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Transit Advisory Board Business Meeting - November 18, 2024

Commissions & Advisory BoardsMonday, November 18, 2024
BodyLoudoun County, Virginia
SessionCommissions & Advisory Boards
DateMonday, November 18, 2024
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:00

Okay, I believe I'm ready.

0:02

Okay.

0:02

So my name is Rush and Sean, the Ashburn district uh representative.

0:07

And um always, as I said earlier, I was the former chair and vice chair.

0:12

I've held that position for quite some time on this board.

0:15

Uh I currently do not hold one, and I'm kind of keeping the seat warm for Ray, who will join us momentarily, but in the interest of time, we'll get started as we do have quorum.

0:25

Um the first order of business is member introduction.

0:28

We have a couple new members here.

0:30

Uh do we have any?

0:32

Yes.

0:33

Michael, you want to my name's Michael Kurtsky.

0:36

Uh, I'm born and raised in Ashburn, and I currently uh live at Metro Wall, right by the Ashburn Metro Station.

0:42

So I take it into DC five, six days a week.

0:46

Do that hour long slug commute, uh, but it still beats uh pay the tolls and the gas and that sort of stuff.

0:52

So I currently don't own a car, so I get around London County completely via public traffic.

0:59

Welcome.

1:00

So Lorenzo, I don't know if are you new or no?

1:04

No, okay.

1:05

Um, and I believe everyone else has um been a member of this board for a while, so no member introductions ready.

1:11

No report apologies.

1:14

Thank you.

1:15

It's been it's been a rough couple months.

1:18

Um the public comment section.

1:20

I see we have a large group.

1:21

Uh is there an order that we want to go in or uh is there who's here would like to make a statement.

1:31

Okay, one, two, three, four, five.

1:35

Okay, the rest of you are more interested in this hearing information.

1:40

Um do we just do it based on who raised their hand first?

1:44

Ray's here, great.

1:45

I let him make a decision.

1:50

Ray, right?

1:51

I recommend over there or up there.

1:53

By the side, yeah.

1:55

Ray, we just started.

1:57

Um apologize for my lateness.

1:59

We are past member introductions, and we are ready for you for public comments.

2:05

We have five people that want to speak.

2:09

Again, let me apologize for my lateness.

2:12

Um I am Ray Delpesh.

2:15

I'm the president of the award, and um I welcome the comments.

2:22

Well, that was actually your job to figure out.

2:25

I would uh yeah, I would actually I believe sorry, sir.

2:29

I don't know your name, but I saw your hand first.

2:31

Um that's out of the corner of my eye, but I um this um right here.

2:36

The sign in sheets, and uh and we can make a note of who's who is asked to speak.

2:43

Yeah, Ray.

2:44

So I saw this gentleman's hand co-op first uh in the hat.

2:48

So uh if you if you're willing, sir.

2:50

Sure.

2:51

Yes, uh my name is Jeff Huber.

2:56

I just have a few things to say regarding this proposed this change.

3:01

Currently, to go to uh the Ashburn Metro and then the Metro to Ferrigo West, it's about eight dollars each way.

3:12

Uh it's not it's comparable to the cost of the commuter bus.

3:18

So for me, you go to the Ashburn Metro, it's a 20 to 30 minute drive.

3:24

It's a 60 minute ride on the metro to DC.

3:29

I get off at the Verygot West Metro Metro stop.

3:35

Uh you know, and it can be much longer than 60 minutes if the trains are single tracking, or if there's other problems with metro.

3:45

And then from the metro station, it's about a 20-minute walk from my office.

3:51

So it's approximately a two to two and a half hour commute one way for me to just use Metro.

3:59

Currently, I work seven to three.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Procedural█████████13%
Budget█████7%
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Economic Development2%
Transit Oriented Development2%
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Summary of Proceedings

Transit Advisory Board Business Meeting - November 18, 2024

The Transit Advisory Board (TAB) held its regular business meeting on November 18, 2024, at the Transit & Commuter Services Office in Leesburg, Virginia. The meeting was chaired by Ray Delpesche, who arrived late, and was led initially by Rushi Shah. A large public turnout was present, primarily to address rumors that the county's commuter bus service would be eliminated entirely. Staff and board members clarified that no such elimination was planned, and that only underperforming routes were being cut. The board approved the September 11, 2024 meeting minutes and the 2024 Annual Report, discussed the 2025 meeting schedule, and received updates on ridership, service changes, and a planned microtransit pilot.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of September 11, 2024 Meeting Minutes: Motion by Vlad Ovchynnikov, seconded by Dorri O'Brien, approved unanimously (10-0-1, Raine Terry absent).
  • Approval of 2024 Annual Report: Motion made and seconded, approved unanimously. The report includes accomplishments such as growth in local and paratransit ridership, recommendations passed at the May 2024 Transit Summit (fare-free local transit, defined paratransit service area, and suspension of commuter bus revenue neutrality), and future goals.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Jeff Huber: Commuter bus rider, expressed concern about losing service. He described his current commute (Ashburn Metro to Farragut West, costing $8 each way, 2–2.5 hours one way) and stated that without the commuter bus he would need to change work hours or drive, adding $245 per day in costs. He urged reconsideration of any route cuts.
  • Juan Romero: Commuter bus rider, asked for clarification on rumors that the contract with Kelios (expiring June 30, 2026) would not be renewed. He noted that the board waived cost neutrality, subsidizing 50% of service, and urged the board to ensure continuation.
  • Sandra (last name not given): Commuter bus driver for nine years, stated that two of her morning runs are being cut (averaging 2-3 riders). She reported that affected riders said they would switch to PRTC (out-of-county buses) and noted safety concerns on Metro, emphasizing the comfort and security of commuter buses.
  • Sean Cernay: Expressed relief that service was not being eliminated entirely. He highlighted economic and environmental benefits, and urged that if buses fill up, the county should add routes.
  • Patrick Fellows: Asked where the list of eliminated routes is published (Loudoun.gov/buschange).
  • Jennifer Rohrbach: Asked about the timeline for contract renewal (Kevin Gross responded that decisions must be made soon, as an RFP typically takes a year).
  • Ben (last name not given): Advocated for preserving the commuter bus as a premium service that attracted him to Leesburg. He urged long-term planning over short-term cuts.
  • Matt (last name not given): Stressed the importance of route choice and robust transit, noting that ridership growth through transit-oriented development takes decades. He asked for multi-year notice if major changes were coming.
  • Additional speaker: Asked about changing the revenue neutrality policy; Scott Gross explained it is a board policy and urged riders to contact their supervisors.

