Heavenly Father, we come before you today with grateful hearts for our city we call home.

We thank you for the beauty of our nation and the great state of Georgia.

We ask your favor would continue to rest upon us from our coastlines to our mountains.

We ask you to continue to shine your favor upon us.

As we convene today, we ask for your divine wisdom, greatest clarity of mind and spirit of cooperation.

Keep our city under your watchful care.

We ask that you would continue to bless us, keep us, and make your face shine upon us.

In your name I pray, amen.

Please stand for the pledge.

Um days.

And you're now gonna use Bobby.

Um not only help but just involve welcome people like you brought it, who was the first difficulty like one by the city council.

But uh also mentioned that they are significantly seen based on the history of uh not taught in the schools.

So this is one time it's taught in the homes of special.

Dr.

Charles Drew, Martin Blood Bank developed large scale blood plasma and storage.

Uh Lonnie Johnson, who was a NASA engineer, developed the filter water gun, Syria Good, developed the Fold and B, and then Frederick McKinney Jones refrigerated trucks, one of the uh developed mobile refrigerated units critical for World War II, food and medical supply and transmutation.

Alexander Miles, the automatic elevator door, Dr.

Daniel Hale, Williams, Open Heart Surgery, modern music, Jazz, just hip hop created JS Blues, Rock and Roll, RB, like these are just a legacy that it is improved safety, medicine, culture, and technology, develop despite systematic systematic barriers.

Black creativity continues to change the mayor of the asking that fits perfectly with what we just said, and that is that our distance center is going to be on February the 21st, and 4 p.m.

We have what we call pop-in for family fund days, and the one that's gonna take place on February 21st is gonna explore the stories and inventions of African American innovators, who ideas to say everyday life.

So we would like to encourage everybody to come out to the museum.

Please enjoy all the great stories on which desert following from the gospel can't take a world to you all time reaching up to event on the 22nd of February.

Is that correct?

No, we have the back.

And then there are we also have married at the gathering coming up on that first day in March, March 7th.

And the second legislative stuff trim now at the next council meeting.

The beginning of the month of Ramadan for the for Muslim community and uh poor for the Jewish community.

18th February and 3rd of March.

So to those who celebrate or recognize those holidays, we have a meaningful holiday as it's kind of appropriate in a solitary tour meeting.

Oh yeah, yeah, we should have advertising no doubt about this, but there is going to be uh informational meeting pop in basically on the 5th of March, and that'll be different swaps.

Um there'll be information about the projects that the mayor's city council is putting forward and also what the county is putting forward.

Um there'll be an opportunity to comment on those to get information, and then the state council after that will be having a couple of meetings later uh where we can interactive uh set up where the public can let the council know what they think about the different projects and the question.

Um group 68 and then 4 to 7, so I need to check that.

Okay, thank you.

So that's Adam City Center.

There we go on the 5th of March.

Actually, I've been in a bearish little or basically.

Yeah, too.

Good evening, everyone.

Uh my name is Rich Stackman on the Arborist of the City of Mariana.

And tonight I'm here to accept on behalf of the uh Arborist community uh and the uh uh Arbor Day Foundation a proclamation from the city um for Arbor Day.

Uh this is something that we do every year.

Uh the city of Marietta has been part of Tree City USA for uh this is our 42nd year.

We are the second oldest tree city in the state of Georgia.

And um, in order to get that designation, there's several criteria that the city you know must maintain.

Uh one of the criteria is that we need to have a tree board or a department that uh facilitates tree care, tree removal, things like that.

And that is uh uh in this city here, it's the accommodation area to tree keepers or an advocacy group.

Um with the city, we do tree planting uh and um uh tree education.

Um and then throughout our board of lights and water, and through uh the the parks and recreation staff, we uh manage the trees.

Sometimes we have to remove them, a lot of times we're planting them and normally taking care of them.

Um one of the other criteria is that the city must uh um uh or actually uh collect our pay two dollars, what is it here?

Two dollars per capita per year uh on planting and uh tree maintenance, and we actually um exceed that well well exceed that.

Um we also must uh observe the Arbor Day uh events or Arbor Day uh um holiday, which is basically in about two weeks, and uh tree keepers get involved in that as well.

We'll be at the uh farmers market uh getting away free trees if anyone's interested.

Um we also must do a proclamation once uh once a year, which is what we're doing tonight.

Um there is 183 uh tree cities in Georgia, and like I said, we're number two, and um we're uh uh happy to do this on an ongoing basis uh kind of continuous year after yeah.

Before Jason presents, uh just want to recognize where Jackie branches are, uh the city he has an exceptional job, uh usually same all the beautiful trees and our parks, or doesn't handle all of that, and just want to thank you for all you need.

All right, so on behalf of Mayor and Council, uh honored to join this proclamation.

So I'll read this all out.

Whereas in 1982, Jay Sterling Horton proposed in Nebraska Board of Agriculture special day be set aside for the planting of trees.

And whereas this holiday is called Arbor Day was first observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska.

And Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world.

And whereas trees can reduce the erosion by wind and water of our precious topsoil.

Cut easy and cooling costs, moderate the temperature, clean the air, produce oxygen, and provide habitat for wildlife.

And whereas trees are renewable resources, giving us paper wood for our homes, still for our buyers and tall us other wood products.

And whereas trees, wherever they are planted, are special, our source of joy and spiritual renewal.

And whereas Marietta has been recognized as a tree day, tree city, U.S.

City by the National Arbor Day Foundation for the 42nd consecutive year, and desires to continue this tree planning ways.

Now whereas I steve Thundertown and Mayor of the City of Marietta do hereby proclaim February 20th, 2026, Arbor.

Thank you all for allowing me to speak this evening.

My name is Kathy Slough.

I'm proud to call Marietta, Georgia my home, and I just wanted to share with you some of my concerns.

And one of them, I'm proud to live in a tree city, number two in the state of Georgia, and that goes along with my concerns for keeping trees up, and I know that's a tough balance with affordability and the developers, but as the song Joni Mitchell said, paid paradise, put up a parking lot.

Okay, we have beautiful green space out here in the city in Marietta and throughout Marietta and Cobb County, and I would like to see trees, plants, flowers, as much as possible remain for the wildlife while still developing affordable housing.

