Oh 2028 launched.

I gotta stand that tall up in my office if you exit yet.

Thank you.

Okay, then never mind.

That's at all.

Um you should have two sheets um I named them so a little easier to follow this time.

So you have parks bond option, the grants option, and then the last page is the tier two list that I narrowed down a little bit because I took off some of the other projects that moved on to tier one, Atlanta Street, and Orange Street, some of those, I took some of those off.

Um, some of the smaller sidewalk projects because I think we can get those done uh individual council members approval for whatever board those in and using going.

Um funding or doing small things like that, and listed on tier two, I think we still accomplish things if individual council members are okay, so that's reason.

Some of those are all um so I'm narrowed also after the discussion on Monday night.

This is kind of finalizing the list as it would look on that would go forward to the county, so I'll take a little descriptions now, project descriptions, and I will those down a little bit, so it's not as descriptive as it was Monday night.

I don't know, Mr.

Water asking some of the questions about that, so I'm narrowing some of those down.

So we've got both options before you didn't answer any questions.

So we have a question about the trucks being the house.

So you're applying for a park on it.

If it's on the projects called needs to be an approval.

The parks bond option would be uh maybe just discussions with the mayor uh talking about possibly doing a parts on so that was removing all of the parts uh items that we had on there except for the city hall reservations.

So that took all of them off of the list and doing some other rebalancing uh some of the project accounts in order to do the overall budget balance, okay.

Left everything else on there except maybe just the minor adjustments to some project transportation project account.

Everything else in his balance.

And grant options green station.

So whatever reason we don't pick the green thing, but it's a project with their green money.

If if yeah, if we do not get the grants or we don't get the full grant funding, then that would be brought back before this body to return how you would like to move forward if we have extra funding available, and that'll have to be a decision.

This body that we have to make to allocate that extra funding.

Wouldn't we try to get the grants no matter which option we choose?

We always find it very much.

We always always want to grants it.

So there's not really a grant.

No grant option.

No, Mr.

Golsen got a seat like no stuff.

I think I'm just making sure it's gonna see that.

I think that would leave the parks projects on the list.

The parks the grants from set.

It's not saying that if we choose the grants for not doing the parks bond, it's just it provides the options that send if we don't choose the parks bond and have the projects on the list.

If we do the parks bond and something happens, it happens because the project's on this parks bond and passes makes it be declared economically feasible with the funding source and those are the parts to be getting a grants option.

Just provide more options.

And it provides us a backstop just to my question in this.

And we decided it would be no county money.

What happened to Ireland?

That's one of those sidewalk projects.

I think we're going to do that.

Okay.

Right.

Okay.

So we can't do the funding first.

Also, it's still Washington.

It's just the point of the north.

Then you go all the way down to Rosemary Street.

I don't need any important things.

I don't want any of this.

We have the all the way down to it.

I don't have any extremes above Roswell.

I know the longer Austin A meeting described all of those the old parts.

I mean aspect I think for a pocket park full for a few different types of part.

And then for that different personal different year board as well, just kind of looking at very much different pocket parts there and then take the books in the places.

So we think feel pretty confident about 1.75 million for that new park once up with where it is with the question about where the numbers came from.

So when it looked at the itemized list, or those numbers based on today's dollars based on when it five year from now dollar, like where are the numbers come from?

Well those numbers are based on the future.

Okay.

So we did today.

So if we bond the projects, the bond is lost projects, then it's likely we could come in under actually from what is on here and possibly get it or done or in the tier two.

That's what it's going to be.

Any idea how much that would free up possibly?

Um these are conservative numbers.

I mean, we uh the question is that we brought in more revenue just lost at the spinning in every single time.

Yes.

So in the independent we over performing under those dollars that you look at no fund.

Yeah, what uh uh what you would do.

Um haven't had that opportunity yet on the current splash, but uh we come forward using the notes here and uh we do reallocation.

So you'll look and see um sheet that shows you here's how much extra we brought in already.

Um here's the areas that we would like to recommend uh budget for different ones if you know the costs are going up.

Uh, an example would be the uh the trail project that we're doing right now.

Um pricing.

So we had to go back and cut a lot of the budget on order there as far as the uh but we also put additional money into it.

So um that's what you would do first is look at the tier one project, figure out which ones needed additional money in order to want to be completed.

And uh any additional money you have is supposed to go to tier two.

So we don't usually get to tier two because the uh costs of the projects are usually uh pretty excessive, and so uh it just gets reallocated to tier one project.

And we're prohibited by law from putting it in the general.

Right.

So it's that's why we list the projects and we only can do those projects unless they are either because of that happening, or they're uh possibly called works.

We can't you know, a lot of people hear that and go, well, there's nothing given project in general from it's gotta be right to the list.

