I'd like to call the city council junior work session to order.

First item of business is a consideration of the September the late agenda work session minutes.

Is there a motion or all second?

You just be quiet back there.

Present Andre.

Andre just yelled second.

What do you got a second?

I told you just to stay quiet back there.

Thank you, sir.

All those in favor, please use your right hand.

Andre Barbori.

Andre.

Oh, the amendment.

Yes.

Okay.

That's an aye.

Motion carries seven.

Oh.

Councilmember Cheryl Richardson will give our BLW report.

Okay.

So of course we had a BLW meeting today.

The first item, as always, is our regular minutes, and that is no change from what we had last month.

The next item of business was we had a presentation about a contract that we are seeking approval for.

And the contract was for the Georgia Environmental Finance Authority.

So basically, what this contract does is it improves on our ability to detect and isolate outages.

So it helps to make that faster.

And we've already cut down with the number of systems we currently have, but this is a contract that goes in effect.

And it will cut down on out, not the outages, but the impact that an outage may have.

So one example was for anybody that lives over by Marietta Middle School.

There was an outage on Sunday, which I got immediately notified.

And instead of it being 200 people, it turned into 65.

So it was able to detect it and minimize the impact.

So this is a bigger grant that will allow us to do that in more places.

So that's a good thing.

So the resurfacing is going to be on US 41, so on Cobb Parkway.

Impact for us monetarily will be three manhole covers that'll need to be adjusted and also some valve work.

So we have three that we need to look at.

We expect the cost to be approximately $5,400.

We'll know exact cost when they actually let the contract with the contractor, but the work will go from Terrell Mill all the way down to the Fulton County line, our impact being Terrell Mill to Windy Hill.

So financial impact small, but just kind of beware when GDOT starts this, it's going to go down 41 tarrell to Fulton County.

Um separately because the way the contract was written was City of Marietta and the Board of Lights and Water.

So the Board of Lights and Water has already approved it.

We will need City of Marietta approval.

Yes, sir.

And just looking at the uh motion, it did say um it says that this the motion from the BLW is a motion to approve recommendation of the city council to approve the GDOT.

Uh was there also as part of that motion uh a separate authorization from BLW too?

It was it was so we'll we'll get that language cleaned up.

So we because we did discuss, as you know, we discussed the fact that it's gonna take the two signatures, though it should have just been one, but that was fine.

So if we can get that cleaned up, that'd be great.

Um we'll come back for a motion on that.

So next was Cobb Marietta Water 30 Councilman Shell Fund.

Uh thank you, Cheryl.

Um, this is a uh report for the um financial report ending August 31st, 2025.

And the water sales for the month averaged 81 million dollar gallons a day compared with the budget of 90 million gallons a day.

Water sales revenue were 9.1 million dollars.

So um we had um year-to-date net income exceeded the budget by 2.5 million.

Year to date net income exceeded the budget uh estimate by 2.7 million dollars.

Um year-to-date spending on capital projects totaled 40 million five forty million 40 point five million uh at the date of the financial report with a remaining annual CIP budget commitment of 51.6 million.

The uh cash reserved for CIP spending totaled 66.7 million.

Um we had um the water authority has about three linear projects in the works right now.

Um three also three facilities projects in the works.

Um five projects in design, and as usual, we have nine unfunded EPA requirements that we're working on.

Um I was gonna tell you a little bit about what was in the uh report, but uh we're doing a um it's uh corals reservoir cleaning project and it is it is just immense.

They have they have got a they've taken out 32,000 cubic yards of silt.

They're running about 200 trucks a day, and this looks like it's gonna be about 16 months to handle that project.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

Okay, so next we had the finance report.

Ms.

Brown.

Good evening.

So I'll start off with the um supplementals.

We do not have the financials due to timing this month.

Um they will be um submitted later on this week.

So looking at page one, the August billing numbers reflect the trend that we've seen over the summer.

The supplemental um costs offsets are lower than budget, but um, and that's primarily due to the market pricing.

Um and the total power is under budget by 1.5 million as it has the last couple of months.

The re total resources are up 2.3 million kilowatt hours, and that um is just a reflection of the um we're um spending out more um energy and getting um at a higher cost.

We're not getting as much return from supplementals to offset those costs.

Moving on to page two.

Taking a look at our BLW budget comparison.

Um, it is not as favorable as we are two months into the fiscal year.

The MEAG budget, as you know, is calendar year, so we had a longer period to um ext to um average out the cost.

And the summer weather has proven to be considerably more um more milder than normal.

Um, and so the supplementals are under budget by 200,000, and that's driving the total power over the projected um cost by 79,000.

Fiscal year to date, the total power costs are at 1.26 million over the BLW budget, and um last month's financials reflected a decrease in revenues, um, and that's seen across um all uh revenue streams, be it water sewer or electric, and that's primarily due to the weather.

People are using less water, and they don't have to use as much electricity due to the milder weather.

Looking at um page three, the gas prices continue to hover around three dollar mark.

This is slightly higher than the prior two years.

Um they've averaged two dollars and fifty-four cents per mm BTU and a dollar and ninety-three cents per MMBTU prior to that in 2022.

The average um for that year was six dollars and forty-two cents per MMBTU.

So we've seen a huge um decrease in the overall um cost.

The spot market price comparison um continues to fluctuate.

The pricing is expected to average um four dollars and it thirty cents per MMBTU in 2026, and we'll look at um that closely as we prepare for the MEAG budget that'll be released later next month.

Looking at page five and six, where the operations were normal for the month, there were a couple of outages to note Hatch had a forced outage that kept it offline for five days.

