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Manitowoc Plan Commission Reviews Warming Shelter Conditions and Zoning Code Rewrite – September 15, 2026

Common Council & Committees — Tuesday, September 15, 2026
BodyManitowoc, Wisconsin
SessionCommon Council & Committees
DateTuesday, September 15, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:10

Mr.

0:10

Scheinbrenner, how are you certainly Thursday morning?

0:15

So it's probably already pretty orange.

0:18

Enjoy you better.

0:38

Yeah, okay.

0:52

How are we?

0:53

Oh man.

0:55

You got me.

1:04

Everyone ready, good.

1:06

All right.

1:07

It is five o'clock.

1:08

We will call the plan commission meeting to order at this time.

1:11

Thank you for those in attendance.

1:13

Dave Dietrich is the only one not in attendance, but he is exc.

1:16

Oh, uh Bill Schley is the other one too.

1:18

Sorry, now that I think of it.

1:19

Bill Schley and Dave Dietrich are the two who are excused from the meeting.

1:23

Thank you for making the special meeting.

1:36

The reason I called this meeting, I think I said in the email, was just to make sure that we have clarification on a few items.

2:01

So uh Paul put together um the conditional use permit and the uh conditions that we uh put on that.

2:08

If you recall at the last meeting, items N and O were uh pretty specifically clear to or uh uh clear as to just eliminating them completely.

2:17

Just wanted to have a conversation on that.

2:19

Uh um again, that was pretty clear to have those two.

2:23

The one that kind of um was uh unknown or or uh not clear was item C.

2:31

Um and that was the total number of of unhoused individuals allowed at the location during the winter.

2:38

So um uh just wanted to get clarification from the commission as to what our true intent was.

2:46

Um again, N and O were pretty clear just to eliminate.

2:49

Um C is the one where uh talked about um the total number, and we we were talking back and forth about sending it back to staff.

3:00

Um building inspection, police fire um as to what their recommendation may be.

3:06

Um there's different interpretations of what the recommendation could be uh versus uh based off of different criteria.

3:14

We just want to make sure we get the plan commission's um true intent with what what we want.

3:19

So uh Paul, I don't know if you want to add anything.

3:23

Um well, just on what I handed out, and everybody in the galley has the same thing.

3:27

These are the exact same conditions prior to last meeting, like the mayor said, the areas in red were kind of the ones that just want to clarify it.

3:37

Um all in these conditions were identical to last year's location on State Street.

3:45

So and to note these were the conditions that um were requested as well to be pretty much the same as last year.

3:55

There was uh we had conversations offline about what to expect, but the the request was pretty much similar to or exactly the same as what they're doing.

4:05

There are exactly the conditions that the warming shelter followed last year.

4:09

Yeah, so just want to make that clear.

4:12

Again, though, the the motion that was approved was very clear on N and all, just eliminate completely.

4:18

That was that was pretty clear.

4:20

So if that's what you want to continue with, at least that was clear.

4:23

Um the one that was questioned was was C really.

4:27

Um anything you want to add on you summed it up.

4:33

Yeah, okay, nicely.

4:37

Um so the statistics that they were keeping last year, I think there were two people that were not able to use the services.

4:47

That's I believe uh I don't know if we added the did we add their information to the let me just drag Ritz downloading one second.

5:00

Yeah, we could I just want to their um request.

5:02

Let me just get to where it was the the information that they provided that we asked for was you know how often are you full, this or that.

5:11

Um fast facts was uh it says here somewhere uh Matt, do you remember or I just sorry you want 76 day affecting two indications?

5:36

Oh, so the 76th day, which was the item and that was affected two people.

5:43

There you go.

5:44

That's is I think that's what we were looking, or that's what you're referencing, yes.

5:47

Well, I'm trying to see if we can set a number of uh the number at something that's not just arbitrary, we feel this or we feel that, and so that's where I'm that's where I'm a little stuck because state law says we can't really be arbitrary.

6:08

Um so that's where I was looking to maybe bump it up by two to satisfy that, but it's a little different scenario.

6:19

Thank you.

6:20

Yeah, Dan.

6:21

Can I just I'm a little fuzzy on this?

6:23

So after the last meeting, we we pretty much voted on N and O, so are we not discussing those right now?

6:29

Are we only discussing C?

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
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Zoning Code█████████████████████████████████████37%
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Summary of Proceedings

The Manitowoc Plan Commission met on Tuesday, September 15, 2026, at 5:00 PM in Council Chambers and via Zoom to clarify its recommendation on a conditional use permit for the warming shelter and to discuss the zoning code rewrite. Commissioners Bill Schley and Dave Dietrich were excused. The Commission forwarded a recommendation to the Common Council, which was scheduled to consider the matter the following Monday, September 21, 2026.

