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Marietta City Council Meeting Summary (Nov 12, 2025)

City Council Archive ViewWednesday, November 12, 2025
BodyMarietta, Georgia
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DateWednesday, November 12, 2025
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0:01

They have something magic in the ward over in the track department over Mirahasku.

0:08

Anything else?

0:11

Scheduled appearance.

0:12

Mr.

0:13

Barth.

0:26

Good evening, Donald Barth.

0:28

Wow.

0:29

Y'all have started this one out with a bang.

0:33

That's what makes Marietta great.

0:35

And for those of you that won your election, congratulations.

0:40

For Mr.

0:41

Goldstein, who beat the Bushes and brought in more people to vote in Ward 7 than we knew were out there.

0:49

Cool.

0:51

For the three of you, four of you, who are possibly leaving this dais.

0:58

You know you've you served because you had a calling.

1:02

And now we're gonna see the changing of the colors, the changing of the guard.

1:07

Well, we got the old guy, he's gonna stick around with us and lead what we're gonna have.

1:13

And I want to tell you something.

1:14

They call us the gym city.

1:17

You're the gym polisher.

1:20

You are the man who is gonna take whatever they throw back at you on there, and you're going to make the diamond shine.

1:28

It won't be hard because whatever you get will be elected by Marietta.

1:33

But you are the leader who can cut the diamond and make us proud.

1:39

And I'm glad that we have you for four more years.

1:43

I know your wife's not, but you are the man.

1:49

You have done what you said you'd do, and we continue on.

1:54

So other than that, there's not much I could say after what a surprise tonight, other than I was so proud of the way the elections went.

2:03

I am so proud to have.

2:07

I know where the strength is, and this is what it's gonna take for Marietta.

2:12

We're going to make the mayor shine by having a strong council.

2:18

The council leads the way, the mayor leads the council.

2:22

And of course, we have Mr.

2:24

Bruton to think over there.

2:26

Who's gonna bring it up?

2:28

Bring up the rear.

2:30

And we we acknowledge tonight Mark Rice in public works, who we can't live without.

2:36

And Mark's reaching a certain age.

2:39

David reaching a certain age.

2:43

Bill, I'm not even gonna begin to guess your age.

2:46

But at this point, we need to be watching Marietta and watching what happens for the future.

2:54

I'm so happy it turned out the way it did.

2:58

And Mr.

2:59

Mayor, I'm looking forward to what you bring to the table.

3:02

Thank you.

3:08

Mr.

3:09

Stevenson.

3:18

Don't even want to try.

3:20

Tracy Stevenson.

3:22

Uh I too with uh Don say gee.

3:25

Thanks for uh making an interesting and spirited election.

3:29

Uh came down to the last skinny's, and we still got two seats to fill.

3:33

Uh but I think that one thing that ought to come from this for everybody here is that we need to get a little younger around here.

3:41

You know, I think the young folks have told us, you know, we need to need to think about incorporating them.

3:48

And that's what I would say going forward for all of us.

3:51

That's what I want to see happen.

3:52

Thank you.

4:01

I'd like to close the public hearing part, and now I'd like to call on the mayor pro team, Mr.

4:06

Walker, to do the consent agenda, please.

4:10

Good evening.

4:12

If everybody would take out their agenda and notice on the left side of all the items except for two, it has a little asterisk.

4:21

What that means is those items are on the consent agenda, meaning we've already gone through uh committee meetings, agenda work sessions, and we're gonna uh assume that those will all pass and we'll vote on those all at one time in order to save time.

4:37

Mr.

4:37

Haney, is there any changes to the consent agenda?

4:40

Yes, sir.

4:40

One minor change all the way over on page nine.

4:43

Item 20250900.

4:47

Stays on consent.

4:48

It is the code amendment related to fire scheduling change.

4:52

Within that item, the effective date of that will be January 4, 2026.

4:56

Otherwise, it stays on consent, and otherwise there are no other changes, Mr.

5:00

Walker.

5:01

Thank you, Mr.

5:01

Haney.

5:02

Any questions?

5:04

I would like to make a motion to approve the consent agenda.

5:07

Everybody please cast your vote.

5:17

Consent agenda is approved 7-0.

5:19

Thank you.

5:20

Thank you, Mr.

5:21

Walker.

5:22

Next item is an ordinance in a public hearing being zoning matter Z 2025-17.

5:30

Mr.

5:30

Handy, will you conduct a public hearing, please?

5:32

Yes, sir, please.

5:34

The following item is open for a public hearing.

5:37

Mr.

5:38

Cummings comes forward.

5:39

There's so many street addresses here, it's not possible to name all of them.

5:44

The item is 2025.

5:47

The rezoning by Trayton Corporation LLC.

5:51

Is there anyone here that is in opposition to that that would like to speak in the opposition?

5:56

Okay.

5:57

Mr.

5:57

Cummings, the floor is yours.

5:58

The public hearing is now open.

6:00

Thank you, Mr.

6:01

Haney.

6:02

For KC 2025-17, Trayton LLC is requesting the rezoning of certain properties comprising 19.451 acres located along Herbert Blanche and Crestridge Drive.

6:15

From R2, single family residential, R 4, single family residential, and RRC, Regional Retail Commercial, to PRDSF for the construction of 79 single family detached homes.

6:28

Mr.

6:28

Kevin Moore is here on behalf of the applicant.

6:32

Mr.

6:33

Moore.

6:38

Thank you, Steph.

6:43

Thanks.

6:45

Good evening, Mr.

6:46

Mayor.

6:46

Council members, I'm Kevin Moore.

6:49

Here on behalf of Trayton Homes in this application for rezoning, and pleased to represent them.

6:55

This rezoning is a property that's 19 and a half acres that's proposed for rezoning for a Trayton neighborhood.

7:02

As you may know, and as I know you know, for that Trayton has been a home builder in this county and in the city for over 50 years now, building fine communities and outstanding uh homes for the residents of City Marietta as well as Cybe County in Northwest Georgia.

7:20

The particular property we're hearing about tonight is located off of really I 75 along one entire side.

7:27

You see the property highlighted in the middle.

7:29

It's also surrounded on the other two sides by a neighborhood and a community which consists of various streets and ranch, Crest Ridge as well that you see there.

7:43

The property itself is zoned RRC, Regional Retail Center in the City of Marietta, primarily, with only a small portion of the property zoned to residential category.

7:53

So 90 plus percent of this property is currently zoned RRC.

7:58

This council has seen this property before for rezoning and four proposals which have not been successful.

8:05

What we are proposing tonight is a rezoning to your PRD plan residential development single family category for development of a trayton community, which would be a maximum of 79 single family detached homes.

8:18

And I think it's important uh just to give you a little bit of context about how we got here tonight.

8:23

Uh when this property was say three years ago, plus or minus, uh, was brought before this body in this council uh for development of a residential community.

8:33

It was over 130 homes that were proposed, primarily town homes with some smattering of detached homes.

8:40

The council chambers were filled with the opposition to that request uh from uh the community, and it was resoundingly defeated.

8:48

I sat here and presented it uh and saw 7 to 0 as the as a denial of that application.

8:54

And we did hear, and I did hear, and others heard uh what the community had to say about that proposal and the two main things were the amount of density involved at that point in time, and also the number of town homes involved.

9:06

Since Trayton was able to place this property under contract, they began developing what their vision would be, keeping in mind what the community had spoken uh to three years ago.

9:16

Uh the initial plan uh was a total of 119 homes, uh which was primarily single family detached homes with some town homes.

9:25

We had some community uh meeting.

9:28

We had met with some members of the community to take a look at it and see about their input.

9:33

Ultimately, we filed this application uh with a site plan that had 113 homes.

9:38

Again, removing some of the town homes, uh growing the single family detached home portion of it.

9:43

And that was filed in July of this past year.

9:47

We then began working through a lot of the engineering, uh, continued to hear uh comments and discussion and concerns.

9:54

Uh it was tabled a couple of times before the planning commission ever got to the hearing as we continue to work through the plan, and Trayton continue to work through that plan.

10:00

As we continue to work through the plan, and Trayton continue to work through that plan, ultimately reducing this plan to a total of 79 homes, all single family detached with no townhomes at all.

10:09

And that's what's being presented here for you tonight.

10:11

And I wanted to give you that context and history so that you can see number one, how we got here tonight.

10:17

Number two, also see the amount of time and effort and the listening that was done to get to this plan, which we think is an excellent development plan for this property.

10:28

Again, if you look at this site plan, they'll kind of go from left to right on the screen at the top left.

10:34

That's Blanche Drive as it comes in, it would be an entrance to this community.

10:39

Blanche Drive turns into Banberry and also has an intersection with Franklin Gateway.

10:44

So if you went out and went left, that takes you to Franklin Gateway and Banberry very quickly underneath the interstate underpass, certainly a major corridor for access to and from this particular property.

10:58

As you're coming from left to right, you enter, you have uh detached homes as we've talked about, and then you quickly find areas of pocket parks, which have been intentionally designed to provide for not only visual appeal, it helps to break up the overall uh subdivision, the overall community to have passive pocket parks.