I know, for example, Kennesaw State, when I moved into our condo, that rent was $800 about a month, about 20 years ago.

Now it's 2,000 a month.

I can't even afford that.

So I asked that while you're planning and developing to take all those into concern.

And then I'm proud to call Marietta home because of our wonderful first responders.

And I just want to share with you our wonderful Marietta Police Department.

There was an officer riding around doing his job, and he saw an older woman and a dog sitting on the sidewalk, and that officer stopped.

He chose to stop in care, and he walked that older woman and the dog, she had fallen back to the home.

That's an example of going above and beyond.

Secondly, that real cold weekend, there was an ice storm.

We had a huge branch come down in our condo complex, and Mary had a fire department was out there on another call and saw that, and I went out and was walking my dog, and I said, Hey guys, I said, are you guys ruined this huge branch out of our main road?

And they did.

They didn't have to.

They chose to do that.

And I said, Well, thank you so much.

I said, Thank you, and they said, we're here to help people.

Thirdly, we have the tall lights with the numbers on them fold.

So on a Sunday, I called the emergency number for Marietta Power.

And guess what?

By 5 p.m., that next day.

They have, I think it's 72 hours, Mr.

Brune, to fix those lights.

But the next day by 5 p.m.

That light was fixed.

So I just wanted to share.

We hear all this negativity.

So thank you for your time.

Thank you for all you do.

And I'm still proud to call Mary Anna Hall.

Thank you.

Good evening, Mr.

Mayor.

And Council.

Some of y'all missed in the past week.

We had a great community meeting that was put on by three council.

Three councilmen came before.

And they set up a community meeting to let people be involved.

There was more people there than they are behind me on any given night.

We need more of that.

We can go into a hundred subjects.

And I got a tall bird shocked.

We had some people putting in, and Bill didn't have to be the man with all the knowledge that night.

Bill came in with everything in.

We need more of that.

Now, one of the things that bothers me, I went to my first board meeting on the board to have elected to be on this other old white man on the board.

And that's a lot of that marriage.

It doesn't matter what the color of the skin is.

Once they get all of the compensation out, then they'll leave it.

Boy, there's something that keeps them on these boards.

How are we going to move forward if everybody on the board has issues?

And we all know.

Sometimes you take somebody on the board that has issues and you make them look.

So as it goes, I hope that y'all look at this.

There's so much we can do.

And Mr.

Mayor, I know there's a short subject, but the Board of Lights and Water is not our enemy.

It's our golden good.

And there again, we could have a meeting, and we have people come in and ask questions about the building, want to be involved, want to know what's going on.

People in Marietta can do this.

So with the young bullets up there, let's take some things that might could be better.

They may not be all wrong, but they could be better.

Thank you.

And this uh on this page and the second page.

Uh these items have been discussed in uh in several of the committee meetings prior to today's meeting.

So Mr.

Levy, are there any additions to consider Mr.

Still?

Thank you.

The custom session has been sent.

Okay, it can be put on consent.

It will be on the set.

Changes need to be approved by Mr.

Britain, Ms.

Register, Mr.

Ms.

Richardson and myself.

Um I want to entertain uh post the drawback.

And remove that property so controlling.

Thank you so much.

That approved uh that has uh send it out.

Thank you.

And the public command wanted to comment on this.

Thank you, Mr.

Handy.

Good evening for case C22515.

Sir John King Carter III was requested a resigning of 1663 crest ridge drive to R2, which is a single family designation and two units per acre to R2 and then increase density by 3.7 units per acre for the purposes of subdividing into two parcels.

And Mr.

Carter is here to present to this list.

I believe that um my request has been stated and just fairly described in the agenda.

Would you summarize what you're asking the layer of council you did, please?

Sure.

Um I'm I'm asking that my lot, which is presently one lot, uh, be rezoned so that it can be divided into two lots as it was originally planted in the 1950s.

Uh it was um well as it said anyway, it was it was two lots.

And my house was built on one lot, and the other lot was never built because this extra stream and it was apparently judged too difficult to build.

Um so I I'm requesting that it be rezoned so that it can be redivided into two lots.

Yeah, after that, I will make a request to uh have a and to have the uh water by water variants so that the uh lot can be solved and possibly built a lot.

Any questions, Mr.

Carr?

Any questions?

Only question really is when you look at subdividing the lot where the current structure is.

Is there enough room when you subdivide it to add that home on the other side of the line?

Yeah, and if you look at that now, you can see it more clearly.

That's my house on the left and the uh the lot on the right is pretty much the same size.

That is where I'll have a pick.

Yeah, that is right.

Mr.

L fee has your as you already say it's a you know the resonant could be one one is one thing.

This is the random thing between two, you've got a street buffer variant, so it's a different process than to look at.

Right.

The only variance you're asking for relating to the side the would be need would be needed to get to the splitting no additional variance, it's just what's needed for the small term.

Correct.

Other questions, Mr.

Carter?

Mr.

Kenneth.

Where's the stream?

The stream is on the right, right-hand side of the right lot.

It's over there.

So that property is on the by the city, I believe.

Yeah, this is not actually on my property.

Someway.

Right.

But there's a lot across the street, which is directly across the street.

It also borders the street.

And they were successful intaining these variances.

And they're built out.

So I don't hopefully that minimum is 25 feet.

So if you were successful computer.

Oh I would have to buy us somewhere.

I mean I spoke to the um city planner, which is named Charles.

Charles Richards.

And he was not that it was doable.

I thought that was to go to this one.

No reward.

This is all doing with this three.

Well can we come up with it?

So you have land to land.

But nothing can happen until we do this right.

That's great.

So it sounds like it's and then you address what can be built.

So um flooding because of the stream.

Uh the stream is for one thing that's is no longer there around.

Um is quite high.

My house is on the hill, and this lot next door.

Yeah, that's my house, and the lot next door is an inclined down through the stream.

And um the stream never floats its banks to actually um it's well drained to a larger stream down the way.

The lot line.

Does that need some mention?

I mean, it's pre-existing.

I don't know what the distance is from the lot line on the side.