SHERE had two emissions, uh Sure II had emissions testing at the latter part of the month, and that will continue throughout the end of this month, and it has um increased our it'll increase our pricing because we'll have energy going out but no revenue to offset it during the testing time period and vocal four, sure one, oncely nine, as well as Addison all have planned outages, and that is typical for the fall months when it's um lower energy usage to have those outages and between those four units they're scheduled for the remainder of September all the way through November.

May I ask a question?

Yes.

Um with regard to the share of coal plant uh coal plants at this point, or does are there any more foreseeable commitments in uh this month or for next DC?

They haven't had any um scheduled commitments um forecasted due to the mild temperatures.

Um even though we have the outages, we would anticipate that it would still be cheaper to go out on the market versus going to the coal plants.

Okay, thank you.

Looking at um page nine in your packets, the off system sales continue to show an increase in wholesale credits year over year.

So we're up 772,000 um versus last year, and when I um reference the credits, those serve as offsets to the cost.

Um very simple, very similar to uh the supplementals, and so they will offset those costs.

So on page 10 and 11, the NCP and the energy requirements are a normal range for the five-year average.

In January and April, we saw a five-year monthly average peak for energy requirements, and those um the remaining months are have fallen, so we haven't seen those high peaks that we've seen the last in those two months as we're going into um the fall.

So we anticipate that um the energy requirement will continue to um be at average for the five year, but not um reaching a five-year high in any way.

And then lastly, we'll take a look at our wholesale water.

Um the last three months we've seen um drastic drop in our usage, and this is I'm sorry, on page 12.

If you're following along in your book, it's in it's in the water section.

Uh where is no, it's not.

So if you go in the book to water, in the book.

It's in the book in the water section, and right after the contract, but before Griff's notes, is the general manager's report water.

Well, I talked about that anymore.

Yeah, I got it.

This actually is part of the KRIFS report.

Okay.

Okay, so it was placed in the okay.

It's the it's the cop area of water authority one.

Oh, the one for our book still has a note that uh oh that it did not have okay.

So we were able um, it may have not have made the copies.

We were able to get the water um report um late Friday afternoon, so it may have not made the copies, but um for the uh water report is just showing that we are below average for the last um few months on a five-year average, and that concludes my report.

Thank you.

Let me say it's sort of an oddity to you that I think I said before.

The we're using we're not using more water with this drought like you usually have.

And it's it's really unusual because usually people spend and spend a lot more money on their yards and stuff, and they're not doing Johnny's trying to keep up with you.

I spend a lot of money.

Um next we have the um chairman's report.

Yes, the main thing report from the chairman board.

I mean the chairman's report uh focuses on the Me Act board meeting in the first phase of the 2026 budget came up, and VA now is officially a billion dollar corporation authority, and it's but because of the power that we sold off for Vogel three and four for I think another 14 years, uh we're actually 1.4 billion.

So we're we're in the lower level of the big boys, so we're it our 49 cities was pretty good.

Now they'll start allocating that money to the individual cities, they'll meet with each of the 49 cities, and then also meet with their department and hopefully have a uh report to us just for Thanksgiving.

Is that when it usually is?

And then we'll vote on December whether or not a rate stay the same or we go up.

And then the other thing we that they have the order for next year for $380,000.

So I don't know, it's things are good.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

And uh just a note on the agenda.

Um I think they said this was a report from September 2024.

So just had the add that for thank you.

Is that all there?

All right, we have um the general manager's report.

Thank you.

Good evening, council.

Uh today we just did uh part of our strategic plan with a human resources review, kind of explain this, summarize where we are, right?

Identified retirements and what we're doing to retain people because we recruitment and retention is a big focus for us.

But of uh the organization, we've got about 200 employees, and 45 of them can retire within the next one to five years.

Not that they will, but they're eligible to meet that, and 21 of those positions are in man, you know, management positions.

So we got a we're looking to promote from within, and we've last couple years we've had you know some staffing numbers got a little little high.

We're down to 17 vacancies now.

Last year it was a lot, it was more than that, it's about 20 25.

So we've got that down, and we were able to do some things, adjust some programs like the lineman uh lineman program.

We kept them, uh, got that number down, so now we've only got about three vacancies, where that was at about nine, so that was good.

And so customer service is really kind of the weak spot right now, but we're looking to technology to try to help help the employees uh not really to reduce positions but reduce the workload, um, automate where people can you know self-service.

So that was that was really the report uh summarized to the board today.

So I would all I had unless there's any questions from anybody.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, so in looking at the um looking ahead at the agenda for the meeting on Wednesday, this did not make the agenda.

So I'd like to make a motion to move to accept the report and move it forward to the council meeting on Wednesday.

Um quick question, uh quick question, Mr.

Mayor.

Yes, sir.

Um with uh proposed with no separately, so BLW actions.

This is the BLW actions, right?

Yes.

So with the with the note with the noted chip with noted changes on the agenda.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

Yes.

Um, or do we need that in the form of amendment?

I guess Mr.

Mayor, for the uh included that as part of the motion, or do you need that as an amendment?

The noted changes.

Change the minutes, uh change, yeah, change the minutes to reflect.

Noted changes.

Okay.

Um they go hand in hand.

I think it's germain to keep them.

Yeah, I think that's combined that motion.

Okay.

And I'm fine with then if it's combined, that's fine with me.

So the motion is amended.

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

All right.

Motion carries 7-0.

Okay.

We put that on consent, please.

No objection to consent.

Oh, I'm sorry, Mayor.

About the uh the seventh position on the on the board.