11:15

These would be heavily landscaped, and we'll look at those in a second.

11:18

Those pocket parks added dimension to this portion of the property.

11:22

Again, a great place for residents to gather, great place for residents to stop uh and have a refreshment if they need be.

11:30

Also, at this point, you'll see there's uh two alleys.

11:33

Uh that's again designed specifically to have rear loaded detached units that do two things.

11:39

Number one, provide a little more interest than simply the same types of houses, provides interest, provides visual appeal as well as having rear loaded units and again doing that around uh that pocket park.

11:50

Those units are the ones where we've requested a reduction in the driveway length to seven feet, which seems very low, and we understand that.

11:58

One of the issues that we've always heard about driveway links is parking.

12:01

What happens is people want to visit, they come, a delivery, what have you.

12:05

There's nowhere for them to go.

12:06

Uh we have in this instance designed specifically and included uh guest parking that surrounds those units uh on the main street uh right at their front doors so that we could address that problem uh ahead of time uh through design.

12:19

And also it does again enable us to contain these and have these pocket parks and have a different feel as you move through and not just the same so that you're actually creating an interesting new uh treatment community for this overall residential area.

12:34

As you continue on across, you see that there's a stream crossing and a large segment of undisturbed property where you see the squiggly lines, that's the stream, uh which will be fully protected.

12:43

And then you go to the right-hand side, and again, you have detached homes, you have our active amenity there, which is a pool cabana, active amenity, and again, some rear-loaded detached homes with all of that guest parking situated directly in front of those units all the way around.

12:59

Again, providing very interesting uh visual appeal and attractiveness because those are real rear loaded and front facing, so that you have that appeal as you go through this uh community uh as well as provide for that guest parking.

13:14

Also, you see along the bottom against 75, you see tremendous areas of undisturbed land uh combined with the stream buffers in the middle.

13:22

Uh, all of that area along I-75 is uh undisturbed.

13:28

As far as the community uh pocket parks and active amenity, we wanted to show you what the inspirations were for those.

13:36

If you've ever been to a Trayton community, bless you.

13:38

Uh, you'll know how great a job they've done uh with their pocket parks with their amenities and how well they stay into the future in terms of their overall quality.

13:48

Here you see on the left an active amenity as well as a pocket park that we're talking about on the right.

13:53

You can see the beautiful landscaping and hardscaping that's involved with what Trayton would do in this community, and that's what you should expect and demand that Trayton would do here, which they would do.

14:02

Also, it's important to know well, what kind of houses are we talking about in terms of detached homes and how they're visually appealing.

14:09

I want to take you through some of the representative examples of actual Trayton homes, which they would plan and do plan uh for this new community if approved.

14:17

These are the types of detached homes with the interest uh architectural appeal and design uh that would be uh built and constructed for new homeowners in this community, and certainly they provide differentation, they provide a variety of home styles and types so that it really comes together in terms of presenting this new community.

14:38

One of the uh concerns had always been, it was it was three years ago, it's been 30 years ago with any development of this property is traffic impact on the surrounding uh residential communities.

14:50

So we did have a traffic study conducted by an independent professional traffic engineer.

14:55

A couple of highlights from that that I want to point out.

15:00

First is trip distribution, which is important to consider when you look at what does a traffic impact study or traffic study do based on the traffic engineers, traffic counts and trip counts that they uh took to see how the neighborhood traveled these areas, and based on uh their manuals, they had a trip distribution essentially of about 40 percent of the traffic from and trips from the new development, if built, would go towards the Franklin Gateway Banberry access point, meaning going out to the left, and about 60 percent of the new trips would go through the various neighborhood roads and streets to get to Powers Ferry.

15:33

In other words, getting to Powers Ferry to go somewhere or go into Franklin Gateway to go somewhere.

15:38

Uh their opinion was about a 40 percent to 60 percent split of trips.

15:43

So not all 100 percent trips of 79 detached homes are going in one place and going to one intersection with Powers Ferry or go into the Franklin Gateway.

15:51

It would be split uh according to those uh traffic habits of even the ones that are there and living now.

15:58

Also, what this uh traffic study revealed was uh based on the traffic counts that were took during the peak A.M.

16:05

and peak PM hours.

16:07

Peak PM is a two hour peak AM is a two hour block.

16:11

It's between seven and nine a.m.

16:13

when the most trips are leaving this particular area.

16:16

Uh in the eight and the P.M., those uh the time is between five and seven.

16:22

Those two hour blocks for both AM and PM are when you have the most trips going out, when you have the most trips coming in.

16:28

So from a traffic impact study, you want to see what is the impact when it's most heavily trafficked, and that's those two uh time blocks.

16:36

Uh for this new development.

16:38

What I wanted to do was capture how many new trips are we talking about during those peak times.

16:42

It's 43 new trips in the morning and 48 new trips coming home in the evening.

16:46

That's the impact just in terms of the number, the raw number, and what does that mean?

16:51

And you can see from uh this proposed development, that number of trips is not considered very high at all.

16:56

But what does it really mean in terms of the future operations of the surrounding road networks and intersections?

17:03

Importantly, the traffic study looked at the intersections along Powers Ferry, uh being Scott Road as well as uh at Powers Ferry at Scott, Powers Ferry at Goldie, as well as Powers Ferry and Scott and Goldie and Blanch, excuse me, as well as the intersection along Blanch for the one access and the intersection with Franklin Gateway.

17:28

Those were the intersections that were studied.

17:30

What is that impact?

17:31

All studied intersections have a level of service of B or better.

17:35

No intersection suffers impact from this proposed development.

17:40

In fact, the range of impact for any intersection during either the A.M.

17:44

or the PM time frame is 0.1 second to 0.8 seconds of delay.

17:49

You as an individual would have to wait once this development went in, according to the traffic study.

17:55

So the traffic impact at those specific intersections for the surrounding residents and those the future residents would be less than one second.

18:03

And as a result, the traffic study concluded that based on the analysis results, the impact on traffic operations in the study network from the proposed development will be minimal.

18:13

That was the conclusion from the professional third-party traffic engineer.

18:18

This is a traffic study that's been reviewed by your public works department and accepted and approved by them in terms of what their recommendations are from a public works standpoint.

18:30

Lastly, I wanted to highlight the stipulations, the conditions that are being proposed as part of this development that only come with this development as proposed.

18:39

First and foremost is a contribution to the city of 107,000.

18:43

That's 308% of the estimated costs for the road improvements to Scott Drive and Crest Ridge Drive.

18:49

That was from public works in terms of wanting to have certain road improvements to Scott and Crestridge.

18:56

Per the traffic study, this potential development, if approved and built, the traffic would be 38% of those trips would be going out the Crest Ridge, Scott Drive, that right-hand access point, and therefore we wanted to tie our impact to that same number, 38 percent, which is 107,000 contribution costs, so that the city can then have the starting funds for the road improvements to occur.

19:22

Also, we've committed to no construction traffic on the neighborhood streets.

19:26

All construction traffic will be limited to uh the Banberry Blanche Franklin Gateway access point.

19:32

We will have a declaration of covenants, a mandatory homeowners association, which ensures that this new community is part of the overall one, maintains its value and maintains its overall look and appeal and attractiveness.

19:44

Your city ordinance under the PRD has a 5% real limitation, which obviously will be included here, which is likewise very important that you end up with 79 new homeowners for this location.

20:00

We have also provided for full protection of all streams and stream buffers according to all state and state, all city and state of Georgia required buffers and impervious setbacks.

20:06

That is full protection for all streams and stream buffers.

20:09

And lastly, I pointed out to you when we looked at the site plan, all that area that is undisturbed.

20:14

It's more than seven acres of undisturbed area, not seven acres of open space, but seven acres, more than seven acres of undisturbed area.

20:22

Nearly 40 percent of the entire site would be undisturbed through the middle of that site, as well as along 75, which is a tremendous uh amount of acreage being left undisturbed by this development.

20:35

We think that this proposal is a rezoning uh request that presents to you the Trayton Homes neighborhood uh that will fit within the overall neighborhood that is already there at 79 detached homes.

20:48

It is a development that has a lot of intentional design to it.

20:51

It has a lot of uh intentional places for open spaces and parks, not only undisturbed, but parks, park areas and pocket parks, as well as a full amenity.

21:02

It is a design that we believe is need needed here to build 79 detached homes, which only helps our uh overall uh single-family home inventory in the City of Marietta.

21:13

This property has been looked at numerous times, and we feel like uh this proposal is certainly the best proposal to come before this council and one that we would respectfully request your approval with all of the conditions that we have set forth for you.

21:29

I'm here and I can certainly answer any questions that you may have.

21:32

If I am unable to answer questions, uh we certainly have people here from post um from posting properties and trayton homes that can answer those for you.

21:40

Thank you for your time.

21:41

Any questions, Mr.

21:42

Moore?

21:43

Um bedroom breakdown, is it mostly three bedrooms, three to four, or any two bedrooms?

21:51

Mostly three to four.