And that's very existing, I think SAS standpoint would be that it would be non-conforming if there was a if there wasn't an issue there and continue to be non-conforming is we need to add that in the motion since this I think that's fine with it.

Okay.

Okay.

It just should be recognition that the shed.

And not happy.

So we think it was ever torn down or something like that, like the forward because that was it couldn't be rebuilt.

It'd have to be it would have to fall fall in line with any and all setbacks for the proper for the property, yes.

Whether this is on neighbor's okay.

So it is not your neighborhood in the lot.

No, but since this isn't a lot that's gonna come back to us, just the other lot well.

I just wanted to make sure on the non-informing event, whether or not we needed to mention it.

Because it's going to like that lot now.

Okay.

As long as we're good.

I'm good.

Mr.

Carr, if you have a state place, this is the public.

Oh, they reselled in 6063 fresh bridge drive.

One that's like tell me, please go forward.

State your name is Mr.

Calvin.

Open each.

This new lot.

Now it's going to be 3.7 is RT.

We can argue the deck today, but we're ready to refer to R2R4.

Yes, it would maintain a lot of the attributes of R2 when it comes to the different parameters related to it, but the density certainly would be more than that, so that would be the increased density to 3.5.

We'll jump it.

Yes or no?

Yes, sir.

Engine R4.

Oh, no, sir.

It is R2.

Yes.

No, the rest of that side of the neighborhood for PowerStare Hills, Cliverdale Heights, all the properties of that side are all R2.

Because I think it was back there belt muscle belt and water.

The R4 section, I think, is for Cloverdale lights above there because we see that.

Okay, would you like a motion, sir?

Thank you.

Make a motion to approve the motion is presented upon the agenda with the two with the two required variants and assignment.

Second.

Require variants are not in the street button.

Yes, sir.

Did no just notice it was a stipulation added by the uh planning commission dealing with uh property formally divided via an exemption plan process working with the county?

Because that's the way we normally have on there as well.

That's a normal portion of our process.

Okay.

So just further requirements as well.

Okay.

The property blocking formally divided with the exemption plans.

They got to go through that process of found with the county.

Sorry, question.

You know that like call the question, please indicate your vote.

Motion carries that vote.

Thank you.

We've been out of public hearing money.

Yes, there are been accepted as Mr.

Rice comes forward.

This is item 2026.

Oh one one eight.

It would be a public hearing to authorize the public works to install three speed tables on the estimated cost of 50,000, dollars to the city of Mr.

Rice before you.

Thank you, Mr.

Henry.

Uh, as far as traffic common policy public works conducted a public information meeting with the residence of traffic common on Wainberry Road from Freestand Road to Franklin Gateway on July 24th, 2025.

After the public meeting, the request for traffic common use the ballot for about it on public works to collect signatures.

There were 33 affected parcels, and 26 signatures were obtained by the requester.

All 26 signatures were in favor of the traffic common measures proposed, which meet the required standard approval threshold in the traffic common policy.

We did request comments for area to fire merit, please find your schools and comments.

The street is located in ward 7A.

The attack's concept provides three speed tables located on Bandary Road 23 road through the gateway.

If there's anyone that would like to speak on this matter related to Rafic Columbus Mark Bandro, please come forward at this time.

There's no comment.

So one of the things about this is we didn't have possible to problem to try to apply to this very good for landing particular place.

Anyone else that would like to make that command road traffic on the public rewards make them for the motion to be proved as state of the two second fire?

Should uh recall a question, please get your vote with them.

Next item is uh pit barking replays the lobby down here to put this uh care, which is called out here whole legal issue that also called on it.

So the paper regularly for the public appearment thank you.

This is specifically as interesting for eight five systems, but it'll be in the back of the uh the key phrase related to this item is an existing maybe replacing that disk you'll think.

It may be four existing the keyword there being the existing four panels are removed in the retirement.

There is a swap that goes on.

You'll see that you have table at the bottom.

The panels proposed by the applicant have already been removed and out of the system, so the question is whether or not they proposed uh swap panels are existing.

It would be in my opinion as the hand that are not having said that Mr.

Coban is a few.

I mean that's that's the property right.

I mean that we have to mention that is our permit for billboard faces for it.

I would ask in the public hearing that we have.

So for V226, or Lamar advertising a plan requesting a variance for 1155 power sphere in place to allow a digital billboard within 500 feet of the residential property for the purpose of converting an existing static billboard into representative for the project is sent to present layers.

Um we're applying for a variance in existing network structure in the static location.

We're applying for variance, we're basing to reduce the items on currently it says 74 feet above the right way.

Um between the court itself and the apartment complex.

Um we have a large warehouse for storage, and just between them kind of creates a little bit of a buffer as well as some vegetation trees between the warehouse and the department.

And also this part to reduce the impact as much as possible to hold the apartment complex with its residents.

Um be using sidewalk technology or different one to be in here.

Um it kind of reduces it basically it's kind of a wall sort of device bands.

Um not sure if you've seen kind of like a privacy screen that you can draw on your phone, it's sand screen when you're looking at the wall to five.

Uh so that would be what the resident sees in black screen.

Um so we're just thinking the variance there for that distance fixing location all remove structures as well to be full requirement before we should any questions, Mr.

Farman.

We don't have a question.

So how many how many more jobs we remove that are currently existing today to make it?

Uh we have two right now that we've been looking at here committed to we've got a couple more that we're using also as well.

Um I don't know the exact time addresses and things, but we once we if we can get this remote optimized things to planning a lot of four situated and prepared for currently proposed number two.

Uh it should be four then.

But you do have any addresses on this four.

I don't have I have two of four, I believe.

Um I think one of Cameroad got a couple of things.

Uh one on Cam, a couple of two, one seventy-five.

Yes, that would be part of the application process.

Um, we just need the variance to be in things.

You're asking for a variety tonight without the state industry.

Um I was pretty sure we can, I guess, the variance and then we apply.

So we've got to not think rounds are more.

I guess we can get some cases.

I think five to three, are we not?

I guess the question is if two we take it out, it's just four phases for the market.

They address uh parkway and South Mariana Park design problem.

Okay, they're already built.

Yeah, five minutes.

Oh, we may application.

That's exactly right.

For a month, is we'd like to come back next month with that information.

