0:00Meeting Tuesday, January 20th.
0:02Would you call the roll, please?
0:08Commissioner Morrison?
0:10Mayor, we have three commissioners present.
0:12The quorum of three is met.
0:14Yeah, Jared, I'm Mayor Pro Tem.
0:21Would you find me in the Pledge of Allegiance?
0:26I pledge the agents through the flag of the United States of America.
0:31And to the Republic for which it stands.
0:33One nation under God.
0:37Liberty and Justice Paul.
0:44Next thing on our agenda is public comment.
0:47And before we start that, I would just like to make sure everyone in the audience knows that items A, B, and C from the general agenda have been moved to February 3rd.
0:58So if you're in the audience for that, those okay.
1:20Should I swing that up?
1:24Can't touch it at church.
1:28Messes with the audio somehow.
1:46I just want to take a minute and uh since I've not been able to attend previous meetings this year to welcome the new uh commissioners to the commission.
1:57I know that they and others have worked very hard to get elected.
2:02And uh I just want to say that uh we're gonna be watching, as you know, and I think I've said that to you privately.
2:09Um we're gonna make sure that you don't disappoint us.
2:13Uh there is uh there is a history of uh challenges uh for the taxpayer, and as I've said in the past, I wouldn't say that it's all the taxpayers, but I would say there is a significant number of folks that are struggling, they show up for the RR hearing just to voice their opinion, or at least they present themselves as struggling.
2:37Um I hope you don't think that I'm struggling, because I'm not.
2:41Um all the good people on the other side of the river get to pay my property taxes.
2:46And uh I would just ask that uh as you look at your decisions in 2025 and beyond.
2:53Um don't just ask the question, what are we spending, but ask the question because we're spending this.
3:02What are we saving for the taxpayers?
3:05I think tonight with the Mowers is a good example of asking that question.
3:10But uh thank you for your service.
3:13You've been here many, many years here in other positions.
3:18Uh I hope you think uh you don't think that any of this is personal for me because it's not, it's just a matter of uh being involved as citizens, and I know you encourage uh people to come up and voice their opinion because you want you want them to be heard, uh which is a little different than listening, but nonetheless it's semantics.
3:39Welcome and uh blessings in 2025 as you as you steer the city side and the citizen side 2026, off of here already.
3:49Any other public comment seeing none commissioner comments?
3:58Okay, I just say the the new exhibit at the Discovery Center is really fun.
4:02There was t uh there were a lot of people there for the opening.
4:05It's sort of a theme of science and mini golf, if you can put picture those two together.
4:11Okay, we'll move on to the consent agenda.
4:14Items on the consent agenda are those of a routine and housekeeping nature, which are items which have been previously reviewed by the city commission.
4:23Is there any comment from the public on the consent agenda?
4:34Is there the commissioners have any questions?
4:37Uh so I want to uh look at item G.
4:40I want uh I would like to remove that from the consent agenda and have that considered separately.
4:50Do you want to put that at the end of the regular agenda or do you just want to talk about that at the end of the consent agenda?
5:00Well, there's an item here after consent agenda for items removed consent agenda.
5:03So I assume that's where that's okay.
5:08It looks like we need a motion to approve the consent agenda except for item G.
5:16It's moved and seconded.
5:17Jared, would you call the roll?
5:22Commissioner Fox, yes.
5:23Commissioner Morrison?
5:25Motion passes three to zero with the exception of item G, which has been moved.
5:46So I would just say, since I asked for it to be removed, I'd like uh some explanation of what exactly it is uh we're buying and why we need $67,500 more of these mowers when we've already spent 205,000 uh in the last six months.
6:09So just uh bring a point of clarity 117,000 that was expensed was done from a grant that had no match.
6:19Uh so that was uh specific to that grant, and we purchased 23 mowers with that.
6:26Uh we are currently uh expanding our fleet uh as high as possible.
6:32These specifically will go to CECO, which will have a fully uh steel well specifically at SICO uh steel and pipe supply ball uh ballpark, which will be a fully automated system, including what's outside the park, which would be the uh storm drainage area that requires an all-wheel drive mower.
6:52Uh but the on-field uh mowing and the in-complex mowing uh would be achieved with automation as well.