Working with her the BLW is recommended city council.

We have not found a qualified person, and we're gonna ask the BLW to generate a list, which would be companies that have a meter outside the mayor of city limits, and then they would nominate bring to this council nominations for an individual representing such corporation that has a meter to be that has to live in the county, county of cobb.

Because we've we've gone three months without finding the right person, and just I don't know if that has to be a motion as much as that's what we're gonna do.

You still could be looking, but just we've tried it with one, it didn't work as well, and hopefully what do you think?

There were 20 or 30 that 15 to 20 large customers outside city limits.

I mean my key say could even be one.

I I would think it just needs to get added to personnel and just direct with the direct committee.

But that's just for information and also for the question that we still have an empty chair on the BLW, so yes, yeah.

You ready?

Um Mr.

Mayor, would you like for that item that the that contract that has both the BLW and Marietta?

Please do.

Are you ready?

Are you ready for a motion?

Yes, sir.

Like the motion to suspend the rules and add an item to the agenda relating to a contract, a contract with uh G dot for US 41 resurfacing.

Thank you.

Andre by voice motion carries 7-0.

Um I would like to make a motion to approve the G DOC contract, which allows for manhole and valve replacements along the section of Cobb Parkway from Terrell Mill Road to Fulton County to be included in the GDOT US 41 resurfacing contract.

My understanding that is three and that's three manholes, correct?

Yes, right.

Okay.

For form, could we modify the not approving any work beyond Wendy Hill?

Right.

Really, what we're it's within that contract for work between Wendy Hill and with that being added to the motion, with that note being added to the motion as well, please, for form and for understanding for the future.

And this is also accepting the BLW's recommendation up to council.

Thank you.

I think Andre said second.

Did you say second?

Yeah, I've second the motion.

There's a motion to second it.

Um please please indicate your vote by hand.

Andre by voice.

7-0.

We have that on consent as well, please.

No objection to consent for either the contract or for the BLW report uh for the BLW actions.

No, no problem.

Um and that can completes my report.

Thank you.

Next item is fee structure for road race.

Could I had the privilege of sneaking something in the preference of last weekend according to some very heated phone calls that people prefer our police department to kind of manage the race?

I mean they did it a little bit different than us, which affected prayer and chicken and we did receive those comments, and the police department has had those discussions with uh their counterparts over at Cobb.

Thank you, because oh, they hired Cobb to do it instead of us.

It was Cobb.

Yeah, they hired Yeah, and they have their own kind.

So but they took up the host, I'll tell you later, but thank you.

Yes, sir.

Thank you, Mayor, and good evening.

Um so this item was moved forward by the finance investment committee um so that we could prepare and council could review the legal mechanism to um change the fee structure, and so we have that incorporated by resolution um within your packet.

Um so you'll review that.

It is the it the changes are those um that were discussed at the meeting last week.

Any desired revisions, please.

This if this accomplishes what we're trying to go for, yes, which I believe it does, correct, Doug?

Yes, sir.

Then would you like a motion?

Yes, sir.

Please do.

Uh make a motion to approve, move this forward to Wednesday for approval.

Discussion.

Please indicate your voice by raising your right hand.

All right.

Motion carries seven mo.

Thank you.

No objection consent.

No objection.

No objection.

No.

Public gatherings.

Mayor gentlemen, I'll take that, please.

Yes, sir.

Uh the committees last week looked at this for the first time.

There's no deadline for this ordinance.

If it goes forward Wednesday, it would be the first reading.

But Mr.

Buss has some comments.

And there may be an interest in moving this back to the committees at the end of this month.

So I'll leave that up to the elected officials.

I think that'd be a valuable person.

Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to move this back to JL.

The next meeting.

We got a second, but thank you.

Please indicate your vote by raising your right hand.

All right.

Motion carries seven over two.

Thank you.

So committee level, correct?

Goes back to JL.

Yeah.

Downtown Solid Waste Management District Service.

Mr.

Mark Rice.

Mr.

Mayor, can I just take a moment?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

I know that a lot of people were here for that, and I know sometimes it's a little hard to hear us.

But that item is off the agenda.

It will not be heard on Wednesday.

It is moving back to judicial legislative committee at the end of the month.

Which item?

The one on public gatherings.

Public gatherings.

Okay.

So I know that a lot of people were here for that, and I know sometimes it's hard to hear what we're saying up here, but it's now moved back to the judicial legislative on the final Tuesday of the month.

Thank you, sir.

For discussion.

Thank you.

Yes, sir.

Mr.

Mayor, at the committee meetings last week.

Um we was tasked with going back and looking at further options for Dobbs and Church Street.

Uh that access point there.

So I went back.

The last attachment, last page in your attachment there is a proposal kind of showing what we can do there to the parking spots.

Uh if you come up Dobbs to church, looking to your right, uh potential there for closing off a couple of additional parking spots there in front of the church to gain some additional site distance.

From the uh you find it back, fifth page back.

I'm sorry, fifth page back.

Fifth page back, sorry.

So it's been the last page, but it's up on the screen there.

Um closing off those two parking spaces there plus what we already have there with the sidewalk in place will give us about eighty-five feet of sight distance from that intersection looking back to the right.

I'm also proposing uh in order to get additional because there's a little bit of a rise, kind of a heel there as you come up there.

Um that current crosswalk there is almost 10 feet wide.

Um crosswalk down to about five to six feet wide and moving that stop bar up a little bit more on top of the hill in order to get better site distance on down the street a little bit more.

So, in combination with those three items there that will improve the site distance there at that intersection, um able to see back um down church street.