Discussion Items

  • 2025 Meeting Schedule: The board discussed holding one meeting per year at the Loudoun County Government Center for accessibility. A motion was made and seconded to hold the January 8, 2025 meeting at the Government Center, if possible, and to keep the regular dates (second Wednesday of bi-monthly months) for the rest of the year. Approved.
  • Staff Updates (Scott Gross):
    • Ridership: Commuter bus ridership is steady but low (average 19.8 riders per bus in 2024 vs. 40 pre-pandemic). Local bus ridership is increasing; paratransit is surging (24,000 rides projected this year, up from 13,000 two years ago).
    • Service Changes Effective December 2, 2024: 10 underperforming commuter bus trips (averaging less than 10 riders) are being eliminated. One new evening route is added. The Brambleton park-and-ride lot will no longer be served by buses, but the lot remains open for carpools. The Dulles Transit Center (1200 spaces, currently 200 cars) is available nearby.
    • Fare Increase: Commuter bus fares will increase by $1 on January 2, 2025. A second $1 increase was approved for 2026 but will be delayed to December 2025.
    • I-66 Toll Revenue: Six commuter trips are fully funded by I-66 toll grants, but overall the county subsidizes about 43-44% of commuter bus costs.
    • Microtransit Pilot: Planned for Leesburg (5.2 square miles), tentatively starting June 2025. Four buses will provide on-demand service within the town, using virtual stops and app-based booking. The pilot aims to test efficiency and public acceptance.
    • Metro Security: A board member raised anecdotal concerns about crime on Metro. Gross noted that crime is up on public transit nationally but that Metro ridership data does not show a disproportionate increase; many incidents involve homeless people at stations. Michael Kurtzke, a daily Metro rider, reported few personal issues.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved minutes of September 11, 2024.
  • Approved the 2024 Annual Report (to be forwarded to the Board of Supervisors).
  • Approved the 2025 meeting schedule with the January 8 meeting at the Loudoun County Government Center (pending availability).
  • Staff clarified that the commuter bus service is not being eliminated; only underperforming routes are cut, and the contract renewal process will begin soon.
  • Next meeting: January 8, 2025, at 7:00 PM, likely at the Government Center. Officer elections (Chair and Vice-Chair) will occur at that meeting.
  • Adjourned by motion.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, I believe I'm ready. Okay. So my name is Rush and Sean, the Ashburn district uh representative. And um always, as I said earlier, I was the former chair and vice chair. I've held that position for quite some time on this board. Uh I currently do not hold one, and I'm kind of keeping the seat warm for Ray, who will join us momentarily, but in the interest of time, we'll get started as we do have quorum. Um the first order of business is member introduction. We have a couple new members here. Uh do we have any? Yes. Michael, you want to my name's Michael Kurtsky. Uh, I'm born and raised in Ashburn, and I currently uh live at Metro Wall, right by the Ashburn Metro Station. So I take it into DC five, six days a week. Do that hour long slug commute, uh, but it still beats uh pay the tolls and the gas and that sort of stuff. So I currently don't own a car, so I get around London County completely via public traffic. Welcome. So Lorenzo, I don't know if are you new or no? No, okay. Um, and I believe everyone else has um been a member of this board for a while, so no member introductions ready. No report apologies. Thank you. It's been it's been a rough couple months. Um the public comment section. I see we have a large group. Uh is there an order that we want to go in or uh is there who's here would like to make a statement. Okay, one, two, three, four, five. Okay, the rest of you are more interested in this hearing information. Um do we just do it based on who raised their hand first? Ray's here, great. I let him make a decision. Ray, right? I recommend over there or up there. By the side, yeah. Ray, we just started. Um apologize for my lateness. We are past member introductions, and we are ready for you for public comments. We have five people that want to speak. Again, let me apologize for my lateness. Um I am Ray Delpesh. I'm the president of the award, and um I welcome the comments. Well, that was actually your job to figure out. I would uh yeah, I would actually I believe sorry, sir. I don't know your name, but I saw your hand first. Um that's out of the corner of my eye, but I um this um right here. The sign in sheets, and uh and we can make a note of who's who is asked to speak. Yeah, Ray. So I saw this gentleman's hand co-op first uh in the hat. So uh if you if you're willing, sir. Sure. Yes, uh my name is Jeff Huber.

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