21:52

Okay.

21:53

Depending on what choices are made with some of the Do we have an idea of what the starting price will be?

22:02

Just wanted to confirm before.

22:03

Yes, the anticipated uh starting home prices will be in the five to six, five to five hundred to six hundred.

22:13

Other questions, Mr.

22:14

Moore?

22:14

Ms.

22:15

Minnesota.

22:18

No uh participation by other audience, please.

22:22

So my questions have to do with driveways.

22:24

Sure.

22:24

How many are of these are the short driveways?

22:28

It's the uh rear loaded section, so on just taking to the left-hand side uh where you see the two alleys, uh that's uh those are the it's only the rear loaded homes.

22:40

So there's there's fourteen in that section, and they have the guest parking that surrounds them along the street.

22:47

Uh then on the right-hand side, uh, there's another 14.

22:51

So it's just a it is a total of 28, but they're very specific, and only those that have the driveways that are rear-loaded for that reason.

23:00

And how wide are the alleyways?

23:04

The like any good lawyer have two answers for you.

23:08

I know you do.

23:10

So uh on the left-hand side, uh, those uh those two alleys, the standard for the City of Marietta is a 20-foot wide alley, and it primarily comes as a result of fire access.

23:23

So fire wants to make sure that if the alley is the primary means of access, that it has 20 feet of width for that.

23:29

So the ones on the left, because the you have uh those alleys and you have certainly the homes that would be towards the end of those alleys, those uh would be primary access drives, and as a result, those are 20 feet in width and uh less than 100 feet in length and therefore meet the fire standard, which is what uh your fire department has confirmed.

23:52

The ones on the right hand side, uh, those alleys are uh a minimum of 16 feet in width, but they're not the primary access for fire purposes because there's a the street goes all the way around those units, and so they can perfectly access those units and uh and from a fire standpoint they they do not have an issue with that.

24:15

Okay, so I'm just gonna add this just as a statement, not so much a question.

24:19

Looking at your application, you refer back to Manje.

24:27

And it talks about how there are no issues with this kind of setup on Manje with the short driveways.

24:36

And I will just go ahead and tell you that while there may not have been police reports, we have had to turn one street into no parking because it became the only place for people to park because there was not adequate parking within Mange, and six-foot driveways do not work.

24:54

They simply six foot, seven-foot driveways do not work.

25:00

And then when people start taking up that those other parking spots, then you are using up all the guest spots and you have a delta between what you need and what you have, and it becomes a problem.

25:16

So I I do have an issue with short parking, short driveways, especially six, seven feet.

25:24

Other questions, Mr.

25:24

Moore?

25:25

Mr.

25:25

Dolstein?

25:26

Just want to I do want to draw your attention that there is intentionally guess parking for to it to try to address that that spread all the way around those those areas.

25:37

But I understand your statement.

25:42

Okay.

25:45

For the uh I guess part of my question is Did you ever think about moving instead of going for directly across from Matthews, possibly doing one through closest to Blanche?

25:58

Because I know there's two pieces of property there, one I believe owned by the same landowner is the big piece of property, and the other one I know by the city.

26:08

Have you ever consider looking at that as an entranceway instead of directly across from Matthews?

26:14

This was the property that was for sale.

26:17

Um but if that needed to be accomplished, then that's not a that's something that could be accomplished, let me put it that way.

26:26

Potentially, I mean potentially you have got that property wasn't what was for sale.

26:31

So but that being said, you have got city property as well as um as well as a different another track with a house on it.

26:39

So I would want to I can't say, oh yes, we can do that, but I can say it is something that could be looked at, and if if if it can be accomplished, we would accomplish it.

26:51

Um you have already been asked about the driveways.

27:00

The uh for the billboards on the property, this is theoretically rezoned to residential property.

27:10

Um I cannot easily see the billboards on the property, but I know they're closer to 75.

27:16

Do you um in general?

27:21

I know uh code generally tries to keep billboards away from um on their own individual property or trying to keep them away from residential name because of the fall zone area.

27:29

Right.

27:30

What are what's the lease term left on those billboards at this point?

27:36

The uh there's four existing billboards that have been there for a long time.

27:43

Uh those lease terms uh are uh revolving lease terms according to the owner.

27:49

Um so they are automatically they they automatically turn over uh at various terms at this point in time because there are four different ones ranging anywhere over multiple years.

28:03

So some of them are in year year five, some of them are in year one of another five-year term.

28:10

So it just generally those are it's just I'm trying to give you a basically a a bandwidth or a scope of that or a range.

28:17

So generally within generally all the lease terms would hit another revolving one within the next five years, basically.

28:24

Probably something like that.

28:27

Okay.

28:28

I haven't reviewed them myself.

28:29

I'm just giving you what I was in the information I was provided.

28:33

Okay.

28:34

With regard to the undisturbed buffer.

28:38

That is that property is right next to 75.

28:41

I know there's I know I've heard some noise some presidents uh uh talk about uh noise concerns on that.

28:48

Um how much of the tree thing is going to be left open or on the thing, or is that um on that area?

28:55

Sure.

28:56

The um the area I was highlighting um, which is all along 75 and then through the middle, uh it gets wider, obviously, as it gets towards the right when you look at this plan.

29:07

So all of that is left undisturbed.

29:10

So it's a significant amount uh of tree cover that's there now that is left undisturbed uh down 75.

29:21

Okay.

29:24

I am not sure if you'll be able to answer this one, but I will ask it.

29:28

The uh with the change uh with the development of the property there, do we have an idea of kind of how the noise is going to change for both this proposed neighborhood as well as the existing neighborhood?

29:37

Or is that something the noise levels and whatnot?

29:41

Do we have an idea how that might change with the stuff with the removal of some of the trees there?

29:45

I I do not uh myself.

29:48

Um, you know, it from a noise standpoint, the the fact that you are going to have significant um trees remaining that are against 75, uh that's the number one thing that will help uh from a noise standpoint, certainly for these if this was approved for the future residents that would be buying homes here and for the existing.

30:07

So the having that much acreage, thankfully it's against 75 that is going to remain undisturbed is the number one sound barrier you can have.

30:19

And the traffic study for the most part, it was showing directions to Goldie, Blanche, Bamberry, and then Crestridge up to Scott.

30:32

It didn't take it that's what the uh the assumption were the assumptions that that's where the traffic was going to go or something along those lines, or focusing on those intersections or something like that?

30:42

Yes.

30:43

So from the the traffic study standpoint, the engineer is looking at the where is traffic going.

30:48

Uh they collected the traffic counts uh in the neighborhood itself.

30:53

Uh and the intersections that were studied are the ones that are highlighted at Scott at Powers Ferry at Goldie Drive and as Powers Ferry, and then as you go up Blanch to to Powers Ferry as well uh where this studied intersections.

31:06

Uh so that's how they viewed it, is because people that are would be you know future homeowners here, uh if you're leaving your home, you're either basically you're going somewhere by Powers Ferry west or east, or you're going somewhere by Franklin Gateway or Banbury and in that in that direction.

31:24

So uh that's why those intersections were studied, because those are the direct routes to that uh to Powers Ferry.

31:34

Yeah, just one of the reasons I'm asking about the Matthews things because I'm worried that the traffic is going to go up Matthews as opposed to going to those two.

31:41

So if Matthew Circle uh itself is an in internal street, it doesn't have you don't it runs between two streets, which is how you would get to Powers Ferry.

31:54

From a traffic volume standpoint, it's a it's a very low volume.

31:58

So they're not looking at necessarily cars on a specific street that doesn't directly connect to go to Powers Ferry.

32:06

So they don't anticipate from a traffic engineering standpoint the use of Matthew's circle very much at all uh as it's not the most direct route to Powers Ferry.

32:16

Okay and then similar thing with Herbert on that end, and don't expect them to go up Herbert instead of going to up Scott.

32:23

Right.

32:23

And the per the traffic engineer, uh, if you are exiting the property and leaving to go to and you're gonna go to Powers Ferry and you're going out Crestridge uh and then you turn on Herbert there, your first opportunity to get to Powers Ferry is Scott.

32:39

And so they have to make certain assumptions, and from a traffic engineering assumption, they want to they'd say that most drivers uh over habit will choose the first option rather than the second option to get there.

32:49

And the same with quote coming home or whatnot.

32:52

You're gonna take that.

32:53

So that's why they've identified it as Scott.

32:56

Okay.

32:57

There's more questions for this time.

32:59

Thank you.

33:00

Other questions, Mr.

33:00

Moore?

33:01

Yes, sir.

33:03

What is the average square footage of the homes?

33:05

Is it going to be?

33:07

The average square footage of the homes, I can give you a give you a range as opposed to the average.

33:17

So the uh the minimum home size would be 1,800 square foot going up to say 3,500 square feet.

33:25

So just or around 3,000 to 3,500, depending on what would be finished.

33:32

Did uh you guys look at a plan that would bring that would be less homes that would bring more in line with the uh not having the short driveways and the narrow alleyways.

33:46

Uh approximately how many homes less would you have to exact two.