That would not necessitate closing Dobbs at church that will keep the five parking spaces along Dobbs.

Um we will lose those two there on church street itself, but we'll keep the five along Dobbs.

And Mr.

Mayor, may I do we gain any on the other part of this with with the other proposal that we have along root street?

Uh we have a net gain.

Time you subtract out what we already have there now, and not counting these two, we're gaining about 18 parking spaces net.

Thank you.

So that area that where the super parking spots are going away, that'll be brick like the rest of the side.

Yes, we'll just extend that brick sidewalk down, um, be a little wider.

Uh that continuation there at that corner.

You see how wide that is?

We'll just extend that down.

Um we do have a stormwater inlet there, we'll have to work around, but we're not proposing doing anything other than just making a uh fling down through there for that water to continue down.

So we're proposing you close Dobbs Street right there.

No, that will keep it open.

Um that will improve the site distance at that intersection with what we're proposing.

Closing those two parking spaces, shortening our uh making that crosswalk a little narrower and then moving that stop bar up, you'll be able to see uh at that intersection a lot better.

Okay, I thought we were in looking at closing that we were, uh, and then I was asked to look at other options possibly there, so we wouldn't lose those five parking spaces on Dobbs.

So this is the other alternative to closing Dobbs.

We will lose two parking spaces versus a five on Dobbs.

If we close, if we close Dobbs, we will lose those five on Dobbs.

So we've gained two where we close it.

We if if we close it, there's no way to keep those five on Dobbs and still be able to get it.

If we put curb straight across there, we'd pick up two paces right there on the on the uh church street.

Yes, you would pick up two more right there.

We wouldn't need to lose in five spaces, and we'd still be able to do something with them.

Correct.

Yeah, if if if it was closed entirely, you could add two more there.

Um cross through there.

So you would you would lose a net of three when it was all said and done.

If you closed them all out.

If you close all five on Dobbs, yeah, and then add those two.

So yeah.

We could go ahead.

Can a power truck get in the Dobbs Street with it that narrow throat?

That radius, no.

Not without not without going up on the curve, no.

Is that a problem?

Not going up on the curve, no.

That's not a problem.

They don't they don't like doing that, but they can't, they do do that.

We've we've we've kept the utility poles and things out of the way there, so they can make that turn if they need to, right there.

Our fire chief smiling.

Yeah, he's I I I can I can feel I can feel it in the back of my head.

There he is.

Could they make it before?

No, that that radius was still too tight before.

Yeah.

That radius did not change that dramatically from what we did from what was there before to now.

The radius is still tight.

Maybe not as tight, but it was still tight before.

Chief's coming.

You've summoned him.

Somebody had to call his name.

No, he heard you before.

Would you like to make a comment, Chief?

I'll step aside.

It's all yours.

I just wanted to add so Dobbs Street, we're not gonna go up Dobbs Street.

So if we're getting any kind of calls up on church, we're gonna come up with a limited turn.

We have our access point.

So while we can, I mean, if we're up there for some odd reason and we do need to make that turn, and we hit that curve, but the chance of that are gonna be pretty rare.

So I appreciate the inside honor access, it's not an issue for us.

Thank you.

He says those words every time we ask him.

Do you want to discuss the piece of mail or you want to incorporate into I I believe the direction that I received was you wanted this all incorporated into one discussion, and so that's where I'm at at this point.

So we're kind of looking for a consensus if this would be a good adjustment.

Yes.

Separate them into Dobbs and route separately.

Okay.

I agree.

But but for Dobbs Street with this change, uh we on the same page together.

I think we go back to committee off to the committee to discuss that because I haven't seen that one yet.

This just came to us today, right?

It was in the packet for today's meeting.

I'm game for going back to who else are talking about root street tonight, too.

Yeah, this this is still part of the root street discussion at this time.

But yeah, but but to your point, you want to talk about Dobbs Street.

Back in the committees, and then this tonight.

That's why I was talking separating them.

If we go back to committee on Dobbs Street.

Brought Root Street home tonight and vote on a Wednesday, I'd be against that.

Okay.

You might go back on both of them.

I wouldn't mind coming resolve for Root Street.

But to re for the whole area, I'd like to vote at one time on the whole thing.

So go back to committee.

Let's talk about Root Street and then see how people feel.

I'm not in favor of blocking off Dobbs Street.

I am.

I know.

I know you are we're opposed to each other.

Right.

And if we don't agree on both streets, we we ought to do it all at on the one time.

All at one time.

Option B, Stephanie.

We're going back to committee then.

Probably going back here now.

So root street, this was the uh consensus option working with the church.

Um Dobbs is already one way from Cherokee to church, making route uh one way going from Dobbs to Hansel, and then installing taking out the parallel parking, making angle parking along route along the church parking lot, and then the church has some other parking on the right hand side as you're closing in as you're going up toward Hansel, making four more angle parking on that side of the uh street, and then installing the dumpster enclosure there at the corner of route and handsell um on the combination of city right away and church uh property, and then converting where the current dumpsters are located on Hansel back into on street parking there uh at the corner of Hansel and Route uh closer to the square.

Quick question.

The ones that the church uh the church has on the it's the bottom of this particular one, the four with the yellow.

They already have uh the church already owns back out parking on the root street currently, I think.

They they do, but they would have to have some city right-of-way um the the current parking spaces um primarily are all on their their right of way because they're straight in parking.

Um but in order to make them angle parking, they would have to have some city right of way in order to have on them.

So that's we've calculated that in as far as her out of way calculations.

So those four spots are those church parking with um the payment, or are they meter?

They would they would become city right away.

Oh, they okay.