6:59Uh that was not picked up in the grant.
7:02Uh this wasn't a location that was identified for automated mowing.
7:06Uh automated mowers work really well on sports facilities uh for two reasons.
7:11Um that is a higher level of maintenance care, and these mow pretty much every day, keeping the grass link the same, uh which is pretty important, especially when you're dealing with something like uh baseball, which requires uh a much shorter cut.
7:27Uh it does conserve our personnel resources.
7:30Umberg itself has saved probably at least 20 hours a week of seasonal employment that we struggle to find.
7:40Uh so rather than dedicating personnel to that area, we uh turn around and allow staff to accomplish other things that are needed while these mowers mow autonomously.
7:53I'm happy to answer any other question.
7:56Um so in the first purchase, we bought 23 mowers for 119,000.
8:03And the second purchase we bought nine mowers for 85,873.
8:09How many are we buying in this one?
8:10It's hard, uh it appears to me we're buying four for 675, but I may be wrong.
8:17Uh so I believe in this purchase there should be four.
8:19Two of them are the Sierras, the SIORs are the big ones, those are the 25,000 mowers.
8:24Um so, and then the uh the 550s are the smaller mowers, the all-wheel drive would be included.
8:30It's a version of the 550.
8:32Uh we did need to pick up two Cioras for the baseball fields because they are assigned to specific locations uh based on their acreage that they can cut.
8:41Uh last year we increased our uh our overall fleet to 34, and so this would be this year's, and we at this time we don't necessarily have a plan to purchase any others.
8:54Um, but part of what we're doing in these replacements is looking at the contracts that we pay for mowing or internal mowing and trying to create the best efficiency around that.
9:05So, how many are we buying here?
9:11So, how many contracts for mowing do we have that we don't do?
9:16That's a great question.
9:17I don't have that answer off the top of my head, but uh um last year we went through a major overall uh contract to put all the city contract mowing together uh for parks and rec specifically.
9:30Um there's several locations.
9:33Uh most prominent Douglas, uh Blue Earth Plaza, um the area outside of Blue Earth Plaza next to the depot, uh are several on there.
9:44So with 34 mowers plus four, 38.
9:52Well eliminate all major mowing contracts except for those small places?
9:57No, um we do plan on deploying several like Douglas.
10:00We do plan on deploying several, like Douglas.
10:01Here's another location.
10:03So we are working to deploy those to reduce down the contracts, but we won't be able to eliminate them.
10:11You have used people from Sunrise and Sunset Cemetery staff to mow other things in Park and Recks, right?
10:21So their primary care is both the cemeteries.
10:24Occasionally they've gone over and uh cared for areas right outside of uh sunset.
10:29So Girl Scout Park, etc.
10:31So I guess being new to this and and not seeing any presentations on these previous expenditures.
10:41I guess I'd like to see a more comprehensive presentation on how these things are all being used, where you know the size, uh how big are these, you know, $25,000 mower must be a pretty good size uh mower.
10:56Um sorry I didn't mean interact.
11:00We got a lot of parks.
11:01And you know, where are they all being used and how they being used?
11:04And I mean we're spending 273,000 dollars for mowers.
11:08Yeah, I think that's a great suggestion, and we're absolutely happy to bring that information back to you uh when we bring that presentation back.
11:16We can uh also get data on our acreage that we mow as long as our total contracting amount.
11:22So uh my recommendation would be to um table continue continue or um table this item until the February 3rd uh legislative meeting.
11:33Okay, would you someone like to move to table this item?
11:37I'd move to table this item and all second.
11:40It's moved to Jared.
11:41Would you call the role?
11:48Yes, Commissioner Morrison?
11:49Yes, Commissioner McCollow.
11:52Motion passes three to zero.
11:53Okay, we'll move on to the general agenda.
11:56And as I said, A B and C are have been removed till February 3rd.
12:00Sound like a long meeting.
12:04Letter D to consider Stonehaven addition unit three improvements.
12:11Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim.
12:14And Commissioners Brian Johnson, Director of Public Works, City Engineer.
12:17Uh, this item is for petitions for a new subdivision in the southwest quadrant of the city off of Miller Parkway in Amherst.