33:55

The overall design might would have to be adjusted.

33:58

This uh there would be a loss.

34:00

Um, but what you would end up losing uh is pocket parks, once you do that, um which we think add a lot uh to uh not only the interest level uh and the appearance, but you would lose the pocket parks uh and uh in order to accomplish that.

34:23

And again, that's we we feel like we've been able to address it by providing the direct guest parking in front of those homes.

34:31

Uh but I understand your question.

34:32

There is a loss of what happens is this project, when you get to 79 homes, it's that it's not something you necessarily consider, but if you're asking why, at a certain point, the economic feasibility becomes a becomes problematic because whether you're developing this site for 51 homes or 79 homes, the development costs are gonna be exactly the same.

34:56

You're still gonna have to build this street, build the detention ponds, across the stream, they're gonna be exactly the same.

35:00

They're going to be exactly the same.

35:02

The problem is you're just not dividing it by enough, and you're either a greatly increasing the cost of the home to the eventual homeowner or making it simply not feasible.

35:12

If the difference was one or two homes, we could certainly accomplish that.

35:17

But this we really tried to cut it to the bone to bring forward a proposal that works.

35:28

Well, and and I'm speaking of I live in a neighborhood where there are short driveways and I agree with Cheryl.

35:34

People are crossing the grassy areas, parking sideways, uh, or having their cars, you know, out in the alleyway or street.

35:46

And it's not very good.

35:50

Understood.

35:51

And again, what we've tried to do here is limit and be very specific about where that occurred.

35:58

It's not throughout.

35:59

It's very specific and it's associated with a very specific piece whether you have the alley and you have the parking along the front on both on both places where that occurs.

36:10

So it's very specific and very, very limited for that.

36:14

It's about half the homes, though.

36:17

28 out of 79.

36:23

30 percent.

36:26

Just Mr.

36:28

Barr pointed out, but I have gray hair, I've been around a long time.

36:32

You know, I remember that you know Roswell Street was two lanes, it wasn't 75.

36:37

Just how it has affected Powers Ferry, Scott, uh Powers Ferry, just uh Royal Rawlsville and Roswell, you know that there are no buffers there, like going out Powers Ferry, those homes that were converted to business, they they back up you know, and there's very unpleasant odors that come out of some into somebody's backyard.

37:03

But you know, just but I think look at the big most of the things we talked about, any development would have that problem.

37:11

And but except for the six-foot driveway, it just I just wonder if we take all the input now and give them a month and see if you owe that we table it and see if you I mean I think you've heard some sincere, firm reaction to a couple of points, and if we could address it.

37:34

I mean, right now, I mean, just for the public knows that we're in the middle of a lawsuit on one where somebody has sued us for not granting a phone.

37:44

The county object we're in homes on uh Powder Spring Street, and the Cobb County objected to that, and it's gonna be an annexation.

37:55

It yet most of us ran an election in homes, a shortage of homes is a problem.

38:00

So I just it and we're in a fill-in situation.

38:06

I don't want to insult this area, but I remember when it had enough homes to have a good school called Bamberry, which is in doubt if many people in this room could tell you where that was, even.

38:16

I mean it we didn't have a school on the east side of the city for a long time.

38:22

So you you've got to have strong residential to make that area to be all it can be.

38:28

And it just there was a chance.

38:33

And I mean I I can't guess how people are going to vote, but if my nose kills me and I got a big nose, it might not pass.

38:44

Uh and uh I'm addressing both the council and the other.

38:51

Well, certainly from uh and I'm obviously not speaking from my perspective, but from the perspective of Trayton.

38:59

Um they have a long history of working with every jurisdiction that they build communities in.

39:06

So if it's the desire of this council for us to continue to work uh on some identified issues, we would work on the identified issues.

39:19

Um I've always been against real short driveways in in most situations, Cheryl, you know that.

39:27

But I I've looked at this with the um all the parking that goes around the front, and when you when I think about it in that short situation, how you'd have so many cars parked in those alleyways if they were longer that that it that it would be to me it would be just detrimental to have that many cars double parked against against that.

39:54

I in this situation I just don't have a big problem with it.

40:00

Other questions of Mr.

40:00

Moore.

40:01

Other questions?

40:02

Thank you, Mr.

40:03

Moore.

40:04

Stay close by.

40:04

This is a public hearing.

40:06

If anyone would like to speak at this time, there is a five-minute limit.

40:10

Anybody that wants to speak, please come forward.

40:15

I mean you get two minutes.

40:18

If you'll come forward, state your name and address and uh succinctly present your objection if you have any.

40:26

Lily Reed, 230 Scott Drive, Southeast.

40:29

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak.

40:32

The city's zoning ordinance has several stated purposes, as noted in Code Section 700.

40:41

One, to protect existing development in the city, like my neighborhood.

40:46

I would note that the staff report, page nine, clearly states this project is markedly different from the surrounding neighborhood, and reiterates the paramount purpose of the zoning code is to protect existing development in the city, with the clear suggesting suggestion that this proposed rezoning does not meet that standard.

41:05

The most significant issue here, which I believe is underemphasized in the staff report, is that city code stipulates that connections to developments over 51 units should be to arterial or collector streets, and the only possible connections in the circumstance are to local neighborhood streets.

41:26

Second point is to prevent overcrowding of schools.

41:29

I would remind this body that half of the schools serving this development are already over capacity.

41:34

I would also remind you that 247 apartments and 39 townhomes are already under construction less than one mile away.

42:04

Interestingly, just today, this morning, in fact, Marietta Power and Water was involved in a wreck at the same intersection.

42:14

I would argue that existing conditions already present a demonstrable traffic hazard, particularly for pedestrians who are an important component of neighborhood street traffic that remain entirely unconsidered by the professional traffic study submitted by Mr.

42:29

Moore.

42:30

I am far more concerned about pedestrian and vehicular safety in my neighborhood than I am about how this will impact my ability to exit the neighborhood.

42:38

Although, based on today's rec, there might be reason for concern there as well.

42:44

Number four, to secure accessibility, design and density of land development, as will reduce fire hazards.

42:50

Mr.

42:50

Rice spoke to this planning commission last week.

42:53

Additionally, the data appendix to this application, page 20, clearly states that life safety, fire, and Georgia accessibility codes and local ordinances are not adequately satisfied.

43:04

Concerning.

43:05

Number five, to improve the quality of life through protection of the city's total environment, including the protection of air, visual, water, and noise pollution.

43:13

Among other things, I question whether the sound impacts of this development have been fully addressed.

43:18

Removing trees removes important sound buffers, and there is no acoustic shielding on the portion of 75 that adjoins this property.

43:26

I agree that a residential designation is the most appropriate for this site.

43:31

However, eight variances and one stipulation have been requested for this development.

43:36

Variances should be reserved for exceptional cases.

43:40

They should not be used as a workaround for site plans that are not in alignment with the city's own development regulations.

43:46

In this case, the requested variances would create negative impacts on the community in contradiction to the intended goals of this body.

43:54

Meanwhile, I would argue that site conditions are not sufficiently difficult to require variances.

44:00

Better site planning would solve those issues handily.

44:03

There is a simple solution that will allow the city to address all of these issues, cap the development at 51 units, and make that number a condition of the rezoning.

44:13

Fifty-one units would allow compliance with street widths for state fire code, wider streets, particularly for emergency vehicles, larger lot sizes, more compatible with surrounding development, appropriately sized driveways and space for turnarounds, and for the city to maintain compliance with its own code of ordinance, which sets a better precedent for future city development.

44:37

Mr.

44:38

Moore likes to plead negligible traffic impacts.

44:40

I would argue that is a matter of perspective.

44:43

I've also heard him claim that lowering the number of units would require them to eliminate the amenities for this development, which felt like a distraction from the central issue here.

44:52

I would remind this body that the amenities will be available to no one but the new residents, at least the active amenities, while the negative impacts will be borne by all.

45:00

I would implore this body not to be distracted from the foundational issues you are here to enforce by talk of promised amenities or negligible traffic impacts.

45:12

Thank you.

45:22

Let me repeat that there's no applause or comment or anything allowed during a public hearing.

45:27

Is there anyone else that would like to speak?

45:32

Again, name and address, you have five minutes.

45:35

George Balbona, B-A-L-B-O-N-A, 180 Matthews Circle.

45:40

It's the little stub up there.

45:43

That's right across from the main entrance.

45:44

They call it developmental driveway number one, but let's be serious.

45:47

That's the entrance to the exit.

45:48

And the at the session work session on Monday, they're talking about getting that as close as possible to Matthew Circle.

45:54

So you know what my street's gonna become?

45:56

An extended driveway for this development.

45:58

Okay?

45:59

That's the bad.

46:00

And it's not on the it's not on the traffic study at all.

46:04

That intersection.

46:05

And if you look at the traffic study, there's a table with four intersections.

46:08

But then it when you look at the public works, it expands to five.

46:13

That intersection is not in the traffic study.

46:15

I spoke to Victor, the engineer who did the track traffic study, and he learned a lot speaking with me.