So those four would then become city right of way.

They would become city right away.

Okay.

And all the other angled ones are public parking.

That's correct.

Okay.

And Griff, I'd already get I'd already say my opinion on the direction of Root Street packet committee.

I'd still prefer it heading up north.

I know you prefer heading down south.

Yeah.

Well, just coming out of the school and just directing all that traffic to go down there towards the question then uh so root street would be one way coming off of uh North Park.

It is one way coming off North Park now, heading toward Hansel.

Right.

So it would stay until it would stay one way that's the Hansel.

It's a handsome.

Um I spent quite a took quite a bit of time out there last Wednesday morning uh trying to lay this out.

And about the time school was coming into session there for the daycare or school there for the church, and watching that traffic movement.

Um it is something to watch.

Um so this proposal even just strengthens my belief that this is the best way to make this traffic move in the safe manner.

Um there is an awful lot of pick up and drop off, especially drop off in the mornings when I was out there uh watching those movements in a safe manner.

This is the best safe solution, safest solution in order to move the traffic one way down Dobbs, one way up route, and then back over to Cherokee Street, the safest manner uh for the kids and the parents, everybody that's involved right there.

This is kind of like a side question to that.

Does a city have any control on what the church and other parking places around charge for parking?

No, sir.

We have no price control.

Price control, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, the range is five to twenty bucks.

I know.

I think a parked there was ten dollars for two hours and keep moving another place.

We charge 20.

Yeah.

But nobody parked in outside because we charged one.

Yes.

That's the reason.

Yeah.

Yeah, for that I've seen a couple more people unload trucks on Hansel Street.

Is that a new tendency?

It's not really a loading zone compared to the alley.

It's not, and then I know during one of our previous discussions you want us to look at loading unloading in the downtown.

And I do have that prepared to bring forward as a separate discussion.

That's going to be a larger scale uh discussion at some point.

So I'll I'll we'll be bringing that forward, but I was hoping to get this resolved before I have that discussion mayor and council, because it's it's going to be a larger scale discussion in the downtown.

So would the body like to throw this to the next committee meeting?

I don't know.

It looks like to me we're ready to vote on it.

Um I know Griff and I are going to be on opposite sides of the issue.

It's just uh it just is I'd probably I prefer the grid keep on up.

I know I know Griff is looking out towards the uh looking out towards um uh other other issues.

We're just it's just different, it's a difference of opinion on the thing.

See what happens here.

Exactly.

Or can I make a motion?

I make a motion that we accept development option B with the pull-in parking on Root Street between Dobbs and Hansel, route street moving south between Dobbs and Hansel.

The dumpster enclosure on the corner of Root Street and Hansel as depicted on development option B and Dobbs Street remaining open.

I second that.

You second Dobbs open.

I'm I'm going with I I I can feel the room.

Sometimes you just have to do that.

I can go.

So we got a motion and a second.

This closes.

We're gonna talk about that separate.

No, we decide we're gonna do it all at once.

But that's that's what I'm saying.

You include you sucking the included in this motion.

Yeah, the motion proves keeping Dobbs Street open.

Yeah, it's over after this motion.

Right.

You under okay.

He's good.

I take back mine because I didn't know we weren't going back to the Oh no, this is all one big thing, Dobbs Street remaining open.

I second it.

Okay.

Can I have a discussion to ask?

Discussion now open, yeah.

Can I ask you a question about me?

Yeah, okay.

About this was closed, don't you feel like it would be some wasted.

I mean you want to close it.

Well, I just I'm just trying to understand, but then you go have those little parking spots.

You're gonna have parking couple parking spots.

I mean, still would be parking spots, but a couple parking spaces that you could directly back out of bad idea.

So you're you just feel like it needs to be closed.

That's that was my thought, but I mean, if I if I can't get that, I'll take root street right now.

And get that, just get the dumpster thing.

We've been working on it for years.

How many years?

Oh, about five years right now.

We have you know, and this is also the church giving up that dumpster there and incorporating that into their thing.

I've said my piece, I got at least try I gotta at least try.

Um I'll make a motion to amend to for going north on Root Street.

That amend or substitute.

Um no, I'll I'll amend.

Okay.

I'll make it an amendment rather than a substitute since again.

There's other there are other issues in the main motion itself.

Are you amending?

Amend.

Uh make a motion to amend.

I'm not trying to try to substitute, just amend.

I gotta at least give this a try.

Amend, I understand.

Yeah.

Amend going root street wouldn't be heading north with an angle parking change to appropriately affect goes north complete all the way through from Hansel to Dobbs.

These parking places wouldn't work like this.

They'd have oh yeah.

They'd be they'd be flipp they'd be flipped to the other direction.

Yeah.

So is there a second Mr.

Ghosting's amendment on the amendment appeals for lack of a second?

I'd like to make an amendment on Cheryl's motion to approve the root street part of hers and make the Dobbs Street go back to the public works committee.

Does that make sense?

I thought we'd be doing that anyway, right?

Oh no, not under Cheryl's motion.

That's where I thought too, but we're not.

All I did was to suggest Cheryl made a motion.

So I'm making an amendment to that.

We vote for this, like it is, and then we go back to the public works committee to discuss Dobb Street.

Well that could always be done, couldn't it?

I mean, you don't want to bring it up, and it's not closed, but the way she proposed it, it was done and closed it's done it and closed.

Done and open.

Done it open.

It could be changed Wednesday.

I'm okay with it being left open.

So now how are you okay?

I'm okay with leaving open with the changes that Mr.

Rice's Okay, that's fine.

Mr.