Primarily the two recent we can name project invasion, either engineering related or internal rare thing that means the contributor feasibility.

Engineering in feasibility, we have had a couple that we are council has named in feasible.

Um traffic studies updating says, you know, it doesn't make seems to do this way, and you need to do something else off top of things.

So it is rare uh that you meet the project one in fifth.

There are a couple of counts that we've got that are up on the top of this list that uh definitely you know you're able to put additional money in like street resurfacing, trails, sidewalks, that type of stuff.

Uh then you could, you know, if we're going along if we see additional areas we can just work in, we can up to that project if you have additional money coming in, but um you really can't do a project that is totally new until we just all the names, and then you have to go to the tier two, and you'd have to knock that tier tier.

You get to pick which ones you want from tier two, a week payment to what we can have on T 12 trying to understand what we could take off on street from to Washington.

If uh if it's on the list and we have whether that we could do it, for some reason we can't get it uh with the way we're explaining that we're just what we know.

Tier two has a lot more floods building more tier one as tier one.

Right, okay, that's what you have to do.

Tier two.

Technically and legally, we only have to list tier two projects.

We typically do put at least a list of projects out there, so people know that we have some fallback if we do reach the access funds.

We know kind of what we're gonna be looking at.

But if you do have the flexibility to add two tier two projects, if you get to that point, but Mr.

Burton says we've never gotten to that point how to deal with that, so uh that's part of the reason that some of these smaller scale projects such as sidewalks, this time, especially learning from the past.

It's easier for me to pull those off because I do leave them on there without going through a big boat.

Uh it's easier for me to have a flexibility to say as long as individual council person is okay with it, uh finding grants for the reason then I can I can go look forward to those projects.

So the city would start wolves and trail construction.

We we don't we we keep a small as uh otherwise as told maintenance and repairs, but we do keep a smaller list of projects list.

Over to tier two.

Um right below uh the SP and top part of intersection permit strings getting through some project interests and it's uh one, two, three, four, five, six, seven four down, one tier two.

This is a proof.

That's what I'll get to price back.

I don't want to do that.

We didn't think that things probably project again when you should replace those of the project, but it's uh I think it's not a public hearing type of this.

I think it's not a public character for this.

Um aviation road improvements.

That's your way to say it anywhere else.

Okay.

South Maryana and Rossworth.

Uh we were looking at improvement stormwater and wide for the CCT buses that run through there as well as adding potential bike lines.

Okay.

That'd make the number right.

Yeah.

It's T.

And then we're going to discuss this at the next committee meeting.

But we have silent railroad cross for downtown.

Is that all the railroad crossings?

Because the one that crosses was Dixie down the land is board one.

That was just in the downtown core.

Okay.

Um that was not enough money to do all I mean six crossings that we have to do, but yes.

I just finished the agenda items next to me's discussion.

So we will have a very in-depth and very first discussion based on the topic.

So it would be East Dixie, uh East DC way relief.

I can't remember that name.

But not anything further.

Thank you.

But I'm wondering why we've already had a long R and we actually do it.

If if you do silent crossings the way the federal regulations are written, um you do one, you gotta do them all.

If they're within a certain distance, we have another.

And all hours are within that distance requirement.

So it might be already long or it is, but it doesn't still meet the requirements that for quiet times.

So we would still have to upgrade that crossing.

Maybe it's off is 7500,000.

Uh that one might not be the full million that we would be anticipating per crossing, but no better yet.

That one that one might be about 700,000, but the rest of them are going to be about a million per crossing.

Yeah.

It was a little much lower amount.

Now it's a large that's that's just the dollar amount that I is not considering the time that it takes.

So look at the council were to commit to the dollar to move forward.

Um that is about a seven to nine year process.

Better get it going, I'll cost twenty million about that.

You shouldn't go down road to McDonald's.

Yeah.

Do you have to do that?

Which is the same thing.

So we'll be able to think that's more important than that than we like to have to do that on that board.

I like to have them.

I mean, every little bit's gonna happen.

I totally agree.

I mean, it's just between between the dollar amount and the time commitment.

Um the longest part of the time commitment is dealing with the railroad, obviously.

You have to use their engineers to do the design work.

They have to approve everything.

You have to use our contractors to do the instruction.

So by the time you go through all of their processes, that's the reason that seven to nine year window.

And that's not counting the maintenance and liability responsibility after you put them in.

Because then the railroad walks away from it and says your crossings, we are no longer liable for anything that happens on those crossings.

The city is now fully responsible for anything that happens on the crossings.

And then we contract with the railroad to fix the crossings because we don't have the people fixing the crossings.

That's correct.