Warming Shelter Conditional Use Permit – Conditions N and O

  • The meeting was called to confirm the Plan Commission’s intent after the August 26, 2026 Plan Commission meeting, where members appeared to favor eliminating conditions N and O from the permit.
  • Those conditions were part of the same set of conditions used the prior year for a location on State Street. Pastor Sauer indicated the shelter does not currently have an alternative system ready to replace those conditions.
  • 2025 statistics were discussed: the shelter was reportedly full on the 76th night, and two people were affected on that occasion.
  • Some commissioners, including Hornung, argued that the Plan Commission’s purview is land use, not operational shelter details, and expressed support for removing N and O. Others raised concerns about a new gas station near the location, the possibility that other municipalities could rely on Manitowoc if the 76-night limit increased, and the shelter’s ability to manage a different system.
  • City Attorney Eric Nycz advised that the city has legal authority to impose conditions and that, as long as the shelter is under the approved number and meets code, the condition is permissible.
  • A motion to eliminate N and O was discussed, but the final motion supported approval of the permit as presented, with all conditions retained.
  • The Plan Commission’s recommendation was forwarded to the Common Council, which could accept or change it at its September 21, 2026 meeting.

Zoning Code Rewrite Update

  • The Commission reviewed the draft zoning code rewrite, including eliminating Chapter 15 and clarifying definitions.
  • The new code is expected to define “warming shelter” more clearly and to update transitional housing definitions so that shelters fall under the appropriate use category.
  • No pending project or state-mandated deadline requires completion by a specific date, giving the Council time to review.
  • Commissioner comments and edits were forwarded to consultants Dominic and Tim. Dominic was expected to attend the following week’s meeting to discuss the draft further.
  • Public outreach plans were discussed, including whether a city-wide zoning change requires public hearings in every affected area. Newspaper notice for the entire code change was anticipated, and the Commission asked to publicize changes affecting neighborhoods citywide, including smaller lots, flexible setbacks, and the “cottage concept” example from Sheboygan.

Key Outcomes

  • The Plan Commission recommended approval of the conditional use permit with the existing conditions, including N and O, rather than removing them.
  • The Common Council was expected to consider the conditional use permit recommendation on Monday, September 21, 2026, and could modify or accept it.
  • The zoning code rewrite will continue with consultant coordination; commissioners were asked to submit additional edits, and the next consultant meeting was scheduled for the following week.

Meeting Transcript

Mr. Scheinbrenner, how are you certainly Thursday morning? So it's probably already pretty orange. Enjoy you better. Yeah, okay. How are we? Oh man. You got me. Everyone ready, good. All right. It is five o'clock. We will call the plan commission meeting to order at this time. Thank you for those in attendance. Dave Dietrich is the only one not in attendance, but he is exc. Oh, uh Bill Schley is the other one too. Sorry, now that I think of it. Bill Schley and Dave Dietrich are the two who are excused from the meeting. Thank you for making the special meeting. The reason I called this meeting, I think I said in the email, was just to make sure that we have clarification on a few items. So uh Paul put together um the conditional use permit and the uh conditions that we uh put on that. If you recall at the last meeting, items N and O were uh pretty specifically clear to or uh uh clear as to just eliminating them completely. Just wanted to have a conversation on that. Uh um again, that was pretty clear to have those two. The one that kind of um was uh unknown or or uh not clear was item C. Um and that was the total number of of unhoused individuals allowed at the location during the winter. So um uh just wanted to get clarification from the commission as to what our true intent was. Um again, N and O were pretty clear just to eliminate. Um C is the one where uh talked about um the total number, and we we were talking back and forth about sending it back to staff. Um building inspection, police fire um as to what their recommendation may be. Um there's different interpretations of what the recommendation could be uh versus uh based off of different criteria. We just want to make sure we get the plan commission's um true intent with what what we want. So uh Paul, I don't know if you want to add anything. Um well, just on what I handed out, and everybody in the galley has the same thing. These are the exact same conditions prior to last meeting, like the mayor said, the areas in red were kind of the ones that just want to clarify it. Um all in these conditions were identical to last year's location on State Street. So and to note these were the conditions that um were requested as well to be pretty much the same as last year. There was uh we had conversations offline about what to expect, but the the request was pretty much similar to or exactly the same as what they're doing. There are exactly the conditions that the warming shelter followed last year. Yeah, so just want to make that clear. Again, though, the the motion that was approved was very clear on N and all, just eliminate completely. That was that was pretty clear. So if that's what you want to continue with, at least that was clear. Um the one that was questioned was was C really. Um anything you want to add on you summed it up. Yeah, okay, nicely. Um so the statistics that they were keeping last year, I think there were two people that were not able to use the services. That's I believe uh I don't know if we added the did we add their information to the let me just drag Ritz downloading one second. Yeah, we could I just want to their um request. Let me just get to where it was the the information that they provided that we asked for was you know how often are you full, this or that. Um fast facts was uh it says here somewhere uh Matt, do you remember or I just sorry you want 76 day affecting two indications?

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