46:20

And when you were asking about the intersection for the main entrance, you meant Banberry, not Blanche because it's perpendicular to it.

46:28

Anyway.

46:30

I don't like my street being invisible when you're thinking about what you're gonna do there.

46:36

And uh besides that, uh one thing I do agree with Kevin with is that that that uh forest, that evergreen forest right there is a fantastic sound buffer.

46:46

I was a professor and I talked about the physics of sound.

46:49

Okay.

46:50

And yes, keeping that little bit is gonna be good.

46:53

But you're taking a big chunk out the back.

46:55

And what we have up on 75 is not adequate.

46:58

I would request a noise study.

47:00

It's very cheap, very in a very quick, and just get some noise disimeters.

47:05

Do it do them right there next to the barrier on the by the forest and out by the street, and you can figure out how much noise that that forest is uh absorbing.

47:13

Because when me and my wife are on the back deck, autumn and winter, it's really frickin' loud.

47:18

And you want to know why?

47:20

Because we have oak trees and all the leaves fall.

47:22

And that's trees still there with the branches and the leaves just falling.

47:25

The evergreens do a lot better job of absorbing the noise.

47:28

And you take all that out, the neighborhood's gonna get loud, it's gonna get loud for this new development as well.

47:33

We need to get better sound noise barriers on 75.

47:37

That's just has to happen.

47:39

Um to start.

47:46

I got two minutes.

47:46

Let's get to the bad.

47:48

We got 63.6,000 people in Marietta.

47:51

Almost 2900 of them are attorneys.

47:55

I don't think it is too much to ask that the city attorney for the planning commission is not related to Kevin Moore, which he is.

48:03

That's a conflict of interest.

48:04

They are cousins in the law.

48:06

And if you look Google it, they'll say, Yeah, he should have announced that and recused himself.

48:10

Okay?

48:11

And it just to get on, you know, this good old boy network.

48:14

How about this?

48:15

How about we don't have, like for the planning commission and Doug over here.

48:20

For the city council, two guys that are partners at the same law firm.

48:24

Isn't that a little bit oversized influence on you guys?

48:27

How about we spread the wealth?

48:28

There's 2900 attorneys.

48:30

Let's get people that are from different firms, not partners at the same firm.

48:37

I don't think that's too much to ask, do you?

48:41

Yeah, potential conflict of interest.

48:43

I think it's really bad optics.

48:45

Other bad optics is uh Daniel White right after the meeting where it gets passed, walking out here, walking past a group of people who are con and walking over and shaking hands with with Kevin and with Cliff post and the COO of Trayton.

48:58

That's fine.

48:59

I don't have a problem with Trayton being there, okay?

49:02

They build great houses.

49:03

I don't want 79.

49:04

You're saying widening the streets, let's be honest.

49:06

What you're doing is you're gonna buy a chunk, you're gonna take a chunk, hopefully you're buying a chunk of people's property.

49:12

And that has a negative impact on the value of their house.

49:14

Okay?

49:15

That's right off the bat.

49:17

And I'm not even in one of those, there's that you're trying to do it to.

49:21

Let's be honest about what you're talking about.

49:23

The uh one of the things that Kevin writes about this community is that these pocket parks, these great pocket parks, will be available to the the residents and their guests.

49:34

Resident Is he talking about residents of the neighborhood or just this new residents?

49:39

Because to me, guests sounds like this is a gated community.

49:43

And all we're getting is the negative impacts, and I'm sick of the pocket park BS.

49:49

We have one park in ward nine.

49:54

It's a pocket park.

49:56

It has two picnic tables and no parking.

50:00

If you look at it, I gave you this breakdown of all the parks.

50:02

Maybe you can have Rich look at it before he leaves.

50:05

Sure, your five minutes.

50:06

No, it's not.

50:06

I got 29 seconds.

50:07

I hit it when I got here, Doug.

50:09

Go for it.

50:09

So we have.024% parked uh percentage of the ward to the park.

50:16

We are the largest ward.

50:18

Okay?

50:19

We have one park, it's a pocket park.

50:21

I'm sick of that.

50:21

Uh you go over to uh ward five, they have sixteen.

50:25

There's one with ten, five, three, three, two.

50:29

All right.

50:30

You look at every metric.

50:32

And I got you guys all have this, every metric, and we should have a park.

50:37

Thank you.

50:38

No applause, please.

50:39

Next speaker.

50:40

Next speaker.

50:40

No applause.

50:48

Good evening.

50:49

My name is Sullimar Diaz.

50:51

I live at 624 Seminole Street.

50:54

Thank you for that.

50:57

I'm speaking tonight just because from what I heard, I'm deeply concerned about this proposed development.

51:04

Specifically with the rent and with the starting price of that rent.

51:08

According to the U.S.

51:09

Census Borough, which everybody can look up, median household income in Marietta is about $70,000 a year.

51:16

That's roughly $5,800 a month before taxes.

51:20

So asking families to spend almost all of their income on rent is unrealistic and unsustainable.

51:27

Right now, the median rent in Marietta is about $1,700 a month.

51:32

That's according to Zillow and rent cafe data.

51:35

That means that this development is almost three times higher than what's typical in our city.

51:41

This kind of project doesn't address our actual housing needs.

51:45

There are people with actual housing needs in Marietta.

51:48

We have people that work for the city that can't even afford to live here.

51:51

So building this development, it feels like it's we're just taking 10 steps backwards at this point.

51:58

I've already expressed before my concerns with the unaffordability of Marietta.

52:05

And building this just solidifies that.

52:54

Next speaker, no applause.

52:55

No applause, please.

52:57

Mr.

52:57

Barr.

52:58

Donald Barth, I'm gonna make this quick.

53:01

This is a great project.

53:03

We all know it's a good project.

53:05

We all know that Trayton is a good home builder.

53:09

There's a couple of quirks in there, six-foot driveways and all that.

53:13

We have met with Trayton.

53:15

We have asked for certain things.

53:17

We're gonna get some help widening the road at Crest Ridge.

53:20

We're going to get some help closing up the ditch that's along Herbert Drive.

53:26

We're getting something for nothing, so to speak.

53:29

They're coming in and we're gonna get that.

53:32

Now, to have somebody come in here and start talking about rental units, they wouldn't be building this if they didn't have a market.

53:40

So if we need rental units, find some.

53:56

Now, at this time, all I can tell you is we've run into a couple of issues.

54:01

The driveway, and you guys are the ones that have to think about that.

54:05

That's on y'all.

54:07

It's not going to affect one of us in the existing Cloverdale neighborhood.

54:13

What will affect us is the roads.

54:15

Herbert Drive is the better exit out of that neighborhood, not Scott.

54:20

Go look at Scott.

54:22

It's gonna be impossible to widen Scott, whereas Herbert will have the less impact and the less impact going into Powers Ferry.

54:31

So there are little things that the neighbors can help you with.

54:35

We can't fix the parking.

54:37

Thank you.

54:38

There's one minute left.

54:39

If any speaker would like take up the last minute.

54:42

Come on down.

54:43

Come on down.

54:48

Take your name and address, please, ma'am.

54:56

My name is Jessica Broce, and I've lived here for more than 35 years.

55:00

I just wanted a second because they pretty much summarized all the point.

55:02

The last three people before this gentleman here.

55:07

Where do you live?

55:08

Excuse me?

55:09

Where did you say you live?

55:11

In Mary, Georgia.

55:14

You have to give you a dress.

55:15

Oh, I'm sorry.

55:15

1196 Unit H Ashware Drive.

55:19

Didn't the last speaker give an address?

55:20

No.

55:21

Everyone knows where journalists.

55:22

I don't need to.

55:26

I would give you your address.

55:27

Yeah.

55:28

Yes, sir.

55:30

Don't speak for mine.

55:32

Give me a second.

55:33

I like your address.

55:35

Del Barth, 1641 St.

55:38

John Avenue, the same as it was yesterday in 20 something years.

55:42

Thank you.

55:45

The time has expired, Mayor Tumman.

55:47

The time is expired.

55:48

Mr.

55:48

Moore has two minutes left on his presentation if he wants to use them.

56:10

I think that reducing the number of homes makes the affordability less so.

56:16

I think that also in this instance we are asking for a number of variances, but those variances would be required to in order to do a PRD single family development of this location just by the nature of that ordinance.

56:32

The number of those variances are going to be present no matter what you do here.

56:37

So simply looking at the variances as a, well, that's why this shouldn't be approved, is just to me elevating form over substance.

56:44

Any development of this property for residential purposes under your PRD ordinance is going to require those variances no matter what.

56:51

It may not require the driveway variants, but it but the vi the vast majority of them would be.

58:31

So you can build an Amazon warehouse there.

58:35

A type of Amazon.

58:36

You can do Amazon parking, uh would be a permitted use there.

58:40

Uh any type of parking for vehicles to create uh that that type of use.

58:45

Uh there's a number of uses it could be.

58:50

All of them.

58:50

A good number of them.

58:51

All of them.

58:52

Except for the very minimal buffer areas.

