we were to drive that to me seems so short.

Um, I know three minutes may seem long, but 30 seconds seems so short that that could increase the number of complaints, and it's is that really what we're trying to achieve.

Does that make sense?

I mean, if it lasts 31 seconds, is that really what we want, you know, officers going out to response to or trying to get the device out there for that, you know, every five minutes, 31 seconds of five minutes is that continuous noise, or is it more like that's why I think three minutes is probably more a little more or something like that, right?

Two to three minutes is a little more reasonable.

Um I yeah, I don't want to become like the city that's like looking for every little aspect that oh my gosh, that's wrong.

Slap them.

That's wrong, slap them, you know.

It's we don't one, I don't want to be like that, but two, I we just don't have resources to do it anyway.

It's it's unmanageable.

Yeah.

Um so anyway, that's that's just my thoughts on on that type of code.

Is I I would lean or give a little more latitude towards the person that's maybe having the wedding party or doing what the celebration and you know, then the person that may be annoyed by it.

Yeah, and on this part, it was about how long should a noise reading be measured for.

So to kind of for the officer, how long do they need to measure that sound for to be in violation rather than you know, okay?

You can be really noisy for 30 seconds, but then not that I there's still different violations that just for those short periods of time too, but it was kind of giving direction, like how long do they need to record that for?

And really what this should do is give our you know, give us and give officers a standing with being able to have something enforceable that has some teeth to it.

Um, because otherwise, you know, it's just we're just gonna put up a noise ordinance, but then what happens?

Oh no, I I agree, I agree.

I just I I I think it would be interesting for staff to go back and look at other entities or cities.

I just off the cuff.

I just I I think there could be too short, and then I think there's too long, yeah.

So maybe it's in between that 30 and three minute period.

But but yeah.

So if we add up and while the reading is being taken, does that so you and this is something we could definitely look into.

And uh, Chris, in answer to your question, I you know, I've worked for the city for almost 10 years, prosecuted a lot of that time, and really the only cases dealing with noise that have come to court have been typically dog barking cases that we've handled through the nuisance ordinance.

So that's kind of the lens that I'm looking at this through, and that's why I think it would be advantageous for Kim and I to maybe go down the rabbit hole and see kind of what a good time frame would be.

Okay.

That makes sense.

Okay.

Okay, let's see.

These tables, these are the actual stated, you know, maximum decibels for the different zones, and we just are changing the wording to the zoning of the property receiving the noise so it's clear that that's the decibel level at those locations.

It wasn't really clear, it just said district, and then we're changing light industrial or industrial to light industrial since we no longer have any land zoned industrial.

Uh let's see, I think so.

Those are all the same.

I think the only other changes we did discuss a couple of meetings ago that we probably should exempt roadway noise.

I know there were some issues out on West Main Street after we widened the road.

There were people that said your road is causing you know your vo in violation, but it's there's really how how do we cite anyone, go stand out and give tickets to all the drivers because they're driving on the road.

It just that seemed like something that we should exempt.

So yeah, I guess this is actually the section with the misnumbering.

This I think this is the last paragraph.

We already talked about the responsibility one.

So this one, if you remember, we had some discussion about you know what the this is we're now into the what is exempt from our noise regulations.

And um again, a few times ago when we discussed this, we thought we probably should take into account athletic events.

I think there was a concern that it shouldn't just be public events, but that just so we took out public social just and so it just says if there's athletic events or other special events that they shall be exempt.

If you know you're gonna have a noisy event, you'd file for a permit and state you know what your hours are gonna be, what you think your decibels are gonna be, and the city I think it goes to trying to remember who the approving I think it might be the mayor.

I guess we need to oh maybe it's up at the top.

Um I'll have to look and see.

I think somewhere in here it uh identifies what's that?

You're talking about the exemption to sign who does the permits.

Yeah.

If it's not in there, we probably need to add that.

Let's see.

I know a lot of them, like if you remember sometimes U dot will come in like, hey, we're gonna be we need to work 24 hours around the clock to finish Tim Penogas Highway, or you know, they've come in on some of those big projects.

And I think I think it just says permit from the city.

It used to be mayor, but the city that was one of the other drafts, I think.

That's not it.

Oh, is it city administrator?

Okay, okay.

So maybe that's in a different section.

Yeah.

Okay.

And you can pick whoever you want it to be.

Um be the administrator or his days like me, or it could be Kim.

Uh even when he retires will still be the same.

Since you're not voting on anything, what we're really looking for is just kind of a consensus, you know, of what changes you want to see if you want us to draft in all of Heather's suggestions, and then obviously when it comes back, you can still make you can still make it whatever tweaks, but we're just looking for direction on what final draft to bring back to you.