12:26Uh this is phase two of a project that started in about 2020, 2021, uh, with some road work, uh, park that the city was uh dedicated, donated, uh, dam trails, uh some uh BMPs, uh just the the total project that was put together for that subdivision.
12:49Uh this is the second phase of it, which includes some additional townhomes, additional roadways, water sewer main.
12:55It also includes some oversizing and some water main uh trunk mains that are gonna uh help Randy get water out of the Stag Hill booster and over to the Miller Parkway uh water tower.
13:08Uh the applicant is here tonight.
13:10They have submitted three position uh petitions, water, sewer, and street.
13:14All those petitions have been reviewed by our bond council, and they found them adequate.
13:19Um, we'll start with the street petition.
13:23So the street petitions are equal share per lot, 42 total shares.
13:27We are a lot owner, so we're 142nd owner in that petition.
13:32Salina Catholic Diocese is also a lot owner at 142nd.
13:35And just to give you reference, our lot is here where the Miller Park uh Miller Parkway tower sets, and then the Salina Diocese is here.
13:45They are stubbed out for a future street extension there.
13:49So we'd be a 140 second property owner, so uh Salina Diocese also would be 142nd.
13:55Costs are assessed 100% to property owners, so no city at large.
13:58We're not gonna do any oversizing, overwidening.
14:02We're not gonna add any trails here, so this is 100% developer.
14:06Approximate share our cost per share is about 41,000.
14:11Questions on the street petition?
14:14Questions on the street?
14:18This is the actual area in the petition here.
14:23Water petitions, uh, again, equal share, 49 total shares.
14:27City at large of 43.65% for oversizing the water main from our standard 8 inch to 16 inch for a future transmission main.
14:36Costs for that will be paid for by the water fund, and total approximate cost for those 43.65 shares is 412,000.
14:43That cost share is determined by city cost share policy, which was adopted by the commission in 2012, and that equates to our approximate cost per share of about 10,900 once you take that 43% out.
15:01Again, a future transmission main will go from Miller Ranch Tower down over here over the river through the woods under K18 and back to Stag Hill for a redundant feed to the Stag Hill booster station.
15:14I do have a question on that one.
15:16Your presentation says 49 total shares.
15:20Your petition only has 40 lots.
15:24Okay, I'll have to double check that.
15:26I thought there was 49.
15:27Lots one through 36 and then 48 to 51.
15:34I will double check that.
15:37So this is the water petition here.
15:42Any more questions on the water petition?
15:46Sanitary sewer petition, 41 total shares.
15:50Equal share again, city at large is 10.4%, and that's for a generator that will set down in this corner to pump uh sewage up over the hill and to the East Miller Ranch interceptor.
16:02That generator will run that lift station in case we have a power outage.
16:07Equates to about a 10.4% cost share in that.
16:10Cost share per share, approximately 15,000.
16:14The city's share is about 60,000.
16:16That will be paid for through the sewer fund.
16:20So questions on that one.
16:23Again, on that one, I count 42 lots looking at the petition, and you show 41.
16:29I'll double check those.
16:34The applicant is here if you have questions, or I'll stand for questions if you have any.
16:39Perhaps the applicant could clear up the numbers.
16:43Yeah, actually that would be in the resolution also, which we could pull up, but yeah.
17:04Good evening, Brad Trimble with uh Benish uh consultant representing the uh the developer.
17:10Um I was going through the petition series.
17:12You're talking there, and you're correct on the the number count as far as the the number of lots that you rep uh noted.
17:20So it's 40 uh on the the water, it is lots 136, one through 36 and 48 through 51, and then on the sewer it is lots one through 36 and 46 through 51.
18:01So what do we have in the end?
18:06And those are represented in the green.
18:08I don't know if I can so the lots that are highlighted in green represent the the lots that are beneficiaries of the the water line.
18:27So there'll be a water line run in parallel to the the street that will service all the lots adjacent to that street, then a lot will or uh sorry, excuse me, a line will run down the cul-de-sac, and that will service this cul-de-sac.
18:46So a couple questions on uh just probably involve you and how this was split between them.