So then we have the higher third party come fix them to the railroad standards, and then like I said, then we have to maintain all the ability for anything that happens on those crossings.

We came on, we looked at it, we just said I think wise it's squared down there in bindings.

There pretty quick.

And to the current numbers, what they're seeing too much now is about shares.

On that uh on that one, if I remember correctly, and it used to be, I think, down to 400,000, but I think that's what we've done in prior line dialogue on council.

And back when there was possible some tiger grants to help out.

Or I think it was called tiger grants back then.

Um to help out with the cost of I think that particular portion that program is called and again specifically more about what now, but um the one misconception is people think when you got clocked crossings, you'll never hear the horns.

That's not true.

Um it's up to the discretion of locomotive engineer whether or not he bows any horn.

So he feels like there is a need for him to blow the horn, he's still going to blow a horn.

And it doesn't matter what time of day or night it is.

So the piece is just basically getting late as they come through.

So he's doing more still makes it.

I mean, as you go down Dallas Highway most of the people, people won't really afford to have any up properly in here, but our personal change.

From public works and staff perspective, this is a very good swatch list, both well rounded parks and rack public safety.

You have to have to change your project round.

Money in there for maintenance, uh for all room maintenance activities, not just so this is a very broad, well rounded project basically just probably basically the text with lock having any improvements.

Um probably a lot of calls about having a safe we can provide some a little more context on specifically what we'll talk about.

Like it's safe some hardware and something that is the new signal or we prefer merely for potential new signal and dialogue circle and woodwalk.

Um plus we got a couple other maintenance things on woodwalk that we won't need to check into.

Right past from Hope Street Extension, and you notice there's a real rough spot right there.

We need to dig that up and do some investigation there and fix that.

So we we got some I hated to call it maintenance and improvement, so I just called it improvements.

Right.

Uh so we got a couple of things or woodlocked.

Intersection improvement and a couple maintenance items are all good.

No, totally get the just a little bit more text and further as long as without without picking calls.

Yeah, I mean that that's because I kinda like to general, but uh, I'm happy to add interception maintenance that we would like.

Maintenance people like otherwise it'd just be a conversation.

Your call.

I don't think it'll be bad thing back.

So for me, just two questions, one current victory intersectional movement.

I thought we already working that we're working the pedestrian crossing, but this is any potential roundabout to improve that all weekends.

So that that's in tier two.

And then just say you know the other one is that would call out of all these sidewalk windows and uh quarry on the waterman sidewalk to get some more fire projects.

Okay.

North side of water.

I won't make that take all the way over to Lake with the north side of the water.

I've just given him all of this.

I don't think I'm trying to change that's been like this for one point three million dollars in three years, just I think everybody gets maybe either because they are data.

So what is the process now tonight?

Um council will choose one of these options and hope to approve that at this meeting or uh here this meeting.

What will happen, and this will be the list that I will give to the council or to the county.

Um our first town hall meeting, public input meeting in March.

We'll have another one uh I think end of May, end of March, I'm sorry, and in the middle of April together public input on this on this list of projects.

You will have another or bite of this apple at the May council meeting, which will be a public hearing.

Um incorporate any or what percent immediately comments, or suggestions from public input meetings at the April committee meetings the lab opportunity might be tweaks you would like.

Vote only to get at the May meeting.

We'll have another week hearing and vote at the June council meeting along with the intergovernmental agreement that'll incorporate everything that'll be the final final list and vote at that meeting.

That'll go to the county.

You've got a few more opportunities to tweak me.

But I'll suggest that we move forward with the grants option.

That's kind of where we're leaving.

Okay, I'll make that a motion.

So the mean we're not gonna find more part one.

It means we still can't.

Just because we do the random park spot, it doesn't mean we can't do that later, do you think?

And if we do the bugs projects, that means it just threw it out in the spawns instead.

And why make the reallocation?

But I'll see one of those exceptions as I mentioned about infeasibility.

That would meet the definition of economic infeasibility due to the fact you had another funding source.

So those projects are going to be pulled off of the squash, and you can reallocate those amounts to existing tier one projects, but then you could reset out a tier two and pull up other projects to fund at that time when the parked one you would have an opportunity to rebuild something.

Um very good one is the thing that we got.

If you guys remember 2001, uh part of where I can apply for that one 10 or grant or get my applies for 27, I think.

So that they're planning on going back to that again, so they get that funding when that way.

How much of that is grant?

Three points there's maybe rent.

And that's a conservative estimate to this number of HP, and we're here for like possible possible.

Um obviously uh final design will come back in council if you'd have that an option.

It would be our recommendation that's been table for name and whatever the final version would be, but council would have that opportunity to look at that and say, yeah, we like them, no, we don't like them.