58:55

But I don't want to stand here and talk about what it what it could be.

58:58

But yes, uh, that's the answer to your question.

59:00

Those are the types of uses.

59:06

What if we had a question about the mayor?

59:12

Let's just say we voted the taper.

59:16

Would you all consider the alternative, you know, based on everything you've heard of course?

59:21

Absolutely.

59:23

The fortunate part of having this particular applicant, trait and homes.

59:28

Their principals live here too.

59:30

And they make their corporate and personal homes here in the City of Marietta.

59:35

They're just as dedicated as everybody that's in this room, just as dedicated as the genuine opposition that was here and that spoke tonight, and as you as elected officials, to bring forward the best project that we can.

59:45

So is there a willingness?

59:47

There would be absolutely a willingness.

59:48

You there's no doubt.

59:50

And then from a practical point of view, the the young lady brought up a affordable.

59:56

You know, affordable, you know, for more people.

1:00:00

If you go from 79 houses down to 51, would that would that raise the cost 40 percent?

1:00:05

Absolutely.

1:00:05

That cost has to be passed along.

1:00:11

I mean, that's the reality that one of the zoning stipulations that you brought up was the limit in this whole development of 5 percent is all you can rent out.

1:00:25

So it's it's not a rental subdivision.

1:00:27

No, no, I'll be just talking about the price of a house.

1:00:30

If it's around 450 or 500, you go it to 630 or that's per city.

1:00:38

That's in the city ordinance.

1:00:39

So the city code provides that for residential developments.

1:00:42

That was a change that was made many years ago by the city.

1:00:46

Where everything we you know, over the years, it's the builders, it's the cotton developer that puts in the sidewalks, is the developer puts in the curve and gutter, developer underground utilities.

1:00:58

So you want to have nice subdivisions, we've it it I mean the cost is almost cost more.

1:01:06

Yes.

1:01:11

Yes, sir.

1:01:12

So um I guess in the due diligence as well.

1:01:16

Have you guys had an opportunity to talk with Soyu Road?

1:01:19

Because it says that that's going to be potentially the elementary school.

1:01:24

Have you guys sat down with uh you know the principals there to make sure that you know there's enough room for whatever development that would be coming in?

1:01:35

We have not spoken to to Sawyer Road.

1:01:38

No, we we have not.

1:01:39

Uh city staff uh in preparing their report um they have communicated that to the school district, to the city school district to see if they had any comment that we but we have not.

1:01:50

That's not a typically what we would what we would do as part of our due diligence.

1:01:57

We're happy to go sit with them and I would recommend that you guys have a conversation with the principal and you know, kind of have the discussion of what the potential could be and find out what the um availability is for kids if they'll be coming to that school, you know, just to make sure that there is enough room and all of that.

1:02:26

So that would be my recommendation.

1:02:29

Absolutely.

1:02:32

The gentleman met your Matthew Circle and it lining up with the entrance.

1:02:37

Is that by our design?

1:02:38

Is it the streets have to be right across from each other?

1:02:42

Well, I think that public works has urged us to either get it as lined up as much as possible or as far away as possible, but regardless, it's going to have to be a three-way stop there.

1:02:52

I think that was Mr.

1:02:53

Rice's impetus behind that.

1:02:57

But as far as the uh as far as Matthew Circle goes, that that's why it's there.

1:03:03

That's where that property comes out that was that was the track was there.

1:03:06

We'll certainly look at potential other options as well.

1:03:18

Since we've been dealing with zone on this property for over 30 years, I mean in my opinion, it's a major breakthrough that he started to sell property for residential.

1:03:31

And I hope we can work something out where that momentum can continue.

1:03:37

Because he's going to sell it sooner or later.

1:03:41

Yep, and somebody's going to build something probably not as good as this.

1:03:46

These are all single family detached.

1:03:48

All single family detached, correct.

1:03:56

Hearing is closed.

1:03:58

Public hearing is closed.

1:03:59

Mr.

1:04:00

Mayor?

1:04:00

Yes, sir.

1:04:01

Would you like a motion?

1:04:02

Yes, sir.

1:04:04

Given the number of concerns uh if expressive prown council and also out from the community on some of the stuff, I think that there is some more um work that might need to be done.

1:04:14

Uh so Kevin, are you okay?

1:04:17

Um is your client okay with the table for a table for a month in order to try and work out some of these concerns and take a look, take a look at these?

1:04:26

Yes.

1:04:27

In that case, my motion is to table this application table this until the December count council meeting, which would be held December 10th, correct, Bill?

1:04:36

Yes, sir.

1:04:37

Yes.

1:04:38

That would be at 7 p.m.

1:04:40

at that on that day.

1:04:44

I would second that.

1:04:46

But also I'd like for it to come through JL so we could review the progress.

1:04:56

Let's just encourage it.

1:05:00

When is the JL meeting, Bill?

1:05:03

27.

1:05:05

25th.

1:05:08

On the 25th.

1:05:10

Right, it's the 25th.

1:05:11

Two weeks from yesterday.

1:05:12

Yeah.

1:05:14

One of those, if it's going if you are asking for review, it needs it the public needs to know exactly when those meetings are happening.

1:05:20

An update.

1:05:22

No use of anybody.

1:05:30

The December 10th date needs additional time, is what you're saying on that one.

1:05:34

That kind of update.

1:05:36

If they want to ask to ask for to be tabled further or something like that.

1:05:39

Let me just read about the simplest that.

1:05:44

Just as long as away.

1:05:46

Or never mind.

1:05:49

Your motion is good.

1:05:50

Yeah.

1:05:53

Sorry, it's just we'll make sure we're going by going by everything correctly.

1:05:57

So at this point, a motion to table to the December to the December council meeting.

1:06:02

Which is going to be on December 10th.

1:06:05

Recession or recession at 6.

1:06:08

The main council meeting at 7 work session the two days before on that Monday before.

1:06:13

At 5.15.

1:06:15

Just so everyone knows those meet those meeting times and dates.

1:06:19

Any further discussion?

1:06:22

All those in favor of the table, please indicate your vote.

1:06:30

Motion to table pass the 7-0.

1:06:33

Good luck.

1:06:36

I really want it to get.

1:06:39

Thank you to everyone.

1:07:33

And eight variants.

1:08:00

Yes, sir, mayor.

1:08:14

The floor is yours.

1:08:16

Thank you again, Mr.

1:08:17

Haney, for case Z 2025-21.

1:08:20

The owners, James Gleason, Ellen Gleason, and Sarah Gaffner are requesting the rezoning of 59 Trammel Street from R 4, single family residential, to R4 with an increased density of 5.5 units per acre for the purposes of subdividing the lot into two lots.

1:08:37

Along with this request are four variances, one for the 59 Tramel, or two for the 59 Trammell Street property, and two for the Reynolds Street lot.

1:08:46

And Miss Ellen Gleason is here to present on behalf of the project.

1:09:02

I'm Ellen Gleason, the homeowner of 59 Trammel Street.

1:09:16

This would allow me to subdivide the property and create a new buildable lot facing Reynolds Street.

1:09:23

The total square footage for the tramel lot would be 8,194 square feet.

1:09:30

And for the Reynolds lot, 7,501 square feet.

1:09:36

Two variances would be required, decreasing the minimum lot widths from the required 75 feet to 59 feet on tramel and from 75 feet to 65 feet on rentals.

1:09:52

I'm also asking to decrease the side setbacks from 10 feet to 5 feet.

1:10:00

If the rezoning is approved, the density per acre would increase from 4 units per acre to 5.5 units per acre.

1:10:10

There's a lot supporting this rezoning.

1:10:13

The density for much of the housing in this area is already greater than four units per acre, as the zoning code was not in place when many of these homes were built.

1:10:25

The future land use plan supports this rezoning as it recommends densities in this area to be between five and eight units per acre.

1:10:36

And while the property is not in the city's residential infill overlay district, my request aligns with the district's goals, promoting the subdivision of residential property beyond the standard density and size restrictions.

1:10:53

The comprehensive plan supports this rezoning as it recommends additional residences towards the central part of the city.

1:11:02

And finally, there's precedent for this rezoning with the recent approval of 67 Trammel Street, which was approved for an increased density from four units per acre to 6.9 units per acre.

1:11:17

Thank you for your consideration and time.

1:11:19

And I ask that you approve my request.

1:11:23

Any question, Ms.

1:11:24

Gleason, if you'll stay there.

1:11:27

Chair I yield to sure I will yield.

1:11:29

I only have a question on the side setbacks.

1:11:32

Why are you looking at decreasing from 10 to 5?

1:11:36

I just thought it would be an advantageous for whomever builds on rentals.

1:11:41

Personally, I don't need it, but I just thought that it would be advantageous for whomever bills on rentals.

1:11:48

Thank you.

1:11:50

Mr.

1:11:51

That actually was basically my question.

1:11:54

Other question, Ms.

1:11:55

Leeson?

1:11:56

Other questions?

1:11:57

Of course.

1:11:57

I would say great moments.

1:11:59

This is more to you, Doug.

1:12:01

Are there any sidewalks on Rental Street?