She is there a second to Mr.

Shaffant's motion.

Hearing none of the proposed amendment fails for lack of a second.

Any further right now the Dodge to Hansel is running south, and from North Park Square to Hansel is running north.

Root Street.

And then Dodd Street, we're adding what you proposed at the first of the meeting.

Yeah.

Which is just that curve cut and the it's a losing.

Can you repeat the motion?

I could if I remembered it.

Maybe Stephanie can't.

Okay.

The motion is to accept the development option B with the dumpster enclosure on the corner of Hansel and Root Street.

Root Street from Dobbs to Hansel going south.

And with Dobbs Street remaining open and losing the two parking spaces on church.

Okay.

Thank you.

We're not going to put ghost on the nipsy dumpsters like we did five years ago.

Probably not.

And just so you know that.

Even if the street might cause me to vote against.

So I'm glad I'll be I'll be glad to have the dumpster enclosure, that's for sure.

Okay.

Sound like a best you're not in the church could live with this, wouldn't I?

They think it's perfect or not.

That's correct.

This is after negotiating with them for quite a while.

This is what we both came to an agreement on at this point.

We'll see they're like trying to hurt herd cats too.

Yes, sir.

It's it's it's that's part of the five-year delay.

This is your people, I'm not touching that.

And to further clarify the mo this is a motion to move it to the agenda Wednesday.

It's Wednesday's agenda.

Hold over some.

Please indicate your vote about moving it to Wednesday.

All right.

Raising your right hand, I'm sorry.

Motion carries seven.

Uh, six one six one.

Six one.

Just is still against on consent.

Okay.

Okay, we're based on the fact that I think discussion's been held to show me against, and you can put it on consent.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So on consent.

Mr.

Ghosting.

So all the hard work.

Yes.

Uh this is been a draft of the city council agenda.

Yeah.

Okay.

Mr.

Mayor, can I make a motion?

Suspend the rules and add a motion for a proclamation.

I want to do the same.

Okay, we wag it through mine first.

Okay.

All second.

All right.

All in favor, please raise your right hand.

Motion carries.

All right.

All right.

I'd like to uh add a motion for a proclamation to recognize the Georgia Symphony Orchestra on their 25th on their 75th year, which officially starts on October 11th, and also recognizing Timberville for his tenth year as the Maestro.

That'd be within one all one big proclamation.

I mean one proclamation.

I'll second.

All those in favor, please indicate your vote with your right hand.

They're also going to sing the national anthem, just so you know.

I'm one of Cheryl singing the national anthem.

Cheryl is not.

Uh proclamation.

I'll second the motion to add and suspend the rules.

And add a motion.

Okay.

Or add a re resolution to the Wednesday.

All those in favor, adding a motion, please raise your right hand.

All right.

Motion carries seven oh.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

So I'd like to make a motion uh to add to Wendy's Wednesday's agenda a proclamation which declares October the 8th as the mayor's reading club day, which is a part of uh the city of Marietta join the joining the GMAC mayor's reading club.

Sure, I couldn't hear.

It's a proclamation for the city to recognize October 8th as the mayor's reading club day, and it's part of the GMA's reading club.

Okay, thank you.

Is that a yes?

Did somebody second?

All those in favor?

Motion carry seven.

Thank you, Andrew.

Thank you, Andrew.

Motion carries seven oh.

Sure.

Was there choir gonna sing number?

It's the order would be prayer, national anthem, um pledge.

By the GSO GSO choir.

It's just a little grouping.

They won't bring the whole thing.

Any objection to adding that?

No objection.

No objection to add that.

No objection.

Fire week, I guess somebody I guess your group will do that.

Public safety chairman, we join them.

Purchase the division distinguished milestone award.

Is finance going to present that?

Yes, sir.

Um and whatever council member would like to be there.

You're not fine anymore.

Carlisle is.

Public safety, I guess that public safety.

Is that Andy?

I think it's I think it's Johnny.

If you help them on that, that'd be good.

Does that cover all of them?

And without Cheryl Singing.

For schedule periods, we have three people that have signed up.

For the seven September 10th, 2025 regular meeting minutes.

Is there a motion to approve?

Um revised pages.

Okay, uh as revised it was in our um no objection if it's as revised.

Do you need a motion to amend, Mr.

Mayor?

To approve these.

I don't think we made our motion yet.

Well, uh the motion's already on the agenda, so um it since it's already on the agenda, already on the Wednesday agenda, it would just either be putting on consent or amending the motion, I think.

Right.

So you want to add after meeting minutes as amended?

Yes, well, uh as well, since there's there's proposed revisions on here on the September 10th sometimes we've done that either just put on consent as amended, or sometimes it's been a motion, so I just wouldn't know what you what would your preference would be on that, Mr.

Mayor for procedurally.

Yeah, I'll spend a lot of time with that, but since it was never approved, I don't think this is really revised.

This is an original now.

Yeah.

I mean but before us.

Yeah, before us since it hasn't been approved.

Just picking a clerical error before we voted, I think.

Then uh as as it's been re as it's been revised, I'd have no objection to consent.

Any objection to consent?

Nope.

Special minutes from September the 30th.

No objection.

Any objection that be on consent?

No objection.

No objection.

Thank you.

ZA appointment for ward four.

I'd like to leave that on consent.

No objections.

Mr.

Kendall, right for consent.

No objection.

No objection.

This was tabled by planning commission, right?

So that's correct.

This was tabled at planning commission with consent of the developer, and it can come off of the agenda.

Yeah, because it's not this isn't even properly before us at this time.

Okay, it was tabled by the planning commission.