Right now, what's before us, it's not a complete application.

So it's a box, maybe absolutely variance from principle can't be.

So if we tell you, yeah, you can be within five hundred feet after you can be within five hundred feet.

What you have to have are the four, it's all one thing to be, not just one part of the campers here where we could.

We need to know which ones you're taking down, where they're located.

And they can't already be done as the currently existing.

So what we're gonna ask what I'm asking is that I'm saying no.

I'm gonna give you a time to come back in a simpler new month and pass.

I would ask that we table, and you come back in a month.

Okay with these addresses.

So just to clarify one.

Recently, four dresses.

That's kind of go from a boat.

This is a public hearing is that in one of them or not.

1155 power through any more than we're likely to make one that we need to be clear.

Well, we can watch the table to allow you to talk to bring back those dresses.

So we'll need those addresses before you have some.

Okay.

Uh shall we're not looking at store here's an already to our kind of ship.

Yes, sir, Mr.

Thank you once again.

One seven-acre piece of property, which is a CRC community retail commercial, but within the uh commercial overload.

So having me.

Um I represent Jenny Cunningham sitting behind me.

Um she'll just give you a brief history of the property in Virginia for Jenny and her husband Richard uh own the property since 1962, and operated two very successful businesses, black and white auto, and this accounting, uh, obviously, has an aged over the years and retired.

They have uh well the lot has essentially been bacon since about 2015, 2012, 2015.

They they found out on a little bit after that.

And um, what remains is a three-car garage or three-bay garage and an office, and then some undeveloped land in the back is where they used to store cars.

There are no cars of the lot anymore.

And what happened in 2021, a private buyer approached Jenny to purchase the lot, and um seriously, unfortunately.

So every three-year period, they were driven the wood.

It fell apart, they had to take it back date in the uh foreclosure, and that's where we stand today.

Okay, 2025.

They contacted me to list the property.

They're a friend of mine had been for decades.

Um not just a real trip, but uh got it on the market, got it ready, will be enable buyer, and immediately get the red block is running.

And what we're proposing, um, this commercial landscaping company that will be using the land is a real estate company that's purchasing the land.

Okay.

Um, but what our biggest red block is is there's a 200 foot buffer in place specifically for commercial landscapers against a single family residence is having schedule that is on the back very corner, back right corner of the lot.

There is uh a single family, it's nothing there yet.

It was assembled, and it's going to be up in the house at some point.

This has nothing to do with the multi-family that extends the full length of the back of our lot.

Okay, that's not affected by this 200 foot buffer.

So, you know, someone who's not going to take note for an answer.

We sat down with Zoding, me, the buyer and the seller, to discuss some of these issues, and you know, a very seasoned person in our zoning department could not explain this 200 foot buffer to us.

So it's extreme.

It's extreme in our market, you're succeeding in other markets.

So I know when we proposed this, there was a lot of concern from you all.

I think I did send some notes and concerns in regard to your concerns.

But um one of the things we're asking for is to remove this buffer and get it to a more either manageable or just do away with it.

I'm fine with that too.

If we want to get rid of that buffer, but I also want you to understand what the company is going to be, because one of the concerns was how loud and how disruptive this would be to people who are living nearby, right?

And remember, they also live beside a large gas space and another place that stores cars.

This is the area that they're living in if the trees are in there.

So the landscape company would like to use the existing structures and rehabilitate them.

They need some rehabilitation.

And on the back portion of the lot, they would be storing vehicles that they use every day.

So this would be some version of a parking lot, which I know we need to discuss the materials.

Um their laborers would come in, they would get their box trucks, they would leave their personal vehicles, and then they're cut out for the day.

They are not storing debris, they're not storing large quantities of straw.

They actually go to other sites to pick these up.

So all they would be storing is their vehicles personally during the day and the work vehicles at night, which would be box trucks, pickups, and NPRs, which I had to look up.

So just make like a little bit of a flatbed with something called draw inside.

So we are not uh there's no cherry pickers, there's no big lifting machines, there's no storehouses of rock, mulch is whatever was left up from the day that will get used the next day.

Okay.

So it's not going to be a big industrial site out there.

What we're looking at right now with this flat is just about completely overrun with Code Center.

It has been for years, and it does attract a vagrant population, which I've had to help them in this process.

So it's not it's not a secure site right now.

Um here for it like they have in the past.

So one of the other concerns was um uh we'll see here.

I know we had an objection, I don't think we want to get to the objection yet.

Don't need to talk about that from a neighbor who I believe is here tonight.

Um was in regards to our driveway.

So you'll notice it's a rectangle-ish shape, but we also have a 12-foot wide driveway that goes out to Powder Spring Street.

And I believe the injection has to do with that 12 feet, which we are not asking to alter that at all.

That is the access into the lot.

We're not asking to widen it, we're not asking to shrink it.

Everything we're asking for is on the back portion of the lot, which is directly behind driver's automotive.

So I think it's new, but they will speak to speak on their own in regards to that.

Um we have no intention of disturbing their business, it's just our driveway that we've had for all these years.

Um another thing we're asking for is a variance on this court, is a commercial overlay district.

And I understand that the point of that overlay is uh really visual to make the city look good.

But if you'll notice in your packet, you should have a picture of the entrance into our property.

You cannot see the property from Cutter Spring Street, it is completely covered by driver's automotive.

So, yes, they are going to make it look much better than it looks right now.

It's a landscaping company.

It is going to look nice.

But I don't feel that this needs to have that extra step of the commercial border overlay because you don't see it from the corner.

Um, some of the questions that you all had in your notes was um are they it will have fencing all around to secure the property, and they are willing to do plantings to make it more visually acceptable to again the apartment complex and whatever would be going in on the bottom right side of the lot.

But I'm available for I'm hoping to answer all your questions.

Sounds like well, it's likely going to be wood fencing.

Um the buyer is willing to work with you all to figure out what would be best.

Um, obviously, it's not there's going to be some visibility departments in the pie.

We're not going to be able to change that fact right now.

They're looking over used banded cars and cutscene.

So it's going to be better than what it is right now.

But right now they have the wood fencing.

Um this is the buyer right here, so it's going to have a little bit better idea of the asphalt.