1:12:06

No.

1:12:09

They're not in not in front of that property.

1:12:11

Yes, there are sidewalks on the opposite side of the street.

1:12:16

Yes, my concern is that because I have one in my ward that was approved before I came on council, and then they came back and wanted the city to put sidewalks in.

1:12:27

Well, it is on it is on the opposite side of the street.

1:12:31

Okay.

1:12:34

Other question, Ms.

1:12:35

Gleason?

1:12:36

Other questions?

1:12:37

Is it going to be a residential house or would be an R4, yes, sir.

1:12:42

With re-increased density, has to be a house.

1:12:44

And can't be any more than like, I don't know, 35 feet in height.

1:12:56

If that's required.

1:12:57

I have a dog, so if they build, I have to put a fence in.

1:13:03

Other question, Ms.

1:13:04

Gleason.

1:13:06

If you'll stay close by this public hearing, if anyone would like to speak on this matter, now is the time to do it, please come forward.

1:13:12

Mayor Tillman, the public hearing is closed.

1:13:15

You have one person.

1:13:29

Please state your name and address.

1:13:30

You have five minutes.

1:13:32

Yes, I'm Susie Clark, and my address is 1270 Whitlock Ridge Drive, Southwest.

1:13:40

So now you know it, that old.

1:13:42

Anyway, I um I keep hearing, so I'm new to this whole bit.

1:13:48

I keep hearing these variances requested, but there's also mention of other variances that have been granted throughout the city.

1:13:58

So as you add more variances of more adjustments, whatever, um you're giving precedence to other people doing this.

1:14:12

And I think you need to be careful and maybe shut it down at some point in time of these allowances that you're giving people that will be precedences to give other people allowances, and that's my own only thing.

1:14:31

Thank you, ma'am.

1:14:32

One last chance.

1:14:33

Anyone would like to speak.

1:14:34

Mayor Tumman City Council, the public hearings closed.

1:14:38

Mayor recognizes Mr.

1:14:39

Walker Ward 3.

1:14:42

I would like to make a motion to approve.

1:14:45

Second.

1:14:48

Mr.

1:14:48

Mayor may ask one other question.

1:14:54

If the side setback is decreased, I think I saw a note in the staff analysis saying that any bit um any structures going within that has to be sprinkled, correct?

1:15:05

Yes, sir.

1:15:07

Less than 20 feet, it has to be sprinkled.

1:15:09

So we have just if the if that variance passes real as if anything is built in that area, it's gotta be it's gotta get it's gotta bring it right up to the fire code in that case.

1:15:22

So understand?

1:15:24

I think anybody would do that anyway.

1:15:26

Are you asking me if I understand?

1:15:27

Yeah.

1:15:27

Yes.

1:15:29

I'd like to make an amend um a substitute motion, please.

1:15:34

I'd like to make a motion that we approve this with the variance for the lot size, but not with the side setbacks.

1:15:46

So no side setbacks, just the difference in the lot sizes.

1:15:54

One second.

1:15:55

The lot size isn't the issue.

1:15:58

The lot width.

1:15:59

Okay, going from 75 to nine 59.

1:16:02

That's so allowing those fine side setbacks no.

1:16:12

So you're fine with that.

1:16:15

Yes, sir.

1:16:17

Okay.

1:16:20

So we have the sub team.

1:16:24

Motion says to meet amendment.

1:16:27

Uh please indicate your vote on the amendment.

1:16:37

The amendment carries seven mo.

1:16:39

Now we have the full motion before us.

1:16:42

Any further discussion?

1:16:44

It's okay.

1:16:46

All those please indicate your vote.

1:16:51

Okay, reach it.

1:16:53

Motion carries.

1:16:54

Thank you, ma'am.

1:16:58

The next item is kind of fabricated the uh item 090 of the code amendment.

1:17:09

As it relates to our fire schedule.

1:17:12

Mr.

1:17:12

Mayor, would you like a motion?

1:17:15

I make a motion to suspend the rules and waive the second reading for item 2025 code amendment relating to fire scheduling change.

1:17:25

Second.

1:17:28

Any discussion.

1:17:31

Please indicate your vote is to waive in the second reading.

1:17:40

Go with a three-day weekend, Chief.

1:17:46

It's for fire suppression guests not changed.

1:17:54

I'd like to open up the floor for unscheduled appearance.

1:17:57

If any citizen would like to come forward and be heard, please do so at this time.

1:18:11

Good evening.

1:18:11

My name is Jereen Bonner Willis.

1:18:13

I live at 469 Washington Avenue, Marietta, Georgia.

1:18:19

I am here before the council to say thank you.

1:18:26

For many, what probably 20 six plus years support in Juneteenth.

1:18:34

And I'd like to personally say thank you for uh the supplemental support that we have that's gonna help some of our students with scholarships.

1:18:44

So I wanted to personally come before you on behalf of the Cobb County NAACP.

1:18:49

Um council.

1:18:51

Those of you all that have been with us from the inception of Juneteenth, I'd like to say thank you for your service, thank you for your support, and I really appreciate that you all deemed it possible to allow us to get a supplement so that we can make a difference in the education of Juneteenth and it's a in its importance in our community.

1:19:13

So thank you again for your continued support.

1:19:16

Look forward to working with the future council.

1:19:19

Those of you all that will remain and those that are coming in, but thank you again.

1:19:28

Thank you, ma'am.

1:19:30

So Mr.

1:19:30

Mayor, I'm gonna just change this microphone just a little.

1:19:33

Um for those of you who are aware a couple weeks ago I did a program with a nonprofit in this in the city, but it's a community-wide, it's all Cobb County, and I met this amazing young man, and I told him, come here and do if nothing else, introduce yourself.

1:19:53

This young man is definitely our future.

1:19:55

I was gonna steal him from his parents, but they're here, so I don't think that's gonna happen.

1:20:00

Introduce yourself and tell them where you got a school.

1:20:03

Okay, so my name is Jacob O'Neill, and I go to Soy Road Elementary.

1:20:09

I'm here to uh talk to you about some of the things that you guys have said throughout here.

1:20:16

So I see some familiar faces and some new faces.

1:20:23

So can I get um six over ward six?

1:20:32

Um do you know um the um the person over city council for ward six uh over school council for ward six?

1:20:48

Yes.

1:20:49

It's now Christina.

1:20:50

Not sure.

1:20:52

Okay, so I was saying um if we were gonna get a longer um longer extension for uh the school adjustments.

1:21:11

I can definitely have a conversation with the uh new school board um representative for ward six.

1:21:20

Be happy to do that.

1:21:24

Thank you and have a good day.

1:21:38

All right.

1:21:40

Hello everyone.

1:21:41

Uh my name is Jerome Boite.

1:21:43

Uh live on Westchester Circle, Southwest.

1:21:46

Quick question Um, are we asking questions or is it just a statement?

1:21:50

This is not a question and answer session.

1:21:51

Okay, cool beans.

1:21:52

Well, I walk a mile and a half across uh Whitlock Drive down to get to the bus stops, and um very oftentimes I always meet up with another lady, she's about twice my age, and she lives on Manning, and she walks about two miles, over two miles to get to that bus stop.

1:22:13

I just wanted to let you guys know that you know we see like trucks and big, you know, school buses drive across Whitlock all the time.

1:22:22

And we just think that it would be very much convenient for not only people of Marietta, but residents who live over there on those roads on Whitlock to be able to have a bus that actually goes down there and takes us over to the square, and it will really clear up some traffic too.

1:22:39

So that's all I got to say.

1:22:40

Thank you.

1:22:51

All right.

1:22:52

I'm Rosser Sutherland, 386 Alexander Circle.

1:22:55

I just wanted to be positive tonight and congratulate everybody that's been elected or re-elected, and you know, I know a few of y'all are getting ready to leave.

1:23:05

You know, I'm just joking, you know, y'all been here majority of my life.

1:23:10

Um also want to congratulate Jason and T and see Jesse here, you know and and Sam.

1:23:19

Um everybody ran good races, and you know, uh sometimes elections bring out the worst of all of us, and you know, I want to I want to address Mr.

1:23:28

Foster through the board that he's ran a good campaign, and um, you know, it's the first I would say I would I would say um you know this is probably the first real competitive mayor's election we've had in a while and and it was probably a healthy thing for our city.

1:23:44

And um, you know, and and um everything turned out the way I wanted to, you know, I just wanted to congratulate everybody and um you know just try to keep a positive tone through the whole thing.

1:23:56

Thank you.

1:24:03

Hello.

1:24:04

It was a very interesting and heated election.

1:24:07

It's fun.

1:24:08

It was not fun at all, but we did it.

1:24:10

We're on the other side.

1:24:11

Uh were you oh who am I?

1:24:15

I don't know who I am.

1:24:17

Sam Foster, I live near uh Marita High School.

1:24:19

My address is public if you're curious.

1:24:22

Um yeah, very interesting hearing the election cycle.

1:24:25

Um, you know, people ask me why did I do that?

1:24:27

That was a little bit crazy.