The the other thing too, um council member elect Harrison reached out some other residents about is something we didn't look at.

This is an earlier point of the code of the time, the nighttime hours being from ten to six.

And other surrounding cities are ten to seven, and that seems I agree with um what others have reached out about that that seems like a more appropriate time to have be designated as those nighttime hours.

So I actually have a question on that though.

Um because if so, if you have a business that has to have vehicles out by 7 a.m., does that impact that?

Possibly if they can't start up those, you know, or maybe they have their their startup ones being further away from residential.

I think that's part of the problem of these incompatible zones, but I also think that's tough too as a resident that you're being woke up at 6 a.m.

every morning to well I'm I'm up then anyway.

Oh I'm dependent at that time, so uh would there be any kind of vested right with the current title?

Someone who's currently operating six a.m.

is at a time.

Or would they have to change their business hours?

Right.

They would have to change.

No.

They would have to change.

Who's they?

Okay, the business.

There's a lot of construction businesses.

Yeah.

I mean, realistically, uh particularly in the summer, a lot of landscape companies and everything.

They move they'll be moving their trucks out, you know, at least by 6 a.m.

So what what do you think then with Draper and Saratoga Springs both have that as 7 a.m.?

Seven.

I think it really is just whatever as the policy making body you you go with, we'll put seven or six, whatever you feel is most appropriate.

It'd be interesting to know what other cities do, but it seems like we've got cities that have had that time and they haven't changed it, so it seems like I think 5 a.m.

is obviously right too early, 8 a.m.

is too late.

I think it you know you could say 6 30 or you know split the difference.

Well again, we can just put a placeholder there for now.

Do the research, bring it back, and then you can decide at that meeting what you want the appropriate hours to be.

I'd say maybe is it reaching out to the other the other cities around the timing, uh maybe it just ask if there have been exemptions granted, you know, where businesses have come in and asked for requests during certain times of year.

The mayor talked about landscaping, you know, in the summer, maybe there are times just to understand what they're doing, get it get the full picture.

And and it may be that it's seven and they just stick a seven and that's fine, but it may be appropriate to do it seasonally, have two different times.

Yeah, summer versus winter is probably, you know, seven's probably not a problem, but in the summer, uh, particularly contractors and landscapers late, they like to be on the job before seven.

The heat.

So can one of the concerns I have is on the table it says zoning of the property, receiving the noise.

Um I think we ran into this with the depth buffering issues when we have uh uh property that's zoned one way but used another, like residential, like it's zoned for commercial, but it's still used as residential.

So I don't want to fall into that problem with this.

So would you say zoning or use?

Or use or approved use?

Yeah.

Non-conforming legal.

We just use it as housing.

Um and then also it's receiving the noise, but what about emitting the noise?

Because even in, I'm thinking of workplaces, right?

You want it for the people who work there.

You don't want it too loud to damage their ear hearing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So do we have limits within the district?

We don't.

Yeah, these are all just so would that be more of an OSHA type of situation though?

I mean, it it it's it seems like there are business regulations already in place, and maybe I'm wrong to to manage that.

Or a party or I mean it could be anything, but within the zone, you probably want limits as well, not just the only one that I can think of is like that one that's inside of a building you can't exceed, you know, it is pretty loud.

I mean, but yeah, you get concerts and probably even some of the high school events, you get pretty loud.

Yeah, like the loud speakers at the games or but yeah, yeah.

That's I don't think this really addresses that.

Um probably just change the wording, I think, and I don't know what word you do use right now, but thinking about it, could you come up with something just it could still be you're doing a measurement on that property of that property in violation.

So if it's a residential property, there's a party happening there, they could go out and measure the sound of that, and it still needs to be still within residential.

It's still receiving it.

But I think the big key on this is we don't want to say that because the sound's coming from light industrial and hitting the residential property that they are allowed the light industrial decibels.

They have to conform to the residential property decibels on the residential property.

Yeah, I think that's where this originated from is we wanted to make that clear.

But yeah, we I we can add, like I did here, just zoning or approved use of property.

So that at least that covers if you have a home in mixed use, like we've seen on recent proposal.

Okay.

So question, Kim.

Not that this would ever happen again, but it probably will.

Uh the railroad horns, right?

That we were in violation for a number of months.

Uh they're clearly they clearly exceed the decibels.

Now it's not the horn doesn't last for three minutes, but if you're a centrally located downtown at every crossing, you're gonna hear it over a span of maybe three minutes, right?

Yeah.

How do we how do we deal with those circumstances?

Because you know, it used to be that everybody was used to those horns because they right, we weren't uh we weren't a quiet zone.

