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Loudoun County Zoning Ordinance Committee Meeting - September 4, 2025

Commissions & Advisory BoardsThursday, September 4, 2025
BodyLoudoun County, Virginia
SessionCommissions & Advisory Boards
DateThursday, September 4, 2025
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:00

Well looking for everybody to just hit middle of the road because they've never input anything.

0:05

Well, I think differently different 24 speeding.

0:11

Oh, sorry.

0:12

I'm sorry.

0:13

This is a lot of things.

0:16

And this is not his bill.

0:18

But maybe it's a staff of the year you recording.

0:22

Oh no.

0:26

Okay.

0:28

Oh, yeah.

0:31

Okay.

0:31

I'm going to get started here at nine o'clock.

0:34

Uh, and call the work of uh September 3rd Senate board committee.

0:42

Is there a public input today?

0:46

I would just like to have on the record the bubble submitted by the preservation conservation stakeholders for Equine from last year.

0:55

There was a four-page input and also two letters from land trusts, the land trust of Virginia and Northern Virginia Conservation Trust in support of the easement language in 2040 one and 2040.

1:13

Okay, when did you submit that?

1:15

No, they were submitted directly.

1:16

Oh last making sure that no, they were submitted in the last 24 hours.

1:25

Oh here's Kelly, she can do it herself now.

1:29

I was trying to make sure that we didn't last.

1:34

Do you want three minutes?

1:36

We're public and you want it.

1:40

You have three minutes.

1:41

I have three minutes.

1:42

Okay.

1:43

Um three minutes is up.

1:44

Three minutes is up.

1:45

Okay.

1:45

Well, sorry, God is on seven is very fun.

1:50

We are I'm stalling for you, Calvin.

1:52

Here are you?

1:54

Um you've all received what we wrote, and so hopefully that kind of has most of our information.

2:02

Um we have no seed.

2:03

Yeah, just when was that?

2:04

What didn't she yesterday morning?

2:08

Uh just and staff staff had small me on it.

2:17

I put everybody in the I was told.

2:20

It was at did you send it to add uh life history staff?

2:27

I'm trying to go ahead.

2:34

Um so we went through a lot of things, and we are very pleased that equestrian event from liveries removed from bags for and they now have their own use standards.

2:46

Um we are also very pleased right now that we're our setback has been reduced to the current agricultural setback of 60 feet.

2:54

Um and uh but we have several other concerns, and one that I did not get a chance, two that we didn't really get a chance to look at.

3:01

There you go, is um that um liveries don't appear as accessory uses to have any abilities to have shows, small shows, or um clinics, and that is a big part of our livery.

3:17

Liveries are probably our largest category of equestrian uses in the county, and right now a lot of them according to our um 2013 survey are 20 acres or less.

3:32

So to move them into a 25-acre um event center doesn't really work, and we the ones that we have that are 15 to 20 acres are going to be grandfather bothered in.

3:44

That's gonna be organized.

3:46

Um so one thing that we would like an accessory uses to be included is small one ring shows and um also clinics um in addition to the accessory uses that are listed in the in the definition.

4:00

Um the other things that we are concerned about is we've never saw before um a two-acre per horse stocking ring.

4:08

We don't see that that is a necessary thing.

4:10

I don't know where that came from and what the rationale is.

4:13

I totally understand it if it is for uh I know um agricultural animals that rely on pasture 24-7 as their sole source of nutrition, but in the horse world that's not the case.

4:23

Most horses that are even out 24-7, they are getting fed and brought in, and so they are not eating down the entire pasture.

4:30

We don't have to worry about horses not maintaining their weight or anything else by having that slightly less or just not having that in that both words came there.

4:40

Um again, if that is going to be the case, you're grandfathering in probably 90% of our liveries at this point.

4:46

That is going to um make them less sellable.

4:49

That is gonna not allow them to expand.

4:51

Um, so we really need to be considering that.

4:54

Um the um the other things that um we are very concerned about is a 12 foot um limit on light poles.

5:00

Um the other things that um we are very concerned about is a 12-foot um limit on light poles.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Floodplain Management█████████████████████████████████33%
Parks and Recreation████████████12%
Public Engagement███████████11%
Zoning Ordinance█████████9%
Procedural██████6%
Environmental Protection██████6%
Equestrian Regulations█████5%
Zoning Regulations█████5%
Recreation████4%
Summary of Proceedings

Loudoun County Zoning Ordinance Committee Meeting - September 4, 2025

The Zoning Ordinance Committee (ZOC) held a meeting on September 4, 2025, to discuss several zoning ordinance amendments and updates, including the Floodplain Ordinance Update, Western Loudoun Rural Uses and Standards (WLRUS), and various status updates. The meeting featured public comments from stakeholders representing equestrian, conservation, agricultural, and fox chasing interests. Key outcomes included a committee recommendation to initiate a legislative process to evaluate allowing active recreation in the major floodplain and direction to staff to draft language on accessory structures in floodplains.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Kelly Fultman (representing Preservation & Conservation Stakeholders for Equine) expressed support for recent changes (equestrian event facilities and livery setbacks reduced to 60 feet) but raised concerns about: lack of provisions for small shows/clinics as accessory uses for liveries; a proposed 2-acre-per-horse stocking rate that would grandfather 90% of liveries; a 12-foot light pole limit being too low for arenas; a 100-acre cutoff for equestrian events; and the need to simplify fox chasing regulation under private stables. She requested more time for the Loudoun County Equine Alliance to provide input.
  • Trinity Mills (Loudoun Wildlife Conservancy) strongly opposed any zoning changes permitting active recreation uses in the floodplain, citing environmental harm to wildlife habitat, water quality, and stream health. She stated that Loudoun's streams are already impaired and allowing active recreation would worsen conditions.
  • Unnamed farmer advocated for allowing farm worker housing (RVs) on agricultural properties and criticized restrictions on food processing and storage facilities, arguing that small farmers need flexibility to produce local food.
  • John Lovrove (fox chasing community) noted that seven hunts in the county place 30,000 acres into conservation easements and urged the committee to ensure fox chasing traditions can continue, suggesting private stables and kennel requirements would cover their needs.
  • Comment on public notice: A speaker highlighted that no public notice was provided for this meeting (no blog post, no county communication), making it difficult for stakeholders to participate. Committee members acknowledged the issue and said they would work with public affairs to improve notice.