18:52Uh as you can see, there are several duplexes that are probably smaller, relatively smaller townhomes, I would guess in the 300,000 range.
19:01And then you get into the big lots over there, those are probably going to be half a million to three quarters of a million, and they're they all have equal cost of their infrastructure.
19:16That is correct, it's a one per share.
19:18Uh so each lot is uh a shareholder to that petition.
19:24Regardless of the size of regardless of the size size of the the unit.
19:28Yeah, when we sent this to Bond Council Commissioner, we had the same question.
19:33Uh although these lots are significantly bigger, the buildable area is very small on them.
19:37You can see the contours here.
19:40This is a big cliff, and so the buildable area of each of these lots is about the same.
19:45But we have the same questions.
19:49So just some general questions about special assessments, and I know we've done it for 50 years.
20:05I had about 70,000, yeah.
20:08One question would be those are the costs of these.
20:11By the time we get to bonding.
20:14Is that 70K is total?
20:16That's interest bonding, insurance, that's everything.
20:20That's that's a question.
20:22So at that price, then the specials would be roughly, I don't know, 5,000 to 5500 per year.
20:32Be close to 35 to 4.
20:39We we expect the buyers of these lots to pay the specials.
20:44Yes, that's correct.
20:45Uh what effort is made on the part of the city to make sure that the buyers of these lots know that they're paying 67,500 for their infrastructure when they buy these lots.
21:04I'd during my campaign, I had a lot of uh complaints from people in new areas that knew nothing about their specials, or maybe they did and they just told me they didn't.
21:16But good evening, commissioners.
21:20Rena Neil, Director of Finance.
21:22So with the special assessment process, the first process will be once we issue temporary notes, and then that'll be about a three, three and a half year time frame.
21:34Well, then after that, we'll issue bonds.
21:37And that time frame starts in January.
21:39So if we're going to issue temporary notes, say in June of this year, um, that'll be three, three and a half years from now.
21:46So 2029, maybe 2030, we will then begin to notify property owners that there are special assessments that are on the property.
21:57We send out a notice of public hearing letters, they have the opportunity to come to the city commission for a public hearing to learn about the special assessments as well.
22:06During that time frame, however, there are the sale of lots, and so a lot of realtors and the developers do contact the city to ask for the estimated special assessments, and we do provide that information to them during that time frame.
22:20So also, Commissioner, once you pass these resolutions, these resolutions then go to the county.
22:26They'll be filed against these lots on the plat.
22:28So anybody that does a title search on that lot on that plat will get these resolutions with them.
22:37I don't know what our legal uh approach is to all this regarding potential buyers, but it just seems like we as a city need to make a better effort to the buyers that these expenses they'll have when they buy these properties.
22:56You raise a very valid point, and I think a lot of times people don't realize what specials add up to or they're cognizant of the fact they're specials, but then they get their tax bill and they think the city is charging them you know property tax for the cost of that special and um I'm not sure what the city could do, particularly perhaps the county uh uh register of deeds could put a giant sign on their their deed.
23:20Um but you know, one thing that we have uh discussed in the past is whether the city should go in and put all that infrastructure in before.
23:30And we have basically started doing that when we had developers who didn't have the capital to develop more than say two houses at the time.
23:39Made a lot of sense to put in the infrastructure for eight to ten houses and then charge it back as specials.
23:46This does um come back to the bond, and that the debtedness of the you know, and while we are not uh in a problem unless we had one major um debtor not come through, the one on north south wreath.
24:05Um but it is you know it's it's something that we could bring up and discuss.
24:10Um most of our developers in town now are very capable of doing multiple units at once.
24:18Well, my question is why do we wait three years to bond it?
24:22I mean, once you know what you did is you can bond it any time.
24:26And I think the discussion goes to we don't have any specials anymore.
24:31The developer pays for it, puts it in, it's accountable, and I'll tell you, I think they're a lot more attentive, and I I don't know, but I think we're only one of four or five in Kansas that uses specials.
24:43Yeah, I don't know what that number is.
24:45I know that there's a like you said, a half dozen, maybe over the past ten years.
24:50We've done roughly 75 million dollars of petitions, so this is not uncommon for us to do, but we can certainly come back and do a work session on petitions and uh get you educated and then you can make your decisions.