Yeah.

We became a quiet zone, and then all of a sudden when they pulled that uh away from us and uh started blasting their horns again, then we got all kinds of complaints over it, right?

Yeah.

I would think we could put it in this exempt section, just you know, any required railroad.

There are things that we have no control over.

They're governed by the federal government.

So we're probably even if we tried, we're probably preempted by federal law and rules from regulating anything that comes from the railroads.

You can't pull over a train engine.

I'll just put a note.

Yeah.

Could you just generically say any any state or federal exemption would be for anything that's preempted?

Yeah.

Yeah, and add something in there.

Okay.

So there are at least three of you agree with all of the input that's been received so that we can draft to that.

Again, you can make changes when it comes to the code.

I'm really interested about the concept of summer versus winter hours because I mean this always this discussion always brings up things I'd never would have considered.

And a lot of those cities that have their hours starting at seven in the morning also take them to 10 30 at night, you know, or later, so it's just whatever that window is.

We'll see what's out there and bring it back to you.

It's interesting.

Okay.

Yeah there's probably enough work here that we I don't think we'd make it well I know we wouldn't because packets go out I think they go out today or this week for the for your last meeting.

So this is probably going to be into the next year before we have a refined draft back for consideration.

But it do you want to see it again as a work session or or with these changes would we want to just schedule it for action.

Which again you could still table it if but yeah we'll go either way if you want one more round of discussion or we can schedule it when we have it ready.

I I would think since it's going to go into next year I would probably do a work session just so the new council mayor can fair enough their opportunity to speak to it before it goes to action and since I mean three of us are not going to be here anyway so okay.

That that's my thought I'd I'd just do another work session with it.

I won't be here so okay we'll we'll just tentatively plan that way we'll and then yeah when we're ready we'll bring it back at a work session or pre-council.

Kim and Craig thank you for working so long and hard on this and I can tell that you're paying attention to the input each time I notice that when I read it so appreciate what you guys are doing.

Yeah you're welcome.

Okay Jason do you know if our officers were able to I know that Chris had pushed to get our those sound meters purchased.

Did they get it them in there we have them the officers don't have but we have the cell monitors they're just upstairs.

Okay.

Yeah because I know officer Swenson was talking about he does have like an old Radio Shack one.

It would be kind of cool if the the he could have that and then that might give us some feedback too based on the kind of monitor that we have if it the Radio Shark one or the new one.

The new one if he could have one of the new ones and then making sure that our what we're suggesting in the code is okay you know actually works and he thinks that it's gonna work for him so we can work that out.

Bo has them so like a final program before okay yeah okay you're welcome are you doing the next one too?

Yeah.

Okay so item six is the four by uh conservation easement discussion.

Okay and and I don't want to steal Payson's thunder they will be on your agenda.

I think they're actually the one of the first items for the meeting on the 16th but we just thought maybe it would be good just to make sure so that because they're gonna show up with um Payson City's mayor and there's actually a he's the manager of the four bay area recreation area property Adam Cowie.

We just thought Jason and I thought oh he's here I I am not the manager I am just a citizen on a committee with the committee that's overseeing the area.

So I guess if we have questions tonight but we just thought you know we'll bring it up one more time this is kind of a last call for any major issues.

Hopefully there's no major issues you've already been you know agreed to be the grantee and Pace and City would be the grand tour.

So the you've got the presentation in your packet I don't like you know we'll probably end up going through this next week or in two weeks I guess on the 16th.

So again it's just you know hey we'll bring it up see if there's any major concerns.

I I do want to mention two really cool things that I think have happened from our conservation easement.

This is one you know they reached out as soon as they s ours hit the press and they said well that's really cool.

Why don't we do this for ours?

And so that was where this I think a lot of this idea was born is they I love to the chance to do it for someone in the community.

Yeah.

Um but the other one if you're you've been paying attention I think it was in October Provo City owns a gorgeous piece of property in South Fork called the Bunnels Fork it's a hundred and sixty acres ish and part of it's their watershed very similar attributes to this piece.

And they are now they I've had contact with Provo City hey can you send us your easement and so kudos to you for having the courage to you know we I think Draper maybe was the forerunner the but then we took major action and it just has rippled through and I think we'll probably see others in the same boat.

And we want to add to ours, we're picking up land in the sky area plan that someday we'll come back, you know, once we amass all of that open space, but we're gonna add I think that's an additional three hundred acres of open space above the temple site.

So yeah, anyways, it's exciting.

So Adam's here, I don't know.

We can keep this short if you're like, hey, everything looks great.