So really it's just information.

This is just notice.

Correct.

Okay.

Any reason to leave it on the minutes?

But maybe historically it's a good you may put it on consent to be tabled if you like.

It's it's well with the item not even being before us.

I'm not sure we can take action on it.

This is before the planning commission, not us.

Correct?

Correct.

Yeah.

So it's actually withdrawing.

Well, it's tabled.

So tabled by the planning commission.

Many times that would not find its way to the agenda, but because of the tight time frame and for purposes of notification to those who were concerned with the item, it did make its way to the agenda this time.

So it could either be removed this time or perhaps even an acknowledgement on consent if there's such a motion.

Uh but no action is required by city council.

I think it'd be appropriate to table it just so we can have it.

Or just make or mark the item as information purposes only.

This item has been tabled by the planning commission and it will be heard on this.

It'll be next heard on this date.

That might if you're trying to get information across, that might be your best way to do it.

Actually, I think we're both right.

Yeah, shouldn't it?

Yeah.

It was tabled on time.

That's correct.

Yeah.

Yeah.

At their level, not really at our level.

Right.

It was it was advertised for this meeting, but it was tabled before uh it ever made it past the planning commission.

Whatever have it if council feels would be good for information.

Delete.

Please find with me.

Yeah, dude.

I know the residents fairly well know that the item has been tabled.

It's been put up on next door, it's been gotten around the neighborhood, so I'm pretty sure pretty well sure that this the neighbors already know it's been tabled.

That's because it was tabled at their level, not an hour, so I think it would be proper to just remove it.

Yeah.

Any objection?

No objection.

No objection.

No objections.

209 West Dixie.

Thank you again, Mayor.

So for 209 West Dixie, uh, this is a property that has historically been utilized for residential purposes, but was rezoned to OIT in the late 90s.

And um it has never been used as an office.

Um and it has since been demolished, and the new owner would like to come in and rebuild a home.

And so as such, they are requesting the rezoning um from OIT to R4, and there is a variance due to lot width that's required, and they'll be here on Wednesday to present.

Is it in the downtown historic district?

Where is the it's on West Dixie?

West Dixie from the Hilton.

Okay.

Anything else for tonight?

Thank you.

Yes, sir, please.

No objection to consent.

No objection.

No objection.

We now have phase one is on consent.

Is that right?

Bring on we Andre, is that all right?

Yes.

Thank you.

No objection.

No objection.

No objection.

Mr.

Mayor.

Next four items from 14 462 and 480 Roswell down to the splash are on consent.

Yes, sir.

I have a question that's been come up in uh Doug how to handle it.

Um some of the residents uh that's behind the 462 and 480 have expressed some concern about the building, and I've talked to the owners of Jen and Tim, and they have stipulated to some additional stipulations.

So is it best to take it off of consent at this time and then when is appropriate time to add those additional you could actually have them submit them to the city in writing?

Okay, but you can add it back to consent Wednesday at 6 o'clock if those conditions are good.

Now they sent an email does that count or they have to be officially sent.

I haven't seen it.

They just sent it to Carline.

I think they just sent it to me, but we could have them send that passed along.

To take it off consent.

Wednesday we could add it.

Yes, sir.

If everybody's happy, yeah.

With the emails I got from the other mayors, is that the um that this is last item, 2022.

Oh this is the 2022 spot.

I was gonna talk about the future spot.

Never mind.

Yeah, this is just reallocating that money to the projects that have already been approved.

Um, but we we are having continual discussions on the new splash.

Just for information and because it's a good time to bring it up that the county wants to go forward with two big projects, which would leave us mark at the same level with a 32, 33 million.

It'll be more than that, but in the big bear in the room is the new state.

Right.

Well, uh question.

Where are they planning?

Are they is this the jury lot or the other lot that they own?

It's the bank lot right across from uh the fire station.

Okay.

Did the mayor have a question about what the amount you're still gonna be around 33 or 34 million?

If if they go if they do go forward with these two projects, we we will stay at about 58.8 million.

Thank you.

Um, which is just about two million above what our current SLOSS is at, unless they move that projection up.

But that that's what they've been telling us right now.

And what's their current projection?

It's less than a billion dollars.

Yes.

Is that all that question before I ask it?

From from looking at the current SPLOST and looking at where we think that it should be uh for the next SPLOST, that would be a low estimate.

And in the end again, of course, we need to make sure that any estimates are reasonable, but something going above a billion, that also means that we've had good economic activity in the county, correct?

Right.

So yeah.

A lot of people that are coming into the county to do business and other things that that money would be derived from.

Thank you.

Can I ask Mark a question?

The allotment per ward, is that the city sets that or is that set by the that's set by the mayor and council.

The the sheet that we gave out the other night was keeping it at your current levels proposed, but that's still subject to the mayor and council's decision.

Yeah, and uh Mr.

Mayor, correct please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

The 2016 spLOS, I think the mayor and council one was up to a million.

It cut back for the 2022 swaps when we had the uh the budget.

Whenever the estimates were revised down with the cut with the enforcement of COVID and when COVID came about, so we've cut it from a million on each ward down to 500,000 for each ward.

For tier one and 500,000 tier two.

Total of a million.

So you're close.

When we was putting together the 2022, you guys started at a million, and then because of the county cutting back because of COVID, then you had to come back and cut it to half a million.

There was not any council allocations in the 2016 splost.

Not like this current setup is.

So not per ward.

So that this made it a lot cleaner as far as minute track per ward expenditures.

Um what for which of you had to spend um in your in your ward?

So it was just one, it was just one pot before it just had seven uh seven million or so in it, essentially.