25:02I think there's two parts.
25:03One is why do we wait three years to bond it?
25:07We can buy interest rates, I think we can you know look for that.
25:12Um it certainly doesn't take three years to bond it once we have a project that's defined.
25:19So we can issue temporary notes for up to three and a half to four years.
25:24Um, in the past we've been issuing them for that long period of time to allow for the developer to be able to market and sell the lots, and because of the interest rate was low on those temporary notes and the issuance of the bonds.
25:37So if that was to flip, then we would issue the temporary the bonds earlier.
25:43It is also expensive to to have bonds, and so you don't want to do it for each little pile.
25:50Well, we were told it had flipped that temporary bond now more expensive than that long term as far as rates.
26:00But when the developer requests to issue um the petitions for the special assessments, that is usually their ask is to have those up to three and a half, four years.
26:12So we can look at issuing the bonds earlier.
26:14As of right now, we don't have any temporary notes outstanding to issue for special assessments.
26:21Um, but once this particular issuance goes forward, we can review it and come back with that information.
26:29So, what benefit does it do the city to be the financier for developers?
26:35I'll I'll defer to the management for that to Jason for that.
26:48Yeah, before we get into that, uh I I would look to Brian.
26:52The infrastructure itself is usually 18 to 24 months to get in place and know the actual costs.
27:00So we a year would maybe be the difference between a project actually being ready to fully bond with streets, water, sewer, and storm versus the three and a half year window that you have.
27:18So I do think we have presentations and information from probably a three or four different points in time in the last 25 years where the commission has asked these questions, and we've engaged with a history with an understanding of how they work, the positives, and the negatives of doing so.
27:41I think overwhelmingly the positives have put developers in a position with local builders to be able to spread the inventory of available lots that you can react and have construction take place on a fairly um rapid pace.
28:02Couple different instances in Manhattan's history where the Fort Riley has grown.
28:09Special assessments and benefit districts have put us in a position where a lot of inventory can be built at one time without leveraging a local developer to go to a bank and borrow a lot of money.
28:23There are a lot of local developers and builders who would contend they wouldn't be in this industry without special assessments.
28:30Now, again, these the circumstances may have changed, the finances may have changed, but a lot of them will give us the feedback.
28:37You're gonna see more developers out of Wichita and Kansas City come to Manhattan, wait for that pent-up demand and put that large scale development in place versus the 10, the 20, the 30 lot subdivisions that we've been rolling out consistently for quite some time.
28:55I do think we can provide you data.
28:57I think we can bring the information to the table, get that guidance and direction from the commission and have a dialogue with developers and builders in the community, pros, cons, and really see what direction you want to go moving forward.
29:13The the topic has been frustrated for a lot of people in the community.
29:19Uh we we've had a lot of people buy lots, buy their homes.
29:25Two years later, they get a special assessment.
29:27And they didn't even they honestly just didn't realize it was even going to be there.
29:32It's gonna shift that $60,000, $70,000 per lot back to the developer to negotiate for that land sale.
29:41Um our lot costs in Manhattan will bring that data for you as well.
29:46Um they used to range $30,000, 40,000, $50,000 a decade or two ago.
29:51They're they're edging up towards $100,000 in Manhattan today.
29:56And you're gonna you're gonna need to account for that infrastructure cost and that potential future lot cost as well.
30:03So I think philosophically they've been around to keep the housing industry moving and growing in Manhattan.
30:12Maybe we've realized that point in time where the taxpayers, this entity, no longer needs to be that financial arm to allow that infrastructure to go in.
30:23It will shift that burden.
30:26Well, I'm not out to change course tonight on how we do things.
30:41Roger Schultz was developing, I believe, at the time Rena and I met with a group down at the conference center.
30:47It was like right when it first opened.
30:48So it'd been 2012, 2013, filled all filled the room.
30:52A lot of feedback, a lot of perspectives.
30:54I'm not saying we have to do that again, Commissioner Fox, but there's just a lot of people that are involved with this industry.
31:05At that point in time, I I kind of thought we were teetering towards doing away with them.
31:11But every so often we need to go back through that and have that conversation and get that direction.