I mean, we're we're essentially playing the role of draper did with our so we will hold the conservation easement and we'll be the I guess.

Yeah, we figured you were familiar with the concept, but if you just had any questions or concerns now, being on the other side of the conservation easement rather than the grand tour.

So I mean, as the grantee, if if they wanted to make an exception, it would essentially come before us as the governing body to say yeah, yay or nay, you can that that complies, or it's an exemption that we're willing to grant.

Yep.

Yeah, and Adam's done a really good job, and again, you know, we can we'll probably hit this in more detail next in two weeks.

But he's explained, you know, how the easement works and can it be amended?

Yes.

Um, you know, we have to be involved with changes and things like that, but um it's all kind of summarized in this um slideshow, and he's got some really cool pictures.

It's they've got winter activities up there, summer activities, it's part of their watershed.

This is a really cool piece, and so it's exciting to see this preserved for future generations.

So happy to do it.

Yep, be fun if Payson then did provose and provo did.

Ah, there you go.

Pacing could hold probos.

Yep.

Okay.

It's a beautiful area up there, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Horseback.

I mean we ought to get a guided tour once it's all done.

We should have asked for one.

Yeah.

We plan a roads that riddles have enough source.

We'll certainly buy it.

That'd be awesome.

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

I forgot to mention that.

They they plan a ribbon cutting like we did, and they would love as many of you that can make it down there.

Yeah, it's beautiful.

Any questions for Kim?

No.

Okay.

Okay.

Anything else?

Council.

Administration.

Ask me tomorrow.

We have our weekly meetings on Wednesday.

She had to go there.

So I got out.

I got a question for Lauren.

Because I know he's been working really, really hard on this.

So there's two things I want out of you tonight, Lauren.

First of all, I want to I want to know when sixth east is going to be open.

Second of all, I think the council would like to get an update on the Dry Creek Reservoir.

Uh improvement.

Improvements.

And they are there.

We were quite uh I drove the site yesterday, and all the curb is in.

I mean, it's looking pretty cool.

Looking good.

They the curb is uh they were just finishing some pieces of the curb.

I wish the walk uh was coming this week, but it's not apparently it the concrete guy there will be next week.

We'll have to do some blanketing and stuff, but it does what the roads are there.

You kind of feel like, well, that's too narrow, but it does work.

So yeah, it's looking very good.

I think the utilities are in underground.

Uh I think there's a few more items to finish.

Uh, we're still deciding whether to build a jointly with North Utah County, a maintenance facility for Steve's equipment and things and and theirs.

So the Did DWR ever make a determination about the depth for viability for fishing?

Well, we actually have it in an agreement that uh still working on water, that's still an issue to take care of and how we operate it, how long we can leave it.

And the uh the depth in our agreement, we actually have an agreement.

You may not remember it, but it's a few years old.

But where the overflow goes out.

Um there's a bottom bottom one that has 30 inches of water, then there's another one that's up at 41 or something like that, and it's uh about six feet.

And that's the below that we can if we have for emergencies or whatever, but that's the what we have agreed with the fishing game.

So no, I think it's really exciting.

I'm gonna send out uh this week uh you saw the bathrooms in your last one, which was was cool.

That was really neat.

Even the even the equipment that came was new to me.

I've never seen a crane like that.

It had hydraulics that I've never seen.

And literally in two hours they brought them, set them, and we're gone.

It was that quick.

Um next thing I'm gonna send you this week is uh we had we actually tried the uh inlets, uh and this is coming out of the canal water most of the time it's coming down the canyon, but the inlets uh we had to take one out because it's in the middle of the of the uh beach.

We have another one that can take a lot of water, but we have another one that we actually put uh nozzles and things on it, and uh I'll put this in my report.

But those nozzles and things are for two reasons.

One look neat, but the biggest reason is actually to put air in the water.

The minute you aerate or move it, it's amazing what it'll do for the water.

So if we do use that water, that'll be a big benefit to have this going.

Uh we're not letting kids that we may someday let kids get next to it, but right now we're not intending them to be it.

But we did have to go through a an analysis that it could be too much velocity, or it'd hurt them if they got next to it.

So it's kind of in it's it's interesting.

The fellow that helped us has done uh facilities all around the world, actually.

And so he had to okay.

We can't have this nozzle too big, or it does this, and it gets above 20 feet per second.

You gotta get below it.

But it was cool.

I'll send that out this week.

You'll get to see that.

So it's coming.

Sixth East uh well, it's paved.

It is we've actually and we actually ran into some tree issues where sight distance was a little problem, so we had to go get actually take a few more trees, and I got in trouble, but that's normal.

