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FSM PRC Meeting (September 8, 2025) on Floodplain & Private Street Fund

Commissions & Advisory BoardsMonday, September 8, 2025
BodyLoudoun County, Virginia
SessionCommissions & Advisory Boards
DateMonday, September 8, 2025
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:01

Welcome everyone.

0:03

I'd like to call order the September 4th, 2025, the Sylvia Standards Manual Public Review Committee meeting.

0:10

No members are permitted or participating remotely.

0:14

And committee members disclose they are members of one or more affected groups, and their respective declarations of interest are kept on file in the minutes of the facility standards manual public review committee.

0:37

Everybody would have public comments, I think.

0:40

Correct.

0:40

All right.

0:49

Yes.

1:01

So the first thing I'm backing.

1:15

So it's working.

1:17

So this text was requested to be added under this bullet that talks about changes to the existing grade, removal of executive material and the declaration of no infection floodplain be reinstated by adding it as permitted examples, but not limited to in the no rise, no impact certification.

1:40

That's the suggested addition there.

1:48

Staff noted that FEMA is not capturing minor boundary changes that cannot be caught on the firm.

1:54

Do the scale and line thickness.

2:06

Oh uh blood insurance type.

2:08

Thank you.

2:10

I'd rather write it out because I don't think I use it anywhere else.

2:14

Um, instead of saying the five feet specific, just generalized that.

2:21

Um, and obviously staff can jump in too.

2:25

Making it wrong, please let me know.

2:27

Uh the next comment was here under the committee member inquired.

2:32

It goes on to say noting that driveway and private culvert crossings are addressed as a type one floodplain alteration, but not a floodplain study.

2:45

The benefit of using HECRAS with a type one floodplain alteration.

2:54

That here that's changed.

2:56

Um a committee member inquired if a type one floodplain alteration will be required.

3:01

The items previously submitted through the declaration narrative and FSN 5441, we're no longer going to be permitted under the new no rise or impact certification.

3:14

I might be going to be used for that.

3:17

Um type one would be required.

3:23

Items previously declaration.

3:25

We're no longer okay.

3:28

I got it, sorry.

3:29

I don't reach twice.

3:30

I got it.

3:32

And that's it.

3:33

So if everybody's agreeing for those changes, or if you have any other changes, we would need a motion to approve the minutes as an amendment.

3:46

Motion to go.

3:48

Thank you.

3:48

Is there a second?

3:50

Second.

3:54

Aye.

3:55

Opposed.

3:58

Minutes are approved.

4:12

Okay, we're gonna start off the meeting today with the continuing our conversation about chapter eight flood plan amendments.

4:22

Um try to stop cleanly at four o'clock so that we have adequate time to address the the 10-year private road reserve fund topic.

4:36

So two things.

4:37

One, I'm gonna introduce Gwen in just a minute.

4:39

She's gonna give me an update.

4:41

Um, but one, I wanted to let you all know, and I mentioned it in the email, but you didn't see it.

4:47

Um we are pausing our review of the chapter five clubs and then there were some questions that were raised at the July meeting, and staff is still following up, doing a research on those items.

5:00

So we uh I'd like you to move forward into chapter eight and go ahead and do that review, and when we're done with the chapter eight review, we're we're planning to circle back to the chapter five discussion.

5:10

So it's not gone, it's just pause for a little bit.

5:13

And then with that, I want to like candidate our natural resources provision manager provide an update on and look she was following up.

5:23

Yeah, so if you guys recall, um last meeting, there were some discussions about potential uses, um, interested in uses related to single family, multifamily accessory structures.

5:40

Um, and so I did bring that up to Zoc yesterday, so we had a ZOC meeting.

5:45

Um, and as part of that discussion, they did give us some direction to go back and look at that um to see if there's any potential language changes um for that to add basically things like dog houses, um gardens, like your Costco playground type of things.

6:07

So Megan had brought that up in the meeting, and part of our discussion was that there were anything related to Zoc that I would be the conduit to bring that forward, and so I had a conversation with the chair and vice chair, and so I brought it up in committee yesterday.

6:21

So um, yeah, so we are gonna as staff go back and look at that and evaluate it, and um, we are supposed to bring something back to Zoc at a later date.

6:31

Um, so we will be doing that.

6:33

And then um, there's just a generally also just let you know there was a discussion about active recreation and the floodplain um for that particular use.

6:44

Um I'm not exactly sure what the final motion was because generally what the final they didn't another a different option than what we had presented, but generally the final motion was to recommend to the board that um a legislative process begin to look at active recreation in both floodplain and risker associated with major floodplain.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Floodplain Management█████████████████████████25%
Zoning Ordinance██████████████████18%
Private Road Maintenance███████████████15%
Zoning Regulations██████████████14%
Engineering And Infrastructure███████████11%
Homeowners Association██████████10%
Procedural███3%
Stormwater Management██2%
Budget██2%
Summary of Proceedings

FSM PRC Meeting (September 8, 2025) – Floodplain Amendments and 10-Year Private Street Reserve Fund

Note: The agenda and transcript indicate the meeting was held on September 4, 2025, but the user specified the date as September 8, 2025. The summary below uses the September 8 date as instructed.

The Facility Standards Manual Public Review Committee (FSM PRC) met to discuss proposed amendments to Chapter 8 (Floodplain) and the interim implementation of a 10-year private street reserve fund. The meeting included approval of prior minutes, updates from the Zoning Ordinance Committee (ZOC), and detailed review of draft language and calculation methods.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved the minutes from the July 17, 2025 meeting with a motion, second, and unanimous vote (no opposition noted).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No members of the public spoke during the public comment period.