31:16So I was doing home lending in the 70s when Candlewood edition first started, and that's one of the first I remember of special assessments.
31:25And it took a long time for that development to take off.
31:30And so and the infrastructure is important.
31:36We have a lot of resources internal to this organization dedicated to this task.
31:49Give them an opportunity to talk about how hard it is to get into some of these areas in our community and expand a footprint into the residential world.
32:02But on the same hand, we've been doing this for 30 plus years.
32:13Well, the conversation started what should the city do to warn people.
32:20In that industry of construction, development, sales, every one of those people have a liability to their customers, and they all know exactly within $100 a year and what specialists are going to be.
32:33So I don't feel guilty that the city has done anything wrong in not telling buyers that they're going to get whacked two, three, four years down the road.
32:43If there's somebody going to get whacked, it's the developer and the realtors that are handling it.
32:48Because I know the title people, when you get a title policy, have it right on there.
32:53And the county has it as a registered document.
32:56So I don't think the city has liability for any of that.
33:01It's the people that we've been aiding and trying to develop those things, responsibility, contractors, the builders or the developers and the and the real estate people, not the city.
33:14Because they can have access to the information if they take the time and energy and responsibility to do their job.
33:20And I I would concur with you, and I think the loan officer in Commissioner Fox's scenario, though those individuals end up realizing what that special assessment is going to be before you close because it's in the documentation.
33:34They know it's going to be due.
33:36They've done their due diligence and they understand that full breakdown of costs that are escrowed and what is accumulated on a monthly annual basis.
33:45And it's absolutely involved.
33:48A lot of home buyers don't realize it till the day of closing when they get their full settlement statement, then it's in there, and then they wonder what that is.
33:57And then they start asking the questions.
34:01Don't disagree with you, Commissioner Morrison.
34:03But again, there's a lot of information.
34:06There's a lot of perspectives.
34:14And they have been to the advantage of commercial districts, development opportunities where we have spread cost over time.
34:27And it existed and helped to get adjacent properties to participate in an expansion of a major corridor in our community.
34:36So I don't think the tool is all like throw it out, but I do think there's an education that needs to be had in it in a discussion on the pros and cons.
34:48Well, I know you know Commissioner Morrison commented it doesn't affect the city.
34:52Well, we as Karen said, we did have an instance where it did affect the city.
35:00We got the lots back, and then we end up paying the developer 260,000 to take them off our hands.
35:03So yeah, yeah, Lee Mill Village.
35:06I'm I'd be happy to give you a history lesson on that at some point in time.
35:10Um there were you know, we had a just a defunct developer, and and when they have that many lots that were slated for townhomes, um obviously the the market couldn't support them.
35:23Uh so that Missouri based developer picked up and left, and the city has been wrestling around with them since 2017.
35:32I think we're finally free of of all that land, it's actively being developed.
35:37Uh, but it took nine years to get to a point where we're not paying special assessments anymore on that property.
35:45But total in for the taxpayers is significant.
35:48I mean, it's hundreds of thousands of dollars the taxpayers have had to pick up and go into that district and and shore it up and get it to a point where it's back on the tax rules.
36:04Thank you very much.
36:06It is an interesting discussion.
36:07Um, do we have anyone in the public that would like to make a comment on this?
36:18Uh entertain a motion.
36:21So I would move to find let's see, find the petition sufficient, approve resolution number 012026A, 012026b, and 012026C finding the projects advisable and authorizing construction for Stonehaven Unit 3 improvements, ST 2516, WA 2513, and SS 2512.
36:49What question with the just the correct lot numbers?
36:53Yes, Commissioner Morris.
36:55Yeah, Commissioner Morrison, we verified that the resolution is correct.
37:01Would you call the roll, please, Jared?
37:04Commissioner Morrison.
37:06Commissioner McCullough.
37:09Motion passes three to zero.
37:13Now we're on to consider increase to a construction contract amount, Anderson Avenue from Harris Avenue to Connecticut Avenue, water streets and stormwater improvements project.
37:25Well, thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.
37:28Uh this item is to add some storm sewer work, some inlets along Anderson Avenue from about where they're at now, east towards Lee School.
37:37Uh a total about 14 inlets in total.