Um they are putting in the gas line right now, and uh it is cutting some intersections at 2600 north, and we hope that'll be done most of this week.

It's still hard to have too much traffic with that.

It's a big pipe that's going in, it serves not only the development, but we have a well there, and the backup generator has a huge pipe.

Um so there that'll be critical to get that in, so we have that backup generator.

One you you'll find this a little funny, maybe that we actually put a great big 24 inch.

If you remember right, there's a great big gas line that's being put in, which was put in.

It used to be a 20-inch went through town, and that's a massive pipe for a gas line.

It may not we have big water lines, 36 and stuff.

24 is massive.

Well, they the the designer says we ask him, he says, Well, how are you connecting your generator?

And he says, Well, that's no problem.

We just connected in we said, Well, where?

Well, there's that nice 24-inch pipe.

It goes up the road.

That's a high pressure, it's about 450, 400 or 500 pounds pressure.

You don't connect to that.

We have another low pressure which is going in now on the west side, and that's what's being built right now.

And that's what'll serve our generator.

So I it's still a little out, Mayor.

So that and the two wells.

So the one at 12th East, I notice that's there's a lot of progress being made on that one right now.

So that looks like the building is there.

Uh the fence isn't there yet, but it seems like that's pretty close to completion.

And I'm you can you can't get up and see the one on family park because it's yeah, the cut the cut of the road is too low to see it.

So what's the status on that one?

I don't uh honestly I don't know if they've moved on site for the construction of the the well house.

They've got all the design done, I think.

Is the piping in?

But I I don't think so yet, because that's when we ran into the gas issue.

He was connecting into the wrong facility.

So I don't I don't know if we've done a lot up this road, but I don't know if they've connected any of that at this point.

Okay.

But it's it's definitely getting close.

The culinary pipes are in going up the road has everything in it.

That has everything that everything's doing in the road.

Okay.

And that has a big water line in it.

It's a 20 24 inch too.

And that's been extended how far north.

That actually goes all the way up that sky, so it goes all the way up, crosses through some areas, and eventually gets into the water tanks that are being built for sky or inverness or what is it?

Is the inverness inverse?

Yeah.

So there, and the pump stations are being worked on to get the water from this zone up into those zones.

Okay.

Lots going on.

Yeah.

It's fun.

Busy.

These are the great capital projects.

Yeah, very much so.

Okay.

But the road looks good, and it just you can still drive it a little bit.

If you go up on third east, you can drive each way, you just can't get out.

I did yesterday.

I've done it a few times.

They actually let me out of 2600 north.

They shouldn't have, but that's where they let me out.

Because they were they're actually cutting the road to make the connection at 2600, which is the north end of the road.

But it's been a great, it's been a tough project because there's it's just had all kinds of things.

We've we've changed a lot of things on the project.

We lowered the road probably four feet, uh, which was amazing.

I mean that it doesn't feel like that, but having it road up another four feet through that bottom was really tough.

Um we had 40 foot walls as high as this thing out there.

We got rid of those.

I didn't like those, and so we have no wall.

There might be a pony wall of maybe five or six feet, but they're those 40 foot walls.

I don't know if this is taller than 40, is it?

That's how tile the walls would have been right next to our trail.

And that that didn't work, so we got rid of those.

So and some of the sand we hit, and maybe you I said this, but believe it or not, some of the sand was the best sand we hit is at Dry Creek.

That's our killer beach.

Yeah, yeah.

So it we've had some good things happen, and a lot of other things that the gas company took a long time, long time, and they had problems and issues, and there's the gas lines are interesting, those high pressure, they have to be really tested, and if there's any problem, they have to go back down and fix them, and they put uh flowable concrete over them, so they haven't even teared that out when they go into repair some of those issues they had.

So but it's it's it's been a great project, and we're excited to see it now.

Yeah, if you want to if you want to see it, you you can still get access down third east and get to it.

You can't go out either way, but you can go down there and look at it.

It's worth looking at because it they've done a good job.

Cool.

Yeah, I maybe just one other thing.

We did want to get it striped.

We hope that the striping will help.

We've done a lot of checking around town.

Uh just not too many ways to slow people down, but striping does seem to help.

It does have curves in it.

You have to spread it out so there's a turn lane.

We hope that they're gonna go fast.

I there's no way to get around that, but we're hoping that some of that will will help them slow down, us to slow down.

It's not just them.

Well, and it feels wider than 12th east as well.

So the ironic thing is it's about the same grades at 12th as here.

Yeah.

I wished I could have done more, but you would want to clean up the mountain.

Okay, thanks, Lauren.

Anything else you can council?

Nothing else, I'll go ahead and adjourn this meeting.