The side plant says gravel.

There seem to be issues with both.

So we want to find an acceptable solution for that and for you all.

All right.

Um I believe the standard size is eight feet.

And then what we wouldn't do.

I just have a question for clarification.

You have an issue with the two hundred foot buffer.

So in the bottom right corner, there's about seventy-two feet.

It's just beside Data's circle.

You see data circle on that car.

And for some reason, in our zoning bylaws for specifically commercial landscapers, they cannot operate within a 200 foot buffer of single family residents.

Again, there are no current there's currently no residents there vacantly.

But so what you're saying is we have to have basically a 200 foot bubble around the corner of the lot, which is a significant portion of the lot that would be unusable just because it's a commercial landscape company.

So part of our ask is why is it 200 feet?

Heavy industrial doesn't have a buffer that large.

So why does CRC for an accepted industry have such a large budget?

Correct.

Doesn't mean we can't take it out, right?

Right.

I understand that.

And I think that the use of that list is like important.

Right.

Um things we're also you're also looking to.

It's standards limited.

I'm full of guys, probably not just one of these also can do the policy on that buffer for this note, I'm pretty sure it's done in order to try and shield the uh residence for me if it had a uh negative consequences from from uh certain those or misses of stuff like that.

So what we see is like behind that.

Well, I didn't request that.

You all wrote that out.

I requested that we removed the two hundred foot buffer.

So when I saw that there was six on here, yeah, I added a few in here.

Not sure where that came from.

Um we're wanting to use the lot in its entirety according to something that's reasonable.

The 200 foot twist is not reasonable.

So obviously they're expensive or she's wonderful.

So you want to remove the commercial overlay, the commercial district are late.

We want to remove or severely lessen the 200 foot buffer.

And we want to be able to use the existing buildings without having to tear them down.

I guess this question maybe it's definitely coming through that other variance.

That's correct.

Um is the point that submitted and they develop a few variants based upon the point of the submitted to the ones that were brought from the printing if we didn't consider it others than being a violation of the difference between the well.

What is the reason behind full measure?

What's the reason why they'll resolve their storage?

No one's reasonable for kind of gravel instead of different purpose with this.

Well, the reason for severely declining the amount of 200 is so they can use the actual lot.

Because when you start looking at how you have far out 200 phenotes, it's it's unrealistic.

You don't use probably half the lot.

Um outdoor stores, yeah, they're gonna need that for cars or cars and box trucks essentially.

So we're looking again, we're not asking to I don't know if you consider cars in storage.

They're there at night, personnel cars are there during the day.

They're switching out all day long.

Okay.

Now we're not asking to be able to store gravel and mulch and materials like that.

We're not asking for that.

They are going to be storing the materials that they need each day.

Does that make sense?

Again, some of these I didn't write, so some of these I'm not asking for statisticated.

So I guess we're having to agree to that.

It's just more so that sometimes like asking for a variance we can go a full of this certain things.

It applies not just you, it applies to any future property under there.

Uh back to anyone can store whatever is up to appropriate for the court.

We can say outdoor storage property.

So it's kind of a present asset's question trying to understand what exactly you're trying to get uh what you're trying to do for your property and see if seeing is this appropriate variance that need to be funded in to be appropriate or is this something to is the appropriate drug consultant is trying to understand the remote research and asking reseting for the masks, okay?

I get that.

That that was on my ask.

I don't have a good reason for that.

It goes back to the way the plans because the thing didn't show a buffer, it didn't show the thing that didn't show gravel on the space.

Nice.

Yeah, so if you can't let's talk about the paving or gravel.

Um I I feel like there was some opposition to both options.

And so we need to discuss this and what would be an acceptable, what would be acceptable to do for them.

I mean, they obviously need it for parking, so it's got to be some kind of parkable service, surface, um.

But the issues with gravel is too noisy, the issue's at all as well as too much.

So what would be a reasonable remedy for that?

That you all would say yes to.

Oh, commercial core to throw the overlay to be what what are we working in?

Yeah.

So there's a number of provisions that cord or overlay.

A lot of them go to the aesthetics of structures.

So in this case it would be um you know including between existing buildings to an extent that um that could that would rise to that level.

But we're not necessarily meeting the overlay, but overlay would require things like you've seen in a lot of other instances where you have kind of brick facades and certain developments, including such whole lists and all this have to be considered when you look at the overlay.

Um and then the other aspect that specifically affects this is once again that outdoor storage fees or anything within the overlay has to be stored within the structure.

But again, it's it's aesthetic.

There's no visual from the portion.

The whole point whatever you see, correct me for that.

The whole point is to be visually nice on these larger corridors.

Well, there's nothing to see, which is why we're asking for the variance room.

You don't see a question.

So that is actually the um piece of property that we're talking about that is adjacent to this, or if you see often do this, this piece right here, and that's stretch of property uh the ones that are triggering that 200 foot requirements.

That's what the new element.

So my name is Susan Moore.

My husband's Ronald Moore that's here with me.

And we are the owners of the drivers automotive.

And I think Lindsay might have answered my question, which we were most concerned with, and I just need confirmation from the rest of you because a lot of this is uh Chinese to us.

So we just wanted to make sure that this does not affect property at all.

And according to what Lindsay just said.

It doesn't.

Is that correct?

Well, this is actually not a question answer period.

I can answer that question.

But I don't think anyone here tonight can answer such different questions of a joint problem.

So where do we sit down with the zoning people tomorrow morning?

Excuse me?

They're here at 9 o'clock anymore.

Okay.

And if that's not doable, do I have another option?

You would have to check with the zoning people.

Check with the zoning people.

Okay.

Um so one other thing that was just brought up.

Cars and trucks.

Box trucks.

What how would they get in and out of uh Miss Cunningham's property through the 12 foot driveway there?

To go on to Powder Spring Street, make a right only onto powder spring street.

Is that you met with the applicator?

No.

That might help as well.

If you sat down to see what their plans are.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

I'd like to know.

Excuse me?

But you'll see that the shape of the property, we have a 12-foot driveway.

It's it's been a part of the property for a long, long time.

That is how cars come in and out.

That is how the trash truck gets to the property.

That's never been an issue.