37:40We want to rebuild while we're there and while we're doing construction.
37:43I also want to take this opportunity though to give you and the public an update on where we're at, kind of where we're headed and what to expect over the next several months.
37:51So this is the project management team.
37:53Karen Becker, our principal engineer, is here with us tonight.
37:56Uh Whitney is our project manager with Lighthouse Construction.
38:00She unfortunately couldn't make it tonight, but she's been a key and instrumental person in the project so far.
38:08So overview of the project.
38:10What drove the project?
38:11Well, primarily we had a series of water line breaks along Anderson Avenue over the well, since my since I've been here, uh about two or three a year from Lee School all the way down to Connecticut.
38:22Uh that infrastructure was put in the ground somewhere in the 30s and 40s when Anderson Avenue was two lane.
38:30Uh we also had a joint deterioration at concrete pavement on Anderson Avenue, Anderson Avenue, the inside lane, we think was constructed in the 50s to 60s, and then that outside lane in the late 60s, early 70s.
38:42So you're talking about 60 to 70 year old infrastructure, water mains getting close to 100 years.
38:48Uh secondary, we also wanted to do some improvements on the side streets.
38:52We did quite a bit of street maintenance in the Bellhaven area.
38:56Oh gosh, probably 10 years ago, but we did not get too close to Anderson because we knew this project was coming, so while we were there, we wanted to finish those tie-ins there right off Anderson.
39:05Uh it also helps provide us with a crosstown water main again.
39:09Uh Randy is looking to put some additional water main in the ground for some trunk mains between the zoo and um the zoo and sequel sequencing, excuse me.
39:23Uh we also want to incorporate a little bit better sidewalk system, especially on that south side, uh, where we can expand to about seven feet.
39:31So again, overview, water main was the main drivers.
39:34Uh Anderson Avenue was a six and four-inch water main constructed mainly in the 40s and 50s, lots of maintenance breaks.
39:41Uh, I mean, I'm sure you drive Anderson, you know, about two or three a year.
39:46Uh, our current city man is minimum standards that's eight-inch ductile iron.
39:50That was six and four inch, so we had um quite a bit of maintenance issues.
39:54So the benefit of the replacement is obviously new pipe reduced maintenance, also with the larger diameter.
40:00Also with the larger diameter, we get increased pressure and fire flow.
40:04So we had a bid letting November 5th of 2025.
40:08Two bidders, buyer construction was a low at 10.1 million, and Ogilneck was second low at 13.5.
40:15Commission awarded that contract to buyer in November of 25, and then in June of last year, we issued a notice to proceed.
40:28So the current work is in the red, it's on those future eastbound lanes on Anderson between Timber Lane and Connecticut.
40:34That red is just about done.
40:36They're going to be doing some switching, some phase switching here within the next three or four weeks where they'll switch it out to the south side, they'll start working on the north side.
40:45Then they're going to also start working on phase A or 2A, excuse me.
40:50So this is our next phase change here.
40:53That future westbound lane, the eastbound lanes you'll be driving on then, those new lanes, new sidewalk, new driveways.
41:00We anticipate sometime in February of 2026, weather permitting.
41:05So to the curb inlets.
41:07Most of these were cast in place in the 1970s on those outside lanes of Anderson.
41:1255, 60 year old infrastructure.
41:15Got lots of deterioration after pavement demolition.
41:19Lots of broken corners on sides and castings.
41:22Basically, that slab was holding those inlets together.
41:25Once you pull that slab apart, it's kind of a house of cards.
41:28They all started coming apart.
41:30And then also the concrete apron, those conditions of those uh aprons were in poor shape also.
41:36So here's a picture of kind of what happened as we remove this pavement around here.
41:41That pavement was kind of holding those things together, uh just squishing them together.
41:46Once we took them out, there's no support in them.
41:48Edges broke, sides broke, lots of deterioration.
41:54Again, another another piece that is uh in poor shape.
41:58This is actually looking inside of the manhole, and you can see this whole interior wall is gone or deteriorated, eroded.
42:06Um really in poor shape.
42:09So the base bid on this, we had about 10 new inlets in the base bid.
42:14Uh, we're requesting another 14 inlets to be replaced.