Discussion Items

Floodplain Amendments (FSM Chapter 8)

  • Staff (Gwen, Laura) presented redline changes to Chapter 8, primarily removing references to the former Floodplain Overlay District (FOD) and incorporating updated standards for floodplain studies and alterations.
  • Key changes included requiring floodplain boundaries on plats to be shown using the county’s Logis system unless an approved study or alteration exists; adding property owner notification requirements for floodplain study submittals (for both minor and major floodplain changes).
  • A lengthy discussion ensued over the timing and content of property owner notifications. Committee members expressed concerns about notifying owners before FEMA review of major changes, potentially causing confusion and multiple notifications. Staff clarified that the notification is intended to update the county’s maps promptly, separate from FEMA’s process. The committee agreed to defer the final wording of the notification requirement and requested a template to be developed by staff.
  • Staff also noted that the ZOC had recommended a legislative process to address active recreation in floodplains and resource protection areas (RPAs), but staff’s position was to align floodplain regulations with the existing Comprehensive Plan (allowing active recreation only in minor floodplains). This item was informational; no action was taken.

10-Year Private Street Reserve Fund

  • Staff (Laura, Jason) presented analysis comparing bond estimates from three real-world subdivisions with actual HOA reserve studies to determine a fair interim calculation for the required 10-year reserve fund.
  • Two main approaches were discussed:
    • 7% of the road-related bond estimate (covering scheduled maintenance like crack seal, concrete repair over the first 10 years, but excluding mill and overlay).
    • 14% of the bond estimate (including an annualized contribution toward a mill and overlay replacement around year 20-21).
  • The committee debated the interpretation of the zoning ordinance language (“established reserve fund sufficient for maintenance and repairs of the road for 10 years”). Some members argued the fund should be fully funded upfront; others argued it could be established with a smaller amount that would grow over time.
  • A sub-discussion focused on the practicality for small subdivisions (e.g., 10 lots), where large escrow amounts could be burdensome and might not be recoverable if the developer dissolves the LLC. The idea of a per‑square‑yard fee (e.g., $10 per square yard) was proposed as a simpler alternative.
  • Concerns were raised about who controls the escrow account and how funds can be accessed for emergencies. Staff suggested a third-party escrow agent with a defined release schedule based on HOA contributions.
  • No consensus was reached. The committee agreed to continue the discussion at the next meeting and requested additional data points from more subdivisions.

Key Outcomes

  • Minutes approved (unanimous).
  • Floodplain amendments: No vote; staff will bring back a refined property owner notification template for committee review at a future meeting.
  • 10-year private street reserve fund: No decision. Staff will gather more reserve study examples and propose a specific calculation method (percentage or per‑square‑yard) for the next meeting. The committee acknowledged that this is an interim solution pending a permanent fix through the zoning ordinance quick‑fix list.
  • Upcoming meetings: September 11 and October 2, 2025 (Sycolin Road topic).

Meeting Transcript

Welcome everyone. I'd like to call order the September 4th, 2025, the Sylvia Standards Manual Public Review Committee meeting. No members are permitted or participating remotely. And committee members disclose they are members of one or more affected groups, and their respective declarations of interest are kept on file in the minutes of the facility standards manual public review committee. Everybody would have public comments, I think. Correct. All right. Yes. So the first thing I'm backing. So it's working. So this text was requested to be added under this bullet that talks about changes to the existing grade, removal of executive material and the declaration of no infection floodplain be reinstated by adding it as permitted examples, but not limited to in the no rise, no impact certification. That's the suggested addition there. Staff noted that FEMA is not capturing minor boundary changes that cannot be caught on the firm. Do the scale and line thickness. Oh uh blood insurance type. Thank you. I'd rather write it out because I don't think I use it anywhere else. Um, instead of saying the five feet specific, just generalized that. Um, and obviously staff can jump in too. Making it wrong, please let me know. Uh the next comment was here under the committee member inquired. It goes on to say noting that driveway and private culvert crossings are addressed as a type one floodplain alteration, but not a floodplain study. The benefit of using HECRAS with a type one floodplain alteration. That here that's changed. Um a committee member inquired if a type one floodplain alteration will be required. The items previously submitted through the declaration narrative and FSN 5441, we're no longer going to be permitted under the new no rise or impact certification. I might be going to be used for that. Um type one would be required. Items previously declaration. We're no longer okay. I got it, sorry. I don't reach twice. I got it. And that's it. So if everybody's agreeing for those changes, or if you have any other changes, we would need a motion to approve the minutes as an amendment. Motion to go. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Aye. Opposed. Minutes are approved. Okay, we're gonna start off the meeting today with the continuing our conversation about chapter eight flood plan amendments. Um try to stop cleanly at four o'clock so that we have adequate time to address the the 10-year private road reserve fund topic. So two things. One, I'm gonna introduce Gwen in just a minute. She's gonna give me an update. Um, but one, I wanted to let you all know, and I mentioned it in the email, but you didn't see it. Um we are pausing our review of the chapter five clubs and then there were some questions that were raised at the July meeting, and staff is still following up, doing a research on those items. So we uh I'd like you to move forward into chapter eight and go ahead and do that review, and when we're done with the chapter eight review, we're we're planning to circle back to the chapter five discussion.

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