I I know drivers out of it, and it has in the past been vacant for a long time.

So of course they've parked there over time and blocked it.

Not a big deal.

But there are going to be box trucks utilizing the driveway that belongs to the property, which I think is reasonable because the expectation.

So kind of in that back corner.

And it is going to come right beside those home who's that might be access, but I don't know who's going to be the city that accent.

So I don't think the buyer would be opposed to it.

It gives them another entrance and exit, but it's not ours to make that call.

So as it stands right now, if I understand this correctly, the only way is to come out that uh strip of basement or driveway and make a right point to Power Spring Street.

Correct, as it's always been.

Okay.

What we're looking for here is the hunt for the city.

You guess tax revenue filing because it's been vacant and no business is running out of it for quite some time.

You get an octetenarian who gets to close the circle.

She just lost her spouse last month.

This has become quite a urgent.

And you also get a buyer who's already operating within the city who gets to have a location where they do their business.

And who's going to keep it tight?

It's going to be much more placent than what you're looking at right now.

If you look to your packing stuff with the lot looks like now.

So Mrs.

Triple Wynn.

We just got to get to the guest, however that looks.

We didn't get a solid big foot fridge.

And this particular case.

Whether it's Twitter, special land use or so at some point, this is going to be a house.

So at this point, any of the new customers, technical trailers, don't start at all.

Okay, let's get it.

And um maybe I'll go with area with all these starting life trying to have the council kind of board and commissioners.

And I'm in pretty close to this sort of open boat.

But I don't see any problem with it's a win where I I don't see any problem with so my vote, and I have no vote easily.

Thank you.

Ms.

Rams, you know, I personally desire for you to make the sale.

Especially in light of recent heartbreaking circumstances.

The city first established the commercial corridor overlay district in 2002 to articulate a positive visual element and experience in Marietta.

And to promote pedestrian mobility and safety on both Roswell Street and Spring Street.

When used correctly.

Next, the city has invested millions of dollars on Powder Spring Street in streetscaping to improve the aesthetics and to encourage a pedestrian-oriented environment.

This proposed use is a quasi-industrial use.

Lastly, the city has approved 467 housing hits, mostly in the last five years, up and down Powder Spring Street.

And during my campaign, I heard directly from these residents a strong desire to see this corridor redevelop and to fill the age with the commercial corridor overlay district.

I'm okay with the variance to uh existing structure, but my motion is to die all of the variances.

Um I'm okay with improving the variance to reduce vulnerability setbacks for an existing number three.

It's number three, but my motion is to deny me directly.

But they won't.

Right.

For purposes of discussion or something.

Just because I'll try to understand that the third one because it was definitely approval and full with if it was just full of mild, they would keep keeping distant conditions, correct?

Right.

So you're saying we're you're proposing the key just to be complaints that the property owner has.

I'm not sure there's there's as much of a difference between approval number three, it's file the rest versus full oil.

Uh I'm not sure if there's much of a difference at open class thing as an existing building.

It's already on, it's already non-conforming structure.

It's already non-conforming that denial just keeps the non-conforming status.

Tot knowledge.

I guess the periods and the P something one that we have over with.

A lot of allowance on Roswell Street, or is it on Lord Street?

So between those.

Yeah, so to answer your first question, how far the the uh overlays in South Cowder Spring Street and extends uh down past like the county buildings and actually kind of crosses over and keep continues south of to the end of a residential boundary, but it does not extend fully to county services in one time because we're restricted background.

So there's residential properties, it's hard to demonstrate without a map, but it extends much further down Powder Spring Street than uh just not uh and much further past the county buildings are down there as well.

Uh to issue your question, um have we uh have you all uh uh waves the overlay?

I'm sure too we I think elements of the overlay have been waived over the course of time.

And overlay also the language treats properties differently that are not on the majority.

So in this case, it would be Corn Spring Street and properties access to Powder Spring Street, and then in that case it would be properties on Rossell Street, and there's access to Rossman Street.

So in that case, there may be boundaries that extend further out, like if there was a South Avenue project not too long ago where that was applicable.

Um it was within the boundaries, could not be seen, it could not be accessed from Roswell Street.

So there's each case is different.

My question is on the surface.

How much uh surface can be seen or signals?

That uh asphalt would be too much is not well parked, so in this case, if they were to asphalt the surface that they were shown there, it would it would bypass the permissible allowances.

Um if there was something that was scaled back that would have to be done this afternoon to analyze what that what that area could be in order to meet that.

But that just exchanging the gravel for asphalt, it would not pass.

Oh no one like the windows substitute most uh to people this can't be the applicant cut back with bulletin meets mostly the commercial corridor because they're not really outright, they have to make the means of second.

So the quest the quest that they have to something that you interested in the obviously we won't go before QR periods, so we're gonna have to come up with something that would be acceptable to some kind of compliance with the work support to throwing overlay and the building uh to be put there.

If this doesn't pass right this contract, is it right?

So we will start with the new applicant.

Um we have to do it through a first round of refusal with someone who I said directory through the night for three years.

We're trying to avoid that.

My my question is what I'm really not understanding.

This commercial overlay is such a visual experience and part of the city for a property you literally do.

It feels new to me, it feels unimportant, it's going to be made better in a big way, but to follow all of those guidelines for a property that's sitting behind another property that you can not see feels like an overreach for the city, making it really difficult to place this property with another buyer.

Um I think you might feel I'm being dramatic, but you haven't lived here the last 10 years in this process.

And if you deny anything, we're done.

Um but it's kind of an all or nothing um we're willing to talk through these things I'm not sure when you say let's like we like who is we that we would need to talk to to figure out these things um I mean we thought we were doing that with setting it was kind of a dead end to be honest it was like show up here and start the conversation here so you are doing that.

Um so I mean it's you're bad we would left this to all pass it's a great opportunity for the city it's gonna fastly improve what's sitting there with a thriving business um but our red block is your decision I mean that's what I did should be where you don't have to go to this data I'll say you may not go see it today but there's gonna be resonances up buying this property every time that we say to weigh the requirement we're further segmenting what that corridor's gonna look like forever it's more difficult and more difficult to unify and redevelop the core.