1:24:28

I'm 24.

1:24:29

Um, and the whole time uh going through the experience, and the reason I come to these city of council meetings, even after losing, uh, is because the main thing that is driving me, the thing that is pulling my strings, if you will, is the desire to see my community improve.

1:24:43

The desire to see the things that I want to see, uh the things that uh uh the desire to see a Marietta improve in a way that I think is beneficial to everybody who lives here.

1:24:52

Uh so while I was out knocking doors personally, I knocked, uh I believe it was uh 1,700 doors, talking to different residents, talking to my neighbors, hearing about people resonating with what we were talking about.

1:25:03

Um we heard a lot of discussion today about affordable housing.

1:25:06

I know that is the the uh the great debate.

1:25:09

Um bike and pedestrian safety.

1:25:12

We also have the public transit question, which I know we all have different opinions about.

1:25:15

But uh there are so many different things that even in our city plans, the comprehensive plan, we've laid out that I feel like we could be doing a lot better of a job at.

1:25:23

And clearly, uh at least 49.7% of people agree.

1:25:27

Um so whatever we take away from the selection cycle, whatever you take away from uh this moment going forward, I would love to see us be more responsive, uh, just follow through on a lot of the things that we've talked about in the past, uh, and just be more open-minded.

1:25:41

Um is changing, we're gonna continue to change, and we should be working with the people who are going to be here for that change.

1:25:47

I know some of you are term-limited, um, so we can pass the torch to the next generation and make a great city uh even greater.

1:25:54

Uh again, thank you, and uh congratulations again to the mayor uh and everybody else who won the races.

1:26:00

Um and I look forward to being here.

1:26:03

I'm not going anywhere, uh, and working with uh all of you going to the future.

1:26:07

Thank you.

1:26:18

Anyone else like to come forward, be heard?

1:26:22

I'd like to close the public session, seeing none.

1:26:25

We have an aid for executive session.

1:26:27

Yes, sir.

1:26:28

Yes, sir.

1:26:28

Okay, property acquisition and disposition.

1:26:32

Any singer there are a motion for property acquisition.

1:26:36

Second.

1:26:38

All those in favor, please raise your right hand.

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Summary of Proceedings

Marietta City Council Meeting: November 12, 2025

The Marietta City Council convened for a meeting featuring post-election remarks, routine consent agenda items, and a public hearing on a significant residential rezoning proposal. The session included discussions on community changes, housing development feasibility, and local infrastructure concerns, culminating in a decision to table the primary rezoning application for further review while approving related lot subdivisions and code amendments.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved unanimously (7-0): The consent agenda was approved following a minor adjustment to Item 20250900 (Code Amendment related to fire scheduling change), confirming its effective date as January 4, 2026.
  • Code Amendment 20250900: A motion to suspend rules and waive the second reading for the fire scheduling change code amendment was approved.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Donald Barth: Expressed pride in the election results and offered full support for the Mayor, stating, "You have done what you said you'd do, and we continue on." He emphasized the need for a strong council to support the Mayor.
  • Tracy Stevenson: Expressed the position that the council needs to "get a little younger" to better incorporate young folks, noting that the young electorate has indicated this desire.
  • Lily Reed: Expressed strong opposition to the Trayton proposal. She argued that the project fails to comply with city code regarding connections to arterial streets, threatens school overcrowding, and lacks adequate safety measures. She proposed capping the development at 51 units as a solution to meet code compliance.
  • George Balbona: Expressed significant concern regarding the impact on his residence, specifically that his street (Matthews Circle) would become a "developmental driveway," and requested a noise study due to the removal of forest buffers. He also raised concerns about potential conflicts of interest regarding the City Attorney's relationship to the applicant's counsel.
  • Sullimar Diaz: Expressed opposition based on housing affordability, stating that the projected starting home prices ($500,000 - $600,000) are "almost three times higher than what's typical in our city" and do not address the actual housing needs of city workforce residents.
  • Donald Barth (Continued): Expressed support for the project as a "great project" but noted that while he does not control driveway widths, neighbors could assist with road improvements on Herbert Drive. He stated that the current traffic exit strategy favors Scott Drive, contrary to neighbor concerns.
  • Jereen Bonner Willis: Expressed gratitude on behalf of the Cobb County NAACP for the city's continued support of Juneteenth and scholarship programs.
  • Jerome Boite: Stated concern that residents on Whitlock Drive and Manning lack adequate bus routes, requesting a bus route change to improve convenience and clear traffic.
  • Rosser Sutherland: Expressed positivity, congratulated all candidates, and noted that the recent election was "probably the first real competitive mayor's election" in a long time, deeming it a healthy process.
  • Sam Foster: Expressed a desire to see the community improve and be more responsive to issues like affordable housing and safety, thanking the Mayor and all candidates and pledging continued engagement regardless of election outcomes.

Discussion Items

  • Z 2025-17 (Trayton Corporation LLC Rezoning):
    • Applicant Position: Kevin Moore, representing Trayton Homes, explained that the proposal was revised from 130-119 homes down to 79 single-family detached homes based on community feedback regarding density and townhomes. He presented a traffic study concluding minimal impact (less than one second delay at intersections) and noted a $107,000 contribution for road improvements.
    • Council & Community Concerns:
      • Driveway Safety: Ms. Minnesota expressed strong opposition to the proposed 7-foot driveways for rear-loaded units, citing a previous incident in the "Mange" neighborhood where inadequate parking forced cars onto grass and streets.
      • Traffic Routing: Mr. Barr and other neighbors questioned whether traffic would incorrectly utilize lower-volume internal streets (Matthews Circle, Herbert Drive) instead of the proposed arterial connections, noting the traffic study did not account for these specific intersections.
      • Feasibility vs. Design: The applicant stated that reducing the unit count to 51 to accommodate wider streets or driveways would "greatly increase the cost of the home" and make the project economically unfeasible, resulting in a loss of pocket parks and amenities.
      • Affordability: Ms. Diaz reiterated that the project prices out local workers who cannot afford the estimated $500,000-$600,000 starting price.
      • Conflict of Interest: Mr. Balbona raised concerns about the City Attorney being the cousin of the applicant's counsel and the presence of planning commission members from partners at the same law firm.
    • Applicant Response: Kevin Moore confirmed a willingness to table the application to address concerns and noted that the 5% rental limitation is a city ordinance requirement.
  • Z 2025-21 (Trammel Street Subdivision):
    • Ellen Gleason: Proposed subdividing a property to increase density from 4 to 5.5 units per acre, requesting variances for lot width and side setbacks.
    • Council Deliberation: Council member Mr. Walker initially moved to approve the lot size variance but sought an amendment to exclude the side setback variance (reducing from 10 to 5 feet) to ensure fire code compliance requirements (sprinklers) were met.

Key Outcomes

  • Z 2025-17: The Council tabled the Rezoning application for Trayton Corporation LLC until the December 10, 2025 Council meeting to allow time to address concerns regarding driveways, traffic routing, and affordability. The motion passed 7-0.
  • Z 2025-21: The motion to approve the subdivision with a variance for lot width was amended to exclude the side setback variance and passed unanimously (7-0).
  • Procedural: The meeting concluded with a motion to enter executive session regarding property acquisition and disposition, which was approved.

Meeting Transcript

They have something magic in the ward over in the track department over Mirahasku. Anything else? Scheduled appearance. Mr. Barth. Good evening, Donald Barth. Wow. Y'all have started this one out with a bang. That's what makes Marietta great. And for those of you that won your election, congratulations. For Mr. Goldstein, who beat the Bushes and brought in more people to vote in Ward 7 than we knew were out there. Cool. For the three of you, four of you, who are possibly leaving this dais. You know you've you served because you had a calling. And now we're gonna see the changing of the colors, the changing of the guard. Well, we got the old guy, he's gonna stick around with us and lead what we're gonna have. And I want to tell you something. They call us the gym city. You're the gym polisher. You are the man who is gonna take whatever they throw back at you on there, and you're going to make the diamond shine. It won't be hard because whatever you get will be elected by Marietta. But you are the leader who can cut the diamond and make us proud. And I'm glad that we have you for four more years. I know your wife's not, but you are the man. You have done what you said you'd do, and we continue on. So other than that, there's not much I could say after what a surprise tonight, other than I was so proud of the way the elections went. I am so proud to have. I know where the strength is, and this is what it's gonna take for Marietta. We're going to make the mayor shine by having a strong council. The council leads the way, the mayor leads the council. And of course, we have Mr. Bruton to think over there. Who's gonna bring it up? Bring up the rear. And we we acknowledge tonight Mark Rice in public works, who we can't live without. And Mark's reaching a certain age. David reaching a certain age. Bill, I'm not even gonna begin to guess your age. But at this point, we need to be watching Marietta and watching what happens for the future. I'm so happy it turned out the way it did. And Mr. Mayor, I'm looking forward to what you bring to the table. Thank you. Mr. Stevenson. Don't even want to try. Tracy Stevenson. Uh I too with uh Don say gee. Thanks for uh making an interesting and spirited election.

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