Whatever, but you had that option to be late.

That's that's crazy.

It would be our recommendation that we stay with that option to the same.

Yeah, rest uh remains the trust through price ADA.

Yeah, I'll be okay with changing that language and be a little more flexible.

Um, replacements we can go ADA and other I would I would just if if we're going to change I just like call remote and drop the investing that gives you flexibility because where we're exploring what we're gonna see individually bathrooms but we uh have had other issues in the past with building so that would allow us flexibility's obviously for gives you some flexibility.

But then we if you have the ADA on there helps because nobody wants to spend money on administrative building.

And if we uh I don't think we should be him then to have it to do ADA, but if we have it on there, then at least we know people know that there's a reason, and people understand ADA compliance.

People don't understand spending money on a government building.

Are you right as a point?

No, it's a good thing.

Okay, like a child.

I don't think it's what they like to say.

We've got a lot of things out there.

What's your grant money?

We don't get the grant money.

Because they're on the list.

We can use supplies of money that is over what's anticipated.

That was available.

So we do have, but by having it on the list that we said, this is a project.

Well, everyone is here just how we should fund it.

So I whether we get the grants or actual cost of construction coming way above such as our rotten wood three.

Um you would have that opportunity to reallocate extra parts for that, or sources, whether that's capital.

Whatever else would be winning for this room, but that would have to be a proof of the are there individual grants for the projects or one grant for that several projects for the green rates that each one of these uh depending on the project has a possibility to use the different grains.

They're all not usually the same.

So some of the stuff I'd plan for public safety is not source versus sanctification in different parts.

We have the six percent scale state sales things that we have just the two penny ones that we spost.

Education's loss and our splits, we don't have the purpose of eight percent at this point.

So very well in there, so I guess the wheel never got to correct.

All the money that is in here for um the replacement of current head repair of those things or uh streets and store water just keep everything I got for the spot.

Like the called equation, all over favorite, but you carry six levels.

Every time I see the grade, I say grand study to work is a job when we got that same goal and different grants that I've seen you don't see about the content.

If we're limited down to one of them, that it wouldn't be it.

Uh I wanted to say something to me last night.

I had a municipal association meeting.

Um one of the things that they're looking at at the chamber was at the chamber.

You spoke on displacement a few other things.

They are looking at putting together an advocacy group.

I mean whether it's a positive or an eight event looking at putting together an advocacy group and actually looking for um civilian group but resident and on that and some resident survey on that advocacy group.

So I'm sure we'll hear more about that with you know, at least that's one of the things that they interfere with the government.

We can't do it.

Well, we have to go to your own cool working later, right?

They're still there.

After our final vote after the currents, I think we are limited to just education.

We can't advocate for or against the slot because the smallest thing is a bot as a city body.

At that point, it is in the hands of the residents who eventually vote on it.

Of course, the one of the operations every time is advocacy.

So are they city explaining why they would be wrong?

Uh I don't know exactly what they're doing with their information sessions, but that's the purpose of these meetings now is to explain all the projects they have all the stuff now.

What about two?

I don't know, they've got a told us though.

We're given a tour of the building uh as part of their trying to explain why they need more space and while they need different space um sound to be like the whole operation too.

Well, the first one's gonna be on the fifth march.

That's the end of the thing.

Uh that will be on the one over instead of side joined person.

I guess 47.

Um, and then we'll uh log with their meetings that will be just the same.

Uh that we'll work with y'all on as far as getting the dates to do that.

Um we'll do those probably here.

And both will be all the 20s for 201.

November 27th.

I know we're gonna die to have to find out.

Projects to just discuss while I think you can commit such license to have folks there, you can have a county folks there.

Just be able to hear what we can.

So I'll do uh bring up the um trains.

Uh the notification is blocking the track.

Single.

So now we'd be able to get a notification before you attract to the four times going.

Well, but there would be uh some board.

Uh what do you want to say?

But also we're looking at the word people's phone to file fixes.

I know uh there's a city sets of real round table to do it to different conferences, which one is because of that.

I think that should be out anyway.

Tonight.

We're gonna like open opinion.

But we're really talking with whatever you want to do, and that helps.

Yeah, but the decide and whether not there was a property right.

License permit or whatever.

Yeah, I can't right now.

Is there a motion for such a yeah that's the key circuit?

Just ask the four.

Is this uh for that particular one?

Is that one that falls under the exact fee?

Accept exemption tonight.

Yeah, for the foreign executive session.

You have an option at the three o'clock that's the exact session at the end of the day as well.

You have one now before you.

Well, I can't tell if there would be some time for the exact decision between six and seven.

I would think so.

And I would think that's two weight to it then if normal force of business is that we're gonna session means to your council is very profitable.