Can I ask what would be an acceptable business to put here that would satisfy this is not a question of edge I could I got a question that is probably for Daniel if we did something we're like complaining and zoning if you with a special land use you know they that special interest permit and where the owner had that in the business license same with this property and then once that business license lapsed or was not renewed it would go away is that a consideration that we could do on this property I'm gonna have to ultimately defer to Mr Brady will say when it comes to special land use per use permits they tend to go with the property and continuously deadlines on that but I'll defer to also property if you had special I don't know frame of motion to incorporate all of these things or some things you said it's standard all of nothing from their stand if you don't approve all of them not trying to wait.

We'd like to see it a long way to go through that said that they their contract I think expires tonight so don't bother to another open file to work through work through some issues.

If we deny it nine minutes it's done for a year if that's going to impact a lot of things.

Well you would have to go back and sell and close it on the contract what we want to say you vote with a lot of four thought one question before we do if you can't let this point to call the question for the motion vote playable motion the table that you can try next 245 or 6 now far

Next item.

2454.

Commissioner Town is now open.

Item number can set 0175.

Yeah.

Good evening, counsel, Mr.

Mayor.

My name is Warren Clemens.

My wife, Kate Cleeman.

We live in 271th Street.

We purchased the property at 245 Forest Avenue.

And um we are asking for a lift of the stop work where there was an issue by the city after the approved permit was approved in our construction demo beginning.

We have lived in the Far Sales neighborhood for over 12 years now.

We are very involved in the neighborhood.

We are on social committees, different boards in the neighborhood.

And we've lived in the house and we've renovated there for 10 years.

So now we've purchased the property at 245.

Um we hired architect Gordon Worth to help us work on plans there.

We went before HBC twice.

Um the first time we got feedback from HPC.

We took that, we worked with 40 to come up with plans that were approved at a second meeting.

And then from there we started constructions after um permits were approved by the city.

And only for you could talk to the two dimensions from the mayor council, my 24 architect address.

Uh 453 mid-label.

Uh um, so yes, I'm Gordon Morrison, I'm owner of the architecture design phase three.

We got a more pretty recent uh certification compliance that I mean to help reimagine this house at 245 uh Force Avenue.

We came up with a plan uh as to the needs and submitted to the HPC in uh in September.

Um we have to draw more revised design, which we submitted to the HP C in October, or approved, and a month later we submitted for a permanent in November, uh and we're approved with comments, starting construction December in summer or in January.

So when we initially submitted HBC, the application cut it out limited to listen, which was the case when we submitted at that point.

Uh, and then do sort of revised the design, and you need some uh structural design as well, coordinating with the contractor.

Uh we can pair that we'd already we always plan for some structural foundation intermediation, uh, but uh became that we won't have to do more than what we had planned for, so we have to do the drawings uh to reflect the foundations and increase the demolition submitted the permit uh like receiving comments uh to permit some construction.

Uh now the house is demolished.

Uh and so uh except for the existing distance preparations are there.

We just talked to the contract and gonna reuse the breakfast there uh to face the new foundations that have been built or the exterior is an operating uh we'll get a use.

So I think that was what we talked about.

Any questions, Mr.

Boris?

Um, to uh um HP C back of the roof back in the cover.

Yes, sir, correct.

There's no change to the design.

No house will not change.

See, the footprint at the front of the house was approved if we end in the footprint is expanded to the right a little bit and then to the front for a porch of the uh the expensive footprint to the right is a deck on the back of the house or to stick back in a stick by that sort of spring side that on top.

So I guess the cloud around this home project with this one is getting me also mostly favorable to ten years.

But this seems like that the process is failed in leaves to work in this worked on the properties that want to work on obviously with the historical historical.

Yeah, this is this is my first time.

I read I read the guidelines.

Yeah, I think we've got some time to guidelines to tackle uh full demolition for citizenship and remodel and still exit when we went in initially it was for demolition and remodeling.

So we we were approved at that point.

So if anything, if I'm I would take responsibility, it would be an oversight on on my part to uh not be familiar enough with the guidelines to come back.

Just to give some context and clarity to your question.

In going through the HPC, we discussed only the front of the bottom.

Uh the scope of the demolition was was was never reduced.

And uh, and again, I don't know that that's the responsibility of time with all seconds.

But yeah, that that was the process.

We weren't in thinking about uh to the save anyone the the permanent drawings showed the internet's our team to work for this I guess the HPC is implied like we see.

This is public hearing is the more just make sure you name is Laura Carrow.

I live at United Five Advanced Circle in Forest Hills.

I've been there for 23 years.

Um you took the words right out of my mouth, Mr.

Kim, something you just sent them off ago that I'm gonna touch on, but I'm happy to hear that uh we're aligned.

Um I love my neighborhood, I love my neighbors, the schools are awesome, they're awesome neighbors, they've been there for a long time.

They're trying to do the right thing.

I um years ago was uh Forest Hills neighborhood association president, and I was involved at the time that we excuse me, that we uh petitioned to become a historic district.

We worked with Johnny Walker on that, and um, you know, we had a a large amount of our population, obviously, that was in favor of that, based on the fact that we have that historic designation.

So we all agreed that that was a good thing for our neighborhood, right?

We wanted the protections that that designation uh brought to us.

So I think you know, your point earlier about um a process flaw here seems to me to be what happened.

I I haven't really been intimately familiar with how we got here.

Some of what I just heard um is new information to me, but you know, ultimately the cleavants have have been uh very valuable neighbors to our neighborhood.

They're very involved, as they said.

They it's great, you know, when we see long time neighbors who want to stay in the neighborhood.

Right?

They want to take the time, make the investment to do what's necessary both um administratively and financially to renovate that home.

And we want them to stay.

It's not easy, it's not cheap, right?

We know that.

But you know, here we are.

The home is essentially demolished now, and that can't be undone, so we have to move forward.

Um, I will say this is not the first time this has happened in our neighborhood.

It's happened on Banned Circle.

Right?

We've been here before.

So as we've seen this happen more than once, um, I'm personally not too concerned about how we got here.

I'm thinking more along the lines of how do we avoid finding ourselves here.

So in my opinion, I would I would just like to bring forth a couple of recommendations for the city to consider as we move forward so that we don't find ourselves in this situation again.