Was how it worked in 16?

It was just added into all of the other accounts.

Um and then we had you I think you guys kind of had a gentleman's agreement as to how much you would spend, but it wasn't listed out like it is in this current SPLOS.

Okay.

So we would have been a hundred and ten million if there'd been no county projects.

Well, the if the percentages are all a little bit off now because uh you got Mapleton in there.

So that uh that changed things.

Well wait a second.

I'm not counting the county projects, but the city's share of the non of the general stuff, our share, our overall percentage shouldn't have changed unless our population changed, even with the addition of Mabel to quite uh exactly.

But if you look at the overall percentage of everything and you throw the county in there, I thought that was what the question was.

What percent of everything do we get?

Um and that would be um if the county is 750 more 60, that's eight percent.

So the right so it depends my memory is going back to when it was bigger.

Right, it just yeah, it depends on the population population growth, yeah.

Yeah.

So would there be an interest in changing it to a million per ward?

Well, we've got um don't think that's before us right now.

I think we've got time we got time to discuss that.

I think it's in public works right now, is where the item is.

It's gonna right, it's gonna come back to you at every committee meeting for discussion every month.

58 million is 58 million.

Right.

Yeah, we uh under preferred more, but right.

Yeah, yes, sir, and to your point of if they're throwing those large projects in there, that does take a lot of money from the cities uh that was not taken this last time.

Um, but also if they revise the estimate up to where we think it'll be, uh, as far as the amount of money that comes in, that also gives more money to the cities that we can plan for.

So either one would be very helpful.

So do we get any money from permitting and any of that if they build those buildings?

I know they don't pay taxes.

We we would be pushing for permitting dollars, yes, sir.

Yes.

I hope if we could cut them into replacing the parking they're gonna take.

Yes.

I hope they're not gonna run on just their parking they have now when they're taking parking initial jury parking again.

Yeah, I don't I don't know what their final thoughts are gonna be on that.

I know they were looking at some secured parking uh that would go along with the courthouse building, but I I don't know who all that would involve if it would be all the parking they're currently using, or it would be just certain individuals.

So do you know who we would contact to see if um uh have a discussion about the parking in the current buildings because what I'm hearing those buildings are not full, but they're not allowing public to access them during the week.

Um they they from what we know they allow the public to ax uh to get access into them, but they charge them.

Right, but I was during the I think he's during the day, correct?

Yeah, during the day is for employees only.

Oh, the one building, yes.

Yeah, yeah, and that one building is closer to downtown.

Right, and and what I'm thinking about is the employees that work downtown.

We could strike some kind of deal with the county to have the top two levels, so could they we give at a uh at a reasonable rate?

Yeah, there have been discussions like that in the past, and so I think would make sense to approach them.

Yes, I have a utility band.

So hard to lead down on consent, please.

No objection.

West Dixie Avenue and Raymond Street stop sign request.

Uh we don't have any new information, Mr.

Mayor.

We ready for the public hearing on Wednesday.

And that went to and sorry.

Now went through the appropriate process of everything taking a look and done again because there's already sidewalks or being proposed because there's already sidewalks in the area.

Yes, because uh uh the park renovation being done there, and that's this intersection is right at that park.

Um West Dixie Park there, so this will go out.

People on the other side of the street, safe access to the park uh at that intersection out there.

Thank you.

Mem rant MOU for what lock avenue.

Yeah, no objection as presented.

Um, before you move on to the next item, I submit a disclosure to Stephanie that uh a m a member of my family and an entity owned by a member of my family owned the property where the proposed building would is being done.

I'll be stepping down and not participating in my official capacity.

It is councilman.

You made the motion absolutely square.

Yes, sir.

Thank you again, Mr.

Mayor.

Um so um before you or what will be before you on Wednesday evening is a um certificate of approval for 77 North Park Square.

Uh this comes to you because all new construction within the historic board of reviews purview uh eventually needs to come to city council for deliberation uh based upon the historic guidelines.

Uh so the request is for a 4300 square foot uh building.

It's a single story building, but it presents uh to the street as if it were a two-story building for the purpose uh use of a restaurant.

So you can see some of the descriptors there, and then also in your packet you have the application uh as well.

I will note um looking through code, this does not require a public hearing, and so this comes uh before you just as a traditional vote.

Is there a picture of motion to move it forward?

No, it's already on the agenda.

I'll make a motion to move it forward.

It's already on there, yeah.

Is there you don't mind?

Is there a discussion or consent or not?

It's in the very back of the book.

The last thing you have.

Yeah, this nods for consent.

Six nodes for consent.

You ever had a two for Johnny?

No.

I did good on this one though.

Well, historic board of review.

I would can I make a comment?

Yes, sir.

You know, I I serve on the historic board of review, and this item came uh in front of us, and the applicant had had worked with the city and you know got everything right.

And it we voted on it in about probably a minute, minute and a half.

That's the quickest we've ever voted for anything.

Absolutely.

Can they get some parking levels up under it?

Would be really nice.

Where are we gonna put the art now?

That's right.

Okay, so we're finally get a spot for it, I'm sure.

Maybe Ted's might want to put some of it in their restaurant.

In their restaurant.

We're gonna have to close Lawrence Street.

Oh Mr.

Ghosting, you're welcome to come back home.

I think they're so you leave the room.

No, sir.

No, sir.

Andre, sorry about your brother in law.

Yes, sir.

So yeah, I'm at the hospital now in the lobby, so thank you for your prayers, guys.

He needs it.

Get back to your family, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Now it's world series time.

Meeting your journal.