Discussion Items

  • Disclosures: One member disclosed being an advisory council member of the Land Trust of Virginia.
  • Approval of Action Report: The Action Report for July 2, 2025, was approved.
  • Status Updates:
    • Data Center Standards & Locations (Phase 2): Moving forward to Board of Supervisors Business Meeting on September 16, 2025.
    • Zoning Ordinance Rewrite Adjustments #1: Timeline presented (Resolution of Intent to Amend on Sept 3, draft text to ZOC in Oct/Nov).
    • Department of Planning & Zoning Work Plan: Provided for information.
    • WLRUS: Project manager presented draft zoning ordinance text for review (various sections). Staff noted the public input time slot was intended for WLRUS but confusion existed; they will clarify with communications office.
    • Floodplain Ordinance Update: Main discussion item. Staff presented options regarding active recreation in the major floodplain and the RISCAR (River and Stream Corridor Overlay District).
  • Active Recreation in Floodplain:
    • Staff presented three options: (1) Remove active recreation as a permitted use in the major floodplain (existing parks become non-conforming with allowances for 25% expansion). (2) Revise comprehensive plan and zoning ordinance to allow active recreation in the RISCAR (requires legislative action). (3) Allow certain active recreation uses in major floodplain through a minor special exception.
    • Extensive debate occurred. Supporters of option 1 emphasized environmental protection, stream health, and consistency with the comprehensive plan. Opponents argued that existing parks and HOAs should be protected, and that a legislative process (option 4) could evaluate appropriate uses with performance standards.
    • A substitute motion (option 4) was made to initiate a legislative process to revise the comprehensive plan and Chapter 6 of the zoning ordinance to consider appropriate active recreation uses in the major floodplain with performance standards. This motion passed.
  • Accessory Structures in Floodplain: The committee directed staff to bring back language allowing certain low-impact accessory structures (e.g., playgrounds, gardens) in the floodplain, despite concerns about engineering costs and enforcement.
  • WLRUS Ad Hoc Committee: The chair announced formation of an ad hoc committee to review WLRUS materials between formal meetings. The committee will consider input from stakeholder groups.

Key Outcomes

  • Vote on Active Recreation Options:
    • Option 1: Failed (6 yes, 7 no).
    • Option 2: Failed (3 yes).
    • Option 3: Failed (no count given).
    • Option 4 (substitute motion): Passed (8 yes, 5 no). The committee recommends the Board of Supervisors initiate a legislative process to revise the comprehensive plan and zoning ordinance to evaluate appropriate active recreation uses in the major floodplain with performance standards.
  • Staff Direction: Staff will draft language for accessory structures in floodplains and bring it back for review.
  • Public Notice: Committee agreed to improve public notice for future meetings, particularly for the WLRUS project.
  • Next Meeting: October 1, 2025 – will include election of officers.
  • Adjournment: Meeting adjourned at approximately 11:00 AM.

Meeting Transcript

Well looking for everybody to just hit middle of the road because they've never input anything. Well, I think differently different 24 speeding. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. This is a lot of things. And this is not his bill. But maybe it's a staff of the year you recording. Oh no. Okay. Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm going to get started here at nine o'clock. Uh, and call the work of uh September 3rd Senate board committee. Is there a public input today? I would just like to have on the record the bubble submitted by the preservation conservation stakeholders for Equine from last year. There was a four-page input and also two letters from land trusts, the land trust of Virginia and Northern Virginia Conservation Trust in support of the easement language in 2040 one and 2040. Okay, when did you submit that? No, they were submitted directly. Oh last making sure that no, they were submitted in the last 24 hours. Oh here's Kelly, she can do it herself now. I was trying to make sure that we didn't last. Do you want three minutes? We're public and you want it. You have three minutes. I have three minutes. Okay. Um three minutes is up. Three minutes is up. Okay. Well, sorry, God is on seven is very fun. We are I'm stalling for you, Calvin. Here are you? Um you've all received what we wrote, and so hopefully that kind of has most of our information. Um we have no seed. Yeah, just when was that? What didn't she yesterday morning? Uh just and staff staff had small me on it. I put everybody in the I was told. It was at did you send it to add uh life history staff? I'm trying to go ahead. Um so we went through a lot of things, and we are very pleased that equestrian event from liveries removed from bags for and they now have their own use standards. Um we are also very pleased right now that we're our setback has been reduced to the current agricultural setback of 60 feet. Um and uh but we have several other concerns, and one that I did not get a chance, two that we didn't really get a chance to look at. There you go, is um that um liveries don't appear as accessory uses to have any abilities to have shows, small shows, or um clinics, and that is a big part of our livery. Liveries are probably our largest category of equestrian uses in the county, and right now a lot of them according to our um 2013 survey are 20 acres or less. So to move them into a 25-acre um event center doesn't really work, and we the ones that we have that are 15 to 20 acres are going to be grandfather bothered in. That's gonna be organized. Um so one thing that we would like an accessory uses to be included is small one ring shows and um also clinics um in addition to the accessory uses that are listed in the in the definition. Um the other things that we are concerned about is we've never saw before um a two-acre per horse stocking ring. We don't see that that is a necessary thing.

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