The first one would be any time there are any modifications to approved plans for a property that's in a historic district.

I feel like the building permit should automatically be suspended and the process should start over.

You should have to go back before HBC, and you should have to obtain a new COA.

Now, I don't know that that's happening in all cases.

I don't know if that's the process today, but in my uh opinion, that should happen as just best practice before any additional work can commence if there's been any sort of a change.

The second thing that I think is even more important is that in again, in my opinion, the HPC COA regulation should be modified so that any time a homeowner wants to add significant weight to the foundation of a home in a historic district, whether that's adding another story or even in closing or building out the attic space, it should be required that the homeowner secure a structural engineering report stating that the foundation is adequate to support the plans.

Most of the homes and forest hills are nearly a hundred years old.

Many of them are one-story bungalows that were never built with the intention of supporting two stories.

Our structural engineers review should be a requirement in order to obtain both the COA and the building permit.

This way, if the engineer determines that the foundation needs additional reinforcement before the first piece of siding is removed, the homeowner can determine if they have the resources to do so.

And then that solution can be incorporated into the plan.

And then we're all protected.

And since there is a requirement that a COA has to be obtained from the HBC before a building permit can be issued for a home in a historic district, it seems like there's already some sort of process in place to flag these applications when they come.

Based on that, it should be fairly straightforward for the city to implement these mitigation controls.

And then one other kind of tactical thing I just wanted to bring to your attention.

I've heard from two different neighbors this week that the notification of the meeting about this, not tonight's meeting, but I guess there was a prior meeting, came in the mail.

One person told me the day of, another person told me the day after the meeting occurred.

So I would suggest that you know it's 2026.

Maybe we move away from paper.

Um, you know, it's not like a certificate spill.

Maybe we should look at we have a great app.

The MyBariata app is awesome.

Maybe we should send out push notifications in addition to paper if we have some legal requirement to notify by a snail now.

But I would uh ask that we think about other ways to communicate with folks that they're made aware of these meetings, and then they can have their voices heard.

Thank you.

Almost every three years.

Um situation is obviously not all too long for disponible as done.

So I'm gonna clarify a couple easy things to me.

And I'll read this first one and I'll talk about the other one.

I always loved it if at this point now that we've done.

It's demolished, that we allow the flameers to build as planned.

And to set the example in architecture design materials and emulate what the guidelines for the Marietta Historic District is attempting to.

That's all I want to say about that.

One thing.

You talk to a geotech engineer.

Does it ground?

It's in the ground as we need the GO3.

Now, I'm talking off the cuff here because I've talked to so many people who are engineers.

So what I say is not a fashion.

But it is something to think about as we update or do as some people suggest it.

But he has something in place in case we see and so forth.

And making the other side even better.

I think the only other thing I'm thinking about is there the other confusion was the um certificate of appropriateness.

The term is used throughout the documents.

But in this instance, it seemed to me what was missed was a certificate of appropriateness for double lesson.

Since the plans standard limited demolition and partial new construction.

That's where I thought things were wrong.

And I do agree with Courtney that his plans were kind of indicating very clearly what might happen if the system works structure as well as what he was applying by the foundation needs.

And he was coordinating well with all parties.

Thank you.

Hello, Council Universe.

My name is Derek Wayham.

I live at 232 Forest Avenue.

Umperty is diagonal across the line.

Umstead is done, obviously.

Um I'm not going to talk about any shortcomings.

Um maybe even process um or change structural things.

Um I just have that as a thing as a great people.

They bring assets to the neighborhood.

They entered their work and stuff into their current house, and they'll do the same.

It's careful.

And uh, it seems like there is overwhelming we favor, but I wanted to look like that, you know, opinion and look at top to somebody, you know, it's we want this for the neighborhood.

So thank you.

If anyone else wants to make them on now, there's nothing we're save a little time.

Anyone else?

I know what are you making this carbon that I have in the contact collection of the house that I got the luggage.

I just want to say I used to be your city.

I think that you're just getting a little jump in communicate within the beginning of farming at the East Tree War.

And everything we've got a historicity.

Uh before getting the permit, we're going to give it to make sure the permit was improved.

So I think that is kind of like a miscommunication.

Because they find a the drawing is data that the foundation wasn't like in the money.

The growth was not in the money is only void.

What do we have the money?

So the only thing that would have been left in the house wasn't meant to water in order to put it in the house.

I'm doing a finger through it.

So at that time, somebody should have motive that the 90% of the house was going to have a gun.

I mean, if that you think about the checkpoint.

I don't know if that could be fixing somehow because, you know, whatever.

Actually, it's I am a money.

You know, you want to fade any problem, but we need to think I'm getting why with all these things here.

We should have like a model where we need a site.

I wasn't going to speak tonight, but I did just want to say Forest Hills is tired of having houses torn down.

We can't wait for them to be our neighbors.

We regret what happened, but the city needs to do something about having historic homes torn down.

It's very important to me, and it's very important to my neighbors.

And it's very important to me.

Something's a hundred years old.

And they're being torn down and around the rate.

And all we can do today is to say please make changes so that we don't lose the very fiber in the historic nature of area.

Because it's getting chipped away every single time.

So that we can put a second story on it when it didn't need to have a second story.

Or the person can't afford to supplement the foundation.

So please add that into account.

Go to HBC.

Talk to your building inspectors.

They should have known that this was being torn down before we start out.

Um please do something to save our neighborhood.

We found it overwhelmingly to preserve our neighborhood.

And the city is allowing it to be torn down.

If we don't improve this one.

Yeah, so if you if you don't approve this, uh Mr.

Rice's department would keep the software if you would revoke the permanence that would be important.

Yeah, like we should.

We need to like say what we did ten years ago for sea changes.

We taught about engineer this is a bad solution for what happened, what's this cover?

Like we trained like a garage in there now.

We're just dating with us fashion that we should prepare to shift unlike my appropriate way well.

Well, I want to sit and vote through it.

So come on around the corner.

Oh, what's the point was I know you think you're going to repurpose the bricks, right?

Yes, sir.

So my motion would be to approve that's for the certificate of appropriate for the double S of 245 forest value because that's the proper move.

I'd like to reopen up the floor.