42:19Uh we have talked with the contractor, they are willing to hold their bid prices, so we are never going to get it cheaper than we're gonna get it now because we have a 10 million dollar project there that this was bid with.
42:31So that would lead us to a total of 37 new total inlets.
42:36Again, the funding summary, original contract of 10.1 million.
42:40We've used a little bit of contingency to date, about 1% of the contract total.
42:45Uh, our request tonight is to include those other inlets and tops for a total of 266,000 additional.
42:52So our new contract amount would be 10.49.
42:57Then here's our schedule as we look out through 2026.
43:00Obviously, we're in this area here.
43:03We're getting very close to switching traffic control switch, we'll do some uh demolition, waterline installations, backfill rock, paving sometime around May, and then that phase 2A also be kicking off here shortly, uh, and then we'll move to some pavement removal later this uh spring and summer.
43:23Overall, we anticipate the project to be done early fall of 2027, but that's not all of Anderson.
43:30There's a lot of side work that also happens too.
43:32So we're talking project total uh Anderson and all the additional roadways.
43:39We do have a dedicated uh website for this project.
43:43We update it weekly or every other week.
43:45Uh this is the best place to get up-to-date information.
43:50And with that, I'll stand for questions.
43:52And the contractor is here, also if you have questions.
43:59So just be clear on that 2A, they're going down, continuing down the south side of Anderson with piping.
44:07And then one B, they're going down the north side.
44:13Of Anderson with just street pavement.
44:17There's some utility, but it's not the majority of the work is on the south side.
44:23Uh as we get closer to 2A, maybe around April, we may come back before you.
44:27We have been talking to the contractor about a full closure this summer while our counts are down, while our roadway counts are down.
44:34We believe it could cut significant time off the project, also lead to some potential savings.
44:40We've just started having those conversations, and I don't want to promise you anything that I can't deliver, so I'm gonna tell you that uh if those provide some fruit and if we think we're uh be able to cut some time off this project and save us some money, we may be back before you.
44:55That would be great.
44:57This is really a corridor for the high school lee school K-State.
45:00This is really a corridor for the high school lee school K State, so if we can get through that May time frame, we think we can probably close it and not really impact the other east-west arterials in the city.
45:10Jim, did you have I don't look at construction documents?
45:15I don't think that's my job, but asking the question probably is when we get done.
45:21Will we have enough infrastructure of water lines going across so we don't dig it up three weeks after we pour the last concrete?
45:29Because I would think we'd be stubbing in access to other lines.
45:35I can I can speak for my infrastructure.
45:37Yes, we'll be in good shape.
45:39What concerns me is that north half has a lot of fiber optic in it, and I really hope ATT doesn't break or lose fiber optic or cable.
45:48That north side is just chock full of utilities, and I really worry about.
45:52Well, we had a water main break on Walters Drive just a couple of days ago.
45:57We just milled an overlaid Waters Drive in August.
46:02It's in this case it'd be very unusual because this is all new.
46:05My bigger concern is ATT and Cox and Kansas Gas because they're all on that north side.
46:12Are they within the city right away?
46:14They're actually under the slab because that right-of-way is so tight through there.
46:18Anderson used to be state highway, so the right of way is really, really tight through there.
46:22As I'm sure his buyer will let you know, it's very uh very tight construction area, but uh that's my bigger concern.
46:30Well, that's why we hired the best, right?
46:32Well, it is low bid, and I'll just leave it at that.
46:36Lowest and best bid.
46:42Is there anyone from the audience who'd like to make a statement or ask a question?
46:50Seeing none, motion my turn.
46:58I was so moving the approvement of the adjustment for these 14.
47:03I believe he said new inlets.
47:06It stood right there in the blue.
47:10Right, all of those that are said out there in the blue action section.
47:14I don't believe I need to read it all, but 266,000 21 dollars and forty cents proposal, that resolution 012026D.
47:28Is that good enough?
47:34Jared, would you read the Commissioner McCullough?
47:40Commissioner Fox, yes, Commissioner Morrison?
47:43Motion passes three to zero.
47:48I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
47:53And I certainly second.
47:55All in favor say aye.
47:58Thank you very much.